The rhetoric is heating up from the Trump administration towards Iran, as Israel makes its demands known. Jesse Kelly gives his reaction to this and gets analysis from Lee Smith. This comes as the FBI is revealing bombshell documents concerning China. Jesse unpacks these as well. You'll also hear from retired ICE agent Victor Avila about a major reversal in U.S. immigration policy. Plus, Liz Wheeler provides an important MAHA update.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
All right, let's talk about this whole Iran thing. Let's
talk about foreign policy in general. Let's talk about immigration policy.
Did it change? Lee Smith shows up with some opinions.
All that and more coming up, and I'm writing, Okay,
(00:25):
before we get to foreign policy, with all this Israel
Iran stuff and a little prediction I'm going to make
and all that, we have to do something we hate
to do, but something we believe in. On the show,
we honor yet another fallen service member, especially those who
died during training. They are the forgotten heroes. They died
(00:45):
serving their country, no different than somebody charging a machine gun.
Nest in war and a chief Warrant officer, Dustin chief
ward officer too. I'm sorry. Dustin K. Wright a pilot,
an Army pilot. He was with the hundred and first
comment that Aviation Brigade. He died during a training mission.
He died for his country, gave up his life for
(01:07):
his country. It is dangerous to serve in the military.
It's dangerous to fly a helicopter. Helicopters have problems. Helicopters
fall out of the sky and kill people who are
in them. He signed up to serve his country, and
he gave his life for our country and he deserves
our unending respect. All right, all right, now, let's let's
(01:32):
talk about Israel, in Iran and America and all the
stuff that's happening right now before we get into Donald
Trump and Tulsi Gabbard and my prediction and where we're going.
The main reason I'm want to talk to you tonight
is not to give you the latest update on the
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bombings and at Tel Aviv and America. But I'm not
doing that. Not doing that. The reason i wanted to
talk to you about this is first, foreign policy is
not simple, and you should beware of anybody, and yourself included,
because I'm tempted to do it too. We're all human.
(02:15):
Beware of anybody simplifying something that is complicated. People love
to do this with foreign policy, with historical foreign policy,
with current foreign policy, with future foreign policy. This is good,
this is bad. They good, they bad, He good, he bad.
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You see it all the time. The people will take
incredibly complicated affairs with different players on every side, different motivations,
and they'll Civil war is actually a perfect example. Americans
are taught about the Civil War North good, South bad.
That is the extent of American knowledge about an ongoing,
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horrible civil war of with six hundred thousand dead, angels
and demons on every side, different motivations, moving parts everywhere,
all simplified down to north good, South bad. That's how
people handle things. That's how people handle wars, conflicts, really
most things. But foreign policy is not simple. It is
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never simple. It's never clear what is right what is wrong.
So if you are sitting here watching me right now,
and you have a strong opinion about Israel Iran, that
is fine. That is fine. I get that one way
or the other. Don't care. I have a strong opinion,
that's fine, But remember it's not simple. Okay, if you're
sitting here right now and you don't know what to believe,
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I kind of like this. I don't like Iran. I
don't want them to have a new but I am
kind of nervous about That's totally fine. If you're sitting there,
I'll hell you right now because I don't want to
be mellium out the whole thing, about the whole thing.
That's that's really where I'm at. I'm in to watch
and wait mode. I'm very apprehensive after twenty years of
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failed Gwatt failure. I also don't want Iran to have
a nuclear weapon. I'm very apprehensive of where all this
might go. I'm watching, I'm waiting. Wherever you are is fine.
But what you shouldn't do is simplify it. It's not simple.
It's complicated, different motivations. Look, think about America alone. We
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won't even get into all the other countries. Just America alone.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
We have.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Competing interests in this country, competing ideas, foreign, domestic ideas.
We do have a little bit of that. Wouldn't you say,
that's just our country. Now, fit all those competing ideas,
competing interests with Israel, competing ideas, competing interests, different motivations. Oh,
but let's loop in Iran, competing interests, competing ideas. Is
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China involved? China buys twenty percent of their oil for me?
Run involved? What about Russia? It's complicated. There are a
lot of players. But let's discuss where we are. Because
Donald Trump has gone to social media and that's where well,
that's where foreign polsy's done now, right in front of
our eyes, which is kind of cool. He's said Tehran
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needs to be evacuated. He came out and called for
unconditional surrender. Today also gave a not so subtle reference
to the fact that he knows where the big cheese is,
he knows where the ayatola is, and we can kill
him any time we want, not saying we will, but
we might. And that brings us to this Trump is.
(05:42):
He's not what people pretend he is on both sides,
and here's what I mean. There are people on both
sides who believe that Donald Trump is this ultimate strong
man that will bring back America's strength all of her enemies.
There are people who believe that. There are people also
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on both sides who believe that Donald Trump is a
complete dove when it comes to forum policy, totally hands off,
just wants to take care of America and get some
get some of those stale factories back up to work. Again,
he's not really either of those things. He's a mixture,
I would say, of both of those things. But again,
we like to make things simple. He's a dove, here's
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a hawk. Here's what he said about this before.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
What specifically is better than a ceasfire? What are you
looking for here? And then a real end down a ceasfire?
And then there's something that would be permanent or more
giving up entirely. Is that okay? To are you close
there is? Are you possible? Is that possible on a
twenty four?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Certainly impossible? Complete give them? That's possible?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
All right. So here's how he clearly stands now when
you call for unconditional surrender. I know the audio was
a little rough there because he was on a plane,
but when he's talking about not a ceasefire and and
a complete give up in his own words, that's what
he said. When you take that stance, whatever you believe
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about it, right or wrong, when you take that stance,
then you have guaranteed it's about to get hot. Because
if you're the Ayatola, you don't have any choices. Right,
you give up all your power, you give up your country.
Undoubtedly you face a war crimes trial or you fight.
So if that's the stance you've taken, that means you're
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going to war. That brings me to know how we
were talking about there are different factions in America, different
competing factions, even on our side. That brings me to
Tulsa Gabbert. Tulca Gabbert is the DNI Director of National
Intelligence there was a meeting at Camp David. It convened
all the heads of the family, if you will. That's
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a Godfather reference. Taulsey Gabbard wasn't invited. Dn I wasn't invited.
And then Trump said, well, this is yesterday. Trump said
this publicly about Tulsi because Taulsi, just three months ago
had testified in front of Congress that Iran's not making
a nuclear weapon. Here's what Trump said about that.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
From people always said that you don't believe it Ron
should be able to have a nuclear weapon, But how
close do you personally think that they were to getting one?
Because Tulsea Garrett Toulsey Gerbert's testify in March that the
intelligence community said Iran wasn't building a nuclear woman.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Here what she said, I think of a very close
to heaven.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I don't care what she said, all right, So I
don't care whose side you're on the whole Trump versus
Taulsie thing. But I want you to watch one more
little video. This was last week, two weeks ago. Tul
Gabbard went online and she put out it was long.
This is a brief version of it. It was three
minutes long on the original version, but she put out
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this video really opposing war nuclear war issue.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Was I recently visited Hiroshima in Japan and stood at
the epicenter of a city that remains scarred by the
unimaginable horror caused by a single nuclear bomb dropped in
nineteen forty five, eighty years ago. Because as we stand
here today, closer to the brink of nuclear annihilation than
ever before, political elite and warmongers are carelessly fomenting fear
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and tensions between nuclear powers. Perhaps it's because they are
confident that they will have access to nuclear shelters for
themselves and for their families that regular people won't have
access to. So it's up to us, the people, to
speak up and demand an end to this madness. We
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must reject this pas to nuclear war and work toward
a world where no one has to live in fear
of a nuclear holocaust.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Does that sound like somebody who's going to be thrilled
that we have carrier groups sailing towards Iran and the
President publicly announcing that we're about to kill the Ayatola.
So here's the little prediction. Telsea Gabbert will not be
DNI for very much longer. When the president comes out
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and says, I don't care what you say. When you
don't get the invite to the head party at Camp David,
when you are obviously going to be upset about this
current direction. Maybe she quits, maybe she gets fired, maybe
she resigns, you know, to go pursue a family. They
love to do that whole thing. I don't know exactly
what the details will be. We're going to have a
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new DNI very soon. Either way. The point of all
this is watch, don't simplify anything. Watch take in information.
There will be lies spreading all over from every side,
as there are in every war. We have to be
discerning people to sift through the madness. All that may
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sift through information, like we talked about, Go to people
you trust and figure out what's real what's not real,
Especially during war. We're always surrounded by lives in this era,
in every other era. When it comes to war, what
is real and what is not It's hard to figure out.
So get information from people you trust. I trust guys
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like Lee Smith always have. You know. Lee comes on
this show as often as we can get our hands on.
I'm best selling author. Smith joins me now to give
us a little bit of background so we can bone
up on what we're dealing with here. Okay, Lee, let's
rewind before we get into anything today. Iran's nuclear program,
how did they start it? Why did they start it,
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why has it accelerated? Give us some background on it.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Well, I mean you know this. I mean actually, the
Iranian nuclear program probably goes back to some time in
the seventies. It predates the Islamic Revolution. One of the
reasons that the Islamic Republic has wanted the nuclear weapons
program is to be able to push the United States
out of the Middle East. It's very important to understand
that for all the TALKI vert oh, the Iranians arrivals
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with Israel or Saudi Arabia, No, that's not true. That's
not how they've ever seen it. They see the United
States as the power in the Middle East, in the
Persian Gulf, as it has been since nineteen forty four,
because at that point, the United States made a deal
with Saudi Arabia saying, in exchange for you making sure
cheap oil, you keep pumping out cheap oil to keep
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the world economy going, and to make sure that America
is sitting on top of the world, we will protect
that oil. And we've seen different times when the United
States has had to protect that oil. For instance, in
nineteen ninety one nineteen ninety two against Saddam Hussein's forces
when they invaded Kuwait. So the Iranians have always had
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their eye on us, pushing us out of the region.
The other people they're threatening, of course, are American allies
like Israel, like Saudi Arabia, like the United Arab Emirates.
But again we are the main target. The reason there's
a lot of questions. People have said, well, Okay, we've
been hearing about this for decades, what's going on now,
what's the urgency now? Well, the urgency now is is
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that after Donald Trump during his first term, withdrew from
Barack Obama's nuclear deal the Joe Biden administration. While they
were not able to re enter the nuclear deal as
much as they wanted to, nonetheless they made available to
the Iranians many, many billions of dollars. And when we're
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talking about the money that the Iranians put into their
war chest, it goes in some cases for terror outfits,
for terror proxies like Hamas, like Hesbala, but it also
goes into their nuclear weapons program. So people want to know, like, wow,
how did it, how did this happen all of a
sudden out of the blue, whise Donald Trump really alarmed
about this?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Right now?
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Well, again, Remember Donald Trump has been talking about Habieranki
and have a bomb. He's been talking about this actually
even before he started running in twenty fifteen, so he's
been pretty consistent on this. But the reason it's urgent
now again is the reason that people are very concerned
and how this happened is because the Biden administration wasn't
looking right when Donald Trump during his first term, maximum
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pressure meant cutting off Iran's money, meant putting pressure on
Iran in lots of different ways, whether it was intelligence services,
whether it was a different kind of different kind of
military action. Let's remember he killed the IRGC's head customs
solly money. So for Trump, the maximum pressure campaign right,
the Iranian nuclear weapons program was still a big deal,
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but Donald Trump had them on their back heels. What
Joe Biden did was when he came in, he relaxed
the US posture, not just talking about military, talking about
every particular way, especially financially. So that's what's happening right now.
That's how the Iranians have made this mad rush and
that's why Donald Trump, the White House, and also our
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allies throughout the region, most especially of course Israel, are
very concerned right now. So, in short, that's kind of
abridged history from the beginning to the present.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
No, I appreciate you abridging it as much as you did.
Can you maybe elaborate a little bit more on why
the soft stance if we have to put it that way,
From of course Barack Obama you already pointed out, and
then the Bided administration. What's with the soft heart for Iran?
What's the Democrat goal for Iran?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
I mean, I mean, there are foreign policy goals and
there are domestic policy goals. How about if I just how
about if I leave it at this and I try
to pay as much respect to both Barack Obama and
Joe Biden as possible. And that's to say they had
an academic view. I won't, I won't. I won't go
much further. They had an academic view of the world,
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and their academic view of the world has to do
with balance of power. And now, Jesse, if you and
I were sitting and having a beer with most of
your audience, if we were talking about balance of power,
what we'd be talking about is like, Okay, I'm going
to go make sure that my two adversaries are at
each other's throats because that's good for me, that'll advantage me.
That's not how these guys see it. That's not how
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Obama saw it. It's not how Henry Kissinger saw it too,
which we can talk about at some other time. Their
idea was to bring everyone into a balance of power, meant,
by definition, hobbling the United States. That was the purpose,
right people perceived the United States, and it's shocking for
Americans that American administration saw. They saw the United States
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as the grand provocateur throughout the Middle East. But that's
what Barack Obama did, and that's why by legalizing the
Iranian nuclear weapons program, the idea was there would be
some sort of grand deterrent scheme throughout the region. Uh
the United States as a nuclear as a nuclear power,
of course, but if Iran was to and of course
Israel is a nuclear power, but to set up the
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system of deterrence that would keep the peace in this
insanely volatile region. So that was the again the overly
academic theory that I think is fair to say. I
have other theories as well about what, especially what Barack
Obama was doing, but absolutely this is what was going
on with Obama and the Obama White House.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Wow, it's not freaking secret Obama hated Jews, he was
raised by Jews. I mean, look, we don't have to
mince words.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
I just I just thought would give the academic explanation
as well that.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Well, you know what a soft touch I have on
things lead. I mean, I remember, like it was yesterday
when when they asked Reverend right if he met with
Obama after he was elected. The first thing out of
his mouth was he said, them, Jews aren't going to
let me talk to him. I mean, that's that's what
influenced the guy's worldviews. So okay, so let's let's focus
on the actual military aspect of this league, because at
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least for right now, I'm old enough to know not
to ever count my chickens on anything. At least for
right now, it looks like Israel beat the living crap
out of them, out of them and at least the
opening salvo taking out all these leaders things like that. Now,
Iran is not America, they're not France, they're not Israel militarily,
but they're also not nothing. But they've been made to
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look like nothing. So far, What do you make of that.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Well, I mean, the big Iranian threat has always been
the Islamic Revolutionary Guard core the IRGC, especially it's Goods Force,
which is his expedition expeditionary terror unit. And these are
the guys who not only go around the Middle East
like to uh, you know, these are the guys who
built Hezbaala and these are the guys who were working, uh,
(20:21):
you know, working with US as forces in Syria. It's
very important understand the Iranians really don't have a regular military.
Most of their most of their most of their fighting
is done by Arabs around the region. What the IRGC
does is it's basically a consultancy firm. It's like McKenzie.
They go around the Middle East and they show other
people out of fight and direct them and tell them
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what to do. That's what the IRGC is for the
most part. It's not very large. It's also a lot
it's a business enterprise inside of Iran. The other thing
the IRGC does is and this is important and it's
something worth talking about.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
And some people have talked about it, though I don't
particularly like the way they've talked about it. But but
but but they have cultivated, They have cultivated terror forces
around the world. So in so far as the Americans
should be concerned, and in so far as our domestic
domestic services should be on high alert.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
And I'm sure FBI.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Director Cash Pattel and Christy nom at DHS, they are
all concerned about this, and they're all following I mean,
I have no particular insight. I'm just imagining that they're
on alert and they're following whatever leads they may have.
If there are different Iranian terror proxies operating here in
the United States and Jesse. This is one of the
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shameful things about what Joe Biden did when he left
our borders open. The number of you know, you know,
the number of foreigners who are here causing actually who
are here to cause trouble, not just to do terrible
things like get behind a car and drive a drunk
and kill Americans, right, but you know, kill Americans inadvertently,
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but people who have been sent here to actually kill Americans.
So this is what I think, this is what I
think we should be focusing on. And again, I'm sure
there's in the White House. I'm sure Seb Gorka is
looking at this and it's a very big deal. So
that's that's the biggest concern I think for the United
States right now. I mean, if that makes sense, there's
lots of other stuff happening around the region, and you
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know there's lots of stuff that will be happening inside Iran.
I'm sure for for a while to come.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yeah, I'm have to cancel my vacation, all right, Lee,
Before I let you go, Speaking of cash, Betail, I've
got to ask you about this Chinese made driver's license
to sway the twenty twenty election. What is this about?
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Yeah, this is a very important story that when I
first saw that reported last night, I think John Solomon
that just the news broke the story really important piece
and right what the core of the stories about Chinese
election interference, I mean in an insanely perverse way as
well driver's licenses, you know, to get to get people
to be able to register to vote. But you may
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remember that I believe the date was January fifth, twenty
twenty one. The then Director of National Intelligence John Radcliffe,
who's now CIA Director. Radcliffe issued a memo who's talking
to an intelligence community Onmvitzman who's pointing out that there
were big problems at the CIA because CIA analysts, some
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of them, wanted to say what the Chinese were up to,
and they were blocked by CIA management. And unfortunately that
suggests that perhaps the former CIA director Gina Haswell may
have been involved in pressuring analysts not to reveal what
the Chinese were doing. But there were other guys who
were there. Other guys at the agency were saying stuff like, yeah,
(23:42):
I don't like Trump's policies, so I'm not going to
put this correct analysis through there. I see what the
Chinese are doing, but I don't like Donald Trump, or
I don't like Donald Trump's policy on China, so I'm
not going to write that analysis or document what I
know to be the case. So it's very upsetting. So anyway,
Cash Pattel, director Patel has As, they have found apparently
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lots of this intelligence and they've passed it on now
to Senator Chuck Grassley. So yeah, it's a big store
and a very big deal.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
What was it? They said, the most secure, freest Farrest
election ever. As soon as I heard those words repeated
over and over and over again, Lee, I knew something
was a miss.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, thank you brother, all right, stock immigration policy is
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because the Trump administration, frankly, has been awesome so far.
(25:51):
They're even going into the heart of enemy territory, places
like Los Angeles where these scumbags tend to congregate and
they're rooting them out. Now. Came out last week and
he indicated publicly that he's going to back off with
you know, farms and hotel workers. But then today we
find out they're they're reversing that too. I don't know
what the I don't know what the truth is with
(26:12):
all this right now. I bet Victor does joining me now,
Victor of ELA, retired ICE agent Victor, it's been doing
my heart well to see ICE out there rounded up
the scum in this country. Where's the Trump administration with
all this? Right now? I gotta tell you the reality.
I'm gonna tell the truth.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
There is some.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Turmoil.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
I don't want to use that word really, but there
is some confusion of the mission between the President's office
and ICE and the leadership all the way down to
the field agent exactly because of what you just said.
President Trump says one thing and then the ICE Department
is saying something else. It causes a lot of confusion,
and it causes a lot of issues down to the
field level as to who they will actually go approach
(26:51):
and pick up now when it talks when we talk
about the criminal legal aliens, I don't think anybody has
a problem. The Left's gonna have a problem with anybody,
But I think the common American wants that criminally illegal
alien gone, and we are targeting there. We have millions
of those, by the way, that we could target that
are only known god aways that came in the last
four years and that have actually deportation orders already issued
(27:14):
to them. So there's plenty of work to go pick
up those categories. Yes, they're encountering what they call the colladals,
the ones that don't have any criminal history, and they're
going to go too because they're not. That discretion doesn't
exist anymore.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Now when you.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Talk about the agricultural workers and the hotel industry workers
and all that, that is something that is up for
discussion if you really wanted to talk about that, and
let's have the discussion. But I think we have to
be very clear as to what to do and what
they're not to do in because the confusion doesn't help
either way when it comes to the mission.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Okay, so I'm going to ask the lamest question in
the world, in the lamest way. But I think you'll
get what I'm saying. I'm confused. Why there is confusion?
Meaning the Trump administration has been pretty clear eyed about
this whole thing. Is it the social media posts? Are
they giving two different sets of orders? Because that's not
fair to the ICE guys. Why are the ICE guys confused?
Speaker 6 (28:10):
I think it has to do with some of the
people that are in some of these positions, higher up
positions within the Agency of DHS and ICE that might
not be on the same page here, and that's concerning.
And so they are undermining the orders of the President
of the United States, and they think that they could
then give their orders to their own people. And of course,
(28:31):
you know, you as an agent, you listen to your
supervisor and your supervisor supervisor, and here we go. That's
the old chain of command, right, And I think that
needs to be up and has to be very very clear.
And I think it has to do with the starting
from the top.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Yeah, all right, let's switch gears here, focus on these
quacky blue states like New York. We have New York's
ag Leticia James publicly saying that she's going to be
going after New Yorkers cops who try to help ICE.
What is with all this garbage?
Speaker 6 (29:02):
It is garbage, And just like the what is it
the New York controller that just got arrested for impeding
and obstructing ICE? I gotta tell you it upsets me
when they keep on spreading lies. And the one that
they spread is that for some reason they think that
an ICE agent has to show some kind of a
judicial warrant. I'm here to tell you, as a retired
special agent with Homeland security investigations under ICE, that they
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need absolutely no warrant whatsoever. I in my career arrested
many many people without any warrant. As a matter of fact,
most of the arrest that I conducted in my career
there was no warrant involved. This is a myth that
the left and the media has started pushing out, especially
to the legal alien community, saying that they have to
show you some kind of warrant.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
That is not true.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
The other thing that this elected official is yelling out
that the ICE agents don't have the authority to arrest
you as citizens.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 6 (29:56):
I don't know where they get this information from, but
an ICE agent, federal agent is the same as a
police officer, it's the same as the sheriff. They have
certain rights under certain authority under certain jurisdictions. And yes,
that involves the US citizens. Again, I will tell you
I arrested and jailed many US citizens throughout my career,
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and I wanted to make that clear because for some reason,
when we attach immigration to this discussion, you don't hear
that about the local police when they pull over somebody
for duy or somebody for a robbery, or.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Even when you talk about FBI.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
But as soon as you talk about immigration officials, for
some reason, they don't get the authority that they deserve
or the tension that they deserve that they do have
behind the law. And it's very discerning to me because they,
like the Titia James and others are gonna end up
finding themselves in handcuffs for continuing to obstruct this process.
(30:53):
And Tom Holman has made it very clear that you're
not above the law, taking their own words out of
their mouths, and you are going to find yourself in
custody and be prosecuted for this.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Lord Willing, I can't wait to see some Democrats arrested.
Thank you, Victor, I appreciate it. Come back so Liz Wheeler,
She's going to join us talk about all the street
right insanity and who's funding it next. It feels like
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the street animals are restless, if you will, We just
saw the stupid No Kings protests. But as we've discussed
many many times before on the show, ninety nine percent
of the riots you've seen in your life, every time
the animals take to the streets, it's paid for, an
organized it's not organic. It's not normal people like you
with lives, families, sitting at home getting outraged and busting
(31:52):
out the poster board for some stupid sign. This is
all the Democrat communist network in this country, which is funded, organized,
and you're seeing a lot of it now. Question is
why joining me now? Liz Wheeler, host of the Wonderful
Liz Wheelers Show. Okay, Liz, they dropped two point one
billion with the B on the No Kings protest and
(32:15):
it just didn't pop off.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
Why No, it didn't. In fact, I unintentionally drove through
a No King's protest just on my way to do
what normal people do on the weekend, which is visiting family,
and I passed by a luxury white Mercedes. I'm talking
like a new model Chrome. The driver has his arm
hanging out the window with a poster board sign that
(32:37):
says democracy is under assault. And my husband's driving the
car and he's like, yeah, bro, pullpot's really coming for you.
And you're spiffy white luxury Mercedes. The left, I mean,
obviously hilarious. I was shrieking with laughter because this is
this is who the left is.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Right.
Speaker 7 (32:52):
They recruit these gullible, wealthy boomer liberals to come out
to their protests who aren't not harmed by leftist policies
on one hand, and then on the other hand, they
recruit these radical revolutionary Marxists to stage these violent riots.
The so called anti ICE riots not really about anti Ice.
(33:13):
It's really about being pro illegal alien out in LA
and New York. And of course you're right, none of
this is real. None of it's grassroots, none of it's organic.
It's all not only organized and coordinated by certain groups,
but it is paid for by people who hate you
and who hate America.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
You have been doing a lot of digging on this.
Whenever Liz Wheeler gets on something, she normally gets to
the bottom of it. What have you found?
Speaker 7 (33:40):
Yes, there will be a congressional investigation soon. In fact,
because some of the groups behind the violent anti ICE riots.
I mean some of the groups are the Party of
Socialism and Liberation. It's an openly communist group that's splintered
off from a larger communist group here in the United States.
Maybe you've never heard of them, maybe you're just here
about them now. They're one of the groups that coordinated
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a lot of these anti ICE, these violent riots, and
they're funded. This group is funded by a man and
almost billionaire. He's not quite a billionaire, although I think
he styles himself as one. By the name of Neville
Roy Singham, It's a name that a lot of us
on the writer are not super familiar with. We're a
lot more familiar with names like George Soros. But I
would argue, and I know this is a this is
(34:22):
a pretty big claim to make. I would argue that
Roy Singham is more influential right now than George Soros
because he is, believe it or not, more revolutionary than
George Soros. George Soros, of course is pro open borders,
but Roy Singham is an avowed Marxist and communist who's
actually hiding out in China. He lives in Shanghai, China,
(34:43):
even though he's an American citizen, and he if you
live in China, you have to do so a special
permission of the CCP. He shares an office with a
Chinese communist propaganda firm, and not just shares an office building,
I mean literally shares an office. He's been seen at
Chinese propaganda conferences writing in a red notebook with a
hammer and a sickle on him. He is like as
communist as you can be as an American capitalist who
(35:05):
made almost a billion dollars selling his tech company. He
is the one funding the Party for Socialism and Liberation
who's staging these riots. He also seems at first like
a weird connection until you understand the Chinese influence behind it.
He's also the one funding a lot of the pro
Palestinian pro Hamas violent protests in the United States. So
he funds the Palestinian Youth Movement group. He funds Students
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for Justice in Palestine. So when you saw a lot
of those Palestinian flags at the so called anti Ice
ride in La a lot of that Kefia's the neckerchief
warned by the terrorists, the Hamas terrorists that's not a coincidence.
It's the same people that Roy Singham is paying to
riot on behalf of his pro Palestinian views, as he
is now paying to riot on behalf of his communist views,
(35:50):
ostensibly the anti Ice riots. This guy's now going to
be investigated by Congress for funding this unrest in the
United States because it is an anti American endeavor. There's
been document requests that he's been subject to from the
House Oversight Committee that would be of course Comer is
the chair over there. Congressman Luna Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green
have been on this. On the Senate side, Josh Holly,
(36:12):
Senator Josh Holly is also investigating the Party for Socialism
and Liberation and who exactly is funding them. It's not
really a secret who's funding them. But this guy, Roy Singham,
that's a name that we should learn. It should become
a household name, because this guy is one of the
most influential figures in fomenting the violent aspects of the
Democratic Party which we've seen since probably twenty fifteen, was
(36:35):
the start of that through twenty twenty until now this
guy's behind it.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Liz, do we know anything about this guy's motivation. Everyone
knows by now. Like you said, we've been talking about
George Soros for years. We know he's one of these
god complex type people. He's admitted that about himself, that
believes part of his role in life is to destroy America,
all that other garbage. Singham, what's his deal?
Speaker 7 (37:00):
Yeah, it's interesting actually when you look into the background
of this guy. He was once asked a couple years
ago by the New York Times whether he works directly
for the Chinese Communist Party, and he had some flowery
denial where he said, I am not given direction by
any government. I marched to the beat of my own drama.
I act based on my own values. Well, you look
into this guy's background and you're like, yeah, you're acting
(37:21):
according to your own values. Your volumes are communism, bro.
His father was a Communist. His father's Sri Lankan, by
the way, a Sri Lankan immigrant. His mother was Cuban,
but his father was active in the Cuban Revolution. He
was pro Castro. His son, Roysingham's son works for a
Marxist think tank funded by Roy Singham. This guy was
part of the League of Revolutionary Black Voters, which is
(37:44):
a communist group. He was actually investigated back in the
nineteen seventies by the FBI for being a communist. I
think it was either in twenty twenty one or twenty
twenty three. Roy Singam wrote a tribute letter. We posted
this on my social media. Anybody can go and find
this so you can look at the episodes we did
on the Liz Wheeler Show from last week, all the
informations in there. He wrote a letter. It was a
(38:04):
tribute to a communist, a Leninist actually named General Baker,
and he was praising this guy because this Leninist had said,
we are going to topple the Communists. We're going to
come after communism. He is actually motivated by his own values.
He wasn't lying when he said that, because he is
just a communist ideologically. But also interestingly, in that denial,
(38:27):
he never denies that he's received money from the Chinese
Communist Party. I think it's pretty obvious that he, at
least indirectly has received financial benefits from pushing the Chinese
Communist Party's narrative, the sort of we want civil unrest
in the United States, we're anti capitalist. Roy Singham's also
married Interestingly, he got married in twenty seventeen to Jody Evans.
(38:48):
Jody Evans is the woman who co founded Code Pink.
So you know all those angry naked feminists that march
I think we just saw him in France, that's her group.
She is behind that. She says it's an anti war group.
She used to call out the Chinese Communist Party for
their abuse of the Wigers, but coincidentally, after she married
Roy Singham, this mouthpiece of the Chinese Communist Party, she
(39:09):
changed your views and now she's pro Chinese Communist Party
because you know that's how it works.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Of course, yes, of course, yeah, I don't know why
all the feminists gettingnaked. Nobody wants to see that. Okay, Liz,
let's change gears here before I throw up. Let's talk
about the kids. I have two sons, Mead, heeads teenagers,
and I am blown away by how right wing not
they are. Everyone knows my kids are going to be
that way. They're friends. The trends are unbelievable in this country,
(39:38):
that young people are rejecting the filth they're finding. God,
it's wonderful what happened.
Speaker 7 (39:48):
Yeah, yeah, it is interesting to see and didn't one
of your sons just write you. I think you posted
this on social media and I saw it on X
like the most wonderful letter for Father's Day. I know
you make a lot of jokes about yourself, yourself deprecating,
self deprecating about your kids, but I think that we
all know the truth is that your pretty wonderful father
leading your kids towards the truth. So and that that
letter's evidence of it. Pretty touching letter right there. If
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you haven't seen it, go check it out. You are
right to observe that there's a difference in these gen zers.
I guess your sons are probably Gen Alpha, right, aren't
they a little bit younger than Gen Z?
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Even there, I don't though I can't keep track of it.
I'm too old.
Speaker 7 (40:24):
Too old. Well ask them, they'll know, Grocket, For goodness sakes,
there's a difference. This is why young people are turning
away from evil is because they actually recognize that it
is evil. And what I mean by that is, for
so long, even our generation millennials, right, we were given
this camouflaged version of evil that didn't seem like evil.
(40:46):
It just seemed like, oh, democrats in charge of inner
cities haven't done a very good job. Maybe democrats don't
actually have the best interest of black people at heart.
Maybe are they just stupid, Are they just corrupt, Are
they just self interested? Are they just out of touch?
Or they elite? It wasn't as blatant of evil as
we're seeing now. But young people are not stupid now.
(41:07):
They look and they see the transgender ideology. Young men
see that they're being told that they're inherently rapists because
of their testosterone, that masculinity is toxic, that they are
deprived of due process under the law. They're hold that
they're evil because they're white, and they recognize inherently because
inherent within us all is God. It's natural law. You
(41:28):
can call it nature, you can call it divinity, whatever
you want to call it.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
You know my opinion.
Speaker 7 (41:32):
I'm a practicing Catholic. I know it's God, but you
can call it natural law if you want. We know
that that's not true. We know evil when we see it,
and when you acknowledge when you see something that's evil,
there's a wake up moment that happens where you realize, well,
wait a second, if there's evil, then there's also good.
So what is good, and young people across the country
(41:53):
Jesse have actually begun to investigate what is the source
of good, what's the definition of good, what's the author
of good? And it has led them not only to
Christianity at large, it's led them to Catholicism because they're
finding that answer in the doctrine of the Church. I've
never seen anything like this in my lifetime. And it's
weird because we almost have the blatant evil of the
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left to thank for opening the eyes of our youth
to the good of Christ.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Would hardly be the first time in history, biblical and
otherwise that an overabundance of evil have led people to God.
Liz as always, thank you. All right, lighten the mood next,
(42:43):
all right, it is time to lighten the mood. And
let's talk about Bob Menendez going to prison. US Senator Well,
I guess, former US Senator from New Jersey. Bob Menendez
had gold bars, Egyptian gold bars. Apparently he had envelopes
(43:07):
stuffed with cash like some kind of Italian gangster in
the suit jacket pockets of his I mean, just as
corrupt as it gets. He gets sentenced to eleven years
and now officially, he has begun his eleven year prison sentence.
I have said many times before, and I believe that
(43:28):
the United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on
the planet. Now, after so many years of being filled
up with these corrupt monsters, we have a government full
of criminals who commit criminal acts every single day. So
when you hear one guy Bob and Endez going to prison,
you think to yourself, Okay, well whatever, there's still a
lot more. You're right, there's a lot more. But when
(43:51):
there's one, let's celebrate a w put a smile on
your face. A corrupt politician who you used his position
in the United States Senate to enrich himself is going
to prison for his crimes. That's something to feel good about.
That lightens my mood. Send democrats to prison, the criminals anyway,
(44:15):
all right, I'll see them all
All right, let's talk about this whole Iran thing. Let's
talk about foreign policy in general. Let's talk about immigration policy.
Did it change? Lee Smith shows up with some opinions.
All that and more coming up, and I'm writing, Okay,
(00:25):
before we get to foreign policy, with all this Israel
Iran stuff and a little prediction I'm going to make
and all that, we have to do something we hate
to do, but something we believe in. On the show,
we honor yet another fallen service member, especially those who
died during training. They are the forgotten heroes. They died
(00:45):
serving their country, no different than somebody charging a machine gun.
Nest in war and a chief Warrant officer, Dustin chief
ward officer too. I'm sorry. Dustin K. Wright a pilot,
an Army pilot. He was with the hundred and first
comment that Aviation Brigade. He died during a training mission.
He died for his country, gave up his life for
(01:07):
his country. It is dangerous to serve in the military.
It's dangerous to fly a helicopter. Helicopters have problems. Helicopters
fall out of the sky and kill people who are
in them. He signed up to serve his country, and
he gave his life for our country and he deserves
our unending respect. All right, all right, now, let's let's
(01:32):
talk about Israel, in Iran and America and all the
stuff that's happening right now before we get into Donald
Trump and Tulsi Gabbard and my prediction and where we're going.
The main reason I'm want to talk to you tonight
is not to give you the latest update on the
(01:53):
bombings and at Tel Aviv and America. But I'm not
doing that. Not doing that. The reason i wanted to
talk to you about this is first, foreign policy is
not simple, and you should beware of anybody, and yourself included,
because I'm tempted to do it too. We're all human.
(02:15):
Beware of anybody simplifying something that is complicated. People love
to do this with foreign policy, with historical foreign policy,
with current foreign policy, with future foreign policy. This is good,
this is bad. They good, they bad, He good, he bad.
(02:35):
You see it all the time. The people will take
incredibly complicated affairs with different players on every side, different motivations,
and they'll Civil war is actually a perfect example. Americans
are taught about the Civil War North good, South bad.
That is the extent of American knowledge about an ongoing,
(02:58):
horrible civil war of with six hundred thousand dead, angels
and demons on every side, different motivations, moving parts everywhere,
all simplified down to north good, South bad. That's how
people handle things. That's how people handle wars, conflicts, really
most things. But foreign policy is not simple. It is
(03:23):
never simple. It's never clear what is right what is wrong.
So if you are sitting here watching me right now,
and you have a strong opinion about Israel Iran, that
is fine. That is fine. I get that one way
or the other. Don't care. I have a strong opinion,
that's fine, But remember it's not simple. Okay, if you're
sitting here right now and you don't know what to believe,
(03:45):
I kind of like this. I don't like Iran. I
don't want them to have a new but I am
kind of nervous about That's totally fine. If you're sitting there,
I'll hell you right now because I don't want to
be mellium out the whole thing, about the whole thing.
That's that's really where I'm at. I'm in to watch
and wait mode. I'm very apprehensive after twenty years of
(04:06):
failed Gwatt failure. I also don't want Iran to have
a nuclear weapon. I'm very apprehensive of where all this
might go. I'm watching, I'm waiting. Wherever you are is fine.
But what you shouldn't do is simplify it. It's not simple.
It's complicated, different motivations. Look, think about America alone. We
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won't even get into all the other countries. Just America alone.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
We have.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Competing interests in this country, competing ideas, foreign, domestic ideas.
We do have a little bit of that. Wouldn't you say,
that's just our country. Now, fit all those competing ideas,
competing interests with Israel, competing ideas, competing interests, different motivations. Oh,
but let's loop in Iran, competing interests, competing ideas. Is
(04:56):
China involved? China buys twenty percent of their oil for me?
Run involved? What about Russia? It's complicated. There are a
lot of players. But let's discuss where we are. Because
Donald Trump has gone to social media and that's where well,
that's where foreign polsy's done now, right in front of
our eyes, which is kind of cool. He's said Tehran
(05:16):
needs to be evacuated. He came out and called for
unconditional surrender. Today also gave a not so subtle reference
to the fact that he knows where the big cheese is,
he knows where the ayatola is, and we can kill
him any time we want, not saying we will, but
we might. And that brings us to this Trump is.
(05:42):
He's not what people pretend he is on both sides,
and here's what I mean. There are people on both
sides who believe that Donald Trump is this ultimate strong
man that will bring back America's strength all of her enemies.
There are people who believe that. There are people also
(06:04):
on both sides who believe that Donald Trump is a
complete dove when it comes to forum policy, totally hands off,
just wants to take care of America and get some
get some of those stale factories back up to work. Again,
he's not really either of those things. He's a mixture,
I would say, of both of those things. But again,
we like to make things simple. He's a dove, here's
(06:26):
a hawk. Here's what he said about this before.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
What specifically is better than a ceasfire? What are you
looking for here? And then a real end down a ceasfire?
And then there's something that would be permanent or more
giving up entirely. Is that okay? To are you close
there is? Are you possible? Is that possible on a
twenty four?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Certainly impossible? Complete give them? That's possible?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
All right. So here's how he clearly stands now when
you call for unconditional surrender. I know the audio was
a little rough there because he was on a plane,
but when he's talking about not a ceasefire and and
a complete give up in his own words, that's what
he said. When you take that stance, whatever you believe
(07:21):
about it, right or wrong, when you take that stance,
then you have guaranteed it's about to get hot. Because
if you're the Ayatola, you don't have any choices. Right,
you give up all your power, you give up your country.
Undoubtedly you face a war crimes trial or you fight.
So if that's the stance you've taken, that means you're
(07:42):
going to war. That brings me to know how we
were talking about there are different factions in America, different
competing factions, even on our side. That brings me to
Tulsa Gabbert. Tulca Gabbert is the DNI Director of National
Intelligence there was a meeting at Camp David. It convened
all the heads of the family, if you will. That's
(08:04):
a Godfather reference. Taulsey Gabbard wasn't invited. Dn I wasn't invited.
And then Trump said, well, this is yesterday. Trump said
this publicly about Tulsi because Taulsi, just three months ago
had testified in front of Congress that Iran's not making
a nuclear weapon. Here's what Trump said about that.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
From people always said that you don't believe it Ron
should be able to have a nuclear weapon, But how
close do you personally think that they were to getting one?
Because Tulsea Garrett Toulsey Gerbert's testify in March that the
intelligence community said Iran wasn't building a nuclear woman.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Here what she said, I think of a very close
to heaven.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I don't care what she said, all right, So I
don't care whose side you're on the whole Trump versus
Taulsie thing. But I want you to watch one more
little video. This was last week, two weeks ago. Tul
Gabbard went online and she put out it was long.
This is a brief version of it. It was three
minutes long on the original version, but she put out
(09:08):
this video really opposing war nuclear war issue.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Was I recently visited Hiroshima in Japan and stood at
the epicenter of a city that remains scarred by the
unimaginable horror caused by a single nuclear bomb dropped in
nineteen forty five, eighty years ago. Because as we stand
here today, closer to the brink of nuclear annihilation than
ever before, political elite and warmongers are carelessly fomenting fear
(09:37):
and tensions between nuclear powers. Perhaps it's because they are
confident that they will have access to nuclear shelters for
themselves and for their families that regular people won't have
access to. So it's up to us, the people, to
speak up and demand an end to this madness. We
(09:58):
must reject this pas to nuclear war and work toward
a world where no one has to live in fear
of a nuclear holocaust.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Does that sound like somebody who's going to be thrilled
that we have carrier groups sailing towards Iran and the
President publicly announcing that we're about to kill the Ayatola.
So here's the little prediction. Telsea Gabbert will not be
DNI for very much longer. When the president comes out
(10:34):
and says, I don't care what you say. When you
don't get the invite to the head party at Camp David,
when you are obviously going to be upset about this
current direction. Maybe she quits, maybe she gets fired, maybe
she resigns, you know, to go pursue a family. They
love to do that whole thing. I don't know exactly
what the details will be. We're going to have a
(10:56):
new DNI very soon. Either way. The point of all
this is watch, don't simplify anything. Watch take in information.
There will be lies spreading all over from every side,
as there are in every war. We have to be
discerning people to sift through the madness. All that may
(11:19):
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(12:30):
sift through information, like we talked about, Go to people
you trust and figure out what's real what's not real,
Especially during war. We're always surrounded by lives in this era,
in every other era. When it comes to war, what
is real and what is not It's hard to figure out.
So get information from people you trust. I trust guys
(12:54):
like Lee Smith always have. You know. Lee comes on
this show as often as we can get our hands on.
I'm best selling author. Smith joins me now to give
us a little bit of background so we can bone
up on what we're dealing with here. Okay, Lee, let's
rewind before we get into anything today. Iran's nuclear program,
how did they start it? Why did they start it,
(13:16):
why has it accelerated? Give us some background on it.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Well, I mean you know this. I mean actually, the
Iranian nuclear program probably goes back to some time in
the seventies. It predates the Islamic Revolution. One of the
reasons that the Islamic Republic has wanted the nuclear weapons
program is to be able to push the United States
out of the Middle East. It's very important to understand
that for all the TALKI vert oh, the Iranians arrivals
(13:43):
with Israel or Saudi Arabia, No, that's not true. That's
not how they've ever seen it. They see the United
States as the power in the Middle East, in the
Persian Gulf, as it has been since nineteen forty four,
because at that point, the United States made a deal
with Saudi Arabia saying, in exchange for you making sure
cheap oil, you keep pumping out cheap oil to keep
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the world economy going, and to make sure that America
is sitting on top of the world, we will protect
that oil. And we've seen different times when the United
States has had to protect that oil. For instance, in
nineteen ninety one nineteen ninety two against Saddam Hussein's forces
when they invaded Kuwait. So the Iranians have always had
(14:27):
their eye on us, pushing us out of the region.
The other people they're threatening, of course, are American allies
like Israel, like Saudi Arabia, like the United Arab Emirates.
But again we are the main target. The reason there's
a lot of questions. People have said, well, Okay, we've
been hearing about this for decades, what's going on now,
what's the urgency now? Well, the urgency now is is
(14:49):
that after Donald Trump during his first term, withdrew from
Barack Obama's nuclear deal the Joe Biden administration. While they
were not able to re enter the nuclear deal as
much as they wanted to, nonetheless they made available to
the Iranians many, many billions of dollars. And when we're
(15:10):
talking about the money that the Iranians put into their
war chest, it goes in some cases for terror outfits,
for terror proxies like Hamas, like Hesbala, but it also
goes into their nuclear weapons program. So people want to know, like, wow,
how did it, how did this happen all of a
sudden out of the blue, whise Donald Trump really alarmed
about this?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Right now?
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Well, again, Remember Donald Trump has been talking about Habieranki
and have a bomb. He's been talking about this actually
even before he started running in twenty fifteen, so he's
been pretty consistent on this. But the reason it's urgent
now again is the reason that people are very concerned
and how this happened is because the Biden administration wasn't
looking right when Donald Trump during his first term, maximum
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pressure meant cutting off Iran's money, meant putting pressure on
Iran in lots of different ways, whether it was intelligence services,
whether it was a different kind of different kind of
military action. Let's remember he killed the IRGC's head customs
solly money. So for Trump, the maximum pressure campaign right,
the Iranian nuclear weapons program was still a big deal,
(16:15):
but Donald Trump had them on their back heels. What
Joe Biden did was when he came in, he relaxed
the US posture, not just talking about military, talking about
every particular way, especially financially. So that's what's happening right now.
That's how the Iranians have made this mad rush and
that's why Donald Trump, the White House, and also our
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allies throughout the region, most especially of course Israel, are
very concerned right now. So, in short, that's kind of
abridged history from the beginning to the present.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
No, I appreciate you abridging it as much as you did.
Can you maybe elaborate a little bit more on why
the soft stance if we have to put it that way,
From of course Barack Obama you already pointed out, and
then the Bided administration. What's with the soft heart for Iran?
What's the Democrat goal for Iran?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
I mean, I mean, there are foreign policy goals and
there are domestic policy goals. How about if I just how
about if I leave it at this and I try
to pay as much respect to both Barack Obama and
Joe Biden as possible. And that's to say they had
an academic view. I won't, I won't. I won't go
much further. They had an academic view of the world,
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and their academic view of the world has to do
with balance of power. And now, Jesse, if you and
I were sitting and having a beer with most of
your audience, if we were talking about balance of power,
what we'd be talking about is like, Okay, I'm going
to go make sure that my two adversaries are at
each other's throats because that's good for me, that'll advantage me.
That's not how these guys see it. That's not how
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Obama saw it. It's not how Henry Kissinger saw it too,
which we can talk about at some other time. Their
idea was to bring everyone into a balance of power, meant,
by definition, hobbling the United States. That was the purpose,
right people perceived the United States, and it's shocking for
Americans that American administration saw. They saw the United States
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as the grand provocateur throughout the Middle East. But that's
what Barack Obama did, and that's why by legalizing the
Iranian nuclear weapons program, the idea was there would be
some sort of grand deterrent scheme throughout the region. Uh
the United States as a nuclear as a nuclear power,
of course, but if Iran was to and of course
Israel is a nuclear power, but to set up the
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system of deterrence that would keep the peace in this
insanely volatile region. So that was the again the overly
academic theory that I think is fair to say. I
have other theories as well about what, especially what Barack
Obama was doing, but absolutely this is what was going
on with Obama and the Obama White House.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Wow, it's not freaking secret Obama hated Jews, he was
raised by Jews. I mean, look, we don't have to
mince words.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
I just I just thought would give the academic explanation
as well that.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Well, you know what a soft touch I have on
things lead. I mean, I remember, like it was yesterday
when when they asked Reverend right if he met with
Obama after he was elected. The first thing out of
his mouth was he said, them, Jews aren't going to
let me talk to him. I mean, that's that's what
influenced the guy's worldviews. So okay, so let's let's focus
on the actual military aspect of this league, because at
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least for right now, I'm old enough to know not
to ever count my chickens on anything. At least for
right now, it looks like Israel beat the living crap
out of them, out of them and at least the
opening salvo taking out all these leaders things like that. Now,
Iran is not America, they're not France, they're not Israel militarily,
but they're also not nothing. But they've been made to
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look like nothing. So far, What do you make of that.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Well, I mean, the big Iranian threat has always been
the Islamic Revolutionary Guard core the IRGC, especially it's Goods Force,
which is his expedition expeditionary terror unit. And these are
the guys who not only go around the Middle East
like to uh, you know, these are the guys who
built Hezbaala and these are the guys who were working, uh,
(20:21):
you know, working with US as forces in Syria. It's
very important understand the Iranians really don't have a regular military.
Most of their most of their most of their fighting
is done by Arabs around the region. What the IRGC
does is it's basically a consultancy firm. It's like McKenzie.
They go around the Middle East and they show other
people out of fight and direct them and tell them
(20:41):
what to do. That's what the IRGC is for the
most part. It's not very large. It's also a lot
it's a business enterprise inside of Iran. The other thing
the IRGC does is and this is important and it's
something worth talking about.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
And some people have talked about it, though I don't
particularly like the way they've talked about it. But but
but but they have cultivated, They have cultivated terror forces
around the world. So in so far as the Americans
should be concerned, and in so far as our domestic
domestic services should be on high alert.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
And I'm sure FBI.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Director Cash Pattel and Christy nom at DHS, they are
all concerned about this, and they're all following I mean,
I have no particular insight. I'm just imagining that they're
on alert and they're following whatever leads they may have.
If there are different Iranian terror proxies operating here in
the United States and Jesse. This is one of the
(21:32):
shameful things about what Joe Biden did when he left
our borders open. The number of you know, you know,
the number of foreigners who are here causing actually who
are here to cause trouble, not just to do terrible
things like get behind a car and drive a drunk
and kill Americans, right, but you know, kill Americans inadvertently,
(21:53):
but people who have been sent here to actually kill Americans.
So this is what I think, this is what I
think we should be focusing on. And again, I'm sure
there's in the White House. I'm sure Seb Gorka is
looking at this and it's a very big deal. So
that's that's the biggest concern I think for the United
States right now. I mean, if that makes sense, there's
lots of other stuff happening around the region, and you
(22:15):
know there's lots of stuff that will be happening inside Iran.
I'm sure for for a while to come.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yeah, I'm have to cancel my vacation, all right, Lee,
Before I let you go, Speaking of cash, Betail, I've
got to ask you about this Chinese made driver's license
to sway the twenty twenty election. What is this about?
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Yeah, this is a very important story that when I
first saw that reported last night, I think John Solomon
that just the news broke the story really important piece
and right what the core of the stories about Chinese
election interference, I mean in an insanely perverse way as
well driver's licenses, you know, to get to get people
to be able to register to vote. But you may
(23:00):
remember that I believe the date was January fifth, twenty
twenty one. The then Director of National Intelligence John Radcliffe,
who's now CIA Director. Radcliffe issued a memo who's talking
to an intelligence community Onmvitzman who's pointing out that there
were big problems at the CIA because CIA analysts, some
(23:21):
of them, wanted to say what the Chinese were up to,
and they were blocked by CIA management. And unfortunately that
suggests that perhaps the former CIA director Gina Haswell may
have been involved in pressuring analysts not to reveal what
the Chinese were doing. But there were other guys who
were there. Other guys at the agency were saying stuff like, yeah,
(23:42):
I don't like Trump's policies, so I'm not going to
put this correct analysis through there. I see what the
Chinese are doing, but I don't like Donald Trump, or
I don't like Donald Trump's policy on China, so I'm
not going to write that analysis or document what I
know to be the case. So it's very upsetting. So anyway,
Cash Pattel, director Patel has As, they have found apparently
(24:05):
lots of this intelligence and they've passed it on now
to Senator Chuck Grassley. So yeah, it's a big store
and a very big deal.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
What was it? They said, the most secure, freest Farrest
election ever. As soon as I heard those words repeated
over and over and over again, Lee, I knew something
was a miss.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Right.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, thank you brother, all right, stock immigration policy is
ours changing? Are we softening on deportations. We'll talk to
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We'll be back. Okay, let's get an update on deportations
because the Trump administration, frankly, has been awesome so far.
(25:51):
They're even going into the heart of enemy territory, places
like Los Angeles where these scumbags tend to congregate and
they're rooting them out. Now. Came out last week and
he indicated publicly that he's going to back off with
you know, farms and hotel workers. But then today we
find out they're they're reversing that too. I don't know
what the I don't know what the truth is with
(26:12):
all this right now. I bet Victor does joining me now,
Victor of ELA, retired ICE agent Victor, it's been doing
my heart well to see ICE out there rounded up
the scum in this country. Where's the Trump administration with
all this? Right now? I gotta tell you the reality.
I'm gonna tell the truth.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
There is some.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Turmoil.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
I don't want to use that word really, but there
is some confusion of the mission between the President's office
and ICE and the leadership all the way down to
the field agent exactly because of what you just said.
President Trump says one thing and then the ICE Department
is saying something else. It causes a lot of confusion,
and it causes a lot of issues down to the
field level as to who they will actually go approach
(26:51):
and pick up now when it talks when we talk
about the criminal legal aliens, I don't think anybody has
a problem. The Left's gonna have a problem with anybody,
But I think the common American wants that criminally illegal
alien gone, and we are targeting there. We have millions
of those, by the way, that we could target that
are only known god aways that came in the last
four years and that have actually deportation orders already issued
(27:14):
to them. So there's plenty of work to go pick
up those categories. Yes, they're encountering what they call the colladals,
the ones that don't have any criminal history, and they're
going to go too because they're not. That discretion doesn't
exist anymore.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Now when you.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Talk about the agricultural workers and the hotel industry workers
and all that, that is something that is up for
discussion if you really wanted to talk about that, and
let's have the discussion. But I think we have to
be very clear as to what to do and what
they're not to do in because the confusion doesn't help
either way when it comes to the mission.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Okay, so I'm going to ask the lamest question in
the world, in the lamest way. But I think you'll
get what I'm saying. I'm confused. Why there is confusion?
Meaning the Trump administration has been pretty clear eyed about
this whole thing. Is it the social media posts? Are
they giving two different sets of orders? Because that's not
fair to the ICE guys. Why are the ICE guys confused?
Speaker 6 (28:10):
I think it has to do with some of the
people that are in some of these positions, higher up
positions within the Agency of DHS and ICE that might
not be on the same page here, and that's concerning.
And so they are undermining the orders of the President
of the United States, and they think that they could
then give their orders to their own people. And of course,
(28:31):
you know, you as an agent, you listen to your
supervisor and your supervisor supervisor, and here we go. That's
the old chain of command, right, And I think that
needs to be up and has to be very very clear.
And I think it has to do with the starting
from the top.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Yeah, all right, let's switch gears here, focus on these
quacky blue states like New York. We have New York's
ag Leticia James publicly saying that she's going to be
going after New Yorkers cops who try to help ICE.
What is with all this garbage?
Speaker 6 (29:02):
It is garbage, And just like the what is it
the New York controller that just got arrested for impeding
and obstructing ICE? I gotta tell you it upsets me
when they keep on spreading lies. And the one that
they spread is that for some reason they think that
an ICE agent has to show some kind of a
judicial warrant. I'm here to tell you, as a retired
special agent with Homeland security investigations under ICE, that they
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need absolutely no warrant whatsoever. I in my career arrested
many many people without any warrant. As a matter of fact,
most of the arrest that I conducted in my career
there was no warrant involved. This is a myth that
the left and the media has started pushing out, especially
to the legal alien community, saying that they have to
show you some kind of warrant.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
That is not true.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
The other thing that this elected official is yelling out
that the ICE agents don't have the authority to arrest
you as citizens.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 6 (29:56):
I don't know where they get this information from, but
an ICE agent, federal agent is the same as a
police officer, it's the same as the sheriff. They have
certain rights under certain authority under certain jurisdictions. And yes,
that involves the US citizens. Again, I will tell you
I arrested and jailed many US citizens throughout my career,
(30:17):
and I wanted to make that clear because for some reason,
when we attach immigration to this discussion, you don't hear
that about the local police when they pull over somebody
for duy or somebody for a robbery, or.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Even when you talk about FBI.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
But as soon as you talk about immigration officials, for
some reason, they don't get the authority that they deserve
or the tension that they deserve that they do have
behind the law. And it's very discerning to me because they,
like the Titia James and others are gonna end up
finding themselves in handcuffs for continuing to obstruct this process.
(30:53):
And Tom Holman has made it very clear that you're
not above the law, taking their own words out of
their mouths, and you are going to find yourself in
custody and be prosecuted for this.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Lord Willing, I can't wait to see some Democrats arrested.
Thank you, Victor, I appreciate it. Come back so Liz Wheeler,
She's going to join us talk about all the street
right insanity and who's funding it next. It feels like
(31:29):
the street animals are restless, if you will, We just
saw the stupid No Kings protests. But as we've discussed
many many times before on the show, ninety nine percent
of the riots you've seen in your life, every time
the animals take to the streets, it's paid for, an
organized it's not organic. It's not normal people like you
with lives, families, sitting at home getting outraged and busting
(31:52):
out the poster board for some stupid sign. This is
all the Democrat communist network in this country, which is funded, organized,
and you're seeing a lot of it now. Question is
why joining me now? Liz Wheeler, host of the Wonderful
Liz Wheelers Show. Okay, Liz, they dropped two point one
billion with the B on the No Kings protest and
(32:15):
it just didn't pop off.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
Why No, it didn't. In fact, I unintentionally drove through
a No King's protest just on my way to do
what normal people do on the weekend, which is visiting family,
and I passed by a luxury white Mercedes. I'm talking
like a new model Chrome. The driver has his arm
hanging out the window with a poster board sign that
(32:37):
says democracy is under assault. And my husband's driving the
car and he's like, yeah, bro, pullpot's really coming for you.
And you're spiffy white luxury Mercedes. The left, I mean,
obviously hilarious. I was shrieking with laughter because this is
this is who the left is.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Right.
Speaker 7 (32:52):
They recruit these gullible, wealthy boomer liberals to come out
to their protests who aren't not harmed by leftist policies
on one hand, and then on the other hand, they
recruit these radical revolutionary Marxists to stage these violent riots.
The so called anti ICE riots not really about anti Ice.
(33:13):
It's really about being pro illegal alien out in LA
and New York. And of course you're right, none of
this is real. None of it's grassroots, none of it's organic.
It's all not only organized and coordinated by certain groups,
but it is paid for by people who hate you
and who hate America.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
You have been doing a lot of digging on this.
Whenever Liz Wheeler gets on something, she normally gets to
the bottom of it. What have you found?
Speaker 7 (33:40):
Yes, there will be a congressional investigation soon. In fact,
because some of the groups behind the violent anti ICE riots.
I mean some of the groups are the Party of
Socialism and Liberation. It's an openly communist group that's splintered
off from a larger communist group here in the United States.
Maybe you've never heard of them, maybe you're just here
about them now. They're one of the groups that coordinated
(34:02):
a lot of these anti ICE, these violent riots, and
they're funded. This group is funded by a man and
almost billionaire. He's not quite a billionaire, although I think
he styles himself as one. By the name of Neville
Roy Singham, It's a name that a lot of us
on the writer are not super familiar with. We're a
lot more familiar with names like George Soros. But I
would argue, and I know this is a this is
(34:22):
a pretty big claim to make. I would argue that
Roy Singham is more influential right now than George Soros
because he is, believe it or not, more revolutionary than
George Soros. George Soros, of course is pro open borders,
but Roy Singham is an avowed Marxist and communist who's
actually hiding out in China. He lives in Shanghai, China,
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even though he's an American citizen, and he if you
live in China, you have to do so a special
permission of the CCP. He shares an office with a
Chinese communist propaganda firm, and not just shares an office building,
I mean literally shares an office. He's been seen at
Chinese propaganda conferences writing in a red notebook with a
hammer and a sickle on him. He is like as
communist as you can be as an American capitalist who
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made almost a billion dollars selling his tech company. He
is the one funding the Party for Socialism and Liberation
who's staging these riots. He also seems at first like
a weird connection until you understand the Chinese influence behind it.
He's also the one funding a lot of the pro
Palestinian pro Hamas violent protests in the United States. So
he funds the Palestinian Youth Movement group. He funds Students
(35:28):
for Justice in Palestine. So when you saw a lot
of those Palestinian flags at the so called anti Ice
ride in La a lot of that Kefia's the neckerchief
warned by the terrorists, the Hamas terrorists that's not a coincidence.
It's the same people that Roy Singham is paying to
riot on behalf of his pro Palestinian views, as he
is now paying to riot on behalf of his communist views,
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ostensibly the anti Ice riots. This guy's now going to
be investigated by Congress for funding this unrest in the
United States because it is an anti American endeavor. There's
been document requests that he's been subject to from the
House Oversight Committee that would be of course Comer is
the chair over there. Congressman Luna Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green
have been on this. On the Senate side, Josh Holly,
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Senator Josh Holly is also investigating the Party for Socialism
and Liberation and who exactly is funding them. It's not
really a secret who's funding them. But this guy, Roy Singham,
that's a name that we should learn. It should become
a household name, because this guy is one of the
most influential figures in fomenting the violent aspects of the
Democratic Party which we've seen since probably twenty fifteen, was
(36:35):
the start of that through twenty twenty until now this
guy's behind it.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Liz, do we know anything about this guy's motivation. Everyone
knows by now. Like you said, we've been talking about
George Soros for years. We know he's one of these
god complex type people. He's admitted that about himself, that
believes part of his role in life is to destroy America,
all that other garbage. Singham, what's his deal?
Speaker 7 (37:00):
Yeah, it's interesting actually when you look into the background
of this guy. He was once asked a couple years
ago by the New York Times whether he works directly
for the Chinese Communist Party, and he had some flowery
denial where he said, I am not given direction by
any government. I marched to the beat of my own drama.
I act based on my own values. Well, you look
into this guy's background and you're like, yeah, you're acting
(37:21):
according to your own values. Your volumes are communism, bro.
His father was a Communist. His father's Sri Lankan, by
the way, a Sri Lankan immigrant. His mother was Cuban,
but his father was active in the Cuban Revolution. He
was pro Castro. His son, Roysingham's son works for a
Marxist think tank funded by Roy Singham. This guy was
part of the League of Revolutionary Black Voters, which is
(37:44):
a communist group. He was actually investigated back in the
nineteen seventies by the FBI for being a communist. I
think it was either in twenty twenty one or twenty
twenty three. Roy Singam wrote a tribute letter. We posted
this on my social media. Anybody can go and find
this so you can look at the episodes we did
on the Liz Wheeler Show from last week, all the
informations in there. He wrote a letter. It was a
(38:04):
tribute to a communist, a Leninist actually named General Baker,
and he was praising this guy because this Leninist had said,
we are going to topple the Communists. We're going to
come after communism. He is actually motivated by his own values.
He wasn't lying when he said that, because he is
just a communist ideologically. But also interestingly, in that denial,
(38:27):
he never denies that he's received money from the Chinese
Communist Party. I think it's pretty obvious that he, at
least indirectly has received financial benefits from pushing the Chinese
Communist Party's narrative, the sort of we want civil unrest
in the United States, we're anti capitalist. Roy Singham's also
married Interestingly, he got married in twenty seventeen to Jody Evans.
(38:48):
Jody Evans is the woman who co founded Code Pink.
So you know all those angry naked feminists that march
I think we just saw him in France, that's her group.
She is behind that. She says it's an anti war group.
She used to call out the Chinese Communist Party for
their abuse of the Wigers, but coincidentally, after she married
Roy Singham, this mouthpiece of the Chinese Communist Party, she
(39:09):
changed your views and now she's pro Chinese Communist Party
because you know that's how it works.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Of course, yes, of course, yeah, I don't know why
all the feminists gettingnaked. Nobody wants to see that. Okay, Liz,
let's change gears here before I throw up. Let's talk
about the kids. I have two sons, Mead, heeads teenagers,
and I am blown away by how right wing not
they are. Everyone knows my kids are going to be
that way. They're friends. The trends are unbelievable in this country,
(39:38):
that young people are rejecting the filth they're finding. God,
it's wonderful what happened.
Speaker 7 (39:48):
Yeah, yeah, it is interesting to see and didn't one
of your sons just write you. I think you posted
this on social media and I saw it on X
like the most wonderful letter for Father's Day. I know
you make a lot of jokes about yourself, yourself deprecating,
self deprecating about your kids, but I think that we
all know the truth is that your pretty wonderful father
leading your kids towards the truth. So and that that
letter's evidence of it. Pretty touching letter right there. If
(40:10):
you haven't seen it, go check it out. You are
right to observe that there's a difference in these gen zers.
I guess your sons are probably Gen Alpha, right, aren't
they a little bit younger than Gen Z?
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Even there, I don't though I can't keep track of it.
I'm too old.
Speaker 7 (40:24):
Too old. Well ask them, they'll know, Grocket, For goodness sakes,
there's a difference. This is why young people are turning
away from evil is because they actually recognize that it
is evil. And what I mean by that is, for
so long, even our generation millennials, right, we were given
this camouflaged version of evil that didn't seem like evil.
(40:46):
It just seemed like, oh, democrats in charge of inner
cities haven't done a very good job. Maybe democrats don't
actually have the best interest of black people at heart.
Maybe are they just stupid, Are they just corrupt, Are
they just self interested? Are they just out of touch?
Or they elite? It wasn't as blatant of evil as
we're seeing now. But young people are not stupid now.
(41:07):
They look and they see the transgender ideology. Young men
see that they're being told that they're inherently rapists because
of their testosterone, that masculinity is toxic, that they are
deprived of due process under the law. They're hold that
they're evil because they're white, and they recognize inherently because
inherent within us all is God. It's natural law. You
(41:28):
can call it nature, you can call it divinity, whatever
you want to call it.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
You know my opinion.
Speaker 7 (41:32):
I'm a practicing Catholic. I know it's God, but you
can call it natural law if you want. We know
that that's not true. We know evil when we see it,
and when you acknowledge when you see something that's evil,
there's a wake up moment that happens where you realize, well,
wait a second, if there's evil, then there's also good.
So what is good, and young people across the country
(41:53):
Jesse have actually begun to investigate what is the source
of good, what's the definition of good, what's the author
of good? And it has led them not only to
Christianity at large, it's led them to Catholicism because they're
finding that answer in the doctrine of the Church. I've
never seen anything like this in my lifetime. And it's
weird because we almost have the blatant evil of the
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left to thank for opening the eyes of our youth
to the good of Christ.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Would hardly be the first time in history, biblical and
otherwise that an overabundance of evil have led people to God.
Liz as always, thank you. All right, lighten the mood next,
(42:43):
all right, it is time to lighten the mood. And
let's talk about Bob Menendez going to prison. US Senator Well,
I guess, former US Senator from New Jersey. Bob Menendez
had gold bars, Egyptian gold bars. Apparently he had envelopes
(43:07):
stuffed with cash like some kind of Italian gangster in
the suit jacket pockets of his I mean, just as
corrupt as it gets. He gets sentenced to eleven years
and now officially, he has begun his eleven year prison sentence.
I have said many times before, and I believe that
(43:28):
the United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on
the planet. Now, after so many years of being filled
up with these corrupt monsters, we have a government full
of criminals who commit criminal acts every single day. So
when you hear one guy Bob and Endez going to prison,
you think to yourself, Okay, well whatever, there's still a
lot more. You're right, there's a lot more. But when
(43:51):
there's one, let's celebrate a w put a smile on
your face. A corrupt politician who you used his position
in the United States Senate to enrich himself is going
to prison for his crimes. That's something to feel good about.
That lightens my mood. Send democrats to prison, the criminals anyway,
(44:15):
all right, I'll see them all
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