May 22, 2025 • 46 mins
President Trump is calling for serious accountability when it comes to the Biden decline cover-up. So who is responsible? Jesse Kelly has pinpointed at least one prominent figure. Jesse also discusses the media's role alongside Stu Burguiere. This also comes as Andrew Cuomo is being investigated by the DOJ. Will he go to prison? Jesse discusses that, as well as some Supreme Court news with William A. Jacobson.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Who was actually running the White House will give you
a name to think about. Tonight, we have more things
happening at the Supreme Court. Is Andrew Cuomo going to jail?
All that and more coming up on our mind. You know,
(00:22):
one of the greatest moments of my life, this is
going to come to Joe Biden and his disastrous Communist
presidency and the cover up and everything else. But you know,
one of the greatest moments of my life. My dad
was in construction. You know, I come from a construction family.
His dad did construction. That's what I did. And one time,
(00:43):
one time only when I was a kid, he took
me on one of his work trips. He had to
go to a caterpillar you know, the big the big
construction equipment you see all over the place, all the
yellow stuff that's caterpillar. We had to go to Peoria, Illinois.
They had a big caterpillar factory there look at a
bunch of equipment. I think I was six or seven
at the time, and they had this big arena, almost
(01:04):
like a basketball arena that they filled in with a
bunch of dirt and they had all the equipment out
there and you could drive it move it around, and
the guys were awesome. I was the only kid there,
so me had a bunch of rough, tough construction guys
and they let me run one of the machines. They
put me in it, turned it on, and here I am.
I can't hurt anything, really because I'm in the middle
(01:26):
of this big dirt thing. But all this power is mine.
I can do whatever I want with it. It was Look,
I was six or seven. This is almost forty years ago.
I still remember it like it was yesterday. That's how
great this moment was in my life. That's essentially what
happened to the United States of America during Joe Biden's presidency.
(01:46):
Only it wasn't a seven year old child who got
unbelievable amounts of power and could do whatever he wanted
with it. It was America hating communists. You see, we
are so differing now. There's a reason we're still talking
about this. We are suffering now and we will continue
to suffer for I don't know how long the disaster
(02:08):
of Joe Biden's presidency, if you just think about all
the illegals they brought in, may very well be on
a long enough timeline. A mortal wound from which the
United States of America cannot recover. But why was it
so bad? How could you destroy that much in four years?
(02:29):
It's almost as if it's almost as if there was
a focused effort to destroy We're not talking about some
normal Democrat doing some Democrat policies and oh whoopseie that
didn't work out. It's almost as if there was a
focused effort by people who hate the country to burn
down as much of it as they could with the
(02:50):
time they had. And that's exactly what happened. You see,
we are now treated to the latest story. This story
is well, I've been doing politics for about twenty years now.
I didn't really get into politics till I got out
of the Marine Corps. But since then, because it's my nature,
I've obsessed over it. I do what you do. I read,
(03:10):
I listen, I watch. I've just obsessed over history and
politics and things. I've never even heard of something like
this before.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
And Alex, the fact of the fake town hall is
not actually the worst part of the story that you
report in the book.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yes, other campaigns have used fake town halls. Now, I
would say those town halls usually are in addition to
real town halls Joe Biden was doing neither. This fake
town hall was in order to film it so they
can make it into campaign commercials.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
They filled it.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
They filmed it in Delaware with supporters, but Joe Biden.
At this point, this is the spring of twenty twenty four.
Joe Biden's town hall, which was closed to press, was
so bad that campaign officials determined that it was not
usable for a campaign commercial. So they took ninety minutes,
two hours out of the president's day, they filmed an
entire town hall, and they determined that it was not usable. Now,
(04:02):
some people say this was because Joe Biden was incoherent.
He could not really articulate his thoughts in epithy or
even semi normal way. Some people just said, like, the
lighting was bad.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I just want you to marinate on this for just
a brief moment. I know you already know this because
we talked about it. But the job of the presidency,
the job of the president is unbelievably stressful, and the
obligations are endless and the stakes are enormous. I talked
(04:38):
the other day. Donald Trump put up a long post.
We saw it all the media reported it at all.
Donald Trump got up, had a bunch of things to
do in the morning, and then Donald Trump had to
sit down and he spent two hours, two hours on
the phone with Vladimir Putin, the head of Russia, trying
to negotiate some sort of a friend work for a
(05:01):
peace deal. He then hung up the phone. He had
to get a hold of Zelensky and talk to him
about the peace deal he just negotiated. He then had
to reach out to the head of the EU and
the head of France, and he'said, this is one brief
period of time, in one moment of one day that
Trump had to deal with as president. And that's not
because he's a Republican. That's the job as president. It
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could be you, me, anybody. They put you in that chair.
Your responsibilities, the things you have to deal with are
beyond belief. And Joe Biden was so brain dead. They
created a fake town hall, which is hilarious and amazing
by the way, it's been done before. Though. You hire
(05:44):
a bunch of your supporters, bring in you cut off everybody,
you don't allow the media in, as they said, and
then you get some fake questions that sound real. The
TV cameras recorded, and you look like you're being mister
man of the people, fielding questions from people, answer in questions.
And at the end of that, well, they edit, and
you can't even imagine the magic editors can do. I
(06:07):
didn't really realize this until I ran for Congress two
times myself, and I saw we would go film for
eight nine hours in a day, and from that eight
nine hours of filming, they would produce one thirty second
TV commercial. That's how much editing there is. Cut this out,
cut that, move, this move that they did it with
(06:28):
Joe Biden, and he was still so incoherent they didn't
have a TV commercial when they just scrapped the entire thing.
Four years he didn't do anything. But that, of course
is not the point that PAGs the question, well, who
was doing stuff? Because there was a lot of stuff done,
(06:49):
because not as if nothing got done. Opening up the border,
you had to do that on purpose. Remember remember Donald
Trump secured the border during his first four years. The
border was secure when Joe Biden took over, So opening
it up you have to make a focused effort. Who
did that? Who decided to sign all these ridiculous executive orders?
(07:14):
Who banned the export of natural gas and just horribly
destructive things with no purpose whatsoever. Who found this law
and that law and that justification to bring in more
foreigners and more foreigners and more foreigners by the million.
But somebody was doing something. Who signed all those pardons?
Remember what a story that was at the end of
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Biden's presidency. Every president pardons some people and usually they're
dirt balls, and nobody really cheers. Trump did it, Obama
did it, Bush did it, Clinton did it. They all
do it, and it's always kind of gross, kind of
a gross process. And then Joe Biden does it exponentially more.
Who was doing all that? Well, that's an important question,
isn't it, because we keep referencing communists around Joe Biden.
(07:58):
Ed Martin went on with malk Mark Halperin, even on
Mark Halperin's show. I don't know why I struggle with
Mark's name. He is a great guy. He went on
his show and Ed Martin named some names.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
I had a whistleblower in my office ten days ago,
senior senior Democrat saying, look, it was these three people
that controlled access and they were making money off of it.
The gatekeepers, different characterization of who was using the access.
But the gatekeepers were Clain and Anita Dunn and Bob Bauer,
and those three were really dominant characters in the White House.
(08:30):
Ricketty a little bit, and obviously Jill, But I think
that was the three. I was with this and well
a person and I said, what about Susan Rice, what
about some of these others? And they said, no, this
was These were the ones.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Ron Klain is an obvious one, Joe Biden's chief of staff.
We'll set him aside for the time being. Maybe we'll
come back to him. Anita Done. Maybe that name sounds
familiar to you, Hopefully it does. Glenn Black deserves all
the credit in the world because it was fifteen sixteen
years ago Glenn Beck discovered this lady by the name
(09:11):
of Anita Dunn, who was working for Barack Obama. But
Anita Dunn has some interesting views.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
And then the third lesson and tip actually come from
two of my favorite political philosophers, mal Saytungue and Mother Teresa,
not often coupled with each other, but the two people
that I turned to most in nineteen forty seven, when
(09:41):
mal Say Tongue is being challenged within his own party
on his plan to basically take China over. Tchang Kaishek
and the nationalist Chinese held the cities. They had the army,
they had the air force, they had everything on their side.
He said, how can you win, How can you do this?
(10:02):
How can you do this against all the odds against you?
And malse Tony said, you know, you fight your war
and I'll fight mine.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
She really loves them, admires them. Mao say Dung murdered
fifty million people. Mao say Dung he gathered men, women, children,
and he forced them onto communal farms in China, forced
(10:41):
them to work the fields, but not for themselves. You see,
he worked many of them to death. The old ones
were worked to death. Pregnant women didn't last very long,
neither did the children. Can't work under those conditions for long.
Of course, government can't manage such things, so people begin
to die by the million. Mao then continued to control
(11:05):
more and more and more, and millions and millions and
millions and millions of people died. This is a human
being who was so sadistic that one of the members
of a lifelong friend of his challenged him in really
a fairly benign way after he had killed fifty sixty million.
We don't even know the number fifty sixty million Chinese people.
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Mao remembered that, he remembered being challenged publicly. Never forgot it.
And you see, this friend of Mao's was a diabetic
need a medication. You know what happens to somebody when
they don't get what they need when they're diabetic? Do
you know what happens to the body, How they are ravaged,
tormented before they die. Mao had this person arrested. He
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not only denied him as medication on purpose, he had
video cameras set up in the cell so Mao could
watch over and over and over again as his lifelong
friend died in complete and utter agony, essentially tortured to death.
(12:08):
That's how Mao handled his political opponents. That's the type
of guy Mao was. Now the lady who clearly loves
and admires him, she was at least in part running
the United States of America for four years. Now, let
(12:29):
me ask you again, do those executive orders make more sense?
Speaker 7 (12:34):
Now?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Does the mass importation of rapists and murderers and drug
dealers like we've never seen before in the country. Makes
more sense now, doesn't it. What kind of a person,
what kind of a president would hand out thousands of
pardons to just some of the most vile murderers? Why who?
When the world would want these people back on the streets?
(12:58):
Makes more sense now, doesn't It makes a lot of sense.
And remember when Joe Biden couldn't function anymore, and now
it was public now everybody knew it. There was a
central figure trying to keep him in the race.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
US.
Speaker 8 (13:15):
What do you say to members of the House of
Representative Democrats who are on the phone with reporters saying
that the president needs to step down.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
We're basically saying the president is the only person out
there who's ever beaten Donald Trump, and he will do
it again, you know, And we're all going to work
together on this.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Oh that's a little bit more revealing, now, isn't it.
I have no doubt Anita Dunn wanted him to stay
right where he was so she could continue to put
the United States of America to the torch. How in
the world did we end up with a Supreme Court
justice like Kaitanji Brown Jackson, a radical, insane America hating
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communist nutjob who now sits on the highest court in
the land. I think you know how she got there.
And speaking of the pardons, I talked to Ed Martin
about it last week when he was on.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
We saw something that no one's ever seen. Look, Donald
Trump has done historic stuff, and then people say, we've
never seen a president who tweets or who does this
and that other thing. What Joe Biden. The unprecedented nature
of what he did back in time, blanket pardons for
any crime fourteen years. This is not normal. And he
did it over areas that we see major questions, the
(14:31):
pardons over COVID Blanket pardons over the COVID stuff. You know, again,
at a certain point you say, might be plenary, might
be allowed, but it looks like it's covering.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
Things up right.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
It looks like we've got some conflicts. So again, we
are not supposed to be whimps. I know, Jesse, you
know this. We're not supposed to be you know, you know,
silly about being soft. We should ask questions if you
do stuff that's unprecedented, we should ask questions.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Why would they take such unprecedented steps? Because having communists
who hate America in the Oval Office was unprecedented. That's
why we saw unprecedented things like the seven year old
who has given a piece of construction equipment. What do
with it? What you want? We set communists behind the
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desk in the Oval Office for four years and we
turned them loose, and that's why we still suffer from them.
Somebody better go to jail. All that may have made
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Speaker 8 (16:44):
You cover the Biden presidency aggressively throughout the four years,
and you didn't cover mental acuity hardly at all. I
mean time and time again when issues came up, you
seem to be running cover for the president. Interested well,
I mean, we'll start with the Lord Trump issue that
you referred here.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
It is.
Speaker 8 (17:01):
I think what we see on stage with Joe Biden
Jake is very clearly a cognitive decline.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
That's what I'm referring to. It makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
You are, No, that's so amazing.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
You're trying to.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Tell me that what I was suggesting was I think that.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
You were mocking his stutter. Yeah, I think you were
mocking his stutter.
Speaker 9 (17:20):
And I think you have absolutely no standing to diagnose
somebody's cognitive decline.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
Do you want to apologize to Large Trump?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Now I've already apologized her. I called her months ago.
I'm still laughing about the stutter thing. What a sell
job that was trunting me. Now, Stu he joins us again,
obviously host of the wonderful Stu Does America, which everybody
already watches anyway. I don't know what's more baffling why
(17:48):
Jake Tapper would actually do an interview with Megan Kelly
of all people during his book tour thing, or that
they really tried to sell the Joe Biden stuff as
a stutter. I don't know which one make me laugh more.
But I find the whole thing hysterical.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
It is legitimately hysterical.
Speaker 10 (18:05):
And I man, Megan is just an absolute bulldog.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
In those situations.
Speaker 10 (18:10):
I wouldn't want to be anywhere near that interview that
was Jake Tapper. It was not uncomfortable, and she's just
so good. There's nobody better in that type of moment
than her. She just dissects those situations and she does
not care about the awkwardness. I would have just been like,
all right, well you said it was okay, so.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
I'm gonna move on to another topic. She does not care.
Speaker 10 (18:32):
And she said multiple times in there Jesse that that
they're friends, like that they know each other and have
some sort of level of friendship.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
So this is what she does to her her buddies.
Speaker 10 (18:42):
I literally the day that this interview happened, I got
an email from Megan's producer saying like, hey, can you
come on on this date?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
And I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 10 (18:52):
After listening to that interview, I didn't want to hold
off because if something like this is her off, I
don't think I'm gonna make it through the day.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Hold on, I just checked my schedule. Nope, I'm booked
that day, what day? Every day, every single day, day
all right. On the less hysterical part of this, I
had to give a shout out to Glenn Beck and
you for this old way old callback since she's back
in the news two thousand and nine, Anita done. Oh
(19:22):
here was?
Speaker 6 (19:26):
And then the third lesson and tip actually come from
two of my favorite political philosophers, Mal Saytungue and Mother Teresa,
not often coupled with each other, but the two people
that I turned to most in nineteen forty seven, when
(19:47):
Mal Saytung is being challenged within his own party on
his plan to basically take China over Chang Kai Chek
and the nationalists. Chinese held the cities, they had the army,
they had the air force, they had everything on their side,
and people said, how can you win? How can you
do this? How can you do this against all the
(20:10):
odds against you, and Mousey Tony said, you know, you
fight your war and I'll fight mine.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
Stu.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
It really does explain so much when you just accept
that Joe Biden never ran a thing and that woman did.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Yeah, you're bringing me back, man.
Speaker 10 (20:31):
That's a clip that our own Glenn Beck uncovered back
in the day, and it was a huge story at
the time.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
I'm so glad you went back and found that.
Speaker 10 (20:39):
You know, two things I remember how to need it
done is that clip and the fact that every time
she talks, she's constantly licking her lips, and it used
to drive me freaking nuts, Like every three words she
will lick her lips. You watch that clip, which she
does it constantly. Not the most important part of that clip,
of course, as you are Jesse always on the hunt
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for the communists that are are running things, and you've
found yet another one. And the fact that she was
able to do this, you know, partially under Obama, but
even a much bigger role under Biden, where she seemingly
was making a lot of these decisions, along with a
couple of other names that are in this book. And
you know that we can go through. But I think
(21:21):
you hit on something really important here that between these
two clips Jesse, which is like Jake Tapper is a
story that is related to this.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
He is a story.
Speaker 10 (21:31):
The fact that he did cover this and didn't really
go into it and even was mocking Laura Trump is
a story. And the media failure on this is a story.
I'm concerned that on the right we're making Jake Tapper
the main story here though, and like someone like Anita
Dunn should be the main story. We didn't have a
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president of the United States for multiple years, and the
fact that Jake Tapper didn't say that on a CNN
show enough is a problem. It's not as big a problem, though,
is the fact that we didn't have a president for
two years and people like I need it done running
the government that.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Is like, I think a crime.
Speaker 10 (22:10):
I want to at the very least one an investigation
to find out which crimes were committed and by whom.
I want to know every single text message that was
sent around about this a cover up. You know, the
government is so interested in everybody's signal messages these days.
I'd like to see every single signal message that was
sent about this. These people were in power, they were
(22:30):
manipulating our country, our policy, using our tax dollars outside
of the constitutional system, it seems, and if that happened,
those people need to be held accountable even more than
some CNN host.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
That's a great way to put it. I'm definitely gonna
steal that and use it for my own because it
is a good point. Were focusing on the media people,
and of course, you know, if it's somebody's responsibility to
tell me that a wild animal is ravaging my pantry,
then that person to report it, and if they don't,
it's a big deal. But that's not the wild animal
ravaging my pantry. We had apparently a bunch of goblins
(23:08):
run in the United States of America, and they're not
in some nameless, faceless group people with names, faces and
addresses opened up the border of this country and allowed
rapists to come in and pillage this country like it's
the medieval times and someone better go to jail for.
Speaker 10 (23:23):
It's too Yeah, I think that's the way this is
supposed to work, you know. Being working with Glenn Beck,
we did talk about Nita Done quite a bit back
in the day. Also every ten seconds we talked about
Woodrow Wilson, and you know, Woodrow Wilson's wife an.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Edith, and he is on my brain.
Speaker 10 (23:41):
Edith and Wilson basically ran the country for a while
as the president because he had a stroke and he
was incapacitated. He was taking his hand. She was taking
his hand and putting her hand over it and having
him sign the bills of that she was moving the hand.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
And you think about that situation. First of all, it's.
Speaker 10 (24:00):
Amazing because I pretty sure Joe Biden did even less
than that. At least his hand was touching the pen.
He was using an auto pen, so I don't think
the pen was even touched. But when you go back
and you think about that, this has happened many times
now through our history, we have a situation where this
keeps getting taken out of control.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Woodrow Wilson's favorite book was a book.
Speaker 10 (24:20):
Called Philip Drew Administrator, and it was a book, a
really awful book about how a president would just kind
of come in. He was instead of running everything like
the executive is design, he would hand it off to
all these committees and these experts that would run all
the country for it was best thing for America. That
was his vision of what America was. He wound up
getting it in the Joe Biden administration, where all these
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supposed experts and ideologues, and as you point out, communists
wound up running major parts of the country. Where you
take this guy who ran as a moderate, ran this
blue collar, every day lunchbox Joe and then wound up
running a country far to the left, and even Barack
Obama ran that didn't make any sense unless you plug
in all these very bulls and understand that Sky wasn't
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even making the decisions.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Stu, on your YouTube channel, let's let's talk about something
decent on the On your YouTube channel, you talking about
Trump's policies, and in fact, you have them ranked so far.
Give us your ranking, and what's going to stick, what
can last, and what's going to be erased the next
time we get some nutball Democrat in there.
Speaker 10 (25:25):
Well, I mean that's a huge concern because you know,
as we've seen so far, we've got the big, beautiful
bill supposedly around the corner. We'll see and how beautiful
it is, certainly is going to be big. But none
of this stuff has really been done legislatively yet, right,
so it's all been executive orders. The next Democrat can
reverse almost all of it, and that is a huge problem.
I think we're getting a little too reliant on executive
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orders for.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Long term solutions.
Speaker 10 (25:50):
But yeah, as you point out, we did a show
basically ranking the policies, not based on like my opinions
as to how wonderful they were, but as to how
the American people were reacting to them. You know what,
what's working for him and helping his let's say popularity,
his approval ratings, and what was hurting. And what you
saw at the top was was, I think what you'd
maybe expect the border, his reaction to crime, his his
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national defense, the things that kind of Trump is shown
as when he's showing strength, right people, That's what people
want out of Donald Trump. They believe he's strong on
these things where certainly the left is weak. Down at
the bottom were some of the economic policies like tariffs
and worries about inflation, even though we haven't really seen
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those come into to defray yet. But but what I
think was interesting about that exercise was kind of acting
like a consultant, right, Donald Trump believes these things He's
going to do tariffs. I'm not a big tariff guy.
He's going to do tariffs anyway, whether whether I like
it or not. But the question is what do you
emphasize to the American people? What do you focus on
When people are like, oh, he shouldn't talk about the
(26:56):
border because they're saying he's deporting these Venezuelans to prison
in El Salvador, that's not hurting him at all, Like
that's actually helping him when he's talking about those types
of issues people like when gang members aren't here anymore.
It's a crazy formula of a way to govern when
it comes to their prices going up, though, that is
I think a real risk to the rest of his
(27:17):
agenda if that winds up coming through.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
True.
Speaker 10 (27:20):
One of the reasons he's in office is because people
believe in his economic policies. He believes in tariffs, yes,
but he also believes in text cuts, and he believes
in regulation cuts, and if he focuses on that part
of his economic agenda, it probably helps his entire presidency.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Stu, my brother as always appreciates you come back anytime.
All right, Andrew Cuomo obviously belongs in prison. I have
made the argument before that he presided he actually caused
the death of more of his citizens than any governor
in the history of the United States of America. Is
he going to jail? Talk about that? Before we do that,
(27:58):
let me talk to you about feeling full of pet energy,
feeling good all the time. Doesn't everybody want that? I
want it, You want it. Why don't you get some
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(29:05):
my thoughts on COVID, the lockdowns, the violation of your
rights which took place over and over and over again
in this country. You know my stance on what should
be done with the politicians, the bureaucrats, the policymakers who
took away your freedom. I'm not shy about the fact
that I believe people should go to prison. I do.
(29:29):
I believe people should go to prison, and not some
Lackey governors should go to prison. And there's nobody, nobody
who should go to prison more than Andrew Cuomo. Andrew
Cuomo in New York, he actually ordered that COVID positive
people be put into nursing homes. Of course, the only
people who were really at any significant threat of COVID
(29:50):
were old people with pre existing conditions. And look, all
we have our estimates. Fifty thousand New Yorkers are dead
because of Andrew Cuomo. Andrew Cuomo, as governor in New York,
is responsible for killing more of his citizens than any
governor in the history of the United States of America.
And part of the reason I scream and yell and
I get my blood pressure through the roof about the
(30:11):
need for these people to go to prison is not
only are they not sorry about it, they all almost
universally they brag about what they did. Andrew Cuomo is
running now to be mayor of New York City. This
is his ad.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
It was the greatest health crisis in our history, and
when New Yorkers were desperate for leadership, Andrew Cuomo delivered.
He didn't just provide information in those daily COVID briefings.
He acted, building emergency hospitals and deploying first responders, and
he provided hope that we pulled through this together.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
We did.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Now New Yorkers face a city unaffordable and streets that
don't feel safe, and in a crisis, you want someone
who's delivered for us before, paid for by Cuomo for myc.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
I'm just trying to think how I would feel if
that was one of my parents who died because of him,
and you turn on the television one day and you
see that. Just think about that. By the way, he's
leading in the polls, probably going to win. He is
going to kill fifty thousand people as governor, take a
(31:22):
couple of years off, and then he's going to take
over a position then honestly it may be more powerful
than Governor of New York Mayor of New York City,
And man, my heartbreaks for the people who lost somebody.
And this is why I will always call for a reckoning.
(31:42):
I will always call for accountability, arrests, public trials. What
happened to you. I just want to remind you what
happened to you. What happened to the United States of
America during COVID was deeply evil. It was unjust, it
was unlawful, and the people who did it are so
much worse than everything they're getting. Right now, I'm going
(32:02):
to move off this before I lose my mind and
start screaming and yelling, because I'm not in a screaming
and yelling mood. So we're just gonna move on. Before
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(32:24):
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(32:46):
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The Supreme Court is an odd duck for those of
us who aren't legal experts, like Bill Jacobson is. They're
always hearing things. They're about to make a decision. We've
made a decision, but you don't know the decision yet.
There's a lot going on with the Supreme Court and
a lot of it matters, and not all of it
gets headlines. So I thought maybe we should talk to
Bill Jacobson about what exactly is going on and why
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we should care. Joining me now, founder of Legal insurrection,
which I've always loved. Professor at Cornell, William Jacobson Bill,
what's going on at the Supreme Court that I should
know that I don't know about.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
Well.
Speaker 11 (34:03):
I think there's a little bit of inertia, which is
not good. They really have not done the job they
need to crack down on some district courts that have
gone off track, that have exceeded their powers under separation
of powers and have really involved themselves too heavily in
running the executive branch. So I think that's the main problem.
(34:25):
What's going on at the Supreme Court is not enough
is going on. They have heard some arguments in some
cases and issued some stays, but the massive onslaught and
your viewers probably know, but they may not know the
magnitude of it. There are at least three hundred cases
that have been filed against the Trump administration. That's the
(34:47):
last count I saw it. It's probably higher. I think
it's probably closer to four hundred. And this is part
of a coordinated effort to disrupt the executive branch, disrupt
Trump two point zero, and unfortunately the Supreme Court has
not gotten a handle on it.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Okay, so you say this as a coordinated effort. Very
clearly the Democrats are trying to flood the zone. So
what should the Supreme Court have already done or be
doing as we speak, that they're not doing well.
Speaker 11 (35:18):
The first thing they need to do is send a
message to the district court judges. I mean Chief Justice
Roberts has not hesitated to criticize, maybe not by name,
but everybody knows who he's talking about, Criticize Trump, criticize
Trump's supporters who've complained about what's happening in the courts.
So he doesn't hesitate to lash out. But why hasn't
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he gotten on TV like he's done when he criticizes,
you know, Trump administration and said the district court judges
need to get in line. They need to pay attention
to things like their own jurisdiction. They need to pay
attention to venue if you're even in the right course court.
They need to pay attention to the privilege that the
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executive branch has to run the executive branch. I mean,
he could use the bully pulpit to get the district
court judges in line, much like he's tried to use
the bully pulpit to get the Trump administration in line.
So that's one thing they could do. The second thing
they could do is be more receptive to stay applications
by the government. A stay application is where a district
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court judge does something that administration believes is improper and
then you have to go to the appeals court, and
then you have to go to the Supreme Court. And
they have not been quick to rule on those. They
have done a little bit, but they should have done
more earlier. So the Supreme Court needs to send messages
to district court judges that when you're usurping the power
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of the executive branch, when you're disrespecting our constitutional structure,
when you are exceeding your own jurisdiction and authority, that
the Supreme Court is going to step in very quickly.
Speaker 7 (36:57):
Now.
Speaker 11 (36:57):
Judge Justice Roberts made a statement fairly early on in
this administration that people need to let the process work,
They need to let the appeals process work. And the
problem with that is district court judges, mostly in five
judicial districts by the way, have issued what's quoted temporary
restraining orders, which are very hard to appeal. They're generally
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not appealable, and so what that does is that creates
anywhere from two to four, two to six weeks of
disruption of the executive branch before they can even get
something before either an appeals court or the Supreme Court.
And so this is a situation which in many ways
is out of control. Getting back to what the organized
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effort to flood the zone, as you say, New York
Times of all places, reported in late November of last
year that Democrats had organized an army of eight hundred
lawyers with a huge bank of money to fund it,
forty organizations to flood the administration. They've decided that they
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lost the election and they're therefore going to use the
court system to try to prevent the president from being president.
And so this is all coordinated. The Supreme Court knows
it's coordinated. They can read the New York Times, just
like I can read the New York Times. I don't
frequently read it, but I did read that, and they
know what's going on, and they should. They need to
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get a handle on it because at the end of
last year, trust in the judiciary was at the lowest
point in history. And you know, the judiciary really has
the trust of people and its reputation and respect for
the system. They don't have an army, they don't have,
you know, the ability to enforce anything other than people
obeying them, and they really need to consider John Roberts
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needs to consider whether the inaction from the Supreme Court
is so destroying the legitimacy of the court system that
he's trying to presume the court and try to keep
it out of politics. He's actually putting it into politics.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
So, Bill, I'm gonna ask you something that I probably
shouldn't even ask because we're venturing outside of the realm
of what is legal and what is the law, what
is precedent and things like that. But why why John
Roberts is not a fool. As much as I may
dislike the man, Like you said, he reads the New
York Times, I promise he wakes up in the morning
like the rest of us do, and he looks at
his phone and he reads stories. It's a cute. He
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knows what you just said is true. On the short term,
they may feel high and mighty, but in the long term,
he's destroying the legitimacy of the court. And we're gonna
go to a dark place as a country because the
next Republican nominee is gonna run on arresting Supreme Court
justices and he's gonna win the nomination. So why can't
he see it?
Speaker 11 (39:48):
I don't know, but that's really been his history that
you can go back, probably further than the Obamacare ruling.
But let's start at the Obamacare ruling. I think it
was twenty twelve where reports were that he flipped his
vote because of the pressure from the Democrats. Barack Obama
went public with saying that the legitimacy of the Court
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will be destroyed if he strikes down Obamacare, and reports
were that Roberts shifted because he didn't want to put
the Court in a position that it was running up
against a major Democrat president popular and so that has
kind of been his role, is that he thinks by
doing nothing, he keeps the Court out of it. I
(40:33):
can't explain why he doesn't see what's going on, but
it's pretty clear he doesn't see the bigger picture here.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
All right, let's focus on something decent. DEI are we
gonna get a win there?
Speaker 11 (40:47):
We're winning, okay, but it's going to be a long
term effort. The one thing I always try to emphasize
to people is that DEI. The racialization of everything. Mostly
we talk about it in terms of education, but it's
in companies now, it's in government now. But the racialization
of everything is so deeply embedded in the culture and
(41:08):
so supported by a bureaucracy that's embedded in companies, usually
the HR Department, It's embedded in universities almost everywhere, that
it's not going to go away just because Trump signs
some executive orders. His executive orders have been extremely important
and extremely impactful. He has seriously disrupted billions of dollars
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flowing not just to the bureaucracy that supports DEI, but
to the consultant class that supports DEI. I don't think
we really realized, and I've been working in this area
for a decade, I don't think I fully realized how
much of the DEI industry was funded by the federal government,
by the Department of Education, by USAID by other agencies.
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And a lot of that is being termed dominated, a
lot of it will not be renewed, and that's hugely impactful,
and so at many levels, what the Trump administration has
done is putting us on the path to victory against DEI.
But it's not a path that's going to be a
year or two years. I'm not even sure victory can
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be achieved in one Trump term. Now, whether there's a
third Trump term saying that jokingly, of course, or whether
it's vance or whether whoever it happens to be. If
you put back to back four year terms and they
keep up the fight against DEI and they cut off
the funding and they eliminate the job market within government
(42:38):
for these sort of careers, I think it will have
a profound impact. But it's not Nobody should think that
it's over. And just because there have been some early
victories that they're going to win. As somebody who works
in higher ed at Cornell Cornell Law School, I can
tell you the DEI culture is deeply embedded everywhere in
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the university and it is the one thing they will
never give up if they have any choice. And so
it's going to be a long slog, but I think
the Trump administration is on the right track.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
See we ended up on a positive note, everybody. Bill,
as always, I appreciate you very much, Thank you, sir.
All right, speaking of all this race communism stuff, Trump
Trump hosted the Head of South Africa President of South
Africa today in the Oval office, and man, it did
not go the way the South African dude thought it
(43:36):
was going to go. We'll play it next. All right,
it's time to lighten the mood. Trump invited the President
of South Africa in and then abused him, and it
was hilarious.
Speaker 12 (43:54):
I would say, if that was Afrikana pharmagenocide, I can
bet you these three gentlemen would not be here, including
my Minister of Agriculture.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
He would not be with me.
Speaker 9 (44:07):
Excuse me, turn the lights down, turn the lights down
and just put this on.
Speaker 7 (44:12):
It's right behind you. Now, this is very bad.
Speaker 9 (44:18):
These are These are burial sides right here, burial sites.
Speaker 7 (44:25):
Over a thousand of white farmers.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Have they told you where that is, mister president? I mean,
you know, I'd like to know where that is.
Speaker 12 (44:35):
Of course, this I've never seen, okay, I mean it's
in South Africa.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
It would being a guitari jet used.
Speaker 7 (44:47):
As the what are you talking about? So we know
what you're talking about this spot, you know, you to
get out of here.
Speaker 9 (44:55):
What does this have to do with the guitar jet
they're giving the United States have for us a jet?
Speaker 7 (45:00):
Okay?
Speaker 9 (45:01):
And it's a great thing. We're talking about a lot
of other things. It's NBC trying to get off the
subject of what you just saw.
Speaker 7 (45:08):
You are a real you know, you're a terrible report
number one. You don't have what it takes to be reported.
You're not smart enough.
Speaker 9 (45:15):
But for you to go into a subject about a
jet that was given to.
Speaker 7 (45:19):
The United States Air Force, which is a very nice thing.
Speaker 9 (45:22):
They also gave five point one trillion dollars worth of
investment in addition to the jet.
Speaker 7 (45:29):
Go back. You're to go back to.
Speaker 9 (45:30):
Your studio at NBC because Brian Roberts and the people
that run that place, they are to be investigated. They
are so terrible the way you run that network, and
you're a disgrace. No more questions from you.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Go ahead, all right, I'll see you tomorrow.
Who was actually running the White House will give you
a name to think about. Tonight, we have more things
happening at the Supreme Court. Is Andrew Cuomo going to jail?
All that and more coming up on our mind. You know,
(00:22):
one of the greatest moments of my life, this is
going to come to Joe Biden and his disastrous Communist
presidency and the cover up and everything else. But you know,
one of the greatest moments of my life. My dad
was in construction. You know, I come from a construction family.
His dad did construction. That's what I did. And one time,
(00:43):
one time only when I was a kid, he took
me on one of his work trips. He had to
go to a caterpillar you know, the big the big
construction equipment you see all over the place, all the
yellow stuff that's caterpillar. We had to go to Peoria, Illinois.
They had a big caterpillar factory there look at a
bunch of equipment. I think I was six or seven
at the time, and they had this big arena, almost
(01:04):
like a basketball arena that they filled in with a
bunch of dirt and they had all the equipment out
there and you could drive it move it around, and
the guys were awesome. I was the only kid there,
so me had a bunch of rough, tough construction guys
and they let me run one of the machines. They
put me in it, turned it on, and here I am.
I can't hurt anything, really because I'm in the middle
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of this big dirt thing. But all this power is mine.
I can do whatever I want with it. It was Look,
I was six or seven. This is almost forty years ago.
I still remember it like it was yesterday. That's how
great this moment was in my life. That's essentially what
happened to the United States of America during Joe Biden's presidency.
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Only it wasn't a seven year old child who got
unbelievable amounts of power and could do whatever he wanted
with it. It was America hating communists. You see, we
are so differing now. There's a reason we're still talking
about this. We are suffering now and we will continue
to suffer for I don't know how long the disaster
(02:08):
of Joe Biden's presidency, if you just think about all
the illegals they brought in, may very well be on
a long enough timeline. A mortal wound from which the
United States of America cannot recover. But why was it
so bad? How could you destroy that much in four years?
(02:29):
It's almost as if it's almost as if there was
a focused effort to destroy We're not talking about some
normal Democrat doing some Democrat policies and oh whoopseie that
didn't work out. It's almost as if there was a
focused effort by people who hate the country to burn
down as much of it as they could with the
(02:50):
time they had. And that's exactly what happened. You see,
we are now treated to the latest story. This story
is well, I've been doing politics for about twenty years now.
I didn't really get into politics till I got out
of the Marine Corps. But since then, because it's my nature,
I've obsessed over it. I do what you do. I read,
(03:10):
I listen, I watch. I've just obsessed over history and
politics and things. I've never even heard of something like
this before.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
And Alex, the fact of the fake town hall is
not actually the worst part of the story that you
report in the book.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yes, other campaigns have used fake town halls. Now, I
would say those town halls usually are in addition to
real town halls Joe Biden was doing neither. This fake
town hall was in order to film it so they
can make it into campaign commercials.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
They filled it.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
They filmed it in Delaware with supporters, but Joe Biden.
At this point, this is the spring of twenty twenty four.
Joe Biden's town hall, which was closed to press, was
so bad that campaign officials determined that it was not
usable for a campaign commercial. So they took ninety minutes,
two hours out of the president's day, they filmed an
entire town hall, and they determined that it was not usable. Now,
(04:02):
some people say this was because Joe Biden was incoherent.
He could not really articulate his thoughts in epithy or
even semi normal way. Some people just said, like, the
lighting was bad.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I just want you to marinate on this for just
a brief moment. I know you already know this because
we talked about it. But the job of the presidency,
the job of the president is unbelievably stressful, and the
obligations are endless and the stakes are enormous. I talked
(04:38):
the other day. Donald Trump put up a long post.
We saw it all the media reported it at all.
Donald Trump got up, had a bunch of things to
do in the morning, and then Donald Trump had to
sit down and he spent two hours, two hours on
the phone with Vladimir Putin, the head of Russia, trying
to negotiate some sort of a friend work for a
(05:01):
peace deal. He then hung up the phone. He had
to get a hold of Zelensky and talk to him
about the peace deal he just negotiated. He then had
to reach out to the head of the EU and
the head of France, and he'said, this is one brief
period of time, in one moment of one day that
Trump had to deal with as president. And that's not
because he's a Republican. That's the job as president. It
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could be you, me, anybody. They put you in that chair.
Your responsibilities, the things you have to deal with are
beyond belief. And Joe Biden was so brain dead. They
created a fake town hall, which is hilarious and amazing
by the way, it's been done before. Though. You hire
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a bunch of your supporters, bring in you cut off everybody,
you don't allow the media in, as they said, and
then you get some fake questions that sound real. The
TV cameras recorded, and you look like you're being mister
man of the people, fielding questions from people, answer in questions.
And at the end of that, well, they edit, and
you can't even imagine the magic editors can do. I
(06:07):
didn't really realize this until I ran for Congress two
times myself, and I saw we would go film for
eight nine hours in a day, and from that eight
nine hours of filming, they would produce one thirty second
TV commercial. That's how much editing there is. Cut this out,
cut that, move, this move that they did it with
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Joe Biden, and he was still so incoherent they didn't
have a TV commercial when they just scrapped the entire thing.
Four years he didn't do anything. But that, of course
is not the point that PAGs the question, well, who
was doing stuff? Because there was a lot of stuff done,
(06:49):
because not as if nothing got done. Opening up the border,
you had to do that on purpose. Remember remember Donald
Trump secured the border during his first four years. The
border was secure when Joe Biden took over, So opening
it up you have to make a focused effort. Who
did that? Who decided to sign all these ridiculous executive orders?
(07:14):
Who banned the export of natural gas and just horribly
destructive things with no purpose whatsoever. Who found this law
and that law and that justification to bring in more
foreigners and more foreigners and more foreigners by the million.
But somebody was doing something. Who signed all those pardons?
Remember what a story that was at the end of
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Biden's presidency. Every president pardons some people and usually they're
dirt balls, and nobody really cheers. Trump did it, Obama
did it, Bush did it, Clinton did it. They all
do it, and it's always kind of gross, kind of
a gross process. And then Joe Biden does it exponentially more.
Who was doing all that? Well, that's an important question,
isn't it, because we keep referencing communists around Joe Biden.
(07:58):
Ed Martin went on with malk Mark Halperin, even on
Mark Halperin's show. I don't know why I struggle with
Mark's name. He is a great guy. He went on
his show and Ed Martin named some names.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
I had a whistleblower in my office ten days ago,
senior senior Democrat saying, look, it was these three people
that controlled access and they were making money off of it.
The gatekeepers, different characterization of who was using the access.
But the gatekeepers were Clain and Anita Dunn and Bob Bauer,
and those three were really dominant characters in the White House.
(08:30):
Ricketty a little bit, and obviously Jill, But I think
that was the three. I was with this and well
a person and I said, what about Susan Rice, what
about some of these others? And they said, no, this
was These were the ones.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Ron Klain is an obvious one, Joe Biden's chief of staff.
We'll set him aside for the time being. Maybe we'll
come back to him. Anita Done. Maybe that name sounds
familiar to you, Hopefully it does. Glenn Black deserves all
the credit in the world because it was fifteen sixteen
years ago Glenn Beck discovered this lady by the name
(09:11):
of Anita Dunn, who was working for Barack Obama. But
Anita Dunn has some interesting views.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
And then the third lesson and tip actually come from
two of my favorite political philosophers, mal Saytungue and Mother Teresa,
not often coupled with each other, but the two people
that I turned to most in nineteen forty seven, when
(09:41):
mal Say Tongue is being challenged within his own party
on his plan to basically take China over. Tchang Kaishek
and the nationalist Chinese held the cities. They had the army,
they had the air force, they had everything on their side.
He said, how can you win, How can you do this?
(10:02):
How can you do this against all the odds against you?
And malse Tony said, you know, you fight your war
and I'll fight mine.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
She really loves them, admires them. Mao say Dung murdered
fifty million people. Mao say Dung he gathered men, women, children,
and he forced them onto communal farms in China, forced
(10:41):
them to work the fields, but not for themselves. You see,
he worked many of them to death. The old ones
were worked to death. Pregnant women didn't last very long,
neither did the children. Can't work under those conditions for long.
Of course, government can't manage such things, so people begin
to die by the million. Mao then continued to control
(11:05):
more and more and more, and millions and millions and
millions and millions of people died. This is a human
being who was so sadistic that one of the members
of a lifelong friend of his challenged him in really
a fairly benign way after he had killed fifty sixty million.
We don't even know the number fifty sixty million Chinese people.
(11:27):
Mao remembered that, he remembered being challenged publicly. Never forgot it.
And you see, this friend of Mao's was a diabetic
need a medication. You know what happens to somebody when
they don't get what they need when they're diabetic? Do
you know what happens to the body, How they are ravaged,
tormented before they die. Mao had this person arrested. He
(11:48):
not only denied him as medication on purpose, he had
video cameras set up in the cell so Mao could
watch over and over and over again as his lifelong
friend died in complete and utter agony, essentially tortured to death.
(12:08):
That's how Mao handled his political opponents. That's the type
of guy Mao was. Now the lady who clearly loves
and admires him, she was at least in part running
the United States of America for four years. Now, let
(12:29):
me ask you again, do those executive orders make more sense?
Speaker 7 (12:34):
Now?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Does the mass importation of rapists and murderers and drug
dealers like we've never seen before in the country. Makes
more sense now, doesn't it. What kind of a person,
what kind of a president would hand out thousands of
pardons to just some of the most vile murderers? Why who?
When the world would want these people back on the streets?
(12:58):
Makes more sense now, doesn't It makes a lot of sense.
And remember when Joe Biden couldn't function anymore, and now
it was public now everybody knew it. There was a
central figure trying to keep him in the race.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
US.
Speaker 8 (13:15):
What do you say to members of the House of
Representative Democrats who are on the phone with reporters saying
that the president needs to step down.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
We're basically saying the president is the only person out
there who's ever beaten Donald Trump, and he will do
it again, you know, And we're all going to work
together on this.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Oh that's a little bit more revealing, now, isn't it.
I have no doubt Anita Dunn wanted him to stay
right where he was so she could continue to put
the United States of America to the torch. How in
the world did we end up with a Supreme Court
justice like Kaitanji Brown Jackson, a radical, insane America hating
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communist nutjob who now sits on the highest court in
the land. I think you know how she got there.
And speaking of the pardons, I talked to Ed Martin
about it last week when he was on.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
We saw something that no one's ever seen. Look, Donald
Trump has done historic stuff, and then people say, we've
never seen a president who tweets or who does this
and that other thing. What Joe Biden. The unprecedented nature
of what he did back in time, blanket pardons for
any crime fourteen years. This is not normal. And he
did it over areas that we see major questions, the
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pardons over COVID Blanket pardons over the COVID stuff. You know, again,
at a certain point you say, might be plenary, might
be allowed, but it looks like it's covering.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
Things up right.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
It looks like we've got some conflicts. So again, we
are not supposed to be whimps. I know, Jesse, you
know this. We're not supposed to be you know, you know,
silly about being soft. We should ask questions if you
do stuff that's unprecedented, we should ask questions.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Why would they take such unprecedented steps? Because having communists
who hate America in the Oval Office was unprecedented. That's
why we saw unprecedented things like the seven year old
who has given a piece of construction equipment. What do
with it? What you want? We set communists behind the
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desk in the Oval Office for four years and we
turned them loose, and that's why we still suffer from them.
Somebody better go to jail. All that may have made
you uncomfortable, but I am right. You know, my Watson
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Speaker 8 (16:44):
You cover the Biden presidency aggressively throughout the four years,
and you didn't cover mental acuity hardly at all. I
mean time and time again when issues came up, you
seem to be running cover for the president. Interested well,
I mean, we'll start with the Lord Trump issue that
you referred here.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
It is.
Speaker 8 (17:01):
I think what we see on stage with Joe Biden
Jake is very clearly a cognitive decline.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
That's what I'm referring to. It makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
You are, No, that's so amazing.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
You're trying to.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Tell me that what I was suggesting was I think that.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
You were mocking his stutter. Yeah, I think you were
mocking his stutter.
Speaker 9 (17:20):
And I think you have absolutely no standing to diagnose
somebody's cognitive decline.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
Do you want to apologize to Large Trump?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Now I've already apologized her. I called her months ago.
I'm still laughing about the stutter thing. What a sell
job that was trunting me. Now, Stu he joins us again,
obviously host of the wonderful Stu Does America, which everybody
already watches anyway. I don't know what's more baffling why
(17:48):
Jake Tapper would actually do an interview with Megan Kelly
of all people during his book tour thing, or that
they really tried to sell the Joe Biden stuff as
a stutter. I don't know which one make me laugh more.
But I find the whole thing hysterical.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
It is legitimately hysterical.
Speaker 10 (18:05):
And I man, Megan is just an absolute bulldog.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
In those situations.
Speaker 10 (18:10):
I wouldn't want to be anywhere near that interview that
was Jake Tapper. It was not uncomfortable, and she's just
so good. There's nobody better in that type of moment
than her. She just dissects those situations and she does
not care about the awkwardness. I would have just been like,
all right, well you said it was okay, so.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
I'm gonna move on to another topic. She does not care.
Speaker 10 (18:32):
And she said multiple times in there Jesse that that
they're friends, like that they know each other and have
some sort of level of friendship.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
So this is what she does to her her buddies.
Speaker 10 (18:42):
I literally the day that this interview happened, I got
an email from Megan's producer saying like, hey, can you
come on on this date?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
And I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 10 (18:52):
After listening to that interview, I didn't want to hold
off because if something like this is her off, I
don't think I'm gonna make it through the day.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Hold on, I just checked my schedule. Nope, I'm booked
that day, what day? Every day, every single day, day
all right. On the less hysterical part of this, I
had to give a shout out to Glenn Beck and
you for this old way old callback since she's back
in the news two thousand and nine, Anita done. Oh
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here was?
Speaker 6 (19:26):
And then the third lesson and tip actually come from
two of my favorite political philosophers, Mal Saytungue and Mother Teresa,
not often coupled with each other, but the two people
that I turned to most in nineteen forty seven, when
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Mal Saytung is being challenged within his own party on
his plan to basically take China over Chang Kai Chek
and the nationalists. Chinese held the cities, they had the army,
they had the air force, they had everything on their side,
and people said, how can you win? How can you
do this? How can you do this against all the
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odds against you, and Mousey Tony said, you know, you
fight your war and I'll fight mine.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
Stu.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
It really does explain so much when you just accept
that Joe Biden never ran a thing and that woman did.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Yeah, you're bringing me back, man.
Speaker 10 (20:31):
That's a clip that our own Glenn Beck uncovered back
in the day, and it was a huge story at
the time.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
I'm so glad you went back and found that.
Speaker 10 (20:39):
You know, two things I remember how to need it
done is that clip and the fact that every time
she talks, she's constantly licking her lips, and it used
to drive me freaking nuts, Like every three words she
will lick her lips. You watch that clip, which she
does it constantly. Not the most important part of that clip,
of course, as you are Jesse always on the hunt
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for the communists that are are running things, and you've
found yet another one. And the fact that she was
able to do this, you know, partially under Obama, but
even a much bigger role under Biden, where she seemingly
was making a lot of these decisions, along with a
couple of other names that are in this book. And
you know that we can go through. But I think
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you hit on something really important here that between these
two clips Jesse, which is like Jake Tapper is a
story that is related to this.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
He is a story.
Speaker 10 (21:31):
The fact that he did cover this and didn't really
go into it and even was mocking Laura Trump is
a story. And the media failure on this is a story.
I'm concerned that on the right we're making Jake Tapper
the main story here though, and like someone like Anita
Dunn should be the main story. We didn't have a
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president of the United States for multiple years, and the
fact that Jake Tapper didn't say that on a CNN
show enough is a problem. It's not as big a problem, though,
is the fact that we didn't have a president for
two years and people like I need it done running
the government that.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Is like, I think a crime.
Speaker 10 (22:10):
I want to at the very least one an investigation
to find out which crimes were committed and by whom.
I want to know every single text message that was
sent around about this a cover up. You know, the
government is so interested in everybody's signal messages these days.
I'd like to see every single signal message that was
sent about this. These people were in power, they were
(22:30):
manipulating our country, our policy, using our tax dollars outside
of the constitutional system, it seems, and if that happened,
those people need to be held accountable even more than
some CNN host.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
That's a great way to put it. I'm definitely gonna
steal that and use it for my own because it
is a good point. Were focusing on the media people,
and of course, you know, if it's somebody's responsibility to
tell me that a wild animal is ravaging my pantry,
then that person to report it, and if they don't,
it's a big deal. But that's not the wild animal
ravaging my pantry. We had apparently a bunch of goblins
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run in the United States of America, and they're not
in some nameless, faceless group people with names, faces and
addresses opened up the border of this country and allowed
rapists to come in and pillage this country like it's
the medieval times and someone better go to jail for.
Speaker 10 (23:23):
It's too Yeah, I think that's the way this is
supposed to work, you know. Being working with Glenn Beck,
we did talk about Nita Done quite a bit back
in the day. Also every ten seconds we talked about
Woodrow Wilson, and you know, Woodrow Wilson's wife an.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Edith, and he is on my brain.
Speaker 10 (23:41):
Edith and Wilson basically ran the country for a while
as the president because he had a stroke and he
was incapacitated. He was taking his hand. She was taking
his hand and putting her hand over it and having
him sign the bills of that she was moving the hand.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
And you think about that situation. First of all, it's.
Speaker 10 (24:00):
Amazing because I pretty sure Joe Biden did even less
than that. At least his hand was touching the pen.
He was using an auto pen, so I don't think
the pen was even touched. But when you go back
and you think about that, this has happened many times
now through our history, we have a situation where this
keeps getting taken out of control.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Woodrow Wilson's favorite book was a book.
Speaker 10 (24:20):
Called Philip Drew Administrator, and it was a book, a
really awful book about how a president would just kind
of come in. He was instead of running everything like
the executive is design, he would hand it off to
all these committees and these experts that would run all
the country for it was best thing for America. That
was his vision of what America was. He wound up
getting it in the Joe Biden administration, where all these
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supposed experts and ideologues, and as you point out, communists
wound up running major parts of the country. Where you
take this guy who ran as a moderate, ran this
blue collar, every day lunchbox Joe and then wound up
running a country far to the left, and even Barack
Obama ran that didn't make any sense unless you plug
in all these very bulls and understand that Sky wasn't
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even making the decisions.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Stu, on your YouTube channel, let's let's talk about something
decent on the On your YouTube channel, you talking about
Trump's policies, and in fact, you have them ranked so far.
Give us your ranking, and what's going to stick, what
can last, and what's going to be erased the next
time we get some nutball Democrat in there.
Speaker 10 (25:25):
Well, I mean that's a huge concern because you know,
as we've seen so far, we've got the big, beautiful
bill supposedly around the corner. We'll see and how beautiful
it is, certainly is going to be big. But none
of this stuff has really been done legislatively yet, right,
so it's all been executive orders. The next Democrat can
reverse almost all of it, and that is a huge problem.
I think we're getting a little too reliant on executive
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orders for.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Long term solutions.
Speaker 10 (25:50):
But yeah, as you point out, we did a show
basically ranking the policies, not based on like my opinions
as to how wonderful they were, but as to how
the American people were reacting to them. You know what,
what's working for him and helping his let's say popularity,
his approval ratings, and what was hurting. And what you
saw at the top was was, I think what you'd
maybe expect the border, his reaction to crime, his his
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national defense, the things that kind of Trump is shown
as when he's showing strength, right people, That's what people
want out of Donald Trump. They believe he's strong on
these things where certainly the left is weak. Down at
the bottom were some of the economic policies like tariffs
and worries about inflation, even though we haven't really seen
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those come into to defray yet. But but what I
think was interesting about that exercise was kind of acting
like a consultant, right, Donald Trump believes these things He's
going to do tariffs. I'm not a big tariff guy.
He's going to do tariffs anyway, whether whether I like
it or not. But the question is what do you
emphasize to the American people? What do you focus on
When people are like, oh, he shouldn't talk about the
(26:56):
border because they're saying he's deporting these Venezuelans to prison
in El Salvador, that's not hurting him at all, Like
that's actually helping him when he's talking about those types
of issues people like when gang members aren't here anymore.
It's a crazy formula of a way to govern when
it comes to their prices going up, though, that is
I think a real risk to the rest of his
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agenda if that winds up coming through.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
True.
Speaker 10 (27:20):
One of the reasons he's in office is because people
believe in his economic policies. He believes in tariffs, yes,
but he also believes in text cuts, and he believes
in regulation cuts, and if he focuses on that part
of his economic agenda, it probably helps his entire presidency.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Stu, my brother as always appreciates you come back anytime.
All right, Andrew Cuomo obviously belongs in prison. I have
made the argument before that he presided he actually caused
the death of more of his citizens than any governor
in the history of the United States of America. Is
he going to jail? Talk about that? Before we do that,
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my thoughts on COVID, the lockdowns, the violation of your
rights which took place over and over and over again
in this country. You know my stance on what should
be done with the politicians, the bureaucrats, the policymakers who
took away your freedom. I'm not shy about the fact
that I believe people should go to prison. I do.
(29:29):
I believe people should go to prison, and not some
Lackey governors should go to prison. And there's nobody, nobody
who should go to prison more than Andrew Cuomo. Andrew
Cuomo in New York, he actually ordered that COVID positive
people be put into nursing homes. Of course, the only
people who were really at any significant threat of COVID
(29:50):
were old people with pre existing conditions. And look, all
we have our estimates. Fifty thousand New Yorkers are dead
because of Andrew Cuomo. Andrew Cuomo, as governor in New York,
is responsible for killing more of his citizens than any
governor in the history of the United States of America.
And part of the reason I scream and yell and
I get my blood pressure through the roof about the
(30:11):
need for these people to go to prison is not
only are they not sorry about it, they all almost
universally they brag about what they did. Andrew Cuomo is
running now to be mayor of New York City. This
is his ad.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
It was the greatest health crisis in our history, and
when New Yorkers were desperate for leadership, Andrew Cuomo delivered.
He didn't just provide information in those daily COVID briefings.
He acted, building emergency hospitals and deploying first responders, and
he provided hope that we pulled through this together.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
We did.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Now New Yorkers face a city unaffordable and streets that
don't feel safe, and in a crisis, you want someone
who's delivered for us before, paid for by Cuomo for myc.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
I'm just trying to think how I would feel if
that was one of my parents who died because of him,
and you turn on the television one day and you
see that. Just think about that. By the way, he's
leading in the polls, probably going to win. He is
going to kill fifty thousand people as governor, take a
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couple of years off, and then he's going to take
over a position then honestly it may be more powerful
than Governor of New York Mayor of New York City,
And man, my heartbreaks for the people who lost somebody.
And this is why I will always call for a reckoning.
(31:42):
I will always call for accountability, arrests, public trials. What
happened to you. I just want to remind you what
happened to you. What happened to the United States of
America during COVID was deeply evil. It was unjust, it
was unlawful, and the people who did it are so
much worse than everything they're getting. Right now, I'm going
(32:02):
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The Supreme Court is an odd duck for those of
us who aren't legal experts, like Bill Jacobson is. They're
always hearing things. They're about to make a decision. We've
made a decision, but you don't know the decision yet.
There's a lot going on with the Supreme Court and
a lot of it matters, and not all of it
gets headlines. So I thought maybe we should talk to
Bill Jacobson about what exactly is going on and why
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we should care. Joining me now, founder of Legal insurrection,
which I've always loved. Professor at Cornell, William Jacobson Bill,
what's going on at the Supreme Court that I should
know that I don't know about.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
Well.
Speaker 11 (34:03):
I think there's a little bit of inertia, which is
not good. They really have not done the job they
need to crack down on some district courts that have
gone off track, that have exceeded their powers under separation
of powers and have really involved themselves too heavily in
running the executive branch. So I think that's the main problem.
(34:25):
What's going on at the Supreme Court is not enough
is going on. They have heard some arguments in some
cases and issued some stays, but the massive onslaught and
your viewers probably know, but they may not know the
magnitude of it. There are at least three hundred cases
that have been filed against the Trump administration. That's the
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last count I saw it. It's probably higher. I think
it's probably closer to four hundred. And this is part
of a coordinated effort to disrupt the executive branch, disrupt
Trump two point zero, and unfortunately the Supreme Court has
not gotten a handle on it.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Okay, so you say this as a coordinated effort. Very
clearly the Democrats are trying to flood the zone. So
what should the Supreme Court have already done or be
doing as we speak, that they're not doing well.
Speaker 11 (35:18):
The first thing they need to do is send a
message to the district court judges. I mean Chief Justice
Roberts has not hesitated to criticize, maybe not by name,
but everybody knows who he's talking about, Criticize Trump, criticize
Trump's supporters who've complained about what's happening in the courts.
So he doesn't hesitate to lash out. But why hasn't
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he gotten on TV like he's done when he criticizes,
you know, Trump administration and said the district court judges
need to get in line. They need to pay attention
to things like their own jurisdiction. They need to pay
attention to venue if you're even in the right course court.
They need to pay attention to the privilege that the
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executive branch has to run the executive branch. I mean,
he could use the bully pulpit to get the district
court judges in line, much like he's tried to use
the bully pulpit to get the Trump administration in line.
So that's one thing they could do. The second thing
they could do is be more receptive to stay applications
by the government. A stay application is where a district
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court judge does something that administration believes is improper and
then you have to go to the appeals court, and
then you have to go to the Supreme Court. And
they have not been quick to rule on those. They
have done a little bit, but they should have done
more earlier. So the Supreme Court needs to send messages
to district court judges that when you're usurping the power
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of the executive branch, when you're disrespecting our constitutional structure,
when you are exceeding your own jurisdiction and authority, that
the Supreme Court is going to step in very quickly.
Speaker 7 (36:57):
Now.
Speaker 11 (36:57):
Judge Justice Roberts made a statement fairly early on in
this administration that people need to let the process work,
They need to let the appeals process work. And the
problem with that is district court judges, mostly in five
judicial districts by the way, have issued what's quoted temporary
restraining orders, which are very hard to appeal. They're generally
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not appealable, and so what that does is that creates
anywhere from two to four, two to six weeks of
disruption of the executive branch before they can even get
something before either an appeals court or the Supreme Court.
And so this is a situation which in many ways
is out of control. Getting back to what the organized
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effort to flood the zone, as you say, New York
Times of all places, reported in late November of last
year that Democrats had organized an army of eight hundred
lawyers with a huge bank of money to fund it,
forty organizations to flood the administration. They've decided that they
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lost the election and they're therefore going to use the
court system to try to prevent the president from being president.
And so this is all coordinated. The Supreme Court knows
it's coordinated. They can read the New York Times, just
like I can read the New York Times. I don't
frequently read it, but I did read that, and they
know what's going on, and they should. They need to
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get a handle on it because at the end of
last year, trust in the judiciary was at the lowest
point in history. And you know, the judiciary really has
the trust of people and its reputation and respect for
the system. They don't have an army, they don't have,
you know, the ability to enforce anything other than people
obeying them, and they really need to consider John Roberts
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needs to consider whether the inaction from the Supreme Court
is so destroying the legitimacy of the court system that
he's trying to presume the court and try to keep
it out of politics. He's actually putting it into politics.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
So, Bill, I'm gonna ask you something that I probably
shouldn't even ask because we're venturing outside of the realm
of what is legal and what is the law, what
is precedent and things like that. But why why John
Roberts is not a fool. As much as I may
dislike the man, Like you said, he reads the New
York Times, I promise he wakes up in the morning
like the rest of us do, and he looks at
his phone and he reads stories. It's a cute. He
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knows what you just said is true. On the short term,
they may feel high and mighty, but in the long term,
he's destroying the legitimacy of the court. And we're gonna
go to a dark place as a country because the
next Republican nominee is gonna run on arresting Supreme Court
justices and he's gonna win the nomination. So why can't
he see it?
Speaker 11 (39:48):
I don't know, but that's really been his history that
you can go back, probably further than the Obamacare ruling.
But let's start at the Obamacare ruling. I think it
was twenty twelve where reports were that he flipped his
vote because of the pressure from the Democrats. Barack Obama
went public with saying that the legitimacy of the Court
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will be destroyed if he strikes down Obamacare, and reports
were that Roberts shifted because he didn't want to put
the Court in a position that it was running up
against a major Democrat president popular and so that has
kind of been his role, is that he thinks by
doing nothing, he keeps the Court out of it. I
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can't explain why he doesn't see what's going on, but
it's pretty clear he doesn't see the bigger picture here.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
All right, let's focus on something decent. DEI are we
gonna get a win there?
Speaker 11 (40:47):
We're winning, okay, but it's going to be a long
term effort. The one thing I always try to emphasize
to people is that DEI. The racialization of everything. Mostly
we talk about it in terms of education, but it's
in companies now, it's in government now. But the racialization
of everything is so deeply embedded in the culture and
(41:08):
so supported by a bureaucracy that's embedded in companies, usually
the HR Department, It's embedded in universities almost everywhere, that
it's not going to go away just because Trump signs
some executive orders. His executive orders have been extremely important
and extremely impactful. He has seriously disrupted billions of dollars
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flowing not just to the bureaucracy that supports DEI, but
to the consultant class that supports DEI. I don't think
we really realized, and I've been working in this area
for a decade, I don't think I fully realized how
much of the DEI industry was funded by the federal government,
by the Department of Education, by USAID by other agencies.
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And a lot of that is being termed dominated, a
lot of it will not be renewed, and that's hugely impactful,
and so at many levels, what the Trump administration has
done is putting us on the path to victory against DEI.
But it's not a path that's going to be a
year or two years. I'm not even sure victory can
(42:17):
be achieved in one Trump term. Now, whether there's a
third Trump term saying that jokingly, of course, or whether
it's vance or whether whoever it happens to be. If
you put back to back four year terms and they
keep up the fight against DEI and they cut off
the funding and they eliminate the job market within government
(42:38):
for these sort of careers, I think it will have
a profound impact. But it's not Nobody should think that
it's over. And just because there have been some early
victories that they're going to win. As somebody who works
in higher ed at Cornell Cornell Law School, I can
tell you the DEI culture is deeply embedded everywhere in
(43:02):
the university and it is the one thing they will
never give up if they have any choice. And so
it's going to be a long slog, but I think
the Trump administration is on the right track.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
See we ended up on a positive note, everybody. Bill,
as always, I appreciate you very much, Thank you, sir.
All right, speaking of all this race communism stuff, Trump
Trump hosted the Head of South Africa President of South
Africa today in the Oval office, and man, it did
not go the way the South African dude thought it
(43:36):
was going to go. We'll play it next. All right,
it's time to lighten the mood. Trump invited the President
of South Africa in and then abused him, and it
was hilarious.
Speaker 12 (43:54):
I would say, if that was Afrikana pharmagenocide, I can
bet you these three gentlemen would not be here, including
my Minister of Agriculture.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
He would not be with me.
Speaker 9 (44:07):
Excuse me, turn the lights down, turn the lights down
and just put this on.
Speaker 7 (44:12):
It's right behind you. Now, this is very bad.
Speaker 9 (44:18):
These are These are burial sides right here, burial sites.
Speaker 7 (44:25):
Over a thousand of white farmers.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Have they told you where that is, mister president? I mean,
you know, I'd like to know where that is.
Speaker 12 (44:35):
Of course, this I've never seen, okay, I mean it's
in South Africa.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
It would being a guitari jet used.
Speaker 7 (44:47):
As the what are you talking about? So we know
what you're talking about this spot, you know, you to
get out of here.
Speaker 9 (44:55):
What does this have to do with the guitar jet
they're giving the United States have for us a jet?
Speaker 7 (45:00):
Okay?
Speaker 9 (45:01):
And it's a great thing. We're talking about a lot
of other things. It's NBC trying to get off the
subject of what you just saw.
Speaker 7 (45:08):
You are a real you know, you're a terrible report
number one. You don't have what it takes to be reported.
You're not smart enough.
Speaker 9 (45:15):
But for you to go into a subject about a
jet that was given to.
Speaker 7 (45:19):
The United States Air Force, which is a very nice thing.
Speaker 9 (45:22):
They also gave five point one trillion dollars worth of
investment in addition to the jet.
Speaker 7 (45:29):
Go back. You're to go back to.
Speaker 9 (45:30):
Your studio at NBC because Brian Roberts and the people
that run that place, they are to be investigated. They
are so terrible the way you run that network, and
you're a disgrace. No more questions from you.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Go ahead, all right, I'll see you tomorrow.
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