June 26, 2025 • 45 mins
New York City Democrats have chosen a Democratic-Socialist to be their nominee for mayor, knocking off Andrew Cuomo's political comeback. Zohran Mamdani will now face off against Curtis Sliwa and incumbent Eric Adams in November. What should we know about Mamdani and will he win the general election? Jesse Kelly discusses this with Caroline Downey of the National Review. You'll also hear from Senator Ron Johnson following his big meeting at the White House regarding the Big Beautiful Bill. Plus, a can't-miss story from Josh Hammer about what happened when he was in Israel during the conflict with Iran.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
New York City just nominated a communists. We'll talk about
that and why that kind of thing happened. Senator Ron
Johnson is here to update us on the budget, Josh Hammer,
what happened when he was in Israel, all that more
coming up. I'm right now. Okay, New York City, let's
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go ahead and knock this out right off the bat.
New York City. Last night, if you were paying attention,
which most people were, we found out this Mamdani guy
won the Democrat nomination to be the next mayor of
New York City. Now let me pause before we get
into him and how this kind of thing happens, and
(00:48):
let me just explain something we've talked about before. You
may not care for New York City. Maybe you've never been,
Maybe you've been and you've hated it, Maybe you hate
all cities. All those things are totally understandable, completely understandable.
I'm not trying to talk you out of that, but
at least understand this. America's cities and America's rural area,
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they're all part of America, and New York City in
particular is our most important city when it comes to finances.
That's all kinds of there's just for a lot of reasons,
New York City is extremely important. So maybe you're watching
me right now from rural the Arkansas. I'm not suggesting
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you go to New York City. You might hate it,
but understand that New York City matters because it's on
our billboard. Meaning internationally, people will look at the things
that happen in New York City and we will take
that as or they will take that as well. That's
what America's like. For instance, London. How often do you
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see these reports out of London? Do you see London
on social media? How often have we brought up things
what's going on over there in London? But we have
these gangs, we have the You take that as being
the UK, don't you? Of course you do. It's human nature,
so do Why if New York City implodes more than
it already is, it's going to make the entire country
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look bad. And I care about that a great deal.
So now let's talk about this freak. You may very
well be the next mayor.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
The mayor will use their power to reject Donald Trump's fascism,
to stop massed ice agents from deporting our neighbors, and
to govern our city as a model for the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, he has many public statements, crazy public statements, public
statements destroying the NYPD. This is a man who's talked
about packing the subway for the homeless people. If he's mayor,
it's going to be very, very bad. How does this happen?
Why does this happen? Well, there is a coalition that
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we are fighting against as a nation right now, and
because of the steps the Democrat Party has taken over
the decades, we will have to fight against this coalition
for a very long time. This coalition is majorly powerful.
And here's what the coalition is. There are the upper crust,
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highly college educated elites, college educated white people. For the
most part, they are bred with American hatred. It is
engraved in them. The longer you spend on a college campus,
for the most part, the more communist you are going
to be. So these people have been indoctrinated firmly in
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the fact that this country sucks and that's why everybody
should get to come here and just pillage the place,
because this evil country deserves that kind of a thing.
That's one part of the coalition. The other part of
the coalition is the disloyal foreigner, the disloyal foreigner that
Democrats and Republicans have brought in by the million over
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the decades. Why would Democrats bring in twenty million new
foreigners in just four years under Joe Biden. And that's
not even talking about the tens of millions they brought
in beforehand. Just the twenty million under Joe Biden. Why
are they all about it? Why are they now protecting
these people from deportation? What you just watched, what happened
in New York City. Democrats understand that the bread and
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butter American, the red, white and blue American, wherever he
may be New York City or Montana or anywhere else,
is going to reject their disgusting, despicable communism. And he's
going to reject their goal of burning down the country.
But the foreigner, he's fine with it. Hand him a
welfare check, hand him a little bit of power, hand
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him a little bit of this, Bring in as many
of those people as possible, buy him off with a
five hundred dollars visa card. And you haven't just imported foreigners,
You've imported a voting army that will march to the
polls and put the communists in power forever. That is
why they love immigration. By the way, illegal and legal.
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Mass legal immigration is just as bad as mass illegal immigration.
By the way, In case you're wondering, Nah Jesse, has
he lost his mind? Is he going too far? Here's
one of the ads. The guy ran.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Rent Freeze reebuses universal childcare or SUSI gros.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Vote. Yeah, why do you think that is? This comes
back to a conversation when I've had so many times before.
Maybe this guy, as much as it pains me to
say it, maybe he now does accurately represent what New
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York City is. Just like ilhan Omer, which we've discussed
many times before, Rashida to leave these types. We get
mad when they say these horrible anti American things, and
we say we should kick him out of Congress. Why
they are representatives and they accurately represent their area. The
problem is not the specific Kami. The problem is the
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demographics of the country have radically changed. We have changed
our own people just destroying their minds in college, and
we've brought in a lot of others. And this guy,
if elected, can you imagine the things he will do
with his power. He's talking about arresting foreign leaders if
they come to town.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
And maya mum Dannie. Would he welcome Prime Minister net
you know who to New York City for the for
whatever he comes for. Given the US is not the
signature to the ICC, so he can travel to the
US unlike a lot of other countries with a mamm
doney welcome Benjamin to the city.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
No, as mayor, New York City would arrest Benjamin at Nyahu.
This is a city that our values are in line
with international law. It's time that our actions are also.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
How could they do that? How could they elect this man?
Maybe that's what New York City is now. We don't
like to accept these things, and it pains me because
I love the place. Maybe he is a very accurate
representation of what New York City has become, as painful
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as that may be. And look, when you think about
New York City, I bet you money, the NYPD comes
through your mind. I bet you it's one of the
top five things that pop in your mind when you
think about New York City. Actually, after nine to eleven,
all the heroines about the the NYPD, the largest, most powerful,
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highly trained police force on the planet. Well, surely New
Yorkers love the NYPD, right, I don't know the new
Democrat nominee said this about them.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Are you for defunding the police? Are you for a
seriously formed that feb.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
CASI On the ground, I am in favor of defunding
the police.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
We don't like the accurate representations we see of certain
areas of our country, but that doesn't change the fact
they're accurate representations. If I look in the mirror and
I'm cupcaking over my boxer shorts, I may not like
the fact that I've gotten fat, but it's not the
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mirror that's the problem. The mirror is accurately reflect what
I have become. I know that's sad. I know that
may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right. Talk
to a New York City expert about this in just
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Speaker 2 (10:21):
Grocery prices are out of control. The cost of eggs
and milk has skyrocketed. Dumb stores are even using dynamic pricing,
jacking up the cost over the course of a day
depending on what they can get away with. It doesn't
need to be this way. I'm Zarammbani and as mayor,
I will create a network of city owned grocery stores.
It's like a public option for produce. We will redirect
city funds from corporate supermarkets to city owned grocery stores
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whose mission is lower prices, not price gouging. These stores
will operate without a profit motive or having to pay
property taxes or rent, and we'll pass on those savings
to you.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Great, h that guy's probably going to be the next
mayor in New York CITYZ do joining me now, Caroline Downey,
Senior Fellow, Independent Women's Forum. Okay, Caroline, I love New
York City. Unlike a lot of my conservative friends, I
just adored the freaking place and it makes me sick
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to my stomach that this guy might be the mayor.
Is he going to be the mayor? Or? Is Eric Adam?
Does he have a shot?
Speaker 5 (11:23):
What? Well, Jesse, I'm a New York City resident and
my heart hurts for this city because it's amazing to
me that this guy even got this far. It was
shocking to see the rank choice results roll in last night.
Clearly the system does elevate radical candidates, even though many said,
oh actually gives the voices to moderates. That did not
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happen last night. But look, I think we have to
think about the general election. Like you said, there are
other boroughs besides Manhattan. Staten Island, for instance, has a
lot of Republicans. There's a lot of independents that still
haven't made their voices heard, and I'm not so sure
that Mom Donnie will win the day. Ultimately, I think
we're gonna see a lot of momentum fueled into Eric
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adams campaign now that he's an independent. He's a former cop,
so I think he's gonna have a lot of sway
with the law enforcement community that's the backbone of this city,
the NYPD and other first responders. And I mean, you know,
I think we got to see Cuomo or Curtis Leewah
on the Republican side basically back one or the other
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because we can't have a situation where one is cannibalizing
the other among voters and then you know, there's no
alternative to Mom Donnie, and Mom Donnie ends up winning
by default. But I don't think it's over yet. I'm
seeing a lot of murmurs on the ground from gen
Z conservatives like myself and Manhattan that are saying we're
gonna campaign for Eric Adams. We're all in for Eric
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Adams because he's not perfect. He's filled with scandals. His
reputation that is just like Cuomo was, you know, I mean,
it wasn't exactly killing nursing home patients, but it was
allegedly taking bribes, and he's a party boy. You know,
he likes to live it up in the clubs in
the middle of it Tuesday, you know, like five Block.
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But he also is more of a moderate and he
actually has governed I would say pretty well over the
last year. I think we're pretty happy with Eric adams leadership,
and I think now he's really got to step it up.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, honestly, I think I'm gonna have Eric Adams on
my show at this point in time, just to try
to say of New York. Although it is a little
weird at that age being in a club. I'm forty three.
I would rather die than go into a club anyway.
So can you can you explain to me the Cuomo factor,
because from the outside looking in, I'm not a New Yorker,
even though I go all the time, I just assumed
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with his name ID and thus the Cuomo name ID
period in New York, in the money behind him, I
kind of just assumed he was going to be the
next mayor of New York City and he couldn't beat
this fruitcake kami from Uganda.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Why you know, I think I felt the same thing
as you. The Cuomo dynasty is very strong. It carries
a lot of weight. The patriarch of the Cuomo family
is obviously Mario, whose name is on the bridge that
replaced the tap and Z. I mean, this family is
very well connected, and I would argue that they really
love this city. That because they have so many generations
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of political leadership in this city, they're very much devoted
to its cause, even if they sometimes have progressive, not
so great ideas. But Mom, Donnie is very green. I mean,
he hasn't been here that long, at least as a citizen.
He might have gone to I think it was Bronx
High School, but he was born in Uganda, and let's
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just zoom out here. Regardless of how long he's been
a native of Manhattan or hasn't been, his ideas fly
in the face of everything that is important to this
city and to this country. He has such a hostility,
not only vilization, he is fundamentally at odds with New
York City, which has been filled with these gen Z
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transplants who are subsidized by their parents who pay their rent.
They really haven't haven't worked hard, like like the blue
collar working class of New York City has to build
this City up, and you mentioned so with the Cuomo factor.
I think what was most interesting about the results breakdown
is that those who made I believe under fifteen fifty
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thousand dollars in income supported Puomo. So the working class,
the blue collar those Democrats supported Cuomo. The middle to
upper class, those who are considered more wealthier, the college educated,
they all voted for Mom Donnie. So so much for
the socialist candidate that is supposed to be representing the
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poor and you know, liberating the proletariat. The proletariat does
not want Mom Donnie because they're not stupid. They know
that rent control has been tried many times before in
New York City and it always fails. It always punishes
landlords and leads to their buildings to fall into disrepair.
And you could apply that principle to every single issue
across the board. The rich elite that are Democrats voted
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for Mom Donnie, and as soon as the policies they
voted for are actually implemented or actually imposed, they're going
to realize how much they suck and they're going to evacuate.
They're going to send their kids to private schools. They're
going to go to the suburbs, they're going to go
to Florida. And then who's going to be left in
Manhattan The poor people who didn't vote for this, and
they don't have the mobility to get out just as
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much as the rich people do.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Caroline, can you explain these elite of New York? Is
this when you vote for Let's say you're one of
these snooty, college educated, rich New Yorkers and you go
vote for this nutball communist. Do you do so just
so you can brag to your friends about it at parties?
Because I've known democrats like this in big cities. They
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act like the most left, they act left of MAO,
and it's almost like they can brag about it at parties.
It becomes almost a metal they wear on their chest
that hey, look at this crazy guy I supported. Is
there some of that there?
Speaker 5 (17:11):
I've seen this in the wild. There's a lot of
flexing and virtue signaling and a holier than thou mentality
I think among older, frankly boomer college educated elites and Manhattan,
and they've been very insulated. They've lived here for many years.
And that's not to say that they are any less
of New Yorkers but they are in such a bubble
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that they kind of forget that there's a larger country,
that there's other interests to be represented. And I think
it comes fundamentally from a place of guilt self flagellation,
which is, we somehow have something to repent for as
white upper class Americans, and so we're going to elect
a guy who is an avowed communist, who's a member
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of the Socialist Party. And then, of course it's part
of that identity politics framework that they're all bought into.
They think, you know, Israel needs to be disciplined, and
Mom Donnie is a Hamasnik. He's like if you took
any random agitator on a Columbia protest encampment and made
him there, that's basically who Zorn Mam Donnie is. And
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I just think the older generations of democratic New Yorkers
they think again, like you said, it gives them brownie points,
like woke brownie points with their friends. We saw Cynthia
Nixon is just one example of the celebrities who stumped
for Mom Donnie, and I believe also do tiktoks with
Mom Donnie. She was in the famous New York show
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Sex in the city, right, and that was an iconic
show of an iconic cultural you know, you could argue
masterpiece of the nineties. But she's so disconnected from the
actual problems of New York City. I mean, a lot
of these people, you know, I don't even think they
know how socialism starts. I mean, or how communism starts.
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Democratic socialism is basically communism on training wheels. But they
I don't think they really know that. I think they
just believe that it's going to make everything more equitable,
it's going to give them bragging rights with their friends.
But once it's actually implemented, we're going to see a
lot of suffering. We're going to see, you know, a
lot of not only inequities, but a lot of distortions
in the market. We're already seeing capital flight investment and
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financial firms flee, probably for the Winter Wall Street of Florida.
We're going to see another asset price boom. Rond de
Santis can't waite. But you know, there's just going to
be a kind of a brain drain of I think
opportunity and innovation out of New York and that trickles
down to the small businesses, and like I said, the
working class people who are going to face the consequences,
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but the rich won't.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Caroline. Is there a larger Muslim demographic in New York
City than people realize? I know New York City has
always had a million different demographics Italians, Chinese, and Jews,
and that everybody knows the history of New York City.
It's it's long. But there is an Islamic aspect to
this as well, where that population in New York has
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grown larger and therefore candidates like that are going to
have an easier time getting elected.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Well, look, New York City is very diverse. It's the
melting pot that's supposed to be the claim to fame.
But I think at some point it became a hotbed
of the border crisis. Like we know that that's true,
with at least Hispanic and Central American migrants flooding into
the city, overwhelming the facilities. But I think in tandem
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with that, you know, I do think that there's been
an increase and other kinds of migrants who have come
to that part of Manhattan. I mean, Mom, Donnie, you know,
like I said, he was raised in Uganda, or he
was born in Uganda, he had his early childhood there
and then he came over here. But I think the
biggest turning point in his his young intellectual career and
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then political career probably was when he went to Voting
College in Maine, which is your classic very progressive level
arts school, once again, very insulated, you know, just filled
with Marx's professors. Like, just just pick a random liberal
arts school in America, especially in the Northeast, especially in
New England, and you're gonna you're gonna get get an
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activist at the end of that. But yeah, I mean,
I think for him, it was probably written in stone
that he was going to be a radical democratic upstart.
It's just it's just very unfortunate that he made it
this far. And like, frankly, if it wasn't for the
ring choice voting system, I'm not so sure he would have.
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But that's a that's a real disappointment for New York City.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Caroline, thank you so much. I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
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know everybody's had their eyes focused all over the world
and all over the country. We're worried about a dirty
comedy being elected in New York. There are bombs being
dropped in Iran. But we have a domestic problem that, frankly,
is probably bigger than all those things, and that's our spending,
our debt and we still have a big, beautiful bill.
(23:32):
Maybe I don't know how ugly is the beautiful bill.
Let's ask the Senator about it. Joining me now, Senator
Ron Johnson of the Great State of Wisconsin, Senator, I
understand you just had a meeting at the White House
about all this. How'd that go?
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Listen? It went well, Cordial, I have to lay out
the problem we have here is the Democrats left us
such an enormous mess or actually messes the border that
has to be cleaned up. Wars a one point nine
trillion dollar average deaths over the last four years, when
prior to the pandemic the average defts it was six
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hundred and sixty billion dollars, about a third less. So
these are not easy issues to deal with. So, whether
it's the Speaker, whether it's majority of Leader Thune, whether
it's President Trump, we all want to rain and spending.
It's how do we do it. Unfortunately, we've got big
spenders in our party. We've got people demanding, you know,
high assault deductions, and again it's a difficult thing to do.
(24:30):
You know what my role has been is I've been
just trying to make everybody focus on how do you
solve a problems. First step admit you have when I
think most people admit we have one. But the second
important step is properly define it. And you know, I
think one of the problems I have with congressional leadership
is they say, well, the only numbers account are to
eighteen and fifty. Well, if that's all you're worried about,
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you end up the most common denominator and you end
up with a bill that just doesn't meet the moment.
And that's kind of what we have right now. It's
it is that's hosts historic desert reduction or spending reduction,
not spending reduction. The problem is it's historic by an
order of magnitude the spending increase. We had, well, two
trillion dollars increase spending in just one year. We're not
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even going to cut two trillion dollars over ten years.
So I appreciate the work the House has done, but
it's just it's just doesn't meet the moment.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Senator, can you help me understand what exactly people are
protecting in the bill that makes these deficits still so bad?
I'm not even going to ask you, obviously the name
names on who's protecting what But clearly people are protecting
ridiculous spending items. This can't all be salt deduction stuff,
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can it? What are people protecting that people like you
want to start.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
I just think they went about it the wrong way.
They started over seven trillion dollars, and they tried and
then suffered death by a thousand cuts, and they didn't
do what I suggested as a pat myself on the back.
But I went back and I suggested three pre pandemic
levels spinning off or spending options. Clinton nineteen ninety eight,
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Obama twenty fourteen, Trump twenty nineteen. They'll use those actralays
increase in by populace growth inflation. You start there, You
leave soci security, Medicare, and interest alone spend which you
need to spend for twenty twenty five, but all of
the outlays plus up by that control population growth inflation.
If you do that, your baseline budget be se between
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five point five and six point five trillion dollars. Now,
I've been being this drum beating my head against the
wall now since January first, when I first published my
Wall Street Journal article. Unfortunately, people just blow it off.
I don't know, that's just too many lines that too
much work or just I think it's more just stuck
in the old ways. Identify a couple of programs, tweak them,
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get a CBO score, pull a number out of the air,
one point five trillion, And then again that was just
pulled out of the air. That there's It bears no
relationship to anything. It's not any context, it's not half
of the you know what we need to do. It
just sounds like a big number and it's completely inadequate.
So again, coming from the business world, I keep saying,
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this would be easy. I would go to my managers.
Get hey, you guys, I said you could increase your
budgets based on inflation and the number of customers you served.
You're forty percent over that. What's wrong with you? Get
back in line or you're fired. That'd be about a
five minute conversation. I think most responsible business managers A
wouldn't increased their budgets at twenty three or forty or
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in comparison to the Clinton budgets like ninety percent over
what he spent fully inflated. But if you dial them
back in. But it's not that easy here in government unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Okay, I understand the President is pushing to have a
bill passed by July fourth, by Independence Day. Now July
fourth cometh, and that right soon into hear you talk,
it doesn't sound like we were about to have a bill.
Am I wrong?
Speaker 5 (28:06):
No?
Speaker 4 (28:06):
I think you're right. And listen, I don't mind the
pressure being applied to us, because now we're finally starting
to have the conversations. I mean, the committees, they've been
working their tail off, and listen, I really appreciate all
the work the Chairman create posts done of Senate Finance.
He's been involving us in these meetings. But this is
complex and it's hard. So now it's concentrating everybody's efforts.
So now we're starting to have some pretty interesting discussions.
(28:29):
I mean, I just came from lunch, and you know,
there's there's good back and forth, which is what you need.
These are these are difficult issues. Different states have different requirements,
different provisions that affect different states differently. These are centers
from those states. They represent their people, they represent their
their legislators. So uh, this isn't easy. So what I
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don't think, what I certainly don't want, is I don't
want this bill. I have no problem with leadership and
the Chairman of the House, you know, sending us the draft.
But now we need to take a look at things.
And what I proposed is you know, and yeah, show
you right here. This is my This is my line
by line bullet point of the different elements, different provisions
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of the bill with their scores. If it's red, that
means it's adding to the death sit. If it's black,
it's reduce the depth sit. There's generally more red on
here than black. But we ought to do as a
conference is lock ourselves in a room, go line by line,
element by elements, score by score, and based on the
definition of the problem. The fact that Biden on average
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incurred one point nine trillion dollar deficits per year right now,
the CBO score of the obb B the baseline is
somewhere between twenty one and twenty four trillion over ten years.
In O thereds two point one to two point four
trillion dollars. We got to do better than that. So,
based on that reality, do we really need to cut
that tax Do we really need to offer that tax credit?
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Do we really need to spend that amount of money
on that priority? That's the kind of work we ought
to do. Again, you rush this thing, we won't do
that work. And the last thing I want is for
Republicans to take the Nancy Pelosi approach and say, well,
we've got to pass this thing before we know what's
in it. We need to thoroughly know what's in it.
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I'd like to whatever the final text is, do an
AI scrub. And the question I'd ask the AI is
is there anything in here that'd be just perfect, for example,
a Tom Coburn wastebook. If it is, we better take
it out. Let's not be embarrassed by that.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
No doubt. All right, let's shift gears off this horribly
depressing topic, Senator, and I want to talk about something
that's somehow actually more horrific. We now know, according to
Cash Pateel, that not only did China get involved in
twenty twenties election in some way fake driver's licenses and whatnot,
That actually isn't even the most outrageous part. The most
outrageous part is the Federal Bureau of Investigation covered that up. Now, Senator,
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for me, that means the Federal Bureau of Investigation should
end completely the state when a secret state police agency
does something like that, the entire agency should be shut down.
But I'm not a naive human being. What can we
do from here? Who's going to prison?
Speaker 4 (31:13):
So let me describe the problem we've had here. Pam
Bondi gets into the attorney General's office there, Department Justice,
and they let go a lot of attorneys. You couldn't
trust him. They were obviously partisans. They're having a really
difficult time replacing those individuals. One of the big reasons is,
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for example, we've got a wonderful person judged Troopists from
Wisconsin represented Trump for thirty days during the recount. Everything
is above board. The Wisconsin Attorney general said what he
did was fine terms of the ultimate state of electors.
Now he's spent over a million dollars just defending himself
against that same attorney general in Wisconsin, who's using lawfair
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against the judge simply for representing Trump. So they make
examsamples of people like President Trump, they make examples of
Judge Troopis for just simply representing a client. Just happens
being now the President United States. It's like they would
never do that some of you who represented a triple
rapist murder, But boy, if you represented Trump, they're going
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to destroy you. They're going to destroy your finances, they're
going to destroy your career. So it's a real problem
now for the Department Justice to hire people to replace
the ones. And look, I'm hearing there's a couple hundred people.
That's a lot of manpower that you'd like working with
you to uncover this abuse, to prosecute crime that they
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don't have it. So listen, there's a real challenge when
Republican administration comes into these partisan agencies. It's almost impossible
to gain control of them. And you only got four years.
They just wait out, So listen, this is a real challenge.
I am not criticizing Cash Betel or Pam or President Trump.
This is just maybe be an insurmountable task. So we
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have high expectations, but understand, the deep state is powerful,
it is deep, it's highly partisan and not in our favor.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
What do they serve for lunch at the White House? Senator,
we're talking. We were talking salads, burgers, steaks. What do
they serve for lunch at the White House? We talk
in salads, steaks. Please tell me it was something smash burgers.
Tell me it was something decent. The White House I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
I haven't eaten there for many, many years.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
It's too bad. I'm dying to know. Senator, thank you.
I appreciate it. All right, Josh Hammer was there in
Israel and a bomb shelter a couple of days ago.
Let's talk to him next. Well, like we said, foreign
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policy is very complicated. Combat very complicated. As I've mentioned
a million times, in war, the first casualty is the truth.
That's an old, old old saying. And last week was wild.
I mean true, this week has been wild Israel, Iran, America.
What's the reality of it. It's hard to wade through everything,
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but one of the best ways to do that is
talk to somebody who was actually there in some form
or fashion. And Josh Hammer was, of course, you know,
Josh Hammer joining me now, my buddy, Josh Hammer, author
of the book Israel and Civilization. Excuse me, okay, Josh,
the floor is yours. What happened last week?
Speaker 6 (34:39):
Well, Jesse, I was there, My young family was there,
my wife, our six month old baby, and I. We
were there when when the war started. We were there
for we're there for purely personal reasons, actually for my
wife's cousin's wedding, and we had a birthday party, a
lot of I had a book event, but personal stuff.
And on the fourth or fifth night we were there,
I suppose it was the sirens went on off at
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three am and the rest has been history. So for
a few days we were running in and out of
bomb shelters. And the thing to bear in mind, Jesse,
is that it's usually there'll be an advance warning on
your cell phone, like a loud siren, noise will go
off to say, be near a bomb shelter. Not always sometimes,
but when the sirens in your local vicinity and the
town actually go off, you have ninety seconds, maybe two minutes,
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to drop whatever the heck it is you're doing and run,
essentially run for your life to the safe ruin the house,
the bomb shelter. So you can imagine how this was
starting to wear on us. Again, our six month old
baby was there. This is no joke, right, So the
fourth night that we were there, after the war started,
I got reports of a neighboring town. We were staying
in the Tel Aviv suburbs, a neighboring town. One of
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the missiles evaded the air defense and had a direct
hit on the bomb shelter, and two people in the
bomb shelter actually tragically died. So they did everything they
could and the bomb shelter did not protect them. So
I said, that's it, we're again the heck add here.
It did a little research. I live in Florida, as
you know. I came across a program that Governor Ron
santas a partner with to get Americans out. I got
in touch with an amazing Florida State center named Jay Collins,
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who was on the ground in Israel and Jordan getting
Americans out. So it was a three and a half
day journey, went from Israel to the Jordanian border, up
to a mom, the capitol of Jordan, then to Cyprus,
then to Tampa, where Governor Santis met us there. He
actually asked me to join him at a press conference
there at the airport last Friday, and then we got
back to South Florida. So it was quite an ordeal
to put a mildly there and I saw some things
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that don't necessarily particularly care to see again. I saw
one factory that took a direct hit from an Iranian
ballistic missile. It was on fire with billowing black smoke.
The likes of which you know, that's an image that
you will not forget for a long time. I mean,
Israel had become an active war zone, right, you know,
the idea of massade did a lot of amazing stuff
in those first days of the war inside of Iran,
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but Israel itself had become a war zone and it
was time to get our family out. So thank god
we're home safely, and I'm really happy to be here
talking to Jose.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Okay, one, I'm glad you're saying my brother too. That
is a story that is going to be told in
your family for quite some time. So that's at least
something I need you to describe for me. The I'm
gonna ask some details because people are curious the bomb shelters.
Are they in people's homes? Are they large? Are they small?
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How many people go to these bomb shelters? Because this
is the world I ask it, Josh. I mean, you
lived it, but this is the world we can't understand
here in America, and I want you to lay it
out for us. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
Sure, no, great question. So the first thing to bear
in mind, Jesse, is that most of the new construction
in Israel, to be clear, the old buildings that existed
forty fifty years ago. They weren't built with bomb shelters.
It wasn't really a thing, so maybe they were able
to kind of add it on after the fact there.
But the newer buildings typically have one room of the
house that is extra fortified, I mean extra layers of
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concrete theory. You know, if you knock on the wall,
you will you will essentially notice the difference between that
room and the other rooms there. So we were staying
primarily the family friend's house in the Broader Tellvy suburbs
and one of the one of the bedrooms on the
ground floor in the basement was the safe room. So
that is where we evacuated. But a couple sundays ago,
we were at a neighboring town where my wife's grandmother lives.
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She lives in one of these older buildings and they
had to turn a large common area room on the
ground floor of the apartment building into the safe room.
And there's a lot of elderly people there, so for
you know, for instance, my wife's grandma's in a wheelchair,
and think about that, that's really logistically difficult to get
an old woman in a wheelchair from the third floor
down to the safe room with the sirens. It's really awful, honestly,
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it's a frankly an awful reality. The final thing that
that thing is worth noting about this is these bomb
shelters were typically built and this is another thing that
I think the American media has not really covered. These
bomb shelters were built with these hammas fired rockets and
mortars in mind, they were not necessarily built with Irani
and hypersonic ballistic missiles flying two thousand miles in mins.
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That is an apples to oranges comparison. These two things
are simply not the same thing. So that is why
there are been Israeli casualties, is that the bomb shelters, tragically,
they're typically doing their job, thank god for that there,
but the air defense is letting too many missiles through
and some people tragically are dying, which again is why
I want to get out. But it's no way to
live Jesse. It is simply no way to live your
life there, unfortunately, tragically. I think for a lot of
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Israelis it's kind of just the mentality. They know that,
they know this is the case. They deal with it there.
But you know, as a non Israelian as American there.
It was pretty harrowing to deal with for a few.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Days, okay, Josh. The mood of the people there when
it comes to like, I don't know if this whole
thing's over. Frankly, I have my doubts because Iran hasn't
changed their stance on things. Israel is perfectly aware that Iran.
Setting that aside that I doubt the whole thing's over.
What is the mood of the Israeli people with all this?
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Because this has been going on for quite some time now,
so I should clarify I'm talking the war itself, I'm
talking about Gaza, I'm talking about Iran, I'm talking about
all this stuff. Where are they at with all this?
So they're sick of? Are they all in? Where are
they right?
Speaker 6 (40:03):
So part of the whole debate, Jsu, for the past
couple of weeks has been who started this? You know,
what is the starting point of the war. I've heard
some people say this is Israel's war of aggression in
Iran with respect, That's just not really accurate, right, I mean,
at a bare minimum, the current war against Israel started
on October seven, twenty twenty three, Hamas received lots of
training and funding from Iran. There has Bala, who these
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all the various Iranian tentacles have been trying to go
after Israel. Indeed, they've been going after American ships and
going after Americans themselves. I mean, the US Marine barracks
bombing in Beirut Lebanon killing two hundred and forty plus
Marines back in the early nineteen eighties came from an
Iranian proxy. Hasbalah so to me, the beginning of Iran's
war against what they referred to as the Little Saint
of Israel and what they referred to as the Big Saint.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Of the United States.
Speaker 6 (40:48):
This war essentially starts when the regime is formed with
the hostage crisis that ended the Jimmy Carter presidency back
in nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
There.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
So that really is how far back this goes.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Now.
Speaker 6 (40:59):
Having said that, with that context, and given the fact
that this has been going on for so long, Leron's
been chanting death to Israel, death to America for my
entire life, essentially, It's definitely my entire adult life.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
There.
Speaker 6 (41:10):
You know, Iran is not a particularly contested issue among
the Israeli political spectrum. And I'll give you an example.
So in twenty sixteen, I was there with a law
school delegation and we met with a very far left
member of the Israeli parliament. This guy was so far left,
totally literal socialist. He was actually supporting Jesse a Kiddie,
not Bernie Sanders in the primary back then in twenty sixteen.
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Even this guy, he's a Looney Tunes Marxist socialist. Even
this guy was actually very sober and hawkish on the
Iranian issue. Iran is simply not a contested issue. Israelis
know that Iran is an existential threat, at least a
nuclear armedran there. So this is a very very popular operation.
The next NYA who has done there on the home front,
there's very little doubt about that.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
I think. Okay, Josh, let's I'm not switching gears here,
but let's talk about the political the environment in Israel,
because it is a divided country just like ours. Is Netahu,
the current government. Is it unpopular? Is it popular? Is
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it what are the reasons behind it?
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Right?
Speaker 6 (42:13):
So, even though Iran is not particularly contested issue, NETANYAHUO
himself is a is a deeply polarizing divisive figure in Israel,
the same way that Donald Trump is a deeply polarizing
and divisive figure. They're actually shockingly similar, Jesse. If you
look at the biographies of Donald Trump and Bibi Netanyahu,
there are more similarities, frankly than differences. They've both been
prosecuted by unprecedented, a historical lawfare. They're literally dragging Natanyakhu
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into court Jesse during this war for alleged bribery charges.
It's the exact same thing. The deep state, the prosecutors,
the judges, they're all in there against him, the exact
same way that Jack Smith and the whole Democrat lawfair
complex was against Donald Trumpierre. The similarities are frankly outright shocking,
but this probably will boost Netanyakhu's domestic political standing if
I had to guess again for the very simple reason
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that Iran has been the sort of Dama please hovering
over the Israeli people for decades. And again, there are
plenty of issues in Israel that are very hotly divided.
The Palestine issue is definitely an issue where Israelis are
mixed minds, although increasingly they reject the so called two
state solution. After October seventh, the issue of the Hierdine,
the so called ultra Orthodox entering the idea of the
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military draft. That is a very hotly debated issue. There
are plenty of issues over there that are hotly debated,
but the Iranian issue is just really not one of them. Again,
maybe the Arab Israelis are different, but the Jewish Israelies,
I think, no matter whether you are right, center or
left whatever, understood that this regime cannot get a nuclear
weapon because they say they want to commit, they say
they want to commit a second Holocaust, and they've given
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no indication whatsoever that they will not do that. They
get a nuclear weapon there. So I think it's a
very popular operation in Israel. I think Nintiyakuo probably stands
to benefit politically from it.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Josh, I'm glad you and yours are saved. My brother,
welcome back home. Take care all right? The wild, wild world, right,
wild way to live. Say, always be two minutes from
a bomb shelter. Anyway, we need to lighten the mood now, thanks.
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I like jd Vance. It's time to light in the mood.
By the way, I like JD Vance. I greatly enjoy
the dynamic between JD. Vans and Trump. Trump very clearly
likes JD. Vance gives them all kinds of leeway to
speak and important meetings, and well, I thought this little
moment showed these two get along pretty well.
Speaker 6 (44:42):
And the President looks over at me, puts the foreign
leader on mute, and says, this is not going very well.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
And he presses the red button and my eyes get
really big, and I'm like, mister President, you know what
just happened. And he he looks at me and he
goes nuclear.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
Clear.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
And two minutes later, a guy walks in with the
diet coke and he looks back at me and he says,
it wasn't nuclear, It's just the diet coke button.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
And that's.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
So that's the kind of guy, my fellow Republicans, that
we have as the president of the United States. That's
a great story, all right, I'll see
New York City just nominated a communists. We'll talk about
that and why that kind of thing happened. Senator Ron
Johnson is here to update us on the budget, Josh Hammer,
what happened when he was in Israel, all that more
coming up. I'm right now. Okay, New York City, let's
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go ahead and knock this out right off the bat.
New York City. Last night, if you were paying attention,
which most people were, we found out this Mamdani guy
won the Democrat nomination to be the next mayor of
New York City. Now let me pause before we get
into him and how this kind of thing happens, and
(00:48):
let me just explain something we've talked about before. You
may not care for New York City. Maybe you've never been,
Maybe you've been and you've hated it, Maybe you hate
all cities. All those things are totally understandable, completely understandable.
I'm not trying to talk you out of that, but
at least understand this. America's cities and America's rural area,
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they're all part of America, and New York City in
particular is our most important city when it comes to finances.
That's all kinds of there's just for a lot of reasons,
New York City is extremely important. So maybe you're watching
me right now from rural the Arkansas. I'm not suggesting
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you go to New York City. You might hate it,
but understand that New York City matters because it's on
our billboard. Meaning internationally, people will look at the things
that happen in New York City and we will take
that as or they will take that as well. That's
what America's like. For instance, London. How often do you
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see these reports out of London? Do you see London
on social media? How often have we brought up things
what's going on over there in London? But we have
these gangs, we have the You take that as being
the UK, don't you? Of course you do. It's human nature,
so do Why if New York City implodes more than
it already is, it's going to make the entire country
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look bad. And I care about that a great deal.
So now let's talk about this freak. You may very
well be the next mayor.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
The mayor will use their power to reject Donald Trump's fascism,
to stop massed ice agents from deporting our neighbors, and
to govern our city as a model for the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, he has many public statements, crazy public statements, public
statements destroying the NYPD. This is a man who's talked
about packing the subway for the homeless people. If he's mayor,
it's going to be very, very bad. How does this happen?
Why does this happen? Well, there is a coalition that
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we are fighting against as a nation right now, and
because of the steps the Democrat Party has taken over
the decades, we will have to fight against this coalition
for a very long time. This coalition is majorly powerful.
And here's what the coalition is. There are the upper crust,
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highly college educated elites, college educated white people. For the
most part, they are bred with American hatred. It is
engraved in them. The longer you spend on a college campus,
for the most part, the more communist you are going
to be. So these people have been indoctrinated firmly in
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the fact that this country sucks and that's why everybody
should get to come here and just pillage the place,
because this evil country deserves that kind of a thing.
That's one part of the coalition. The other part of
the coalition is the disloyal foreigner, the disloyal foreigner that
Democrats and Republicans have brought in by the million over
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the decades. Why would Democrats bring in twenty million new
foreigners in just four years under Joe Biden. And that's
not even talking about the tens of millions they brought
in beforehand. Just the twenty million under Joe Biden. Why
are they all about it? Why are they now protecting
these people from deportation? What you just watched, what happened
in New York City. Democrats understand that the bread and
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butter American, the red, white and blue American, wherever he
may be New York City or Montana or anywhere else,
is going to reject their disgusting, despicable communism. And he's
going to reject their goal of burning down the country.
But the foreigner, he's fine with it. Hand him a
welfare check, hand him a little bit of power, hand
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him a little bit of this, Bring in as many
of those people as possible, buy him off with a
five hundred dollars visa card. And you haven't just imported foreigners,
You've imported a voting army that will march to the
polls and put the communists in power forever. That is
why they love immigration. By the way, illegal and legal.
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Mass legal immigration is just as bad as mass illegal immigration.
By the way, In case you're wondering, Nah Jesse, has
he lost his mind? Is he going too far? Here's
one of the ads. The guy ran.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Rent Freeze reebuses universal childcare or SUSI gros.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Vote. Yeah, why do you think that is? This comes
back to a conversation when I've had so many times before.
Maybe this guy, as much as it pains me to
say it, maybe he now does accurately represent what New
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York City is. Just like ilhan Omer, which we've discussed
many times before, Rashida to leave these types. We get
mad when they say these horrible anti American things, and
we say we should kick him out of Congress. Why
they are representatives and they accurately represent their area. The
problem is not the specific Kami. The problem is the
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demographics of the country have radically changed. We have changed
our own people just destroying their minds in college, and
we've brought in a lot of others. And this guy,
if elected, can you imagine the things he will do
with his power. He's talking about arresting foreign leaders if
they come to town.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
And maya mum Dannie. Would he welcome Prime Minister net
you know who to New York City for the for
whatever he comes for. Given the US is not the
signature to the ICC, so he can travel to the
US unlike a lot of other countries with a mamm
doney welcome Benjamin to the city.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
No, as mayor, New York City would arrest Benjamin at Nyahu.
This is a city that our values are in line
with international law. It's time that our actions are also.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
How could they do that? How could they elect this man?
Maybe that's what New York City is now. We don't
like to accept these things, and it pains me because
I love the place. Maybe he is a very accurate
representation of what New York City has become, as painful
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as that may be. And look, when you think about
New York City, I bet you money, the NYPD comes
through your mind. I bet you it's one of the
top five things that pop in your mind when you
think about New York City. Actually, after nine to eleven,
all the heroines about the the NYPD, the largest, most powerful,
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highly trained police force on the planet. Well, surely New
Yorkers love the NYPD, right, I don't know the new
Democrat nominee said this about them.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Are you for defunding the police? Are you for a
seriously formed that feb.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
CASI On the ground, I am in favor of defunding
the police.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
We don't like the accurate representations we see of certain
areas of our country, but that doesn't change the fact
they're accurate representations. If I look in the mirror and
I'm cupcaking over my boxer shorts, I may not like
the fact that I've gotten fat, but it's not the
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mirror that's the problem. The mirror is accurately reflect what
I have become. I know that's sad. I know that
may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right. Talk
to a New York City expert about this in just
a moment. Before we do that, let me talk to
you about your cell phone. You need a new mobile
(09:18):
provider because the mobile provider you currently have is garbage,
Verizon AT and T T Mobile. They charge you way
too much because they put a store on every single
street corner, which you have to pay for. And these
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the poisoning of American culture. Switch to pure talk. My
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bill got cut in half when I switched to pure talk.
Pure talk is so American. They hire Americans speaking of foreigners.
When you get a hold of somebody at pure talk,
it'll be an American who speaks English, not bet beep
at a call center somewhere.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Look, can I happy?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
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Keep your phone, keep your phone number. If you want
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patriotic cell phone company peertalk dot com slash jessetv. We'll
be back.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Grocery prices are out of control. The cost of eggs
and milk has skyrocketed. Dumb stores are even using dynamic pricing,
jacking up the cost over the course of a day
depending on what they can get away with. It doesn't
need to be this way. I'm Zarammbani and as mayor,
I will create a network of city owned grocery stores.
It's like a public option for produce. We will redirect
city funds from corporate supermarkets to city owned grocery stores
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whose mission is lower prices, not price gouging. These stores
will operate without a profit motive or having to pay
property taxes or rent, and we'll pass on those savings
to you.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Great, h that guy's probably going to be the next
mayor in New York CITYZ do joining me now, Caroline Downey,
Senior Fellow, Independent Women's Forum. Okay, Caroline, I love New
York City. Unlike a lot of my conservative friends, I
just adored the freaking place and it makes me sick
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to my stomach that this guy might be the mayor.
Is he going to be the mayor? Or? Is Eric Adam?
Does he have a shot?
Speaker 5 (11:23):
What? Well, Jesse, I'm a New York City resident and
my heart hurts for this city because it's amazing to
me that this guy even got this far. It was
shocking to see the rank choice results roll in last night.
Clearly the system does elevate radical candidates, even though many said,
oh actually gives the voices to moderates. That did not
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happen last night. But look, I think we have to
think about the general election. Like you said, there are
other boroughs besides Manhattan. Staten Island, for instance, has a
lot of Republicans. There's a lot of independents that still
haven't made their voices heard, and I'm not so sure
that Mom Donnie will win the day. Ultimately, I think
we're gonna see a lot of momentum fueled into Eric
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adams campaign now that he's an independent. He's a former cop,
so I think he's gonna have a lot of sway
with the law enforcement community that's the backbone of this city,
the NYPD and other first responders. And I mean, you know,
I think we got to see Cuomo or Curtis Leewah
on the Republican side basically back one or the other
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because we can't have a situation where one is cannibalizing
the other among voters and then you know, there's no
alternative to Mom Donnie, and Mom Donnie ends up winning
by default. But I don't think it's over yet. I'm
seeing a lot of murmurs on the ground from gen
Z conservatives like myself and Manhattan that are saying we're
gonna campaign for Eric Adams. We're all in for Eric
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Adams because he's not perfect. He's filled with scandals. His
reputation that is just like Cuomo was, you know, I mean,
it wasn't exactly killing nursing home patients, but it was
allegedly taking bribes, and he's a party boy. You know,
he likes to live it up in the clubs in
the middle of it Tuesday, you know, like five Block.
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But he also is more of a moderate and he
actually has governed I would say pretty well over the
last year. I think we're pretty happy with Eric adams leadership,
and I think now he's really got to step it up.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, honestly, I think I'm gonna have Eric Adams on
my show at this point in time, just to try
to say of New York. Although it is a little
weird at that age being in a club. I'm forty three.
I would rather die than go into a club anyway.
So can you can you explain to me the Cuomo factor,
because from the outside looking in, I'm not a New Yorker,
even though I go all the time, I just assumed
(13:45):
with his name ID and thus the Cuomo name ID
period in New York, in the money behind him, I
kind of just assumed he was going to be the
next mayor of New York City and he couldn't beat
this fruitcake kami from Uganda.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Why you know, I think I felt the same thing
as you. The Cuomo dynasty is very strong. It carries
a lot of weight. The patriarch of the Cuomo family
is obviously Mario, whose name is on the bridge that
replaced the tap and Z. I mean, this family is
very well connected, and I would argue that they really
love this city. That because they have so many generations
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of political leadership in this city, they're very much devoted
to its cause, even if they sometimes have progressive, not
so great ideas. But Mom, Donnie is very green. I mean,
he hasn't been here that long, at least as a citizen.
He might have gone to I think it was Bronx
High School, but he was born in Uganda, and let's
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just zoom out here. Regardless of how long he's been
a native of Manhattan or hasn't been, his ideas fly
in the face of everything that is important to this
city and to this country. He has such a hostility,
not only vilization, he is fundamentally at odds with New
York City, which has been filled with these gen Z
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transplants who are subsidized by their parents who pay their rent.
They really haven't haven't worked hard, like like the blue
collar working class of New York City has to build
this City up, and you mentioned so with the Cuomo factor.
I think what was most interesting about the results breakdown
is that those who made I believe under fifteen fifty
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thousand dollars in income supported Puomo. So the working class,
the blue collar those Democrats supported Cuomo. The middle to
upper class, those who are considered more wealthier, the college educated,
they all voted for Mom Donnie. So so much for
the socialist candidate that is supposed to be representing the
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poor and you know, liberating the proletariat. The proletariat does
not want Mom Donnie because they're not stupid. They know
that rent control has been tried many times before in
New York City and it always fails. It always punishes
landlords and leads to their buildings to fall into disrepair.
And you could apply that principle to every single issue
across the board. The rich elite that are Democrats voted
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for Mom Donnie, and as soon as the policies they
voted for are actually implemented or actually imposed, they're going
to realize how much they suck and they're going to evacuate.
They're going to send their kids to private schools. They're
going to go to the suburbs, they're going to go
to Florida. And then who's going to be left in
Manhattan The poor people who didn't vote for this, and
they don't have the mobility to get out just as
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much as the rich people do.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Caroline, can you explain these elite of New York? Is
this when you vote for Let's say you're one of
these snooty, college educated, rich New Yorkers and you go
vote for this nutball communist. Do you do so just
so you can brag to your friends about it at parties?
Because I've known democrats like this in big cities. They
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act like the most left, they act left of MAO,
and it's almost like they can brag about it at parties.
It becomes almost a metal they wear on their chest
that hey, look at this crazy guy I supported. Is
there some of that there?
Speaker 5 (17:11):
I've seen this in the wild. There's a lot of
flexing and virtue signaling and a holier than thou mentality
I think among older, frankly boomer college educated elites and Manhattan,
and they've been very insulated. They've lived here for many years.
And that's not to say that they are any less
of New Yorkers but they are in such a bubble
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that they kind of forget that there's a larger country,
that there's other interests to be represented. And I think
it comes fundamentally from a place of guilt self flagellation,
which is, we somehow have something to repent for as
white upper class Americans, and so we're going to elect
a guy who is an avowed communist, who's a member
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of the Socialist Party. And then, of course it's part
of that identity politics framework that they're all bought into.
They think, you know, Israel needs to be disciplined, and
Mom Donnie is a Hamasnik. He's like if you took
any random agitator on a Columbia protest encampment and made
him there, that's basically who Zorn Mam Donnie is. And
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I just think the older generations of democratic New Yorkers
they think again, like you said, it gives them brownie points,
like woke brownie points with their friends. We saw Cynthia
Nixon is just one example of the celebrities who stumped
for Mom Donnie, and I believe also do tiktoks with
Mom Donnie. She was in the famous New York show
(18:37):
Sex in the city, right, and that was an iconic
show of an iconic cultural you know, you could argue
masterpiece of the nineties. But she's so disconnected from the
actual problems of New York City. I mean, a lot
of these people, you know, I don't even think they
know how socialism starts. I mean, or how communism starts.
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Democratic socialism is basically communism on training wheels. But they
I don't think they really know that. I think they
just believe that it's going to make everything more equitable,
it's going to give them bragging rights with their friends.
But once it's actually implemented, we're going to see a
lot of suffering. We're going to see, you know, a
lot of not only inequities, but a lot of distortions
in the market. We're already seeing capital flight investment and
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financial firms flee, probably for the Winter Wall Street of Florida.
We're going to see another asset price boom. Rond de
Santis can't waite. But you know, there's just going to
be a kind of a brain drain of I think
opportunity and innovation out of New York and that trickles
down to the small businesses, and like I said, the
working class people who are going to face the consequences,
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but the rich won't.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Caroline. Is there a larger Muslim demographic in New York
City than people realize? I know New York City has
always had a million different demographics Italians, Chinese, and Jews,
and that everybody knows the history of New York City.
It's it's long. But there is an Islamic aspect to
this as well, where that population in New York has
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grown larger and therefore candidates like that are going to
have an easier time getting elected.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Well, look, New York City is very diverse. It's the
melting pot that's supposed to be the claim to fame.
But I think at some point it became a hotbed
of the border crisis. Like we know that that's true,
with at least Hispanic and Central American migrants flooding into
the city, overwhelming the facilities. But I think in tandem
(20:41):
with that, you know, I do think that there's been
an increase and other kinds of migrants who have come
to that part of Manhattan. I mean, Mom, Donnie, you know,
like I said, he was raised in Uganda, or he
was born in Uganda, he had his early childhood there
and then he came over here. But I think the
biggest turning point in his his young intellectual career and
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then political career probably was when he went to Voting
College in Maine, which is your classic very progressive level
arts school, once again, very insulated, you know, just filled
with Marx's professors. Like, just just pick a random liberal
arts school in America, especially in the Northeast, especially in
New England, and you're gonna you're gonna get get an
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activist at the end of that. But yeah, I mean,
I think for him, it was probably written in stone
that he was going to be a radical democratic upstart.
It's just it's just very unfortunate that he made it
this far. And like, frankly, if it wasn't for the
ring choice voting system, I'm not so sure he would have.
(21:45):
But that's a that's a real disappointment for New York City.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Caroline, thank you so much. I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
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dot com. Jesse Kelly, we'll be back all right. I
(23:11):
know everybody's had their eyes focused all over the world
and all over the country. We're worried about a dirty
comedy being elected in New York. There are bombs being
dropped in Iran. But we have a domestic problem that, frankly,
is probably bigger than all those things, and that's our spending,
our debt and we still have a big, beautiful bill.
(23:32):
Maybe I don't know how ugly is the beautiful bill.
Let's ask the Senator about it. Joining me now, Senator
Ron Johnson of the Great State of Wisconsin, Senator, I
understand you just had a meeting at the White House
about all this. How'd that go?
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Listen? It went well, Cordial, I have to lay out
the problem we have here is the Democrats left us
such an enormous mess or actually messes the border that
has to be cleaned up. Wars a one point nine
trillion dollar average deaths over the last four years, when
prior to the pandemic the average defts it was six
(24:06):
hundred and sixty billion dollars, about a third less. So
these are not easy issues to deal with. So, whether
it's the Speaker, whether it's majority of Leader Thune, whether
it's President Trump, we all want to rain and spending.
It's how do we do it. Unfortunately, we've got big
spenders in our party. We've got people demanding, you know,
high assault deductions, and again it's a difficult thing to do.
(24:30):
You know what my role has been is I've been
just trying to make everybody focus on how do you
solve a problems. First step admit you have when I
think most people admit we have one. But the second
important step is properly define it. And you know, I
think one of the problems I have with congressional leadership
is they say, well, the only numbers account are to
eighteen and fifty. Well, if that's all you're worried about,
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you end up the most common denominator and you end
up with a bill that just doesn't meet the moment.
And that's kind of what we have right now. It's
it is that's hosts historic desert reduction or spending reduction,
not spending reduction. The problem is it's historic by an
order of magnitude the spending increase. We had, well, two
trillion dollars increase spending in just one year. We're not
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even going to cut two trillion dollars over ten years.
So I appreciate the work the House has done, but
it's just it's just doesn't meet the moment.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Senator, can you help me understand what exactly people are
protecting in the bill that makes these deficits still so bad?
I'm not even going to ask you, obviously the name
names on who's protecting what But clearly people are protecting
ridiculous spending items. This can't all be salt deduction stuff,
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can it? What are people protecting that people like you
want to start.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
I just think they went about it the wrong way.
They started over seven trillion dollars, and they tried and
then suffered death by a thousand cuts, and they didn't
do what I suggested as a pat myself on the back.
But I went back and I suggested three pre pandemic
levels spinning off or spending options. Clinton nineteen ninety eight,
(26:10):
Obama twenty fourteen, Trump twenty nineteen. They'll use those actralays
increase in by populace growth inflation. You start there, You
leave soci security, Medicare, and interest alone spend which you
need to spend for twenty twenty five, but all of
the outlays plus up by that control population growth inflation.
If you do that, your baseline budget be se between
(26:31):
five point five and six point five trillion dollars. Now,
I've been being this drum beating my head against the
wall now since January first, when I first published my
Wall Street Journal article. Unfortunately, people just blow it off.
I don't know, that's just too many lines that too
much work or just I think it's more just stuck
in the old ways. Identify a couple of programs, tweak them,
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get a CBO score, pull a number out of the air,
one point five trillion, And then again that was just
pulled out of the air. That there's It bears no
relationship to anything. It's not any context, it's not half
of the you know what we need to do. It
just sounds like a big number and it's completely inadequate.
So again, coming from the business world, I keep saying,
(27:13):
this would be easy. I would go to my managers.
Get hey, you guys, I said you could increase your
budgets based on inflation and the number of customers you served.
You're forty percent over that. What's wrong with you? Get
back in line or you're fired. That'd be about a
five minute conversation. I think most responsible business managers A
wouldn't increased their budgets at twenty three or forty or
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in comparison to the Clinton budgets like ninety percent over
what he spent fully inflated. But if you dial them
back in. But it's not that easy here in government unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Okay, I understand the President is pushing to have a
bill passed by July fourth, by Independence Day. Now July
fourth cometh, and that right soon into hear you talk,
it doesn't sound like we were about to have a bill.
Am I wrong?
Speaker 5 (28:06):
No?
Speaker 4 (28:06):
I think you're right. And listen, I don't mind the
pressure being applied to us, because now we're finally starting
to have the conversations. I mean, the committees, they've been
working their tail off, and listen, I really appreciate all
the work the Chairman create posts done of Senate Finance.
He's been involving us in these meetings. But this is
complex and it's hard. So now it's concentrating everybody's efforts.
So now we're starting to have some pretty interesting discussions.
(28:29):
I mean, I just came from lunch, and you know,
there's there's good back and forth, which is what you need.
These are these are difficult issues. Different states have different requirements,
different provisions that affect different states differently. These are centers
from those states. They represent their people, they represent their
their legislators. So uh, this isn't easy. So what I
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don't think, what I certainly don't want, is I don't
want this bill. I have no problem with leadership and
the Chairman of the House, you know, sending us the draft.
But now we need to take a look at things.
And what I proposed is you know, and yeah, show
you right here. This is my This is my line
by line bullet point of the different elements, different provisions
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of the bill with their scores. If it's red, that
means it's adding to the death sit. If it's black,
it's reduce the depth sit. There's generally more red on
here than black. But we ought to do as a
conference is lock ourselves in a room, go line by line,
element by elements, score by score, and based on the
definition of the problem. The fact that Biden on average
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incurred one point nine trillion dollar deficits per year right now,
the CBO score of the obb B the baseline is
somewhere between twenty one and twenty four trillion over ten years.
In O thereds two point one to two point four
trillion dollars. We got to do better than that. So,
based on that reality, do we really need to cut
that tax Do we really need to offer that tax credit?
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Do we really need to spend that amount of money
on that priority? That's the kind of work we ought
to do. Again, you rush this thing, we won't do
that work. And the last thing I want is for
Republicans to take the Nancy Pelosi approach and say, well,
we've got to pass this thing before we know what's
in it. We need to thoroughly know what's in it.
(30:13):
I'd like to whatever the final text is, do an
AI scrub. And the question I'd ask the AI is
is there anything in here that'd be just perfect, for example,
a Tom Coburn wastebook. If it is, we better take
it out. Let's not be embarrassed by that.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
No doubt. All right, let's shift gears off this horribly
depressing topic, Senator, and I want to talk about something
that's somehow actually more horrific. We now know, according to
Cash Pateel, that not only did China get involved in
twenty twenties election in some way fake driver's licenses and whatnot,
That actually isn't even the most outrageous part. The most
outrageous part is the Federal Bureau of Investigation covered that up. Now, Senator,
(30:57):
for me, that means the Federal Bureau of Investigation should
end completely the state when a secret state police agency
does something like that, the entire agency should be shut down.
But I'm not a naive human being. What can we
do from here? Who's going to prison?
Speaker 4 (31:13):
So let me describe the problem we've had here. Pam
Bondi gets into the attorney General's office there, Department Justice,
and they let go a lot of attorneys. You couldn't
trust him. They were obviously partisans. They're having a really
difficult time replacing those individuals. One of the big reasons is,
(31:34):
for example, we've got a wonderful person judged Troopists from
Wisconsin represented Trump for thirty days during the recount. Everything
is above board. The Wisconsin Attorney general said what he
did was fine terms of the ultimate state of electors.
Now he's spent over a million dollars just defending himself
against that same attorney general in Wisconsin, who's using lawfair
(31:55):
against the judge simply for representing Trump. So they make
examsamples of people like President Trump, they make examples of
Judge Troopis for just simply representing a client. Just happens
being now the President United States. It's like they would
never do that some of you who represented a triple
rapist murder, But boy, if you represented Trump, they're going
(32:18):
to destroy you. They're going to destroy your finances, they're
going to destroy your career. So it's a real problem
now for the Department Justice to hire people to replace
the ones. And look, I'm hearing there's a couple hundred people.
That's a lot of manpower that you'd like working with
you to uncover this abuse, to prosecute crime that they
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don't have it. So listen, there's a real challenge when
Republican administration comes into these partisan agencies. It's almost impossible
to gain control of them. And you only got four years.
They just wait out, So listen, this is a real challenge.
I am not criticizing Cash Betel or Pam or President Trump.
This is just maybe be an insurmountable task. So we
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have high expectations, but understand, the deep state is powerful,
it is deep, it's highly partisan and not in our favor.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
What do they serve for lunch at the White House? Senator,
we're talking. We were talking salads, burgers, steaks. What do
they serve for lunch at the White House? We talk
in salads, steaks. Please tell me it was something smash burgers.
Tell me it was something decent. The White House I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
I haven't eaten there for many, many years.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
It's too bad. I'm dying to know. Senator, thank you.
I appreciate it. All right, Josh Hammer was there in
Israel and a bomb shelter a couple of days ago.
Let's talk to him next. Well, like we said, foreign
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policy is very complicated. Combat very complicated. As I've mentioned
a million times, in war, the first casualty is the truth.
That's an old, old old saying. And last week was wild.
I mean true, this week has been wild Israel, Iran, America.
What's the reality of it. It's hard to wade through everything,
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but one of the best ways to do that is
talk to somebody who was actually there in some form
or fashion. And Josh Hammer was, of course, you know,
Josh Hammer joining me now, my buddy, Josh Hammer, author
of the book Israel and Civilization. Excuse me, okay, Josh,
the floor is yours. What happened last week?
Speaker 6 (34:39):
Well, Jesse, I was there, My young family was there,
my wife, our six month old baby, and I. We
were there when when the war started. We were there
for we're there for purely personal reasons, actually for my
wife's cousin's wedding, and we had a birthday party, a
lot of I had a book event, but personal stuff.
And on the fourth or fifth night we were there,
I suppose it was the sirens went on off at
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three am and the rest has been history. So for
a few days we were running in and out of
bomb shelters. And the thing to bear in mind, Jesse,
is that it's usually there'll be an advance warning on
your cell phone, like a loud siren, noise will go
off to say, be near a bomb shelter. Not always sometimes,
but when the sirens in your local vicinity and the
town actually go off, you have ninety seconds, maybe two minutes,
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to drop whatever the heck it is you're doing and run,
essentially run for your life to the safe ruin the house,
the bomb shelter. So you can imagine how this was
starting to wear on us. Again, our six month old
baby was there. This is no joke, right, So the
fourth night that we were there, after the war started,
I got reports of a neighboring town. We were staying
in the Tel Aviv suburbs, a neighboring town. One of
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the missiles evaded the air defense and had a direct
hit on the bomb shelter, and two people in the
bomb shelter actually tragically died. So they did everything they
could and the bomb shelter did not protect them. So
I said, that's it, we're again the heck add here.
It did a little research. I live in Florida, as
you know. I came across a program that Governor Ron
santas a partner with to get Americans out. I got
in touch with an amazing Florida State center named Jay Collins,
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who was on the ground in Israel and Jordan getting
Americans out. So it was a three and a half
day journey, went from Israel to the Jordanian border, up
to a mom, the capitol of Jordan, then to Cyprus,
then to Tampa, where Governor Santis met us there. He
actually asked me to join him at a press conference
there at the airport last Friday, and then we got
back to South Florida. So it was quite an ordeal
to put a mildly there and I saw some things
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that don't necessarily particularly care to see again. I saw
one factory that took a direct hit from an Iranian
ballistic missile. It was on fire with billowing black smoke.
The likes of which you know, that's an image that
you will not forget for a long time. I mean,
Israel had become an active war zone, right, you know,
the idea of massade did a lot of amazing stuff
in those first days of the war inside of Iran,
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but Israel itself had become a war zone and it
was time to get our family out. So thank god
we're home safely, and I'm really happy to be here
talking to Jose.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Okay, one, I'm glad you're saying my brother too. That
is a story that is going to be told in
your family for quite some time. So that's at least
something I need you to describe for me. The I'm
gonna ask some details because people are curious the bomb shelters.
Are they in people's homes? Are they large? Are they small?
(37:19):
How many people go to these bomb shelters? Because this
is the world I ask it, Josh. I mean, you
lived it, but this is the world we can't understand
here in America, and I want you to lay it
out for us. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
Sure, no, great question. So the first thing to bear
in mind, Jesse, is that most of the new construction
in Israel, to be clear, the old buildings that existed
forty fifty years ago. They weren't built with bomb shelters.
It wasn't really a thing, so maybe they were able
to kind of add it on after the fact there.
But the newer buildings typically have one room of the
house that is extra fortified, I mean extra layers of
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concrete theory. You know, if you knock on the wall,
you will you will essentially notice the difference between that
room and the other rooms there. So we were staying
primarily the family friend's house in the Broader Tellvy suburbs
and one of the one of the bedrooms on the
ground floor in the basement was the safe room. So
that is where we evacuated. But a couple sundays ago,
we were at a neighboring town where my wife's grandmother lives.
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She lives in one of these older buildings and they
had to turn a large common area room on the
ground floor of the apartment building into the safe room.
And there's a lot of elderly people there, so for
you know, for instance, my wife's grandma's in a wheelchair,
and think about that, that's really logistically difficult to get
an old woman in a wheelchair from the third floor
down to the safe room with the sirens. It's really awful, honestly,
(38:34):
it's a frankly an awful reality. The final thing that
that thing is worth noting about this is these bomb
shelters were typically built and this is another thing that
I think the American media has not really covered. These
bomb shelters were built with these hammas fired rockets and
mortars in mind, they were not necessarily built with Irani
and hypersonic ballistic missiles flying two thousand miles in mins.
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That is an apples to oranges comparison. These two things
are simply not the same thing. So that is why
there are been Israeli casualties, is that the bomb shelters, tragically,
they're typically doing their job, thank god for that there,
but the air defense is letting too many missiles through
and some people tragically are dying, which again is why
I want to get out. But it's no way to
live Jesse. It is simply no way to live your
life there, unfortunately, tragically. I think for a lot of
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Israelis it's kind of just the mentality. They know that,
they know this is the case. They deal with it there.
But you know, as a non Israelian as American there.
It was pretty harrowing to deal with for a few.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Days, okay, Josh. The mood of the people there when
it comes to like, I don't know if this whole
thing's over. Frankly, I have my doubts because Iran hasn't
changed their stance on things. Israel is perfectly aware that Iran.
Setting that aside that I doubt the whole thing's over.
What is the mood of the Israeli people with all this?
(39:48):
Because this has been going on for quite some time now,
so I should clarify I'm talking the war itself, I'm
talking about Gaza, I'm talking about Iran, I'm talking about
all this stuff. Where are they at with all this?
So they're sick of? Are they all in? Where are
they right?
Speaker 6 (40:03):
So part of the whole debate, Jsu, for the past
couple of weeks has been who started this? You know,
what is the starting point of the war. I've heard
some people say this is Israel's war of aggression in
Iran with respect, That's just not really accurate, right, I mean,
at a bare minimum, the current war against Israel started
on October seven, twenty twenty three, Hamas received lots of
training and funding from Iran. There has Bala, who these
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all the various Iranian tentacles have been trying to go
after Israel. Indeed, they've been going after American ships and
going after Americans themselves. I mean, the US Marine barracks
bombing in Beirut Lebanon killing two hundred and forty plus
Marines back in the early nineteen eighties came from an
Iranian proxy. Hasbalah so to me, the beginning of Iran's
war against what they referred to as the Little Saint
of Israel and what they referred to as the Big Saint.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Of the United States.
Speaker 6 (40:48):
This war essentially starts when the regime is formed with
the hostage crisis that ended the Jimmy Carter presidency back
in nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
There.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
So that really is how far back this goes.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Now.
Speaker 6 (40:59):
Having said that, with that context, and given the fact
that this has been going on for so long, Leron's
been chanting death to Israel, death to America for my
entire life, essentially, It's definitely my entire adult life.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
There.
Speaker 6 (41:10):
You know, Iran is not a particularly contested issue among
the Israeli political spectrum. And I'll give you an example.
So in twenty sixteen, I was there with a law
school delegation and we met with a very far left
member of the Israeli parliament. This guy was so far left,
totally literal socialist. He was actually supporting Jesse a Kiddie,
not Bernie Sanders in the primary back then in twenty sixteen.
(41:30):
Even this guy, he's a Looney Tunes Marxist socialist. Even
this guy was actually very sober and hawkish on the
Iranian issue. Iran is simply not a contested issue. Israelis
know that Iran is an existential threat, at least a
nuclear armedran there. So this is a very very popular operation.
The next NYA who has done there on the home front,
there's very little doubt about that.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
I think. Okay, Josh, let's I'm not switching gears here,
but let's talk about the political the environment in Israel,
because it is a divided country just like ours. Is Netahu,
the current government. Is it unpopular? Is it popular? Is
(42:10):
it what are the reasons behind it?
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Right?
Speaker 6 (42:13):
So, even though Iran is not particularly contested issue, NETANYAHUO
himself is a is a deeply polarizing divisive figure in Israel,
the same way that Donald Trump is a deeply polarizing
and divisive figure. They're actually shockingly similar, Jesse. If you
look at the biographies of Donald Trump and Bibi Netanyahu,
there are more similarities, frankly than differences. They've both been
prosecuted by unprecedented, a historical lawfare. They're literally dragging Natanyakhu
(42:37):
into court Jesse during this war for alleged bribery charges.
It's the exact same thing. The deep state, the prosecutors,
the judges, they're all in there against him, the exact
same way that Jack Smith and the whole Democrat lawfair
complex was against Donald Trumpierre. The similarities are frankly outright shocking,
but this probably will boost Netanyakhu's domestic political standing if
I had to guess again for the very simple reason
(42:58):
that Iran has been the sort of Dama please hovering
over the Israeli people for decades. And again, there are
plenty of issues in Israel that are very hotly divided.
The Palestine issue is definitely an issue where Israelis are
mixed minds, although increasingly they reject the so called two
state solution. After October seventh, the issue of the Hierdine,
the so called ultra Orthodox entering the idea of the
(43:18):
military draft. That is a very hotly debated issue. There
are plenty of issues over there that are hotly debated,
but the Iranian issue is just really not one of them. Again,
maybe the Arab Israelis are different, but the Jewish Israelies,
I think, no matter whether you are right, center or
left whatever, understood that this regime cannot get a nuclear
weapon because they say they want to commit, they say
they want to commit a second Holocaust, and they've given
(43:41):
no indication whatsoever that they will not do that. They
get a nuclear weapon there. So I think it's a
very popular operation in Israel. I think Nintiyakuo probably stands
to benefit politically from it.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Josh, I'm glad you and yours are saved. My brother,
welcome back home. Take care all right? The wild, wild world, right,
wild way to live. Say, always be two minutes from
a bomb shelter. Anyway, we need to lighten the mood now, thanks.
(44:22):
I like jd Vance. It's time to light in the mood.
By the way, I like JD Vance. I greatly enjoy
the dynamic between JD. Vans and Trump. Trump very clearly
likes JD. Vance gives them all kinds of leeway to
speak and important meetings, and well, I thought this little
moment showed these two get along pretty well.
Speaker 6 (44:42):
And the President looks over at me, puts the foreign
leader on mute, and says, this is not going very well.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
And he presses the red button and my eyes get
really big, and I'm like, mister President, you know what
just happened. And he he looks at me and he
goes nuclear.
Speaker 5 (45:03):
Clear.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
And two minutes later, a guy walks in with the
diet coke and he looks back at me and he says,
it wasn't nuclear, It's just the diet coke button.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
And that's.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
So that's the kind of guy, my fellow Republicans, that
we have as the president of the United States. That's
a great story, all right, I'll see
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