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May 29, 2025 46 mins

The Supreme Court is under investigation for a massive scandal that got swept under the rug. Jesse Kelly gets to that with Josh Hammer, but before he does, Jesse dives into newly declassified intel from Tulsi Gabbard. This comes as the so-called 'Big Beautiful Bill' has been sent to the Senate. Elon Musk isn't happy about it. Jesse asks Congressman Tim Burchett why he voted for the bill and what he expects to happen going forward. Plus, RFK Jr just made a big announcement. Jennifer Galardi breaks it down. 

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Let's talk about how the communist thinks and as it
pertains to you. Let's talk about the big spending bill.
Tim Burchett is here to discuss that, Josh Camer for
Legal Matters, Jennifer Gallardi, all that and more coming up,
and I'm right, let's talk for a few because James

(00:27):
Comy's in the news. He's running around talking about the
FBI and all the things they did and what he
wants them to do. Anyway, that's in the news, so
let's have another talk. So we haven't had this in
a while about what the communist believes about power, what
democrats believe about power. So first let's understand they believe

(00:48):
in using it. You will never be able to understand
what these people want, why they do what they do,
until you understand they don't share your reality at all.
You are probably a person who believes in abstaining from
using all the power you have. I'm hungry right now.

(01:08):
I actually forgot to eat this morning. I ran around,
didn't have time. If I walk out to use the
restroom at this moment and there's a little old lady
walking up the hall with a pizza, I could of
course take it from her.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
I'm hungry. I want it.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
It could be mine, but I don't think that would
be the right thing to do, so I don't do it.
The communist thinks that way of thinking is absurd. You
want it, you have the power to take it, you
go take it. The communist believes in using power. That's one.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Two. Remember that we all have goals.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
In life, everybody, and a very common way to achieve
your goals. In fact, the most common way, probably the norm,
is you pick the end goal and then you figure
out all the steps you need to get to that
end goal. If I want to play professional football one day,
I don't like chances. But let's say I want to

(02:01):
play professional football one day, Well, I got to hit
the gym. I gotta start getting faster, I gotta start
watching film.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
I have to. I have a lot of work to
do to get.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
From A to B B being the NFL. Well, the
communist has a goal for you as well. The communist
he wants to destroy, he wants to have his revolution,
and guess what you are in the way. This is
not unique to America's communists. It's not unique to our
current era. They've always been this way since the first

(02:31):
Soviet Revolution, we're communists to go over. They look around
at their own people and they figure out who are
the most likely impediments to the revolution they are fighting,
and then they move from that step. Once they've identified
you as you. Then they figure out, well, how do
we get them? How do we stop them in whatever way,

(02:55):
whatever way we can. Maybe we'll kill them, They do
that a lot. They will just hurt them, it will
throw them in prison. Maybe we'll just frighten them. But
whatever we have to do, we have a goal. Remember,
we want to fight our revolution. We want to destroy everything.
These patriotic citizens are in the way. How do we
get them out of the way? And that brings me

(03:15):
to the government. And this is why, in fact, it's
still law in America. This is why it's a law.
You're not allowed to have communists in our government. Of
course we have communists throughout our government. But why would
you want that, Why would you even feel the need
to pass a law like that, Because if you get
communists in your government at any level, doesn't matter what

(03:38):
level it is. It could be your tiny town, it
could be the White House. If you get communists in government,
they will not work on behalf of the country. They
think that's laughably absurd. They don't think about the country.
They're trying to burn down the country. If you get
them in any position of power, whether in the FBI,
the government, whatever, they will use that position to crush

(04:01):
their political opposition. And it doesn't matter what the position is.
If you make one a librarian in your local public library,
that librarian will view her main role as smashing the opposition.
President does the exact same thing I warned you. This

(04:21):
is from twenty twenty one. I warned you about these
people back then.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
For people running your country.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
There is no difference whatsoever between them and any other
totalitarian whoever lived. They're only missing the opportunity to do
those things. Rest assured. If these people had the ability
right now to take you and throw you in jail
for not doing and saying and thinking what you were told,

(04:48):
they would do it without hesitation. They would not lose
one minute of sleep while they did it. The enemy
is not China, it's not Islamic terrorists somewhere. It's not Russia,
it's not North Korea. The enemy is you. Let's all
these people think and now. Courtesy of Tulsey Gabbert credit

(05:11):
to her. We have declassified documents that show the Biden
deministration took people who opposed COVID vaccine mandates. You know,
when the government tried to force you to inject yourself
with something. The government looked at all those people, they
looked at you, and they said, well, here's a group

(05:32):
of people we need to smash. How dare they attempt
to be free to stand up against our authority? And,
like all communists do, they figured out a way to
use government power to do it. You see, they were
busy labeling you as domestic violent extremists. Now what do
they do such things? Good example, Steve Friend, friend of

(05:56):
the show, Actually, former FBI special agent Steve fred has
told us this.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
He's told us this before on the show.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
He was pulled as an FBI agent. He was pulled
off of FBI child pornography cases where they're hunting down
these monsters, and they set him into parking lots of
school board meetings.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
What's he doing in the parking lot.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Well, if you're a mother, father angry that your child's
being taught how to be gay in kindergarten, you're getting
loud about it at the school board.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
The federal government.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
They want you to shut up, So they sent the
FBI to jop down your license plate and label you
a potential domestic terrorist.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
What does this do? What does it do when you
tell us, when.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
You say someone's a potential domestic file and extremist, Well,
let me explain. They open a file on you. Nowadays,
I'm sure it's all digitized, but they open a file
on you.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
I have no doubt.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
I have one sitting somewhere and that Jesse Kelly file.
You see, once they start a file on you, you
become somebody they want to keep their eye on. You,
become somebody thereafter you are officially in the government's crosshairs,
and they will begin putting things in your file. They

(07:10):
will spy on you, they will violate your civil rights,
they may even frame you for crimes.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
But once that file has been.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Opened, they're going to start filling that file up, creating
a dossia as a domestic terrorist they can use government
power to smash. That's why they take steps like labeling
you a domestic violent extremist.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
That's why they do that.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
We have talked about this over and over and over again,
and I warned you about this during the Biden years,
as I saw their rhetoric and how much it repeated itself,
and how much they would go into.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
It over and over and over again. Do you do
you remember all of this?

Speaker 3 (07:49):
That attack that siege was criminal behavior, plain and simple,
and behavior that we the FBI view as domestic terrorism.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
In the FBI's view, the top domestic violent extremist threat
comes from racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists, specifically those
who advocate it for the superiority of the white race.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
Domestic violent extremism is the most acute threat, a terrorism
related threat that we are seeing to our homeland.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
And as President Biden.

Speaker 5 (08:20):
So powerfully put it, words do matter. Leadership matters.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
Donald Trump and the mag Republicans represented extremism that threatens
the very foundations of our republic no matter what the
white supremacists and the extremists.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Say, Why why do they decide on that messaging? And
they trotted it out.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Over and over and over and over and over again.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
They were baking it into the government cake, if you will.
The ability to go after their political opponents with government
power always been their goal. You think people who abuse
government power? If I told you right, Now a Republican,
if I told you Donald Trump was going to go
arrest Nancy Pelosi, not for crimes, but just because she's

(09:12):
a Democrat, so he's gonna arrest.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Her, you wouldn't like that. I hope you wouldn't like that.
I wouldn't like that.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
For a communist, they think that's that way of thinking.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Not liking that.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
They think that's ridiculous. Of course, that's how you use
government power. And that's what we need to discuss in
regards to the FBI. You see, oh, I know, o Cash,
Betel dan Ba, and Gino were on top.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Now I got all that. I got all that, and
I'm glad they are.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
But remember there are thirty five thousand employees at the
largest secret state police agency on the planet. James Comy
was the FBI director. Would you like to know what
kind of mentality flows through the veins at the Federal
Bureau of Investigation? Listen to James Comby talked to Jensaki
about it.

Speaker 7 (09:58):
Let's say you work in the FA. So, yeah, you
know that one of the two political parties is, let
me put it nicely, white supremacist adjacent at a minimum.
And so why would you want to throw your career
on that side of the line and be summoned to
Capitol Hilton. He asked, why are you pursuing these innocent groups?
And so we have a cultural impediment to working it effectively.
That should get more intention than it does.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
They can't hide who they are. They look at power,
all power, government power, especially as something to be used
against their political opponents. Now did the same thing. Stalin
did the same thing all those Stalin purges where he
was murdering people, show trials all across the country. He
publicly justified himself all the time. He was always on

(10:45):
the hunt for those domestic saboteurs, spies, in filtrators, domestic
violent extremists. That's why they've fallen in so much love
with this whole white supremacy line.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
They use it all the time.

Speaker 8 (11:03):
According to the Intelligence Community, terrorism for white supremacy is
the most lethal threat to the homeland today. Not riis
not al Qaeda white supremacist.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
In the FBI's view, the top domestic violent extremist threat
comes from racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists, specifically those
who advocate it for the superiority of the white race.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
A huge chunk of those domestic terrorst investigations involve racially motivated,
violent extremist motivated terrorist attacks, and the majority of those
of the racially motivated violent extremists attacks are fueled by
some kind of white supremacy.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Didn't you find that odd? Why? What?

Speaker 1 (11:55):
You've probably never met a white supremacist in your life.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
I don't think I have.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
You've I'm sure seen a couple guys online, but never
met one. It's not a pervasive problem. Why would the
top law enforcement officers in the country, including the Attorney
General take that line? That line, you see, it married
perfectly with the Democrat line forever that all Republicans are
white supremacists, white supremacists. You're a white supremacist, lo And behold,

(12:22):
the fbis after white supremacists, and look at that. You
have your justification for using the Federal Bureau of Investigation
to raid mar Lago, to arrest pro lifers, to infiltrate
the Catholic Church. This is not a mentality of the past.
This is a mentality of the now. I know we
have new leadership, but these people are all throughout our

(12:43):
government and we have to be aware of it. And boy,
the things they're going to do if they take power again.
James Gomy basically said it.

Speaker 7 (12:52):
I know Republicans these days aren't big in thinking about
principle or precedent. They're going to be deeply sorry that
that disappears, because someday there will be a Democratic president
and there'll be investigations of Republican office holders. If I'm them,
I sure would want these career people in place making
sure that it's done in the right way. Look, I've

(13:13):
long thought that you could shrink the size of some
of the Department of Justice headquarters units. But this is
like burning down the house and then standing in front
of the pile of ashes and saying, yeah, we really
did need to.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Retile the guest bath. Right.

Speaker 7 (13:25):
This is destroying the place at a cost that's going
to take years and years to rebuild.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
There's going to be investigations into Republican officials if these
people take power again. Of course, he knows they just
did that. It's got done doing that. But remember, James
call me. You don't need to think of him like
a human being. He's a communist. He believes in using
that power against his political opponents. All communists do all

(13:58):
that may have made you un comfortable, but I am right.
Let's talk about the Supreme Court, more specifically the FBI
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Speaker 2 (15:03):
We'll be back.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
So what is happening at the Supreme Court because my
friend Dan Bonngino made a little announcement that they're digging
into something. That's something being the leaking of the Dobbs decision,
you know, the overturning of rovers is way that leaked
and then the animals took to the streets and it's
not supposed to work like that. Joining me now, my
friend Josh Hammer, host of the Josh Hammer Show, Josh, Okay,

(15:35):
what's going on? First of all, let's recap this Dobbs
decision stuff.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
What happened with the leak? Why is the leak even
a big deal? They made the decision?

Speaker 9 (15:45):
Jesse, I could tell you exactly the date, and I
could tell you exactly where I was when I found out.
And every time that years later, you know exactly what
time it was and where you were when something happens.
It's generally a good indication that it was a big
effing deal. As Obiden famously said about Obamacare passing, it
was May third, twenty twenty two. I was in my
apartment getting back from dinner in Miami, Florida, around nine pm.

Speaker 10 (16:08):
I remember like it was yesterday.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
This was an.

Speaker 9 (16:12):
Incredible thing, just astonishing thing to happen to have a
draft opinion of the United States Supreme Court leak. You
have to understand, Jesse, just how few people had access
to this particular document. You're talking here about the nine
justices their law clerks, and in theory that's literally it.
So eight of the nine justices have four law clerks apiece.

(16:34):
The Chief is entitled to five. Sometimes it only takes four.
Either way, You're not looking at a whole lot of
people here. So I mean, maybe someone prinked out the
document and threw it in the trash and the janitor
just happened to look in. I'm not buying it. I
have never bought it for a second. There, and the
court's internal investigation didn't exactly do a particularly robust job

(16:54):
and trying to turn over the goods. Did it no,
far from it. Actually, they brought the former Homelands security
secretary from the Bush administration, Michael Chertoff, who came in
and led this third part investigation, essentially said we are
able to conclude nothing. I don't buy it. I don't
buy it for a second. I'm not sure exactly what's
going on. I have frankly never been sure exactly what's

(17:15):
going on. I have my suspicions as to who might
have leaked this thing. They are a handful of far
left law clerks from notorious track records. There was one
liberal law clerk with long standing ties to one of
the political writers on the byline that leaked it there,
so that would be a decent prospect. Jesse, I'll get
in trouble for saying this. I have long thoughts entirely
possible that Sonya so mayor herself did. Actually I actually

(17:37):
think that she is not above that thing, that she
is that low. But either way, this is one of
the great unsolved mysteries in American political and legal life
over my entire adult lifetime, especially over the past few
years there. And I have been saying for years that
I will not forget it, and I'm not going to
forget and I hope God willing that we get to
the bottom of it.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Josh, we'll come back to this specific case. But could
you elaborate why it matters so much? Because it very
clearly does. You rarely get that fired up about anything.
The decision had been made. Who cares of it leaks early?
Why is it a big deal?

Speaker 9 (18:11):
Well, decision was not quite made yet, so this came
in made twenty twenty two. The decision came out in
late June, so it came out about a month and
a half later. So the timing of this league was
done with a deliberate intent to try to dissuade the
justices who were going to sign to overturn rovers his
way from doing so. Jesse, Let's remember that's why Nicholas Rosky,

(18:32):
this young left wing domestic anarchist from California, decided to
fly across country from California to Maryland. He brought his handgun,
he brought zip ties, burglaries tools, a screwdriver, trying to
then burglarize the home of Bret Kavanaugh and ultimately murder
him God forbid for being on the side of overturning
rovers Way. Now, Rosky at the last minutes decided to

(18:54):
call the cops on himself there, so he didn't go
through with the deed.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
But that was the intent.

Speaker 9 (18:59):
Whoever leaked this, whether it was a member of the court,
whether it was a clerk, or whether it was the
janitor or someone else. Whoever did this had one goal
and one goal only, and that was to cause mayhem
and indeed incentivize and fullment of violence against the justice
of the United States Supreme Court. That is why you
saw these not always particularly peaceful protests outside the homes

(19:19):
of John Roberts, Amy Coney, Barrett, Brettavanaugh. That is why
you saw this nut John in California, Rosky fl You
tried to assassinate Brekavanaugh there, Jesse I clarked on a
federal court, now the Supreme Court, but the Fifth Circuit
courts have to work with the understanding that this is
not going to happen. You're not going to trust your
colleagues if you have an understanding that when you put
in an email, when you put in a draft opinion,

(19:40):
what one clerk, one judge says for another. There the
court simply cannot function if there is any expectation that
what is said and discussed internally can ever be released publicly.
So it'll have a deeply chilling effect on the way
that the court conducts his business. But most importantly there
this almost led to the assassination of Brett Kavanaugh.

Speaker 11 (19:59):
OK.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
You obviously have some clerk experience yourself with your legal background.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Could you elaborate for those of us who are never.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Going to be in those rooms with all the smart,
intelligent legal minds. What security protocols are in place? You
already mentioned there's a couple of filthy comedies, because of
course there would be. That's who's going to work for
Kadtanji Brown Jackson in Sodom Mayor and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
They're not going to find sane people.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
They're going to find vile little communists who will have
no compunction about leaking things out whenever. So do you
what do you have to have your phone monitored your computer?
How does this work?

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Because what's to stop these people?

Speaker 9 (20:38):
Well, it's a very legitimate question. So, I mean, there
is real security at federal court houses. The feral courthouse
that I clerked in how to mal detector, there were
federal agents there. There was sometimes local police outside the
building as well. I've been to the US Supreme Court.
There is certainly a mal detector or in security as
well there. But you know, I think that there are
a lot of federal judges these days, Jesse who increasingly

(21:01):
are not necessarily always trustworthy, and they want to take
security into their own hands. I think that I think
that there are an increasingly large number of judges, especially
Republican nominated Trump nominated right of center of judges who
want to actually carry a firearm, you know, in their
chambers there, in their hearings when they're walking because I mean,
think about it logistically there, I mean the judge, yes,

(21:23):
the judge will typically park in the parking lot beneath
the courthouse there. But I mean, you know, judges like politicians,
I mean, we're all ultimately exposed in some form or
other there. So, yeah, a lot of these people want
ultimately want to carry guns and take matters into their
own hands. But all this is part of the of
the and here's the important context. All of this is
part of the left decades long assault on right of

(21:44):
center judges and people who adhere to write of center
constitutional principles.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Jesse.

Speaker 9 (21:48):
This goes back literally as far as nineteen eighty seven,
when Ted Kennedy and Joe Biden tag team to Bork
Robert Borke. Robert Borke was Reagan's nominee for the Supreme Court. There,
Ted Kenny give this infamous speech about how Bob Bork
wants to bring back the segregationists of lunch counters in Greensboro,
North Carolina, women are going to be having coadhanger back
alley abortions. Four years after that was when Joe Biden

(22:12):
trotted out Anita Hill to produce to Clarence Thomas, a
Clarence Thomas referred to as a high tech lynching people.
Forget about Sam Alito his own contentious Supreme Court confirmation
hearing in two thousand and six. It was so terrible
that his wife, sitting behind her on the c SPAN camera,
was literally brought to tears because she was just so
struck what these Democrat senators were saying about her upstanding husbands.

(22:32):
And then Breck Havana, Oh my god, twenty eighteen, Christine Blasi,
for that speaks for itself. So for literally decades prior
to when I was born, these demons, these demons on
the left, have been doing all they can to foment
the seeds of discords and ultimately to try to put
targets on the back of conservative judges. Breck Havanaugh again
was almost assassinated because of this.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Did the Supreme Court tell Donald Trump that he could
deport people to South Sudan or He's still just ask.

Speaker 9 (23:02):
Ye Look, ultimately, Jesse, the Supreme Court has no such authority.
I mean if the Supreme Court even were in theory
and they did not do so in uncertain legal terms
to be cleared, but if they were to very clearly
say you shall deport this individual or these individuals to
a certain country there it would be noll and void
for lack of jurisdiction. When it comes to immigration and

(23:23):
enforcement actions, there is something constitutional law called the pullinary
power doctrine, which essentially said that the political branches Congress
and the executive branch have full, sweeping, absolute culinary power
to enforce this nation's immigration laws. The first time that
a federal immigration enforcement statue was ever declared and constitutional
by the Court was twenty eighteen. We went, you know,

(23:43):
two hundred and thirty years whatever before we got there.
So immigration laws are presumptively constitutional. The executive branch has
the ability to enforce that, and frankly, when the Supreme
Court attempts attempts to try to dictate the executive branch
how to enforce immigration law, they are wildly, wildly overstepping
their boundaries.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Josh, thank you, as always, my men, You know, all right,
all right, Congressman Tim Burchett's gonna join us and we're
gonna have a long talk about the bill, the big
beautiful bill as it's known. Where is it now? How
bad is it? How good is it? Talk to the

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Speaker 2 (25:19):
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Speaker 12 (25:31):
So you know, I was like disappointed to see the
massive spending bill. Frankly, which increases the bunch deps that
doesn't decrease it, and that reminds the work that the
Noche team is doing.

Speaker 8 (25:45):
I actually thought that when this big, beautiful bill came along.
I mean, like everything he's done on Doge gets wiped
out in.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
The first year.

Speaker 12 (25:53):
I think, I think a bill can be can be
can be big.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Or it can be beautiful.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
I can't figure out what's what with this bill, but
I know somebody who knows the ins and outs of
the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
What do we even have a bill as at this point?

Speaker 1 (26:09):
As at this moment in time. Joining me now Congressman
Tim Burchett from the state of Tennessee. All right, Tim,
you voted for the I guess.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
A House version.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
I don't know if that's the final House version.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Senate.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
I'm not sure if it's actually going to go anywhere.
There's some big senators out there pooh pooing it pretty hard.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Where is it now?

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Is it great? Is it kind of crappy?

Speaker 2 (26:30):
But you feel for us to vote for where is
this whole thing?

Speaker 11 (26:34):
Well, of course the Senate as it now, and they're
going to make some cuts, and that's what needs to happen.

Speaker 10 (26:38):
To get it out of the House. We had to.

Speaker 11 (26:42):
There's some things that had to go on it that
probably shouldn't been on it. One for instances, the Sault
State and local tax deduction that allows these bye dates
run by Democrats, they run up the bailey and I
don't care if they do an LGBTQ museum. I don't
care what they do with their money. It's their business.
But they raised their taxes to pay for this stuff.

(27:03):
And then they want states like Tennessee and Florida, which
don't have an income tax that balance our budgets to
supplant them or get them a scholarship or what have you,
to come through it and allows them to take that
off their taxes. I think that's wrong. I hope the
Senate takes that portion out. You had six people that

(27:25):
needed that wanted that vote. The president wasn't really foreign
and then apparently we caved and put it in there
to get the bill out. So I think at some point, though,
we've got to realize we have a spending problem and
there is no way we're going to tax ourselves into prosperity.
We need to start cutting more. If we just went
back under pre COVID spending levels, and then goodness, can

(27:48):
you name me one government program that's been added since
COVID that you cannot live without.

Speaker 10 (27:54):
I dare say there aren't any. But we can't even
get to that point.

Speaker 11 (27:58):
We have no fiscal mature already whatsoever. And people are
about staying in power, and that's what they do.

Speaker 10 (28:06):
They vote to.

Speaker 11 (28:09):
Further their political careers and not to further the country
that we live in. And it's human nature. And one
thing we did do is we did slow the rate
of growth. Although the greater growth is still increasing. And
you have a car coming at you and you know
it needs to go to the opposite direction. At some
point you've got to stop it and then send it

(28:31):
back in the opposite direction. And we went a long
ways towards stopping it by reducing the rate of growth.
And hopefully in the future will will wise up. But again,
when you have twelve percent or twenty or less than
thirty percent of the population that votes, this is what
you get.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Can you I've talked about this before.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Can you tell me what goes through these people of
people's minds as best you can. I'm not asking you
to read people's but everyone says unsustainable, unsustainable. Debt's unsustainable,
and of course it is. I mean, I'm more unlike
me can see it's unsustainable. I can do basic math.
Moodies is telling us the only wants to buy our bonds.
They're going to start basically either hurting our credit score now,

(29:14):
but no one wants to cut. We can't even get
back to pre COVID, which is so bonkers to me.
It just makes my blood pressure go through the roof.
The people voting on this stuff, they say unsustainable into
the television camera all the time, and then they go vote.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
For more spending. Could you marry those two worlds for me?

Speaker 11 (29:31):
Yeah, Well, it's the dale where you go home and
you preach the Maga to the you know, at the
Maga dinners or the Reagan Day Dinners or the Lincoln
Day dinners, and then you go back to DC and
you sell your country down the road. And we don't,
we don't follow what's going on. We've got that, you know,
if we could just do like we do in Tennessee

(29:52):
and have single issue spending bills that way, if you
wouldn't have a three thousand page spending mail and you
would have to justify and I've heard them say, well, birchut,
I'll be here all night, Well that gumment you make
one hundred and seventy thousand dollars.

Speaker 10 (30:03):
A year, get off your butt and.

Speaker 11 (30:05):
You know, go to get out there and work.

Speaker 10 (30:08):
But nobody will.

Speaker 11 (30:10):
And you know, the lobbyist have people's ears, and it
just it just never changes.

Speaker 10 (30:15):
And all you're doing is voting to get re elected.

Speaker 11 (30:17):
You're not voting at the case in point, why are
we building aircraft carriers when all the people tell us
that it's you know, you have a trillion dollars worth
of apparatus sitting on a deck and a three hundred
thousand dollars missile sends it to the bottom of the ocean.
And yet we're in the process of building three aircraft carriers.
We have a Pentagon that has not passed the last
eight audits. And I cannot find a half a trillion dollars,

(30:41):
A half a trillion dollars is a is a destroyer,
and so I mean that's the kind of thing we're
dealing with, and yet you cannot And why are we
building aircraft carriers because they're built in powerful legislators districts
Republican and Democrat. And it just goes on and on,
and we will not vote to do what's right. We

(31:02):
will vote to keep ourselves in office.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
All right, let's move on to something that's hopefully great,
but it probably sucks too.

Speaker 10 (31:11):
Well to be kicked off about. I have a building
fund the Taliban.

Speaker 11 (31:18):
We're sending the Taliban forty million dollars a week. I
have a State Department document that's been unclassified that pretty
much points out that we've given them almost five billion.

Speaker 10 (31:29):
Dollars with a B.

Speaker 11 (31:31):
The Taliban, they'll hate us for free. They throw gay
people off of buildings, They rape women and kids, and
then they blamed the women and stone them to death.
That's what we're dealing with. Yet we're through our NGOs.
We have almost take a guess at how many n
g os we have operating right now in Afghanistan.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Oh, gosh, one hundred.

Speaker 11 (31:55):
Almost a thousand now. And Elon explained it to me.
He said, basically, these NGOs. You know, you've got a
powerful legislator's wife and or girlfriend that works possibly both,
that work in one of these nngos. The money flows
out of the taxpayer's pocket to the United Nations or

(32:16):
one of these other agencies and and the State Department
what have you, And it flows into these NGOs, and
then where does that money go. The Taliban takes their
cut off the top and any of there's three major
banks over there and they control them, and so they
take a cut right off the top, and then the
NGOs they get their cut there and then guess what,
they send money back to the United States of America

(32:39):
and Elon. That's why I think Elon's been kind of
excommunicated by Congress because he was getting ready to point
out that some of that money is flowing right back
into Congressman's pockets. And we knew it going. We knew
it was going into campaigns, but he seemed to think
it was going a little further than that. And remember

(33:00):
he used what's the paper trail, and and Elon has
been escorted out.

Speaker 10 (33:06):
So that's very unfortunate.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
It is, it really is. I'd say it all the time,
and it's true.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
It is the largest criminal organization on the planet by
a mile. It's gotten not even close.

Speaker 10 (33:19):
Trade.

Speaker 11 (33:20):
You know, I have a bill dealing with with genetic material.
You know, you'll go get your mouth swabbed. One of
those things you find out your your family was all
kings and stuff and queens and nobody's ever a horse fast.
But anyway, they and I guess who's buying up all
that material. The Chinese. They're creating the genome. We were
told they're creating the genome to say, hey, American women,

(33:44):
that we're developing a disease or a bug that could
stop pregnant women American women from having children or of
a child bearing age. Now, I mean, you wouldn't think anything.
It's possible. Of course, COVID came along. We're finding more
and more about it out about it. I can't even
get that mail passed, you know, because the lobbyists got

(34:04):
the ear of of staff members and things like that.
Money's flowing every which way.

Speaker 10 (34:11):
Folks better.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
All right, let's by the way, I promise you the
Kelly family comes from a long line of criminals with
no kings, and there I guarantee there are no Kings
and the Kellys.

Speaker 11 (34:28):
There's two families of Marchets in our community. One went
to work and one went to college. Our side went
to college. The ones that went to work or making
all the.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Money that's usually it goes. All right, let's shift gears
and let's beat up the other side for a moment.
That at least will make me feel better. Joe Biden
ran the country, but of course he didn't run the
country for four years. Someone did, was that Joe Biden?
Was it Anita Donne? I mean, God only knows, but
are we going to find out? Because on Memorial Day,

(34:55):
I'll be honest with you, I stayed up late. I
had an extra glass of bourbon toasting the fallen and
I thought about thirteen dead service members at Abbegate, and
I sure would like to know who the person is
that ordered those guys back into that mall.

Speaker 10 (35:09):
Yeah, that's an interesting thing.

Speaker 11 (35:12):
I don't know if we'll ever know, really, because Joe
Biden is conveniently incapacitated. And I say, you know, I
used to think that conspiracy theorists were nuts. Now I
just think they're realists writing our current history.

Speaker 10 (35:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (35:26):
You know, when you have the sniper who testifies be
for our committee and tells us that the guy who
was carrying the bomb the satchel charge they had, in
fact identified him twice and was told to stand down
by our pentagon in state department, that begs to question
what the hell's going on over there and who.

Speaker 10 (35:45):
Was running that auto ten Chairman Comber.

Speaker 11 (35:49):
I actually talked to Chairman Comber this morning, and he
is going to go after him. But again, you know,
if Justice departments still got a press charge, I mean,
they're the ones that got to finally do something. They
got to put somebody in cuffs and take them out
of this brat whole town that we call Washington and DC.
And until that happens, you're going to see this happen
time and time again. I suspect somebody's going to give

(36:12):
somebody up, some smaller level staff or will probably do
a little time and then go on the book tour
if they stay alive and are not allowed to commit suicide,
but shooting themselves in the back of the head thirteen
times are found in a Washington suburb and claim that
they were robbed and mugged, and yet they still have
their expensive watch and wallet on them.

Speaker 10 (36:33):
But anyway, but I digress.

Speaker 11 (36:35):
If I think Chairman comer Is will be diligent, I
just hope Congress pays attention, and I hope the American
media pays attention a little more than they have in
the past.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Gotta be careful in those suburbs, especially around Arkansas. Tim,
thank you. I appreciate you pretty.

Speaker 10 (36:53):
Much, sir, God bless you brother. Pray for our country.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
We'll do.

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Speaker 2 (37:49):
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Speaker 13 (37:59):
Kennedy or your age age as a secretary, and I'm
here today was NIH Director doctor j Bodicharia and FDA
Commissioner doctor Marty McCarry. I couldn't be more pleased to
announce that, as of today, the COVID vaccine for healthy
children and healthy pregnant women has been removed from the

(38:19):
CDC Recommended immunization schedule.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Well that's great news, I mean, I think so. I
don't know why anyone would take that poison, but I'm happy.
I bet Jennifer's happy joining me now. Jennifer Glardi's senior
policy analyst at the Heritage Foundation. Hey, Jennifer, when did
you become a senior policy analyst? I didn't know they
let women did that over there.

Speaker 14 (38:46):
I know they're awfully open minded at Heritage. They do
allow women and particularly people like me in there about
a month ago. So I'm just trying to get that
ice machine, Jesse on my counters, trying to make an
ability to get that ice machine. You get to where.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
You are, well, hang in there, hanging there, you'll be
there one day. All in all serious is Look, I'm
happy this is happening. I don't want to be mister
cynic like I always am. I'm sure I've never been
on there to begin with. It is good. Good things
are happening at the CDC and other health areas, right, yes.

Speaker 14 (39:23):
And like you said, don't be too cynical. It's a
good start. I think it's opening. It's an opening to
begin to have a conversation about the entire recommended vaccine
schedule for kids, which me and my new colleagues at
Heritage will be doing that. You have to be smart
and incremental about these things. Remember that people have been

(39:44):
bamboozled for so long with poor health information, So of
course they're going to be skeptical and call you quacks
when you start to question. They're firmly held, long standing beliefs,
and you'll always have those zealots, the burn it down types,
who will never be sadsfied with those incremental steps to
policy change. But you know this better than anyone. The

(40:05):
reality is the heavy hand of government can always be
used by the other side that you don't like very
much for horrendous, terrible policies. Take for example, in the
health movement right imagine what the left could do to
ban meat production in the name of environment or global warming.
So we've already seen countries in Europe try to stifle

(40:27):
farmer's production, and those in the MAHA movement who understand
how DC works are really thrilled about this. I can't
remember a time when a vaccination or any health policy,
frankly has been rolled back even when there's good data
to support it.

Speaker 10 (40:40):
So it's a win.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Why is it never rolled back? That's an odd thing.
Surely all of them aren't great, right, Why do they
never roll back? Does? It's just come down to money
and the fact that the pharmaceutical companies have purchased our
FDA long ago.

Speaker 14 (40:57):
Yes, and also our politicians. I was listening to your
snippet with Mike Bens and kind of lobbying for an
increase in salary for some of our government, you know,
our representatives, because they actually don't get paid very much
and so offers to you know, stand up for big
pharma can be very appealing to have that extra cash

(41:19):
in their pocket. So money definitely has a lot to
do with it. It's also the entrenched system.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
You've now got.

Speaker 14 (41:27):
I think the government represents fifteen percent of employment in
the country, ten to fifteen percent. Got a lot of
people employed by the government and a lot of people
employed by so called healthcare. I did a piece on
this probably last year, outlining the amount of money we
spend on research for cancer. Where are you going to
go with all these foundations? Right? The Cancer Foundation, the

(41:50):
Diabetes Association, all of these associations that get government grants.
There's a lot of money. There is a lot of
money in keeping people sick. We've heard that Kennedy and
Casey means over and over again. But I think we
are starting to just chip away, and I think we
have to be optimistic about the potential.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
A lot of this comes down to what at least
a lot of rfk's focus, and I know you're hot
on this too, is childhood disease.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
It's wild.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
It's not just you know, old graying, bald guys like me,
you get sick out there and die.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
It's kids. Now.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Kids are sick, Kids are fat, Kids are hugely fat
in this country, just waddling around everywhere. And I don't
understand what happened.

Speaker 14 (42:35):
I think we've talked about this. I believe there's a
couple factors. Part of it is what they're eating. It's
a huge part of it. This shift away from whole
food diets to processed foods running a piece right now
on essentially, I'm not sure if you knew this. You
probably did, You're very well educated on these things. But
Big Tobacco essentially bought up a lot of the food

(42:57):
companies like Craft Kellogg, and they utilized this same addictive
let's say, the same research that proved tobacco to be addictive.
They kind of utilize those same techniques for food. So
how do we make these food products more addictive to people?
How do we make it less the like you're almost irresistible.

(43:21):
I'm trying to not to find the right word, but
these foods like irresistible where you're actually never satiated, but
you keep wanting more. And then they use the same
marketing techniques to market this food to kids, which is
where the food dice came in.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Right.

Speaker 14 (43:33):
So you've got this system, the odds stacked against you,
and then you just have a society that's become more
and more comfortable, that doesn't move, that keeps kids in
their seats, an education system that tells boys that they
can't go rough house and play anymore, and tells girls
that cooking and learning how learning some domestic skills are

(43:55):
is sexist. So I mean, you start to pull the
string on some of these things. And there's so this
cross cut so many different aspects of our culture right now,
and I just think we have to slowly start to
inculcate kids with new education about food, get their hands dirty,
get them active again. One of my biggest issues would

(44:17):
just be get physical education back in schools. Get those
standards up.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Yeah no, if you can't be humiliated in dodgeball, you're
not actually in school. Jennifer, thank you so much. I
appreciate you as always.

Speaker 14 (44:32):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
I was an incredible dodgeball player. I ever told you that.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
I went not very fast, but I catch everything and
I can throw really well, and I was dominant in dodgeball.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
We'll do lighten the mood next. All right, it's time
to lighten the mood.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
And I love making fun of the French.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
It's just a pastime. Why because I'm an American.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
And so when McCrone gets hit in the face by
his grandmother, sorry his wife on a plane, I think
it's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
I seem so happy. All right, I'll see him

Speaker 11 (46:02):
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