August 12, 2025 • 44 mins
President Trump has federalized Washington DC. Jesse Kelly unpacks what that means. This comes as the FBI and DOJ have made some major moves. Jesse breaks down those moves as well. Joining Jesse on the show is NIH director Jay Bhattacharya to discuss big changes happening. Plus, Buck Sexton breaks down the latest on redistricting efforts.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Trump federalized DC. Let's talk about why that was necessary.
Our government people finally going to go to prison. The
director of the NIH is here. What a show for
you tonight. I'm right. Well, let's get the big news
(00:24):
out of the way first, shall we. Everybody's talking about
it right now. Why did Trump get up today have
this big press conference? Pam Bondi's there, Pete Hegseth behind him,
all the big shots in the room. He got up
and said this.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I'm announcing a historic action to rescue our nation's capital
from crime, bloodshed, bedlam, and squalor and worse. This is
Liberation Day in DC, and we're.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Going to take our capital back.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
We're taking it back under the authorities vested in me
as the President of the United States. I'm officially invoking
Section seventy forty of the District of Columbia Home Rule Act.
You know what that is, and placing the DC Metropolitan
Police Department under direct federal control. And you'll be meeting
the people that will be directly involved with that. Very
(01:19):
good people, but they're tough and they know what's happening,
and they've done it before. In addition, I'm deploying the
National Guard to help re establish law order of public
safety in Washington, d C. And they're going to be
allowed to do their job properly.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Right Why we'll get to the communist motivations for it
and why they're upset. But one of the big reasons
why is well, i'll tell you what. Pause on pause
on that. Remember when we talked about job interviews before,
you and me, I've given you advice on job interviews,
and one of the main things, maybe the main thing,
(02:02):
show up looking nice, dressed up. It doesn't mean, it
doesn't mean you have to have a thousand dollars suit on.
But whatever your best clothes are, dress up. They'll cut
off shorts. No one wants to see your tattoos. Put
on some decent clothes and show up for your job interview.
Why first impressions matter a lot. Appearance matters a lot.
(02:25):
Did you know here's a little historical tidbit. You may
not know. Have you ever been to DC. Even if
you haven't, I know you've seen pictures of it. You
know what parts of it look like? Pretty fancy, right,
all that white marble pillars and these monuments here. Did
you know that was done intentionally by the founders of
this country. Why these were small government people. They didn't
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want DC to be super powerful or anything like that.
They didn't want a kingdom. Why did they intentionally create
something that looked so good? Because they understood for indignitaries
would visit the United States of America, they would visit
our nation's capital, and what they saw when they got
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there matters how you dress, when you show up for
a job interview, for a first date. It doesn't matter,
and anyone who tells you it doesn't is a moron.
It matters that Washington, d C. The capital of our nation,
is a dump, a dangerous dump. Murders through the roof,
higher crime rate than Mexico, freaking city, carjackings, break ins.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
It is a total dump. I won't even take my
family there now. And look Trump, who's about I think
Friday he's going into negotiations with Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
He brought up this exact thing.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
And it's embarrassing for me to be up here. You know,
I'm gonna see Putin.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I'm going to Russia on Friday.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I don't like being up here talking about how unsafe
and how dirty and disgusting this once beautif capital wives.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Impressions matter. I'll tell you something. You know, I want
to go to Turkey one day and stay with me.
You know why I want to go to Turkey because
coming back, just flying through or just flying through, we
had a layover in Istanbul both ways, a layover in Istanbul.
The airport was unbelievable. It was huge, it was nice,
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great food. All the employees were dressed to the nines,
very pleasant. And that impression of Istanbul of Turkey, maybe
we want to go back and visit one day. Impressions matter.
It matters that Washington, d C. And let me expand
this a little bit more. It matters that America's cities,
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our biggest cities, are dumps. It matters that the murder
is high, that there are homeless.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
People everywhere, that people run them up. It does matter.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
And maybe you're sitting there in rural America right now
as I am, and you're saying to yourself, I don't
care about the city, screw the cities. I understand that sentiment.
I grew up in Montana. I get that settlement all
the way. I don't live in New York City or Washington, DC.
I understand it. But in Japan, in Saudi Arabia, in Peru.
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What's on the billboards for America New York, Washington, DC,
Los Angeles. As much as I may love Montana, they're
not putting that on the billboard. The fact that our
cities are a crime ridden, murder phil dump is important.
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It does matter. And I want you to understand something else,
because we're about to get into the Democrat the Communist
motivations for why they're this way. But you know it's
a choice, right. This is something that we don't realize,
we America don't realize because we've gotten used to well,
cities are full of crime. Cities are dirty. Cities are
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full of crime. I probably can't send your daughter there
for the weekend, not without a chaperone. That's what we've
gotten used to. There are cities all over the world
that are sparkling clean. Go to Tokyo one day, way more
people than any city in America. You can put your
wife out on the street and have her walk ten
city blocks at two am on a Saturday night, and
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she'll come back to you safe and sound. There are
cities all across the world that are not dirty. They're
not full of crime, they're not full of murderers. American
cities are because Democrats are evil, crime loving communists and
they've destroyed our cities. Donald Trump is stepping in to
clean up murder and rape and robbery. And today in
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response to this, you saw a lot of.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
This one of the things that we have seen over
and over from the President from his team, you know,
Ctevin Miller saying, it's like Bagdad Piopia.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
They seem to hold.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Their harshest criticisms some times for cities that are majority
black and brown.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Chris, to be honest with you, I'm trying to hold
my temper. I think there's an ongoing argument that he's
having in his head with Black Lives Matter. There's an
ongoing argument that he's having with the questions around criminal
justice reform and police reform. It's interesting that he really
doesn't really care about what's actually happening in DC on
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a certain level because he's not trying to get it
to underlying root causes.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Well, the root causes, the root causes. It wasn't just MSNBC.
It's been Democrat after Democrat, media channel after media channel.
This was CNN and it just.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
As we go to break. I should note that The
most violent moment in recent history in DC was January sixth,
and it was an attack on the United States Capital
by a lot of people who are doing it in
the name of Donald Trump, and the people who were
hurt included members of law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
That's an insane person. So why are they doing that today,
telling out right ridiculous lies like that? Why the response
to this, Well, this is where we dig into communism
and what they want. First of all, remember something, we
don't have democrats in America anymore. We have communists. That's
what they are. And once you understand that's what they are,
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then you can move from there and understand why they
say and do what they do. In the Soviet Union
during their revolution, when the Bolsheviks were having their revolution,
trying to conquer the government, trying to win, did you
know they opened up the prison doors. And not just
a couple either. There were political prisoners, yes, but they
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said no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, get the
keys and open up the doors for everybody. Why would
you do that? Those prisons were full of like all
prisons are full of murderers and rapists and thieves. Why
would you want them on the streets? But they actually
took an extra step. In the Soviet Union, they turned
loose to murderers and the rapists and the thieves. And
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then tell me if any of this sounds familiar. They
put into place judges and the like prosecutors who would
protect the murderers and rapists and thieves. One story I've
told you before about a thief pulling a knife on
a military veteran. The military veteran disarms him, hurts him.
The military veteran was thrown in the gulag. For that.
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The criminals are to be protected, the good people who
try to stop them are to be thrown in prison.
None of the sounds familiar, does it? So why is
it communists do this? Why did they do this in
the Soviet Union? In New York City, in Washington, d C.
And Los Angeles, and city after city after city, Because well,
think about a family, happy, stable family, mom, dad, kids, happy,
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content stable. You want to break that family up, you
want to destroy it. You're trying to have a revolution.
Introduce a violent dog into the home. Go adopt some
deranged pit bull or something like that starts biting everybody,
tearing up the furniture. Is that going to in some
way destabilize what was a stable home. Communists love violent
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criminals for the exact same reason. A stable, happy, content
society will not embrace an evil communist revolution, but a
society where people are afraid will destabilization. That is the
name of the game. While the revolution is ongoing. They
want destabilization. And this is why I have to step
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in here now and have a conversation with you. And
it's not my job to police your words, but please
stop using the term soft on crime. I still see
so many people on the right using this term. They're
soft on crime, These soft on crime das. It's Democrats
soft on crime policies. They're not soft on crime. They
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want people murdered. When the Democrat judge and the Democrat
da set the serial rapists loose from joh and he
goes and rape some fifty year old woman, they're not
sitting around saying, oh, dang it, I thought he turned
his life around. I was just being soft on crime.
They wanted her raped. They want you robbed, they want
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you assaulted, they want you murdered, they want your daughter raped.
They're not soft on crime. They're pro crime. They've done this.
Democrats have done this to America's cities on purpose. And
as long as we play this.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Game of make believe where it's a whoops us spilled
of milk we did some crime, then we can never
formally take on these communists in a way that will win.
We have violent crime in our cities because Democrats want
violent crime in the cities.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
They are pro murdered, pro rape, pro robbery. And this
brings me to what Donald Trump did. He had to
d no choice. This is where we're at now, a
terrible set of circumstances. We now have to have big
Daddy government step in to stop innocent people from being murdered.
(12:22):
I didn't want it to be this way. Trump mentioned
New York, and we might have to do the same
thing in Chicago, and maybe he will have to if
he can legally do so. And that's not what I want.
I assume that's not what you want. But this is
what happens when you allow the communists to take over
our cities and they turn the jos loose. Eventually somebody
with a heavy hand is going to have to step in.
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Just please understand this. It's the most important part of
this entire thing. Violent crime is what Democrats want, and
it's why they're so angry that he's going to step
in today and clean it up. When they look at
more murders in Washington, d C. For one hundred thousand
people than really virtually any other city on the planet,
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they're not bummed about it. They're thrilled. And it's also why,
as you see your liberal am Peggy citing the crime
stats going down, it's also why they moved to conquer
every single government agency they could. What that does is
it gives them the legitimacy of the lie. You see,
if you want violent crime to go up in DC,
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you know that's not going to be popular, So you
simply put communists in place all over the police department
who will lie about the violent crime, thus giving the
media members and Democrats cover to say violent crime has
gone down, when really we just had an article out
last week where we discovered the commanders in Washington, d C.
The police commanders routinely show up on the job and
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talk people out, talk their officers out of reporting crime.
The way it is, it's all a lie because they
want you murdered and they just don't want you to know.
That's what they want all that may have made you uncomfortable,
but I am right now. It's not just gonna be
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the thugs and gangbangers arrested in DC. According to some people,
it's going to be government people. We'll talk about that
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be back. Okay, let's talk about cleaning out the government,
and it's time to hand out some credit where credit
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is due. You know, I don't exactly hesitate to attack
the right to attack the GOP when I see weakness
and failure, and obviously you don't have to look hard
to find that in the GOP. But when they're doing good,
we should be pointing that out as well. I believe
that is the right thing to do. Now, let's talk
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about the federal government before we get to some specifics FBI,
CIA and otherwise. As you know, the federal government was
weaponized against the right in horrible ways under Obama and
then especially it got put into hyperdrive under Joe Biden.
How did they do that? Why did they do that? Well?
They did that by filling up the government with communists.
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The saying is as old as time, personnel as policy,
personnel's policy. How many times have you heard that was
a fact. If you fill up the government with committed
communists who hate Republicans, then you're inevitably wherever you put
those committed communists, you're going to have that organization attacking
Republicans and protecting Democrats. Barack Obama worked very hard during
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his eight years to put those people into place all
over the government. Joe Biden got to drive the sports
car that Barack Obama built and turn the federal government
loose on the right in every possible way. It's probably
the most evil thing I've ever seen from the government
in the United States of America. And that's saying something.
So we have you know, Cash Betel dan Bonngino taking
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over the FBI. Well, they may be in charge, but
just because you're sitting in the big office in the
big suite, doesn't mean you are firmly in control of everything.
When you have a multi thousand person something like thirty
five thousand employees, thousands of employees underneath you, with manager
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after manager after manager who's a commissar, it's going to
take work to get them out. And unlike the private sector,
sadly you can't fire these freaking people. It takes forever,
but they are getting rid of them. Brian Driscoll, Brian
Driscol is a piece of trash. Brian drisk was gone.
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Steve Jensen, he was a senior agent at the FBI,
really heading up the persecution of the January six ers.
Remember how the FBI would hunt down people, pound on
their doors, sending swat teams after peaceful people. Yeah, he's
gone too. Walter Gardna fired. You remember Peter Navarro, Peter
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Navarro who came on this show several times. Peter Navarro,
Peter Navarro offered through his attorney. He lived right by
the FBI. He told the FBI, if you're gonna come
get me, I didn't do anything, but let me know,
I'll come turn myself in. The FBI said no, no, no, no, no,
we're not interested, and then they grabbed him and cuffed
him in the jetway of an airport to humiliate him.
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On top of everything else, the guy who did that's
gone too again. We have to hand out credit where
credit is due, and I realize we have a very,
very long way to go, but that we are cleaning
out the commissars is a good thing that we should
feel good about. Give yourself some wins. Don't succumb to
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the cynicism. I do this all the time too. Well,
it's not enough, that's not enough. We have more to go.
This should go to jail with it. And I'm not
saying you're wrong about any of that. I agree it's
not enough. More should go to jail, More should be fired.
It's not enough, but at something, not just the FBI. Honestly,
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maybe more frightening than the FBI is what has happened.
It's Central Intelligence Agency with America's intelligence agency spy agency
that isn't even supposed to operate domestically, starts operating domestically
on behalf of Democrats and against Republicans. It's a big deal.
So when you see segments like this on MSNBC, it
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really should put a smile on your face.
Speaker 7 (19:18):
Brian Driscoll became something of a folk hero, as you mentioned,
when he was named the acting director accidentally by the
way his name was put in the wrong place and
a chart. And then he stood up to a plan
by the Trump administration that seemed like it was poised
to fire hundreds, if not thousands, of FBI agents who
had worked on those January sixth cases. He resisted that,
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and yet he retained his job and his continued employment
in the bureau as long as well as Jensen and
some of these other people provided a little bit of
hope that it was possible to dissent from some aspect
of Trump administration policy, or at least to push back
and keep your job.
Speaker 8 (19:57):
Well that day is over.
Speaker 7 (19:58):
The message has been sent clearly, and morale inside the
FBI guys is about as low as I have ever
heard it described.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
As I talk to people, that's wonderful. Washington Post reporting
CIA officials are leaking that Gabbard is overriding their concerns
FBI cleaning out, Gabbard cleaning it out. And by the
way I brought up the CIA, we have a long
way to go there, because again, it's an organization that
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it's based on lines. It kind of has to be.
Spies don't get to announce their presence when they're doing it,
So you have a bunch of professional trained liars inside
of the building. Tulsey acknowledged as much as what she said.
Speaker 9 (20:41):
John Brennan and James Clapper as leaders in the intelligence community,
they have their own disciples. They have a lot of
their own people that they brought in with them or
that they you know, mentored in a mirroring of their
own image, and many of those people still exist within
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the intelligence community. Now. Fundamentally, we are working towards making change,
institutional change. This is a major area of focused from
the institutional change that will undo the infrastructure that people
like John Brennan and James Clapper built that allowed these
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bad actors to thrive and to be promoted into very
very powerful positions within the intelligence community.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
That's infrastructure she's talking about. That's what we mentioned earlier
from Barack Obama. They put into place a communist infrastructure
system where if you proved yourself to be a loyal commissar,
you would get promoted. And now we have to get
the criminals out. And look, people are doubtful. Honestly, I'm
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doubt that we're going to see indictments and arrests just
because we've never seen them. These criminals always get away
with it. But I keep getting more and more hopeful
as we keep getting bigger and bigger, people saying they're coming,
They're coming, They're coming. It's not a small deal that
the Vice President of the United States of America is
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saying this.
Speaker 10 (22:22):
I absolutely want to see indictments, Maria.
Speaker 8 (22:24):
Look, of course, you've got to have the law follow.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
The facts here.
Speaker 10 (22:27):
You don't just indict people to indict people. You indict
people because they broke the law. But if you look
at what Tulsa and cash Betel have revealed in the
last couple of weeks, I don't know how anybody can
look at that and say that there wasn't aggressive violations
of the law. And I absolutely think they broke the law.
You're going to see a lot of people get indicted
for that.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
A lot of people getting indicted. That means a lot,
and it means a lot because I don't think the
Vice President of the United States of America puts that
drops that hot potato in Pam Bondi's lap unless he's
been given assurances that there's something there. We've had Tulsey
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Gabbert come out and say it's time. Vice President, it's time.
It's all these big shots keep saying it's time. Very clearly.
They think they have something. I think they do. Put
a smile on your face. All right, let's talk to
doctor Jay, shall we the NIH director. Before we talk
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I'm not gonna sit here, as you know, and praise
COVID or the COVID response in this in this country,
everybody knows that's not exactly something I'm going to do.
But oftentimes in life, something I've learned in my forty
four years is there are good things that can come
from bad things. Without COVID, this country ridiculous response to it.
I dare say, we probably wouldn't have the great doctor J.
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Battacharia as the head of the NIH. And it blesses
me to no end that that's where he sits. Doctor J.
Be honest with you, though the DIGS have to be
way worse than it was at Stanford. It was. It's
a lower standard of living, isn't it.
Speaker 11 (25:20):
I mean I did have to take a sixty percent
pay cut, which was fine, and then yeah, I do
miss that. I miss California. But you know, this job
has its perks. There's a lot of amazing scientists, and
I get to learn a lot about, you know, sort
of how they're working to make America healthy. So there's that.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Okay. Tell me, by the way, speaking of making America healthy,
tell me about canceling five hundred million dollars in funding
for m r n A. I don't know if we're
still calling them vaccines or not. What is it? What
happened there? Can you explain it? Please? Sure?
Speaker 11 (25:52):
So we have had ever since, you know, basically twenty
twenty one of Nextuly twenty twenty even a big investment
in producing mRNA technology basically for vaccines, mainly for the
COVID vaccine. And we've kept this investment up even as
the uptake of the COVID vaccine has like just declined
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very sharply, Like I think six four sixty percent of
Americans said that they adult Americans said they never take
another mr and A shot again. If we're going to
invest in vaccines, we need a technology that's broadly accepted
by the American people. It can't just be like a
minority of people want it. So instead, what we're doing
is we're transitioning away from this platform of mr ANDA
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where there's been so much sort of I mean, because
of the because of the pandemic and especially all the
mandates and all and the sort of the false representations
that the vaccine can stop you from getting and spreading COVID,
people have lost trust sort of legitimately. So we're transitioning
away from that toward other technologies that are much more promising.
For like there's, for instance, there's a project that I
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just heard about for maybe pretend to get being a
flu shot that actually works once and you never have
to take it again. If that actually works out, think
about that. I guess a safe vaccine that doesn't you
never needed the flu shot again. There's a whole bunch
of like promising technologies we're gonna invest it instead. So
that's the main thing we're doing. We're transitioning away from
this mRNA technology as a platform for vaccines toward other
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more promising technologies. At the same time, we're going to
keep looking to see if we can be it can
be made better to work for cancer and other things.
We're not getting rid of the technology altogether.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Doctor Donald Trump's former Surgeon General Jerome Powell. Okay, well,
this is what he said.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
For folks who may not be familiar though.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Margaret.
Speaker 12 (27:42):
mRNA stands for messenger mRNA. It's a natural molecule that's
in all of our bodies. These are advances that are
not going to happen now. People are going to die
because we're cutting short funding for this.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Techniquey doctor, I guess we don't have to go into
the details of that. But it was so different back
then during COVID than it is now. How much different
is it inside the walls?
Speaker 11 (28:07):
I mean, I wasn't inside that back then, but I
can tell you it's pretty exciting now. He I mean,
doctor Adams, I think is just kind of just do
a little minor petty thing. He's wrong that it's it's
not actually messenger RNA. That the technology, the mRNA technology
is called modified RNA. It's different than the the the
RNA that's in our body. There's in fact, there was
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a whole Nobel Prize awarded for this, so I'm not
sure where he got that wrong. It's also not true
that people are going to die. I mean, I think
the uptake of the COVID vaccine is so low compared
to what it was once was, and COVID itself has
has transformed into something for the vast majority of people
much milder than it was, you know, saying twenty twenty,
and so we just I think he's just like I
think he's living in twenty twenty, seems to me. And
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inside the walls, I just sense hope and optimism. What
I see is a lot of like optimism that the
new technologies are coming out, that we're actually we got
rid of all the DEI grants, We got rid of
all the the sort of the politicization of this agency
toward things that are actually might have a chance of
advancing American health. I mean, if we if we just
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do our mission right, our mission for the NIH is
support research that improves the health and longevity the American people.
I mean, that's that's the spirit I'm approaching this job,
and that's the spirit I think that most people here
now are moving forward with.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Doctor. We saw obviously in recent years, so many of
our institutions, institutions that the American people previously trusted, prove
themselves to be untrustworthy to put it as mildly as
I possibly can. But we have to earn that trust back.
I mean, look, putting doctor j in charge helps, but
it doesn't earn the trust all the way back. Now
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people sneer, they roll their eyes when they hear things
things like CDC and ih, how do we how do
we how do we get that trust back?
Speaker 11 (29:56):
I mean, first, I think it's very important that we
admit our errors right there. I mean, look, what what
happened during the pandemic was was just a travesty justin you.
You know, you covered it as well as anybody. I mean,
you had me on the on the show when I
was canceled, so that I mean that that that definitely
helped me a lot. I think that we have to
just start there with say, look, here are the mistakes
we made, and here are the concrete steps we're taking
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to to to solve that problem. Right So, I'll give
you one example that that I'm quite proud of that
President Trump did a couple of months ago, he signed
an executive order saying that there was not going to
be any more dangerous gain to function research funded by
the US government. You know, it's quite possible that some
of this research that unfortunately that the NIH funded, this
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might have contributed to the causing of the pandemic. Certainly
was dangerous research. When President Trump signs that executive order, says, look,
we're not going to do this kind of dangerous research.
We're going to instead focus on research that might advance
your health if we do it right. That's a concrete step.
You can point to that and say, look, we've taken
an action to protect the American public from dangerous things
and move towards things that are that are really worthwhile.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
We have to we have to do both. We have to.
Speaker 11 (31:04):
We have to say we have to. They have to
take concrete actions to acknowledge and fix the things that
came before that were problematic, and then actually have to
produce like if we we have to we have to
solve all the Alzheimer's crisis. We have to solve the
obesity crisis. We have to cure type one diabetes, type
two diabetes. We have to actually there's a there's a
big advance, for instance, in sickle cell anemia. They're now
a cure for it. Things things like that where we
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look and say, look, we actually are doing things that
are useful for our health. We're not going to use
our power to win some social justice war where yeah,
we remove DEI from our portfolio because it wasn't advancing
the health of anybody. Is politicizing science things like that.
That's it has to It's going to take concrete action,
it's going to take time, and most of all, it's
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going to take humility. I'm not here to lord over people.
I mean, I view the work of scientists and a
public health as servants of the people. That that spirit
is the key to making how uh the American people
trust us again.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
It's nice that we have organizations that are no longer partisan.
But doctor, when I hear you talk about tackling obeeda obesity,
couldn't that be interpreted as really something that helps democrats?
Speaker 11 (32:15):
I think it would help everybody, But I mean it
certainly could help me a little more. If if I
could say I could stand to use a few lose
a few, I think, you know, the key thing is
scientific advances are inherently that advance health. They are inherently
not political. They're inherently not political. That if you have
a scientific advance that gives you tools to make your
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life better, then it's not a democratic thing or Republican thing,
ideally right, ideally, Uh, the NIH should be seen as
a resource for all Americans. I think if you look
back the past past few years, I think the way
that the NIH got used it was often a tool
for the Democratic Democratic Party that they would call themselves
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the Party of Science and try to make some contracts
with Republicans, as if the Republicans weren't also the Party
of science. Science has no partisanship if it's ideally done.
Ideally science is as is the common heritage of all people,
and if we do things right, we can get answers
that help people solve their most thorny health problems. You
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put up thus science, There's no such thing as thus science.
Science is a process for discovering how physical reality works,
and our job is to translates that physical reality so
that it addresses the most basic needs of everybody, not partisan.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
It's so refreshing to have you there. I'm so happy
for you, doctor Jay. We will break bread soon when
I get back there. I appreciate you, sir. There are
no reps in this game.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
The rules.
Speaker 13 (33:53):
We are gonna win. Whatever it takes. We're gonna take
this to them in every way that we can.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Next time we win.
Speaker 13 (34:01):
Power, we're gonna drive that car like we stole it.
We're gonna legalize every dreamer, every dreamer's parents, every hard
working American doing backbreaking work that makes this country so
great in the first place, even greater as us citizens.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
What is what the cussing? And I realized we beeped
it all out there. But you can use your imagination
on what he said. The cussing now from Democrats all
the time, joining me, now you know what I'm asking
Buck about that? Joining me now, host of course of
the Clay and Buck Show. Everybody knows them, my friend Buck,
Sexton Buck. There are a lot of theories that are
getting tossed around. We'll get to the redistricting stuff in
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a minute. About the cussing Democrats do. Now, it's always
F this and F that, and F this and F that,
Whereas I mean, for most of our lives, buddy, we
never heard either party say this. Why.
Speaker 14 (34:53):
It's because people have started to do the math and
look at the science. I think Jesse and understand and
that there's a clear correlation between low age adjusted testosterone
in Democrat men and being left wing.
Speaker 8 (35:09):
So this is a compensation. It's absolutely true.
Speaker 14 (35:11):
By the way, you if you are a low te
beta male, the chance that you are very left wing
in your politics is incredibly high.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Uh.
Speaker 14 (35:21):
And I think that they believe that by cursing, it
makes them look tough, makes them look like they've got
But really what it makes them look like is the
kid who's got like the beginnings of a mustache in.
Speaker 8 (35:32):
Junior year of high school, who's like deestrict Dubai beer,
who's like, yeah, like look at my mustache, Like you
can trust me, you don't need my id.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Uh.
Speaker 14 (35:40):
That's that's the pathetic level that democrats have sung to
here and Beto O'Rourke, by the way, has this guy
ever had a real job? I mean, I really asked
that he married a rich lady. By the way, I
don't think he's ever had a real job. I promise
you he's never been in any kind of actual fistfighter altercation.
But he gets up there and does this fake tough
guy I want to be Texan act, and.
Speaker 8 (36:01):
It's just it's sad.
Speaker 14 (36:03):
He's a little trust fund brat, or at least someone
else's trust fund that he gets to attach himself to.
And I hope he runs on the open borders message.
I hope he runs on telling Americans, you know what,
we need ten million more dependents, ten million more people
scamming the system.
Speaker 8 (36:17):
Don't you love crowded ers.
Speaker 14 (36:19):
And schools where English is a second language is more
popular than actually teaching English.
Speaker 8 (36:24):
Yeah, that's great run off that.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I'm actually glad you brought this up. I find this
fascinating because there's always been an element of when you're
running in a primary, Republican or Democrat, you're gonna have
to say some things or take some positions that may
turn off kind of the normy morons who vote one
way or the other. But there's that normal thing, and
then there's what Democrats have now, where you have to
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take the twenty percent side of every single eighty twenty
issue or you can't gain popularity in the party. But
all the normies out there are never going to vote
for that, and they all, I mean, Chuck Schumer has
had to move way way to the left, not that
he wasn't always a lefty, way to the left just
to avoid getting primaried by AOC. To be a Democrat today,
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you have to take insane positions that means you can't
get elected. How do they get out of that minefield.
Speaker 14 (37:15):
I'm actually surprised that they haven't had that moment yet
where they start to they start to change course here
or start to maybe, you know, cut away the anchors
that are pulling them down to the to the ocean floor,
because that's exactly what's going on, especially with things like Okay, yeah,
you can keep telling us that that a two hundred
(37:36):
pound guy who now has grown his hair out long
and painted his fingernails doesn't have an advantage over you know, Susie,
Sally and and Sarah in the you know, high school
lacrosse team.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
But we're sick of.
Speaker 14 (37:50):
Being lied to, like it doesn't it doesn't matter how
often you repeat this. We can all see that you're
out of your mind's Democrats, And I think the issue
is that they've used these so effectively as mobilization tools
for so long, and they also, I think got overconfident
between COVID and the dominance they had with the social
media platforms all colluding with them where they thought they
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could ram delusion into our brains across the country. And
now they're dealing with the backlash from that, which is
it turns out half the country does not want to
act like they're they're truly insane, maybe a little more
than half the country. And that's a problem for the Democrats.
And I think it's probably more like a seventy seventy
or as you said, to twenty percent, so an eighty
twenty issue. I don't know how they walk away from
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this still, because the activist class and the donor class
for the Democrats are the craziest.
Speaker 8 (38:38):
Now, that's that's what people have to understand.
Speaker 14 (38:40):
The lifestyle issues that the billionaires like you know, the
reid Hoffman's of the world are willing to fund have
nothing to do with like the old Democrat Party of
unions and you know, blue collar labor or whatever. No,
it's all race, communism and gender insanity, funded by billionaires
who have never even gotten accuses on their hands.
Speaker 8 (39:01):
From doing anything. I mean, this is what this is
the Democrat Party of today.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah, I'm I'm blown away at how they overcome that,
because it's the donors, like you just pointed out, It's
not just the rabid street animals with the purple hair
on the streets. They're gluing themselves to the highway. The
people who fund the Democrat Party demand they take insane
positions that can't make them win. I just saw pull recently.
(39:27):
I forget what it was, but they were talking about
Democrat donors and they essentially said, these Democrats that are donors,
the billionaires want us to fight Trump harder. That was
the position they take. The billionaire donors are not telling
Democrats to slow down, Jasmine Crockett, take off your eyelashes.
They're not saying these things. They're telling you no, double down,
triple down. So they're just screwed.
Speaker 14 (39:51):
Well, the point of being a billionaire leftist is that
you get to chin wag among your social set, which
is going to be basically other let's just be honest
tech billionaires or you know, inherited money billionaires. You're going
to be able to tell them about how virtuous you
are and what a badass you are by.
Speaker 8 (40:10):
Writing these checks.
Speaker 14 (40:11):
I mean, you look at somebody like, try to get
in the mindset of now Alex.
Speaker 8 (40:15):
Soros it was George Soros before or George Schwartz I
believe was his original name. He changed his name to Soros.
Speaker 14 (40:23):
Try to get in the mind of some of these individuals,
like what does this guy, Alex Soros think he's doing.
He is funding things that make him feel important and brave,
or at least important and tough, because he's a radical.
There's nothing radical about this guy. He's been flying private
his entire life. He's never done a hard day's work
in his life. He's never had to worry about paying
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a bill in his life. But he wants to cosplay
as some kind of revolutionary and by writing checks to
the street communists, as you point out, he's able to
do that, and he's able to act like he somehow
has worth beyond the dollars in the bank account that
he didn't earn. Now you just extrapolate that out for
the entire Democrat donor class, and you see what their
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politics really are. It's the politics of showiness. It's a
politics of self importance dressed up as concern for other people,
because if you're concerned for other people, you certainly wouldn't
be funding like Soros DA's who turn every city into
a healthscape where everyone's being preyed upon by barbarians all
the time.
Speaker 8 (41:24):
But that's what they do.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
I almost forgot Sorows and that beard he married, whatever
her stupid name, is all right, Buck, are we gonna
Are we gonna do okay in the midterms. I feel
like with the redistricting stuff, which I know is not
going to go into effect by them, but with the deportations,
and I feel like we might do okay. But you
and I've had this talk before. Yeah, I know I'm not.
Speaker 8 (41:48):
You know, Clay's the optimistic one, He's the happy one.
I'm the bitter one. So you know, I'm the one.
It's always like, I think we're screwed.
Speaker 14 (41:54):
You know, he loves sports, he's the Clay is like
the you know, he's the He's the golden retriever, and
I'm a little more like the angry bloodhound who's you know,
in the backyard, doesn't want to be bothered.
Speaker 8 (42:06):
I would just say this, I would say I think that.
Speaker 14 (42:09):
I mean, look, we're going to keep the Senate, which
is which is obviously very helpful, very good for judges
and getting people through, although that judicial machinery needs to
work a lot more smoothly than it has been. I
also think that we're going to be in pretty good
shape to hold the House. Actually, this is what I've
been telling everybody. This stuff happened so quickly. As you know, Jesse,
Trump has eighteen months, and look he's moving at at
(42:31):
an incredible pace. I have no complaints about the issues
that they're focusing on, the speed with Blist they're focusing
on it. I had tons of complaints in the first
Trump administration, but they had a clown show making a
lot of the decisions under Trump, so that wasn't really
a surprise.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
It was just, you know, a lot of screw ups.
Speaker 14 (42:46):
You had to fire a lot of people this time around, though,
they are locked in, but they only have eighteen months
maybe less to do big things because then it just
turns into a midterm fight. And the only thing Democrats
will exist to do if they take the House is
be as not just obstructive, because you know, fine, both
parties want to stop the other party as insane as possible.
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Whatever a Democrat majority House can do to be as
crazy as possible.
Speaker 8 (43:10):
Is what they will do.
Speaker 14 (43:11):
So I view it as really existential for the Trump
agenda to maintain the House in the Senate. I think
they can, though as my i'd go as far as
to say I think they will, Jesse.
Speaker 8 (43:21):
I actually think they will, which is unlikely in an
off year election. But look at it. Look at how
Sonny my disposition is today shocking your viewers shock?
Speaker 1 (43:31):
How about that? About that? Now I'm in a good mood.
Thanks Buck, appreciate your brother. Lighten the mood. That's all right.
It is time to lighten the mood. And dogs are
(43:55):
there's something that gets featured regularly on the show for
lightening the mood, because don't they make us all happy?
It's not just yours. When you see a video of
a dog doing something, loving on some sick kid, or
saving somebody from a bear, puts a smile on your face.
Speaker 15 (44:15):
Out out come here, out, Oh my god, I am
(44:43):
glad that dog didn't catch the bear.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
I'll see them
Trump federalized DC. Let's talk about why that was necessary.
Our government people finally going to go to prison. The
director of the NIH is here. What a show for
you tonight. I'm right. Well, let's get the big news
(00:24):
out of the way first, shall we. Everybody's talking about
it right now. Why did Trump get up today have
this big press conference? Pam Bondi's there, Pete Hegseth behind him,
all the big shots in the room. He got up
and said this.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I'm announcing a historic action to rescue our nation's capital
from crime, bloodshed, bedlam, and squalor and worse. This is
Liberation Day in DC, and we're.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Going to take our capital back.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
We're taking it back under the authorities vested in me
as the President of the United States. I'm officially invoking
Section seventy forty of the District of Columbia Home Rule Act.
You know what that is, and placing the DC Metropolitan
Police Department under direct federal control. And you'll be meeting
the people that will be directly involved with that. Very
(01:19):
good people, but they're tough and they know what's happening,
and they've done it before. In addition, I'm deploying the
National Guard to help re establish law order of public
safety in Washington, d C. And they're going to be
allowed to do their job properly.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Right Why we'll get to the communist motivations for it
and why they're upset. But one of the big reasons
why is well, i'll tell you what. Pause on pause
on that. Remember when we talked about job interviews before,
you and me, I've given you advice on job interviews,
and one of the main things, maybe the main thing,
(02:02):
show up looking nice, dressed up. It doesn't mean, it
doesn't mean you have to have a thousand dollars suit on.
But whatever your best clothes are, dress up. They'll cut
off shorts. No one wants to see your tattoos. Put
on some decent clothes and show up for your job interview.
Why first impressions matter a lot. Appearance matters a lot.
(02:25):
Did you know here's a little historical tidbit. You may
not know. Have you ever been to DC. Even if
you haven't, I know you've seen pictures of it. You
know what parts of it look like? Pretty fancy, right,
all that white marble pillars and these monuments here. Did
you know that was done intentionally by the founders of
this country. Why these were small government people. They didn't
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want DC to be super powerful or anything like that.
They didn't want a kingdom. Why did they intentionally create
something that looked so good? Because they understood for indignitaries
would visit the United States of America, they would visit
our nation's capital, and what they saw when they got
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there matters how you dress, when you show up for
a job interview, for a first date. It doesn't matter,
and anyone who tells you it doesn't is a moron.
It matters that Washington, d C. The capital of our nation,
is a dump, a dangerous dump. Murders through the roof,
higher crime rate than Mexico, freaking city, carjackings, break ins.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
It is a total dump. I won't even take my
family there now. And look Trump, who's about I think
Friday he's going into negotiations with Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
He brought up this exact thing.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
And it's embarrassing for me to be up here. You know,
I'm gonna see Putin.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I'm going to Russia on Friday.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I don't like being up here talking about how unsafe
and how dirty and disgusting this once beautif capital wives.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Impressions matter. I'll tell you something. You know, I want
to go to Turkey one day and stay with me.
You know why I want to go to Turkey because
coming back, just flying through or just flying through, we
had a layover in Istanbul both ways, a layover in Istanbul.
The airport was unbelievable. It was huge, it was nice,
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great food. All the employees were dressed to the nines,
very pleasant. And that impression of Istanbul of Turkey, maybe
we want to go back and visit one day. Impressions matter.
It matters that Washington, d C. And let me expand
this a little bit more. It matters that America's cities,
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our biggest cities, are dumps. It matters that the murder
is high, that there are homeless.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
People everywhere, that people run them up. It does matter.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
And maybe you're sitting there in rural America right now
as I am, and you're saying to yourself, I don't
care about the city, screw the cities. I understand that sentiment.
I grew up in Montana. I get that settlement all
the way. I don't live in New York City or Washington, DC.
I understand it. But in Japan, in Saudi Arabia, in Peru.
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What's on the billboards for America New York, Washington, DC,
Los Angeles. As much as I may love Montana, they're
not putting that on the billboard. The fact that our
cities are a crime ridden, murder phil dump is important.
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It does matter. And I want you to understand something else,
because we're about to get into the Democrat the Communist
motivations for why they're this way. But you know it's
a choice, right. This is something that we don't realize,
we America don't realize because we've gotten used to well,
cities are full of crime. Cities are dirty. Cities are
(06:06):
full of crime. I probably can't send your daughter there
for the weekend, not without a chaperone. That's what we've
gotten used to. There are cities all over the world
that are sparkling clean. Go to Tokyo one day, way more
people than any city in America. You can put your
wife out on the street and have her walk ten
city blocks at two am on a Saturday night, and
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she'll come back to you safe and sound. There are
cities all across the world that are not dirty. They're
not full of crime, they're not full of murderers. American
cities are because Democrats are evil, crime loving communists and
they've destroyed our cities. Donald Trump is stepping in to
clean up murder and rape and robbery. And today in
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response to this, you saw a lot of.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
This one of the things that we have seen over
and over from the President from his team, you know,
Ctevin Miller saying, it's like Bagdad Piopia.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
They seem to hold.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Their harshest criticisms some times for cities that are majority
black and brown.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Chris, to be honest with you, I'm trying to hold
my temper. I think there's an ongoing argument that he's
having in his head with Black Lives Matter. There's an
ongoing argument that he's having with the questions around criminal
justice reform and police reform. It's interesting that he really
doesn't really care about what's actually happening in DC on
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a certain level because he's not trying to get it
to underlying root causes.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Well, the root causes, the root causes. It wasn't just MSNBC.
It's been Democrat after Democrat, media channel after media channel.
This was CNN and it just.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
As we go to break. I should note that The
most violent moment in recent history in DC was January sixth,
and it was an attack on the United States Capital
by a lot of people who are doing it in
the name of Donald Trump, and the people who were
hurt included members of law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
That's an insane person. So why are they doing that today,
telling out right ridiculous lies like that? Why the response
to this, Well, this is where we dig into communism
and what they want. First of all, remember something, we
don't have democrats in America anymore. We have communists. That's
what they are. And once you understand that's what they are,
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then you can move from there and understand why they
say and do what they do. In the Soviet Union
during their revolution, when the Bolsheviks were having their revolution,
trying to conquer the government, trying to win, did you
know they opened up the prison doors. And not just
a couple either. There were political prisoners, yes, but they
(08:51):
said no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, get the
keys and open up the doors for everybody. Why would
you do that? Those prisons were full of like all
prisons are full of murderers and rapists and thieves. Why
would you want them on the streets? But they actually
took an extra step. In the Soviet Union, they turned
loose to murderers and the rapists and the thieves. And
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then tell me if any of this sounds familiar. They
put into place judges and the like prosecutors who would
protect the murderers and rapists and thieves. One story I've
told you before about a thief pulling a knife on
a military veteran. The military veteran disarms him, hurts him.
The military veteran was thrown in the gulag. For that.
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The criminals are to be protected, the good people who
try to stop them are to be thrown in prison.
None of the sounds familiar, does it? So why is
it communists do this? Why did they do this in
the Soviet Union? In New York City, in Washington, d C.
And Los Angeles, and city after city after city, Because well,
think about a family, happy, stable family, mom, dad, kids, happy,
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content stable. You want to break that family up, you
want to destroy it. You're trying to have a revolution.
Introduce a violent dog into the home. Go adopt some
deranged pit bull or something like that starts biting everybody,
tearing up the furniture. Is that going to in some
way destabilize what was a stable home. Communists love violent
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criminals for the exact same reason. A stable, happy, content
society will not embrace an evil communist revolution, but a
society where people are afraid will destabilization. That is the
name of the game. While the revolution is ongoing. They
want destabilization. And this is why I have to step
(10:43):
in here now and have a conversation with you. And
it's not my job to police your words, but please
stop using the term soft on crime. I still see
so many people on the right using this term. They're
soft on crime, These soft on crime das. It's Democrats
soft on crime policies. They're not soft on crime. They
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want people murdered. When the Democrat judge and the Democrat
da set the serial rapists loose from joh and he
goes and rape some fifty year old woman, they're not
sitting around saying, oh, dang it, I thought he turned
his life around. I was just being soft on crime.
They wanted her raped. They want you robbed, they want
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you assaulted, they want you murdered, they want your daughter raped.
They're not soft on crime. They're pro crime. They've done this.
Democrats have done this to America's cities on purpose. And
as long as we play this.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Game of make believe where it's a whoops us spilled
of milk we did some crime, then we can never
formally take on these communists in a way that will win.
We have violent crime in our cities because Democrats want
violent crime in the cities.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
They are pro murdered, pro rape, pro robbery. And this
brings me to what Donald Trump did. He had to
d no choice. This is where we're at now, a
terrible set of circumstances. We now have to have big
Daddy government step in to stop innocent people from being murdered.
(12:22):
I didn't want it to be this way. Trump mentioned
New York, and we might have to do the same
thing in Chicago, and maybe he will have to if
he can legally do so. And that's not what I want.
I assume that's not what you want. But this is
what happens when you allow the communists to take over
our cities and they turn the jos loose. Eventually somebody
with a heavy hand is going to have to step in.
(12:44):
Just please understand this. It's the most important part of
this entire thing. Violent crime is what Democrats want, and
it's why they're so angry that he's going to step
in today and clean it up. When they look at
more murders in Washington, d C. For one hundred thousand
people than really virtually any other city on the planet,
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they're not bummed about it. They're thrilled. And it's also why,
as you see your liberal am Peggy citing the crime
stats going down, it's also why they moved to conquer
every single government agency they could. What that does is
it gives them the legitimacy of the lie. You see,
if you want violent crime to go up in DC,
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you know that's not going to be popular, So you
simply put communists in place all over the police department
who will lie about the violent crime, thus giving the
media members and Democrats cover to say violent crime has
gone down, when really we just had an article out
last week where we discovered the commanders in Washington, d C.
The police commanders routinely show up on the job and
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talk people out, talk their officers out of reporting crime.
The way it is, it's all a lie because they
want you murdered and they just don't want you to know.
That's what they want all that may have made you uncomfortable,
but I am right now. It's not just gonna be
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the thugs and gangbangers arrested in DC. According to some people,
it's going to be government people. We'll talk about that
in a moment. Before we talk about that, let me
talk to you about how bland you're olive oil is.
It's bland because of time, just how it goes. You know,
food loses its flavor over time. The olive oil you
(14:36):
buy in the grocery store is bland. You still know
it because it's all you know. It's all I know.
Try one bottle. I'm not selling you some lifetime commitment.
Try one bottle fresh from a farm and you'll be
shocked at the difference. Go to farm Fresh two four
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bottle for free. You pay like a buck to cover
the ship. Farm Fresh two four six dot com will
be back. Okay, let's talk about cleaning out the government,
and it's time to hand out some credit where credit
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is due. You know, I don't exactly hesitate to attack
the right to attack the GOP when I see weakness
and failure, and obviously you don't have to look hard
to find that in the GOP. But when they're doing good,
we should be pointing that out as well. I believe
that is the right thing to do. Now, let's talk
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about the federal government before we get to some specifics FBI,
CIA and otherwise. As you know, the federal government was
weaponized against the right in horrible ways under Obama and
then especially it got put into hyperdrive under Joe Biden.
How did they do that? Why did they do that? Well?
They did that by filling up the government with communists.
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The saying is as old as time, personnel as policy,
personnel's policy. How many times have you heard that was
a fact. If you fill up the government with committed
communists who hate Republicans, then you're inevitably wherever you put
those committed communists, you're going to have that organization attacking
Republicans and protecting Democrats. Barack Obama worked very hard during
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his eight years to put those people into place all
over the government. Joe Biden got to drive the sports
car that Barack Obama built and turn the federal government
loose on the right in every possible way. It's probably
the most evil thing I've ever seen from the government
in the United States of America. And that's saying something.
So we have you know, Cash Betel dan Bonngino taking
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over the FBI. Well, they may be in charge, but
just because you're sitting in the big office in the
big suite, doesn't mean you are firmly in control of everything.
When you have a multi thousand person something like thirty
five thousand employees, thousands of employees underneath you, with manager
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after manager after manager who's a commissar, it's going to
take work to get them out. And unlike the private sector,
sadly you can't fire these freaking people. It takes forever,
but they are getting rid of them. Brian Driscoll, Brian
Driscol is a piece of trash. Brian drisk was gone.
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Steve Jensen, he was a senior agent at the FBI,
really heading up the persecution of the January six ers.
Remember how the FBI would hunt down people, pound on
their doors, sending swat teams after peaceful people. Yeah, he's
gone too. Walter Gardna fired. You remember Peter Navarro, Peter
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Navarro who came on this show several times. Peter Navarro,
Peter Navarro offered through his attorney. He lived right by
the FBI. He told the FBI, if you're gonna come
get me, I didn't do anything, but let me know,
I'll come turn myself in. The FBI said no, no, no, no, no,
we're not interested, and then they grabbed him and cuffed
him in the jetway of an airport to humiliate him.
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On top of everything else, the guy who did that's
gone too again. We have to hand out credit where
credit is due, and I realize we have a very,
very long way to go, but that we are cleaning
out the commissars is a good thing that we should
feel good about. Give yourself some wins. Don't succumb to
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the cynicism. I do this all the time too. Well,
it's not enough, that's not enough. We have more to go.
This should go to jail with it. And I'm not
saying you're wrong about any of that. I agree it's
not enough. More should go to jail, More should be fired.
It's not enough, but at something, not just the FBI. Honestly,
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maybe more frightening than the FBI is what has happened.
It's Central Intelligence Agency with America's intelligence agency spy agency
that isn't even supposed to operate domestically, starts operating domestically
on behalf of Democrats and against Republicans. It's a big deal.
So when you see segments like this on MSNBC, it
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really should put a smile on your face.
Speaker 7 (19:18):
Brian Driscoll became something of a folk hero, as you mentioned,
when he was named the acting director accidentally by the
way his name was put in the wrong place and
a chart. And then he stood up to a plan
by the Trump administration that seemed like it was poised
to fire hundreds, if not thousands, of FBI agents who
had worked on those January sixth cases. He resisted that,
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and yet he retained his job and his continued employment
in the bureau as long as well as Jensen and
some of these other people provided a little bit of
hope that it was possible to dissent from some aspect
of Trump administration policy, or at least to push back
and keep your job.
Speaker 8 (19:57):
Well that day is over.
Speaker 7 (19:58):
The message has been sent clearly, and morale inside the
FBI guys is about as low as I have ever
heard it described.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
As I talk to people, that's wonderful. Washington Post reporting
CIA officials are leaking that Gabbard is overriding their concerns
FBI cleaning out, Gabbard cleaning it out. And by the
way I brought up the CIA, we have a long
way to go there, because again, it's an organization that
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it's based on lines. It kind of has to be.
Spies don't get to announce their presence when they're doing it,
So you have a bunch of professional trained liars inside
of the building. Tulsey acknowledged as much as what she said.
Speaker 9 (20:41):
John Brennan and James Clapper as leaders in the intelligence community,
they have their own disciples. They have a lot of
their own people that they brought in with them or
that they you know, mentored in a mirroring of their
own image, and many of those people still exist within
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the intelligence community. Now. Fundamentally, we are working towards making change,
institutional change. This is a major area of focused from
the institutional change that will undo the infrastructure that people
like John Brennan and James Clapper built that allowed these
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bad actors to thrive and to be promoted into very
very powerful positions within the intelligence community.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
That's infrastructure she's talking about. That's what we mentioned earlier
from Barack Obama. They put into place a communist infrastructure
system where if you proved yourself to be a loyal commissar,
you would get promoted. And now we have to get
the criminals out. And look, people are doubtful. Honestly, I'm
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doubt that we're going to see indictments and arrests just
because we've never seen them. These criminals always get away
with it. But I keep getting more and more hopeful
as we keep getting bigger and bigger, people saying they're coming,
They're coming, They're coming. It's not a small deal that
the Vice President of the United States of America is
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saying this.
Speaker 10 (22:22):
I absolutely want to see indictments, Maria.
Speaker 8 (22:24):
Look, of course, you've got to have the law follow.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
The facts here.
Speaker 10 (22:27):
You don't just indict people to indict people. You indict
people because they broke the law. But if you look
at what Tulsa and cash Betel have revealed in the
last couple of weeks, I don't know how anybody can
look at that and say that there wasn't aggressive violations
of the law. And I absolutely think they broke the law.
You're going to see a lot of people get indicted
for that.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
A lot of people getting indicted. That means a lot,
and it means a lot because I don't think the
Vice President of the United States of America puts that
drops that hot potato in Pam Bondi's lap unless he's
been given assurances that there's something there. We've had Tulsey
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Gabbert come out and say it's time. Vice President, it's time.
It's all these big shots keep saying it's time. Very clearly.
They think they have something. I think they do. Put
a smile on your face. All right, let's talk to
doctor Jay, shall we the NIH director. Before we talk
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to him, let me talk to you. I had to
get a new phone. I had an older phone and
it wasn't charging. I kept picking it up and plugging
it in and it just wouldn't. It was driving me crazy,
and you know how I hate technology anyway, So I
had to get a hold of pure Talk. They speak English.
(23:51):
When you get a hold of people with pure talk,
it's not just English. They're pleasant, they understand you, you
understand and them have a nice stay sir. It's a pleasure, sir.
It's just it's like in America, we used to have again,
I so appreciate a mobile company that hires Americans. It's
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not just that Pure Talk will save you a tone
over Verizon, T Mobile, A T and T. It's that
they're pleasant and they hire Americans. That means something to me.
Maybe it's because they're CEO is a Vietnam veteran. Make
the switch Puretalk dot com slash JESSETV. We'll be back. Well,
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I'm not gonna sit here, as you know, and praise
COVID or the COVID response in this in this country,
everybody knows that's not exactly something I'm going to do.
But oftentimes in life, something I've learned in my forty
four years is there are good things that can come
from bad things. Without COVID, this country ridiculous response to it.
I dare say, we probably wouldn't have the great doctor J.
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Battacharia as the head of the NIH. And it blesses
me to no end that that's where he sits. Doctor J.
Be honest with you, though the DIGS have to be
way worse than it was at Stanford. It was. It's
a lower standard of living, isn't it.
Speaker 11 (25:20):
I mean I did have to take a sixty percent
pay cut, which was fine, and then yeah, I do
miss that. I miss California. But you know, this job
has its perks. There's a lot of amazing scientists, and
I get to learn a lot about, you know, sort
of how they're working to make America healthy. So there's that.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Okay. Tell me, by the way, speaking of making America healthy,
tell me about canceling five hundred million dollars in funding
for m r n A. I don't know if we're
still calling them vaccines or not. What is it? What
happened there? Can you explain it? Please? Sure?
Speaker 11 (25:52):
So we have had ever since, you know, basically twenty
twenty one of Nextuly twenty twenty even a big investment
in producing mRNA technology basically for vaccines, mainly for the
COVID vaccine. And we've kept this investment up even as
the uptake of the COVID vaccine has like just declined
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very sharply, Like I think six four sixty percent of
Americans said that they adult Americans said they never take
another mr and A shot again. If we're going to
invest in vaccines, we need a technology that's broadly accepted
by the American people. It can't just be like a
minority of people want it. So instead, what we're doing
is we're transitioning away from this platform of mr ANDA
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where there's been so much sort of I mean, because
of the because of the pandemic and especially all the
mandates and all and the sort of the false representations
that the vaccine can stop you from getting and spreading COVID,
people have lost trust sort of legitimately. So we're transitioning
away from that toward other technologies that are much more promising.
For like there's, for instance, there's a project that I
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just heard about for maybe pretend to get being a
flu shot that actually works once and you never have
to take it again. If that actually works out, think
about that. I guess a safe vaccine that doesn't you
never needed the flu shot again. There's a whole bunch
of like promising technologies we're gonna invest it instead. So
that's the main thing we're doing. We're transitioning away from
this mRNA technology as a platform for vaccines toward other
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more promising technologies. At the same time, we're going to
keep looking to see if we can be it can
be made better to work for cancer and other things.
We're not getting rid of the technology altogether.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Doctor Donald Trump's former Surgeon General Jerome Powell. Okay, well,
this is what he said.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
For folks who may not be familiar though.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Margaret.
Speaker 12 (27:42):
mRNA stands for messenger mRNA. It's a natural molecule that's
in all of our bodies. These are advances that are
not going to happen now. People are going to die
because we're cutting short funding for this.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Techniquey doctor, I guess we don't have to go into
the details of that. But it was so different back
then during COVID than it is now. How much different
is it inside the walls?
Speaker 11 (28:07):
I mean, I wasn't inside that back then, but I
can tell you it's pretty exciting now. He I mean,
doctor Adams, I think is just kind of just do
a little minor petty thing. He's wrong that it's it's
not actually messenger RNA. That the technology, the mRNA technology
is called modified RNA. It's different than the the the
RNA that's in our body. There's in fact, there was
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a whole Nobel Prize awarded for this, so I'm not
sure where he got that wrong. It's also not true
that people are going to die. I mean, I think
the uptake of the COVID vaccine is so low compared
to what it was once was, and COVID itself has
has transformed into something for the vast majority of people
much milder than it was, you know, saying twenty twenty,
and so we just I think he's just like I
think he's living in twenty twenty, seems to me. And
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inside the walls, I just sense hope and optimism. What
I see is a lot of like optimism that the
new technologies are coming out, that we're actually we got
rid of all the DEI grants, We got rid of
all the the sort of the politicization of this agency
toward things that are actually might have a chance of
advancing American health. I mean, if we if we just
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do our mission right, our mission for the NIH is
support research that improves the health and longevity the American people.
I mean, that's that's the spirit I'm approaching this job,
and that's the spirit I think that most people here
now are moving forward with.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Doctor. We saw obviously in recent years, so many of
our institutions, institutions that the American people previously trusted, prove
themselves to be untrustworthy to put it as mildly as
I possibly can. But we have to earn that trust back.
I mean, look, putting doctor j in charge helps, but
it doesn't earn the trust all the way back. Now
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people sneer, they roll their eyes when they hear things
things like CDC and ih, how do we how do
we how do we get that trust back?
Speaker 11 (29:56):
I mean, first, I think it's very important that we
admit our errors right there. I mean, look, what what
happened during the pandemic was was just a travesty justin you.
You know, you covered it as well as anybody. I mean,
you had me on the on the show when I
was canceled, so that I mean that that that definitely
helped me a lot. I think that we have to
just start there with say, look, here are the mistakes
we made, and here are the concrete steps we're taking
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to to to solve that problem. Right So, I'll give
you one example that that I'm quite proud of that
President Trump did a couple of months ago, he signed
an executive order saying that there was not going to
be any more dangerous gain to function research funded by
the US government. You know, it's quite possible that some
of this research that unfortunately that the NIH funded, this
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might have contributed to the causing of the pandemic. Certainly
was dangerous research. When President Trump signs that executive order, says, look,
we're not going to do this kind of dangerous research.
We're going to instead focus on research that might advance
your health if we do it right. That's a concrete step.
You can point to that and say, look, we've taken
an action to protect the American public from dangerous things
and move towards things that are that are really worthwhile.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
We have to we have to do both. We have to.
Speaker 11 (31:04):
We have to say we have to. They have to
take concrete actions to acknowledge and fix the things that
came before that were problematic, and then actually have to
produce like if we we have to we have to
solve all the Alzheimer's crisis. We have to solve the
obesity crisis. We have to cure type one diabetes, type
two diabetes. We have to actually there's a there's a
big advance, for instance, in sickle cell anemia. They're now
a cure for it. Things things like that where we
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look and say, look, we actually are doing things that
are useful for our health. We're not going to use
our power to win some social justice war where yeah,
we remove DEI from our portfolio because it wasn't advancing
the health of anybody. Is politicizing science things like that.
That's it has to It's going to take concrete action,
it's going to take time, and most of all, it's
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going to take humility. I'm not here to lord over people.
I mean, I view the work of scientists and a
public health as servants of the people. That that spirit
is the key to making how uh the American people
trust us again.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
It's nice that we have organizations that are no longer partisan.
But doctor, when I hear you talk about tackling obeeda obesity,
couldn't that be interpreted as really something that helps democrats?
Speaker 11 (32:15):
I think it would help everybody, But I mean it
certainly could help me a little more. If if I
could say I could stand to use a few lose
a few, I think, you know, the key thing is
scientific advances are inherently that advance health. They are inherently
not political. They're inherently not political. That if you have
a scientific advance that gives you tools to make your
(32:37):
life better, then it's not a democratic thing or Republican thing,
ideally right, ideally, Uh, the NIH should be seen as
a resource for all Americans. I think if you look
back the past past few years, I think the way
that the NIH got used it was often a tool
for the Democratic Democratic Party that they would call themselves
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the Party of Science and try to make some contracts
with Republicans, as if the Republicans weren't also the Party
of science. Science has no partisanship if it's ideally done.
Ideally science is as is the common heritage of all people,
and if we do things right, we can get answers
that help people solve their most thorny health problems. You
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put up thus science, There's no such thing as thus science.
Science is a process for discovering how physical reality works,
and our job is to translates that physical reality so
that it addresses the most basic needs of everybody, not partisan.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
It's so refreshing to have you there. I'm so happy
for you, doctor Jay. We will break bread soon when
I get back there. I appreciate you, sir. There are
no reps in this game.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
The rules.
Speaker 13 (33:53):
We are gonna win. Whatever it takes. We're gonna take
this to them in every way that we can.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Next time we win.
Speaker 13 (34:01):
Power, we're gonna drive that car like we stole it.
We're gonna legalize every dreamer, every dreamer's parents, every hard
working American doing backbreaking work that makes this country so
great in the first place, even greater as us citizens.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
What is what the cussing? And I realized we beeped
it all out there. But you can use your imagination
on what he said. The cussing now from Democrats all
the time, joining me, now you know what I'm asking
Buck about that? Joining me now, host of course of
the Clay and Buck Show. Everybody knows them, my friend Buck,
Sexton Buck. There are a lot of theories that are
getting tossed around. We'll get to the redistricting stuff in
(34:40):
a minute. About the cussing Democrats do. Now, it's always
F this and F that, and F this and F that,
Whereas I mean, for most of our lives, buddy, we
never heard either party say this. Why.
Speaker 14 (34:53):
It's because people have started to do the math and
look at the science. I think Jesse and understand and
that there's a clear correlation between low age adjusted testosterone
in Democrat men and being left wing.
Speaker 8 (35:09):
So this is a compensation. It's absolutely true.
Speaker 14 (35:11):
By the way, you if you are a low te
beta male, the chance that you are very left wing
in your politics is incredibly high.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Uh.
Speaker 14 (35:21):
And I think that they believe that by cursing, it
makes them look tough, makes them look like they've got
But really what it makes them look like is the
kid who's got like the beginnings of a mustache in.
Speaker 8 (35:32):
Junior year of high school, who's like deestrict Dubai beer,
who's like, yeah, like look at my mustache, Like you
can trust me, you don't need my id.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Uh.
Speaker 14 (35:40):
That's that's the pathetic level that democrats have sung to
here and Beto O'Rourke, by the way, has this guy
ever had a real job? I mean, I really asked
that he married a rich lady. By the way, I
don't think he's ever had a real job. I promise
you he's never been in any kind of actual fistfighter altercation.
But he gets up there and does this fake tough
guy I want to be Texan act, and.
Speaker 8 (36:01):
It's just it's sad.
Speaker 14 (36:03):
He's a little trust fund brat, or at least someone
else's trust fund that he gets to attach himself to.
And I hope he runs on the open borders message.
I hope he runs on telling Americans, you know what,
we need ten million more dependents, ten million more people
scamming the system.
Speaker 8 (36:17):
Don't you love crowded ers.
Speaker 14 (36:19):
And schools where English is a second language is more
popular than actually teaching English.
Speaker 8 (36:24):
Yeah, that's great run off that.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I'm actually glad you brought this up. I find this
fascinating because there's always been an element of when you're
running in a primary, Republican or Democrat, you're gonna have
to say some things or take some positions that may
turn off kind of the normy morons who vote one
way or the other. But there's that normal thing, and
then there's what Democrats have now, where you have to
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take the twenty percent side of every single eighty twenty
issue or you can't gain popularity in the party. But
all the normies out there are never going to vote
for that, and they all, I mean, Chuck Schumer has
had to move way way to the left, not that
he wasn't always a lefty, way to the left just
to avoid getting primaried by AOC. To be a Democrat today,
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you have to take insane positions that means you can't
get elected. How do they get out of that minefield.
Speaker 14 (37:15):
I'm actually surprised that they haven't had that moment yet
where they start to they start to change course here
or start to maybe, you know, cut away the anchors
that are pulling them down to the to the ocean floor,
because that's exactly what's going on, especially with things like Okay, yeah,
you can keep telling us that that a two hundred
(37:36):
pound guy who now has grown his hair out long
and painted his fingernails doesn't have an advantage over you know, Susie,
Sally and and Sarah in the you know, high school
lacrosse team.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
But we're sick of.
Speaker 14 (37:50):
Being lied to, like it doesn't it doesn't matter how
often you repeat this. We can all see that you're
out of your mind's Democrats, And I think the issue
is that they've used these so effectively as mobilization tools
for so long, and they also, I think got overconfident
between COVID and the dominance they had with the social
media platforms all colluding with them where they thought they
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could ram delusion into our brains across the country. And
now they're dealing with the backlash from that, which is
it turns out half the country does not want to
act like they're they're truly insane, maybe a little more
than half the country. And that's a problem for the Democrats.
And I think it's probably more like a seventy seventy
or as you said, to twenty percent, so an eighty
twenty issue. I don't know how they walk away from
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this still, because the activist class and the donor class
for the Democrats are the craziest.
Speaker 8 (38:38):
Now, that's that's what people have to understand.
Speaker 14 (38:40):
The lifestyle issues that the billionaires like you know, the
reid Hoffman's of the world are willing to fund have
nothing to do with like the old Democrat Party of
unions and you know, blue collar labor or whatever. No,
it's all race, communism and gender insanity, funded by billionaires
who have never even gotten accuses on their hands.
Speaker 8 (39:01):
From doing anything. I mean, this is what this is
the Democrat Party of today.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah, I'm I'm blown away at how they overcome that,
because it's the donors, like you just pointed out, It's
not just the rabid street animals with the purple hair
on the streets. They're gluing themselves to the highway. The
people who fund the Democrat Party demand they take insane
positions that can't make them win. I just saw pull recently.
(39:27):
I forget what it was, but they were talking about
Democrat donors and they essentially said, these Democrats that are donors,
the billionaires want us to fight Trump harder. That was
the position they take. The billionaire donors are not telling
Democrats to slow down, Jasmine Crockett, take off your eyelashes.
They're not saying these things. They're telling you no, double down,
triple down. So they're just screwed.
Speaker 14 (39:51):
Well, the point of being a billionaire leftist is that
you get to chin wag among your social set, which
is going to be basically other let's just be honest
tech billionaires or you know, inherited money billionaires. You're going
to be able to tell them about how virtuous you
are and what a badass you are by.
Speaker 8 (40:10):
Writing these checks.
Speaker 14 (40:11):
I mean, you look at somebody like, try to get
in the mindset of now Alex.
Speaker 8 (40:15):
Soros it was George Soros before or George Schwartz I
believe was his original name. He changed his name to Soros.
Speaker 14 (40:23):
Try to get in the mind of some of these individuals,
like what does this guy, Alex Soros think he's doing.
He is funding things that make him feel important and brave,
or at least important and tough, because he's a radical.
There's nothing radical about this guy. He's been flying private
his entire life. He's never done a hard day's work
in his life. He's never had to worry about paying
(40:44):
a bill in his life. But he wants to cosplay
as some kind of revolutionary and by writing checks to
the street communists, as you point out, he's able to
do that, and he's able to act like he somehow
has worth beyond the dollars in the bank account that
he didn't earn. Now you just extrapolate that out for
the entire Democrat donor class, and you see what their
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politics really are. It's the politics of showiness. It's a
politics of self importance dressed up as concern for other people,
because if you're concerned for other people, you certainly wouldn't
be funding like Soros DA's who turn every city into
a healthscape where everyone's being preyed upon by barbarians all
the time.
Speaker 8 (41:24):
But that's what they do.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
I almost forgot Sorows and that beard he married, whatever
her stupid name, is all right, Buck, are we gonna
Are we gonna do okay in the midterms. I feel
like with the redistricting stuff, which I know is not
going to go into effect by them, but with the deportations,
and I feel like we might do okay. But you
and I've had this talk before. Yeah, I know I'm not.
Speaker 8 (41:48):
You know, Clay's the optimistic one, He's the happy one.
I'm the bitter one. So you know, I'm the one.
It's always like, I think we're screwed.
Speaker 14 (41:54):
You know, he loves sports, he's the Clay is like
the you know, he's the He's the golden retriever, and
I'm a little more like the angry bloodhound who's you know,
in the backyard, doesn't want to be bothered.
Speaker 8 (42:06):
I would just say this, I would say I think that.
Speaker 14 (42:09):
I mean, look, we're going to keep the Senate, which
is which is obviously very helpful, very good for judges
and getting people through, although that judicial machinery needs to
work a lot more smoothly than it has been. I
also think that we're going to be in pretty good
shape to hold the House. Actually, this is what I've
been telling everybody. This stuff happened so quickly. As you know, Jesse,
Trump has eighteen months, and look he's moving at at
(42:31):
an incredible pace. I have no complaints about the issues
that they're focusing on, the speed with Blist they're focusing
on it. I had tons of complaints in the first
Trump administration, but they had a clown show making a
lot of the decisions under Trump, so that wasn't really
a surprise.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
It was just, you know, a lot of screw ups.
Speaker 14 (42:46):
You had to fire a lot of people this time around, though,
they are locked in, but they only have eighteen months
maybe less to do big things because then it just
turns into a midterm fight. And the only thing Democrats
will exist to do if they take the House is
be as not just obstructive, because you know, fine, both
parties want to stop the other party as insane as possible.
(43:06):
Whatever a Democrat majority House can do to be as
crazy as possible.
Speaker 8 (43:10):
Is what they will do.
Speaker 14 (43:11):
So I view it as really existential for the Trump
agenda to maintain the House in the Senate. I think
they can, though as my i'd go as far as
to say I think they will, Jesse.
Speaker 8 (43:21):
I actually think they will, which is unlikely in an
off year election. But look at it. Look at how
Sonny my disposition is today shocking your viewers shock?
Speaker 1 (43:31):
How about that? About that? Now I'm in a good mood.
Thanks Buck, appreciate your brother. Lighten the mood. That's all right.
It is time to lighten the mood. And dogs are
(43:55):
there's something that gets featured regularly on the show for
lightening the mood, because don't they make us all happy?
It's not just yours. When you see a video of
a dog doing something, loving on some sick kid, or
saving somebody from a bear, puts a smile on your face.
Speaker 15 (44:15):
Out out come here, out, Oh my god, I am
(44:43):
glad that dog didn't catch the bear.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
I'll see them
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