May 7, 2025 • 45 mins
There is a battle being fought in Washington D.C. right now between people who love America and people who hate America. Jesse Kelly reveals that it's not just Democrats who despise the country. In fact, a Republican Senator just betrayed the country in one of the most despicable ways. Speaking of the Senate, Jesse speaks with Marsha Blackburn about the spending bill and what may come of it. Plus, a conversation about the Supreme Court with Wade Stotts and insight into an important new executive order from Jeffrey A. Tucker.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Let's talk about the internal war we have going on
in the country. One of our senators betrayed a surprise, surprise,
Marsha Blackburn is here. So much more coming up on
im right now. Let's have a kind of back to
(00:24):
the basics chat, shall we, before we get to what
Pete hag Seth is doing, why it's so important? And
Trump yesterday he signed an executive order and the executive
order was not wasn't majorly important as far as tangibly
doing anything. Really, it was an executive order to say, hey,
the day we won World War one, it's a big
(00:46):
deal and we should celebrate that.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
That should be a holiday.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
The day we won World War two, that's kind of
a big deal, and it should be a holiday, national holiday.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I love that he put in there.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
We don't need any days off where we have too
many holidays, but should be a day we celebrate.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
So why even bring this.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Up at all because it wasn't that major, Well, it
was a left's reaction to it. And what we're about
to talk about may seem very basic, and if you're
where you need to be, it will.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Be very basic.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
If you're not where you need to be, you won't
buy it, They'll probably make you uncomfortable, but accepting what
the motivation of Democrats today is is everything? Know thy
enemy if you will, knowing what they truly want is everything?
(01:36):
And look in life period, would you go out for
a date if you're saying and you're out there dating,
it's important.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It's important to understand what do you want? What are
your motivations?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Just looking for a good time at a red lobster
on a Friday night, looking to settle down and get
somebody a wedding ring, a child? What's their motivation? Does
it match yours? Understanding? Motivations are important. Democrats hate the
United States of America and they want to destroy it.
I can't put it any more frankly than that. And
(02:08):
until you get to that place of understanding, you'll always
be lost. You'll always be shocked, You'll always you'll wake
up what every day and you'll look at the news?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
What are they?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I can't believe that? Do you ever find yourself saying that?
You say that a lot. I can't believe they. Why
can't you believe it? What would you do if you
hated the country? You remember?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Do you remember a few.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Years ago when this mar Gray went on MSNBC and
she said this about the flag.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Long Island this weekend visiting a really dear friend, and
I was really disturbed. I saw, you know, dozens and
dozens of pickup trucks with you know, explicatives against Joe
Biden on the back of them, Trump flags, and some
cases just dozens of American flags, which you know, is
(03:00):
also just disturbing because essentially the message was clear, it
was this is my country.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I'm glad she I'm glad we dug that up because
I wanted to talk to you about what we're discussing here.
How I came to this realization because I was once
one of those very naive people who believe that those
the people on the left are just kind of misguided.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
We all want the same things, that lame thing.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I used to think like that too, Well, we all
kind of want the same things. They're just kind of
naive or they don't understand. They don't understand that taking
away guns will increase violent crime. They don't understand that
opening up the border will actually destroy the country. I
made all these excuses, but it was that conversation that
Mark Ray just had.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I had it with so many and the conversation.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Usually when something like this, they were starting to sprinkle
politics into professional sports, TV commercials, things like that, companies
were starting to take always left wing political stances. I
started pitching a fit about it because this is back
when I was super into sports. Can I just watched
the NFL game without all this politics, and every Democrat
(04:11):
I knew, every one of them, said politics have always
been in the NFL. What's your problem? And I would,
of course ask why, how do you figure that? They
would say, well, they always have the military there, they
always play the national anthem there. I'll think about that
(04:31):
for a moment. The United States military is partisan. A
partisan to me shouldn't be. It's a big organization full
of people who are willing to lay down their lives
for defense of America.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Not political.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Well, in the eyes of somebody who hates America, the
organization dedicated to protecting America is very very political.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
You see.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
That's how this works. That brings me to what that did.
He just announced twenty percent cut across the board of
four stars, generals and admirals. Now you should understand, we
have more four stars today than we had during World
War Two. We have this because the United States military
is a corrupt, criminal organization, a good old boy network
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where evil, corrupt scumbags promote each other all the time,
reward each other with generous gifts. They bounce back and
forth from being three stars and four stars into working
at the defense industry for a million dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It's a really terrible system. Here was Pete talking about it.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
We are leaving wokeness and weakness behind. No more pronouns,
no more climate change obsession, no more emergency vaccine mandates,
no more dudes in dresses.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
We're done with that.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
We're focused on lethality, meritocracy, accountability, standards, and readiness.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
That's magnificent.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
But you can't do that without cleaning out the communist
rod at the top. And so they're starting to chop
away at the top. But that brings me back to
a conversation we've had many times, and we'll have it
again right now. Why did the system try so hard
to stop Pete Hegseth, And why are they still trying
so hard to stop Pete Hegseth. In fact, let's not
(06:38):
even do the system part. Let's talk about our role
in this, Your role, in my role, I'm talking about
our role as people on the right because the left
Democrats elected Democrats, they don't actually have the power to
stop really much at all right now, Yet some things
are getting stopped. Pete Hegseth almost had his nomination with
(07:00):
we had to bully Joni Earnst into backing off. But
there was one senator from the very red state now
of North Dakota, Tom North Dakota of North Carolina. Tom
Tillis is his name, and he was working very hard
behind the scenes to torpedo Pete hegset Now keep in
mind North Carolina could have the reddest Republican humanity possible.
(07:23):
Instead they have Tom Tillis. And it's funny Tom Tillis
is in the news because Tom Tillis is also the
one out there blocking Ed Martin. Yes, that's right, you see,
he's already announced he wouldn't support him. He is.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I don't believe he's being in advanced to the markup.
And I'm met with mister Martin. He seems like a
good man. Most of my concerns related to January sixth,
and he built a compelling case on some of the
fifteen twelve prosecutions that were probably heat of the moment decisions.
But where we probably have a difference is I think
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anybody that reached the perimeter should have been in prison
for some period of time. Whether it's thirty days or
three years is debatable. But I have no tolerance for
anybody who entered the building on January the sixth, and
that's probably where most of the friction was. If mister
Martin were being put for it as a US attorney
for any district except the district where January sixth happened
the protest happened, I probably support them, but not in
(08:27):
this district. At this point, I've indicated to the White
House I wouldn't support his nomination.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
At Trump called you and.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
I talk all the time.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I'll make you angry.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Do keep in mind that Ed Martin taking over the
DC district is pretty much the most important thing Trump
wants to do. That district is full of communist snakes
who've attacked the American people with a vigor over the
last four years, throwing as many of them as they
could in prison. Ed Martin's going to go in there
and clean it out. And that's why people like Tom Tillis,
(09:01):
Red State Republicans step up and stop it. Whenever we're
right on the cusp of a really really important victory,
we'll flirt with important victories, we'll do a little of
this little that. But when we're on the cusp with
something tangible, something lasting, it's Red state Republicans that step
in and stop it. It's always John Cornyn, It's always
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James Langford, Tom Tillis, Cassidy Thune, Rounds Unit Curtis, you
name it, Red state after red state after red state.
So my point in this little rant is it comes
back to you and me changing our voting behavior in
primaries and changing the voter behavior of the people we know,
(09:42):
because we can't get long lasting, tangible wins with these
losers in there. And speaking of Langford, let's talk really
briefly here before we wrap this up about immigration, because again,
the communists hate the country, as we just talked about,
they're bringing in as many foreigners.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
As humanly possible.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
If you look at the television set and you look
at people like Ihan Omar saying like this, and you're mortified,
you should understand that we have, in a roundabout way,
people like this sitting in Congress because of Red State Republicans.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Congressman Omar and Miles Morale with the Daily Caller News Foundation.
Speaker 7 (10:17):
Do you think more of your Democratic colleague should be traveling.
Speaker 8 (10:20):
To El Salvador to advocate on behalf of a bitting
on Garcia?
Speaker 9 (10:23):
I think you should.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, I'm sorry, what Congressman? Who should you?
Speaker 7 (10:28):
Why?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Me?
Speaker 10 (10:30):
I'm not thinking at anyting more questions right now, but
here you go.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah. Thanks.
Speaker 11 (10:34):
I would say our country should be more fearful of
white man across our country because they are actually causing
most of the deaths within this country.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Angry that she's in Congress.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
She's in Congress because for decades the United States of
America has allowed the mass importation of barbarians from foreign lands,
and now communist activists can show up from those foreign
lands and get elected to Congress and then use their
position in Congress to subvert and destroy the United States
of America. And if you're upset about that mess importation,
you should understand it doesn't happen without red state Republicans.
(11:19):
James Langford just last year from the reddest state in
the Union, Oklahoma, tried to get amnesty passed with the Democrats.
That's why you have ihann omar in her like in Congress.
All that may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right.
We will talk to Marshall Blackburn about Ed Martin, about
many things in just a moment. Before we talk to her,
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Speaker 2 (12:27):
We'll be back.
Speaker 10 (12:37):
You may have heard one big, beautiful bill floating around Congress.
This bill is big and beautiful for main Street America
and investors alike. The President's Signature tax legislation will prevent
an enormous tax hike on Main Street.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Well, I like Scott Bessenting.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
He seems like a very sharp guy, so I'm not
dogging on them for rolling out the talking points. But
you'll have to excuse me if I don't think this
Congress is capable of a big beautiful bill, nor is
any Congress, because everyone stuffs a bunch of corrupt crap
in there. Joining me now is Senator Marshall Blackburn from
the great State of Tennessee. Senator, do I even want
to ask what's in this big beautiful bill.
Speaker 12 (13:20):
Well, the main thing is this helps us past President
Trump's agenda because it will make the Trump tax cuts
from twenty seventeen permanent, and then also expand R and D, bonus,
deppreciation and interest. You know, those expired at the end
of last year, and so we have to put them back.
(13:44):
That means we have to have a pay for and
that's where all of those good doge cuts come in,
and we'll be able to pay for those. There's some
other things that are our savings for the American people
that we're looking at, like one of my bills, which
is to remove the income tax from Social Security for seniors,
(14:09):
and we'll do our best to get that in there.
And also a childcare tax credit for employers that offer
childcare for their employees. And there is a provision that
exists already for large corporations, but we're adding small businesses
to that. So, you know, Jesse, We've got this bill
(14:33):
that we're working on, and then we have the opportunity
before the twenty six elections to do two more reconciliation bills,
and we will be able to do another one this
fall and one next year this time, so we can
have three big, beautiful bills. And I'm looking forward to
(14:56):
saving the taxpayers as much as we can, getting to
a balanced budget, which is President Trump's goal, and then
also beginning to cut into the baseline so that we
cut into the debt.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
All right, let's talk about what we can expect going forward.
Permanent tax cuts as music to my ears. But we've
got two reconciliation.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Bills still to come.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Are there going to be good things in that or
a bunch of bad stuff that's horrible?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Oh?
Speaker 12 (15:25):
No, I think what you will do is see some
other savings. We've got a healthcare proposals that are floating
around part of my work on reigning in the pharmacy
benefit managers. They're the ones that drive up the cost
of pharmaceuticals for our nation's seniors and raining them in
(15:50):
moving them from a rebate over to a service fee
of flat fee would save a lot of money. Looking
at putting a shot clock on insurance companies to make
decisions and be there to pay bills. This is something
whether it is Medicaid or Medicare, they slow walk paying
(16:11):
the hospitals and they may take two hundred days to
pay a bill. And what we're doing is saying no,
these are actions that you preapproved and then you need
to pay the bill when you get the bill. So
there are different things we can do that will help
(16:34):
help the government run more efficiently, that will reduce cost
and will yield as savings for the taxpayer. That is
our goal, and that is all part of President Trump's agenda.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Senator, before I let you go, I wanted to ask
about Ed Martin. I know Tom Tillis came out. He
sure sounds like he's a no, and a fairly firm no.
Does that sink Ed Martin? Is he going to get through?
Speaker 12 (17:01):
I don't know the answer to that, I've not talked
with my colleagues at Judiciary. I did hear someone mentioned
Senator Tillis's comments, but you know, Jesse, I don't know.
I know that he that Ed Martin has been there
as the acting in d C and has done a
(17:24):
solid job getting criminals into court and carrying out these
prosecutions and stopping some of this crime wave that has
been so rampant here in DC.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Senator, thank you, I appreciate you very much. All right,
speaking of a crime wave, we have judges committing crimes.
Talked to Wade about that next wave stops.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
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Speaker 8 (18:50):
Government wanted Owen McIntyre to spend the time before trial
behind bars, but the judge and Boston sided with the
defense and this cage, which cited multiple medical issues facing
the nineteen year old, including autism, spectrum disorder, ginger dysphoria,
and eighty HD. McIntyre's attorney, are you the team should
(19:13):
be released, citing serious and ongoing medical needs and treatments
that could not or would not be provided while in
federal detention. The defense filing says McIntyre is being treated
for depression and since March has been receiving ginger affirming care,
that care would likely be interrupted or terminated in federal custody.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
So this guy's not behind bars because he's going through
tranny surgery. Joining me now, Wade Stott, host of The
Wade Show with Wade. Okay, Wade, could you please clarify
what exactly is the problem here, what's going on?
Speaker 9 (19:53):
Yeah, so a trans terrorist is basically the left George Washington.
So I don't expect them to really throw the book
at their ideal American. But there's no way that they
were going to get special treatment whoever, whatever he or
she is. So it's the Anarco half of Narco tyranny.
So the left favorite groups get a pass to cause destruction,
make life miserable for normal people. So and they released
(20:14):
the person for also medicated for their HD eighty eight
HD and depression. So I don't know if sitting still
in class is quite the same thing as thinking you're
a man or a woman when you're not. No concern atree,
alleged terrorist walking free.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yes, no, no concern at all.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Wait, earlier today the Supreme Court upheld the trainee ban,
which I guess is something. But I despise the Supreme Court.
I've been screaming about ignoring the Supreme Court. But this
is something you've been hot on for a while. When
it comes to well, he has to obey the lower courts.
He can't do poor people. He's a president, he has
to ignore them.
Speaker 9 (20:58):
Yeah, I've noticed a lot of this during the Trump
trials that we were sort of sitting around in our
major political moments, waiting around for people who are accountable
to no one to say something that we knew was
probably going to be ridiculous. And so the legal battles
weren't going to stop when they couldn't put Trump in jail.
They definitely weren't going to stop after he became president.
This is a good ruling from the Supreme Court, but
(21:19):
really what we're seeing now is a baseline controversy over
who's going to be sovereign. Judges are seen right now
as the same kind of priest class that doctors were
back in twenty twenty. So people appeal to these rulings
the same way they might appeal to Fauci and others
and whoever else. So the judicial system really is just
one area where our system has become a parody of itself,
(21:42):
so because the original American system assumed the original American character.
But what we're seeing is an actual crisis of sovereignty,
the question of who is going to rule. So once
in a while, you can create a system like the Constitution,
like the American system, and once in a while there's
going to be something that pops up that where the
rules aren't clear, where there isn't a section in the
institution that tells us what to do when twenty million
(22:02):
foreigners invade over the course of just a few years.
So when something like that happens, whoever makes the decision
is the one who's actually in charge. So no clear
legal president president means that there's somebody's got to make
a call. The problem is that the courts really can
slow Trump down. So now that someone has to make
the call, the left is sort of in the conservative position,
(22:25):
trying to uphold or at least preserve their procedural roadblocks
that they can use to up against Trump. But Trump's
advantage is that he's on the offensive. He's in pursuit
of his goals. Again, I agree with the recent one
from the Supreme Court, but that's again the question of
sovereignty is still there.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
What how do we end up as a country with
a bunch of judges that, I mean, frankly hate the
United States of America. We're not talking about somebody who
leans left or something like that. When you look at
these lower court judges, the DC judges, these are communist
revolutionaries in black robes.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
How in the world do we get here.
Speaker 9 (23:03):
Yeah, we have a system that we like to think
of as being about the rule of law, So that's
really easy to pervert into the rule of judges. So
the rule of law assumes a law above the people,
and then that these judges are here just to rule
on things and are supposed to take in the precedent
of what's happened before. But as soon as you take
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people again who, like you said, I think, hate America,
they're not trying to preserve the original intent of any
of these laws. What basically happens is that they'll make
a call and then have some clerk find some precedent
to tack on at the end as a sort of footnote.
The real difference, yeah, is the character behind the person.
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If the person is there, there could be disagreements between
two people who love the same things what the right
thing to do is in a particular situation. But the
kind of disagreements between someone who loves the country and
loves our founding, loves the print and the people who
made us who we are, it's different if the person
hates those people, so that those are different characters of arguments.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, kind of a kind of blows up a whole argument.
To be honest with you, Wade, Thank you brother, come
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Speaker 7 (25:21):
It first relates to gain of function research. Gain of
function research is a type of biomedical research where pathogens
are adulterated. Viruses are adulterated to make them more potent
or to change the way that they function. Exact many
people believe that gain of function research was one of
the key causes of the COVID pandemic that struck us
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in the last decade. What this executive order does, first
of all, it provides powerful new tools to enforce the
ban on federal funding for gain of function research abroad.
It also strengthens other oversight mechanisms related to that issue
and creates an overarching strategy to ensure that biomedical research
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in general is being conducted safely and in a way
that ultimately protects human health more.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
It's a big deal.
Speaker 13 (26:13):
It could have been that we wouldn't have had the problem.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
We had a lot of people say that, sir.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
We had this done earlier.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Okay, we got an executive order, But what does all
this stuff mean. I'd still find it confusing to this
day why some of this stuff even exists. Joining me
now to break down some of this stuff for us,
Jeffrey A. Tucker, President of the Brownstone Institute, Jeffrey, can
we go.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Back to the basics here and can you explain to me.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Like I'm really really dumb, why there is any entity
on the planet that is trying to make viruses more potent?
Speaker 13 (26:51):
But as we know, the fundamental reason does actually trace
to bioweapons research. So the idea is to make a
path of you and make the cure and then have
a weapon that you can use against civilian populations of
RFK gave a miniature talk at that event. It was
(27:13):
like two minutes description of the history of US bioweapons
research in every country in the world since World War Two.
It's wicked, it's horrible. It's sort of post nuclear bomb stuff. Now,
for sure, none of this discussion about SARS, Kobe two
or COVID has publicly been talked about in the framework
(27:36):
of bioweapons research, but it's pretty well known that that's
really ultimately what this research is about. You could render
it in a number of different ways, but you could
put it in the civilian contexts all, we're just looking
for better ways to get ahead of zo notic outbreaks
(28:00):
up the diseases that pass from animals humans and we
need antidotes to fix that, and okay, fine, But more fundamentally,
it is all wrapped up with the bioweapons research issue,
and that is all classified material, and so that's why
(28:22):
we don't talk about it. That's why we don't have
a lot of records. That's why even this executive order
seems to carve out certain exemptions which frustrate people, and
they look at it like, well, why are we, why
we why we Why don't we just ban it? Why
don't we just stop this nonsense? But but that gets
us into another area entirely, so they won't go there. Nonetheless,
(28:45):
I'm thrilled by this, by this, by this executive order
as it exists. It's a tremendous leap forward. And I
found myself just a little bit, you know, almost emotion
just watching this press conference with Jay and Martin mcuerie
and RFK up there with Trump signing this executive order,
(29:09):
because it does it is true that the COVID experience
traces to this gain of function research that's taking place
on contract with the Wuhan Lab, and those people in
that room, the three of them, Trump presided over the
whole thing, at least in its inception, and we'll get
(29:33):
to that in a second. But the other three were
the top three of the top resistors of the COVID
controls of lockdowns and the response to the pandemic conditions
that took place in March. And there they are now
in charge passing executive orders to try to contain the
kind of research that led to the whole chaos. I
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do want to say one quick thing about that Clippy
played that I thought was so very interesting. We all
know this happened under Trump. It began, you know, in
March twenty twenty, when, at least according to the official record,
Berg Stauci and others, we don't know who the others
were leaned into Trump and they said, basically, listen, this
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is going to happen one way or the other, so
you better shape up and go along with it, right,
And he acquiesced now at that within a few weeks
of that happening, he realized he had lost control of
his presidency, unfortunately, and that was a tragedy for him.
(30:43):
And he was basically not the president between March and
when and the election, and he kind of knew it.
He was sort of reduced to tweeting his way all
the way to the election. But there was a little
hint of of pensive sad what he said. It's like,
we wouldn't have if this had been in place before,
(31:04):
none of this would have happened. And you could just
see just a moment where he hesitates in a moment
of personal reflection. We've had far too little of that,
you know, We've wanted for four years for him to
just kind of make a clean statement that this is
a disaster, that he allowed a disaster to happen under
his watch, that he didn't resist the pandemic planets far enough,
(31:28):
but he's never said that. We have to believe that
he does regret it, but we don't really have the
evidence of that. So that was just a really interesting
moment when he looked back and said, gosh, I wish
that this had been in place before. But at the
same time, you know, it's so remarkable when he got
elected in twenty sixteen, if you come to him and said,
(31:51):
mister president, you need to be careful because there's some
dangerous research being taken place in Wuhan where they're going
to produce a virus. Then they're going to come to
you and say we have cure and tell you to
destroy the US economy and participate in the destructure of
the global economy. You better shut this down now. I mean,
would he have believed it. I wouldn't think so. I mean,
(32:11):
that's kind of the last thing you would expect to
have happened as president for some wild and crazy caper
like that to take place.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Jeffrey, I want to go back to something you said
a couple of minutes ago about, you know, I wish
they would just spend it all, but they left some
carve outs in there, and I mean, I guess we
all kind of know why.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Why.
Speaker 13 (32:36):
Well, it has something to do with national security and
the belief that governments around the world are still engaged
in this research, and the belief that it would come
out to unilateral disarmament if the US stopped it all together.
I think that that's very likely what this is about,
that the US would somehow handicap itself and the bioweapons
(33:00):
arms race if it just stopped, stopped doing it completely,
and you know, national security would be saying, Hey, this
is crazy. The Rand's doing it, is doing it, She's
doing it, China's doing it. Why why should we do
it too? Something like that, Or if we're going to stop,
let's not make a public announcement to that effect, because
that would have been broadcast to all governments in the
(33:21):
world that you're free to create all the pathogens you want,
and the US would be completely disarmed. I there's probably
some I can imagine that that national security officials were
involved in this. So Trump finds himself in this position
of threading the needle between you know, these brilliant people
(33:42):
in the room with him just now, and then other
people who are not in that room who are whispering
in his ear otherwise. So even give a gift all
that the the executive order is, I think as well,
it's actually vastly better than I would have expected. I
never would have expected in an executive order like this
at all. So for this to come out shows we're
(34:05):
on a really good track. And to tell you the truth,
I think this is probably just the beginning of unraveling
the entanglements between the executive branch and the pharmaceutical industry
and the bioweapons industry. I think we're going to see
(34:26):
more efforts along this line. This is a big step,
but there's probably going to be more things coming in
in the coming weeks and months.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Jeffrey, why China? And let me let me finish the
question this way, of all the things that are very
odd and nefarious and evil with this whole thing, the
fact that we are working with our mortal enemy China
in China to create weaponized viruses that in and of itself,
(34:57):
everything else aside is so bunkers to me.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
How did we get there?
Speaker 13 (35:04):
Well, it probably began when when the US invited China
into the World Trade Organization. There was a widespread belief
for decades that we were all friends, we're all cooperating
and everything. And one of the strangest things about the
Wuhan experience with the NIH is just how friendly everybody
seemed to be. Everybody's cooperating. There was an assumption that
(35:27):
that even though we're really different, we're really all on
the same team. We're all working together, and there was
not a lot of suspicion going back and forth. There's
also the you know, people like Fauci in the industry
who represents are kind of they sort of represent a
meta layer of government in the world, is sort of
(35:49):
a globalist force that's not necessarily you know, focused on
the national interest of the United States, but that was
sort of the ideology for decades after the Cold War.
You know that we're all in this together, and it's
all going to be great. We're all going to grow together,
we're going to trade together, we're going to exchange secrets together.
We're going to cooperate them science together. And that's why
(36:12):
it was in Wuhan. And and of course the CCP
doesn't play like that, right, but the US Scientific Establishment,
you know, absolutely did. The other thing is that there
was a lot of sketchiness associated with doing gain and
function research in the US, and it's very dangerous. It
(36:33):
had been it had been ended under a bomb of
all things, and then sort of restarted. But Fauci was
looking for a for places around the world to put
his to put his bio weapons. But you know, I say,
Fauci Fauchu working on behalf of this meta layer of
(36:55):
classified bio weapons industry. We're looking for labs around the
world to do this work, to keep it out of
prying eyes, you know. So it was a secret lab.
There are many others, according to Telsea gabbartt there are
many others around the world. This executive order takes big
steps towards shutting that down. This is a really scary
(37:17):
clandescent world. That's you're you know about what you hear
rumors and talk. When you're hanging around in DC circles,
you'll run into somebody who claims to know all about
it and give you an earful but very little verifiable
information about where the labs were and what they're doing
and that sort of thing. That's necessarily the case because
(37:37):
it's all classified. You know. I want to say somebody
else here too, because I don't think readers entirely understand,
as I didn't for a very long time, what is
a connection between this lab leak and Mouvan, whether it
was intentional or or accidental. I don't really know what
was the connection between this lab leak that probably occurred
(37:59):
in Septimber or so of two thousand and nineteen and
the lockdowns that came to us in the spring of
twenty twenty. That's where it gets a little bit murky,
because I couldn't. It took me a long time to
sort of knit these stories together. But apparently the way
it went was was this that the Lablique happened, the
(38:19):
Military Olympics took place in move On, lots of people
got sick. Fauci and company and many others military, certainly
intelligence official Ci and so I certainly knew about the
league as early as as October, and knew that it
had already come to the US, and according to the
(38:42):
official record, it was Jeremy Farrarr and Fauci were on
the phone in late January trying to figure out what
to do about it. Now, I assumed that that happened
much much earlier. It probably was in November, December something
like that, but anyway, they dated late January, and Fararar
says in his book that they were panicked that they
(39:04):
were going to get blamed for starting World War three. So,
you know, this is a kind of a weird world
of a apocalyptic scientific crazy people, and they believe that
they have this power to start World War three, and
they briefly thought that they had. And so it really
(39:28):
did turn on this question was it a lab origin
or was it zoonotic origin? And I think what must
have happened is that Fauci and all of his cohorts
decided that they would just commission a paper that would
announce that it was it jumped from a panglin or
a bat to humans thanks to the wet markets in China,
(39:53):
and that will underscore their key research things. We have
to continue to doing gata function research so we can
get ahead of the emergent spillovers that are happening from
animals to humans due to industrialization, urbanization, whatever, deforestation, the
gabilities kind of excuses. So they thought they would turn
(40:14):
what was really a labilique that would be blamed on
them into a story of zoonotic release that would underscore
their whole spillover theory and give them more power to
continue their game function research and their planning. And by
August David Morins and Anthony Faucio, co author or a
(40:36):
major article Argost of twenty twenty, a major article in
the journal called Sell that laid out a ten thousand
year history of viral spillovers due to too much moving around,
too much freedom, too much pet ownership, too much urbanization,
and so on. And they said in that article that
(40:59):
in order to event this kind of thing in the future,
we need a radical reconstruction of the infrastructure of the
human social order, something like that, And it was it
was a tremendously scary article. Now, this article comes out
during lockdown, so this was really their vision. It was
alablique that they didn't want to get blamed for, so
(41:20):
instead they decided to spend it as zoonotic release, a
consequence of spillover and therefore justification for them having ever
more power. So part of the thinking of the lockdown
was to create a kind of a gaslight the entire
(41:41):
public for as long as possible, spread fear and panic
and terror under the presumption that it was it was
it was terrible pathogens leaking from animals to humans. Get
everybody whipped up in a frenzy. Here's your mask, here's
your pucks of gas. Here's your arrows on your on
your grocery store. Your kids can't go to school, your
church's closed, we have to cancel Easter and everything because
(42:03):
we have to wait for the great cure, which is
coming soon enough. They promised it, you know, in the
fall to Trump, and so Trump probably believed that he
was going to distribute these vaccines to the whole country
and everybody's going to get cured. In REGARDHM as a hero.
They delayed as long as possible, in fact, un till
after the election, and then when it came out, you know,
(42:26):
the idea was to guarantee maximum uptake of their product.
They were selling a consumer product because Pfizer and Maderna
with her M R and A technologies working very closely
with the bioweapons industry. Obviously it was a military run,
you know, kind of response and program. So all of
this happened. It all sounds great, great, but the thing
(42:47):
that ruined it for them and exposed them was the
fact that the Great Shot didn't work. Now, keep in mind,
probably had reached some level of of pathogenic and dinicity
by the summer even earlier of twenty twenty, so they
had to kind of keep a frenzy going throughout the
(43:09):
rest of the year and all the way into the
next year about community spread. We're going to die, even
though the data was very clear that despite its being lablique,
it was not actually dangerous to working eage people, healthy
people at all.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
I remember it like it was yesterday, but a trigger nightmare.
Speaker 13 (43:29):
That's when the trust collapsed.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Yeah, yeah, and it's still collapsed. It's freaking awful. Jeffrey,
thank you, Go back soon, sir.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
We have light in the mood.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Next, all right, it is time to lighten the mood.
And I don't know if you knew this, but today
is National Nurses Day, and so we thought we would
honor one of the all time greats. I have been
(44:02):
in the hospital a couple of times nothing major, but
I had an emergency. I've been back to me and
my tonsils out and stuff like that, and the nurses
I've had have.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Been very for the most part, very helpful, very pleasant.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
But I'm sad to say, especially as a young man,
I never had a nurse like Pearl.
Speaker 6 (44:18):
And I had a nurse named Pearl Nelson Military. She'd
come in and do things, and I don't think you
can learn the medical school nursing school. She'd whisper in
my ear. I couldn't understand him. She whispering, she'd lean down.
He'd actually breathe on me to make sure that I was.
There was a connection to human connection. She even if
we went home and brought back her pillow from her
(44:39):
own bed, because he didn't knew the one I had,
the one comfortable. But I'm not joking.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Pearl sounds awesome. I'll seeable
Let's talk about the internal war we have going on
in the country. One of our senators betrayed a surprise, surprise,
Marsha Blackburn is here. So much more coming up on
im right now. Let's have a kind of back to
(00:24):
the basics chat, shall we, before we get to what
Pete hag Seth is doing, why it's so important? And
Trump yesterday he signed an executive order and the executive
order was not wasn't majorly important as far as tangibly
doing anything. Really, it was an executive order to say, hey,
the day we won World War one, it's a big
(00:46):
deal and we should celebrate that.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
That should be a holiday.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
The day we won World War two, that's kind of
a big deal, and it should be a holiday, national holiday.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I love that he put in there.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
We don't need any days off where we have too
many holidays, but should be a day we celebrate.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
So why even bring this.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Up at all because it wasn't that major, Well, it
was a left's reaction to it. And what we're about
to talk about may seem very basic, and if you're
where you need to be, it will.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Be very basic.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
If you're not where you need to be, you won't
buy it, They'll probably make you uncomfortable, but accepting what
the motivation of Democrats today is is everything? Know thy
enemy if you will, knowing what they truly want is everything?
(01:36):
And look in life period, would you go out for
a date if you're saying and you're out there dating,
it's important.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It's important to understand what do you want? What are
your motivations?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Just looking for a good time at a red lobster
on a Friday night, looking to settle down and get
somebody a wedding ring, a child? What's their motivation? Does
it match yours? Understanding? Motivations are important. Democrats hate the
United States of America and they want to destroy it.
I can't put it any more frankly than that. And
(02:08):
until you get to that place of understanding, you'll always
be lost. You'll always be shocked, You'll always you'll wake
up what every day and you'll look at the news?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
What are they?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I can't believe that? Do you ever find yourself saying that?
You say that a lot. I can't believe they. Why
can't you believe it? What would you do if you
hated the country? You remember?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Do you remember a few.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Years ago when this mar Gray went on MSNBC and
she said this about the flag.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Long Island this weekend visiting a really dear friend, and
I was really disturbed. I saw, you know, dozens and
dozens of pickup trucks with you know, explicatives against Joe
Biden on the back of them, Trump flags, and some
cases just dozens of American flags, which you know, is
(03:00):
also just disturbing because essentially the message was clear, it
was this is my country.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I'm glad she I'm glad we dug that up because
I wanted to talk to you about what we're discussing here.
How I came to this realization because I was once
one of those very naive people who believe that those
the people on the left are just kind of misguided.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
We all want the same things, that lame thing.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I used to think like that too, Well, we all
kind of want the same things. They're just kind of
naive or they don't understand. They don't understand that taking
away guns will increase violent crime. They don't understand that
opening up the border will actually destroy the country. I
made all these excuses, but it was that conversation that
Mark Ray just had.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I had it with so many and the conversation.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Usually when something like this, they were starting to sprinkle
politics into professional sports, TV commercials, things like that, companies
were starting to take always left wing political stances. I
started pitching a fit about it because this is back
when I was super into sports. Can I just watched
the NFL game without all this politics, and every Democrat
(04:11):
I knew, every one of them, said politics have always
been in the NFL. What's your problem? And I would,
of course ask why, how do you figure that? They
would say, well, they always have the military there, they
always play the national anthem there. I'll think about that
(04:31):
for a moment. The United States military is partisan. A
partisan to me shouldn't be. It's a big organization full
of people who are willing to lay down their lives
for defense of America.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Not political.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Well, in the eyes of somebody who hates America, the
organization dedicated to protecting America is very very political.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
You see.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
That's how this works. That brings me to what that did.
He just announced twenty percent cut across the board of
four stars, generals and admirals. Now you should understand, we
have more four stars today than we had during World
War Two. We have this because the United States military
is a corrupt, criminal organization, a good old boy network
(05:18):
where evil, corrupt scumbags promote each other all the time,
reward each other with generous gifts. They bounce back and
forth from being three stars and four stars into working
at the defense industry for a million dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It's a really terrible system. Here was Pete talking about it.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
We are leaving wokeness and weakness behind. No more pronouns,
no more climate change obsession, no more emergency vaccine mandates,
no more dudes in dresses.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
We're done with that.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
We're focused on lethality, meritocracy, accountability, standards, and readiness.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
That's magnificent.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
But you can't do that without cleaning out the communist
rod at the top. And so they're starting to chop
away at the top. But that brings me back to
a conversation we've had many times, and we'll have it
again right now. Why did the system try so hard
to stop Pete Hegseth, And why are they still trying
so hard to stop Pete Hegseth. In fact, let's not
(06:38):
even do the system part. Let's talk about our role
in this, Your role, in my role, I'm talking about
our role as people on the right because the left
Democrats elected Democrats, they don't actually have the power to
stop really much at all right now, Yet some things
are getting stopped. Pete Hegseth almost had his nomination with
(07:00):
we had to bully Joni Earnst into backing off. But
there was one senator from the very red state now
of North Dakota, Tom North Dakota of North Carolina. Tom
Tillis is his name, and he was working very hard
behind the scenes to torpedo Pete hegset Now keep in
mind North Carolina could have the reddest Republican humanity possible.
(07:23):
Instead they have Tom Tillis. And it's funny Tom Tillis
is in the news because Tom Tillis is also the
one out there blocking Ed Martin. Yes, that's right, you see,
he's already announced he wouldn't support him. He is.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I don't believe he's being in advanced to the markup.
And I'm met with mister Martin. He seems like a
good man. Most of my concerns related to January sixth,
and he built a compelling case on some of the
fifteen twelve prosecutions that were probably heat of the moment decisions.
But where we probably have a difference is I think
(08:04):
anybody that reached the perimeter should have been in prison
for some period of time. Whether it's thirty days or
three years is debatable. But I have no tolerance for
anybody who entered the building on January the sixth, and
that's probably where most of the friction was. If mister
Martin were being put for it as a US attorney
for any district except the district where January sixth happened
the protest happened, I probably support them, but not in
(08:27):
this district. At this point, I've indicated to the White
House I wouldn't support his nomination.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
At Trump called you and.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
I talk all the time.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I'll make you angry.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Do keep in mind that Ed Martin taking over the
DC district is pretty much the most important thing Trump
wants to do. That district is full of communist snakes
who've attacked the American people with a vigor over the
last four years, throwing as many of them as they
could in prison. Ed Martin's going to go in there
and clean it out. And that's why people like Tom Tillis,
(09:01):
Red State Republicans step up and stop it. Whenever we're
right on the cusp of a really really important victory,
we'll flirt with important victories, we'll do a little of
this little that. But when we're on the cusp with
something tangible, something lasting, it's Red state Republicans that step
in and stop it. It's always John Cornyn, It's always
(09:21):
James Langford, Tom Tillis, Cassidy Thune, Rounds Unit Curtis, you
name it, Red state after red state after red state.
So my point in this little rant is it comes
back to you and me changing our voting behavior in
primaries and changing the voter behavior of the people we know,
(09:42):
because we can't get long lasting, tangible wins with these
losers in there. And speaking of Langford, let's talk really
briefly here before we wrap this up about immigration, because again,
the communists hate the country, as we just talked about,
they're bringing in as many foreigners.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
As humanly possible.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
If you look at the television set and you look
at people like Ihan Omar saying like this, and you're mortified,
you should understand that we have, in a roundabout way,
people like this sitting in Congress because of Red State Republicans.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Congressman Omar and Miles Morale with the Daily Caller News Foundation.
Speaker 7 (10:17):
Do you think more of your Democratic colleague should be traveling.
Speaker 8 (10:20):
To El Salvador to advocate on behalf of a bitting
on Garcia?
Speaker 9 (10:23):
I think you should.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, I'm sorry, what Congressman? Who should you?
Speaker 7 (10:28):
Why?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Me?
Speaker 10 (10:30):
I'm not thinking at anyting more questions right now, but
here you go.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah. Thanks.
Speaker 11 (10:34):
I would say our country should be more fearful of
white man across our country because they are actually causing
most of the deaths within this country.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Angry that she's in Congress.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
She's in Congress because for decades the United States of
America has allowed the mass importation of barbarians from foreign lands,
and now communist activists can show up from those foreign
lands and get elected to Congress and then use their
position in Congress to subvert and destroy the United States
of America. And if you're upset about that mess importation,
you should understand it doesn't happen without red state Republicans.
(11:19):
James Langford just last year from the reddest state in
the Union, Oklahoma, tried to get amnesty passed with the Democrats.
That's why you have ihann omar in her like in Congress.
All that may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right.
We will talk to Marshall Blackburn about Ed Martin, about
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Speaker 2 (12:27):
We'll be back.
Speaker 10 (12:37):
You may have heard one big, beautiful bill floating around Congress.
This bill is big and beautiful for main Street America
and investors alike. The President's Signature tax legislation will prevent
an enormous tax hike on Main Street.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Well, I like Scott Bessenting.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
He seems like a very sharp guy, so I'm not
dogging on them for rolling out the talking points. But
you'll have to excuse me if I don't think this
Congress is capable of a big beautiful bill, nor is
any Congress, because everyone stuffs a bunch of corrupt crap
in there. Joining me now is Senator Marshall Blackburn from
the great State of Tennessee. Senator, do I even want
to ask what's in this big beautiful bill.
Speaker 12 (13:20):
Well, the main thing is this helps us past President
Trump's agenda because it will make the Trump tax cuts
from twenty seventeen permanent, and then also expand R and D, bonus,
deppreciation and interest. You know, those expired at the end
of last year, and so we have to put them back.
(13:44):
That means we have to have a pay for and
that's where all of those good doge cuts come in,
and we'll be able to pay for those. There's some
other things that are our savings for the American people
that we're looking at, like one of my bills, which
is to remove the income tax from Social Security for seniors,
(14:09):
and we'll do our best to get that in there.
And also a childcare tax credit for employers that offer
childcare for their employees. And there is a provision that
exists already for large corporations, but we're adding small businesses
to that. So, you know, Jesse, We've got this bill
(14:33):
that we're working on, and then we have the opportunity
before the twenty six elections to do two more reconciliation bills,
and we will be able to do another one this
fall and one next year this time, so we can
have three big, beautiful bills. And I'm looking forward to
(14:56):
saving the taxpayers as much as we can, getting to
a balanced budget, which is President Trump's goal, and then
also beginning to cut into the baseline so that we
cut into the debt.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
All right, let's talk about what we can expect going forward.
Permanent tax cuts as music to my ears. But we've
got two reconciliation.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Bills still to come.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Are there going to be good things in that or
a bunch of bad stuff that's horrible?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Oh?
Speaker 12 (15:25):
No, I think what you will do is see some
other savings. We've got a healthcare proposals that are floating
around part of my work on reigning in the pharmacy
benefit managers. They're the ones that drive up the cost
of pharmaceuticals for our nation's seniors and raining them in
(15:50):
moving them from a rebate over to a service fee
of flat fee would save a lot of money. Looking
at putting a shot clock on insurance companies to make
decisions and be there to pay bills. This is something
whether it is Medicaid or Medicare, they slow walk paying
(16:11):
the hospitals and they may take two hundred days to
pay a bill. And what we're doing is saying no,
these are actions that you preapproved and then you need
to pay the bill when you get the bill. So
there are different things we can do that will help
(16:34):
help the government run more efficiently, that will reduce cost
and will yield as savings for the taxpayer. That is
our goal, and that is all part of President Trump's agenda.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Senator, before I let you go, I wanted to ask
about Ed Martin. I know Tom Tillis came out. He
sure sounds like he's a no, and a fairly firm no.
Does that sink Ed Martin? Is he going to get through?
Speaker 12 (17:01):
I don't know the answer to that, I've not talked
with my colleagues at Judiciary. I did hear someone mentioned
Senator Tillis's comments, but you know, Jesse, I don't know.
I know that he that Ed Martin has been there
as the acting in d C and has done a
(17:24):
solid job getting criminals into court and carrying out these
prosecutions and stopping some of this crime wave that has
been so rampant here in DC.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Senator, thank you, I appreciate you very much. All right,
speaking of a crime wave, we have judges committing crimes.
Talked to Wade about that next wave stops.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I'm sorry.
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Speaker 8 (18:50):
Government wanted Owen McIntyre to spend the time before trial
behind bars, but the judge and Boston sided with the
defense and this cage, which cited multiple medical issues facing
the nineteen year old, including autism, spectrum disorder, ginger dysphoria,
and eighty HD. McIntyre's attorney, are you the team should
(19:13):
be released, citing serious and ongoing medical needs and treatments
that could not or would not be provided while in
federal detention. The defense filing says McIntyre is being treated
for depression and since March has been receiving ginger affirming care,
that care would likely be interrupted or terminated in federal custody.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
So this guy's not behind bars because he's going through
tranny surgery. Joining me now, Wade Stott, host of The
Wade Show with Wade. Okay, Wade, could you please clarify
what exactly is the problem here, what's going on?
Speaker 9 (19:53):
Yeah, so a trans terrorist is basically the left George Washington.
So I don't expect them to really throw the book
at their ideal American. But there's no way that they
were going to get special treatment whoever, whatever he or
she is. So it's the Anarco half of Narco tyranny.
So the left favorite groups get a pass to cause destruction,
make life miserable for normal people. So and they released
(20:14):
the person for also medicated for their HD eighty eight
HD and depression. So I don't know if sitting still
in class is quite the same thing as thinking you're
a man or a woman when you're not. No concern atree,
alleged terrorist walking free.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yes, no, no concern at all.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Wait, earlier today the Supreme Court upheld the trainee ban,
which I guess is something. But I despise the Supreme Court.
I've been screaming about ignoring the Supreme Court. But this
is something you've been hot on for a while. When
it comes to well, he has to obey the lower courts.
He can't do poor people. He's a president, he has
to ignore them.
Speaker 9 (20:58):
Yeah, I've noticed a lot of this during the Trump
trials that we were sort of sitting around in our
major political moments, waiting around for people who are accountable
to no one to say something that we knew was
probably going to be ridiculous. And so the legal battles
weren't going to stop when they couldn't put Trump in jail.
They definitely weren't going to stop after he became president.
This is a good ruling from the Supreme Court, but
(21:19):
really what we're seeing now is a baseline controversy over
who's going to be sovereign. Judges are seen right now
as the same kind of priest class that doctors were
back in twenty twenty. So people appeal to these rulings
the same way they might appeal to Fauci and others
and whoever else. So the judicial system really is just
one area where our system has become a parody of itself,
(21:42):
so because the original American system assumed the original American character.
But what we're seeing is an actual crisis of sovereignty,
the question of who is going to rule. So once
in a while, you can create a system like the Constitution,
like the American system, and once in a while there's
going to be something that pops up that where the
rules aren't clear, where there isn't a section in the
institution that tells us what to do when twenty million
(22:02):
foreigners invade over the course of just a few years.
So when something like that happens, whoever makes the decision
is the one who's actually in charge. So no clear
legal president president means that there's somebody's got to make
a call. The problem is that the courts really can
slow Trump down. So now that someone has to make
the call, the left is sort of in the conservative position,
(22:25):
trying to uphold or at least preserve their procedural roadblocks
that they can use to up against Trump. But Trump's
advantage is that he's on the offensive. He's in pursuit
of his goals. Again, I agree with the recent one
from the Supreme Court, but that's again the question of
sovereignty is still there.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
What how do we end up as a country with
a bunch of judges that, I mean, frankly hate the
United States of America. We're not talking about somebody who
leans left or something like that. When you look at
these lower court judges, the DC judges, these are communist
revolutionaries in black robes.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
How in the world do we get here.
Speaker 9 (23:03):
Yeah, we have a system that we like to think
of as being about the rule of law, So that's
really easy to pervert into the rule of judges. So
the rule of law assumes a law above the people,
and then that these judges are here just to rule
on things and are supposed to take in the precedent
of what's happened before. But as soon as you take
(23:24):
people again who, like you said, I think, hate America,
they're not trying to preserve the original intent of any
of these laws. What basically happens is that they'll make
a call and then have some clerk find some precedent
to tack on at the end as a sort of footnote.
The real difference, yeah, is the character behind the person.
(23:46):
If the person is there, there could be disagreements between
two people who love the same things what the right
thing to do is in a particular situation. But the
kind of disagreements between someone who loves the country and
loves our founding, loves the print and the people who
made us who we are, it's different if the person
hates those people, so that those are different characters of arguments.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, kind of a kind of blows up a whole argument.
To be honest with you, Wade, Thank you brother, come
back soon. All right, we have a lot, but before
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Speaker 7 (25:21):
It first relates to gain of function research. Gain of
function research is a type of biomedical research where pathogens
are adulterated. Viruses are adulterated to make them more potent
or to change the way that they function. Exact many
people believe that gain of function research was one of
the key causes of the COVID pandemic that struck us
(25:43):
in the last decade. What this executive order does, first
of all, it provides powerful new tools to enforce the
ban on federal funding for gain of function research abroad.
It also strengthens other oversight mechanisms related to that issue
and creates an overarching strategy to ensure that biomedical research
(26:05):
in general is being conducted safely and in a way
that ultimately protects human health more.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
It's a big deal.
Speaker 13 (26:13):
It could have been that we wouldn't have had the problem.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
We had a lot of people say that, sir.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
We had this done earlier.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Okay, we got an executive order, But what does all
this stuff mean. I'd still find it confusing to this
day why some of this stuff even exists. Joining me
now to break down some of this stuff for us,
Jeffrey A. Tucker, President of the Brownstone Institute, Jeffrey, can
we go.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Back to the basics here and can you explain to me.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Like I'm really really dumb, why there is any entity
on the planet that is trying to make viruses more potent?
Speaker 13 (26:51):
But as we know, the fundamental reason does actually trace
to bioweapons research. So the idea is to make a
path of you and make the cure and then have
a weapon that you can use against civilian populations of
RFK gave a miniature talk at that event. It was
(27:13):
like two minutes description of the history of US bioweapons
research in every country in the world since World War Two.
It's wicked, it's horrible. It's sort of post nuclear bomb stuff. Now,
for sure, none of this discussion about SARS, Kobe two
or COVID has publicly been talked about in the framework
(27:36):
of bioweapons research, but it's pretty well known that that's
really ultimately what this research is about. You could render
it in a number of different ways, but you could
put it in the civilian contexts all, we're just looking
for better ways to get ahead of zo notic outbreaks
(28:00):
up the diseases that pass from animals humans and we
need antidotes to fix that, and okay, fine, But more fundamentally,
it is all wrapped up with the bioweapons research issue,
and that is all classified material, and so that's why
(28:22):
we don't talk about it. That's why we don't have
a lot of records. That's why even this executive order
seems to carve out certain exemptions which frustrate people, and
they look at it like, well, why are we, why
we why we Why don't we just ban it? Why
don't we just stop this nonsense? But but that gets
us into another area entirely, so they won't go there. Nonetheless,
(28:45):
I'm thrilled by this, by this, by this executive order
as it exists. It's a tremendous leap forward. And I
found myself just a little bit, you know, almost emotion
just watching this press conference with Jay and Martin mcuerie
and RFK up there with Trump signing this executive order,
(29:09):
because it does it is true that the COVID experience
traces to this gain of function research that's taking place
on contract with the Wuhan Lab, and those people in
that room, the three of them, Trump presided over the
whole thing, at least in its inception, and we'll get
(29:33):
to that in a second. But the other three were
the top three of the top resistors of the COVID
controls of lockdowns and the response to the pandemic conditions
that took place in March. And there they are now
in charge passing executive orders to try to contain the
kind of research that led to the whole chaos. I
(29:56):
do want to say one quick thing about that Clippy
played that I thought was so very interesting. We all
know this happened under Trump. It began, you know, in
March twenty twenty, when, at least according to the official record,
Berg Stauci and others, we don't know who the others
were leaned into Trump and they said, basically, listen, this
(30:20):
is going to happen one way or the other, so
you better shape up and go along with it, right,
And he acquiesced now at that within a few weeks
of that happening, he realized he had lost control of
his presidency, unfortunately, and that was a tragedy for him.
(30:43):
And he was basically not the president between March and
when and the election, and he kind of knew it.
He was sort of reduced to tweeting his way all
the way to the election. But there was a little
hint of of pensive sad what he said. It's like,
we wouldn't have if this had been in place before,
(31:04):
none of this would have happened. And you could just
see just a moment where he hesitates in a moment
of personal reflection. We've had far too little of that,
you know, We've wanted for four years for him to
just kind of make a clean statement that this is
a disaster, that he allowed a disaster to happen under
his watch, that he didn't resist the pandemic planets far enough,
(31:28):
but he's never said that. We have to believe that
he does regret it, but we don't really have the
evidence of that. So that was just a really interesting
moment when he looked back and said, gosh, I wish
that this had been in place before. But at the
same time, you know, it's so remarkable when he got
elected in twenty sixteen, if you come to him and said,
(31:51):
mister president, you need to be careful because there's some
dangerous research being taken place in Wuhan where they're going
to produce a virus. Then they're going to come to
you and say we have cure and tell you to
destroy the US economy and participate in the destructure of
the global economy. You better shut this down now. I mean,
would he have believed it. I wouldn't think so. I mean,
(32:11):
that's kind of the last thing you would expect to
have happened as president for some wild and crazy caper
like that to take place.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Jeffrey, I want to go back to something you said
a couple of minutes ago about, you know, I wish
they would just spend it all, but they left some
carve outs in there, and I mean, I guess we
all kind of know why.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Why.
Speaker 13 (32:36):
Well, it has something to do with national security and
the belief that governments around the world are still engaged
in this research, and the belief that it would come
out to unilateral disarmament if the US stopped it all together.
I think that that's very likely what this is about,
that the US would somehow handicap itself and the bioweapons
(33:00):
arms race if it just stopped, stopped doing it completely,
and you know, national security would be saying, Hey, this
is crazy. The Rand's doing it, is doing it, She's
doing it, China's doing it. Why why should we do
it too? Something like that, Or if we're going to stop,
let's not make a public announcement to that effect, because
that would have been broadcast to all governments in the
(33:21):
world that you're free to create all the pathogens you want,
and the US would be completely disarmed. I there's probably
some I can imagine that that national security officials were
involved in this. So Trump finds himself in this position
of threading the needle between you know, these brilliant people
(33:42):
in the room with him just now, and then other
people who are not in that room who are whispering
in his ear otherwise. So even give a gift all
that the the executive order is, I think as well,
it's actually vastly better than I would have expected. I
never would have expected in an executive order like this
at all. So for this to come out shows we're
(34:05):
on a really good track. And to tell you the truth,
I think this is probably just the beginning of unraveling
the entanglements between the executive branch and the pharmaceutical industry
and the bioweapons industry. I think we're going to see
(34:26):
more efforts along this line. This is a big step,
but there's probably going to be more things coming in
in the coming weeks and months.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Jeffrey, why China? And let me let me finish the
question this way, of all the things that are very
odd and nefarious and evil with this whole thing, the
fact that we are working with our mortal enemy China
in China to create weaponized viruses that in and of itself,
(34:57):
everything else aside is so bunkers to me.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
How did we get there?
Speaker 13 (35:04):
Well, it probably began when when the US invited China
into the World Trade Organization. There was a widespread belief
for decades that we were all friends, we're all cooperating
and everything. And one of the strangest things about the
Wuhan experience with the NIH is just how friendly everybody
seemed to be. Everybody's cooperating. There was an assumption that
(35:27):
that even though we're really different, we're really all on
the same team. We're all working together, and there was
not a lot of suspicion going back and forth. There's
also the you know, people like Fauci in the industry
who represents are kind of they sort of represent a
meta layer of government in the world, is sort of
(35:49):
a globalist force that's not necessarily you know, focused on
the national interest of the United States, but that was
sort of the ideology for decades after the Cold War.
You know that we're all in this together, and it's
all going to be great. We're all going to grow together,
we're going to trade together, we're going to exchange secrets together.
We're going to cooperate them science together. And that's why
(36:12):
it was in Wuhan. And and of course the CCP
doesn't play like that, right, but the US Scientific Establishment,
you know, absolutely did. The other thing is that there
was a lot of sketchiness associated with doing gain and
function research in the US, and it's very dangerous. It
(36:33):
had been it had been ended under a bomb of
all things, and then sort of restarted. But Fauci was
looking for a for places around the world to put
his to put his bio weapons. But you know, I say,
Fauci Fauchu working on behalf of this meta layer of
(36:55):
classified bio weapons industry. We're looking for labs around the
world to do this work, to keep it out of
prying eyes, you know. So it was a secret lab.
There are many others, according to Telsea gabbartt there are
many others around the world. This executive order takes big
steps towards shutting that down. This is a really scary
(37:17):
clandescent world. That's you're you know about what you hear
rumors and talk. When you're hanging around in DC circles,
you'll run into somebody who claims to know all about
it and give you an earful but very little verifiable
information about where the labs were and what they're doing
and that sort of thing. That's necessarily the case because
(37:37):
it's all classified. You know. I want to say somebody
else here too, because I don't think readers entirely understand,
as I didn't for a very long time, what is
a connection between this lab leak and Mouvan, whether it
was intentional or or accidental. I don't really know what
was the connection between this lab leak that probably occurred
(37:59):
in Septimber or so of two thousand and nineteen and
the lockdowns that came to us in the spring of
twenty twenty. That's where it gets a little bit murky,
because I couldn't. It took me a long time to
sort of knit these stories together. But apparently the way
it went was was this that the Lablique happened, the
(38:19):
Military Olympics took place in move On, lots of people
got sick. Fauci and company and many others military, certainly
intelligence official Ci and so I certainly knew about the
league as early as as October, and knew that it
had already come to the US, and according to the
(38:42):
official record, it was Jeremy Farrarr and Fauci were on
the phone in late January trying to figure out what
to do about it. Now, I assumed that that happened
much much earlier. It probably was in November, December something
like that, but anyway, they dated late January, and Fararar
says in his book that they were panicked that they
(39:04):
were going to get blamed for starting World War three. So,
you know, this is a kind of a weird world
of a apocalyptic scientific crazy people, and they believe that
they have this power to start World War three, and
they briefly thought that they had. And so it really
(39:28):
did turn on this question was it a lab origin
or was it zoonotic origin? And I think what must
have happened is that Fauci and all of his cohorts
decided that they would just commission a paper that would
announce that it was it jumped from a panglin or
a bat to humans thanks to the wet markets in China,
(39:53):
and that will underscore their key research things. We have
to continue to doing gata function research so we can
get ahead of the emergent spillovers that are happening from
animals to humans due to industrialization, urbanization, whatever, deforestation, the
gabilities kind of excuses. So they thought they would turn
(40:14):
what was really a labilique that would be blamed on
them into a story of zoonotic release that would underscore
their whole spillover theory and give them more power to
continue their game function research and their planning. And by
August David Morins and Anthony Faucio, co author or a
(40:36):
major article Argost of twenty twenty, a major article in
the journal called Sell that laid out a ten thousand
year history of viral spillovers due to too much moving around,
too much freedom, too much pet ownership, too much urbanization,
and so on. And they said in that article that
(40:59):
in order to event this kind of thing in the future,
we need a radical reconstruction of the infrastructure of the
human social order, something like that, And it was it
was a tremendously scary article. Now, this article comes out
during lockdown, so this was really their vision. It was
alablique that they didn't want to get blamed for, so
(41:20):
instead they decided to spend it as zoonotic release, a
consequence of spillover and therefore justification for them having ever
more power. So part of the thinking of the lockdown
was to create a kind of a gaslight the entire
(41:41):
public for as long as possible, spread fear and panic
and terror under the presumption that it was it was
it was terrible pathogens leaking from animals to humans. Get
everybody whipped up in a frenzy. Here's your mask, here's
your pucks of gas. Here's your arrows on your on
your grocery store. Your kids can't go to school, your
church's closed, we have to cancel Easter and everything because
(42:03):
we have to wait for the great cure, which is
coming soon enough. They promised it, you know, in the
fall to Trump, and so Trump probably believed that he
was going to distribute these vaccines to the whole country
and everybody's going to get cured. In REGARDHM as a hero.
They delayed as long as possible, in fact, un till
after the election, and then when it came out, you know,
(42:26):
the idea was to guarantee maximum uptake of their product.
They were selling a consumer product because Pfizer and Maderna
with her M R and A technologies working very closely
with the bioweapons industry. Obviously it was a military run,
you know, kind of response and program. So all of
this happened. It all sounds great, great, but the thing
(42:47):
that ruined it for them and exposed them was the
fact that the Great Shot didn't work. Now, keep in mind,
probably had reached some level of of pathogenic and dinicity
by the summer even earlier of twenty twenty, so they
had to kind of keep a frenzy going throughout the
(43:09):
rest of the year and all the way into the
next year about community spread. We're going to die, even
though the data was very clear that despite its being lablique,
it was not actually dangerous to working eage people, healthy
people at all.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
I remember it like it was yesterday, but a trigger nightmare.
Speaker 13 (43:29):
That's when the trust collapsed.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Yeah, yeah, and it's still collapsed. It's freaking awful. Jeffrey,
thank you, Go back soon, sir.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
We have light in the mood.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Next, all right, it is time to lighten the mood.
And I don't know if you knew this, but today
is National Nurses Day, and so we thought we would
honor one of the all time greats. I have been
(44:02):
in the hospital a couple of times nothing major, but
I had an emergency. I've been back to me and
my tonsils out and stuff like that, and the nurses
I've had have.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Been very for the most part, very helpful, very pleasant.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
But I'm sad to say, especially as a young man,
I never had a nurse like Pearl.
Speaker 6 (44:18):
And I had a nurse named Pearl Nelson Military. She'd
come in and do things, and I don't think you
can learn the medical school nursing school. She'd whisper in
my ear. I couldn't understand him. She whispering, she'd lean down.
He'd actually breathe on me to make sure that I was.
There was a connection to human connection. She even if
we went home and brought back her pillow from her
(44:39):
own bed, because he didn't knew the one I had,
the one comfortable. But I'm not joking.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Pearl sounds awesome. I'll seeable
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