May 22, 2025 • 37 mins
No one cares about the very real threat of American debt. What happens when the money runs out and the debt bomb goes off? Why is every news outlet using the word ‘ambush’ when talking about Trump and the South African President? Why we bleed our manufacturing base to China for the last 50 years. Was Lincoln a tyrant?
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is a Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of the
Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Thursday. Yes, we'll
get to the bills stuff very very briefly this hour.
I want to put a final word on this race
communism stuff. We'll get to emails, the COVID vaccine cover
up and so much more coming up on the Jesse
(00:36):
Kelly Show. I want to once again remind you that
tomorrow is asked Doctor Jesse Friday, and you need to
get your questions emailed in now to Jesse at Jesse
kellyshow dot com. So one final word on this race
communism stuffcause I got a bunch of emails here, Jesse.
I'm so angry about everything happening in South Africa. According
to the left, Trump is ambushing the president of South Africa.
(00:59):
It's funny you brought up that word ambushing. Western Lensman,
as he often does, put together an amazing montage. You
will hear news station after news station. These are different stations,
different shows, all using the same word. We're going to
discuss what's happening here. What are you actually hearing in
(01:22):
Wan in the dramatic scene in the Oval Office today,
the tense confrontation President Trump ambushing the President of South Africa.
Next another Oval office meltdown, President Trump ambushing the President
of South Africa. President Trump is being accused of conducting
something of a diplomatic ambush a South Africa's president in
the Oval Office.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
To be with you, I'm Katie, sir, President Trump orchestrated.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Another Oval office ambush. Today is today Donald Trump meeting
with the President of South Africa and attempting to ambush
and humiliate that leader.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
To Zelenski territory, where essentially he was a bit ambushed
inside the Oval office.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
We felt like an ambush in there, kind of like
the President Zelenski meeting in the Oval office.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
This was an ambush.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
It was orchestrated.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Errol Romaposa brought his best diplomatic self to this meeting,
but nothing could have prepared him for this multimedia ambush.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
What started as to some degree in ambush, Well, Katie,
I mean it wasn't ambushed.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Ambush, ambushed, ambush and ambushed, ambushing, ambush.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
And ambushed inside the Oval office ambush.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Okay, interesting, So we'll discuss the why that happens in
a moment.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
But what is happening Because you've.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Heard things like this before, You've heard montages like this
before that people put together, where all these communists on
the news are saying the same thing with the same wording.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
The thing that went right was the investment over decades
in the basic and clinical biomedical research that allowed us
to make a vaccine in unprecedented time of less than
a year that turned out to be safe and highly effective.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
They are safe and so effective.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
We know that vaccines are safe and effective.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
That data is so compelling that these vaccines are safe
and effective.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
This is becoming a pandemic of the unvaccinated. Our data
from the CDCs today suggests, you know that vaccinated people
do not carry the virus, don't get sick, So it's
really quite safe for you, the vaccinated person.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
We got it safe and effective. They do it all
the time. Remember all all the what were they were hallmarks?
The FBI is now investigating whether those alleged hunter or
buy emails are actually connected to a larger foreign intelligence operation.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
They may be related to a foreign intelligence operation.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Foreign intelligence operation, foreign intelligence foreign intelligence, foreign intelligence operation.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
For all we know, these emails are made up.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
The information found on the laptop may be part of
a Russian disinformation campaign, part of.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
A Russian disinformation effort, described by many intelligence experts as
having hallmarks, all the hallmarks.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Rather all the hallmarks of a Russian.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Russian Russian disinformation Russian disinformation disinformation campaign.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
This is a classic example of the right wing media machine.
What's happening there.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Whenever you see every single news organization use the exact
same wording to describe anything at all, Here's what you
have to understand. Every time, it's a lie. Whatever they're
saying is a lie, and they know it's a lie.
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Therefore they're all repeating it. They're repeating it loudly because
you can make people believe lies with enough repetition. They
get together, they decide on the lie, and then they
push that lie as hard and fast as they possibly
he can. Whenever every single media organization is using the
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exact same talking point, you know they're lying. And I
say that not for the past, for the future, because
they will do this again, because they do it all
the time. Chris and I could sit and play for
you montage after montage after montage of this happening on
every single issue. What about the election? I know, Chris,
you don't have to dig up anymore. What about the election?
(05:25):
The safest than fairest, It was the safest than fairis
we could all agree it was safe and fair, free
and fair safe, and oh you have it, Chris, go ahead, guy, fire.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
The reality is this was the most secure election we've
ever had, and it was one of the most well
run elections we've ever had.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
You know, a lot of this is just really a
strategy to erode public confidence in what was a very
well run, secure election.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
You know what transparency would be.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, we got secure. It was secure. It was definitely secure.
It's most secure, very secure, totally secure. That's how I
knew they were lying, and I knew they stole the election.
I didn't until then because I've learned after enough time
watching these people, when they're repeating the exact same thing,
it's a lie. It's an outright lie every single time.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
That's the what. Now let's go to the why.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Why Why is the American the American media, why are
they so upset about Donald Trump showing a South African dictator?
That's what that guy really is, showing a South African
dictator and showing the American media the obvious oppression of
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white people by the South African government. Because they're upset,
that's why they all decided to agree on these exact
same wording and the lie. What upsets them about it? Well,
you see, when you've worked as long and as hard
as these people have to paint white people as the
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devil of history, everything is white people's fault. White people
are the source of all evil. Any other skin color
is saintly imperfect. And they've never done anything wrong. They've
just been oppressed by evil whitey And once you've achieved
what they've achieved. Ingraining that way of thinking into so
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many people in society, you simply cannot afford white people
of any stripe of any nation to actually be victims
of some sort of a crime. It's why the media
won't report on white on black crime in the country.
If they have to, they'll bend over backwards to avoid
any actual details of the thing. It's why over there
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in Germany, some crazy Islamic nutball goes and stabs as
many people as possible. His race, his ethnicity, his name
will be protected at any cost the other people.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
If anything, they'll be blamed for the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
You see, they have put into place a system that
must be protected. That system is white people evil, everyone
else saintly. It's really honestly, as I said before, you know,
I actually don't support taking in any refugees from South
Africa because I don't support currently taking in any refugees
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from anywhere anywhere, not one. We are full, get them
out everybody. However, as I said before, I'm thrilled Trump
did it, because wow, did it expose the game we
just discussed. And the game is simply, white people are
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the enemy. They shall be smashed, and they deserve to
be smashed anywhere you find them. Everyone else perfect white
people enemy, and it works. It works. It's extremely effective.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
People.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
And maybe the wildest thing about all this race communism
is ninety nine percent of the people who practice it
don't even know they're communists.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
They don't have any idea. They think they're.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Civil rights fighters, or they think they're just fighting for
justice or that, but really they're race communists. It's what
they are, all right. Now, let's talk about.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
This on this vote.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
The yser two hundred and fifteen, the nayser two hundred
and fourteen with one answering present, the bill is passed.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Let's say you say, big beautiful bill pass Congress with
the lamest USA chant ever. Caroline Levitt talked about it today.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
This one big beautiful bill will implement President Trump's Make
America Great Again agenda by delivering the largest tax cut
in American history for middle class families, the working class,
and small businesses. Yes, the one Big Beautiful Bill fulfills
President Trump's promises of no tax on tips, which was
applauded today by the CEO of Uber no tax on it.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, we got all that. We'll discuss it briefly, and
I'm going to tell you why it's going to be
so brief in a moment that we'll do some emails
and move on to some COVID stuff. Let me talk
to you about saving money, because as inflation continues, let's
be honest, it's not gone. You know, it's not gone.
Saving money is important. Saving money is always important. There's
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a lot of reasons to switch to pure talk. Saving
money may be the top reason. It's not my top reason,
but it's certainly towards the top. I'll tell you that
I just I used to get our cell phone bill
from T.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Mobile, and I was just floored. I was floored. I
remember the night I sat down with AB and asked,
do we need all this coverage?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Can we drop a line at that kind of crazy pricing?
Our bill got cut in half when we switched to
Pure Talk, and my coverage got better. Better, not worse.
Switch to Pure Talk, Man, it takes ten minutes or less.
You're on the phone with an American who speaks English.
They make it painless. Your bill goes down. There's no
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reason not to switch.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
None.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Their CEO fought for this country in the jungles of Vietnam.
That's why they only do patriotic things. Never black lives
matter stuff. Pick up your phone dial pound two five
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Jesse Kelly, We'll be back the.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Jesse Kelly Show. I like it returns next.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Thursday.
Let's get to some of the emails to clear out
some room for themorrow.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Jesse.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
The main purpose of the tarffs is to bring jobs
back to the USA that went overseas to China. In particular,
that should be the conservative theme instead of falling for
the Democrats cost narrative. Okay, let's talk about that. That's
certainly worthy of a discussion. First, let's understand motivations here.
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I want American jobs back here. I want American manufacturing
back here. And it's not only for national security reasons,
although that's a real that's a nice sell.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
And it's true.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I want American jobs here because I like Americans, and
I want Americans to have good jobs, good careers. And
know not that you have to go to college for
nineteen thousand years to get one. You used to be
able to have a real, nice job, a nice career
in this country without that, and I believe in that.
So let's be crystal clear on that. Two, let's be
crystal clear on this. There are things that you believe
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and things that I believe that we're never going to
be able to sell to the American public.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And I get that.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
In fact, the bill is going to come into play here.
Look you know what, Actually the bill's perfect. We'll come
back to the tariffs. Because I was going to finish
up my thoughts on the bill. Thomas Massey got up today.
He's the one who stood against the bill, you know,
past the House, and Massey said this.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
We'd love to stand here and tell the American people
we can cut your taxes and we can increase spending
and everything's going to be just fine. But I can't
do that because I'm here to deliver a dose of reality.
This bill dramatically increases deficits in the near term, but
promises our government will be fiscally responsible five years from now.
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Where have we heard that before? How do you bind
a future Congress to these promises? This bill is a
debt bomb ticking. Congress can do funny math, fantasy math
if it wants, but bond investors don't. And this week
they sent us a message. Moody's downgraded our credit rating,
and the bond investors who buy our debt and find
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us finance our debt.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
There are things we can't sell to the American people.
And I told you I was gonna tell you something,
so let me tell it to you now. I'm not
sure how often I'm gonna rant on spending anymore. I
am passionate about this because I understand what happens to
countries when the debt becomes too much, and it's horrific.
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I will always be passionate about it. But I can't
make people care. I can't. People don't care. You may care,
but the masses don't care. And it doesn't matter how
much I yell and scream about inflation or whatever. And
it's not just the left, don't say it's just the left.
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The right doesn't care either. The right does not care.
The GOP doesn't care. The left doesn't care. Every time
there's a new president, they destroy absolutely blow through the budget,
They blow through the treasury. Every president increases spending, it
just goes up, up, up, up up without and Obama
spent more, and then Trump spent more than Obama, and
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then Biden spent more than Trump, and now the second
Trump is gonna spend more and there's never, ever, ever,
any stop to it. And the right is not angry
about it. The right pretends to be angry about it,
but they actually don't want to cut any spending. And
you know what, I came to the conclusion, and maybe
I'm just being poudy and whiny right now. I came
to the conclusion this morning that I just need to
stop talking about the debt and stop caring about the debt.
(15:27):
I actually got this text from a friend, a good friend,
a little while ago, and well, I'll read it to
your verbatim. What did he say? Nobody is serious about
the debt. We just party until the debt bomb goes off.
A waste of breath to pretend anyone wants to stop
it anymore. I'm gonna come back to the tariffs. Okay,
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we are going to come back. I'm not changing the subject,
but it the budget talk led me perfectly into the
debt talk. I don't know how often you're gonna hear
me yell about it on the show, not because I
don't care.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
But because people don't care.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I believe I don't want to sound too black, piled
and heavy here on a Thursday. I believe the United
States of America is going to continue to spend insane
amounts of money, no matter who's in charge, and it
will not stop until there is a crisis that we
can't talk or threaten our way out of, and then
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the pain will be unimaginable. And the only thing I'm
going to have when that day comes is I told
you so, That's all I'm going to have. And that
won't even feel good. None of it will feel good.
It's going to be awful and nothing will stop it.
People don't care. The American people want their stuff. They
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want whatever, a check, a new Air Force base, a
paved highway they want. The American people want their stuff.
They want brand new ships. Then they want Navy ships.
Even I'm not even saying all the stuff is bad,
but they want stuff. There's no money for the money
is gone. But why waste my breath? Republicans don't care.
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Democrats don't care. Everyone pretends when the other guy is spending.
When Democrats get into office and they're sending all your
money to queer up kids, then we act like we're scared.
We act like we're scared of the debt and we're
upset about the whole thing. We gotta stop this spending,
and vice versa. Republicans get elected and they hand out
large quantities of money, gigantic port This doesn't even cut
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the Green New Deal, it doesn't. It cuts portions of it.
They say, hundreds of millions of dollars for the Inflation
Inflation Reduction Act still in here. You know why it's
in there because the Republican districts want the money.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Why waste my breath?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
How many of those Republicans who signed up for Green
New Deal money, how many will lose their election because
of it?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Zero? Not one? Why waste my breath? Now? This goes
back to the tariff talk. We'll tie this in. You said,
stop talking about the costs. Hang on.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
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Chris was asking me during the break, what happens during
this debt crisis that I'm not going to talk about anymore.
When foreign entities and domestic entities decide they're going to
stop buying American debt because American debt is too risky
to buy, the world moves off of the reserve currency,
what happens is your standard of living will drop in
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ways that seem unimaginable.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Let me paint a little picture here.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Let's say we're just going to use very even numbers
that are not accurate, but we're going to use even
numbers for for simplicity's sake. Okay, so let's use this.
We as a household, you and me. We're a family, right, Hey, look,
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you're my brother or something. Let's not make it weird,
or my sister or something.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
We're a family. But we live in the same house.
We bring one hundred thousand dollars a year together, right,
But we have credit cards. We have pretty good credit score,
so we don't just have credit cards. You know what,
We each have American Express platinums.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Have you ever seen one of these things?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
An American Express Platinum. It's like super thick, It's like
this piece of metal. And get this, there's no limit.
We have such good credit scores that there is no
limit on our credit card.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
None.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
If you want to walk into Chevy tomorrow and slap
down a credit card to buy a corvette, they may
hit you for some credit card fees, but it'll go through.
So we have no limit because our credit is so good.
And that kind of spending power can be dangerous. Right now,
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I already said we bring in one hundred thousand dollars
a year. But here's the problem. Yeah, that pays for
the house and a couple of cars, but really, really
really falling in love with San Diego.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
The weather is really nice.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
We're gonna start going out there three four times a year.
We'll spend a week at a really nice hotel, drinks, steaks.
Long story short, we're putting fifty thousand dollars a year
on the credit card because it exceeds the one hundred
thousand dollars we make our right.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
But there's other things that go into that fifty grand.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
You see, I bought a new car, do it on
the credit card. New shoes, credit card, wife wanted some
new earrings, credit card. The one hundred thousand. It's paying
the basics, the cars and everything. Now, we have done
this for ten years. For ten years we've been flying
to San Diego, buying new earrings, buying new cars, putting
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it on the credit card. But the problem is those
bills are piling up, and the bills are piling up,
and at some point in time you can't pay your
credit card bill to American Express anymore. The bills have
gotten too high, the debt has gotten too high, and
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you have to call AMAX and you have to have
that terrible conversation, Hey, ooh, is there.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Anything we can do. I can't. I can't pay anymore.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Well, there may be things you can do, but you're
not gonna have an American Express Platinum anymore. They're gonna
cancel that credit card. Now, let's think about our household.
We've been living like this for ten years. For ten years,
we've been going to San Diego. I love San Diego.
They have Sea World. For ten years, it's been pretty
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new danglely earrings, new cars, new shoes, new guns for Jesse.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Ten years. Now that all stops.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Not only that, it's actually worse because maybe you're thinking, well,
now you're gonna have to live within your one hundred
thousand dollars a year means oh no, no, no, no, you
don't understand. You just piled up all that debt that
still has to be paid off. Now instead of living
on one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year, now
you're gonna have to find a way to live on
fifty thousand dollars a year because the other fifty is
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gonna have to go to pay off the debt you
just paid.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Country. Here's what it looks like.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
We spend trillions with a tee more than we take in.
Now we spend trillions more every single year. What this
has done is it has artificially inflated our standard of
living as mass quantities of government money is injected into
the money, into the markets and everything. We are only
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allowed to do this because the MX Platinum hasn't been
canceled yet. That AMEX platinum is the world and domestic
for an end, domestic buying our debt. They were always
buying our debt because our credit score was so good.
We were a guarantee that American debt will always pay
off in the end. When they decide that's too risky,
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they stop buying the debt. When they stop buying the debt,
everything in your life changes. It doesn't sound personal, it
will be very personal. Do you think inflation is bad?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Now?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
What do you think government's gonna do when that day comes?
They're gonna try to print their way out of it
like every other government does, thus destroying the value of
your money. You may think you'll have to live within
your means. No no, no, no no no, You're gonna
live well below your means because your money's going to
go less far and all this stuff. I shouldn't even
be bothering talking about it because nobody gives a crap.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Nobody cares.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Congress doesn't care, President doesn't care, nobody cares. Everybody wants
to do things. I want to do things. No, give
me more money. I'm gonna do things. I can't not
do things.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I'm here.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Let me do things. I want to go to Sea World.
I love San Diego. I'm used to it.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
Now.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Can't we go to San Diego? Can't we? I mean,
can't we build a brand new navy.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
The one thing the President truly understands is in order
to be a superpower, you need to have a navy.
If you don't control the sea, you're not a superpower.
So to me, the reason America is a superpower, there's
three reasons.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
There's a US Navy, there's a US.
Speaker 7 (25:02):
Dollar, and there's the American capitalist system in the American people, right,
and that's why we have it.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I'm not even going to kill that guy or say
he said anything wrong there. That's John Falan, He's the
Secretary of the Navy. And I'm not going to say
Trump is wrong for wanting a powerful navy. He's not
necessarily wrong. But how are we paying for that?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
What money. We're going to have the.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Biggest, beautiful, most powerful navy patrolling the shores with no
fuel in it. Patrolling the shores of a country in
a debt crisis you can't imagine. So let me bring
this all the way back home to the guy who
said we need to stop the Democrat cost narrative of tariffs.
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This is not a pro or anti tariff argument I'm making,
But let me get this out of the way, right
out of the bat right, right out of the gates.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Here.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
You cannot sell higher costs to the American people. They
will not buy it. Not for any length of time.
You cannot. The Communists have tried this forever. Jimmy Carter
tried it too. Hey, just put on a sweater if
you're cold. It does not work. The most impossible sell
in politics is selling people why they should do with less,
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why their life should get worse.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
I don't know how all the.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Tariff stuff and trade deal stuff is going to work out,
and I don't want to pretend like I do, and
I don't want to act like I'm against the whole thing.
That's not what I'm saying. But don't think costs, don't
think that's some kind of democrat narrative. You cannot sell
a lower standard of living to people under any circumstances,
and in no country. If you're in Korea, Russia, America, Zimbabwe,
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I don't care where it is. You cannot stand up
in front of the people and tell them to do
with less and expect them to be happy. It does
not work that way. It doesn't work that way. Human
beings don't voluntarily reduce their standard of living. It will
not have all right, All right, now, I do want
to address the bringing jobs back to America. Bringing jobs?
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How do we bring these jobs back? On top of
you know, putting in things like tariffs and things like that.
What else do we do? Let's discuss that before we
discuss that. Speaking of America, did you know that Berna
is American? We've never actually talked about that. Berna b
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you imagine the terror of getting to your car and
seeing a bad man standing there ready to hurt you.
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How are you going to stop him? What's your plan?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Scream? Pull out your burn a launcher and shoot him
in the chest. He will live.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
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You didn't take a life. He'll want to die because
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get to the COVID stuff and a few and I
want to get to some more emails, but I just
want to address this final point. It was an email
about tariffs and stuff like that, and it was good,
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but it was about the jobs. How we need these
American jobs back, because we do. We need the American
jobs back. We can never I don't care tariffs, no tariffs, whatever.
We can never create the kind of jobs we used
to have in this country while simultaneously making the business
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environment awful. It doesn't work that way. It's not humanly possible.
You're trying to force something that cannot be forced.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I am not saying we need to go to slave wages.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Or I don't believe in that at all. I'm not
saying stuff like that. But you cannot simultaneously have endless
labor laws, endless environmental laws while also bringing back American jobs,
American manufacturing in the way you used to have it.
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I know you might strike a trade deal to build
a factory here or there, and I'm not complaining about
that stuff. I want that stuff. I want those jobs back.
But part of the reason the rust belt turned into
the rust belt is we allowed American democrats to make
America not hospitable to businesses. China of course pounced on this.
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Granted they were lying, but China, of course pounced on this,
and they told all those American businesses, hey, you know
who doesn't have an EPA me, come on over here.
I'm not going to send it an inspector to make
sure you're not putting on Well, we tested the co
two levels. You're not getting that here in China. Come
make your shoes over here. And American businesses said, you
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know what, I'm going overseas. Until that changes, we will
not get significant, lasting change bringing back American manufacturing. If
you want to do it permanently, it won't come from
a trade deal or a tariff. Eliminate the EPA. You
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really want to bring back these jobs, Take the EPA
fire everybody there, reduce their budget to zero, demo the
building to the ground, Pass the law through Congress eliminating
it completely, and voila, American manufacturing jobs will begin will
begin to appear again. But you cannot determine every species,
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Every animal species is endangered. Every sort of factory output,
no matter what it is, factory waste, whether it's in
the air of the ground, it's all super toxic that
you're either not allowed to put out or you need
a special permeitter.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
And I'm not even I'm not here saying.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
That we should go back to the days where you
just dump the factory waste in the river and pray
for the best. That's the last thing in the world
I want. I believe in protecting the environment. But you
cannot have regulation after regulation, permit after permit, tax after
fine after fee after tax after fine after fee, and
then eliminate all that red tape by a tariff. It
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doesn't work that way at all. Make the business environment
welcoming or the jobs don't come back, not permanently anyway.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
All right, we'll get to the uh, the.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
COVID stuff, which is a little bit ugly, so we'll
wit on that.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Jesse.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
The other night we were having dinner with old friends.
The topic of naming our children, who are all adults,
and how we decided on those names came up. May
I ask how you and ob chose James and Luke?
Is it after family or biblical in nature? Luke is
a great name, sounds like a John Wayne character. Uh, yes,
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well it's not family. We wanted. Look, we're both simple people,
very very simple, basic people, and we wanted It's just
a personal preference, you know, I'm not saying everyone has
to be like me. We wanted, yes, we wanted them
to be biblical, so yes, James and lucas biblical New Testament.
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Chris and we wanted them to be basic, direct guy names.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
That's what we wanted.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
We debated Sam Jake, the basic direct guy names. That's
what we wanted, and that's why we chose the names.
And it was actually fairly easy. Hey Jesse, longtime listener
from the Red from Blood Red, Alabama. I'm not sure
I've ever heard your take on this. I've always believed
that Lincoln was a tyrant Abraham Lincoln for forcing seceding
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states back into the Union through war. It's a spicy take,
I know. My question. Had the Confederacy won their independence
in the War of Northern Aggression? He said civil War
in Kami language. Could one argue that the Union may
not have had the military strength to make an impact in.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
World War One and World War II?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
And perhaps sitting it out entirely. We appreciate what you,
Chris and Corey do for America. Says his name is
Luke actually, oh and he has his first grand baby
on the way, how about that he and his wife
had their first grand baby. That's freaking cool. Congratulations. Okay,
So the question is, what if Lincoln didn't force the
South back into the Union, does America even get involved
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in WW one or WW two. I think that would
be the pro Lincoln argument. And hear me out, this
is what I mean. This is what I mean. I'm
not making that pro Lincoln argument. But if someone was
to make the pro Lincoln argument, here's what they'd say. Well,
that's why Lincoln insisted that America stay together by any means.
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Lincoln took the entire Constitution and he wiped his butt
with it and he threw it in the trash can
in order to force the South to stay in the Union,
because he believed that anything and everything was permissible in
pursuit of that goal. If you have to abuse, if
you have to violate the Constitution, if you have to
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start a war, if you have to kill, no matter what,
the South must stay in the Union, and especially in
southern circles. Everyone listening in the South right now, they're saying, yeah,
that's because Lincoln was a dirty tyrant, And that's actually
very fair. I'm not debating that However, Lincoln would tell
you if he was alive today, well, do you enjoy
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America being the biggest, most powerful country on Earth? They
wouldn't have been if I had let half the country
split off. I'm just playing Devil's advocate, That's what he
would say. It's a fascinating argument. I love talking civil
wars stuff like that. It always makes people mad. I'll
have a bunch of angry emails about it tomorrow. Jesse
at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Pour in your hate totally fine,
(36:08):
doesn't bother me at all. But make sure you also
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and the COVID stuff.
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It's ugly. Hang on
This is a Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of the
Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Thursday. Yes, we'll
get to the bills stuff very very briefly this hour.
I want to put a final word on this race
communism stuff. We'll get to emails, the COVID vaccine cover
up and so much more coming up on the Jesse
(00:36):
Kelly Show. I want to once again remind you that
tomorrow is asked Doctor Jesse Friday, and you need to
get your questions emailed in now to Jesse at Jesse
kellyshow dot com. So one final word on this race
communism stuffcause I got a bunch of emails here, Jesse.
I'm so angry about everything happening in South Africa. According
to the left, Trump is ambushing the president of South Africa.
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It's funny you brought up that word ambushing. Western Lensman,
as he often does, put together an amazing montage. You
will hear news station after news station. These are different stations,
different shows, all using the same word. We're going to
discuss what's happening here. What are you actually hearing in
(01:22):
Wan in the dramatic scene in the Oval Office today,
the tense confrontation President Trump ambushing the President of South Africa.
Next another Oval office meltdown, President Trump ambushing the President
of South Africa. President Trump is being accused of conducting
something of a diplomatic ambush a South Africa's president in
the Oval Office.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
To be with you, I'm Katie, sir, President Trump orchestrated.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Another Oval office ambush. Today is today Donald Trump meeting
with the President of South Africa and attempting to ambush
and humiliate that leader.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
To Zelenski territory, where essentially he was a bit ambushed
inside the Oval office.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
We felt like an ambush in there, kind of like
the President Zelenski meeting in the Oval office.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
This was an ambush.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
It was orchestrated.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Errol Romaposa brought his best diplomatic self to this meeting,
but nothing could have prepared him for this multimedia ambush.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
What started as to some degree in ambush, Well, Katie,
I mean it wasn't ambushed.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Ambush, ambushed, ambush and ambushed, ambushing, ambush.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
And ambushed inside the Oval office ambush.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Okay, interesting, So we'll discuss the why that happens in
a moment.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
But what is happening Because you've.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Heard things like this before, You've heard montages like this
before that people put together, where all these communists on
the news are saying the same thing with the same wording.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
The thing that went right was the investment over decades
in the basic and clinical biomedical research that allowed us
to make a vaccine in unprecedented time of less than
a year that turned out to be safe and highly effective.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
They are safe and so effective.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
We know that vaccines are safe and effective.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
That data is so compelling that these vaccines are safe
and effective.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
This is becoming a pandemic of the unvaccinated. Our data
from the CDCs today suggests, you know that vaccinated people
do not carry the virus, don't get sick, So it's
really quite safe for you, the vaccinated person.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
We got it safe and effective. They do it all
the time. Remember all all the what were they were hallmarks?
The FBI is now investigating whether those alleged hunter or
buy emails are actually connected to a larger foreign intelligence operation.
Speaker 7 (03:43):
They may be related to a foreign intelligence operation.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Foreign intelligence operation, foreign intelligence foreign intelligence, foreign intelligence operation.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
For all we know, these emails are made up.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
The information found on the laptop may be part of
a Russian disinformation campaign, part of.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
A Russian disinformation effort, described by many intelligence experts as
having hallmarks, all the hallmarks.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Rather all the hallmarks of a Russian.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Russian Russian disinformation Russian disinformation disinformation campaign.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
This is a classic example of the right wing media machine.
What's happening there.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Whenever you see every single news organization use the exact
same wording to describe anything at all, Here's what you
have to understand. Every time, it's a lie. Whatever they're
saying is a lie, and they know it's a lie.
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Therefore they're all repeating it. They're repeating it loudly because
you can make people believe lies with enough repetition. They
get together, they decide on the lie, and then they
push that lie as hard and fast as they possibly
he can. Whenever every single media organization is using the
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exact same talking point, you know they're lying. And I
say that not for the past, for the future, because
they will do this again, because they do it all
the time. Chris and I could sit and play for
you montage after montage after montage of this happening on
every single issue. What about the election? I know, Chris,
you don't have to dig up anymore. What about the election?
(05:25):
The safest than fairest, It was the safest than fairis
we could all agree it was safe and fair, free
and fair safe, and oh you have it, Chris, go ahead, guy, fire.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
The reality is this was the most secure election we've
ever had, and it was one of the most well
run elections we've ever had.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
You know, a lot of this is just really a
strategy to erode public confidence in what was a very
well run, secure election.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
You know what transparency would be.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, we got secure. It was secure. It was definitely secure.
It's most secure, very secure, totally secure. That's how I
knew they were lying, and I knew they stole the election.
I didn't until then because I've learned after enough time
watching these people, when they're repeating the exact same thing,
it's a lie. It's an outright lie every single time.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
That's the what. Now let's go to the why.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Why Why is the American the American media, why are
they so upset about Donald Trump showing a South African dictator?
That's what that guy really is, showing a South African
dictator and showing the American media the obvious oppression of
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white people by the South African government. Because they're upset,
that's why they all decided to agree on these exact
same wording and the lie. What upsets them about it? Well,
you see, when you've worked as long and as hard
as these people have to paint white people as the
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devil of history, everything is white people's fault. White people
are the source of all evil. Any other skin color
is saintly imperfect. And they've never done anything wrong. They've
just been oppressed by evil whitey And once you've achieved
what they've achieved. Ingraining that way of thinking into so
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many people in society, you simply cannot afford white people
of any stripe of any nation to actually be victims
of some sort of a crime. It's why the media
won't report on white on black crime in the country.
If they have to, they'll bend over backwards to avoid
any actual details of the thing. It's why over there
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in Germany, some crazy Islamic nutball goes and stabs as
many people as possible. His race, his ethnicity, his name
will be protected at any cost the other people.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
If anything, they'll be blamed for the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
You see, they have put into place a system that
must be protected. That system is white people evil, everyone
else saintly. It's really honestly, as I said before, you know,
I actually don't support taking in any refugees from South
Africa because I don't support currently taking in any refugees
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from anywhere anywhere, not one. We are full, get them
out everybody. However, as I said before, I'm thrilled Trump
did it, because wow, did it expose the game we
just discussed. And the game is simply, white people are
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the enemy. They shall be smashed, and they deserve to
be smashed anywhere you find them. Everyone else perfect white
people enemy, and it works. It works. It's extremely effective.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
People.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
And maybe the wildest thing about all this race communism
is ninety nine percent of the people who practice it
don't even know they're communists.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
They don't have any idea. They think they're.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Civil rights fighters, or they think they're just fighting for
justice or that, but really they're race communists. It's what
they are, all right. Now, let's talk about.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
This on this vote.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
The yser two hundred and fifteen, the nayser two hundred
and fourteen with one answering present, the bill is passed.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Let's say you say, big beautiful bill pass Congress with
the lamest USA chant ever. Caroline Levitt talked about it today.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
This one big beautiful bill will implement President Trump's Make
America Great Again agenda by delivering the largest tax cut
in American history for middle class families, the working class,
and small businesses. Yes, the one Big Beautiful Bill fulfills
President Trump's promises of no tax on tips, which was
applauded today by the CEO of Uber no tax on it.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, we got all that. We'll discuss it briefly, and
I'm going to tell you why it's going to be
so brief in a moment that we'll do some emails
and move on to some COVID stuff. Let me talk
to you about saving money, because as inflation continues, let's
be honest, it's not gone. You know, it's not gone.
Saving money is important. Saving money is always important. There's
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a lot of reasons to switch to pure talk. Saving
money may be the top reason. It's not my top reason,
but it's certainly towards the top. I'll tell you that
I just I used to get our cell phone bill
from T.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Mobile, and I was just floored. I was floored. I
remember the night I sat down with AB and asked,
do we need all this coverage?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Can we drop a line at that kind of crazy pricing?
Our bill got cut in half when we switched to
Pure Talk, and my coverage got better. Better, not worse.
Switch to Pure Talk, Man, it takes ten minutes or less.
You're on the phone with an American who speaks English.
They make it painless. Your bill goes down. There's no
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reason not to switch.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
None.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Their CEO fought for this country in the jungles of Vietnam.
That's why they only do patriotic things. Never black lives
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It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Thursday.
Let's get to some of the emails to clear out
some room for themorrow.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Jesse.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
The main purpose of the tarffs is to bring jobs
back to the USA that went overseas to China. In particular,
that should be the conservative theme instead of falling for
the Democrats cost narrative. Okay, let's talk about that. That's
certainly worthy of a discussion. First, let's understand motivations here.
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I want American jobs back here. I want American manufacturing
back here. And it's not only for national security reasons,
although that's a real that's a nice sell.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
And it's true.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I want American jobs here because I like Americans, and
I want Americans to have good jobs, good careers. And
know not that you have to go to college for
nineteen thousand years to get one. You used to be
able to have a real, nice job, a nice career
in this country without that, and I believe in that.
So let's be crystal clear on that. Two, let's be
crystal clear on this. There are things that you believe
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and things that I believe that we're never going to
be able to sell to the American public.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And I get that.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
In fact, the bill is going to come into play here.
Look you know what, Actually the bill's perfect. We'll come
back to the tariffs. Because I was going to finish
up my thoughts on the bill. Thomas Massey got up today.
He's the one who stood against the bill, you know,
past the House, and Massey said this.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
We'd love to stand here and tell the American people
we can cut your taxes and we can increase spending
and everything's going to be just fine. But I can't
do that because I'm here to deliver a dose of reality.
This bill dramatically increases deficits in the near term, but
promises our government will be fiscally responsible five years from now.
(13:38):
Where have we heard that before? How do you bind
a future Congress to these promises? This bill is a
debt bomb ticking. Congress can do funny math, fantasy math
if it wants, but bond investors don't. And this week
they sent us a message. Moody's downgraded our credit rating,
and the bond investors who buy our debt and find
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us finance our debt.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
There are things we can't sell to the American people.
And I told you I was gonna tell you something,
so let me tell it to you now. I'm not
sure how often I'm gonna rant on spending anymore. I
am passionate about this because I understand what happens to
countries when the debt becomes too much, and it's horrific.
(14:23):
I will always be passionate about it. But I can't
make people care. I can't. People don't care. You may care,
but the masses don't care. And it doesn't matter how
much I yell and scream about inflation or whatever. And
it's not just the left, don't say it's just the left.
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The right doesn't care either. The right does not care.
The GOP doesn't care. The left doesn't care. Every time
there's a new president, they destroy absolutely blow through the budget,
They blow through the treasury. Every president increases spending, it
just goes up, up, up, up up without and Obama
spent more, and then Trump spent more than Obama, and
(15:06):
then Biden spent more than Trump, and now the second
Trump is gonna spend more and there's never, ever, ever,
any stop to it. And the right is not angry
about it. The right pretends to be angry about it,
but they actually don't want to cut any spending. And
you know what, I came to the conclusion, and maybe
I'm just being poudy and whiny right now. I came
to the conclusion this morning that I just need to
stop talking about the debt and stop caring about the debt.
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I actually got this text from a friend, a good friend,
a little while ago, and well, I'll read it to
your verbatim. What did he say? Nobody is serious about
the debt. We just party until the debt bomb goes off.
A waste of breath to pretend anyone wants to stop
it anymore. I'm gonna come back to the tariffs. Okay,
(15:49):
we are going to come back. I'm not changing the subject,
but it the budget talk led me perfectly into the
debt talk. I don't know how often you're gonna hear
me yell about it on the show, not because I
don't care.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
But because people don't care.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
I believe I don't want to sound too black, piled
and heavy here on a Thursday. I believe the United
States of America is going to continue to spend insane
amounts of money, no matter who's in charge, and it
will not stop until there is a crisis that we
can't talk or threaten our way out of, and then
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the pain will be unimaginable. And the only thing I'm
going to have when that day comes is I told
you so, That's all I'm going to have. And that
won't even feel good. None of it will feel good.
It's going to be awful and nothing will stop it.
People don't care. The American people want their stuff. They
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want whatever, a check, a new Air Force base, a
paved highway they want. The American people want their stuff.
They want brand new ships. Then they want Navy ships.
Even I'm not even saying all the stuff is bad,
but they want stuff. There's no money for the money
is gone. But why waste my breath? Republicans don't care.
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Democrats don't care. Everyone pretends when the other guy is spending.
When Democrats get into office and they're sending all your
money to queer up kids, then we act like we're scared.
We act like we're scared of the debt and we're
upset about the whole thing. We gotta stop this spending,
and vice versa. Republicans get elected and they hand out
large quantities of money, gigantic port This doesn't even cut
(17:33):
the Green New Deal, it doesn't. It cuts portions of it.
They say, hundreds of millions of dollars for the Inflation
Inflation Reduction Act still in here. You know why it's
in there because the Republican districts want the money.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Why waste my breath?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
How many of those Republicans who signed up for Green
New Deal money, how many will lose their election because
of it?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Zero? Not one? Why waste my breath? Now? This goes
back to the tariff talk. We'll tie this in. You said,
stop talking about the costs. Hang on.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
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(18:35):
Chris was asking me during the break, what happens during
this debt crisis that I'm not going to talk about anymore.
When foreign entities and domestic entities decide they're going to
stop buying American debt because American debt is too risky
to buy, the world moves off of the reserve currency,
what happens is your standard of living will drop in
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ways that seem unimaginable.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Let me paint a little picture here.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Let's say we're just going to use very even numbers
that are not accurate, but we're going to use even
numbers for for simplicity's sake. Okay, so let's use this.
We as a household, you and me. We're a family, right, Hey, look,
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you're my brother or something. Let's not make it weird,
or my sister or something.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
We're a family. But we live in the same house.
We bring one hundred thousand dollars a year together, right,
But we have credit cards. We have pretty good credit score,
so we don't just have credit cards. You know what,
We each have American Express platinums.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Have you ever seen one of these things?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
An American Express Platinum. It's like super thick, It's like
this piece of metal. And get this, there's no limit.
We have such good credit scores that there is no
limit on our credit card.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
None.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
If you want to walk into Chevy tomorrow and slap
down a credit card to buy a corvette, they may
hit you for some credit card fees, but it'll go through.
So we have no limit because our credit is so good.
And that kind of spending power can be dangerous. Right now,
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I already said we bring in one hundred thousand dollars
a year. But here's the problem. Yeah, that pays for
the house and a couple of cars, but really, really
really falling in love with San Diego.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
The weather is really nice.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
We're gonna start going out there three four times a year.
We'll spend a week at a really nice hotel, drinks, steaks.
Long story short, we're putting fifty thousand dollars a year
on the credit card because it exceeds the one hundred
thousand dollars we make our right.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
But there's other things that go into that fifty grand.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
You see, I bought a new car, do it on
the credit card. New shoes, credit card, wife wanted some
new earrings, credit card. The one hundred thousand. It's paying
the basics, the cars and everything. Now, we have done
this for ten years. For ten years we've been flying
to San Diego, buying new earrings, buying new cars, putting
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it on the credit card. But the problem is those
bills are piling up, and the bills are piling up,
and at some point in time you can't pay your
credit card bill to American Express anymore. The bills have
gotten too high, the debt has gotten too high, and
(21:49):
you have to call AMAX and you have to have
that terrible conversation, Hey, ooh, is there.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Anything we can do. I can't. I can't pay anymore.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Well, there may be things you can do, but you're
not gonna have an American Express Platinum anymore. They're gonna
cancel that credit card. Now, let's think about our household.
We've been living like this for ten years. For ten years,
we've been going to San Diego. I love San Diego.
They have Sea World. For ten years, it's been pretty
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new danglely earrings, new cars, new shoes, new guns for Jesse.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Ten years. Now that all stops.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Not only that, it's actually worse because maybe you're thinking, well,
now you're gonna have to live within your one hundred
thousand dollars a year means oh no, no, no, no, you
don't understand. You just piled up all that debt that
still has to be paid off. Now instead of living
on one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year, now
you're gonna have to find a way to live on
fifty thousand dollars a year because the other fifty is
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gonna have to go to pay off the debt you
just paid.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Country. Here's what it looks like.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
We spend trillions with a tee more than we take in.
Now we spend trillions more every single year. What this
has done is it has artificially inflated our standard of
living as mass quantities of government money is injected into
the money, into the markets and everything. We are only
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allowed to do this because the MX Platinum hasn't been
canceled yet. That AMEX platinum is the world and domestic
for an end, domestic buying our debt. They were always
buying our debt because our credit score was so good.
We were a guarantee that American debt will always pay
off in the end. When they decide that's too risky,
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they stop buying the debt. When they stop buying the debt,
everything in your life changes. It doesn't sound personal, it
will be very personal. Do you think inflation is bad?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Now?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
What do you think government's gonna do when that day comes?
They're gonna try to print their way out of it
like every other government does, thus destroying the value of
your money. You may think you'll have to live within
your means. No no, no, no no no, You're gonna
live well below your means because your money's going to
go less far and all this stuff. I shouldn't even
be bothering talking about it because nobody gives a crap.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Nobody cares.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Congress doesn't care, President doesn't care, nobody cares. Everybody wants
to do things. I want to do things. No, give
me more money. I'm gonna do things. I can't not
do things.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I'm here.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Let me do things. I want to go to Sea World.
I love San Diego. I'm used to it.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
Now.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Can't we go to San Diego? Can't we? I mean,
can't we build a brand new navy.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
The one thing the President truly understands is in order
to be a superpower, you need to have a navy.
If you don't control the sea, you're not a superpower.
So to me, the reason America is a superpower, there's
three reasons.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
There's a US Navy, there's a US.
Speaker 7 (25:02):
Dollar, and there's the American capitalist system in the American people, right,
and that's why we have it.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I'm not even going to kill that guy or say
he said anything wrong there. That's John Falan, He's the
Secretary of the Navy. And I'm not going to say
Trump is wrong for wanting a powerful navy. He's not
necessarily wrong. But how are we paying for that?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
What money. We're going to have the.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Biggest, beautiful, most powerful navy patrolling the shores with no
fuel in it. Patrolling the shores of a country in
a debt crisis you can't imagine. So let me bring
this all the way back home to the guy who
said we need to stop the Democrat cost narrative of tariffs.
(25:48):
This is not a pro or anti tariff argument I'm making,
But let me get this out of the way, right
out of the bat right, right out of the gates.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Here.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
You cannot sell higher costs to the American people. They
will not buy it. Not for any length of time.
You cannot. The Communists have tried this forever. Jimmy Carter
tried it too. Hey, just put on a sweater if
you're cold. It does not work. The most impossible sell
in politics is selling people why they should do with less,
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why their life should get worse.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
I don't know how all the.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Tariff stuff and trade deal stuff is going to work out,
and I don't want to pretend like I do, and
I don't want to act like I'm against the whole thing.
That's not what I'm saying. But don't think costs, don't
think that's some kind of democrat narrative. You cannot sell
a lower standard of living to people under any circumstances,
and in no country. If you're in Korea, Russia, America, Zimbabwe,
(26:46):
I don't care where it is. You cannot stand up
in front of the people and tell them to do
with less and expect them to be happy. It does
not work that way. It doesn't work that way. Human
beings don't voluntarily reduce their standard of living. It will
not have all right, All right, now, I do want
to address the bringing jobs back to America. Bringing jobs?
(27:08):
How do we bring these jobs back? On top of
you know, putting in things like tariffs and things like that.
What else do we do? Let's discuss that before we
discuss that. Speaking of America, did you know that Berna
is American? We've never actually talked about that. Berna b
y Rna. You know the Compact Launcher, their newest thing,
(27:30):
four point zero seven inches long. It's the size of
a smartphone, right in your shorts, right in your purse,
right in your pants. Carry something on you that you
can stop a bad man with at all times. Can
you imagine the terror of getting to your car and
seeing a bad man standing there ready to hurt you.
(27:51):
How are you going to stop him? What's your plan?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Scream? Pull out your burn a launcher and shoot him
in the chest. He will live.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
It's legal all fifty states, no permit, no background check.
You didn't take a life. He'll want to die because
the tear gas ball is gonna hurt really bad, but
he'll live. And did you know these things are hand
assembled in Fort Wayne, Indiana? Did you know that I
love these guys? Go to Berna dot com slash Jesse.
(28:21):
That's b why Berna dot com slash Jesse. You want
to try one? By the way, you can go try
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Just go look up their stores Berna dot com slash Jesse.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
We'll be back. You're listening to the Oracle.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
You love this one.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
It's a scream baby. The Jesse Kelly Show. It is
the Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Do not worry. We still have more than an hour left.
I mean a little bit more than an hour left.
But remember if you miss any part of the show,
you can download the whole thing. iHeart Spotify iTunes will
get to the COVID stuff and a few and I
want to get to some more emails, but I just
want to address this final point. It was an email
about tariffs and stuff like that, and it was good,
(29:09):
but it was about the jobs. How we need these
American jobs back, because we do. We need the American
jobs back. We can never I don't care tariffs, no tariffs, whatever.
We can never create the kind of jobs we used
to have in this country while simultaneously making the business
(29:32):
environment awful. It doesn't work that way. It's not humanly possible.
You're trying to force something that cannot be forced.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I am not saying we need to go to slave wages.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Or I don't believe in that at all. I'm not
saying stuff like that. But you cannot simultaneously have endless
labor laws, endless environmental laws while also bringing back American jobs,
American manufacturing in the way you used to have it.
(30:12):
I know you might strike a trade deal to build
a factory here or there, and I'm not complaining about
that stuff. I want that stuff. I want those jobs back.
But part of the reason the rust belt turned into
the rust belt is we allowed American democrats to make
America not hospitable to businesses. China of course pounced on this.
(30:35):
Granted they were lying, but China, of course pounced on this,
and they told all those American businesses, hey, you know
who doesn't have an EPA me, come on over here.
I'm not going to send it an inspector to make
sure you're not putting on Well, we tested the co
two levels. You're not getting that here in China. Come
make your shoes over here. And American businesses said, you
(30:57):
know what, I'm going overseas. Until that changes, we will
not get significant, lasting change bringing back American manufacturing. If
you want to do it permanently, it won't come from
a trade deal or a tariff. Eliminate the EPA. You
(31:20):
really want to bring back these jobs, Take the EPA
fire everybody there, reduce their budget to zero, demo the
building to the ground, Pass the law through Congress eliminating
it completely, and voila, American manufacturing jobs will begin will
begin to appear again. But you cannot determine every species,
(31:45):
Every animal species is endangered. Every sort of factory output,
no matter what it is, factory waste, whether it's in
the air of the ground, it's all super toxic that
you're either not allowed to put out or you need
a special permeitter.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
And I'm not even I'm not here saying.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
That we should go back to the days where you
just dump the factory waste in the river and pray
for the best. That's the last thing in the world
I want. I believe in protecting the environment. But you
cannot have regulation after regulation, permit after permit, tax after
fine after fee after tax after fine after fee, and
then eliminate all that red tape by a tariff. It
(32:21):
doesn't work that way at all. Make the business environment
welcoming or the jobs don't come back, not permanently anyway.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
All right, we'll get to the uh, the.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
COVID stuff, which is a little bit ugly, so we'll
wit on that.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Jesse.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
The other night we were having dinner with old friends.
The topic of naming our children, who are all adults,
and how we decided on those names came up. May
I ask how you and ob chose James and Luke?
Is it after family or biblical in nature? Luke is
a great name, sounds like a John Wayne character. Uh, yes,
(33:00):
well it's not family. We wanted. Look, we're both simple people,
very very simple, basic people, and we wanted It's just
a personal preference, you know, I'm not saying everyone has
to be like me. We wanted, yes, we wanted them
to be biblical, so yes, James and lucas biblical New Testament.
(33:20):
Chris and we wanted them to be basic, direct guy names.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
That's what we wanted.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
We debated Sam Jake, the basic direct guy names. That's
what we wanted, and that's why we chose the names.
And it was actually fairly easy. Hey Jesse, longtime listener
from the Red from Blood Red, Alabama. I'm not sure
I've ever heard your take on this. I've always believed
that Lincoln was a tyrant Abraham Lincoln for forcing seceding
(33:52):
states back into the Union through war. It's a spicy take,
I know. My question. Had the Confederacy won their independence
in the War of Northern Aggression? He said civil War
in Kami language. Could one argue that the Union may
not have had the military strength to make an impact in.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
World War One and World War II?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
And perhaps sitting it out entirely. We appreciate what you,
Chris and Corey do for America. Says his name is
Luke actually, oh and he has his first grand baby
on the way, how about that he and his wife
had their first grand baby. That's freaking cool. Congratulations. Okay,
So the question is, what if Lincoln didn't force the
South back into the Union, does America even get involved
(34:39):
in WW one or WW two. I think that would
be the pro Lincoln argument. And hear me out, this
is what I mean. This is what I mean. I'm
not making that pro Lincoln argument. But if someone was
to make the pro Lincoln argument, here's what they'd say. Well,
that's why Lincoln insisted that America stay together by any means.
(35:02):
Lincoln took the entire Constitution and he wiped his butt
with it and he threw it in the trash can
in order to force the South to stay in the Union,
because he believed that anything and everything was permissible in
pursuit of that goal. If you have to abuse, if
you have to violate the Constitution, if you have to
(35:24):
start a war, if you have to kill, no matter what,
the South must stay in the Union, and especially in
southern circles. Everyone listening in the South right now, they're saying, yeah,
that's because Lincoln was a dirty tyrant, And that's actually
very fair. I'm not debating that However, Lincoln would tell
you if he was alive today, well, do you enjoy
(35:46):
America being the biggest, most powerful country on Earth? They
wouldn't have been if I had let half the country
split off. I'm just playing Devil's advocate, That's what he
would say. It's a fascinating argument. I love talking civil
wars stuff like that. It always makes people mad. I'll
have a bunch of angry emails about it tomorrow. Jesse
at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Pour in your hate totally fine,
(36:08):
doesn't bother me at all. But make sure you also
pour some relief factor into yourself, even though I guess
you can't pour it because it's not a liquid. But
either way, you understand what I mean. You need to
get some relief factor in your life. You live with pain,
and you shouldn't. You live with pain and you don't
have to. Pain is optional. Relief factor is drug free.
(36:31):
It is a supplement. I want to stress that because
you know how I feel about drugs. It is a supplement.
It has a unique formula of natural ingredients. The longer
you take it, the more it builds up in your body,
the more the pain that plagues.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
You goes away. Try it.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
All I'm asking is try it. Trying it costs nineteen
dollars in ninety five cents. That's three weeks of it.
If it doesn't work, your paint isn't better, just don't
ever call back. You're out nineteen bucks and ninety five cents.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
One eight hundred the number four relief or go to
relief factor dot com. Let's deal with what Ron Johnson
and the COVID stuff.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
It's ugly. Hang on
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