There is A LOT going on right now. Jesse Kelly unpacks as much news as he can in this edition of I'm Right. From medical emergencies to massive scandals, there's no shortage of things to talk about. Megyn Kelly joins Jesse for an exclusive interview discussing the Russia hoax, Jeffrey Epstein and much more. You'll also hear from Miranda Devine on the big news of the day as well as an interview she did with Eric Adams on Pod Force One. Plus, some big news on artificial intelligence broken down by Joe Allen.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Obama official is lawyering up. We will pay tribute to somebody.
(00:04):
I never do that, but we will tonight somebody who died.
Megan Kelly joins us, Miranda Devine joins us with her
Australian accent. All that and more coming up on I'm right, Okay,
I'm going to do something that I really never do
(00:26):
on this show. You know, we'd like to honor the
fallen on this show. I'm talking about fallen troops and
people who die in training and things like that. We
try to do that as much as we can. But
I'm not celebrity guy. I don't do pop culture really,
and it's not because I don't take any stock in it.
It's not an interest for me, and so when celebrities die,
(00:51):
it's not something we generally talk about here. Not that
it doesn't matter, pray for their families, it's just not
going to be a regular subject of conversation here on
I'm right. That's just kind of how we've chosen to
run things here on the show. But I'm sure you
heard already by now that Hulk Hogan, wrestling legend Hulk
Hogan died at the age of seventy one cardiac arrest
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at his home in Florida. And before I play you something,
I just want to say something I may not do
pop culture, but entertainment actually is really really important. Every
society of every size and history has had established forms
(01:38):
of entertainment. Why is that? If you go to a
tiny Indian tribe in the year fifteen hundred in America,
you will find that they have a form of entertainment
forms plural of entertainment. Large nations, small tribes, all of
them have forms of entertainment. Why is it just to
(01:59):
take a load off? That's part of it, but another
part of entertainment. It's actually a critically important part, a
critically important pillar that holds up your society. It's not
just people get to take a load off and get
to enjoy something. People get to come together to enjoy something.
It's part of the social fabric entertainment when it's when
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it's done right, it holds things together. And and we're
gonna cring. You're gonna cringe and win wins a little
bit when I say this now, because of the ones
we have, But it's true. The top entertainers of any
kind in your society, sports stars, you know, the actors whatever,
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whoever they may be, wrestling stars, the values they push
and promote, they actually are really important. I grew up.
I'll be honest with you. I know it's gonna sound ridiculous.
Part of what formed my world on many things America, morality, bravery,
(03:04):
things like that, was watching John Wayne movies with my dad.
It just was no, I'm the good guy. The good
guy does what's right. The good guy fights the bad guy.
If the good guy has to die fighting the bad
guy to protect the women, that's what he will do.
Sounds ridiculous, but it's true. We as a society we
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get things. We get guidance right or wrong from our entertainers,
from our top entertainers, and every society in history has
understood that. Now on to Haul Cogan and really the
nineteen eighties in general. You know that I am not
a back in my day guy where I pretend that
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everything used to be wonderful and now everything is terrible.
I know that's a very common thing as people get older.
I don't do that. I don't believe that there were
terrible things back then there are wonderful things today. I
don't do that. So I'm not doing that here, but
the nineteen eighties. I was born in nineteen eighty one,
so I was a child obviously who lived all throughout
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the nineteen eighties. I can't properly describe to people today
who are too young to remember how wonderful it was
the mood of the country. It was fun and aspiration
when it was wild, and it was so over the
top and crazy, it was ridiculous in ways. But the music,
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you could hear it in the music. The music matters too,
the music feeling good, feels great America. And it was
so over the top patriotic that there was a feeling
even as a small child America, baby America. And I
know he was a professional wrestler, and I am wrestlings
fake and all that other stuff. I don't know that
(04:52):
there is somebody who exemplifies everything I just said the
way Hulk Hogan did back in the day. Even when
you didn't watch wrestling, everyone knew him. Everyone knew all
about him. I mean moments like this, I know it's
fake and it's whatever. Moments like this, they were iconic,
and the whole country watched.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Love Right Now with an Irish weapon too.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
He read a hale thought on.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
He can't drop the bicky. Look at hate it. He's
gone out of show. That's the first time I think
the guitar and take it to knocked up the steep
like that, look at the look at the price of
a check. Here he's honking up jests. I don't know
if he's got enough lifted him that. I'll try to
(05:42):
get you what does we're saying what this guy is
really made on him?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
What he is?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
The guy is professional likely than a world today. When
you look at this, I can't believe it.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I don't believe it.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Don't talk it up.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
It rest in peace, halkster. It was a wonderful time
to be around, and maybe, just maybe we can get
back to those times. So let's honestly not to change
(06:22):
the subject too fast here, but let's talk about how
we lost that. Because we did, it's different now. You
don't see as much of that now. Our entertainers, our
people are much more likely to crap all over the
country every chance they get, and spread that all throughout society.
We suffer from that, and a huge part of that,
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huge part of why we are where we are right now.
It's Barack Obama and his communist tension that he brought
into the government. Leadership matters, entertainment, leadership, political leadership. It
does matter a lot. These people hate us, have hated us,
and they wrecked us. Now we're finding out Justice Department
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has announced the formation of a strikeforce. It's kind of
a cool name. What's the strikeforce going to do? They're
going to attack this Russian hoax stuff and hopefully come
up with something. Who are the criminals, what crimes did
they commit, and what convictions can we get? And this
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is very very important. It's very important, and James Clapper
seems to be taking it seriously.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
And I take seriously when President of the United States
accuses me of being a participant in a treasonous conspiracy,
which is ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
Yeah, what's your reaction to that?
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Traditionous? It just is, it is untrue.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
So what will you do if they come after you?
What is your plan?
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Well, I'll while lawyer up. I suppose already have you've.
Speaker 7 (07:58):
Already hired attorneys in case of anticipation that this Trump
just the storman could try to prosecute.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
We've had sort of perpetual attorneys since I left the
government in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, he's a criminal. We've had a country occupied led
by criminals inside of the federal government. They got inside
the federal government and they committed criminal acts. And now
is our chance. I cannot stress this point enough. This
is our chance to possibly turn this country around. I
(08:32):
believe that we are at an inflection point in this
country with this Russia hoax thing right here. And it's
for this reason. If you can take over the CIA,
FBI and you can use that to smash Republicans and
protect Democrats, and you can do that without consequence. You know,
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if the James Clappers of the world don't burn for this,
then you know we're going to get another Democrat president
at some point. Pray to God, it's not soon, but
you're not naive. At some point, we're going to get
another one. When we get another one, they're also going
to fill up the government with communists. And if those
communists don't see that someone burnt the last time they
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did this, then they will do worse the next time.
It's not that they'll do the same thing, they will
do worse what Barack Obama did and then Joe Biden
after him. It's just the taste of what these people
truly want to do. Remember, these people share the exact
same worldview of Joseph Stalin. You can believe that or not,
(09:38):
but it's true. They share the exact same worldview and
they would do all the exact same things. What they'd
really like is just to send the FBI to your
door for being a registered Republican, throw handcuffs on you,
and chuck you in a cage or worse. That's really
what they'd like. They have limits on what they can
do in this country, but that's really what they truly
want to do. This is a very very, very big deal. Also,
(10:00):
I don't know if it's a very big deal, but
the fact that here with the Clinton was probably on
tranquilizers was hilarious.
Speaker 8 (10:07):
There were high level DNC emails that detailed evidence of
Hillary's quote, psycho emotional problems, uncontrolled fits of anger, aggression,
and cheerfulness, and that then Secretary Clinton was allegedly on
a daily regiment of heavy tranquilizers.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I guess that explains why they had to chuck her
in the back of a van. Anyway, before we get
to anything else, we have to make fun of the media,
talk about why they're going crazy. Trying to protect Stephen Colbert.
I want to get Megan Kelly's take on the Russian hoa,
so let's bring her in. The great Megan Kelly, you
know what's weird to me is the reaction to Stephen
(10:48):
Colbert getting canceled. And you know what, Megan, I was
going to play this montage of everyone in the media
freaking out about it, but I'm not even going to
bother because I know you've seen it. Everyone's seen it.
It's a late night show. Can you explain why they're
warning the guy as if he's dying from cancer? What
did I miss here?
Speaker 6 (11:04):
I know, I know.
Speaker 9 (11:06):
It is the most absurd overreaction. It's television. You'll survive,
You'll be fine. But it really does just prove the
real reason he was there, which was not to entertain
or to amuse, but to try to take down Trump.
Just be a Republican antagonist. That's what he became, That's
what his relevance was. And in the end, they're fearful
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that that's why he's getting fired. That's actually not exactly
why he's getting fired. That's why he failed because he
wasn't adhering to the core mission. No one wanted to
watch his attempt to be Adam Schiff every night in
the late night slot, and it didn't.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
Work out as a commercial matter.
Speaker 9 (11:46):
And so now their hero, you know, their chief antagonist
of the left, is getting a smaller platform, like I
guess a podcast or something else, and that's just not
okay with them. They're used to dominating cultural institutions and
seeing everyone roll.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
Over with it.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Megan, you are obviously a seasoned veteran of this industry.
You've been at all the major players, you know, all
the behind the scenes stuff. So can you help me
understand how that can happen? When I say that, how
can you allow your late night comedy show everyone remembers
Leno and Letterman Carson before him. How can you let
(12:22):
that comedy show turn into just a partisan show? If
for no other reason, that's bad business. Right, half the
country hate your guts, that's bad business. Even Michael Jordan
said Republicans buy shoes too. What happened?
Speaker 9 (12:36):
It was too ideologically important to them to try to
kill Trump, you know, rhetorically, when he won in sixteen,
no one thought he could do it. They were still
so shell shocked they thought, oh my god, this must
be a racist, misogynistic, xenophobic country.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
Were not who we thought we were.
Speaker 9 (12:55):
And so that's when truly, like the TVs ors, the
chief tds ors, and Stephen Colbert right at there at
the top of the list, started really turning and leaning
hard into more politics as their shows.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
And I mean I've been on Colbert.
Speaker 9 (13:09):
I've been on all these late night shows, literally every
single one of them.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
And even in the.
Speaker 9 (13:13):
Initial couple of years of Trump, Colbert was doing more politics,
but he wasn't full politics. He would still start the
show every night with a celebrity, like an A list
celebrity or two, and then he'd throw in like a
newsperson like me or a politics person maybe last. But
the morph happened over the Trump presidency and then thereafter
whence Trump ran to you know, to get the presidency again,
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where he just devoted himself entirely to trying to defeat him,
and the network brass was completely on the same page.
They're as left as he is, Jesse. They're not further
to the right judging him. They're like, go, ghost even go.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
But even understanding that obviously this is a big boy network, CBS,
you're gonna have share you're gonna have even if you
were the most left wing, filthy maoist comedy in the
world in your CEO of CBS. The bottom line still
determines your bonus, right m.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
Hm, Yes, But they didn't care.
Speaker 9 (14:13):
I mean it was for a while there they could
just bull themselves that it was, you know, just temporary
and it was important. And then by the time it
had settled into like the new reality, they were all
doing it. Even Jimmy Fallon got way more political after
Trump became president than he ever had been before.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
And Kimmel.
Speaker 9 (14:32):
Kimmel used to just be fun and funny. That's how
he and Adam Carolla got to be great friends. And
then he turned her Like they were all doing it.
It was like they were on a late seth Myers too,
a late night mission John Oliver to bring Trump down.
So by that point, were they really going to have
the only guy who'd been the worst of all of
them suddenly just go back to telling jokes.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
It was too late.
Speaker 9 (14:52):
They'd already alienated half the country. It's the same thing
with CNN when it decided.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
A couple of years ago.
Speaker 9 (14:57):
I was trying to be fair and balanced again. Yeah,
look how that worked out. It's too late. You already
kissed half your audience.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
Goodbye. They're not coming back.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Wow, it's wild how suicidal these people are. Okay, let's
change the subject, because I'm dying to get your your
honest take on the Russia hoag stuff. I say honest,
not that that's difficult for you, but I don't want
to blow smoke. I haven't been blowing smoke, you know.
I believe Barack Obama should go to prison for the
rest of his life for this. I'm also not naive,
and I don't think that's going to happen. But can
(15:29):
somebody big burn for this, Megan, because somebody really needs
to burn for this, whoever that may be. Is that
possible or is that just ridiculous wishful thinking?
Speaker 9 (15:39):
No, I've been loving your clips on this, by the way,
It's like it makes me feel better when I watch
the Jesse Kelly clips on this story.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
I don't know. I wouldn't bet on it. There is
a huge scandal here.
Speaker 9 (15:52):
It is a very real scandal, and it's actually truly shocking.
Whether they're going to be able to get somebody convicted
criminally is a different qu question. Not everything that's horrible
is a crime or within the statute of limitations. And
in President Obama's case, thanks to Trump's case, he will
be recognized as having immunity for virtually all of his
official acts, so that will likely save him. But I
(16:15):
don't know the full extent of what they've got, you know,
Tulsey's revealing everything, drip, drip, drip, and I don't know
whether I mean, I can say that the Obama immunity
is not going to help John Brennan or James Comey,
who might be helped by the statutes of limitations on
the potential crimes that they may have committed, including possibly perjury.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
I was just looking at it.
Speaker 9 (16:36):
The perjury statute of limitations federally is five years, but
you can get it told, meaning extended. It won't start
to run until later. If, for example, you can show
the person who perjured themselves was then responsible for covering
up the truth such that it was not discovered until
much later. And look, with this document that just came out,
(16:58):
this House report that was put in a vault in
Langley for the last nine years or however long it's been,
no five years, since twenty twenty, you could make a
clever argument. But I think it would require clever arguments.
It wouldn't be a straight cut route from they did
dastardly deeds to they're now getting criminally charged, never mind convicted.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Okay, well, Megan, your legal chops obviously far exceed mine,
because I'm a moron. Does Pam Bondy have those chops?
Is this something she's going to be able to do?
You know as well as I do. The type of
lawyers Clapper and Brennan and Comb, you know, the type
of lawyers they're going to get. These are not going
to be spring chickens, and they're not going to be idiots.
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They're going to be very capable people. Do we have
the guns on our side to make this happen?
Speaker 6 (17:47):
I don't know that.
Speaker 9 (17:47):
I mean Pam Bondi wouldn't be doing it herself. She
would have some deputy over there do it, and eventually
it would get argued and appealed and go up on
appeal to the US Supreme Court.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
And we've got a great solicitor general. That guy's asked.
Speaker 9 (18:00):
He's got a very winning record in front of the
Supreme Court.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
But it depends.
Speaker 9 (18:04):
I'm just I feel like I'm firing a gun right
now with no bullets in it because I don't really
know what. They haven't even mentioned what the potential crimes
could be. All we really know is that they've referred
John Brennan, the head of the CIA under Obama and
James call Me, the head of FBI under Obama, and
then Trump, to the DOJ for possible prosecution. They've said
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almost nothing about the Comy charges, and the Brennan charges
seem to be related to allegedly fallse statements he made
about the Steel dossier, what role it played in the
intelligence assessment which has been completely blown up this week
thanks to Tulsi as just a big pack of lies,
and what he knew about it. Beyond those two, what
we're seeing now for the first time is that Barack
Obama orchestrated it all, that he was the one who
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took an intelligence community that was about to respond the
Russia interference really wasn't that bad. It was kind of
milk toast and changed it at his direction to oh
it was, it's huge, and it was all done to
help Trump. And today or yesterday, we learned that the
only justification they had for that latter conclusion was the
discredited Steele dossier, which they knew was but proceeded with anyway,
(19:16):
and three other sources, which, if it's possible, were even
less supported than the Steele dossier. And the latest document
dump shows that one multiple CIA agents went to John
Brennan to say.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
You can't put that in there.
Speaker 9 (19:31):
You cannot say that putin interfered to help Trump. We
don't have that, and you cannot rely on the Steel dossier.
That thing's totally not credible. And Brennan looked at him
and said one of them and said, but it has
the whiff of truth, doesn't it.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
It seems like it could be true.
Speaker 9 (19:47):
That's that's how the whole country spent years with Russia Gate.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Jesse, I mean the whiff of truth.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
What an ugly place to be, Okay, speaking of an
ugly place to be before we let you go the
Epstein stuff. It's not surprising to me. I told everybody
as soon as Trump started telling everyone to shut up
and move on and shut up and move on and
stop talking about this shoe idiot, I knew that he
was in there somewhere. They have a mess on their hands.
They over promised, they under delivered and now a portion,
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whatever size it is, of his base. And frankly, people
who aren't in his base, they want the goods, goods
that may not even exist. How do they navigate these
rough waters from here?
Speaker 9 (20:34):
I know, I wish Trump had just released whatever documents
he could right at the beginning.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
We don't. The Epstein scandal is not about Trump.
Speaker 9 (20:44):
It is about a man who was a disgusting, perverted,
criminal predator who, along with his top emissary, Glene Maxwell,
recruited young girls fourteen and possibly younger, were awaiting more
details to come to his townhouse and to perform sex
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acts on him. That's what the scandal's about. And the
question is was it beyond Jeffrey Epstein?
Speaker 6 (21:09):
Who is it with?
Speaker 9 (21:11):
If there were other powerful, powerful men he provided this
service to, who were they and how young like? Those
are very relevant questions. That's what we want to know.
But the left has decided that it's all about Trump.
Trump gave them a window by being so cagey about
releasing the documents, and now the Wall Street Journal, you
know he's doing a drip or a drip of Here's
(21:31):
Trump's saucy letter to Epstein on his birthday. Trump denies
it's him, and it's very weird, but it sounds like
something like an aid would have written, and with oh,
he's in the Epstein files, with which Elon Musk already
told us. I mean, everybody knows that the two men
had a friendship for fifteen years.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
What does in the Epstein files mean?
Speaker 9 (21:49):
Is he in there as having had a sexual interlude
with an underage girl? You don't think Joe Biden's DJ
would have released that, Joe Biden's FBI.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
Or Jim Comey point. There's no way.
Speaker 9 (22:02):
He's in there in any meaningful way. I just don't
believe it. But I can't say the same about rich
donors connected friends of his and possibly of those on
the left. Dad, I'd really like to see, and I
don't think we will.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
The great Megan Kelly. Everybody go catch her show, subscribe
to her YouTube. It's awesome. By the way, Megan, I
love you. You're the best. All right. Miranda Devine is
going to join us next. We're going to comb through
what she knows about this. She's such a great reporter,
she has great sources. Let's figure out the who's who
and what's what. Let's all get smarter. Before we do that,
(22:39):
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(23:25):
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Speaker 4 (23:56):
Se Gabbert is simply an opportunist in this play.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Right.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Her star is falling. Her analysis was thrown out the
window on Iran. She embarrassed herself with that that somewhat
bizarre video about nuclear weapons in Japan, and so she's
using this as an opportunity to get herself back into
favor with the White House.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
That's my personal assessment.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
But you know, this is uh, this seems to be
kind of the state of the union, what we're in
right now.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Well, that's very interesting, not for what I just heard,
but for what I didn't. Here joining me now the
great Miranda Divine, host of the pod Force one podcast
and of course fantastic columnists with an Australian accent. Miranda,
I didn't hear a denial. I heard some personal smears,
but I didn't hear a denial. Did you hear denial?
Speaker 10 (24:51):
No?
Speaker 3 (24:52):
I didn't. And I think that these Russia hoaxes are
actually quite being quite careful now. James Clapper is just
admitted that he's lawyered up. I heard that John Brennan
was looking to go and live in Ireland. I don't
know if that's true, but I've got a tip from somebody.
(25:12):
So I think that they are worried because they've you know,
it's a very different beast to be in the crosshairs
of federal prosecutors compared to congressional investigators. I think a
lot of conservatives are pretty cynical now. They think that
nothing will ever happen to these people. It's been a
long time. I mean they started this hoaxing in twenty sixteen,
(25:36):
maybe even before, and I guess you know, people have
given up. It's almost a decade. But I think that
there's enough evidence now. And Telsey Gabbat has been incredible
the way they used AI to scour the archives and
put together this quite damning dossier of information, or actually
(26:00):
several of them. Now we've got the CIA. John Ratcliffe
has done a great job. He kicked it off, and
now Telsey Gabbett has come in with a couple more tranches.
So it's all what we knew happened, but we really
couldn't prove it, at least not enough in a court
of law. But it looks like she's piecing together a
(26:22):
pretty good case for the prosecution.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Miranda, Can you dive for a couple of minutes into
the role of DNI. You know, Brannan is understood CIA director,
call me, he's understood FBI director. But just the very
role of DNI itself has a lot of people confused.
What do they actually do? Because Clapper from my sources
tell me, if someone's going to burn they could easily
(26:47):
be Clapper for all this. What is the DNI What
they do to Trump?
Speaker 3 (26:53):
So the dn I is the Director of National Intelligence,
and it's kind of a nothing job and an every
thing job. Supposed to be coordinating all the now eighteen
intelligence agencies. Back then when the Russia hoax was launched,
there were seventeen and it's basically to make sure that
(27:15):
there aren't any sort of gaps where information gets lost
between the agencies like happened in before nine to eleven.
So it's more of a coordinating role. You can do
nothing or you can use that immense power because you
sit on top of all those agencies effectively, you know,
the CIA, the FBI, the rest of them, DSA, they
(27:38):
all have to at least answer to you somewhat. So
she has the ability to ask for information to go,
you know, demand information from all these agency heads and
dig into their archives and call on their expertise. And
that's what she does. She's also doing a few other things.
She's i think taking a little bit of the power
(28:00):
away from the CIA. Certainly when it comes to the
Presidential Daily Brief, it's a job that she's changing the
job description on the go as she sees fit, and
she's been given a lot of authority by the President
to do that. She's definitely in his trust circle. And
(28:23):
I think she gets on very well, certainly with John
Ratcliffe anyway, because they've been working hand in glove.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Ratcliffe's not on Fox News every other minute, so we
don't talk about him enough, but he's been doing a
pretty dag one good job with the CIA, hasn't he.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Yes, And you really wouldn't expect him to talk much
as you know, the head of the CIA, you would
expect that to be a kind of a voiceless role,
just acting quietly in the shadows. But he's obviously made
it his goal very early on to go and do
(29:02):
a review of that pivotal intelligence community assessment that Telsey
Gabbett has just now told us that was fake, ordered
by Obama overrode the actual intelligence community a view that
Russia had not intervened in the twenty sixteen election to
(29:23):
favor Donald Trump. That was a lie, but that's what
Obama wanted Clapper and Comy and particularly Brennan, who drove
this fake intelligence assessment.
Speaker 10 (29:36):
To do.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
And so what John Ratcliffe showed us a couple of
weeks ago was he had his the professionals, the career professionals,
without fear or favor, to go through their archives, their assets,
intelligence assets, and dig into how that Pivotal Ica from
January twenty seventeen that said that Russia was into in
(30:01):
the election on Trump's behalf, and that also included in
it the totally bogus Steele dossier to find out how
that happened. And what John Ratcliffe's career professionals found was
that John Brennan drove it, that he hand picked the analysts,
and when a few of those analysts actually pushed back
(30:22):
on him and said, look, this Steele dossier, we cannot
include it because it's such a joke. It's so ridiculous,
it's totally made up, it's not verified, its facycle on
its face. If we include it, that will discredit the
entire assessment. He insisted John Brennan that it be included,
(30:42):
and so previously we were told that it was just
included as an annex, but no, it was included in
the actual body of the report. So it really colored
and discredited that report. And there were several other very
suspect things about that assessment, including the fact it was
(31:04):
rushed through. Why was it rushed through? Why did Barack
Obama insist that it be finished before the transition, before
Donald Trump came into office on January twenty of twenty seventeen.
Well because they wanted to have an assessment that said
what they wanted it to say, not the truth that
they immediately leaked before it was even finished, to know
(31:27):
their pet media mouthpieces in Washington Post, NBC, New York Times, etc.
And that set the stage for Donald Trump to enter
office as a marked man, as somebody seen as illegitimate,
as having been voted into office only because Vladimir Putin
(31:48):
tilted the scales in his favor. That really sabotaged his presidency.
And as Chelsey Gabbett called it yesterday, it was a
year's long coup by Barack Obama against his successor.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Gosh, what an ugly, freaking tangled web we've all right, Miranda,
I cannot let you go before asking about New York,
a city I dearly love. I believe it's a city
you call home. And to say I'm a little bit
afraid of the upcoming election will be to put it
quite mildly. Is this young Kami freak gonna win.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Well, I mean, all the smart money is on his
winning because I mean, look, every single New York mayoral
election since I've been here has been won by the
narrowest of margins, like turnouts of you know, ten to
fifteen percent. So New Yorkers are just, I don't know, apathetic.
(32:49):
I don't know why we watch the city fall down
around us from the time of Deblasio, after the great
reigns of Giuliani and Bloom, I think everyone just rested
on their laurels and thought that this was the safest
big city and everything would run itself. But Deblasio showed
us in his two terms what a disaster he could be.
(33:11):
And then Eric Adams has been an improvement, but that's
from a very low base. He's no Juliani, so but anyway, look,
he's a hell of a lot better than MANDANEI would be.
But he's very unpopular. I think that the what I
think was a stitched up lawfare against him by the
Biden administration has really damaged him. Plus the fact he
(33:33):
hasn't achieved all that much, plus the fact that New
York's a sanctuary city and these illegal aliens just infest
the place and sucking the Taxtra pair. Dry still ensconced
in these four star hotels around Midtown, and he seems
powerless to do much about it. So that's a problem.
(33:56):
And then you have Mamdani disaster, but you also have
who's splitting the independent vote with Adams. And then you
have Curtis Sleiewa who's run before for the Republicans, doesn't
really seem to be mounting.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Look the poles.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
To be fair, I don't want to be unfair to him.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
The Poles show him climbing, and he is working hard.
I'm just not sure if he is in a bit
of a stale offering, but I'm going to give him
the benefit of the doubt. But still with the three
of them as the non Mandani vote splitting what little
vote there is, that bother's turning out, it just looks
like Mandani Will Mendamia can pronounce his name properly, it
(34:39):
will just swoop in and be the accidental mayor yet again,
like Deblasio.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Oh God, have mercy, Miranda, thank you. I appreciate it.
All right, Joe Allen's going to join us and talk
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Speaker 11 (36:19):
America is the country that started the AI race, and
as President of the United States, I'm here today to
declare that America is going to win it. The reason
the last administration was so eager to regulate and restrict
AI was so they could limit this technology to just
a few large companies, allowing them to centralize it, censor it,
(36:43):
control it, weaponize it. This is the exact opposite of
my approach. The American people do not want woke Marxist
lunacy in the AI models, and neither do other countries.
From now on, the US government will deal only with
AI that pursues truth, fairness, and strict impartiality. We're not
going to go through the craziness that we've gone through
(37:05):
for the last four years.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Sure sounds good. We have to ask Joe about it,
because I don't know what the heck he's talking about.
Joining me now, Joe Allen, author of the wonderful book
prophetic Book Dark Eon. Okay, Joe, First of all, what
did the Biden administration do or try to do? What
did Trump undo? Explain this to me like I'm five.
Speaker 10 (37:32):
Well, Jesse and Biden administration, you had to push very
similar to what you would see say out of Davos,
the World Economic Forum, or maybe more un affiliated organizations.
They sought basically to harness the power of AI, but
also to steer it in a very liberal direction. And
(37:56):
the most powerful models were being produced and are still
being produce used by Google, by Open AI, by Anthropic
and all of those companies, like most companies in Silicon Valley,
have very much a kind of left leaning tendency, and
so the AIS ended up being you know, quote unquote
(38:16):
woke that you remember the cartoonish outputs from Google's Gemini
where people were asking for the founding fathers or people
were asking for vikings. Then it would bring like this
racially diverse cast. It was just like a cartoon that
was mentioned in the executive orders signed as Trump announced
(38:37):
the AI action plan from the White House. But that
is what he's talking about when he's talking about combating
woke AI. And also worth mentioning that collusion between the
Biden administration or that deal that seemed to be inevitable,
should Harris have gotten in between the big companies like Microsoft,
(38:58):
like Google and open A, I think that that would
have been the outcome. So what's happening under the Trump administration,
for better or worse, I am not personally optimistic, is
that he's extended the kind of privileges of government endorsement
and contracts more towards startups and companies like Pallenteer founded
(39:21):
by Peter Thiel now run by Alex Karp, or like
the suite of AI companies that Mark and Dreesen's investment
house in drees and Horowitz are promoting.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Okay, why aren't you optimistic?
Speaker 10 (39:40):
It just depends on what kind of life you want
to live. Do you want to live a life that
it's dominated by devices? Do you want to live a
life in which a significant proportion or maybe even the
majority of your population looks to artificial intelligence for what
is and isn't real and you know going out for there?
(40:00):
Do you want to move into a future like Elon
Musk is envisioning, or like most of the guys at
these frontier AI labs are talking about, in which humans
basically merge with the machines in various ways, whether it
be prosthetics and brain interfaces, or whether it be something
(40:21):
like wearable biometric devices and exoskeletons. In any case, the
sci fi future, I oftentimes say, there's no real conspiracy
other than the broad conspiracy to make science fiction real life,
and it's not a world I want to live in.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Okay, can you tell me. You know you see these
Internet rumors about AI turning on people, potentially turning on
people doing things to protect itself. Is that Internet stupid
rumor fodder or are we actually seeing this? And I asked,
because I know the military is starting to implement this stuff.
Speaker 10 (41:02):
Yes, it is happening. Most of those stories. For instance,
the widely publicized story that came out of an anthropic
lab about an engineer who was blackmailed with evidence that
he had a mistress. Right, he was going to shut
the machine down and the machine threatened to blackmail him.
(41:24):
That did occur, but it was it occurred in Anthropics
internal labs, so they were testing it and it started
doing that. It also started doing all these other things
that were very strange and unusual. It began, I think,
speaking in Sanskrit and talking about universal bliss and cosmic
(41:44):
consciousness something to that effect. And so, but these things
are happening, And the point of all of these tests,
and the lesson to be learned is that by their
very nature, AI systems make their own decisions. They they
are kind of de facto out of control. You can
put guardrails on them, you can train them in ways
(42:06):
that keep them more under control. But if an AI
system is worth its salt, it's going to have a
degree of freedom, is going to have independence. And so
that's how you end up in these sorts of situations.
And the fear is that if you unleash a super
powerful AI, it will make all sorts of decisions, many
of which don't have human interests as the core agenda.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Can't you make sure it does well?
Speaker 10 (42:34):
This is one of those things we're gonna have to
find out. So a big part of the AI Action
Plan that was unveiled yesterday, the third pillar, is about
the US leading and diplomacy and security on AI. And
rather than starting at the fountain head right, rather than
going upstream and regulating things that you know, saying no,
(42:56):
we will not create these systems that are of such
power and capable building, No, you cannot deploy these systems
on students and in corporations and infuse them into the
government and all these things. Instead of saying no, basically
the the Trump administration is saying, yes, we are going
to facilitate and do all of those things, and then
(43:17):
if problems emerge, we will begin to put more regulatory
measures in place, so they are planning on keeping it
under control, but they're going to play with it first.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Joe, don't read his book Dark Eon. It's freaking eerie,
but it is. It's true. It's a great book. Joe,
thank you, brother. I appreciate you as always. I feel
old every time we talk about this AI stuff. It
makes me feel old anyway. At least I have fresh
olive oil. I mean, that's something. It's not going to
(43:52):
protect me from AI, but it is delicious. Thanks to
farm Fresh two four six, I have fresh olive oil
all the time. You're all of oil is old garbage,
and it's not your fault. It's because you buy it
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down the aisle and grab a bottle of olive oil. Oh,
this looks like it's from Italy. We all do the
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four six dot com. Lighten the mood next, all right,
(44:48):
let's lighten the mood. And now that we just went
over dark scary AI, I thought we should do a
little throwback video. This is from the year nineteen ninety four.
Listen to how people were talking about technology.
Speaker 6 (45:01):
What is Internet?
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Anyway?
Speaker 7 (45:04):
Internet is that massive computer network, the one that's becoming
really big.
Speaker 6 (45:09):
Now, what do you mean that's big?
Speaker 9 (45:12):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (45:12):
How does one?
Speaker 1 (45:13):
What do you write to it? Like mail?
Speaker 6 (45:14):
No, a lot of people use it and communicate. I
guess they can communicate with NBC writers and producers. Alison,
can you explain what Internet is?
Speaker 1 (45:21):
No, she can't say anything.
Speaker 7 (45:22):
In ten seconds or left, Alison will be in the
studio shortly.
Speaker 6 (45:27):
What does it mean?
Speaker 12 (45:28):
It's a giant computer network made up made up of started.
Speaker 6 (45:31):
From Oh, I thought you're gonna tell us what this
was billboards.
Speaker 12 (45:35):
It's not, it's it's it's a computer billboard. But it's one.
It's it's several universities.
Speaker 9 (45:40):
And everything all join together and others can access it,
and it's getting came in.
Speaker 6 (45:46):
Really handy during the quake.
Speaker 7 (45:47):
A lot of people That's how they were communicating out
to tell family and loved ones they were okay because
all the phone lines were down. I was telling Katie,
but you don't need you don't need that.
Speaker 6 (45:54):
You don't need a phone line to operate.
Speaker 10 (45:56):
No.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
No, sounds like me talking about AI. Anyway, I see
them
Obama official is lawyering up. We will pay tribute to somebody.
(00:04):
I never do that, but we will tonight somebody who died.
Megan Kelly joins us, Miranda Devine joins us with her
Australian accent. All that and more coming up on I'm right, Okay,
I'm going to do something that I really never do
(00:26):
on this show. You know, we'd like to honor the
fallen on this show. I'm talking about fallen troops and
people who die in training and things like that. We
try to do that as much as we can. But
I'm not celebrity guy. I don't do pop culture really,
and it's not because I don't take any stock in it.
It's not an interest for me, and so when celebrities die,
(00:51):
it's not something we generally talk about here. Not that
it doesn't matter, pray for their families, it's just not
going to be a regular subject of conversation here on
I'm right. That's just kind of how we've chosen to
run things here on the show. But I'm sure you
heard already by now that Hulk Hogan, wrestling legend Hulk
Hogan died at the age of seventy one cardiac arrest
(01:15):
at his home in Florida. And before I play you something,
I just want to say something I may not do
pop culture, but entertainment actually is really really important. Every
society of every size and history has had established forms
(01:38):
of entertainment. Why is that? If you go to a
tiny Indian tribe in the year fifteen hundred in America,
you will find that they have a form of entertainment
forms plural of entertainment. Large nations, small tribes, all of
them have forms of entertainment. Why is it just to
(01:59):
take a load off? That's part of it, but another
part of entertainment. It's actually a critically important part, a
critically important pillar that holds up your society. It's not
just people get to take a load off and get
to enjoy something. People get to come together to enjoy something.
It's part of the social fabric entertainment when it's when
(02:21):
it's done right, it holds things together. And and we're
gonna cring. You're gonna cringe and win wins a little
bit when I say this now, because of the ones
we have, But it's true. The top entertainers of any
kind in your society, sports stars, you know, the actors whatever,
(02:41):
whoever they may be, wrestling stars, the values they push
and promote, they actually are really important. I grew up.
I'll be honest with you. I know it's gonna sound ridiculous.
Part of what formed my world on many things America, morality, bravery,
(03:04):
things like that, was watching John Wayne movies with my dad.
It just was no, I'm the good guy. The good
guy does what's right. The good guy fights the bad guy.
If the good guy has to die fighting the bad
guy to protect the women, that's what he will do.
Sounds ridiculous, but it's true. We as a society we
(03:26):
get things. We get guidance right or wrong from our entertainers,
from our top entertainers, and every society in history has
understood that. Now on to Haul Cogan and really the
nineteen eighties in general. You know that I am not
a back in my day guy where I pretend that
(03:48):
everything used to be wonderful and now everything is terrible.
I know that's a very common thing as people get older.
I don't do that. I don't believe that there were
terrible things back then there are wonderful things today. I
don't do that. So I'm not doing that here, but
the nineteen eighties. I was born in nineteen eighty one,
so I was a child obviously who lived all throughout
(04:09):
the nineteen eighties. I can't properly describe to people today
who are too young to remember how wonderful it was
the mood of the country. It was fun and aspiration
when it was wild, and it was so over the
top and crazy, it was ridiculous in ways. But the music,
(04:31):
you could hear it in the music. The music matters too,
the music feeling good, feels great America. And it was
so over the top patriotic that there was a feeling
even as a small child America, baby America. And I
know he was a professional wrestler, and I am wrestlings
fake and all that other stuff. I don't know that
(04:52):
there is somebody who exemplifies everything I just said the
way Hulk Hogan did back in the day. Even when
you didn't watch wrestling, everyone knew him. Everyone knew all
about him. I mean moments like this, I know it's
fake and it's whatever. Moments like this, they were iconic,
and the whole country watched.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Love Right Now with an Irish weapon too.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
He read a hale thought on.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
He can't drop the bicky. Look at hate it. He's
gone out of show. That's the first time I think
the guitar and take it to knocked up the steep
like that, look at the look at the price of
a check. Here he's honking up jests. I don't know
if he's got enough lifted him that. I'll try to
(05:42):
get you what does we're saying what this guy is
really made on him?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
What he is?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
The guy is professional likely than a world today. When
you look at this, I can't believe it.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I don't believe it.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Don't talk it up.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
It rest in peace, halkster. It was a wonderful time
to be around, and maybe, just maybe we can get
back to those times. So let's honestly not to change
(06:22):
the subject too fast here, but let's talk about how
we lost that. Because we did, it's different now. You
don't see as much of that now. Our entertainers, our
people are much more likely to crap all over the
country every chance they get, and spread that all throughout society.
We suffer from that, and a huge part of that,
(06:45):
huge part of why we are where we are right now.
It's Barack Obama and his communist tension that he brought
into the government. Leadership matters, entertainment, leadership, political leadership. It
does matter a lot. These people hate us, have hated us,
and they wrecked us. Now we're finding out Justice Department
(07:07):
has announced the formation of a strikeforce. It's kind of
a cool name. What's the strikeforce going to do? They're
going to attack this Russian hoax stuff and hopefully come
up with something. Who are the criminals, what crimes did
they commit, and what convictions can we get? And this
(07:27):
is very very important. It's very important, and James Clapper
seems to be taking it seriously.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
And I take seriously when President of the United States
accuses me of being a participant in a treasonous conspiracy,
which is ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
Yeah, what's your reaction to that?
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Traditionous? It just is, it is untrue.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
So what will you do if they come after you?
What is your plan?
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Well, I'll while lawyer up. I suppose already have you've.
Speaker 7 (07:58):
Already hired attorneys in case of anticipation that this Trump
just the storman could try to prosecute.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
We've had sort of perpetual attorneys since I left the
government in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, he's a criminal. We've had a country occupied led
by criminals inside of the federal government. They got inside
the federal government and they committed criminal acts. And now
is our chance. I cannot stress this point enough. This
is our chance to possibly turn this country around. I
(08:32):
believe that we are at an inflection point in this
country with this Russia hoax thing right here. And it's
for this reason. If you can take over the CIA,
FBI and you can use that to smash Republicans and
protect Democrats, and you can do that without consequence. You know,
(08:55):
if the James Clappers of the world don't burn for this,
then you know we're going to get another Democrat president
at some point. Pray to God, it's not soon, but
you're not naive. At some point, we're going to get
another one. When we get another one, they're also going
to fill up the government with communists. And if those
communists don't see that someone burnt the last time they
(09:16):
did this, then they will do worse the next time.
It's not that they'll do the same thing, they will
do worse what Barack Obama did and then Joe Biden
after him. It's just the taste of what these people
truly want to do. Remember, these people share the exact
same worldview of Joseph Stalin. You can believe that or not,
(09:38):
but it's true. They share the exact same worldview and
they would do all the exact same things. What they'd
really like is just to send the FBI to your
door for being a registered Republican, throw handcuffs on you,
and chuck you in a cage or worse. That's really
what they'd like. They have limits on what they can
do in this country, but that's really what they truly
want to do. This is a very very, very big deal. Also,
(10:00):
I don't know if it's a very big deal, but
the fact that here with the Clinton was probably on
tranquilizers was hilarious.
Speaker 8 (10:07):
There were high level DNC emails that detailed evidence of
Hillary's quote, psycho emotional problems, uncontrolled fits of anger, aggression,
and cheerfulness, and that then Secretary Clinton was allegedly on
a daily regiment of heavy tranquilizers.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I guess that explains why they had to chuck her
in the back of a van. Anyway, before we get
to anything else, we have to make fun of the media,
talk about why they're going crazy. Trying to protect Stephen Colbert.
I want to get Megan Kelly's take on the Russian hoa,
so let's bring her in. The great Megan Kelly, you
know what's weird to me is the reaction to Stephen
(10:48):
Colbert getting canceled. And you know what, Megan, I was
going to play this montage of everyone in the media
freaking out about it, but I'm not even going to
bother because I know you've seen it. Everyone's seen it.
It's a late night show. Can you explain why they're
warning the guy as if he's dying from cancer? What
did I miss here?
Speaker 6 (11:04):
I know, I know.
Speaker 9 (11:06):
It is the most absurd overreaction. It's television. You'll survive,
You'll be fine. But it really does just prove the
real reason he was there, which was not to entertain
or to amuse, but to try to take down Trump.
Just be a Republican antagonist. That's what he became, That's
what his relevance was. And in the end, they're fearful
(11:29):
that that's why he's getting fired. That's actually not exactly
why he's getting fired. That's why he failed because he
wasn't adhering to the core mission. No one wanted to
watch his attempt to be Adam Schiff every night in
the late night slot, and it didn't.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
Work out as a commercial matter.
Speaker 9 (11:46):
And so now their hero, you know, their chief antagonist
of the left, is getting a smaller platform, like I
guess a podcast or something else, and that's just not
okay with them. They're used to dominating cultural institutions and
seeing everyone roll.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
Over with it.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Megan, you are obviously a seasoned veteran of this industry.
You've been at all the major players, you know, all
the behind the scenes stuff. So can you help me
understand how that can happen? When I say that, how
can you allow your late night comedy show everyone remembers
Leno and Letterman Carson before him. How can you let
(12:22):
that comedy show turn into just a partisan show? If
for no other reason, that's bad business. Right, half the
country hate your guts, that's bad business. Even Michael Jordan
said Republicans buy shoes too. What happened?
Speaker 9 (12:36):
It was too ideologically important to them to try to
kill Trump, you know, rhetorically, when he won in sixteen,
no one thought he could do it. They were still
so shell shocked they thought, oh my god, this must
be a racist, misogynistic, xenophobic country.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
Were not who we thought we were.
Speaker 9 (12:55):
And so that's when truly, like the TVs ors, the
chief tds ors, and Stephen Colbert right at there at
the top of the list, started really turning and leaning
hard into more politics as their shows.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
And I mean I've been on Colbert.
Speaker 9 (13:09):
I've been on all these late night shows, literally every
single one of them.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
And even in the.
Speaker 9 (13:13):
Initial couple of years of Trump, Colbert was doing more politics,
but he wasn't full politics. He would still start the
show every night with a celebrity, like an A list
celebrity or two, and then he'd throw in like a
newsperson like me or a politics person maybe last. But
the morph happened over the Trump presidency and then thereafter
whence Trump ran to you know, to get the presidency again,
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where he just devoted himself entirely to trying to defeat him,
and the network brass was completely on the same page.
They're as left as he is, Jesse. They're not further
to the right judging him. They're like, go, ghost even go.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
But even understanding that obviously this is a big boy network, CBS,
you're gonna have share you're gonna have even if you
were the most left wing, filthy maoist comedy in the
world in your CEO of CBS. The bottom line still
determines your bonus, right m.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
Hm, Yes, But they didn't care.
Speaker 9 (14:13):
I mean it was for a while there they could
just bull themselves that it was, you know, just temporary
and it was important. And then by the time it
had settled into like the new reality, they were all
doing it. Even Jimmy Fallon got way more political after
Trump became president than he ever had been before.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
And Kimmel.
Speaker 9 (14:32):
Kimmel used to just be fun and funny. That's how
he and Adam Carolla got to be great friends. And
then he turned her Like they were all doing it.
It was like they were on a late seth Myers too,
a late night mission John Oliver to bring Trump down.
So by that point, were they really going to have
the only guy who'd been the worst of all of
them suddenly just go back to telling jokes.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
It was too late.
Speaker 9 (14:52):
They'd already alienated half the country. It's the same thing
with CNN when it decided.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
A couple of years ago.
Speaker 9 (14:57):
I was trying to be fair and balanced again. Yeah,
look how that worked out. It's too late. You already
kissed half your audience.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
Goodbye. They're not coming back.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Wow, it's wild how suicidal these people are. Okay, let's
change the subject, because I'm dying to get your your
honest take on the Russia hoag stuff. I say honest,
not that that's difficult for you, but I don't want
to blow smoke. I haven't been blowing smoke, you know.
I believe Barack Obama should go to prison for the
rest of his life for this. I'm also not naive,
and I don't think that's going to happen. But can
(15:29):
somebody big burn for this, Megan, because somebody really needs
to burn for this, whoever that may be. Is that
possible or is that just ridiculous wishful thinking?
Speaker 9 (15:39):
No, I've been loving your clips on this, by the way,
It's like it makes me feel better when I watch
the Jesse Kelly clips on this story.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
I don't know. I wouldn't bet on it. There is
a huge scandal here.
Speaker 9 (15:52):
It is a very real scandal, and it's actually truly shocking.
Whether they're going to be able to get somebody convicted
criminally is a different qu question. Not everything that's horrible
is a crime or within the statute of limitations. And
in President Obama's case, thanks to Trump's case, he will
be recognized as having immunity for virtually all of his
official acts, so that will likely save him. But I
(16:15):
don't know the full extent of what they've got, you know,
Tulsey's revealing everything, drip, drip, drip, and I don't know
whether I mean, I can say that the Obama immunity
is not going to help John Brennan or James Comey,
who might be helped by the statutes of limitations on
the potential crimes that they may have committed, including possibly perjury.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
I was just looking at it.
Speaker 9 (16:36):
The perjury statute of limitations federally is five years, but
you can get it told, meaning extended. It won't start
to run until later. If, for example, you can show
the person who perjured themselves was then responsible for covering
up the truth such that it was not discovered until
much later. And look, with this document that just came out,
(16:58):
this House report that was put in a vault in
Langley for the last nine years or however long it's been,
no five years, since twenty twenty, you could make a
clever argument. But I think it would require clever arguments.
It wouldn't be a straight cut route from they did
dastardly deeds to they're now getting criminally charged, never mind convicted.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Okay, well, Megan, your legal chops obviously far exceed mine,
because I'm a moron. Does Pam Bondy have those chops?
Is this something she's going to be able to do?
You know as well as I do. The type of
lawyers Clapper and Brennan and Comb, you know, the type
of lawyers they're going to get. These are not going
to be spring chickens, and they're not going to be idiots.
(17:39):
They're going to be very capable people. Do we have
the guns on our side to make this happen?
Speaker 6 (17:47):
I don't know that.
Speaker 9 (17:47):
I mean Pam Bondi wouldn't be doing it herself. She
would have some deputy over there do it, and eventually
it would get argued and appealed and go up on
appeal to the US Supreme Court.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
And we've got a great solicitor general. That guy's asked.
Speaker 9 (18:00):
He's got a very winning record in front of the
Supreme Court.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
But it depends.
Speaker 9 (18:04):
I'm just I feel like I'm firing a gun right
now with no bullets in it because I don't really
know what. They haven't even mentioned what the potential crimes
could be. All we really know is that they've referred
John Brennan, the head of the CIA under Obama and
James call Me, the head of FBI under Obama, and
then Trump, to the DOJ for possible prosecution. They've said
(18:26):
almost nothing about the Comy charges, and the Brennan charges
seem to be related to allegedly fallse statements he made
about the Steel dossier, what role it played in the
intelligence assessment which has been completely blown up this week
thanks to Tulsi as just a big pack of lies,
and what he knew about it. Beyond those two, what
we're seeing now for the first time is that Barack
Obama orchestrated it all, that he was the one who
(18:50):
took an intelligence community that was about to respond the
Russia interference really wasn't that bad. It was kind of
milk toast and changed it at his direction to oh
it was, it's huge, and it was all done to
help Trump. And today or yesterday, we learned that the
only justification they had for that latter conclusion was the
discredited Steele dossier, which they knew was but proceeded with anyway,
(19:16):
and three other sources, which, if it's possible, were even
less supported than the Steele dossier. And the latest document
dump shows that one multiple CIA agents went to John
Brennan to say.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
You can't put that in there.
Speaker 9 (19:31):
You cannot say that putin interfered to help Trump. We
don't have that, and you cannot rely on the Steel dossier.
That thing's totally not credible. And Brennan looked at him
and said one of them and said, but it has
the whiff of truth, doesn't it.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
It seems like it could be true.
Speaker 9 (19:47):
That's that's how the whole country spent years with Russia Gate.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Jesse, I mean the whiff of truth.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
What an ugly place to be, Okay, speaking of an
ugly place to be before we let you go the
Epstein stuff. It's not surprising to me. I told everybody
as soon as Trump started telling everyone to shut up
and move on and shut up and move on and
stop talking about this shoe idiot, I knew that he
was in there somewhere. They have a mess on their hands.
They over promised, they under delivered and now a portion,
(20:22):
whatever size it is, of his base. And frankly, people
who aren't in his base, they want the goods, goods
that may not even exist. How do they navigate these
rough waters from here?
Speaker 9 (20:34):
I know, I wish Trump had just released whatever documents
he could right at the beginning.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
We don't. The Epstein scandal is not about Trump.
Speaker 9 (20:44):
It is about a man who was a disgusting, perverted,
criminal predator who, along with his top emissary, Glene Maxwell,
recruited young girls fourteen and possibly younger, were awaiting more
details to come to his townhouse and to perform sex
(21:04):
acts on him. That's what the scandal's about. And the
question is was it beyond Jeffrey Epstein?
Speaker 6 (21:09):
Who is it with?
Speaker 9 (21:11):
If there were other powerful, powerful men he provided this
service to, who were they and how young like? Those
are very relevant questions. That's what we want to know.
But the left has decided that it's all about Trump.
Trump gave them a window by being so cagey about
releasing the documents, and now the Wall Street Journal, you
know he's doing a drip or a drip of Here's
(21:31):
Trump's saucy letter to Epstein on his birthday. Trump denies
it's him, and it's very weird, but it sounds like
something like an aid would have written, and with oh,
he's in the Epstein files, with which Elon Musk already
told us. I mean, everybody knows that the two men
had a friendship for fifteen years.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
What does in the Epstein files mean?
Speaker 9 (21:49):
Is he in there as having had a sexual interlude
with an underage girl? You don't think Joe Biden's DJ
would have released that, Joe Biden's FBI.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
Or Jim Comey point. There's no way.
Speaker 9 (22:02):
He's in there in any meaningful way. I just don't
believe it. But I can't say the same about rich
donors connected friends of his and possibly of those on
the left. Dad, I'd really like to see, and I
don't think we will.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
The great Megan Kelly. Everybody go catch her show, subscribe
to her YouTube. It's awesome. By the way, Megan, I
love you. You're the best. All right. Miranda Devine is
going to join us next. We're going to comb through
what she knows about this. She's such a great reporter,
she has great sources. Let's figure out the who's who
and what's what. Let's all get smarter. Before we do that,
(22:39):
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Speaker 4 (23:56):
Se Gabbert is simply an opportunist in this play.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Right.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Her star is falling. Her analysis was thrown out the
window on Iran. She embarrassed herself with that that somewhat
bizarre video about nuclear weapons in Japan, and so she's
using this as an opportunity to get herself back into
favor with the White House.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
That's my personal assessment.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
But you know, this is uh, this seems to be
kind of the state of the union, what we're in
right now.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Well, that's very interesting, not for what I just heard,
but for what I didn't. Here joining me now the
great Miranda Divine, host of the pod Force one podcast
and of course fantastic columnists with an Australian accent. Miranda,
I didn't hear a denial. I heard some personal smears,
but I didn't hear a denial. Did you hear denial?
Speaker 10 (24:51):
No?
Speaker 3 (24:52):
I didn't. And I think that these Russia hoaxes are
actually quite being quite careful now. James Clapper is just
admitted that he's lawyered up. I heard that John Brennan
was looking to go and live in Ireland. I don't
know if that's true, but I've got a tip from somebody.
(25:12):
So I think that they are worried because they've you know,
it's a very different beast to be in the crosshairs
of federal prosecutors compared to congressional investigators. I think a
lot of conservatives are pretty cynical now. They think that
nothing will ever happen to these people. It's been a
long time. I mean they started this hoaxing in twenty sixteen,
(25:36):
maybe even before, and I guess you know, people have
given up. It's almost a decade. But I think that
there's enough evidence now. And Telsey Gabbat has been incredible
the way they used AI to scour the archives and
put together this quite damning dossier of information, or actually
(26:00):
several of them. Now we've got the CIA. John Ratcliffe
has done a great job. He kicked it off, and
now Telsey Gabbett has come in with a couple more tranches.
So it's all what we knew happened, but we really
couldn't prove it, at least not enough in a court
of law. But it looks like she's piecing together a
(26:22):
pretty good case for the prosecution.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Miranda, Can you dive for a couple of minutes into
the role of DNI. You know, Brannan is understood CIA director,
call me, he's understood FBI director. But just the very
role of DNI itself has a lot of people confused.
What do they actually do? Because Clapper from my sources
tell me, if someone's going to burn they could easily
(26:47):
be Clapper for all this. What is the DNI What
they do to Trump?
Speaker 3 (26:53):
So the dn I is the Director of National Intelligence,
and it's kind of a nothing job and an every
thing job. Supposed to be coordinating all the now eighteen
intelligence agencies. Back then when the Russia hoax was launched,
there were seventeen and it's basically to make sure that
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there aren't any sort of gaps where information gets lost
between the agencies like happened in before nine to eleven.
So it's more of a coordinating role. You can do
nothing or you can use that immense power because you
sit on top of all those agencies effectively, you know,
the CIA, the FBI, the rest of them, DSA, they
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all have to at least answer to you somewhat. So
she has the ability to ask for information to go,
you know, demand information from all these agency heads and
dig into their archives and call on their expertise. And
that's what she does. She's also doing a few other things.
She's i think taking a little bit of the power
(28:00):
away from the CIA. Certainly when it comes to the
Presidential Daily Brief, it's a job that she's changing the
job description on the go as she sees fit, and
she's been given a lot of authority by the President
to do that. She's definitely in his trust circle. And
(28:23):
I think she gets on very well, certainly with John
Ratcliffe anyway, because they've been working hand in glove.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Ratcliffe's not on Fox News every other minute, so we
don't talk about him enough, but he's been doing a
pretty dag one good job with the CIA, hasn't he.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Yes, And you really wouldn't expect him to talk much
as you know, the head of the CIA, you would
expect that to be a kind of a voiceless role,
just acting quietly in the shadows. But he's obviously made
it his goal very early on to go and do
(29:02):
a review of that pivotal intelligence community assessment that Telsey
Gabbett has just now told us that was fake, ordered
by Obama overrode the actual intelligence community a view that
Russia had not intervened in the twenty sixteen election to
(29:23):
favor Donald Trump. That was a lie, but that's what
Obama wanted Clapper and Comy and particularly Brennan, who drove
this fake intelligence assessment.
Speaker 10 (29:36):
To do.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
And so what John Ratcliffe showed us a couple of
weeks ago was he had his the professionals, the career professionals,
without fear or favor, to go through their archives, their assets,
intelligence assets, and dig into how that Pivotal Ica from
January twenty seventeen that said that Russia was into in
(30:01):
the election on Trump's behalf, and that also included in
it the totally bogus Steele dossier to find out how
that happened. And what John Ratcliffe's career professionals found was
that John Brennan drove it, that he hand picked the analysts,
and when a few of those analysts actually pushed back
(30:22):
on him and said, look, this Steele dossier, we cannot
include it because it's such a joke. It's so ridiculous,
it's totally made up, it's not verified, its facycle on
its face. If we include it, that will discredit the
entire assessment. He insisted John Brennan that it be included,
(30:42):
and so previously we were told that it was just
included as an annex, but no, it was included in
the actual body of the report. So it really colored
and discredited that report. And there were several other very
suspect things about that assessment, including the fact it was
(31:04):
rushed through. Why was it rushed through? Why did Barack
Obama insist that it be finished before the transition, before
Donald Trump came into office on January twenty of twenty seventeen.
Well because they wanted to have an assessment that said
what they wanted it to say, not the truth that
they immediately leaked before it was even finished, to know
(31:27):
their pet media mouthpieces in Washington Post, NBC, New York Times, etc.
And that set the stage for Donald Trump to enter
office as a marked man, as somebody seen as illegitimate,
as having been voted into office only because Vladimir Putin
(31:48):
tilted the scales in his favor. That really sabotaged his presidency.
And as Chelsey Gabbett called it yesterday, it was a
year's long coup by Barack Obama against his successor.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Gosh, what an ugly, freaking tangled web we've all right, Miranda,
I cannot let you go before asking about New York,
a city I dearly love. I believe it's a city
you call home. And to say I'm a little bit
afraid of the upcoming election will be to put it
quite mildly. Is this young Kami freak gonna win.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Well, I mean, all the smart money is on his
winning because I mean, look, every single New York mayoral
election since I've been here has been won by the
narrowest of margins, like turnouts of you know, ten to
fifteen percent. So New Yorkers are just, I don't know, apathetic.
(32:49):
I don't know why we watch the city fall down
around us from the time of Deblasio, after the great
reigns of Giuliani and Bloom, I think everyone just rested
on their laurels and thought that this was the safest
big city and everything would run itself. But Deblasio showed
us in his two terms what a disaster he could be.
(33:11):
And then Eric Adams has been an improvement, but that's
from a very low base. He's no Juliani, so but anyway, look,
he's a hell of a lot better than MANDANEI would be.
But he's very unpopular. I think that the what I
think was a stitched up lawfare against him by the
Biden administration has really damaged him. Plus the fact he
(33:33):
hasn't achieved all that much, plus the fact that New
York's a sanctuary city and these illegal aliens just infest
the place and sucking the Taxtra pair. Dry still ensconced
in these four star hotels around Midtown, and he seems
powerless to do much about it. So that's a problem.
(33:56):
And then you have Mamdani disaster, but you also have
who's splitting the independent vote with Adams. And then you
have Curtis Sleiewa who's run before for the Republicans, doesn't
really seem to be mounting.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Look the poles.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
To be fair, I don't want to be unfair to him.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
The Poles show him climbing, and he is working hard.
I'm just not sure if he is in a bit
of a stale offering, but I'm going to give him
the benefit of the doubt. But still with the three
of them as the non Mandani vote splitting what little
vote there is, that bother's turning out, it just looks
like Mandani Will Mendamia can pronounce his name properly, it
(34:39):
will just swoop in and be the accidental mayor yet again,
like Deblasio.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Oh God, have mercy, Miranda, thank you. I appreciate it.
All right, Joe Allen's going to join us and talk
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Speaker 11 (36:19):
America is the country that started the AI race, and
as President of the United States, I'm here today to
declare that America is going to win it. The reason
the last administration was so eager to regulate and restrict
AI was so they could limit this technology to just
a few large companies, allowing them to centralize it, censor it,
(36:43):
control it, weaponize it. This is the exact opposite of
my approach. The American people do not want woke Marxist
lunacy in the AI models, and neither do other countries.
From now on, the US government will deal only with
AI that pursues truth, fairness, and strict impartiality. We're not
going to go through the craziness that we've gone through
(37:05):
for the last four years.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Sure sounds good. We have to ask Joe about it,
because I don't know what the heck he's talking about.
Joining me now, Joe Allen, author of the wonderful book
prophetic Book Dark Eon. Okay, Joe, First of all, what
did the Biden administration do or try to do? What
did Trump undo? Explain this to me like I'm five.
Speaker 10 (37:32):
Well, Jesse and Biden administration, you had to push very
similar to what you would see say out of Davos,
the World Economic Forum, or maybe more un affiliated organizations.
They sought basically to harness the power of AI, but
also to steer it in a very liberal direction. And
(37:56):
the most powerful models were being produced and are still
being produce used by Google, by Open AI, by Anthropic
and all of those companies, like most companies in Silicon Valley,
have very much a kind of left leaning tendency, and
so the AIS ended up being you know, quote unquote
(38:16):
woke that you remember the cartoonish outputs from Google's Gemini
where people were asking for the founding fathers or people
were asking for vikings. Then it would bring like this
racially diverse cast. It was just like a cartoon that
was mentioned in the executive orders signed as Trump announced
(38:37):
the AI action plan from the White House. But that
is what he's talking about when he's talking about combating
woke AI. And also worth mentioning that collusion between the
Biden administration or that deal that seemed to be inevitable,
should Harris have gotten in between the big companies like Microsoft,
(38:58):
like Google and open A, I think that that would
have been the outcome. So what's happening under the Trump administration,
for better or worse, I am not personally optimistic, is
that he's extended the kind of privileges of government endorsement
and contracts more towards startups and companies like Pallenteer founded
(39:21):
by Peter Thiel now run by Alex Karp, or like
the suite of AI companies that Mark and Dreesen's investment
house in drees and Horowitz are promoting.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Okay, why aren't you optimistic?
Speaker 10 (39:40):
It just depends on what kind of life you want
to live. Do you want to live a life that
it's dominated by devices? Do you want to live a
life in which a significant proportion or maybe even the
majority of your population looks to artificial intelligence for what
is and isn't real and you know going out for there?
(40:00):
Do you want to move into a future like Elon
Musk is envisioning, or like most of the guys at
these frontier AI labs are talking about, in which humans
basically merge with the machines in various ways, whether it
be prosthetics and brain interfaces, or whether it be something
(40:21):
like wearable biometric devices and exoskeletons. In any case, the
sci fi future, I oftentimes say, there's no real conspiracy
other than the broad conspiracy to make science fiction real life,
and it's not a world I want to live in.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Okay, can you tell me. You know you see these
Internet rumors about AI turning on people, potentially turning on
people doing things to protect itself. Is that Internet stupid
rumor fodder or are we actually seeing this? And I asked,
because I know the military is starting to implement this stuff.
Speaker 10 (41:02):
Yes, it is happening. Most of those stories. For instance,
the widely publicized story that came out of an anthropic
lab about an engineer who was blackmailed with evidence that
he had a mistress. Right, he was going to shut
the machine down and the machine threatened to blackmail him.
(41:24):
That did occur, but it was it occurred in Anthropics
internal labs, so they were testing it and it started
doing that. It also started doing all these other things
that were very strange and unusual. It began, I think,
speaking in Sanskrit and talking about universal bliss and cosmic
(41:44):
consciousness something to that effect. And so, but these things
are happening, And the point of all of these tests,
and the lesson to be learned is that by their
very nature, AI systems make their own decisions. They they
are kind of de facto out of control. You can
put guardrails on them, you can train them in ways
(42:06):
that keep them more under control. But if an AI
system is worth its salt, it's going to have a
degree of freedom, is going to have independence. And so
that's how you end up in these sorts of situations.
And the fear is that if you unleash a super
powerful AI, it will make all sorts of decisions, many
of which don't have human interests as the core agenda.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Can't you make sure it does well?
Speaker 10 (42:34):
This is one of those things we're gonna have to
find out. So a big part of the AI Action
Plan that was unveiled yesterday, the third pillar, is about
the US leading and diplomacy and security on AI. And
rather than starting at the fountain head right, rather than
going upstream and regulating things that you know, saying no,
(42:56):
we will not create these systems that are of such
power and capable building, No, you cannot deploy these systems
on students and in corporations and infuse them into the
government and all these things. Instead of saying no, basically
the the Trump administration is saying, yes, we are going
to facilitate and do all of those things, and then
(43:17):
if problems emerge, we will begin to put more regulatory
measures in place, so they are planning on keeping it
under control, but they're going to play with it first.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Joe, don't read his book Dark Eon. It's freaking eerie,
but it is. It's true. It's a great book. Joe,
thank you, brother. I appreciate you as always. I feel
old every time we talk about this AI stuff. It
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(44:48):
let's lighten the mood. And now that we just went
over dark scary AI, I thought we should do a
little throwback video. This is from the year nineteen ninety four.
Listen to how people were talking about technology.
Speaker 6 (45:01):
What is Internet?
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Anyway?
Speaker 7 (45:04):
Internet is that massive computer network, the one that's becoming
really big.
Speaker 6 (45:09):
Now, what do you mean that's big?
Speaker 9 (45:12):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (45:12):
How does one?
Speaker 1 (45:13):
What do you write to it? Like mail?
Speaker 6 (45:14):
No, a lot of people use it and communicate. I
guess they can communicate with NBC writers and producers. Alison,
can you explain what Internet is?
Speaker 1 (45:21):
No, she can't say anything.
Speaker 7 (45:22):
In ten seconds or left, Alison will be in the
studio shortly.
Speaker 6 (45:27):
What does it mean?
Speaker 12 (45:28):
It's a giant computer network made up made up of started.
Speaker 6 (45:31):
From Oh, I thought you're gonna tell us what this
was billboards.
Speaker 12 (45:35):
It's not, it's it's it's a computer billboard. But it's one.
It's it's several universities.
Speaker 9 (45:40):
And everything all join together and others can access it,
and it's getting came in.
Speaker 6 (45:46):
Really handy during the quake.
Speaker 7 (45:47):
A lot of people That's how they were communicating out
to tell family and loved ones they were okay because
all the phone lines were down. I was telling Katie,
but you don't need you don't need that.
Speaker 6 (45:54):
You don't need a phone line to operate.
Speaker 10 (45:56):
No.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
No, sounds like me talking about AI. Anyway, I see
them
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