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August 8, 2025 45 mins

President Trump is ordering a new census that will not include illegal aliens. What does this mean for the future of the country? Jesse Kelly chats with Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies. Jesse also speaks with journalist and activist Tommy Robinson, who continues to battle with British authorities over immigration rhetoric. Plus, Alex Marlow unveils shocking revelations about the Biden White House's role in the 2024 election lawfare against Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Let's talk about violence and political rhetoric. Did Donald Trump
change the political map of this country? What's going on
in the UK. We have such a great show for
you on our right.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Let's talk about violence.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yes, this is going to be about street communists going crazy,
but before we get to them, let's have an uncomfortable
talk about violence. Because violence has always been and will
always be present. It's just part of our humanity. Violence
and the power violence holds. Remember Mao famously said that

(00:48):
all political power comes from the barrel of a gun.
What's he saying there? Whoever can do the most violence
is the one who's going to hold power.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
In the end?

Speaker 1 (01:00):
I did the Praetorian Guard in Rome end up assassinating
and then choosing new Roman emperors? All the time they
were the only ones with swords violence. Good guys do violence.
Bad guys do violence, and there is power in it.
We have to acknowledge that. We don't want to because
we don't want to be violent people.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
I don't want you to be violent.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
I don't want to be violent, but we have to
acknowledge there is power there. And if you don't have
any morality holding you back from violence, then you use
violence as a tool. I've used the analogy before. If
I'm hungry, and I am a little hungry right now,
and I walk down the hall and I see a

(01:42):
little old lady carrying a pizza, why don't I just
take it from her, push her down and take it
from her. But because I have something morally against that,
so I wouldn't. But what if that morality didn't exist,
that wall of morality, Well, she's going down on that
pizza is going to be mine.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Have always understood that.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Violence is necessary for them, and they have never had
any moral wall holding them back from using it. They
are revolutionaries, Remember, they're fighting a revolution. There's no nonviolent way.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
To fight a revolution.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
You can't tear down an existing system without some level
of violence. Whether you're punching people in the face, murdering people,
tearing down statues, vandalizing things, some level of violence is
going to be necessary if you're tearing something down. And Democrats,
American communists have always understood that their street animals give

(02:41):
them power. And they have lots of them. They've cultivated them,
they've nourished them. Now, what does that mean? We have
a lot of mixed up, violent, mentally ill drug addicted
people in the United States of America almost all people.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
They come from broken.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Homes, their lives are messed up, and they find a
home with the street animals, with the communists, and that
home it gives them meaning, it gives them purpose. Soon
you go from being lost, just floating in the wind, jobless, hopeless,
high all the time, to having a purpose.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
What would be that purpose? Well, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Taking down the Nazis. See somebody just firebombed and Ice
office in Washington through a brick in the front, little
fire out back.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
And this is not a one off.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
This has been happening and I've been warning you more
as coming. This is now going to increase from here,
organized planned street violence, and the animals who commit this
kind of violence are going to move on from hard
targets like boor attack, and they're going to come to
your church, They're going to come to your child's school.

(03:57):
They're going to find soft targets where they can hurt
the people they want to hurt. They're not going to
accept failure forever. This is not to get you to
hide or even be afraid or stay in your home.
This is to let you know to keep your eyes,
open carry if you can, and be ready to protect yourself.

(04:18):
Because organized street communism in this country is going to
increase from here. Let's talk about why. Why is it
going to increase from here? And it will. I have
a great deal of fear that a ne agent is
going to be hurt or killed, family hurt or killed,

(04:39):
other innocent people hurt or killed.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Why will it increase?

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Well, there is something wonderful happening in the United States
of America, and that wonderful thing is the power base
of the Democrats. The foundation of the Democrat Party is
being taken out. It's eroding underneath them. The Democrat Party
is not popular. It's not a fifty to fifty country.

(05:03):
It appears to be fifty to fifty because they mass
import foreigners, disloyal foreigners who will of course vote Democrats
who are also disloyal. They will mass import foreigners, and
they will find a million different ways to take your
tax money, launder it through the various levels of government,
and have that money end up going back to them
and their causes. The Democrat Party is propped up by

(05:27):
illegal immigration and taxpayer money. The Trump administration, to their credit,
have been going after both of those things for six
months now with a great deal of success.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
We are deporting people.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Is it enough, of course not, But we are deporting people,
a lot of them. We have a million self deportations already.
We are seeing NGOs be defunded, be cut off, Usaid
be cut that be shut down. These are not small things.
These are not little side news stories. If you're an
American communist, this is your entire base of power. Without

(05:59):
these you are nothing. You're not popular, no one wants
Trannies are everywhere. You're not popular. You need these things
to survive. So what we have now are American communists,
the elite communists. I'm talking about the politicians, the people
in the media. They are desperate, They are afraid, and
they are desperate. And because they're afraid and desperate, they

(06:21):
are going to use the tools they have at their disposal,
and one of the most effective tools they.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Have is violence.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Of course, now, they're never going to get their hands
dirty themselves, all these Democrat politicians, people in the media.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
But they don't have to.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
They're well aware there are legions of those mentally ill
demons sitting around waiting for marching orders. When Rachel Maddow
goes on television and says this, it's not just a
little monologue on her crappy television show. These are interpreted
by the animals as marching orders.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Changing is profoundly different than it was even six months ago,
because we do now live in a country that has
an authoritarian leader in charge. We have a consolidating dictatorship
in our country. When you imagine an authoritarian country, right,
what you imagine is masked secret police breaking people's car

(07:14):
windows and snatching people off the streets and out of
church parking lots and courtroom hallways and taking them away
with no charges, no notice, no paperwork, no explanation, And
they're trying to make it into a national entertainment to
threaten to feed immigrants to alligators in South Florida. They're
making them eat off dishes on the floor like their

(07:35):
dogs the Chrome Detention Center in Florida.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
You're rolling your eyes. That's dramatic, that's ridiculous. That's not
what's happening. I understand. That's what normal people see that
the animals sitting at home with no parents, no purpose,
no job, no nothing. They hear a purpose, they hear
marching orders and that's why Democrats love love to bring

(08:03):
up the Holocaust when they talk about Republicans.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
And then integration happening. Everybody thought they accept this. They
don't accept this. They are showing us who they are.
We should believe in and we better have the courage
to stand up otherwise we will fall for anything. And
in this country we will be defeated, deported. I mean,
we will lose all of our rights. And if you
think it can't happen, it can. And I will liken
this to the Holocaust. People are like, well, how did

(08:29):
the Holocaust happen? How is somebody in a position to
kill all their people? Well, good people remain.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
The Holocaust? Why do they love the Nazi references? The
Holocaust references? What is it about that that they love
so much? Well, your morality, your conscience. What can't you
do to a Nazi? You make your enemy, whoever he is,
You make your enemy out to be a Nazi who's

(09:00):
committing one of the worst acts of evil in the
history of mankind, the Holocaust. Don't you have a moral
license to do whatever you want. That's how the street
animals interpret it. That's why they march forward with guns, knives, rocks, firebombs.
That's why they do the things they do. They're marching
forward fighting the Nazis after all, and Democrats and members

(09:23):
of the media know it as they watch their power
base erode underneath them. They are desperate and they are
going to continue to give out orders. Some are a
little bit more forward than others. I want you to
listen to this. This is the vice mayor of a
city in Los Angeles County. This is not some nobody.
This is not you or me standing on the street corner.

(09:44):
This is an elected official.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Listen to this.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
Not for nothing, but I want to know where all
the trollers are at in Los Angeles, Eighteenth Street, Florentia.

Speaker 6 (09:54):
Where's the leadership at?

Speaker 5 (09:56):
Because you guys are all about territory and this is
eighteenth Street and this is so anty. You can tag
everything up, claiming hood, and now that your hood's being
invaded by the biggest gang there is, they aren't a
peep out of you. It's everyone else who's not about
the gang life that's out there protesting and speaking up.
We're out there like by our tour, protecting our tur

(10:18):
protecting our people, and like where you at, dude, they're
running a muck all up.

Speaker 7 (10:23):
In your on your streets.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
So don't be trying to claim no black, no nothing.
If you're not showing up right now trying to like
help out and organize, I don't want to hear a
peep out of you once they're gone, trying to claim.

Speaker 8 (10:36):
That this is my block. This was not your block.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
You aren't even here helping out. So whoever's the leadership
over there, just get your members in order.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
We really do have some savages and elected office in
this country. That's an elected official calling for street gangs
to attack ICE agents. Just make sure you're ready, aspiration
is going to lead to more violence from these people.
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Speaker 1 (12:05):
Okay, I'm sure you saw the news that Trump has
directed the Department of Commerce to start working on a
new census. Why well, he said this one is not
going to count illegal aliens, which a lot of Americans,
especially those maybe not quite as informed as you are,
sat up in their chair and said, wait, we were
counting illegal aliens before joining me now to discuss all

(12:27):
this garbage. Mark Grecorian, executive director at the Great Center
for Immigration Studies. Hey, Mark, we were counting illegal aliens
in the census.

Speaker 9 (12:36):
We've always been counting illegal aliens. We count foreign students,
foreign workers, you name it. And it's not just that
we count them, but we count them for purposes of
apportioning congressional seats. That's the real issue. It's not that
they're voting, it's that California gets more seats because it
has all these illegal aliens living there who get counted

(12:58):
in the census.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Okay, mart, so why good question.

Speaker 9 (13:07):
The Constitution says, you know, an enumeration of the you know,
the full count of the persons in a state, or
whatever the specific wording is, but it's been interpreted that
they have to count every warm body they can find.
Now it's not clear though, after doing that, if you

(13:28):
can exclude people who aren't citizens from the from the
calculations for how many House or representative seats a state gets.
That's kind of the important question because if there's a
way to exclude the illegals from the count, or even
legals who aren't citizens yet, then when you redo the

(13:51):
number of congressmen each state gets based on population, it
changes a lot and bloost democratic states would lose. Our
calculation is something like fourteen seats in the House of
Representatives and that Republican seats. This was something we did
last year. Republican states would gain ten and like swing

(14:14):
states would gain four something like that. That's our estimate.
But remember that's not illegals, that's all non citizens. Because
most of the effect in distorting politics comes from immigration policy. Overall,
not just illegal immigration, because most immigrants are legal immigrants.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Which is the problem in and of itself. Okay, Mark,
so can you walk me through. This doesn't sound like
the kind of thing. As much as I want it
to be true, this doesn't sound like the kind of
thing that Trump can just order. Hey, no more accounting illegals,
because to hear you talk, the courts have said you
got to count the illegals.

Speaker 9 (14:59):
Well, we'll see, I mean, and it's going to be
challenged in court, so we'll see whether they can say, Look,
we're going to count everybody, but use that count for
every all purposes, like government benefits are distributed among states.

Speaker 8 (15:17):
What have you.

Speaker 9 (15:17):
But we're not going to count it. We're not going
to count the illegals. We're not going to include them.
When we figure out how many congressman a state gets.
That still might be struck down by the courts. But
that's a little bit more of an ambiguous question, and
the idea of redoing it now just doesn't make sense.
It'll be in court for a year, two years. It

(15:41):
takes a long time to organize for a census. What
they need to be doing is getting it, is making
sure that the next census, the one that's supposed to
be done less than five years from now, is the
way they want it done. You see what I mean?
In other words, change the rules for the next regular census,
because trying to do one between now and then just

(16:02):
doesn't seem realistic, especially if you're going to change the
rules and change the way we count people.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Okay, so is this possibly maybe I'm just guessing here,
Is this possibly an effort to get those rules changed
for the official one. You announce you're going to do one,
you announce you're not counting illegals. Maybe this is just
a step one to get the ball rolling.

Speaker 9 (16:25):
I think it's entirely possible. They're basically trying to get
the lawsuits rolling, as it were, so that they'll be
the lawsuits, the cases will be resolved by the time
they have to start gearing up for the census, because
they've got to hire thousands of people part time employees.
A lot of it goes through the mail. Everybody's gotten
those census things in the mail, but they got to

(16:46):
follow up because a lot of people don't bother, they
throw it away, they don't answer, So there's a lot
of work involved. So yes, I think you're right. I
think this is a way to get the legal challenges
started early so that they will hopefully be resolved one
way or the other by the time they start getting
around to organizing the next census.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Let's switch gears here. How are we doing on mass
deportations mark? Because we've got about thirty forty million we
got to send home.

Speaker 9 (17:16):
It's it's a slow start, but it's inevitably going to
be a slow start. What I think we're going to
see numbers go up now is because of that big,
beautiful bill that the Congress passed and the President signed.
That bill didn't so much change the rules immigration rules,

(17:36):
because it couldn't. It had to only be about money.
But what it did is give ICE a lot of
extra money for detention space. That's the key, because a
lot of the politicians are talking about how this is
extra money for ICE agents border patrol. It'll take a
long time to recruit and train new agents because they're

(18:00):
law enforcement people. It's a complicated area. It's hard to do.
But what's not hard to do is increase the number
of amount of bed space you have. That's why the
President's talking about opening up detention facilities in some army
bases using local jails. You have deals with local jails
that you pay them for the space. And the reason
that's important is that ICE can arrest all the people

(18:23):
at once, but if it's got nowhere to hold them
while it does the paperwork to boot them out of
the country, then it just ends up letting them go.
They're wasted, they're just spinning their wheels. So now that
they're going to have and they're already starting to do this,
it'll take another few weeks a month to get everything going.
They're going to have a lot more room to hold people,
so they're going to be able to arrest a lot

(18:43):
more people, and then you get the work started to
deport them.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Mark, how are we doing on the legal immigration front,
because that's a passion project of mine as well. Mass
immigration doesn't suddenly become wonderful because some scumbag politicians and
decides it's legal.

Speaker 9 (19:02):
Yeah, well it's a four hundred and thirty five scum
bag politicians, because our legal immigration was passed by Congress
and signed by the President, so that's not going to
be changing anytime soon. Congress is hard time naming post offices.
Let one changing immigration policy. But there's a lot of
things that the president's appointees can do to tighten that up.

(19:25):
And just a couple of weeks ago, the new head
of the DHS section called USCIS, which does all the
green cards and work permit, citizenship, all that paperwork stuff.
The new guy was sworn in. He's a top guy.
He's done work for us. He was with the Heritage Foundation.
Deep knowledge has been at USCIS before. And what you're

(19:47):
going to see is the numbers are going to go down,
not because the rules change, but because the rules actually
get enforced. They're going to make sure that whatever the
requirements are in the law, they actually follow and don't
just you know, look the other way or rubber stamp things.
So it's not perfect. It's the kind of thing that

(20:08):
President Gavin Newsom can undo, you know, with the snap
of his fingers. But it's a start. And what we
really need is at some point Congress to change the rules.
But I'm not holding my breath on that at least
this year.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
President Gavin Newsom, don't put that evil on me. Mark,
thank you, sir, Come back, all right. We have Tommy Robinson.
We spent a lot of time in solitary confinement in
a country that used to be free. Talk to him
before we talk to him, let me talk to you
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(20:47):
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Speaker 2 (21:37):
We'll be back.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Remember a couple of weeks ago, kir Starmer met with
Trump and started bragging that the UK has free speech.
That is very interesting. You know who we should talk
to you about that. My friend Tommy Robinson's journalist. Hey
it was, Oh, surely it was a year ago, I
fig or so since the last time we spoke on TV.

(22:07):
What have you been doing since then? On vacation or
something like that.

Speaker 6 (22:11):
I spent seven months of solitary confinement because I made
a documentary and a film as a journalist, a film
full of facts and truths, a film that our government
and our judiciary wished the public didn't see. So my
punishment for that was a eighteen month prison sentence where
I was held in maximum security facilities on social confinement.
During my time in that incarceration, I had to listen

(22:34):
as Keir Starmut lied in the Oval office, took Donald
Trump and Jade Vance as a pair of mugs, lying
to them about free speech in this country. Just done
the same this week, as I'm sure you've all seen,
where Donald Trump made him look like the schoolboy that
he is, but he again tried to say we have
free speech this week. Two days ago, I was arrested
on free charges to do with three social media posts.

(22:58):
Free social media posts. One of them was a Hamass
flag Palaestinian flag where it said comas I faced criminal
arrest for that. I faced arrest for a factual newspaper article.
Where under the Online Safety Act that they've brought in
in this country, Basically I shared a Daily Mail newspaper article.

(23:20):
But the Daily Mail and the government selected media are
protected from any of these prosecutions. But if the public
or citizen journalists share them, then there's now a law
where the government where the police can then arrest you,
detain you, prosecute you for sharing factual information. The story
that I shared said that there was a tire school

(23:42):
in London where English was not spoken as the first
language by any pupil. For that factual article, I was
detained under arrest this week. So there is no free
speech in this country. It's the thing is at least
now the rest of the globe. No, it is a
laughing stock.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
It is so insanely sad for a country I adore
so much. Okay, let's rewind. First of all, let's talk
about prison.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
How bad was it? What was it like? The food
had to be friggin' off.

Speaker 6 (24:11):
For so for me, prisons not normal because every one
of our prisons, the prison I was sent to had
a forty percent Muslim population.

Speaker 8 (24:18):
Fifty percent of them are doing life for murder.

Speaker 6 (24:20):
So it's one of the most high security, maximum security
facilies in our country. I don't know why I was there.
I was imprisoned for playing a field, a civil offense,
not a criminal offense.

Speaker 8 (24:34):
A civil offense.

Speaker 6 (24:35):
Now, for civil crimes you go to an open prison
where you go home at weekends, where you're out all
day working. Nope, I wasn't given any of those opportunities.
I was held on total solich confinement. Now, this is
not done by mistake. This was done on purpose. The
reason for that in the UK or in the European Union.
In the EU, we have the Mandela Rule, which prohibits

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solich confinement for more than fourteen days and the negative
effect it has on your mental health. Now, to keep
you in solitary refinement, it's not the prison system that's
allowed to do that.

Speaker 8 (25:07):
It goes to the government.

Speaker 6 (25:09):
So every forty two days my case was reviewed by
Shabina ma Mood, the Justice Minister, a Muslim for the
Labor Party, who decided every forty two days that the
only way to deal with me, a journalist, for playing
a film, was to detain me in total solitary confinement.
Against all the advice from psychologists, from mental health teams,
from prison teams. I was assessed by medical groups who

(25:33):
said I was suffering from postal max stress disorder. They
knew full well what they were doing, that they continued
to do it anyway.

Speaker 8 (25:39):
The reason being I was used. Lucy Connolly was used.

Speaker 6 (25:42):
Other British patriots have been used to send a message
of fear to the British public. If you speak out,
if you step out of line, if you oppose mass immigration,
if you oppose any of the government globalist narratives, then
we will crush you and we literally can do what
we want, because that's exactly what they've.

Speaker 8 (25:59):
Done with me.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Tell me, I mean, I know it's a little personal brother,
but how are you doing now?

Speaker 2 (26:06):
There's no way you can be.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Doing okay after that much time laughed in a hall
like that, No.

Speaker 8 (26:12):
I come out now.

Speaker 6 (26:15):
I was struggling, just being honest, struggling, struggling. I knew
when I was in there in my first week, So
I don't know if I don't know, if you're aware.
In twenty eighteen, I was reporting outside the court case
in Leeds where I questioned some Muslim pedophiles about how
they felt about their verdict. I was taken off the
streets by the judge and I was sentenced to thirteen
months in prison. Within two hours. He let the pedophiles

(26:36):
go home. Some of them have sconded, and he saw
me as the biggest danger for asking them a question.
I was put in jail. It took eleven weeks of
solitary confinement before we went to the Court of Appeal,
where the judge found that the entire process was flawed.
I was not even asked to plead guilty or not guilty.
I was not giving them a chance for legal representation.
They put a reporting restriction on the fact they'd imprisoned me.

(26:57):
Now they've done all of this because at the time
I was the sexual exploitation and rape gangs that have
played this entire nation at the hands of his imported
Islamic immigration.

Speaker 8 (27:06):
So they don't want people talking about it.

Speaker 6 (27:08):
There's been a target on my head for the last
fifteen years because we have exposed it continuously and continuously,
and they don't want anyone to expose it because it
exposes their flaws, their flawed open border mass immigration policies. Now,
when I went to jail in twenty and eight, I'll
be honest, Jesse, I'll be honest. I went in one
person and I come out another, and that was after

(27:29):
eleven weeks. I was damaged, seriously damaged from eleven weeks
of soldier confinement, and it took.

Speaker 8 (27:34):
Me years years to get myself back to a position.

Speaker 6 (27:37):
I went through some very dark times just from that
eleven weeks. So when it comes to this sentence, and
I knew I faced nine months in solitary. I spoke
to the psychologists in the first week and said, you're
the expert here. What is nine months of soldier confinement?
When I say soldier confinement, that's me sat on my own,
twenty four hours a day, totally on my own. I
went into Woodhill Prison and left Woodhill Prison without seeing

(27:58):
another prisoner. What's that going to do to me? She said,
It's going to be devastating for you. So why are
you doing it? How are you doing it? How in
twenty twenty four and twenty five is this happening to
a journalist in Great Britain. I'm only grateful, Jesse that
the film that I made, and I knew when I
released that film, I knew what would happen. I knew
because they give me a court order and injunction to

(28:19):
prevent the public seeing the truth.

Speaker 8 (28:21):
So I knew the imprisoned me, but I put it.

Speaker 6 (28:23):
Out hoping that that would result in the world watching
the film. That film received one hundred and sixty seven
million views, the most watched film in British history. Elon
Musk shared it, I'm very grateful to Elon Musk. You see,
without X in the UK, we would have zero free speech.
Although we're fighting now where peen lives were imprisoned, there's
still an opportunity for the public, the British public, to
have a platform for discourse, a platform for debate, and

(28:46):
a platform to highlight the failings of the corrupt government.
Without X, we would have zero chants in this battle.
So there is a revolution brewing in Great Britain and
it's thanks to Elon Musk and his fight for free speech.
So I'm incredibly grateful for that, fateful for every American
patriot that shared and spoke about my imprisonment, that spoke
up about it. And then I was faced. I was

(29:07):
faced at the end of my seven month of soldichal confinement,
where I was given an option where if I don't
delete the film. Then when I walk out, I go
straight back in for two years, and then I'd walk
out again and straight back in for two years. So
when kirstein, I's pretty infuriating after sitting for seven months
of solige confinement to see that little treacherous weasel standing
and lying about free speech. In this country, we free speeches.

(29:30):
We we are in a post free speech era. The
only place in the world with free speeches in the
United States of America. And if if Donald Trump didn't
win this election, you'll probably also be kissing goodbye to
that as well. Because their plan, as in their plan
the global elite and the cabal who are in control
of most of our countries like in Britain, is to
take our freedom, is to put us into enslavement, is

(29:52):
to have us all war on each other, which is
what's happened with us. The only thing is they can't
do it silently anymore because we now have social media platforms.
I'm still center from all the others again, thanks to
Ela Musque, thanks to shows like Yourself, we get to tell.

Speaker 8 (30:04):
Our story, but you hear my story.

Speaker 6 (30:06):
But you know how many British patriots there are rotten
away in prison cells for their speech, Johnny. People were
locked up for their speech for someone was locked up
for their posts. Lucy Connley is serving thirty one months
in prison for a Facebook post. A Facebook post a
mother of English girls during the riots when children are
butchered to death in Southport by Axel Ruda Kabana. The

(30:31):
mother is now rotten away for thirty one months in prison.
And the audacity of Keir Starmer to continuely lie and
smile on TV about free speech in this country. We're
fighting for free speech, Jesse. We're fighting for it and
if they want to take it, the entire world's going
to know about it. On the thirteenth of September, I'll
give you an invite any journalists from America. We have

(30:51):
an organization called United Kingdom. We are going to show
the world the largest gathering of patriots this country has
ever seen. In our capital Sea. We're having a festival
of free speech. We have guest speakers coming from many
European political parties. Jordan Peterson's coming and we are fighting back.
Let's put it that way in the country, Jessee, so
people can understand the mood of this nation. It has swung.

(31:14):
There is a revolution brewing in Great Britain. I've been
in this activism and journalism for fifteen years. I've got
my finger on the pulse. The cat is out of
the bag, the dam has burst. People were scared into
silence for so long, not anymore. Your imprisonment doesn't work,
your threats don't work, your intimidation doesn't work. The fear
of the future of our country, the fear of the

(31:36):
safety of our daughters, is far more important. And that
is what they've jeopardized. Their importation of cultures which we
will not integrate or assimilate with hostile cultures who with
intolerable views of women that they've imported. And the cat's
out in the bag of it with the British public.
The British public will awake now more.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Niver September thirteenth, Tommy, I'm just have to make a
little trip across the pond for that one.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Give me that information. Brother, is going to be.

Speaker 6 (32:07):
The biggest event, and we are going to send a
message to the establishment on behalf of the world that
we're united for free speech. Do you know the ripple
coming out of America since Donald Trump got in, That's
The only thing that's care of us. Inspiration inspired us
as well is watching the speech of Donald Trump, listening
to J. D. Barnes, listening to Elon Musk and the
fight for free speech. And hopefully they're going to school

(32:28):
our tyrannical leaders over here to give back freedom to
the people.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Domie beers on me when I get over there, brother.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
I'll see you all right. I might not have to
go to that.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Kind of ruin for a fight anyway. We'll think about that.
Let's talk to Alex Maril little next about the lawfare
in this country. Before we talk to Alex, you know
what else, I'm gonna bring Tommy fresh.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Bottle of olive oil.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
You know the olive oil over there all the rest
of the food does. So I I go to farm
Fresh two four six dot com. I get all of
oil fresh from a farm. Tommy doesn't know what that's like.
He just got out of solitary confinement. I'm about to
introduce him to the best food in the world, because
when you change your olive oil, your meals come alive.

(33:21):
You don't have to believe me. You can think him
full of garbage. Go get a free bottle. They'll send
you a thirty nine dollars bottle free. You just pay
you like a buck. Cover the ship farm Fresh two
four six dot com.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
You'll never go anywhere else. We'll be back. I know
this sounds bizarre. It sounds like I said this five
years ago.

Speaker 8 (33:48):
You'd locked me up.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
You gotta lock him.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Up, doesn't. It seemed like everything accelerated in the last
ten to fifteen years, and maybe this I mean most
of this, a lot of it goes back to Obama,
but then of course Biden so brain dead, he accelerated
things to I want you to understand, especially if you're young,

(34:14):
that that's not a thing that presidents have said before.
Joining me now, Alex Marlowe, author of the book Breaking
the Law, which that's probably one you should probably pick
up right about now, is we can't forget what they've done.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Alex.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
I know the Russia hoax is dominating the headlines right now,
but I really don't want us to move past how
evil these people were with the Justice Department and the
various means at their disposal while Joe Biden was president.

Speaker 7 (34:43):
Yeah, Jesse, thanks again for the support for the book
and having on the show. You start at a perfect spot.
President should not say that about the standard bearers of
the opposite political party, that we're going to lock them up.
I know this in the book. We blew through this
because Biden's a idiot and we hate Biden and Biden stupid.
Just the outopen. We can't do that. That's not okay.
You can't say that we're going to lock up our

(35:03):
political opponents in first world countries. If you believe in democracy,
you can't stand for that stuff and bind need it repeatedly.
His entire inner circle believed that Donald Trump would be
in jail for the twenty twenty four election. That's a fact.
And you could tell because they were the ones orchestradient.
And this is one of the things that I went
through in the book. I went case by case with
the six major cases against Trump, and in every case

(35:25):
there is a deep connection to the White House, to
the very top. I'm happy to go into.

Speaker 8 (35:29):
That with you.

Speaker 7 (35:29):
But your connection to the Russian collusion hoax is important
here because the Russian collusion hoax gave rise to the
one case that got criminal convictions against Donald Trump, the
Stormy Daniel's case. The only reason why they got a
conviction was because they had testimony and evidence from Michael Cohen,
a rat who rated on his own client, Donald Trump,
and they were turned on to Cohen as a potential

(35:50):
key witness because of what the Muller probe the Russian
collusion hoax, and the DOJ got access to his Gmail.
So if we'd held people to account for the Russian
collusion hoax would have been none of the lawfair that
was used by Joe Biden's White House to try to
brig the election.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Alex.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
I'd like to think that people who who read your
books who watch the show are a little bit more
in the know than others. And of course they are,
but I think most people sat up in their chair
when they just heard you say six cases.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Yeah, I want to hear about it.

Speaker 7 (36:19):
Ye six cases, yeah, thank you. And this is one
of the things is that unless you're Donald Trump, then
we're even aware there were six cases. Could you keep
the six cases straight? I'll tell you. I'm editor in
chief of bright Barn News. I podcast on a daily
basis like you, and I didn't know all the details
and which one was which If you quizzed me before,
was this the Stormy Daniels case? Is this the Egen

(36:39):
Carrol case. Is this a Jack Smith case? I would
have known all the details, and I try to do
this in a way so lay people can understand the
extent of the coordination and the conspiracy that was done
by the Lawfaer superstructure in this country to try to
jail and bankrupt Donald Trump in the middle of the election.
Let me go through some of the cases. With the
Stormy Daniels case. This is the one with Alvin brad

(37:00):
where Alvin Bragg brought in a ringer from the DOJ,
a guy named Matthew Colangelo, the number three guy in
Biden's Justice department, brought him in to a JV job
in the Manhattan District District Court. This is the same
as taking someone from the center field at a Yankee
Stadium and telling them to coach little league and them
taking that job. Why would they do this? So there's
coordination between the White House and this lower court and

(37:22):
they get the conviction. Fannie Willis the Rico case. Fannie Willis.
She gets her boyfriend Nathan Wade, who is a family
lawyer Jesse. He's doing divorces and pre nups and he's
on the case. All of a sudden, he's getting eight
hour a day White House visits. What do you think
they're talking about over there? They talk about divorces. No,
they're talking about the Donald Trump case that he's working on.

(37:43):
The Jack Smith cases. They're two of those. Jack Smith
was unconstitutional appointed by Merrick Garland, but he got to
operate with impunity for eighteen months, leaking to the Washington
Post all the time. A guy who is he was
one of those characters Jesse that left the country when
Trump won the first time. He went to the Hague
to work at the International Criminal Court. He's one of
the guys said that we're done with America and he left.
They bring him back in order to have an unconstitutional

(38:06):
job where he's allowed us to try to destroy Donald
Trump for eighteen months. When it finally dawns on people,
he shouldn't even be here. The Egen Carol case, this
is the one where Trump was It's a defamation case,
but they talk about it being some sort of a
of a rape, or maybe it wasn't a rape. That
is the most absurd case in the book. I guarantee
you when your audience reads my telling of the case,
they will laugh at it because it's so absurd. Quarterback

(38:28):
by Reid Hoffman, the LinkedIn billionaire who is a frequent
White House guest, A guy who said Joe Biden could
be an effective president into his nineties. He said, into
his nineties, Biden can be effective. That's the guy he
paid for that case. And of course the kiss James case.
Clamber's in the White House all the time, etc. Chuck
Schumer's girlfriend, according to Trump, was actually in charge of
that case. She is the most political actor in all

(38:50):
of this. It just goes on and on.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
It's so vast, it is so vast, it's such a
tangled weapon.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Like these are stories that I've brought up.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
I know you see right about them all the time
at the wonderful bright part, But even then you forget
because it's a new scandal after a new scandal after
a new scandal, and they're all so intertwined. Alex, Why
wasn't why wasn't any of this stopped when they tried
to do it? Maybe I have an unbelievably naive view
of my wonderful country, but I thought we had things

(39:20):
put into place so this couldn't happen in the United
States of America.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Am I just dumb.

Speaker 7 (39:27):
Well, this is what the left figured out, and why
the Jack Smith appointment is really illustrative is because they
figured out that they can do stuff that's illegal, but
it might take eighteen months to get sorted out in courts.
Takes a long time to do this. Think about even
if you're a true crime fan, think about a murder
case you followed where you know the guy did it,
but it takes four years to get the conviction and
then takes even longer for the penalties to get served.

(39:48):
And the Left is understood this, and they have understood
that they can shut down the agenda. They can harass people,
they can bankrupt people, they can make it so that
their lives are ruined with onerous legal proceedings to be
expensive just by merely accusing them of certain things. And
this is something that is a hack to the system
to try to slow down good people who would rather
be at home with their families and not dealing with

(40:10):
all this stuff. You've to have someone with unbelievable rhinoceros
hide like Donald Trump to survive some of it. It's corrupt,
but we have to fight back against it, and it's
going to take an engaged citizenry, who's going to pressure
our lawmakers to make changes and make sure that we're
not missing the opportunity to vote out all the bad guys.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Donald Trump, as you mentioned, was convicted. He was convicted
in New York, terrible case. Why can't we undo all
that that was so unjust? Is it just the fact
that they control that entire state top to bottom and
he's just screwed there.

Speaker 7 (40:42):
Yeah. So one of the things that Judge Marshawn, who
is the left wing judge in that case, who is
a Biden donor, which is illegal, and his daughter was
one of the biggest Biden fundraisers period, raised about one
hundred million dollars for Democrats during that election cycle. An
amazing conflict of interest. I'm shocked that that's legal. It
might be legal, which is shocking to me, but it
might be. But one of the things he did, which
was very clever, is that he upheld the convictions, but

(41:03):
he gave President the president basically, you know, to facto
time serve as a sentence to try to discourage an appeal.
Trump will appeal to us. But I think that detail
I gave you earlier that this would not have happened.
This case would not have existed if not for the
fake Russian collusion hoax that now we've learned one hundred
times over was built on nothing. I think, just on
that alone, it should be thrown out. But it's a process,

(41:24):
and it's a process that Donald Trump does not need
to go through, but he should, and I think he will.
But it's only to save his own name. But we've
gotten very comfortable in this country letting people's names get
dragged through the mud and destroyed. There used to be
honor here, at least I was told there was, but
now there's not. Now you're just allowed to sell y
people's names with no consequence or repercussions, either personally or professionally.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
I wish more people knew the name Lis Samnico, Alex
It's one of those names that you know, insiders know,
political nerds like you and me know, but.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
A lot of people don't.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
This evil, vile, little communist has been worming her way
through power in this country for.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
A long time.

Speaker 7 (42:01):
Yeah, Lisa Monico and her right hand Venita Gupta were
really the two bad guys in the DOJ. Merrick Garland
was sort of a face of it. Everyone says he's
a nice guy, and he was in way over his head.
Think about it. Where he came from. He was a
circuit judge in DC, and he'd an office of like
nine people. And then now he's running the DOJ and

(42:24):
he's got over one hundred thousand employees. He's got far
more offices than people he was running, and so he's
not really doing it. The people who are really pulling
the strings there are Lisa Monico and the Associate Attorney
General Venita Gupta. These people are card carrying members of
the law fair superstructure. They live to destroy Donald Trump.
That's what they were all about. Monica was reliable Biden crony.

(42:45):
She was overseeing Trump in the j six cases, trying
to bag all the Jick six prisoners, which of course
I try to go through in the book, all the
injustices done to them. That is who she is. She's
a part of the institutional left. And I'll tell you
when I talked to Trump about the these cases, and
which I did on a number of times, he's forthcoming
with me that he thinks she's really the bad guy.

(43:06):
Andrew Weisman, who is the main spokesman for all of
these anti Trump lawsuits on cable news, close friend of
Lisa Monico, clear coordination with her and the media establishment
that was pushing these illegitimate cases as legitimate.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
He's Alex Marlowe. The book is breaking the law. Go
pick it up.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
We can't let these we can't forget what these people
have done. Alex, thank you, my brother. I appreciate it.
We need a light in the mood next. Okay, so
we have a bit of a different light in the

(43:46):
mood today. It's more of like a light in my load,
meaning I've got to get something off my chest. I'm
sure it's going to be offensive, but by now you're
used to that on this show. We just announced. We
just had an announcement for Major League Baseball. There is
going to be the first ever female umpire. The Boston
Red Sox had yesterday the first all female broadcast crew.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
And I just want to point out.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
That in Western civilization, the inability unwillingness of Western men
to tell women no is absolutely killing Western civilization. Women
do not need to be involved in absolutely everything men
are involved in. There's no need for that whatsoever. We
don't have to be inclusive. Men can have their own things.

(44:31):
Women can have their own things and should have their
own things. It's a healthy part of society. But every
namby pamby loser in the United States of America who runs.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
A major corporation or a political party or.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Anything else, somehow feels this obligation whenever women want to
worm their way into man things to say, well, okay,
I mean, I'm very proud women. I'm as pro women
as it gets. I love my wife's cooking. You know what,
I don't want to announce in the freaking baseball game.
I don't want to being an umpire. That's a man's
environment with male players. I want to hear dudes doing

(45:03):
the announcement and dudes doing the umpire.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Ship.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
We don't have to cram women on the navy ships.
We don't have to have them in every single freaking
part of our society. And you know what, we can
say no, it's the easiest word. You see that as
one syllable, no, Hey, I'd like to know. And you
know what, don't be mealy mouthed about it. When they
say why not say cause you're a woman.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
I'll see them am
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