July 31, 2025 • 37 mins
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This is a Jesse Kelly Show.
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The Jesse Kelly Show. Let's have some fun on a
Thursday and.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
All we are going to have so much fun tonight
on a Thursday, and ask doctor Jesse Thursday. Dome has
a book coming out. We'll make fun of her, but
of course we have to make it about you and
your questions. And man, I hope you like history, because
we're apparently gonna do a lot of that tonight. We're
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also going to talk about single subject bills, illegal immigration.
We're gonna talk about people believing the mainstream media, also
believing mainstream science, and it's fascinating questions from you. It's
going to be a rip roaring good time. So let
us begin now. I want to begin with actually kind
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of a different one that I just thought was so cool.
And I got a bunch of these emails, different forms
of them. I can't read them all. I'm not going
to read them all. It would be too boring, but
there just know that I love them all. Personal connections
to World War Two and the Kama Kazi stuff that
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we talked about earlier in the week. Don't worry, I'll
get to politics in a minute. We're going to talk
about single subject bills and things like that. So it's
going to be up and down in history and modern
and all kinds of things tonight on the Jesse Kelly Show.
But I got a bunch of these, and so many
of these, man, it's just amazing. The subject to this
one is Kama Kazi show USS Franklin. The USS Franklin,
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for those who don't know, was a World War II
aircraft carrier suffered horribly a Kami Kazi attack. I hope
I don't mess this up. I believe over three hundred
men on that ship died in one Kami Kazi attack.
It was terrible, fire's bombs, it was awful. They had
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a ceremony to bury the men at sea the next day,
and I think it was eight hours long if I
remember right. It was terrible. Anyway, this guy says, Jesse,
the Kama Kazi history lesson was off awesome. I just
finished it while catching up on your show. I wanted
to share a cool story of my grandfather, Benjamin Marion Ricks.
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He was on the USS Franklin when it was attacked
by Japanese Kama Kazis. After sustaining catastrophic damage and massive casualties.
It became known as the Ship that would not Die.
They defended multiple waves of kama Kazis before the USS
Pittsburgh came to rescue and tugged it into per They
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tugged ships back to Pearl Harbor, back to San Francisco,
back to several places in America for repairs when they
couldn't repair them at sea. By the way, those who
didn't abandon ship were given the prestigious award of being
in the seven zero four Club, which Ben was part of.
I can't put all the details in this email because
you will just lose attention and throw my email in
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the trash. That's not true, all right, it's true. After
my grandfather was discharged and the war was over, Ben
got dropped off in Brooklyn, New York, where he promptly
borrowed his buddy's motorcycle to pick up my at the
time sixteen year old grandmother and crashed on the way
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to their first date. He was thrown in jail for
being well dating a sixteen year old. He gets out
of jail visits her at the hospital. They fell in love,
got married, had my mom. He and Peg lived until
their nineties. They just don't make them like they used to. Man,
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John is this guy's name. Man, that's the kind of
stuff you send me. When we do these kinds of histories,
whether it's Vietnam or Korea or World War two, or
it becomes alive and special, and I love it, blesses
us beyond end here the Jesse Kelly Show. When we
can bless you in that way, and it's awesome. Now
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let's move on. We'll do some ugly politics stuff. But
I'm warning you, apparently history was on your mind. There's
a lot of that coming tonight, a lot of it
coming tonight, and I'm just in that kind of a mood. Plus,
there's no gigantic world ending story we have to tackle.
So maybe we'll just screw off for a while tonight.
But let's do get to some, honestly some important items
like this one, Dear Jesse. While we control everything, why
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do Republicans not bring forth single item bills like requiring
voter id or including males from fea male sports. His
name is Gil. It's a very good question. You could
ask the question about a lot of things. We have
the House, we have the Senate, we have the presidency.
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A single item bills seems so simple, doesn't It's it's
very simple. It's there's no negative to it. Why why
not bring that forward? So you know how we talked yesterday.
Maybe you remember we were talking about the communist politicians,
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Democrat politicians, and I was warning about the real Admiral
Buddhaje Edge, how he's a true believer. He's got a
real hate, a hatred, a darkness inside of him, a
real hatred for America. But then I brought up Chuck Schumer.
I mean Chuck Schumer is I called him a lizard
person yesterday, and I really do mean that. You can
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hear it when he talks. Chuck Schum doesn't believe in anything, nothing,
not right wing, not left wing. He's been a soulless
politician for so long he can't even really fake it
that well, whenever he's out there giving a speech about something,
he just he's going to say and do whatever it
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is that keeps him in power. All right, you probably
remember we talked about that yesterday. Well, here's here's the
bad side of that, the truth of that. You don't
think it's only Democrats who do that, right, how many
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elected Republicans at every level in this country. Do you
think are only committed to staying in power. It's a lot,
it's not all of them. I'm not saying that they're
all crooks, they're all trash. That's not true at all.
I know a lot of these people personally. Yes, there
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are a lot of them who are cooks in trash.
There are a lot of really good people. But there
are a lot of people who are simply a Republican
version of Chuck Schumer. And they'll tell you the things
you want to hear when they think they can manipulate you,
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but they're not in it for America or a secure border,
or low taxes or cutting spending or pro life or
whatever your issue is or my issue is. They're lizard people,
just like Chuck Schumer is, who will say whatever they
have to say on camera, but when it comes down
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to brass tax they're not going to actually do anything.
Uh Do you remember I actually kind of slips my
mind what the issue was in Wyoming. I believe it
was a boys and girls sports issue. Wyoming. You may
be not familiar with Wyoming. I am, because I grew
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up in Montana. We'd go down to Wyoming. We'd go
anelope hunting. Wyoming is a beautiful, really really cool state,
but there's like nobody there. It's enormous, and I think
the population is something like five hundred thousand people. It's
just there's just nobody there. The weather's brutal, it's not
many people can can survive that kind of weather want
to survive that kind of weather. But Wyoming is unbelievably red.
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I'm sure they only have I haven't looked in a while.
One maximum two congressional seats. I bet you it's one.
I guarantee it's Republican. But it's more than that. If
you break the state down by their state seats, state House,
state Senate, I'm not sure there is an elected Democrat
in a state wide seat in Wyoming. It's just red.
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And if there is, there's one or two, it's just red,
blood red. And yet they're shooting down obvious Republican bills.
How does that happen? Why does that happen? Well, here's
how in Wyant happens. There are democrats in Wyoming. There
are power hungry lizard people in Wyoming, and those lizard
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people they understand you can't run for office as a
Democrat and they understand they're okay, so they'll fake being Republicans.
I'm a Republican, God and Country. But they also understand
they have to learn to speak the language of the Republican.
And so what do they do. They go, they raise
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money and then on their campaign commercials or on the
little mailers they send you. If you're in Wyoming, you
get a card and it's you know, Bob Western and
he's talking about how much he loves guns, and he's
gonna be pro life in load taxes. Now does he
believe any of those things. Probably not, but he understands.
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If you you want power, if you want to go
to the state House, you want to go to the
state center in Wyoming, you have to pretend. You have
to lie or you're never getting elected. Now let's go
to the federal government. If that's a problem in a
God and Country blood red state like Wyoming, how much
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do you think it's a problem in the United States
House of Representatives? How many Republicans sitting in the House
right now do you think truly share your values versus
how many know they have to pretend come election sees.
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We'll expand on that a little bit more here in
a moment I want to bring something up again, and
I want to bring this up because I had a
conversation with ab about this earlier today about your personal protection,
taking ownership of your personal protection, and people have asked
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me before, do you travel with your gun? Your gun?
Do you travel with your gun? Look if you see
me anywhere in Texas, I have a gun on me
unless I've gone through a metal detector. I have my
concealed carry on me. But I also have my burn
A launcher on me at all times. The gun when
I travel, I have to leave it at home. I do.
I'm going to Boston, I'm going to New York. I'm
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going to I'm not going to prison, So I have
to leave the gun at home. Do you know what
comes with me all fifty states my burn a launcher,
no matter what, and I'm legal all fifty states. I
don't need a permit, I don't need a background check.
I don't have to stress about getting in a situation
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where I get frist or god forbid, have to use
it and then I go to prison for defending myself.
It comes with me everywhere. I check it in my bag,
and OB does the same. It's non lethal, get one
for your wife, Get one for yourself, your husband, your dad,
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your daughter. I know summer's coming to an end. You're
sending your baby girl off to school with nothing to
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It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful Thursday,
and ask doctor Jesse Thursday because I won't be here tomorrow,
but don't worry. I'll be back on Monday. Medal of honor. Monday.
I am gonna have to start cooking up another history
show for you at some point. I haven't decided what
I'm gonna do it on. You don't. It's not coming
next week, so don't be getting your hopes up. We
gotta do some more politics and I'll get to some
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history tonight. Don't worry. But uh, I wanted to continue
what we were talking about there. Guy sends an email
in and says, Hey, why don't we have single item
bills right now? We have Republicans in the House, we
have Republicans in the Senate. We have a Republican president.
Voter ID. That's a simple one. Get it out there.
It's simple, it's easy. We'd have the votes. So I've
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shared this story with you before, but I'm gonna share
it again. I ran for Congress twice, as you well know,
in Arizona. I was the Republican nominee twice. In Arizona
went under lose the general, but I was the Republican
nominee twice. My first time, I experienced a lot of
things that really I don't I won't say shook me,
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but it definitely made me sit up in my chair
and notice how things really worked in this country. When
you're running for Congress, if especially once you become the nominee,
you will, if you ever do this, you will have
to go back to Washington, D C. For money. That's
what you're going back there for. You go back and
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try to get campaign donations from other congressmen and from
all kinds of various political packs who may align with you. Now,
let me pause on this for a quick second and
clarify something. Not all political packs are bad. There are
all kinds of wonderful ones out there that believe what
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you believe, and they're pushing for those things, and they'll
find candidates who will who they can back even in
a primary sometimes, who will push for the things they want.
I'll tell you one right now, Citizens United. Citizens United.
Everyone knows the name because of the Supreme Court case.
But Citizens United didn't wait until I won the general
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election to send me a check. They wanted more hardcore
people in Congress. They get involved in a primary, they said, no, no,
we need Jesse to win against the establishment guy. They
threw in anyway, set him out aside, you go back
to raise money. One night, I'm out with a couple congressmen,
just friends of mine, and I'm out and we go
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to dinner and there was a pack that I'm not
going to name, and it was one of these packs
that represents an industry you would know, and probably an
industry you would like to be honest with you, but
an industry you would know. Now, this industry gets a
lot of federal money, a lot of federal money. Probably
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shouldn't a lot of it, probably not justified, but they
get a lot of federal money. They sat down to
dinner with me, they were part of this group. And
I'm back there making my pitch. Hey, I'm Jesse Kelly,
and I'm gonna save America and all the naive things
you believe when you're young and then running for all
that stuff. I'm gonna save the country by myself. So
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I make my pitch. But they weren't really interested in that.
They didn't care about my position on really any issue,
any issue none. They didn't ask to be a specific thing.
The only thing they wanted to know was, Hey, you're
gonna keep the money flowing. Right, if a bill comes
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up and it means money for us, you're gonna vote
yes on that, right. And of course I didn't tell
them that told him no, That's how I was like
that just didn't care but that answer, and they made
it obvious. It was not like it was subtle. That
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answer was going to determine whether they use their vast
quantity of money to back my candidacy or not. They
chose to abstain because of the answer I gave them.
Now that that's one example of I know, it's not
shocking to you of how it works, how many Republicans
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in the House of Representatives, the United States Senate, how
many of them want to keep getting re elected. Pretty
much all of them. How do you get reelected? Well,
you have to raise money. It's really, really, really easy
to give in the temptation. We're all susceptible to it,
aren't you. I know, I am, I'm a human being.
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You want to get reelected, you want to go back
to the Senate, you want to go back to the
House for another two years. Well, you know what doesn't
get you there? Single subject bills that help the American people.
You know what does get you reelected? A large, large
campaign war chest where you can go to the people
of Wyoming, the people of South Carolina, and you can
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run an ad on TV when they're watching Fox News
at night telling them how much you stand with Trump
in the Second Amendment and I love God. It takes
a lot of money to run that ad. How do
you get that money? You get that money by stealing
from the American people. And you steal from the American people.
Not with single subject bills that help the American people.
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You steal from the American people by loading a bunch
of crap into good bills forcing Congress to vote yes
on it. The money flows to them. Your money flows
to them, They in turn right you a check for it,
and everybody wins, except of course, the American people. That's
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how it works. It's ugly. I hate it, you hate it,
but that's how it works. Let's do a little history,
just a little history. Then we'll get back to we
legals and things like that. Before we do that, let's
take care of ourselves first. We can't save the country
unless we take care of ourselves first. You need to
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be feeling good. You need to have energy, You need
to be in a good mood. You need to be
ready to go at the end of the day, not
out of gas when you get home, plopping down on
the couch. I don't want to make dinner. I don't
want to go for a walk. What don't you do now?
Because you're out of energy. You don't even realize it's
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because your body's full of synthetic estrogens, estrogens from the plastics.
It's in the water we shower in it. We've lost
fifty percent of our testosterone in the last fifty years,
and now we're out of gas and depressed all the time,
and we can't figure out why. Let chalk change your
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your leisure or leisure Chris, don't shake your head anyway.
I'm sorry I have to play this before we get
back to the questions. Dome Today made a huge announcement.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Just over a year ago. I launched my campaign for
President of the United States, one hundred and seven days
traveling the country fighting for our future, the shortest presidential
campaign in modern history. It was intense, high stakes, and
deeply personal for me and for so many of you.
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Since leaving office, I've spent a lot of time reflecting
on those days, talking with my team, my family, my friends,
and my thoughts together and ask.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
No she totally sounds a little soft. Absolutely, Chris.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Since writing a journal that is this book One hundred
and seven Days with candor and reflection, I've written a
behind the scenes account of that journey. In writing this book,
one truth kept coming back to me.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Our soundboards still a little messed up. I really missed
my fart sound. I was going to finish that, what Chris,
I was going to do, I was going to all right,
So before we get back to the questions, let's do
another little kind of behind the scenes look at politics.
Something I've discovered from working in politics and doing radio
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and TV, and and then I wrote a book, The
Anti Communist Manifesto, available at Jesse kellybook dot com. What
Chris anyway? Uh? Politics, politicians, they've discovered the ultimate way
to to get rich. They write a book. They write
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a book. Nobody's interested in. How many people are going
to buy domes one hundred and seven Days book, even democrats?
How many people Kamala Harris his own family, They don't
want to read her stupid book that somebody ghost wrote
for her. That no one cares about this, but she'll
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make millions. It happens all the time, these Democrats come
out with these books and they make millions. Now, remember
when we discussed a system membership card. You know what
the system is. We talk about it all the time.
All the institutions supposed to be separate, now they all
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now that they're all conquered by communists, they work together,
speak with one voy's one purpose. You got all that,
and we talk about a system membership card, essentially a
proving to be a loyal member of the Communist party.
If you are loyal to the system, there are generous rewards.
It's how so many people fall victim to it. So
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many people get sucked in by it. It pays big
money to be loyal to the system. We're all making
fun of Stephen Colbert because his show got canceled. His
show was losing forty million dollars a year. If you
lost your boss forty dollars a year, you would get fired.
Stephen Colbert was making what was he making, Chris something
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like ten million? I think he was making ten million,
if not more a year. He will retire hit the
rest of his life will be mansions in private jets.
For a show that lost forty million dollars a year.
How could that go on? As long as it did.
He was a loyal member of the system. How much
Chris fifteen mil a year professional quarterback money? Well not anymore,
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but used to be professional quarterback money. That's because he
was low. Now for politicians, here's how it works. They
write a book no one cares about. Michelle Obama did this,
Dome did it? They all do it. They write a
book no one cares about. No one's buying it, no
one's reading it. So how does the money come flowing in? Well,
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the book publisher will give you an advance based on
anticipated sales, the size of your platform in advanced Look,
I got one for mine, I believe me. It was
not Michelle Obama's, but I got one for mine. You
get an advance. Hey, you have this kind of a following,
you have a radio show, you have a famous this,
you have whatever, This is what we think your book
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will sell. Let us write you a large check and
they divvy it out by you know, published date, the
date you finished writing it to But let us write
you a large check for it. You cash the money,
publish the book, go on a little book tour. Okay,
why would Dome get a I haven't seen it yet.
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I actually don't know the number, but I promise you
the number is north of a million dollars. Why would
don't We'll just call it a million. It'll be north
of that. Why would Dome get a million dollars from
any book publisher? Do they want to lose money? Well, no,
it's not that. You know, we talk about the system
membership card. Well, there is a large, large quantity of
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cash by a lot of its taxpayer money through nonprofits
in these NGOs, some of its communist billionaires, the George
Soros types, and many others. He's just the name. You
would know. There's a huge amount of communist money flowing
through our system. How it works is you find yourself
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a communist group who will purchase fifty thousand, one hundred
thousand copies of your book. Not only does that put
you on the bestseller list, but the publisher may back
all the money they just gave you for an advance.
So it's one of those things where everyone wins if
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you're a loyal member of the system, if your system
membership card is up to date. Dome writes a book
one hundred and seven days, no one gives it crap,
but it will sell a ton, and when the numbers
come out of how many had sold, you'll look at
the numbers and you'll say, are you kidding me? Fifty
thousand people bought this crappy book. No one wants to
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read that. Fifty thousand books are sitting in a cardboard
box at Communist Inc. The NGO who purchased fifty thousand copies,
probably in a roundabout way with taxpayer funds, maybe with
George Soros money. The publisher got their money back, Dome
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got paid, she got money in the bank, and everyone wins.
And this is how all communist systems have always operated.
Communist systems operate by rewarding people who were loyal to
the system. It's always worked that way and always will.
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In East Germany, the Soviet Union, China, Cambodia, whatever, everyone
wasn't starving. Oh yeah, millions and millions of people were
tortured and killed and starved, but not loyal members to
the party. If you were loyal to the party, You've
got a great car, you got a great job, you
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got benefits you need, healthcare, will fly you somewhere. No
big stake night tonight sounds good boys? Oh what's that?
Another ten million peasants died last month, they should have
gotten their loyalty card. That's how it's always worked, and
that's how it works with the communist book network. It
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does not work that way. On the right, the right.
You have to sell books. This is the bottom line. You
have to sell books. There really aren't at least not
that I'm aware of. I'm sure maybe there's one or
two out there. There's not a big organization that will
come swoop in and buy up, you know, ten thousand copies,
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one hundred thousand copies of your book and make you
a bunch of cheddar. That doesn't really exist. On the right,
we don't have that kind of patronage network. But the
communists in this country. Do you want to know how
you know Bernie Sanders has three homes? How Joe Biden's
going to make a bunch of money Dome Michelle Obama.
That's how it works. You have a ghost writer, You
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pay him fifty grand, he writes your book for you,
pretty clean, pretty easy. You're done. Your rich publisher made money.
You made money. Some billionaires out what one hundred grand?
He didn't even know it existed. He's got one hundred
grand in his sofa and everyone wins. Sorry, I'm went
off on a political tame. Now we'll go back and
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do some more. Asked doctor Jesse, questions, is what is
a historical thing that kind of disillusioned me? Great email.
We'll talk about that in a moment. Before we talk
about that, we did get an email asking asking me
to do a history episode on the guys behind enemy
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lines in Vietnam. Those are the macv SG guys. Chris,
do you have that date the date we did that.
I'll get it for you when we come back. Now,
it's fine, I'll get it for you when we come back.
I did one of those already. I'm not going to
do another one. It's known as mac V SOG. Those
were the guys who Llaos Cambodia behind enemy lines, and honestly,
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most of them died. It's one of the things about
mac v SAG. Their legends to this day they always
will be and the majority of them didn't make it.
You don't live when you go behind enemy lines. That
happens in the movies. You know. The CEO of Pure
Talk did two tours with MacFee Sogh. I just so
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admire it. Man the cell phone company that saves you money,
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you Chris. By the way, that episode November thirteenth. November
thirteenth of twenty twenty three, we did a mac V
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It is.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
It's the Jesse Kelly Show on a fantastic Thursday. I
feel like I got too dark. I was talking about
ugly political things. I don't like it. I'm I'm in
a great mood. I don't like it. Let's do some
do some other stuff. Hey, Jesse, I'm a big history
guy like you. I really appreciate the book references you
give out. Sometimes though I'm disappointed when I learned about
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the reality of stuff. I read a book called Black Flags,
Blue Waters on the Golden Age of piracy, and it
turns out being a pirate kind of sucked. It didn't
last very long, and you probably died. What's the most
disillusioning historical thing you've learned, Because let's focus on the
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pirate thing for a moment. There is something known as
the Golden Age of piracy. Maybe you've heard of this before.
The Golden Age of piracy. He just mentioned it in
the email. It's it's like a year. I know. Look, hey,
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I watched Pirates of the Caribbean too. I have kids too. Surely,
surely they're having a good time. They're drinking some room,
they're singing and dancing some funny lines. It didn't last
very long. It didn't last very long at all. It
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didn't last very long because the pirates in the Golden
Age of piracy, they were stealing from large powerful empires
with large, powerful navies. And large powerful empires with armies
and navies do not allow you to take their goods.
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They will kill you if you do so. Then now
and always. The friggin' Romans did this. Actually, Pompy Magnus
I brought up Pompy Magnus last night. One of his
big claims to fame was there were a bunch of
pirates that up in a Mediterranean and they were pillaging
some Roman stuff. Ooh yeah, they all died. Poppy Magnets
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just marched down there and murdered every single one of them.
It didn't last very long. And as far as it,
how bad it sucked, I'm gonna expand this beyond piracy.
I'm a dude, And because I'm a dude, I am
fascinated with sailing. Old sailing ships. Not modern stuff like
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that that doesn't interest me at all, but old sailing ships,
Christopher Columbus, Sir Francis Drake, you name it, I am
fascinated by it. Warships, exploration, Magellan, all of it. I'm
fascinated by it. That's just I don't know. There's something
about the adventure of it, the danger of it. I'm
fascinated by it. Keep in mind that was a life
of living hell that many of those guys many I
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don't know that I would say majority, because I don't
have numbers on that. They were outlaws. They were out casts.
They were people who didn't have other options. Not only
was there horrible danger, mainly from the weather. The food
was beyond putrid. Remember this is pre refrigeration. The water
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had to be in buckets. Imagine a hot bucket of
water in the bottom of a ship being your only
source of fresh water. The bathroom situation, the discipline on
the ships had to be unbelievably rigid because of the
type of people. We're not even just talking about pirate ships,
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because of the type of people who would have to
work on the ships. You fill up a ship with
a bunch of convicts or guys kind of from the
rough side of the tracks. And I'm not insulting you
if you're from the rough side of the tracks, but
you're going to have to do terrible things to keep
people in mind. You're gonna have to put fear in them.
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It would be awful to have been on an old
sailing ship, absolutely awful. And then when you get wherever
you're going, it's not as if there's a shower waiting
for you in a comfy bed and a dime who
wants you to tell her about all of her adventures.
You show up in some miserable dump and there are
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hostile natives, hostile weather, if you're in a town of
some kind, it's not very pleasant there either. And so
much of the exploration that went on this is something
you don't think about. It was in hot places, miserable places. Look,
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it sounds great to be on a pirate ship exploring
the Caribbean. Yeah, I'd love to be exploring the Caribbean
right now, just like you would in a ship that
has air conditioning. You know what's not pleasant. One hundred
and five degrees with one hundred send humidity and no
air conditioning whatsoever, and nothing to escape it. I told
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you before I went to ab and I did a
Haunted Jail tour in Charleston, South Carolina. Totally cool. It
was so cool. Uh you know, I'm always trying to
see a ghost, and I didn't see one there either.
But the jail tour, the history of it was amazing.
It wasn't a really rough part of town, but either way,
Haunted Jail tour was sick and one of the worst
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parts of the jail they talked about it all the time,
was a freaking heat. Charleston, South Carolina is one of
my favorite cities in the country. Now, it was not
very pleasant pre air conditioning.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Neither was the jail, where they'd stuff you in a
cell with no breeze whatsoever and you just sit there
and rot and sweat every single day.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Being a pirate would have been horrible. It was a
life you only lived if you had no other options.
I'm sorry you were disillusioned by it, but I have
one as well. Actually, I have a few of these things.
Sometimes when you start reading history books or even watching
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documentaries or things like that, sometimes oftentimes it's kind of
cooler than you thought it was going to be. I'll
be honest. The Kamikazes were deeper than I thought they
were going to be. Weren't you? Chris? Am I wrong?
Speaker 3 (37:31):
On?
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Even Chris agrees it wasn't what I expected. I just
expected a bunch of fanatical demons flying their planes into ships.
That's just what I expected. It was deeper than I thought.
Sometimes history surprises you in a good way. Other times
it doesn't. We'll talk about that.
This is a Jesse Kelly Show.
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The Jesse Kelly Show. Let's have some fun on a
Thursday and.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
All we are going to have so much fun tonight
on a Thursday, and ask doctor Jesse Thursday. Dome has
a book coming out. We'll make fun of her, but
of course we have to make it about you and
your questions. And man, I hope you like history, because
we're apparently gonna do a lot of that tonight. We're
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also going to talk about single subject bills, illegal immigration.
We're gonna talk about people believing the mainstream media, also
believing mainstream science, and it's fascinating questions from you. It's
going to be a rip roaring good time. So let
us begin now. I want to begin with actually kind
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of a different one that I just thought was so cool.
And I got a bunch of these emails, different forms
of them. I can't read them all. I'm not going
to read them all. It would be too boring, but
there just know that I love them all. Personal connections
to World War Two and the Kama Kazi stuff that
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we talked about earlier in the week. Don't worry, I'll
get to politics in a minute. We're going to talk
about single subject bills and things like that. So it's
going to be up and down in history and modern
and all kinds of things tonight on the Jesse Kelly Show.
But I got a bunch of these, and so many
of these, man, it's just amazing. The subject to this
one is Kama Kazi show USS Franklin. The USS Franklin,
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for those who don't know, was a World War II
aircraft carrier suffered horribly a Kami Kazi attack. I hope
I don't mess this up. I believe over three hundred
men on that ship died in one Kami Kazi attack.
It was terrible, fire's bombs, it was awful. They had
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a ceremony to bury the men at sea the next day,
and I think it was eight hours long if I
remember right. It was terrible. Anyway, this guy says, Jesse,
the Kama Kazi history lesson was off awesome. I just
finished it while catching up on your show. I wanted
to share a cool story of my grandfather, Benjamin Marion Ricks.
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He was on the USS Franklin when it was attacked
by Japanese Kama Kazis. After sustaining catastrophic damage and massive casualties.
It became known as the Ship that would not Die.
They defended multiple waves of kama Kazis before the USS
Pittsburgh came to rescue and tugged it into per They
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tugged ships back to Pearl Harbor, back to San Francisco,
back to several places in America for repairs when they
couldn't repair them at sea. By the way, those who
didn't abandon ship were given the prestigious award of being
in the seven zero four Club, which Ben was part of.
I can't put all the details in this email because
you will just lose attention and throw my email in
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the trash. That's not true, all right, it's true. After
my grandfather was discharged and the war was over, Ben
got dropped off in Brooklyn, New York, where he promptly
borrowed his buddy's motorcycle to pick up my at the
time sixteen year old grandmother and crashed on the way
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to their first date. He was thrown in jail for
being well dating a sixteen year old. He gets out
of jail visits her at the hospital. They fell in love,
got married, had my mom. He and Peg lived until
their nineties. They just don't make them like they used to. Man,
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John is this guy's name. Man, that's the kind of
stuff you send me. When we do these kinds of histories,
whether it's Vietnam or Korea or World War two, or
it becomes alive and special, and I love it, blesses
us beyond end here the Jesse Kelly Show. When we
can bless you in that way, and it's awesome. Now
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let's move on. We'll do some ugly politics stuff. But
I'm warning you, apparently history was on your mind. There's
a lot of that coming tonight, a lot of it
coming tonight, and I'm just in that kind of a mood. Plus,
there's no gigantic world ending story we have to tackle.
So maybe we'll just screw off for a while tonight.
But let's do get to some, honestly some important items
like this one, Dear Jesse. While we control everything, why
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do Republicans not bring forth single item bills like requiring
voter id or including males from fea male sports. His
name is Gil. It's a very good question. You could
ask the question about a lot of things. We have
the House, we have the Senate, we have the presidency.
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A single item bills seems so simple, doesn't It's it's
very simple. It's there's no negative to it. Why why
not bring that forward? So you know how we talked yesterday.
Maybe you remember we were talking about the communist politicians,
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Democrat politicians, and I was warning about the real Admiral
Buddhaje Edge, how he's a true believer. He's got a
real hate, a hatred, a darkness inside of him, a
real hatred for America. But then I brought up Chuck Schumer.
I mean Chuck Schumer is I called him a lizard
person yesterday, and I really do mean that. You can
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hear it when he talks. Chuck Schum doesn't believe in anything, nothing,
not right wing, not left wing. He's been a soulless
politician for so long he can't even really fake it
that well, whenever he's out there giving a speech about something,
he just he's going to say and do whatever it
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is that keeps him in power. All right, you probably
remember we talked about that yesterday. Well, here's here's the
bad side of that, the truth of that. You don't
think it's only Democrats who do that, right, how many
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elected Republicans at every level in this country. Do you
think are only committed to staying in power. It's a lot,
it's not all of them. I'm not saying that they're
all crooks, they're all trash. That's not true at all.
I know a lot of these people personally. Yes, there
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are a lot of them who are cooks in trash.
There are a lot of really good people. But there
are a lot of people who are simply a Republican
version of Chuck Schumer. And they'll tell you the things
you want to hear when they think they can manipulate you,
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but they're not in it for America or a secure border,
or low taxes or cutting spending or pro life or
whatever your issue is or my issue is. They're lizard people,
just like Chuck Schumer is, who will say whatever they
have to say on camera, but when it comes down
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to brass tax they're not going to actually do anything.
Uh Do you remember I actually kind of slips my
mind what the issue was in Wyoming. I believe it
was a boys and girls sports issue. Wyoming. You may
be not familiar with Wyoming. I am, because I grew
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up in Montana. We'd go down to Wyoming. We'd go
anelope hunting. Wyoming is a beautiful, really really cool state,
but there's like nobody there. It's enormous, and I think
the population is something like five hundred thousand people. It's
just there's just nobody there. The weather's brutal, it's not
many people can can survive that kind of weather want
to survive that kind of weather. But Wyoming is unbelievably red.
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I'm sure they only have I haven't looked in a while.
One maximum two congressional seats. I bet you it's one.
I guarantee it's Republican. But it's more than that. If
you break the state down by their state seats, state House,
state Senate, I'm not sure there is an elected Democrat
in a state wide seat in Wyoming. It's just red.
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And if there is, there's one or two, it's just red,
blood red. And yet they're shooting down obvious Republican bills.
How does that happen? Why does that happen? Well, here's
how in Wyant happens. There are democrats in Wyoming. There
are power hungry lizard people in Wyoming, and those lizard
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people they understand you can't run for office as a
Democrat and they understand they're okay, so they'll fake being Republicans.
I'm a Republican, God and Country. But they also understand
they have to learn to speak the language of the Republican.
And so what do they do. They go, they raise
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money and then on their campaign commercials or on the
little mailers they send you. If you're in Wyoming, you
get a card and it's you know, Bob Western and
he's talking about how much he loves guns, and he's
gonna be pro life in load taxes. Now does he
believe any of those things. Probably not, but he understands.
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If you you want power, if you want to go
to the state House, you want to go to the
state center in Wyoming, you have to pretend. You have
to lie or you're never getting elected. Now let's go
to the federal government. If that's a problem in a
God and Country blood red state like Wyoming, how much
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do you think it's a problem in the United States
House of Representatives? How many Republicans sitting in the House
right now do you think truly share your values versus
how many know they have to pretend come election sees.
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We'll expand on that a little bit more here in
a moment I want to bring something up again, and
I want to bring this up because I had a
conversation with ab about this earlier today about your personal protection,
taking ownership of your personal protection, and people have asked
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me before, do you travel with your gun? Your gun?
Do you travel with your gun? Look if you see
me anywhere in Texas, I have a gun on me
unless I've gone through a metal detector. I have my
concealed carry on me. But I also have my burn
A launcher on me at all times. The gun when
I travel, I have to leave it at home. I do.
I'm going to Boston, I'm going to New York. I'm
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going to I'm not going to prison, So I have
to leave the gun at home. Do you know what
comes with me all fifty states my burn a launcher,
no matter what, and I'm legal all fifty states. I
don't need a permit, I don't need a background check.
I don't have to stress about getting in a situation
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where I get frist or god forbid, have to use
it and then I go to prison for defending myself.
It comes with me everywhere. I check it in my bag,
and OB does the same. It's non lethal, get one
for your wife, Get one for yourself, your husband, your dad,
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your daughter. I know summer's coming to an end. You're
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It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful Thursday,
and ask doctor Jesse Thursday because I won't be here tomorrow,
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I am gonna have to start cooking up another history
show for you at some point. I haven't decided what
I'm gonna do it on. You don't. It's not coming
next week, so don't be getting your hopes up. We
gotta do some more politics and I'll get to some
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history tonight. Don't worry. But uh, I wanted to continue
what we were talking about there. Guy sends an email
in and says, Hey, why don't we have single item
bills right now? We have Republicans in the House, we
have Republicans in the Senate. We have a Republican president.
Voter ID. That's a simple one. Get it out there.
It's simple, it's easy. We'd have the votes. So I've
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shared this story with you before, but I'm gonna share
it again. I ran for Congress twice, as you well know,
in Arizona. I was the Republican nominee twice. In Arizona
went under lose the general, but I was the Republican
nominee twice. My first time, I experienced a lot of
things that really I don't I won't say shook me,
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but it definitely made me sit up in my chair
and notice how things really worked in this country. When
you're running for Congress, if especially once you become the nominee,
you will, if you ever do this, you will have
to go back to Washington, D C. For money. That's
what you're going back there for. You go back and
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try to get campaign donations from other congressmen and from
all kinds of various political packs who may align with you. Now,
let me pause on this for a quick second and
clarify something. Not all political packs are bad. There are
all kinds of wonderful ones out there that believe what
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you believe, and they're pushing for those things, and they'll
find candidates who will who they can back even in
a primary sometimes, who will push for the things they want.
I'll tell you one right now, Citizens United. Citizens United.
Everyone knows the name because of the Supreme Court case.
But Citizens United didn't wait until I won the general
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election to send me a check. They wanted more hardcore
people in Congress. They get involved in a primary, they said, no, no,
we need Jesse to win against the establishment guy. They
threw in anyway, set him out aside, you go back
to raise money. One night, I'm out with a couple congressmen,
just friends of mine, and I'm out and we go
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to dinner and there was a pack that I'm not
going to name, and it was one of these packs
that represents an industry you would know, and probably an
industry you would like to be honest with you, but
an industry you would know. Now, this industry gets a
lot of federal money, a lot of federal money. Probably
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shouldn't a lot of it, probably not justified, but they
get a lot of federal money. They sat down to
dinner with me, they were part of this group. And
I'm back there making my pitch. Hey, I'm Jesse Kelly,
and I'm gonna save America and all the naive things
you believe when you're young and then running for all
that stuff. I'm gonna save the country by myself. So
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I make my pitch. But they weren't really interested in that.
They didn't care about my position on really any issue,
any issue none. They didn't ask to be a specific thing.
The only thing they wanted to know was, Hey, you're
gonna keep the money flowing. Right, if a bill comes
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up and it means money for us, you're gonna vote
yes on that, right. And of course I didn't tell
them that told him no, That's how I was like
that just didn't care but that answer, and they made
it obvious. It was not like it was subtle. That
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answer was going to determine whether they use their vast
quantity of money to back my candidacy or not. They
chose to abstain because of the answer I gave them.
Now that that's one example of I know, it's not
shocking to you of how it works, how many Republicans
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in the House of Representatives, the United States Senate, how
many of them want to keep getting re elected. Pretty
much all of them. How do you get reelected? Well,
you have to raise money. It's really, really, really easy
to give in the temptation. We're all susceptible to it,
aren't you. I know, I am, I'm a human being.
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You want to get reelected, you want to go back
to the Senate, you want to go back to the
House for another two years. Well, you know what doesn't
get you there? Single subject bills that help the American people.
You know what does get you reelected? A large, large
campaign war chest where you can go to the people
of Wyoming, the people of South Carolina, and you can
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run an ad on TV when they're watching Fox News
at night telling them how much you stand with Trump
in the Second Amendment and I love God. It takes
a lot of money to run that ad. How do
you get that money? You get that money by stealing
from the American people. And you steal from the American people.
Not with single subject bills that help the American people.
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You steal from the American people by loading a bunch
of crap into good bills forcing Congress to vote yes
on it. The money flows to them. Your money flows
to them, They in turn right you a check for it,
and everybody wins, except of course, the American people. That's
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how it works. It's ugly. I hate it, you hate it,
but that's how it works. Let's do a little history,
just a little history. Then we'll get back to we
legals and things like that. Before we do that, let's
take care of ourselves first. We can't save the country
unless we take care of ourselves first. You need to
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be feeling good. You need to have energy, You need
to be in a good mood. You need to be
ready to go at the end of the day, not
out of gas when you get home, plopping down on
the couch. I don't want to make dinner. I don't
want to go for a walk. What don't you do now?
Because you're out of energy. You don't even realize it's
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because your body's full of synthetic estrogens, estrogens from the plastics.
It's in the water we shower in it. We've lost
fifty percent of our testosterone in the last fifty years,
and now we're out of gas and depressed all the time,
and we can't figure out why. Let chalk change your
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your leisure or leisure Chris, don't shake your head anyway.
I'm sorry I have to play this before we get
back to the questions. Dome Today made a huge announcement.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Just over a year ago. I launched my campaign for
President of the United States, one hundred and seven days
traveling the country fighting for our future, the shortest presidential
campaign in modern history. It was intense, high stakes, and
deeply personal for me and for so many of you.
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Since leaving office, I've spent a lot of time reflecting
on those days, talking with my team, my family, my friends,
and my thoughts together and ask.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
No she totally sounds a little soft. Absolutely, Chris.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Since writing a journal that is this book One hundred
and seven Days with candor and reflection, I've written a
behind the scenes account of that journey. In writing this book,
one truth kept coming back to me.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Our soundboards still a little messed up. I really missed
my fart sound. I was going to finish that, what Chris,
I was going to do, I was going to all right,
So before we get back to the questions, let's do
another little kind of behind the scenes look at politics.
Something I've discovered from working in politics and doing radio
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and TV, and and then I wrote a book, The
Anti Communist Manifesto, available at Jesse kellybook dot com. What
Chris anyway? Uh? Politics, politicians, they've discovered the ultimate way
to to get rich. They write a book. They write
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a book. Nobody's interested in. How many people are going
to buy domes one hundred and seven Days book, even democrats?
How many people Kamala Harris his own family, They don't
want to read her stupid book that somebody ghost wrote
for her. That no one cares about this, but she'll
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make millions. It happens all the time, these Democrats come
out with these books and they make millions. Now, remember
when we discussed a system membership card. You know what
the system is. We talk about it all the time.
All the institutions supposed to be separate, now they all
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now that they're all conquered by communists, they work together,
speak with one voy's one purpose. You got all that,
and we talk about a system membership card, essentially a
proving to be a loyal member of the Communist party.
If you are loyal to the system, there are generous rewards.
It's how so many people fall victim to it. So
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many people get sucked in by it. It pays big
money to be loyal to the system. We're all making
fun of Stephen Colbert because his show got canceled. His
show was losing forty million dollars a year. If you
lost your boss forty dollars a year, you would get fired.
Stephen Colbert was making what was he making, Chris something
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like ten million? I think he was making ten million,
if not more a year. He will retire hit the
rest of his life will be mansions in private jets.
For a show that lost forty million dollars a year.
How could that go on? As long as it did.
He was a loyal member of the system. How much
Chris fifteen mil a year professional quarterback money? Well not anymore,
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but used to be professional quarterback money. That's because he
was low. Now for politicians, here's how it works. They
write a book no one cares about. Michelle Obama did this,
Dome did it? They all do it. They write a
book no one cares about. No one's buying it, no
one's reading it. So how does the money come flowing in? Well,
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the book publisher will give you an advance based on
anticipated sales, the size of your platform in advanced Look,
I got one for mine, I believe me. It was
not Michelle Obama's, but I got one for mine. You
get an advance. Hey, you have this kind of a following,
you have a radio show, you have a famous this,
you have whatever, This is what we think your book
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will sell. Let us write you a large check and
they divvy it out by you know, published date, the
date you finished writing it to But let us write
you a large check for it. You cash the money,
publish the book, go on a little book tour. Okay,
why would Dome get a I haven't seen it yet.
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I actually don't know the number, but I promise you
the number is north of a million dollars. Why would
don't We'll just call it a million. It'll be north
of that. Why would Dome get a million dollars from
any book publisher? Do they want to lose money? Well, no,
it's not that. You know, we talk about the system
membership card. Well, there is a large, large quantity of
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cash by a lot of its taxpayer money through nonprofits
in these NGOs, some of its communist billionaires, the George
Soros types, and many others. He's just the name. You
would know. There's a huge amount of communist money flowing
through our system. How it works is you find yourself
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a communist group who will purchase fifty thousand, one hundred
thousand copies of your book. Not only does that put
you on the bestseller list, but the publisher may back
all the money they just gave you for an advance.
So it's one of those things where everyone wins if
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you're a loyal member of the system, if your system
membership card is up to date. Dome writes a book
one hundred and seven days, no one gives it crap,
but it will sell a ton, and when the numbers
come out of how many had sold, you'll look at
the numbers and you'll say, are you kidding me? Fifty
thousand people bought this crappy book. No one wants to
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read that. Fifty thousand books are sitting in a cardboard
box at Communist Inc. The NGO who purchased fifty thousand copies,
probably in a roundabout way with taxpayer funds, maybe with
George Soros money. The publisher got their money back, Dome
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got paid, she got money in the bank, and everyone wins.
And this is how all communist systems have always operated.
Communist systems operate by rewarding people who were loyal to
the system. It's always worked that way and always will.
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In East Germany, the Soviet Union, China, Cambodia, whatever, everyone
wasn't starving. Oh yeah, millions and millions of people were
tortured and killed and starved, but not loyal members to
the party. If you were loyal to the party, You've
got a great car, you got a great job, you
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got benefits you need, healthcare, will fly you somewhere. No
big stake night tonight sounds good boys? Oh what's that?
Another ten million peasants died last month, they should have
gotten their loyalty card. That's how it's always worked, and
that's how it works with the communist book network. It
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does not work that way. On the right, the right.
You have to sell books. This is the bottom line. You
have to sell books. There really aren't at least not
that I'm aware of. I'm sure maybe there's one or
two out there. There's not a big organization that will
come swoop in and buy up, you know, ten thousand copies,
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one hundred thousand copies of your book and make you
a bunch of cheddar. That doesn't really exist. On the right,
we don't have that kind of patronage network. But the
communists in this country. Do you want to know how
you know Bernie Sanders has three homes? How Joe Biden's
going to make a bunch of money Dome Michelle Obama.
That's how it works. You have a ghost writer, You
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pay him fifty grand, he writes your book for you,
pretty clean, pretty easy. You're done. Your rich publisher made money.
You made money. Some billionaires out what one hundred grand?
He didn't even know it existed. He's got one hundred
grand in his sofa and everyone wins. Sorry, I'm went
off on a political tame. Now we'll go back and
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do some more. Asked doctor Jesse, questions, is what is
a historical thing that kind of disillusioned me? Great email.
We'll talk about that in a moment. Before we talk
about that, we did get an email asking asking me
to do a history episode on the guys behind enemy
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lines in Vietnam. Those are the macv SG guys. Chris,
do you have that date the date we did that.
I'll get it for you when we come back. Now,
it's fine, I'll get it for you when we come back.
I did one of those already. I'm not going to
do another one. It's known as mac V SOG. Those
were the guys who Llaos Cambodia behind enemy lines, and honestly,
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most of them died. It's one of the things about
mac v SAG. Their legends to this day they always
will be and the majority of them didn't make it.
You don't live when you go behind enemy lines. That
happens in the movies. You know. The CEO of Pure
Talk did two tours with MacFee Sogh. I just so
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admire it. Man the cell phone company that saves you money,
that hires Americans unlike Verizon AT and T and T Mobile.
That company their CEO is mac V Soog. Oh thank
you Chris. By the way, that episode November thirteenth. November
thirteenth of twenty twenty three, we did a mac V
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says Jesse Kelly. You're listening to the Jesse Kelly Show.
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It is.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
It's the Jesse Kelly Show on a fantastic Thursday. I
feel like I got too dark. I was talking about
ugly political things. I don't like it. I'm I'm in
a great mood. I don't like it. Let's do some
do some other stuff. Hey, Jesse, I'm a big history
guy like you. I really appreciate the book references you
give out. Sometimes though I'm disappointed when I learned about
(31:22):
the reality of stuff. I read a book called Black Flags,
Blue Waters on the Golden Age of piracy, and it
turns out being a pirate kind of sucked. It didn't
last very long, and you probably died. What's the most
disillusioning historical thing you've learned, Because let's focus on the
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pirate thing for a moment. There is something known as
the Golden Age of piracy. Maybe you've heard of this before.
The Golden Age of piracy. He just mentioned it in
the email. It's it's like a year. I know. Look, hey,
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I watched Pirates of the Caribbean too. I have kids too. Surely,
surely they're having a good time. They're drinking some room,
they're singing and dancing some funny lines. It didn't last
very long. It didn't last very long at all. It
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didn't last very long because the pirates in the Golden
Age of piracy, they were stealing from large powerful empires
with large, powerful navies. And large powerful empires with armies
and navies do not allow you to take their goods.
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They will kill you if you do so. Then now
and always. The friggin' Romans did this. Actually, Pompy Magnus
I brought up Pompy Magnus last night. One of his
big claims to fame was there were a bunch of
pirates that up in a Mediterranean and they were pillaging
some Roman stuff. Ooh yeah, they all died. Poppy Magnets
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just marched down there and murdered every single one of them.
It didn't last very long. And as far as it,
how bad it sucked, I'm gonna expand this beyond piracy.
I'm a dude, And because I'm a dude, I am
fascinated with sailing. Old sailing ships. Not modern stuff like
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that that doesn't interest me at all, but old sailing ships,
Christopher Columbus, Sir Francis Drake, you name it, I am
fascinated by it. Warships, exploration, Magellan, all of it. I'm
fascinated by it. That's just I don't know. There's something
about the adventure of it, the danger of it. I'm
fascinated by it. Keep in mind that was a life
of living hell that many of those guys many I
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don't know that I would say majority, because I don't
have numbers on that. They were outlaws. They were out casts.
They were people who didn't have other options. Not only
was there horrible danger, mainly from the weather. The food
was beyond putrid. Remember this is pre refrigeration. The water
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had to be in buckets. Imagine a hot bucket of
water in the bottom of a ship being your only
source of fresh water. The bathroom situation, the discipline on
the ships had to be unbelievably rigid because of the
type of people. We're not even just talking about pirate ships,
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because of the type of people who would have to
work on the ships. You fill up a ship with
a bunch of convicts or guys kind of from the
rough side of the tracks. And I'm not insulting you
if you're from the rough side of the tracks, but
you're going to have to do terrible things to keep
people in mind. You're gonna have to put fear in them.
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It would be awful to have been on an old
sailing ship, absolutely awful. And then when you get wherever
you're going, it's not as if there's a shower waiting
for you in a comfy bed and a dime who
wants you to tell her about all of her adventures.
You show up in some miserable dump and there are
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hostile natives, hostile weather, if you're in a town of
some kind, it's not very pleasant there either. And so
much of the exploration that went on this is something
you don't think about. It was in hot places, miserable places. Look,
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it sounds great to be on a pirate ship exploring
the Caribbean. Yeah, I'd love to be exploring the Caribbean
right now, just like you would in a ship that
has air conditioning. You know what's not pleasant. One hundred
and five degrees with one hundred send humidity and no
air conditioning whatsoever, and nothing to escape it. I told
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you before I went to ab and I did a
Haunted Jail tour in Charleston, South Carolina. Totally cool. It
was so cool. Uh you know, I'm always trying to
see a ghost, and I didn't see one there either.
But the jail tour, the history of it was amazing.
It wasn't a really rough part of town, but either way,
Haunted Jail tour was sick and one of the worst
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parts of the jail they talked about it all the time,
was a freaking heat. Charleston, South Carolina is one of
my favorite cities in the country. Now, it was not
very pleasant pre air conditioning.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Neither was the jail, where they'd stuff you in a
cell with no breeze whatsoever and you just sit there
and rot and sweat every single day.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Being a pirate would have been horrible. It was a
life you only lived if you had no other options.
I'm sorry you were disillusioned by it, but I have
one as well. Actually, I have a few of these things.
Sometimes when you start reading history books or even watching
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documentaries or things like that, sometimes oftentimes it's kind of
cooler than you thought it was going to be. I'll
be honest. The Kamikazes were deeper than I thought they
were going to be. Weren't you? Chris? Am I wrong?
Speaker 3 (37:31):
On?
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Even Chris agrees it wasn't what I expected. I just
expected a bunch of fanatical demons flying their planes into ships.
That's just what I expected. It was deeper than I thought.
Sometimes history surprises you in a good way. Other times
it doesn't. We'll talk about that.
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