Shocking new details are emerging about deep state intelligence officials thanks to Tulsi Gabbard, John Ratcliffe and others. Jesse Kelly unpacks it all alongside investigative journalist Sarah Westall. Mike Cernovich also joins the show with a big update on the Jeffrey Epstein situation. Plus, Savanah Hernandez reports on anti-ICE protests as well as the Texas floods.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The deep state, the Trump administration, the Epstein stuff. There's
a lot to talk about tonight. Mike Cernovich joins us
CIA director going to jails, Savannah Hernandez all that and
more in a pack show. And I'm writing, now, okay,
(00:25):
we are going to discuss the deep state here, politics,
the Trump administration, and I'm going to get to the
John Brennan stuff in just a moment. But there is
there's something that happens to all of us, happens to me,
happens to you. Bubbles. We look, we put ourselves into bubbles,
(00:46):
don't we. Don't you do that? I know I do that.
The second you have the financial freedom to move into
the neighborhood you want to move into, you move there,
don't you Why do you want to move into that
neighborhood because the people in that neighborhood share your values.
The neighborhood is away from people you don't want to
live around. You're putting yourself, on purpose, into a bubble. Washington,
(01:11):
d C. Is a bubble. There's no way around it.
Presidential administrations are definitely a bubble. You are surrounded by
yes men, yes women. You are you know what the
polls say of course, and yes, you do talk to people.
But even let's say you're Donald Trump, actually Donald Trump.
(01:33):
How many people on the planet can Donald Trump sit
down with and get a one hundred percent open, honest conversation.
How many people is there even one? Do you think
maybe his wife, kids, or son. Everyone has an angle.
He's a president of the United States, he's a billionaire.
People get into bubbles. I believe right now there is
(01:57):
a chance that Trump administration is apped in some bubble
thinking as it pertains to the Epstein stuff, the Epstein
stuff we talked about yesterday. I remember I told you
I think I think those dirty criminals in the government
already destroyed most of the evidence. But all that aside,
that's not the point. The point is people do care,
(02:18):
people care deeply, and the people of this country and
we'll get to CIA in a few The people of
this country they believe, not wrongly, that the government agencies FBI, CIA.
They believe the government agencies have turned against them and
now work against them. They believe, as I believe, government
(02:40):
agencies cover up for powerful people like Jeffrey Epstein, and
the people of this country are sick of it. Bringing
in Pambondi other people in the Trump administration running to
the camera all the time. We're going to deliver the
Epstein stuff. There's stuff on my desk. Now, you're telling
(03:03):
people that finally a powerful person is going to be
held to account And now it seems as that the
Trump administration just kind of wants to get rid of it.
Here's Caroline Levitt.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So the DOJNFI now concluded there was no Jeffrey Epstein
client list.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
What do you tell magus supporters who say they want
anyone involved in Jeffrey Epstein's alleged crimes to be held accountable.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
This administration wants anyone who has ever committed a crime
to be held accountable. And I would argue this administration
has done more to lock up bad guys than certainly
the previous administration. They committed to an exhaustive investigation, That's
what they did, and they provided the results of that.
That's transparency.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Han Roberts said, doj maybe releasing the list of Jeffrey
Epstein's clients? Will that really happen? And she said it's
sitting on my desk right now to review.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yes, she was saying the entirety of all of the paperwork,
all of the paper in relation to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes.
That's what the Attorney General was referring to, and I'll
let her speak for that. But again, when it comes
to the FBI and the Department of Justice, they are
more than committed to ensuring that bad people are put
behind bars. They have an operation going on right now
called Summer Heat, which has our murder rate trending in
(04:16):
the lowest direction in United States history. Their emphasis on
violent crime, in locking up violent criminals has led to
the arrest of fourteen thousand violent criminals.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Okay, let's be honest. That's evasive. That's changing the subject.
It is. You know what it is. I know it is. Hey,
what's up with this Epstein stuff. Well, we've got Operation
Summer Heat. It's evasive. Trump was asked about it today
and was clearly annoyed and essentially said, I mean, why
(04:53):
can't we just move on for sure?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
And your memo can release change a less a leader.
Mysteries of one of the biggest ones is whether he
ever worked for an American for foreign intelligence agency. The
former Labor Secretary who was Miami he was Attorney Alex Cassa.
He allegedly said that he did work for intelligence agency,
(05:17):
So could you resolve whether or not he did? And
also could you see why there was a minute missing
from the jailhouse step.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
On the NAD. Yeah, sir, but I just said, up
so long?
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?
Speaker 6 (05:30):
This guy's been talked about for years?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
You're asking you.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
We have Texas, we have this, we have all of
the things right, and are people still talking about this guy?
This creep that is unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
Do you want to waste the time?
Speaker 5 (05:45):
And do you feel like answering?
Speaker 7 (05:47):
I don't mind answering.
Speaker 8 (05:48):
I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on
at Epstein at a time.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Like it's a basive to the people out there who
rightly believe government agencies have been turned against them, certainly
turned against the American right. That's not good enough. And
(06:14):
I hope the Trump administration is feeling and I believe
they are feeling it now by statements they put out.
They're feeling your anger, They're feeling your frustration. That's not
good enough. Did Jeffrey Epstein work for the Central Intelligence Agency?
Did the Central Intelligence Agency destroy evidence of his wrongdoing.
(06:36):
Here was Mike Ben's a little bit from last night's show.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Well, I think Epstein was working with the CIA in
the early nineteen eighties, at the very start of his career,
after he left bear Stearns in nineteen eighty one, Right
after leaving bear Stearns, How does one get to be
the financial bundler for the CIS mean arms ilicit, arms
trafficker in the middle least without having any scrutiny from
(07:02):
the Central Intelligence Agency. The US State Department personally made
Jeffrey Epstein the tenant on the lease for one of
the second largest residents in all of New York City.
This residence was seized from the government of Iran as
the US was putting sanctions on it, and then personally
(07:24):
leased out to Jeffrey Epstein. How do you have the
State Department as your personal landlord? There is zero chance
on God's green Earth that there are no CIA files
on this guy. And the fact that this Justice Department
has effectively pointed us to the FBI when this is
(07:44):
a CIA job, is not a good look for transparency.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
It looks bad. And so you remember what we talked
about last night. What I believe I believe there is
no laid out client list that makes things clear, because
I believe the evil forces inside of the government destroyed it.
The problem is you've had these people, the Pam Bondies,
saying justice is coming, Justice is coming, and now you
(08:15):
come out and say, hey, let's move on. Why are
we talking about this. There was a flood in Texas.
That's not good enough for people who think that government
has been turned against them. In particular, organizations like the
Central Intelligence Agency. Taulca Gabbard, to her credit, is killing it.
Taulcy Gabbert is out there now revealing things things like CIA,
(08:39):
then CIA Director Brennan and Dani Clapper, James Clapper, John Brennan,
that they took the intelligence arms. Remember we have more
than just one. There's CIA, and I say all kinds
of things. Took the intelligence apparatus of the United States
of America that is there to gather intelligence on foreign countries,
(09:04):
foreign enemies, conduct operations on foreign soil. That's the only
thing it's chartered to do. And these filthy communists took
our spy agencies and weaponized them against the president's political opponents.
That is beyond horrifying, absolutely horrifying if that is true,
(09:27):
and we have every reason to believe that is true.
And by the way, that's why you see John Brennan's big, fat,
ugly stupid face all over the TV whining about Tulca
gabber daily.
Speaker 8 (09:40):
Clearly, Chelsea Gabbert has taken actions and made statements in
the past several years that really raised serious questions about
her common sense, her judgment, as well as her political sympathies.
Closing up to Putin as well as to meeting with
the bashar Asad, I think really does show that she
doesn't have the type perspective that is needed for somebody
(10:01):
who's going to head up these eighteen intelligence agency sy
We have fallen so far with somebody like Tulsi Gabberd
who didn't have the background experience and didn't have the
commitment to the profession of intelligence that I think is
so necessary.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
That man could possibly be facing perjury charges right now
because of all the lies he told. He's understandably worried
about Tulsi Gabbert. But back to what we opened up with,
if the files have been destroyed, you need to tell
people the files have been destroyed. As I told you, yesterday.
(10:40):
That's what I believe. I don't think Pam Bondi has
the files. I don't think they have it. I don't
think cash Pateel ever laid his eyes on those files,
because I think they were put through the proverbial papers
right or along before they got there. If that's the case,
you have to tell the American people that you have
to as much as you can open up the books.
(11:01):
Don't be so trapped in the bubble that you think
you can be asked about these things and change the
subject or tell the American people to move on. We
believe our government has turned against us. We've seen no
evidence otherwise. And when we find out yet another powerful
person is going to get all powerful people are going
(11:23):
to get off scott free with crimes they may or
may not have committed. We don't know. It rubs us
all the wrong way. Open the books, be honest, or
they're going to suffer from the same lack of trust
the others did. All that may have made you uncomfortable,
(11:43):
but I am right. Mike Cernovich is going to join
us in a moment to discuss this Epstein stuff. What
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Speaker 2 (12:49):
One of the questions, though, is whether the intelligence community
is going after or somehow is trying to undercut by
selective leaks the new president elect. Let me just ask
my question because former top intelligence officials have been bashing
mister Trump.
Speaker 9 (13:06):
Vermont I can tell you that the Intel's community is
prepared to support the President elect and the incoming team,
as we have done throughout the course of our history,
so there is no interest in undermining the president elect
and the nascuty teams coming in.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Oh thank god here. I was worried these people were
going to be political. Joining me now, Sarah Westall, host
of the Wonderful Sarah Westall Show, an investigative journalist, Sarah,
that is a load off my mind, because I was
worried this John Brennan guy might not be on the
up and up.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
Oh yeah, well it's proven now, right, and it's all
come out that he's a political animal. And they were
fabricating documents to what they did is they just came
up with some narrative that they thought they could sell
on the American public, and then they just dove right in.
(14:00):
And I mean, that's.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
What lay this out for us, Because lay this out
for us because a lot of people forget, you know,
they remember Russian collusion, they remember that buzzword because it
was all over the freaking media forever, but they forget
its origins and the role the intelligence community had, and
all this lay this out for us.
Speaker 7 (14:20):
Well, they fabricated it, right, the famous Clinton dossier and
paying for it, and then fabricating this entire report and
then putting it out into the media. What people need
to understand is they came up with a narrative that
(14:42):
they thought they could sell to the American people, and
then they dug right in and it didn't matter if
there wasn't facts and there wasn't true information backing this.
You had people like Rachel Manow talking twenty four hours
a day. People were just salivating after, you know, getting
this information, and they were creating this division in this country,
(15:04):
trying to destroy Donald Trump's reputation, and they were doing
a pretty good job within their political party, and they
never let up. They were doing it day after day
after day. And that's what people don't, you know, from
the side that doesn't listen to that side of the
media spectrum, didn't realize that these people were getting a
(15:27):
steady stream of narratives to make you distrust the administration
and that's what their goal was. And they just kept
nailing it day after day after day, and it was
false in information, and they were trying to make it
seem like Trump was in bed with Putin. And then
(15:48):
at the same time they were Peyton painting Putin, which
you know, Putin is who Putin is, right, I'm not
going to defend Putin, but they were, you know, painting
him as this tyrant, dictator commune and then trying to
paint Trump as this dictator tyrant, not a communist as much,
but this dictator tyrant who wants him in office because
(16:12):
he's you know, their buddies. And so they were. It
was an emotional tactic. And the problem is is that
they the internet. It didn't work for a lot of
people because the Internet got different information out there to
people and people didn't buy it. But so it wasn't
but it worked with their base, and it was the
(16:33):
emotional tactic that they took that was so destructive. And
you know, evidence is coming out now and the reason
this is so important it's it's it's one story that
shows what they've been doing kind of along the way
in different areas, and people need to understand that this
is a tactic that they use to control people on
(16:54):
an emotional level and it works, so they keep doing it.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I think a lot of people forget Sarah about Barack
Obama's hands on this. Hillary Clinton gets all the blame
for it, and of course there's plenty of blame to
go around that Hillary Clinton was not president of the
United States of America. When the intelligence agencies declared war
on Donald Trump, Barack Obama was.
Speaker 7 (17:19):
Well. Barack Obama famously changed the rules on his way
out sharing data across all intelligence agencies, and he, you know,
famously had a wire tap in Donald Trump's facilities as
they were planning their election. So there was deeper actions
(17:42):
going on than just this Russian collusion story. The Russian
collusion story is a big deal because it helps people
understand the patterns of the games that they were playing.
But you know, as you say, Barack Obama is not
innocent on this, and he was doing many more activities
that I would like to get to the bottom of.
I mean, with Tulsea Gabbert, I like what Tulsa Gabbert's
(18:04):
doing trying to create more transparency as far as what
the intelligence agencies were doing putting people on lists. I mean,
I think I was put on a list. My website
was taken down by Go Daddy right before the election,
Go Daddy's Federal Crimes Division, and I'm like, well, what
the heck did I do? Nobody pointed to anything that
(18:25):
I could do. I did the employees that GoDaddy had
no idea what I did, and they actually helped me
get my domain back because they were like, we don't
this is not what we do. It was the Federal
Crimes Division, right, So they were targeting people all over
the place, and I think that directly ties back to
Obama and Brennan. And of course they're directing blame to
(18:48):
Hillary Clinton because she was the one that was running
for president at that, you know, back in twenty sixteen,
but twenty twenty was also you know, that's when my
website was taken down. I think that that apparatus was
set up and they had so many entrenched deep staters
in there that you know, they're still unwinding what was
(19:09):
set up in the Obama years.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Grief. Okay, back to Brennan. We know that he's a
dirty piece of trash, But did he do anything that
can land him in jail? And I ask it because
given the Epstein News and everything else, people I've just
about had it up to here with powerful people never
going to jail, Little people go to jail. Powerful people
(19:36):
never go to jail. But I don't want to sell
people a bill of goods. Can he go down for this?
Speaker 7 (19:43):
Well, I mean he's aligned to the American public. The
problem is a Smith up Matt Month. The Smith Month
Act was changed in twenty twelve, allowing them to do
propaganda against the American people. I think the biggest lie
is lyned to Congress and withholding evidence when they asked
for it. I think the crimes that will come out
by doing a true investigation will show there's plenty of
(20:06):
crime behind the scenes on what was going on. But
I think you're going to have to do some deeper
investigations to really flush out, you know, what was going
on and see where the crimes are. It's just like
the Epstein files. Those of us that have done a
lot of deep research knows that there was a black
(20:28):
male operation going on, and the only way that you
can get around it, you know, the Komi's daughter is
an expert, you know, with the puff Daddy. She represented
Jaslaying Maxwell as well. They're experts at diverting the attention
from the powerful players that are involved, and so the
only way to really get to the details is to
(20:49):
do a real investigation. John Mark Dugan, who is a
friend of mine, he famously m I six tipped off
the Times of London. This was back in like twenty
seventy that John Mark Dugan had all the Epstein tapes
videos back in twenty twelve, the investigators he was storing stuff.
(21:09):
He's in Palm Beach County and he was helping whistleblowers
and he was storing the tapes videos for the investigators
in the Epstein trial. And another journalist went and watched
these videos with them, and there was I believe there's
eight that they watch and then they decided this was
too much for them. But there were underage girls they
believe looked like underage girls with powerful men in these videos.
(21:33):
And I asked him, I interviewed, was the first one
to interview him on this, and I said, what's in
those tapes? And that's what he told me. And I said, well,
why don't you release these? And he goes because they're
going to his asylum in Russia. He said, they're gonna
they're they're gonna kill me. That's how we felt he
was going to be taken out. And so what he
did is he gave him out to ten different people
and has a dead men's with John. I mean, he goes,
(21:55):
but the FBI has all these videos, They have everything
I have because I just stored what they gave me,
and so he just felt like it wasn't his responsibility.
I don't know. He says that he has a family
and things, but now he's probably sitting on probably a
gold mine of information that everybody wants to get at.
But they had these videos. Is that the client list
(22:17):
or is that just the people who've been blackmailed but
they still slept with you know, maybe they were told
they were eighteen. I don't know, but that is the
blackmail operation that was going on. So people are disgusted
with all of this. They're disgusted that this is the
mode of operations that these people operate. Went in you know,
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they blackmail and they coerce people, and so the more
you can the problem is you need good investigators that
are going to actually uncover and get to the details
and so much of this evidence depending on whether you're
talking about Epstein or they're talking to Russian inclusion, are
you talking about anything. As soon as there becomes like
serious crimes, they do a pretty good of getting rid
(23:00):
of it, and that's where the problem lies. But you
have to have serious investigators and I think we can
get to the bottom of this, especially the double edged
sword with surveillance is that we have the ability to
get to this information. I just have Bill Binnie on
the show. Who is the NSA whistleblower that actually is
coming on my show tonight and if people have I
(23:22):
want to know who he is. There's a documentary made
about him. A good American. He was the Nicholas Cage
character in the Snowden movie. He was Nick Snowden's mentor,
and he created this program called Thin Threat, and he
was talking about how overnight we could have details on
so many criminal activities. This is the double edged sword
of surveillance. And if they truly are doing the surveillance
(23:45):
they claim they are doing, why don't you use it
to take down the pedophiles and the criminals and all
these people that are involved. The problem is there are
a lot of powerful people involved and they don't want
it to be used because it can be used to
take them down. And if we I'm committed, people that
are really focused and laser focused on doing this, they
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could do it.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
That's my uh my ass name, Thank you, I appreciate it.
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We'll be back, okay. So obviously Epstein's been on everybody's mind.
We've been talking about it. I told you my thoughts
on the whole thing. I think it's ugly. I think
it stinks. I think a lot of evil government organizations
(25:40):
destroyed evidence, and I don't think the Trump administration looks
great trying to change the subject. But Mike Cernovich has
played a critical role in bringing any of this to light,
and I want to know what he thinks. You already
know what I think. Joining me now, my friend, author
and filmmaker Mike Cernovich, Mike, the floor is yours, my friend.
Speaker 10 (26:00):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
I mean, what's to say? Right? What's to say? You know,
you got cash and Bongino as good as it gets
them there? Really if you can't, if you can't trust them,
who can he trust? But you also have that weird
hostage video they did where they look like their eyes
were like saucers. You've never seen them look like that before.
(26:22):
And you have cash on Joe Rogan saying, hey, if
people have things to tell us, call us up. But
we're not going to revictimize victims. And everybody's thinking, nobody
is trying to get videos of the victims. Nobody's trying
to get the victims' names. What are you talking about, right?
It feels like you're in an argument with your wife.
(26:46):
What we don't want the names of the victims. We
don't want the videos of the victims. We don't want
to know anything about them. We want to know who
was on the list, or where the financial records were,
or why the search application remains under seal. Why James
Comy's daughter seems to have her hands on every big case.
(27:07):
The Puff Daddy case was torpedoed from what I can tell,
Why charge someone with such horrific crimes if you can't
prove the allegation. So either that was a mop up
operation or it was a completely unjust prosecution. And also
Comy's daughter had the Glamee Maxwell case. This is it's
like brothers, this is what we're asking for here. Okay,
(27:29):
let's stay on topic.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Mike, Where do we assign blame for this? Because honestly,
I talked about this a bit last night. It feels
like maybe the Pam Bondies of the world maybe trying
to ride, you know, the popular wave. Maybe over promised
an under delivered quite a bit. And that's one of
the things that's chafing people when you're all over the news.
(27:54):
It's on my desk, we're going to be releasing it,
Alina Habba, I've had the records and then it comes out,
well there's nothing. Well that's the kind of thing that
makes people feel like you're covering something up right.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
It could be a simple case of they jumped into
something that they didn't understand. I don't think they realized
how long we've been looking into this stuff. Right twenty
seven when I followed my original lawsuit to try to
obtain some Epstein records via a civil case of evolved,
I want to say that was January twenty seventeen. Do
(28:27):
you know how nice my hair looked? I mean not
to be glib when we're talking about a serious thing,
but that was wow.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Mike, Wow, thanks a lot for that.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
Yeah, yeah, wow, Mike. Way to just be a joker
about things that.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I don't have any I don't even have any.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Man, right, and so you think how long ago it
was twenty seventeen. I don't even want to look at
pictures of myself from twenty seventeen. It depresses me. I go,
where did that young man go? That's how long we've
been on It's twenty twenty five, almost a decade decade later.
So people who weren't around with us jump in and
(29:06):
talk out a pocket, not realizing, no, we've been thinking
about this and going over it forever for thousands of hours.
And if you combined everybody Internet hundreds of thousands or
millions of hours, and maybe maybe they jumped into something
that they didn't understand. But I can tell you that
the reception for people like me, I trust, I would
trust cash be talk my life, no no cap for real,
(29:28):
for real, and the same true Bongino, and that if
they called me up and said there's a threat on
your life, I would be gone in a second to
a safe house. Right, So where does that leave us?
That's that's the big question, is that Pam Bondy, who
maybe doesn't know what she's doing and is getting steamrolled
(29:48):
because let's not you know, I don't want to be
sexist or anything. She's very attractive. She's also you would
never get sixty years old, right, And that generation is
much more trusting of institutions and maybe deferential to the institutions,
because I know that if you are the Attorney general,
or even Matt gaz if he had been Internet General,
(30:10):
we would say, why is it that James Comy's daughter
always seems to be in the middle of this? Right,
maybe we ought to not have a Komi in the
middle of this, and that, of course would be a question,
but not someone that Pambondi or someone of that era
might necessarily.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Ask Mike, I don't get the impression that trump'space is
going to let this go. And I got the impression
it's certainly off that answer he gave today that he
wants them to let this go. Why are we still
talking about this? We have the Texas floods, and I
don't think this is something they're just going to let go,
(30:50):
and it really seems like they want us to let
it go.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
Yeah, I didn't understand Trump's reaction to that either, other
than maybe he doesn't understand how big of a deal
it is the people, because there's always different ways to
interpret it. My view of it to back down what
a lot of people say is that's not Trump's thing.
Trump was never implicating the files. In fact, he was
asked that witnesses were asked and victims were asked about Trump,
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and they all said he was never down there. Trump
kicked Epstein out of his club for creeping on a
member's daughter. So we know we know it isn't Trump
and his own self self preservation doing this right, But
why does he want people to move on? Especially here?
Here's something that I can't get over. You can put
the Wall Street Journal article on this where in an
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email to Peter Teal, and we can imagine that there
were many other emails, like the scent reied Hoffman was
trying to make introductions for Jeffrey Epstein and to take
people to the island. So we know for a fact
that Reed Hoffman, founder of the E Jon and Carroll.
Remember that case in New York where Trump is suddenly
accused of something from forty years ago that nobody, nobody credible,
(31:55):
orrrational really thinks is happening, has a show trial New York.
So why hasn't battered Read Hoffman over the head with this?
Doesn't add up, does it?
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Right?
Speaker 6 (32:06):
I mean, imagine one of your worst enemies, the funders
of law Fair, the pusher of all the RuSHA Gate hoaxes,
somebody trying to destroy your reputation. I mean, what Trump
was accused of falsely, in my view, terrible stuff, right,
and read Hoffman funded all of this. So why is
Trump never mentioned that once? Why does Trump not beat
(32:26):
reed Hoffman over the head with that? I don't know, man,
That's a big question that there's no answer that I have.
I certainly don't have any answer to that.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
I don't have an answer to it either. Mike whatever, brother,
come back soon. I'll have even less here then. I
appreciate it, all right. Savannah Hernandez has lots of here.
We'll talk to her next.
Speaker 11 (33:00):
At the Prairieland Ice Detention Center in Alvado, Texas, ten
to twelve individuals dressed in black military style clothing began
shooting fireworks and engaging in acts of vandalism at the facility.
And this was part of an organized attack. Today, my
office has charged ten individuals with three counts of attempted
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murder of a federal officer. Each of the ten are
also charged with three counts of discharging a firearm in
relation to a crime of violence. Each of these defendants
faces a mandatory prison term of ten years and up
to life in prison. It was a planned ambush with
the intent to kill Ice Corrections officers. Make no mistake.
(33:49):
This was not a so called peaceful protest. It was
indeed an ambush.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
I love fireworks. I already miss Independence Day, but that's
actually not important. That's not what we need to talk
about here. Joining me now, Savannah Hernandez, contributor for Turning
Point USA. Savannah, do you love fireworks, absolutely, I do. Jesse, Okay, good,
all right, now what happened here?
Speaker 10 (34:20):
Yeah, Jesse, you know this is not surprising behavior at all. Unfortunately,
the left wing has been emboldened for years at this point.
Antifa has been emboldened for years. I mean they've been
attacking ICE facilities in Portland for the last month, to
the point where you have residents that are now going
forward to sue the city because nobody is getting involved.
(34:40):
Now we are seeing ICE agents being targeted at various
facilities across the nation. And you know, it's not surprising
in the slightest because if you take a peek at
what has been going on regarding democrats, their language, what
they have allowed on the streets of this country, this
is the type of behavior that people have gotten away with,
been calling for violence against our federal officials, and they
(35:03):
have been pushing the back against these mass deportations. So
you know, it's really heartbreaking to see what is going
on in the streets quite frankly right now, but not surprising, Savannah.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
You spend a lot of time knee deep in these
protests with all these dirty street animals, but they've always
been violent. I get that. And as you just pointed out,
they've been terrorizing people for a while, they've killed people before,
but an organized ambush with a dozen of these freaks
seems like an escalation. I haven't seen something like that
before from them, have you, Yes?
Speaker 12 (35:38):
And no?
Speaker 10 (35:39):
I mean, I think what we're seeing now is we
saw these exact same ambushes and during BLM, right, we
saw federal courthouses that were being fire bombed. But now
they're simply moving their attention to these ICE facilities. So
we have seen these exact same tactics, but of course
the focus has now changed to these ICE facilities, which
is why it's so important for you know, our federal
(36:02):
officials to really bring down the hammer on these criminals
who are coming in and targeting these ICE facilities because
I only do see this continuing to get worse and
ICE agents, unfortunately and hopefully not I hope this doesn't happen,
but this could potentially lead to ICE agents of course
being killed because of the amount of targeting that is
continuing to happen. I mean, you even had Karen bask
(36:22):
the mayor of Los Angeles, just yesterday going in and
trying to impede you know, ICE going in and trying
to conduct these raids of criminals who should not be
in this country.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
It's not just happening in Los Angeles speaking of protecting
all the foreigners. It's happening in New York where they're
still giving out free stuff. Just how many illegals are
still huddled up in these sanctuary places run by these
dirt balls.
Speaker 10 (36:51):
And you know, Jesse, I wish I could give you
that number, but I unfortunately can't because all of these
illegal immigrants are now being hidden now. I was recently
in New York and what is happening right now is
the shelters are being shut down and Roosevelt Hotel, which
is one of those main processing centers, is completely empty.
For the first time since I've reported there since twenty
twenty two, there was not one illegal immigrant standing outside.
(37:13):
But what's happening is the City of New York just
signed a one billion dollar deal to now kind of
just move those illegal immigrants into the homeless shelters, which
by the way, receive federal funding. So this is for
eighty six thousand people to receive these emergency shelters. In
January of this year, Eric Adams was stating that you
still had fifty one thousand illegal immigrants that were utilizing
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city shelters. So you know, we're not going to get
those exact numbers because unfortunately, sanctuary cities across the United
States of America are still hiding illegal immigrants in plain sight.
And now, instead of using the tax payer dollars in
New York to house these people in free hotel rooms,
they're taking federal funding from people all across the United
States of America to hide them in homeless shelters and
(37:55):
even further Jesse, these homeless services have told their employees
that they cannot allow ice into the facilities, that ice
detainers are not enough to grant them access to facilities,
and it is illegal for them to share the immigration
status of their clients.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Savannah can maybe you can lay this out for me.
What happened to Eric Adams. Eric Adams, I know he's
not on our side, but started closing up the Trump
some FBI charges went away. He's selling himself right now
as the anti man Donnie and all that Stuff's fine,
but are they doing this behind his back or with
his permission?
Speaker 10 (38:34):
I think that the Trump administration knows what's going on,
and hopefully you know what my hope for this is
after this big, beautiful bill passed and we did get
that funding for the mass deportations, my hope is that
New York will allow ICE to come in and you know,
enact its job and conduct these raids. But what's happening
(38:55):
is you have such an infiltration through all of the
various organizations and run programs in New York that they're
essentially ignoring the federal government. They're going to ignore whatever
Eric Adams says. At the end of the day, he's
still an open border, sanctuary city Democrat, so he's going
to allow these officials to you know, circumvent our federal
laws and not work with ICE in DHS.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
All right, let's shift gears and talk about the absolute
horror going on in Curville, Texas. I understand you have some.
Speaker 10 (39:27):
Knowledge on all that, yes, Jesse, So I was on
the ground yesterday and that's where my focus has been.
So I was up there, and you know, I just
want to start off with some good news because this
has been such a heavy subject for the people of Texas.
But just to start us off with some good news,
we have had eight hundred and fifty people that have
(39:47):
since been rescued. I was at the donation centers up
in Kerville, and they have received so many donations from
all across Texas that they're actually oversupplied and they're now
having to rent out ware houses to send those supplies to.
And this is happening in both the Kerrville area and
then also various counties in Austin. So so many people
in Texas donating to help out these efforts regarding what
(40:10):
you know I saw on the ground, absolutely horrifying situation.
You have those major floods that have at this point
killed one hundred and eight people, including thirty children. Really
heartbreaking to witness. I was speaking to some residents on
the ground who were there during those floods. Luckily the
resident I spoke to, his home was on a hill.
(40:31):
She stated that the flood waters rose so quickly that
they were reaching almost the top of the trees. You know,
initial report stating that those floodwaters rose about twenty six
thirty feet in just forty five minutes. So complete devastation
up there, and a lot of these donation centers now
asking for monetary support. They've received so many supplies that
they are helping of course the residents that need it,
(40:53):
but now they need those monetary donations because the next
now natural progression of this cleanup is going to be
removing all of the cars, the mattresses that are currently
stuck in trees, all of the debris on the roads.
So we were seeing both you know, State and of
course a lot of locals helping with this devastating the
flood and the aftermath.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Grief, Savannah, thank you, appreciate it. All right, lighten the
mood next. All right, it is time to lighten the mood.
And first of all, before we get to the hero,
(41:39):
one of the many heroes in Texas, maybe you are
interested in giving some monetary support to help people recover. There,
give sen go dot com slash Texas Flood Relief Fund.
All right, give sen go dot com. Slash Texas Relief
(42:00):
Fund is a place where you can go. There are
other places as well, wonderful places, but that's one of
the places you can go if there's something you want
to give to help out. Okay, now let's talk about
Scott Ruskin, and there are still a lot of heroes
in America.
Speaker 12 (42:17):
The Coast Guard launched us and decided to send a
rescue crew from Airstation Corpus Christie at about six thirty
seven am on Friday, the fourth of July. I got
on scene boots on the ground, it can't miss it,
kind of discovered I was the only person there as
far as like first responders go. So yeah, I had
about two hundred kids, mostly all scared, terrified, cold, having
(42:38):
probably the worst day of their life, and I just
kind of need to triage them, get them to a
higher level care, and get them off the flood zone.
With a lot of the US sixty Army helicopters, now,
I was kind of the main guy as far as
like grabbing people usually like fifteen to ten kids at
a time, maybe one adult with them and bringing them
over to those sixties and getting them to a different
LZ that was kind of safe and had more first
(43:01):
responders than just myself out there. When I got on scene,
there was you know, two hundred kids looking to someone
for some sort of comfort and safety. They don't really
know what my experiences or my rank or my age.
They just know, hey, this guy's a professional and he's
here to help us. And I kind of had to
live up to that standard. But yeah, the real heroes.
I think were too, the kids on the ground, Like,
those guys are heroic, and you know, they were dealing
with some of the worst times in their lives and
(43:21):
they were staying strong and that helped inspire me to
kind of get in there and help them out. And
the kids too, like they're being so brave and tough,
and like I know, there's a lot of them. I
was able to kind of like get hands on with.
And if you guys yet, seriously, like you guys were
the best, Like, I'm sorry this happened to you guys,
but you guys were so brave and tough, and it
made me like a better rescuer.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Because you guys were acting so bravely.
Speaker 12 (43:41):
I'm just a person, right, I'm just a guy, just
a dude. I you know, I chose to listen to
Coast Guard. Anyone is able to do this. Anyone's able
to do this job. If you raise your right hand,
do it. So I'm just happy I was giving the
opportunity to help these people.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Out passing off the credit. It wasn't me, it was
the kids. It's happy to be here. Some really wonderful
people still in this country. I'll see them all
The deep state, the Trump administration, the Epstein stuff. There's
a lot to talk about tonight. Mike Cernovich joins us
CIA director going to jails, Savannah Hernandez all that and
more in a pack show. And I'm writing, now, okay,
(00:25):
we are going to discuss the deep state here, politics,
the Trump administration, and I'm going to get to the
John Brennan stuff in just a moment. But there is
there's something that happens to all of us, happens to me,
happens to you. Bubbles. We look, we put ourselves into bubbles,
(00:46):
don't we. Don't you do that? I know I do that.
The second you have the financial freedom to move into
the neighborhood you want to move into, you move there,
don't you Why do you want to move into that
neighborhood because the people in that neighborhood share your values.
The neighborhood is away from people you don't want to
live around. You're putting yourself, on purpose, into a bubble. Washington,
(01:11):
d C. Is a bubble. There's no way around it.
Presidential administrations are definitely a bubble. You are surrounded by
yes men, yes women. You are you know what the
polls say of course, and yes, you do talk to people.
But even let's say you're Donald Trump, actually Donald Trump.
(01:33):
How many people on the planet can Donald Trump sit
down with and get a one hundred percent open, honest conversation.
How many people is there even one? Do you think
maybe his wife, kids, or son. Everyone has an angle.
He's a president of the United States, he's a billionaire.
People get into bubbles. I believe right now there is
(01:57):
a chance that Trump administration is apped in some bubble
thinking as it pertains to the Epstein stuff, the Epstein
stuff we talked about yesterday. I remember I told you
I think I think those dirty criminals in the government
already destroyed most of the evidence. But all that aside,
that's not the point. The point is people do care,
(02:18):
people care deeply, and the people of this country and
we'll get to CIA in a few The people of
this country they believe, not wrongly, that the government agencies FBI, CIA.
They believe the government agencies have turned against them and
now work against them. They believe, as I believe, government
(02:40):
agencies cover up for powerful people like Jeffrey Epstein, and
the people of this country are sick of it. Bringing
in Pambondi other people in the Trump administration running to
the camera all the time. We're going to deliver the
Epstein stuff. There's stuff on my desk. Now, you're telling
(03:03):
people that finally a powerful person is going to be
held to account And now it seems as that the
Trump administration just kind of wants to get rid of it.
Here's Caroline Levitt.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
So the DOJNFI now concluded there was no Jeffrey Epstein
client list.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
What do you tell magus supporters who say they want
anyone involved in Jeffrey Epstein's alleged crimes to be held accountable.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
This administration wants anyone who has ever committed a crime
to be held accountable. And I would argue this administration
has done more to lock up bad guys than certainly
the previous administration. They committed to an exhaustive investigation, That's
what they did, and they provided the results of that.
That's transparency.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Han Roberts said, doj maybe releasing the list of Jeffrey
Epstein's clients? Will that really happen? And she said it's
sitting on my desk right now to review.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yes, she was saying the entirety of all of the paperwork,
all of the paper in relation to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes.
That's what the Attorney General was referring to, and I'll
let her speak for that. But again, when it comes
to the FBI and the Department of Justice, they are
more than committed to ensuring that bad people are put
behind bars. They have an operation going on right now
called Summer Heat, which has our murder rate trending in
(04:16):
the lowest direction in United States history. Their emphasis on
violent crime, in locking up violent criminals has led to
the arrest of fourteen thousand violent criminals.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Okay, let's be honest. That's evasive. That's changing the subject.
It is. You know what it is. I know it is. Hey,
what's up with this Epstein stuff. Well, we've got Operation
Summer Heat. It's evasive. Trump was asked about it today
and was clearly annoyed and essentially said, I mean, why
(04:53):
can't we just move on for sure?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
And your memo can release change a less a leader.
Mysteries of one of the biggest ones is whether he
ever worked for an American for foreign intelligence agency. The
former Labor Secretary who was Miami he was Attorney Alex Cassa.
He allegedly said that he did work for intelligence agency,
(05:17):
So could you resolve whether or not he did? And
also could you see why there was a minute missing
from the jailhouse step.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
On the NAD. Yeah, sir, but I just said, up
so long?
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?
Speaker 6 (05:30):
This guy's been talked about for years?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
You're asking you.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
We have Texas, we have this, we have all of
the things right, and are people still talking about this guy?
This creep that is unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
Do you want to waste the time?
Speaker 5 (05:45):
And do you feel like answering?
Speaker 7 (05:47):
I don't mind answering.
Speaker 8 (05:48):
I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on
at Epstein at a time.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Like it's a basive to the people out there who
rightly believe government agencies have been turned against them, certainly
turned against the American right. That's not good enough. And
(06:14):
I hope the Trump administration is feeling and I believe
they are feeling it now by statements they put out.
They're feeling your anger, They're feeling your frustration. That's not
good enough. Did Jeffrey Epstein work for the Central Intelligence Agency?
Did the Central Intelligence Agency destroy evidence of his wrongdoing.
(06:36):
Here was Mike Ben's a little bit from last night's show.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Well, I think Epstein was working with the CIA in
the early nineteen eighties, at the very start of his career,
after he left bear Stearns in nineteen eighty one, Right
after leaving bear Stearns, How does one get to be
the financial bundler for the CIS mean arms ilicit, arms
trafficker in the middle least without having any scrutiny from
(07:02):
the Central Intelligence Agency. The US State Department personally made
Jeffrey Epstein the tenant on the lease for one of
the second largest residents in all of New York City.
This residence was seized from the government of Iran as
the US was putting sanctions on it, and then personally
(07:24):
leased out to Jeffrey Epstein. How do you have the
State Department as your personal landlord? There is zero chance
on God's green Earth that there are no CIA files
on this guy. And the fact that this Justice Department
has effectively pointed us to the FBI when this is
(07:44):
a CIA job, is not a good look for transparency.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
It looks bad. And so you remember what we talked
about last night. What I believe I believe there is
no laid out client list that makes things clear, because
I believe the evil forces inside of the government destroyed it.
The problem is you've had these people, the Pam Bondies,
saying justice is coming, Justice is coming, and now you
(08:15):
come out and say, hey, let's move on. Why are
we talking about this. There was a flood in Texas.
That's not good enough for people who think that government
has been turned against them. In particular, organizations like the
Central Intelligence Agency. Taulca Gabbard, to her credit, is killing it.
Taulcy Gabbert is out there now revealing things things like CIA,
(08:39):
then CIA Director Brennan and Dani Clapper, James Clapper, John Brennan,
that they took the intelligence arms. Remember we have more
than just one. There's CIA, and I say all kinds
of things. Took the intelligence apparatus of the United States
of America that is there to gather intelligence on foreign countries,
(09:04):
foreign enemies, conduct operations on foreign soil. That's the only
thing it's chartered to do. And these filthy communists took
our spy agencies and weaponized them against the president's political opponents.
That is beyond horrifying, absolutely horrifying if that is true,
(09:27):
and we have every reason to believe that is true.
And by the way, that's why you see John Brennan's big, fat,
ugly stupid face all over the TV whining about Tulca
gabber daily.
Speaker 8 (09:40):
Clearly, Chelsea Gabbert has taken actions and made statements in
the past several years that really raised serious questions about
her common sense, her judgment, as well as her political sympathies.
Closing up to Putin as well as to meeting with
the bashar Asad, I think really does show that she
doesn't have the type perspective that is needed for somebody
(10:01):
who's going to head up these eighteen intelligence agency sy
We have fallen so far with somebody like Tulsi Gabberd
who didn't have the background experience and didn't have the
commitment to the profession of intelligence that I think is
so necessary.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
That man could possibly be facing perjury charges right now
because of all the lies he told. He's understandably worried
about Tulsi Gabbert. But back to what we opened up with,
if the files have been destroyed, you need to tell
people the files have been destroyed. As I told you, yesterday.
(10:40):
That's what I believe. I don't think Pam Bondi has
the files. I don't think they have it. I don't
think cash Pateel ever laid his eyes on those files,
because I think they were put through the proverbial papers
right or along before they got there. If that's the case,
you have to tell the American people that you have
to as much as you can open up the books.
(11:01):
Don't be so trapped in the bubble that you think
you can be asked about these things and change the
subject or tell the American people to move on. We
believe our government has turned against us. We've seen no
evidence otherwise. And when we find out yet another powerful
person is going to get all powerful people are going
(11:23):
to get off scott free with crimes they may or
may not have committed. We don't know. It rubs us
all the wrong way. Open the books, be honest, or
they're going to suffer from the same lack of trust
the others did. All that may have made you uncomfortable,
(11:43):
but I am right. Mike Cernovich is going to join
us in a moment to discuss this Epstein stuff. What
are his thoughts on everything? I have thoughts. I have
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Speaker 2 (12:49):
One of the questions, though, is whether the intelligence community
is going after or somehow is trying to undercut by
selective leaks the new president elect. Let me just ask
my question because former top intelligence officials have been bashing
mister Trump.
Speaker 9 (13:06):
Vermont I can tell you that the Intel's community is
prepared to support the President elect and the incoming team,
as we have done throughout the course of our history,
so there is no interest in undermining the president elect
and the nascuty teams coming in.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Oh thank god here. I was worried these people were
going to be political. Joining me now, Sarah Westall, host
of the Wonderful Sarah Westall Show, an investigative journalist, Sarah,
that is a load off my mind, because I was
worried this John Brennan guy might not be on the
up and up.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
Oh yeah, well it's proven now, right, and it's all
come out that he's a political animal. And they were
fabricating documents to what they did is they just came
up with some narrative that they thought they could sell
on the American public, and then they just dove right in.
(14:00):
And I mean, that's.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
What lay this out for us, Because lay this out
for us because a lot of people forget, you know,
they remember Russian collusion, they remember that buzzword because it
was all over the freaking media forever, but they forget
its origins and the role the intelligence community had, and
all this lay this out for us.
Speaker 7 (14:20):
Well, they fabricated it, right, the famous Clinton dossier and
paying for it, and then fabricating this entire report and
then putting it out into the media. What people need
to understand is they came up with a narrative that
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they thought they could sell to the American people, and
then they dug right in and it didn't matter if
there wasn't facts and there wasn't true information backing this.
You had people like Rachel Manow talking twenty four hours
a day. People were just salivating after, you know, getting
this information, and they were creating this division in this country,
(15:04):
trying to destroy Donald Trump's reputation, and they were doing
a pretty good job within their political party, and they
never let up. They were doing it day after day
after day. And that's what people don't, you know, from
the side that doesn't listen to that side of the
media spectrum, didn't realize that these people were getting a
(15:27):
steady stream of narratives to make you distrust the administration
and that's what their goal was. And they just kept
nailing it day after day after day, and it was
false in information, and they were trying to make it
seem like Trump was in bed with Putin. And then
(15:48):
at the same time they were Peyton painting Putin, which
you know, Putin is who Putin is, right, I'm not
going to defend Putin, but they were, you know, painting
him as this tyrant, dictator commune and then trying to
paint Trump as this dictator tyrant, not a communist as much,
but this dictator tyrant who wants him in office because
(16:12):
he's you know, their buddies. And so they were. It
was an emotional tactic. And the problem is is that
they the internet. It didn't work for a lot of
people because the Internet got different information out there to
people and people didn't buy it. But so it wasn't
but it worked with their base, and it was the
(16:33):
emotional tactic that they took that was so destructive. And
you know, evidence is coming out now and the reason
this is so important it's it's it's one story that
shows what they've been doing kind of along the way
in different areas, and people need to understand that this
is a tactic that they use to control people on
(16:54):
an emotional level and it works, so they keep doing it.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I think a lot of people forget Sarah about Barack
Obama's hands on this. Hillary Clinton gets all the blame
for it, and of course there's plenty of blame to
go around that Hillary Clinton was not president of the
United States of America. When the intelligence agencies declared war
on Donald Trump, Barack Obama was.
Speaker 7 (17:19):
Well. Barack Obama famously changed the rules on his way
out sharing data across all intelligence agencies, and he, you know,
famously had a wire tap in Donald Trump's facilities as
they were planning their election. So there was deeper actions
(17:42):
going on than just this Russian collusion story. The Russian
collusion story is a big deal because it helps people
understand the patterns of the games that they were playing.
But you know, as you say, Barack Obama is not
innocent on this, and he was doing many more activities
that I would like to get to the bottom of.
I mean, with Tulsea Gabbert, I like what Tulsa Gabbert's
(18:04):
doing trying to create more transparency as far as what
the intelligence agencies were doing putting people on lists. I mean,
I think I was put on a list. My website
was taken down by Go Daddy right before the election,
Go Daddy's Federal Crimes Division, and I'm like, well, what
the heck did I do? Nobody pointed to anything that
(18:25):
I could do. I did the employees that GoDaddy had
no idea what I did, and they actually helped me
get my domain back because they were like, we don't
this is not what we do. It was the Federal
Crimes Division, right, So they were targeting people all over
the place, and I think that directly ties back to
Obama and Brennan. And of course they're directing blame to
(18:48):
Hillary Clinton because she was the one that was running
for president at that, you know, back in twenty sixteen,
but twenty twenty was also you know, that's when my
website was taken down. I think that that apparatus was
set up and they had so many entrenched deep staters
in there that you know, they're still unwinding what was
(19:09):
set up in the Obama years.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Grief. Okay, back to Brennan. We know that he's a
dirty piece of trash, But did he do anything that
can land him in jail? And I ask it because
given the Epstein News and everything else, people I've just
about had it up to here with powerful people never
going to jail, Little people go to jail. Powerful people
(19:36):
never go to jail. But I don't want to sell
people a bill of goods. Can he go down for this?
Speaker 7 (19:43):
Well, I mean he's aligned to the American public. The
problem is a Smith up Matt Month. The Smith Month
Act was changed in twenty twelve, allowing them to do
propaganda against the American people. I think the biggest lie
is lyned to Congress and withholding evidence when they asked
for it. I think the crimes that will come out
by doing a true investigation will show there's plenty of
(20:06):
crime behind the scenes on what was going on. But
I think you're going to have to do some deeper
investigations to really flush out, you know, what was going
on and see where the crimes are. It's just like
the Epstein files. Those of us that have done a
lot of deep research knows that there was a black
(20:28):
male operation going on, and the only way that you
can get around it, you know, the Komi's daughter is
an expert, you know, with the puff Daddy. She represented
Jaslaying Maxwell as well. They're experts at diverting the attention
from the powerful players that are involved, and so the
only way to really get to the details is to
(20:49):
do a real investigation. John Mark Dugan, who is a
friend of mine, he famously m I six tipped off
the Times of London. This was back in like twenty
seventy that John Mark Dugan had all the Epstein tapes
videos back in twenty twelve, the investigators he was storing stuff.
(21:09):
He's in Palm Beach County and he was helping whistleblowers
and he was storing the tapes videos for the investigators
in the Epstein trial. And another journalist went and watched
these videos with them, and there was I believe there's
eight that they watch and then they decided this was
too much for them. But there were underage girls they
believe looked like underage girls with powerful men in these videos.
(21:33):
And I asked him, I interviewed, was the first one
to interview him on this, and I said, what's in
those tapes? And that's what he told me. And I said, well,
why don't you release these? And he goes because they're
going to his asylum in Russia. He said, they're gonna
they're they're gonna kill me. That's how we felt he
was going to be taken out. And so what he
did is he gave him out to ten different people
and has a dead men's with John. I mean, he goes,
(21:55):
but the FBI has all these videos, They have everything
I have because I just stored what they gave me,
and so he just felt like it wasn't his responsibility.
I don't know. He says that he has a family
and things, but now he's probably sitting on probably a
gold mine of information that everybody wants to get at.
But they had these videos. Is that the client list
(22:17):
or is that just the people who've been blackmailed but
they still slept with you know, maybe they were told
they were eighteen. I don't know, but that is the
blackmail operation that was going on. So people are disgusted
with all of this. They're disgusted that this is the
mode of operations that these people operate. Went in you know,
(22:39):
they blackmail and they coerce people, and so the more
you can the problem is you need good investigators that
are going to actually uncover and get to the details
and so much of this evidence depending on whether you're
talking about Epstein or they're talking to Russian inclusion, are
you talking about anything. As soon as there becomes like
serious crimes, they do a pretty good of getting rid
(23:00):
of it, and that's where the problem lies. But you
have to have serious investigators and I think we can
get to the bottom of this, especially the double edged
sword with surveillance is that we have the ability to
get to this information. I just have Bill Binnie on
the show. Who is the NSA whistleblower that actually is
coming on my show tonight and if people have I
(23:22):
want to know who he is. There's a documentary made
about him. A good American. He was the Nicholas Cage
character in the Snowden movie. He was Nick Snowden's mentor,
and he created this program called Thin Threat, and he
was talking about how overnight we could have details on
so many criminal activities. This is the double edged sword
of surveillance. And if they truly are doing the surveillance
(23:45):
they claim they are doing, why don't you use it
to take down the pedophiles and the criminals and all
these people that are involved. The problem is there are
a lot of powerful people involved and they don't want
it to be used because it can be used to
take them down. And if we I'm committed, people that
are really focused and laser focused on doing this, they
(24:06):
could do it.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
That's my uh my ass name, Thank you, I appreciate it.
Come back soon. All right. We'll dig into this with
Mike Moore in a moment before we do that. How
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We'll be back, okay. So obviously Epstein's been on everybody's mind.
We've been talking about it. I told you my thoughts
on the whole thing. I think it's ugly. I think
it stinks. I think a lot of evil government organizations
(25:40):
destroyed evidence, and I don't think the Trump administration looks
great trying to change the subject. But Mike Cernovich has
played a critical role in bringing any of this to light,
and I want to know what he thinks. You already
know what I think. Joining me now, my friend, author
and filmmaker Mike Cernovich, Mike, the floor is yours, my friend.
Speaker 10 (26:00):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
I mean, what's to say? Right? What's to say? You know,
you got cash and Bongino as good as it gets
them there? Really if you can't, if you can't trust them,
who can he trust? But you also have that weird
hostage video they did where they look like their eyes
were like saucers. You've never seen them look like that before.
(26:22):
And you have cash on Joe Rogan saying, hey, if
people have things to tell us, call us up. But
we're not going to revictimize victims. And everybody's thinking, nobody
is trying to get videos of the victims. Nobody's trying
to get the victims' names. What are you talking about, right?
It feels like you're in an argument with your wife.
(26:46):
What we don't want the names of the victims. We
don't want the videos of the victims. We don't want
to know anything about them. We want to know who
was on the list, or where the financial records were,
or why the search application remains under seal. Why James
Comy's daughter seems to have her hands on every big case.
(27:07):
The Puff Daddy case was torpedoed from what I can tell,
Why charge someone with such horrific crimes if you can't
prove the allegation. So either that was a mop up
operation or it was a completely unjust prosecution. And also
Comy's daughter had the Glamee Maxwell case. This is it's
like brothers, this is what we're asking for here. Okay,
(27:29):
let's stay on topic.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Mike, Where do we assign blame for this? Because honestly,
I talked about this a bit last night. It feels
like maybe the Pam Bondies of the world maybe trying
to ride, you know, the popular wave. Maybe over promised
an under delivered quite a bit. And that's one of
the things that's chafing people when you're all over the news.
(27:54):
It's on my desk, we're going to be releasing it,
Alina Habba, I've had the records and then it comes out,
well there's nothing. Well that's the kind of thing that
makes people feel like you're covering something up right.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
It could be a simple case of they jumped into
something that they didn't understand. I don't think they realized
how long we've been looking into this stuff. Right twenty
seven when I followed my original lawsuit to try to
obtain some Epstein records via a civil case of evolved,
I want to say that was January twenty seventeen. Do
(28:27):
you know how nice my hair looked? I mean not
to be glib when we're talking about a serious thing,
but that was wow.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Mike, Wow, thanks a lot for that.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
Yeah, yeah, wow, Mike. Way to just be a joker
about things that.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I don't have any I don't even have any.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
Man, right, and so you think how long ago it
was twenty seventeen. I don't even want to look at
pictures of myself from twenty seventeen. It depresses me. I go,
where did that young man go? That's how long we've
been on It's twenty twenty five, almost a decade decade later.
So people who weren't around with us jump in and
(29:06):
talk out a pocket, not realizing, no, we've been thinking
about this and going over it forever for thousands of hours.
And if you combined everybody Internet hundreds of thousands or
millions of hours, and maybe maybe they jumped into something
that they didn't understand. But I can tell you that
the reception for people like me, I trust, I would
trust cash be talk my life, no no cap for real,
(29:28):
for real, and the same true Bongino, and that if
they called me up and said there's a threat on
your life, I would be gone in a second to
a safe house. Right, So where does that leave us?
That's that's the big question, is that Pam Bondy, who
maybe doesn't know what she's doing and is getting steamrolled
(29:48):
because let's not you know, I don't want to be
sexist or anything. She's very attractive. She's also you would
never get sixty years old, right, And that generation is
much more trusting of institutions and maybe deferential to the institutions,
because I know that if you are the Attorney general,
or even Matt gaz if he had been Internet General,
(30:10):
we would say, why is it that James Comy's daughter
always seems to be in the middle of this? Right,
maybe we ought to not have a Komi in the
middle of this, and that, of course would be a question,
but not someone that Pambondi or someone of that era
might necessarily.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Ask Mike, I don't get the impression that trump'space is
going to let this go. And I got the impression
it's certainly off that answer he gave today that he
wants them to let this go. Why are we still
talking about this? We have the Texas floods, and I
don't think this is something they're just going to let go,
(30:50):
and it really seems like they want us to let
it go.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
Yeah, I didn't understand Trump's reaction to that either, other
than maybe he doesn't understand how big of a deal
it is the people, because there's always different ways to
interpret it. My view of it to back down what
a lot of people say is that's not Trump's thing.
Trump was never implicating the files. In fact, he was
asked that witnesses were asked and victims were asked about Trump,
(31:14):
and they all said he was never down there. Trump
kicked Epstein out of his club for creeping on a
member's daughter. So we know we know it isn't Trump
and his own self self preservation doing this right, But
why does he want people to move on? Especially here?
Here's something that I can't get over. You can put
the Wall Street Journal article on this where in an
(31:35):
email to Peter Teal, and we can imagine that there
were many other emails, like the scent reied Hoffman was
trying to make introductions for Jeffrey Epstein and to take
people to the island. So we know for a fact
that Reed Hoffman, founder of the E Jon and Carroll.
Remember that case in New York where Trump is suddenly
accused of something from forty years ago that nobody, nobody credible,
(31:55):
orrrational really thinks is happening, has a show trial New York.
So why hasn't battered Read Hoffman over the head with this?
Doesn't add up, does it?
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Right?
Speaker 6 (32:06):
I mean, imagine one of your worst enemies, the funders
of law Fair, the pusher of all the RuSHA Gate hoaxes,
somebody trying to destroy your reputation. I mean, what Trump
was accused of falsely, in my view, terrible stuff, right,
and read Hoffman funded all of this. So why is
Trump never mentioned that once? Why does Trump not beat
(32:26):
reed Hoffman over the head with that? I don't know, man,
That's a big question that there's no answer that I have.
I certainly don't have any answer to that.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
I don't have an answer to it either. Mike whatever, brother,
come back soon. I'll have even less here then. I
appreciate it, all right. Savannah Hernandez has lots of here.
We'll talk to her next.
Speaker 11 (33:00):
At the Prairieland Ice Detention Center in Alvado, Texas, ten
to twelve individuals dressed in black military style clothing began
shooting fireworks and engaging in acts of vandalism at the facility.
And this was part of an organized attack. Today, my
office has charged ten individuals with three counts of attempted
(33:25):
murder of a federal officer. Each of the ten are
also charged with three counts of discharging a firearm in
relation to a crime of violence. Each of these defendants
faces a mandatory prison term of ten years and up
to life in prison. It was a planned ambush with
the intent to kill Ice Corrections officers. Make no mistake.
(33:49):
This was not a so called peaceful protest. It was
indeed an ambush.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
I love fireworks. I already miss Independence Day, but that's
actually not important. That's not what we need to talk
about here. Joining me now, Savannah Hernandez, contributor for Turning
Point USA. Savannah, do you love fireworks, absolutely, I do. Jesse, Okay, good,
all right, now what happened here?
Speaker 10 (34:20):
Yeah, Jesse, you know this is not surprising behavior at all. Unfortunately,
the left wing has been emboldened for years at this point.
Antifa has been emboldened for years. I mean they've been
attacking ICE facilities in Portland for the last month, to
the point where you have residents that are now going
forward to sue the city because nobody is getting involved.
(34:40):
Now we are seeing ICE agents being targeted at various
facilities across the nation. And you know, it's not surprising
in the slightest because if you take a peek at
what has been going on regarding democrats, their language, what
they have allowed on the streets of this country, this
is the type of behavior that people have gotten away with,
been calling for violence against our federal officials, and they
(35:03):
have been pushing the back against these mass deportations. So
you know, it's really heartbreaking to see what is going
on in the streets quite frankly right now, but not surprising, Savannah.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
You spend a lot of time knee deep in these
protests with all these dirty street animals, but they've always
been violent. I get that. And as you just pointed out,
they've been terrorizing people for a while, they've killed people before,
but an organized ambush with a dozen of these freaks
seems like an escalation. I haven't seen something like that
before from them, have you, Yes?
Speaker 12 (35:38):
And no?
Speaker 10 (35:39):
I mean, I think what we're seeing now is we
saw these exact same ambushes and during BLM, right, we
saw federal courthouses that were being fire bombed. But now
they're simply moving their attention to these ICE facilities. So
we have seen these exact same tactics, but of course
the focus has now changed to these ICE facilities, which
is why it's so important for you know, our federal
(36:02):
officials to really bring down the hammer on these criminals
who are coming in and targeting these ICE facilities because
I only do see this continuing to get worse and
ICE agents, unfortunately and hopefully not I hope this doesn't happen,
but this could potentially lead to ICE agents of course
being killed because of the amount of targeting that is
continuing to happen. I mean, you even had Karen bask
(36:22):
the mayor of Los Angeles, just yesterday going in and
trying to impede you know, ICE going in and trying
to conduct these raids of criminals who should not be
in this country.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
It's not just happening in Los Angeles speaking of protecting
all the foreigners. It's happening in New York where they're
still giving out free stuff. Just how many illegals are
still huddled up in these sanctuary places run by these
dirt balls.
Speaker 10 (36:51):
And you know, Jesse, I wish I could give you
that number, but I unfortunately can't because all of these
illegal immigrants are now being hidden now. I was recently
in New York and what is happening right now is
the shelters are being shut down and Roosevelt Hotel, which
is one of those main processing centers, is completely empty.
For the first time since I've reported there since twenty
twenty two, there was not one illegal immigrant standing outside.
(37:13):
But what's happening is the City of New York just
signed a one billion dollar deal to now kind of
just move those illegal immigrants into the homeless shelters, which
by the way, receive federal funding. So this is for
eighty six thousand people to receive these emergency shelters. In
January of this year, Eric Adams was stating that you
still had fifty one thousand illegal immigrants that were utilizing
(37:34):
city shelters. So you know, we're not going to get
those exact numbers because unfortunately, sanctuary cities across the United
States of America are still hiding illegal immigrants in plain sight.
And now, instead of using the tax payer dollars in
New York to house these people in free hotel rooms,
they're taking federal funding from people all across the United
States of America to hide them in homeless shelters and
(37:55):
even further Jesse, these homeless services have told their employees
that they cannot allow ice into the facilities, that ice
detainers are not enough to grant them access to facilities,
and it is illegal for them to share the immigration
status of their clients.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Savannah can maybe you can lay this out for me.
What happened to Eric Adams. Eric Adams, I know he's
not on our side, but started closing up the Trump
some FBI charges went away. He's selling himself right now
as the anti man Donnie and all that Stuff's fine,
but are they doing this behind his back or with
his permission?
Speaker 10 (38:34):
I think that the Trump administration knows what's going on,
and hopefully you know what my hope for this is
after this big, beautiful bill passed and we did get
that funding for the mass deportations, my hope is that
New York will allow ICE to come in and you know,
enact its job and conduct these raids. But what's happening
(38:55):
is you have such an infiltration through all of the
various organizations and run programs in New York that they're
essentially ignoring the federal government. They're going to ignore whatever
Eric Adams says. At the end of the day, he's
still an open border, sanctuary city Democrat, so he's going
to allow these officials to you know, circumvent our federal
laws and not work with ICE in DHS.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
All right, let's shift gears and talk about the absolute
horror going on in Curville, Texas. I understand you have some.
Speaker 10 (39:27):
Knowledge on all that, yes, Jesse, So I was on
the ground yesterday and that's where my focus has been.
So I was up there, and you know, I just
want to start off with some good news because this
has been such a heavy subject for the people of Texas.
But just to start us off with some good news,
we have had eight hundred and fifty people that have
(39:47):
since been rescued. I was at the donation centers up
in Kerville, and they have received so many donations from
all across Texas that they're actually oversupplied and they're now
having to rent out ware houses to send those supplies to.
And this is happening in both the Kerrville area and
then also various counties in Austin. So so many people
in Texas donating to help out these efforts regarding what
(40:10):
you know I saw on the ground, absolutely horrifying situation.
You have those major floods that have at this point
killed one hundred and eight people, including thirty children. Really
heartbreaking to witness. I was speaking to some residents on
the ground who were there during those floods. Luckily the
resident I spoke to, his home was on a hill.
(40:31):
She stated that the flood waters rose so quickly that
they were reaching almost the top of the trees. You know,
initial report stating that those floodwaters rose about twenty six
thirty feet in just forty five minutes. So complete devastation
up there, and a lot of these donation centers now
asking for monetary support. They've received so many supplies that
they are helping of course the residents that need it,
(40:53):
but now they need those monetary donations because the next
now natural progression of this cleanup is going to be
removing all of the cars, the mattresses that are currently
stuck in trees, all of the debris on the roads.
So we were seeing both you know, State and of
course a lot of locals helping with this devastating the
flood and the aftermath.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Grief, Savannah, thank you, appreciate it. All right, lighten the
mood next. All right, it is time to lighten the mood.
And first of all, before we get to the hero,
(41:39):
one of the many heroes in Texas, maybe you are
interested in giving some monetary support to help people recover. There,
give sen go dot com slash Texas Flood Relief Fund.
All right, give sen go dot com. Slash Texas Relief
(42:00):
Fund is a place where you can go. There are
other places as well, wonderful places, but that's one of
the places you can go if there's something you want
to give to help out. Okay, now let's talk about
Scott Ruskin, and there are still a lot of heroes
in America.
Speaker 12 (42:17):
The Coast Guard launched us and decided to send a
rescue crew from Airstation Corpus Christie at about six thirty
seven am on Friday, the fourth of July. I got
on scene boots on the ground, it can't miss it,
kind of discovered I was the only person there as
far as like first responders go. So yeah, I had
about two hundred kids, mostly all scared, terrified, cold, having
(42:38):
probably the worst day of their life, and I just
kind of need to triage them, get them to a
higher level care, and get them off the flood zone.
With a lot of the US sixty Army helicopters, now,
I was kind of the main guy as far as
like grabbing people usually like fifteen to ten kids at
a time, maybe one adult with them and bringing them
over to those sixties and getting them to a different
LZ that was kind of safe and had more first
(43:01):
responders than just myself out there. When I got on scene,
there was you know, two hundred kids looking to someone
for some sort of comfort and safety. They don't really
know what my experiences or my rank or my age.
They just know, hey, this guy's a professional and he's
here to help us. And I kind of had to
live up to that standard. But yeah, the real heroes.
I think were too, the kids on the ground, Like,
those guys are heroic, and you know, they were dealing
with some of the worst times in their lives and
(43:21):
they were staying strong and that helped inspire me to
kind of get in there and help them out. And
the kids too, like they're being so brave and tough,
and like I know, there's a lot of them. I
was able to kind of like get hands on with.
And if you guys yet, seriously, like you guys were
the best, Like, I'm sorry this happened to you guys,
but you guys were so brave and tough, and it
made me like a better rescuer.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Because you guys were acting so bravely.
Speaker 12 (43:41):
I'm just a person, right, I'm just a guy, just
a dude. I you know, I chose to listen to
Coast Guard. Anyone is able to do this. Anyone's able
to do this job. If you raise your right hand,
do it. So I'm just happy I was giving the
opportunity to help these people.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Out passing off the credit. It wasn't me, it was
the kids. It's happy to be here. Some really wonderful
people still in this country. I'll see them all
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