August 19, 2025 • 44 mins
President Trump and Zelensky just met once again in the Oval Office, this time flanked by European leaders. This comes after Trump's meeting with Putin in Alaska. Will this lead to peace? Jesse Kelly discusses with Breitbart's Frances Martel. Jesse also dives into various cultural battles taking place in America today, exposing how the communist infiltrates everything Americans love. Plus, a Liz Wheeler joins the show with reaction to a ridiculous new bit of commentary from former FBI director James Comey.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Trump met with Zolensky. Today, we have gay cheerleaders, we
have Liz Wheeler, we have all that more coming up
on I'm right, okay, So let's talk about the meeting
seen and heard around the world today. Zolensky flew In
(00:26):
had a meeting at the White House. But before we pause,
before we get to that, let's talk a little bit
about the background of it. As you are well aware,
Vladimir Putin flew into Alaska last week and met with
Donald Trump. And as I'm sure you have seen by now,
during this meeting, we flew a bomber overhead here. It
(00:46):
was kind of a cool moment. Let me explain. First
(01:17):
of all, I don't think that that moment had some
kind of a lasting effect on Putin. I understand why
we did it, but Putin would understand why we did
it too. This is something nations have a history of doing.
Here's a little tidbit for you. The B twenty nine
super Fortress during World War II was the greatest bomber
on earth that could fly further, drop more bombs. And
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we used the B twenty nine super Fortress to bomb
Japanese cities to dust. And they were well aware of
this plane. They couldn't even get anti air weapons up
high enough to cheot it down. It basically laid waste
to the country of Japan. When we invited the Japanese
on board the USS Missouri to sign the peace documents
of unconditional surrender, we took a lot of B twenty
(02:02):
nine super Fortresses and flew it directly over their heads
while they were signing the documents. So this is not
something new. We didn't reinvent the wheel here, but it's
something countries do. Kind of a cool moment. Now, let's
move on to today. Zelenski shows up at the White
House and look, no matter what, it had to go better,
and it went last time.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to
end the destruction of your country.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yes, but if you President.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
With respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come
to the Oval Office to try to litigate this in
front of the American media. Right now, you guys are
going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because
you have manpower problems. You should be thanking the President
for every to bring it into this company.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I've been to Ukraine that you say, what problems we have.
I have been to well come once.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I've actually I've actually watched and seen the stories, and
I know what happens is you bring people, you bring
them on.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
A propaganda tour. Mister President, you will feel it. You
don't know that. God bless You're not blessed.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
You don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
You gotta don't tell us what we're gonna feel. We're
trying to solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're
going to feel. You're not in a good positions. You
don't have the cards right now with us. You start
having right now, you don't wear your planes. You're gambling
with the lives of millions of people. You're gambling with
World War three.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Not great. So let's focus on how it went today.
Here's just a little cut up of the biggest moments
from the White Hot or from the Old Office.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
If everything works out well today, we'll have a try lad,
and I think there will be a reasonable chance of
ending the war when we do that.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
But we're gonna work with Ukraine, We're gonna work with everybody,
and we're gonna make sure that if this piece a
piece is going to stay long term. This is very
long term we're not talking about a two year piece
and then we end up in this mess again.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
So let me just give you my opinion on a
couple of things. First, I am extremely skeptical that this
will end in peace, extremely skeptical. I just the different
sides have different motivations. Putin right now has a hold
of the land he wants and I can't get him
out of it. What motivation does he have? Zolensky has
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gotten world famous and very very rich, and Zolensky doesn't
want to have an election once we get to in
a moment, Why does Zelensky want it to end? I mean,
maybe he's a super patriotic Ukrainian, But to be honest,
the war has worked out pretty well for Zelensky. I
just don't know. It's very difficult to end a war. Historically,
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it's difficult to bring two sides together an end a
war super peace, come up with an agreement. It's very difficult.
So I'm cynical. I am, I'm skeptical. But but Donald
Trump has done wonderful things on the world stage. He
has he deserves all the credit in the world for it.
And if this war was about to end, it would
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go exactly like it's going right now, meet with Putin,
hash some things out, meet with Zelensky, hash some things out.
Trump gets on the phone with Putin. Afterwards, let's come
up a meeting time. But if it's going to end,
we're going through all the steps we're going through to
end it. So let's hope it ends. I do want
to touch on one thing though, that is a very
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very big thing before we bring in Francis Martel to
talk about the nitty gritty of Europe's motivations and Russia's
motivations and everything else. Something Zelensky said today about the
fact that Ukraine is not having elections here, he was.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Upon peace, God, will let me get peace.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Are you open to holding an election in your country?
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Yes, of course, we're all open for Electionally, yes, we
have to do safety circumstances.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
And a little bit.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
We need to work in the amount because during the
war you can't have elections, but we can. We can't
do security.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
We need maybe.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
How to say, we need a truth yes everywhere in
the battlefield in the sky and to see, yeah, to
make possible for people to to do democratic, open, legal,
legal elections.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
So okay, why haven't had elections. Constitution says they can't
have them during martial law. Zolensky's the one who declared
martial law. Now, I don't want to sit and drop
all this in Zelenski's lap. Martial law in part is
because Russia is flying drones into civilian populations, rockets and missiles,
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so you're trying to keep people inside. I understand all that.
I understand that this is a much more complicated situation
than the Internet would have you. Believe. My point on
this is you should always have elections, and the most
important time to have elections is during a war. That's
the most important time during a war. Why because Zelensky
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isn't going to die, He's in really no physical danger here.
But legions in legions of Ukrainians are dying. Legions in
legions of Ukrainian mothers now have lost their sons, wives
have lost their husbands, children have been orphaned. The Ukrainian
people are doing the dying and the suffering. And in
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a free country, the people doing the dying and the
suffering should have a say in who is leading their
country during the dying and the suffering. Otherwise it's not
a free country. It's a tyranny, and don't tell me
about Russia has this much Ukrainian territory or Ukrainian people
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have left. We had an election here during the Civil War.
I don't want to hear it. Have an election, give
the people a say. Anyway, let's talk to Francis joining
me now, Breitbart International News editor, one of our favorites here,
Francis Martel. Okay, Francis, everybody understands all the internet talking
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points with the Putin meeting and the flyover now Zelensky
from today, but the actual real news, the real information.
Can you walk us through what has been happening in
the past several days, weeks? What's the progress? Is their progress?
Is this all? What's what's going on?
Speaker 8 (08:32):
So yeah, I mean there's a lot of information that
is unconfirmed, right, so the stuff actually coming from the Kremlin,
from the White House in Ukraine is not It's not
a whole lot, especially on the Russian side. We got
that amazing meeting with Putin on Friday where Trump brought out,
you know, the biggest hardware we have basically to scare him,
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and now he has Zelensky in the White House, and
all we're hearing is that we are working tow a
trilateral meeting. What we want to do is get Puin
and Trump and Zelenski in the same room to work
something out. And Trump has ruled out a ceasefire because
he doesn't trust either side to actually.
Speaker 7 (09:11):
Adhere to a ceasefire. So now what we want is
a permanent piece.
Speaker 8 (09:15):
Of some sort. That is what the White House is pushing.
And then we have the Europeans. There's parade of European
leaders that are going to the White House today to
protect their own interests, which include buying Russian fossil fuels.
So they're in the mix too, but they're kind of sidelined.
And now we're just waiting to see what happens with
the Zolenski meeting.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Okay, I'm sorry, Francis, but I'm going to just suck
every bit of knowledge out of your head as possible
as I try to understand all the players in this game.
Let's focus on what I think is the least important
entity you just mentioned, the European leaders. Okay, they want
Zelenski to fight on so forever. At the same time
they're buying Russian gas. Can you please, Untie this knot
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for me. I'm an idiot and I'm confused.
Speaker 8 (09:59):
So there are two competing interests here, right, There is
the Western European interest in buying cheap Russian oil and gas,
especially as the winter is coming up. August is a
great time to get rid of some sanctions to get
some cheap fuel for the winter, right. And then there's
the Eastern European concern that Russia is going to keep
invading things. Vladimir Putin has a terrible record of not
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invading things. It's not just Ukraine, it's regions of Georgia
that he's invaded several times. He's threatened multiple states, and
he's been pretty open about his lament about the fall
of the Soviet Union. So you have countries like the
Baltics and like Poland that are very worried about throwing
Russian military aggression. And then you have the Western Europeans
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like France and Germany that are saying that they're worried
about that, But what they're really worried about is their
own people heating their.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
Homes in the winter.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Okay, so they want the war to stop.
Speaker 8 (10:59):
I think they want the same to be lifted the
Western Europeans, and if the war keeps going.
Speaker 7 (11:03):
It's not really their business.
Speaker 8 (11:05):
Ideally, if the war ends, that would be good for them,
but there's no major compelling Western European interest to end
the war. The interest is to lift the sanctions that
are a result.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Of the war.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Okay, now let's shift to Russia here, and I'm gonna
I guess I'll make probably a couple of statements with
my question. As you know, feel free to tell me
I'm a moron and I got it wrong. Putin has
roughly fifteen percent of you. Putin has roughly fifteen percent
of Ukraine. He appears to have most or all of
the parts of Ukraine he wanted to have. And he
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is not, from my understanding, politically unpopular back home. What's
his incentive to deal anything?
Speaker 7 (11:51):
Well, I think he.
Speaker 8 (11:52):
You know, the premise that he's politically unpopular at home
or politically popular at home is based you know, on
a lot of Russian dubious surveys, and also on the
fact that a lot of the people are at home
are still you know, it's middle aged and older. I
think young people in Russia are extremely frustrated with their
economic situation. They're growing isolation, and the fact that all
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these young men are being sent out to Ukraine.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
But at the same time.
Speaker 8 (12:17):
Those young men, if they were at home, they would
have pretty limited economic prospects. You know, the same birth
rate situation that every developing country is having is happening
in Russia. And so there is this risk that I
think does fuel part of Putin's drive to keep the
war going of young able bodied men in Russia getting
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frustrated seeing the government as tyrannical and actually organizing a
viable opposition to Putin, and I think getting rid of
those guys, giving them something else to do, namely going
to war that benefits Putin tremendously.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Okay, so Zelenski we've heard today Zelenski's kind of have
to give up Crimea, which is kind of hilarious. He's
already given it up, and he can't join and he
can't join NATO. So why would Zelensky ended What incentivizedes
Zelensky to end it?
Speaker 8 (13:14):
I think, you know, on his end, personal reasons are
probably the biggest. He hasn't really been able to live
with his wife and kids since the war started, but
also the same fear of his own people that Putin has,
and with that it goes both ways, right, because the
Ukrainian people tend to, you know, when we do look
at protests even that have happened against Selenski, they're worried
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that too much concession means that Putin is going to
keep the war going.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
They want the war to.
Speaker 8 (13:39):
End, but they think that conceding might not necessarily lead
to that, it might expand the war.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
So he has to deal with that.
Speaker 8 (13:45):
But he also has to deal with the widows and
the orphans and the people that are tired of running
away from this war and they want some sort of
stability in their lives. And I think that if they
don't see that Zelensky is working towards peace in a
good faith matter, if the impression starts to look like
Zelenski's prolonging the war, for example, to avoid having an
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election or for his own personal interests, then he's going
to have a serious problem on his hands. The Ukrainian
people are not shy about overthrowing their presidents and kicking them.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
Out of the country.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Okay, let's talk about that not having an election thing.
The world has understood and accepted that Vladimir Putin is
a tyrant of all my problems I have with Putin. Honestly,
that's my biggest problem. He won't have elections. He keeps
arresting his political opposition. That's a tyrant to me, and
I hate tyrants. Zelensky is done the same, has he not.
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I don't like it. It looks bad. And I know
he said today you can't have an election during a war.
I think that's the most important time to have an election.
Speaker 7 (14:47):
Yeah, I mean, I agree with you completely.
Speaker 8 (14:49):
I think the difference between Zelenski and Putin, though, is
the Ukrainian Constitution.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
The Ukrainian Constitution is a mess.
Speaker 8 (14:55):
Ukraine has been a country since you know, the early nineties,
so this is a very experimental text. And the constitution
actually does ban elections during military rule. So for him
to legally hold an election, he would have to lift
martial law. And he's saying, I can't lift martial law
if there's Russian drone strikes all over these apartment buildings
in eastern Ukraine, I simply cannot do it. Similarly, the
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Ukrainian Constitution doesn't allow like deals to switch control of
land from one place to another, and I think it
was just it's a poorly written document.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
At this point, I think Ukraine should strongly consider just
rewriting the whole thing.
Speaker 8 (15:31):
And I'm the last person that would come out and say,
you know, the solution to this is throwing away the
constitution in most countries, but the Ukrainian constitution is deeply flawed,
and it's convenient for Zelenski.
Speaker 7 (15:43):
But it is also just a reality that this document
is no good.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Okay, Now, security guarantees. We continue to hear this internet buzzword.
We need security guarantees. They're going to provide security guarantees, right,
could you expand on that past the two words, what
does that mean?
Speaker 8 (16:03):
Security guarantees are threats to Russia to prevent Russia from
invading again, essentially making the cost of invasion so high
that the Russians won't do it because the cost benefit
doesn't work. And it's direct, it's implicitly vague. It's intentionally
vague because no one wants to give the security guarantees.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Right.
Speaker 8 (16:25):
The biggest security guarantee that Ukraine had was its nuclear weapons,
and they gave that up. And we've seen every nation
that gives up nuclear weapons essentially have a massive political
upheaval and then chaos. Obviously, Libya is the main example.
But Ukraine had a similar situation where you know, if
they had nuclear weapons, that would be a security guarantee
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Russia would not invade that country, and that is not
the case here, and obviously there's no replacing those nukes,
So then that leaves open, Okay, what is a security guarantee?
And I think what Ukraine wanted initially was joining NATO,
which would essentially be like regaining nukes, because if Article
five is triggered, then nuclear armed states would be in a.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
Conflict with Russia.
Speaker 8 (17:09):
But none of the states that would have to poney
up to answer to Article five want to do that.
No one wants to engage in a nuclear powered war
with Russia. So that leaves a major question of what
these guarantees are and right now we don't really know.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Okay. Now, finally, if this thing collapses, if there's no Triland,
and if there's no trilateral meeting where they walk away
with a peace agreement, let's stop killing each other. Little
land for you, little land for me. If that does
not happen, And if I sound skeptical, it's because I am.
Where do we go from here? Trump has threatened both
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sides with fairly vague terms. But what happens from.
Speaker 8 (17:52):
Here, Well, I think the biggest question for Ukraine is
what is the United States going to do about all
this money we're spending about this, And I think Trump's
solution to that has been make the Europeans pay for it,
and you know, to add to your cynicism, I think
the big result of it would be the war would
continue in an isolated spot of Ukraine. They just decide
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this piece of the Dombas is where we're going to
keep having war, but we're going to stop bombing each
other in other civilian areas. And the Europeans are probably
going to start buying a lot of Indian oil, which
is essentially Russian crud that has been refined in India,
so they can get their cut without violating the sanctions.
And Trump can sell American weapons to the Europeans that
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they have the money for because they're buying cheaper Indian
Russian oil, and then it goes on and on and on.
That is a very possible situation here where we just
see this go on indeterminately until either, you know, one
or two of the leaders of these countries either die
or get replaced, and then we'll see what happens. This
is you know, this is a ten year plus old
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war at this point, and we've seen wars go for
far longer, you know, Afghanistan probably being the record. But
it's very likely that if this doesn't succeed, we're just
going to see more trudging through this violence with with
no real clear definition of victory.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Well, that's freaking awful. By the way, how are things
in Afghanistan this year?
Speaker 8 (19:21):
They're rough, They're rough. The Taliban just celebrated they're four
years in power and they are actually doing pretty well.
Russia is the only country in the world that recognizes
the Taliban as a government, but they demanded last week
that President Trump gave them the Afghan embassy back in Washington.
They're getting very cozy with China. And the lives of
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Afghans are horrible. Women can't leave their homes. Essentially, there's
a tremendous poverty. The farming is a disaster. It's not good,
it's it's a really horrible situation.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Well, if you can't trust the Jihati to run your economy,
then who can you trust. Francis, Thank you so much,
I appreciate it. Well, that was all awful. There's a
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I want to talk about communist mentality here, how they
think versus how we think. We try to have these
conversations as off as humanly possible right here on. I'm
right because it helps me, it helps you understand not
what we're seeing, why we're seeing what we're seeing, Why
are the communists doing this, why are they doing that?
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And so so often the right still does not understand it.
And really the main principle behind why we oftentimes don't
understand what we're up against is we think we're up
against democrats, liberals, people on the left, when in reality
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we are up against a conquering religion of destruction. And
it doesn't matter, It doesn't matter whether you see them
that way, actually doesn't matter. But that's how they see themselves.
They see themselves as conquerors. They are marching forward. They
are trying to vanquished evil and what is evil? Everything good,
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everything that is awesome, the United States of America Family
Church right wrong. They're trying to vanquish all that, eliminate
it all, and so they are conquering. That's what they
are doing. And you can tell the right still does
not understand why the communist does the things he does.
And you know, I'm gonna actually use the NFL of
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all things as a great example of this. The Minnesota
Vikings rolled out some gay cheerleader. Now, there have always
been male cheerleaders, the high school, college, whatever, always been
male cheerleaders. They're always these big, huge, stocky dudes who
toss women around. You know that most of the times
they're the most alpha guys out there. Not this one.
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This one is as flamboyant and feminine like as humanly possible.
And I watched NFL fans all weekend since this announcement
say things like why why are they doing this? Why
are they doing this that the Panthers have a training cheerleader.
Speaking of the NFL, they put out a message that
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they're forcing teams to have things like end racism and
choose love in the end zone. And people on the
right are confused because they're saying, why why can't I
just watch the game? Why can't they just leave me alone?
Why can't we just enjoy sports? Why do they have
to do this? I love this stuff? Why can't they
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just leave it alone? But you see, you just answered
your question. He answered your own question. They can't leave
it alone because you love it. Don't think for a
single second that the communist has conquered things you care
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about by accident. That is just kind of out there
conquer again everything, and hey, just happened to stumble whoopsie
into that thing that you enjoy with family and friends
on a Sunday afternoon in November. Don't think it was
an accident at all. If you do, you do not
understand the way the communist thinks. Allow me to explain
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this as it pertains to entertainment, because we'll move on
to a couple other things that are important, But as
it pertains to entertainment. Entertainment is a critically important part
of culture, every single culture, not just American culture. It's easy,
especially for people like me, to be dismissive of it. Oh,
no one cares what this actor says. No one cares
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about sports, knowing that's the it's not important. Can't we
just talk about Texas? Very easy to say things like that,
But entertainment has always been an important part of every
single culture. Entertainment does things to a culture, beneficial things,
extremely beneficial things. Greek mythology. You know about Greek mythology, right,
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Zeus and Apollo, and you know about Greek mythology where
the gods and Mount Olympus and you know all those stories,
the stories of Icarus Fly, include Too Close to the Sun,
and you know all the crazy stories. Fascinating stories, aren't
they wonderful? Great read even today? But what was the
point of them? Because they're very old and they performed
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those stories, they read them to each other, they performed
them in plays in Greek auditoriums. Why because there are
important lessons to be had from those stories, teaching society
lessons everything greed, jealousy, lust, bravery, good lessons, bad lessons.
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Entertainment matters. Hollywood, American Hollywood used to be. You know
John Wayne films, tough guy, you be brave, you'd be tough,
die on, behalf of women and children if you have
to fight against evil. That was important. It mattered. I've
told you before, John Wayne movies helped shape my moral upbringing.
I know it's wild, but it's true. The NFL, what
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about sports? Critical part of entertainment. Sports not only trains
young men to be more physical, learn team We're actually
in young women. Be more physical, learn teamwork, learn hard work.
Sports is wonderful for a society. My sixteen year old
gets up every single day now five am, feeds himself breakfast,
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drives himself to practice that's learning hard work values that'll
carry him the rest of his life. It's not just
that sports brings that Sports is a unifying part of society,
unifying part of society. Don't think that this is just America.
Did you know that in ancient room the chariot races
were the biggest thing around, and that there were teams,
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just like today, when the Yankees play the Red Sox
or the Patriots played the Chargers, there were teams. There
would be red team or blue team, and you would
wear your team's jersey and you'd argue about it, and
you'd show up at the chariot races. Why it brings
people together. No more distractions, no more politics, no more
let's go together and see something amazing. See entertainment. Root
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for my side, root against your side. Sports matter a lot,
the NFL in particular. Maybe you're an NFL fan, Maybe
you don't care about it, and I haven't watched it
in years. I used to be the biggest NFL fan
in the world. They turned me off of all the
Black Lives Matter stuff. But whether or not you're a
fan doesn't matter. The NFL is enormous. There was a
time back when I was watching NFL. And I don't
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know that it's still this way. It probably is. The
nine of the ten most watched TV shows every year
were NFL games. NFL is enormous, people love it, people
watch it well. The communists. He can see TV ratings too.
He's not gonna let that go. If this is an
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important sport that matters to people, where Americans sit down
and watch it, you have to think like a demonic conqueror.
That's what the communist is. If it entertains people, if
it brings people together, if it teaches values, he's going
to conquer it. And they did. They started working their
way through the NFL offices, of course, hiring the latest
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communists from Stanford, latest communists from Columbia, and they worm
their way like the virus. They are through the good,
wonderful things. We love the NFL offices. And now on
Sunday you have to explain to your son and your
daughter why there's some complain flaming homosexual acting like a
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woman with the other woman cheerleaders on the Minnesota Vikings field.
Don't dismiss it as nothing. It is something, and they
did it on purpose. I've brought this up before, that's
why they did the boy Scouts the Girl Scouts. It's
kind of a weird thing, right you see this story
girl Scout troop leader was removed because she refused to
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promote gender sexuality alliance clubs in New Jersey.
Speaker 9 (29:31):
Here's one mom, and we saw kind of a change
in our own town where they would have town events
at a church that actually displayed pride flags, progressive pride flags.
They had a trance identifying thirteen year old come and
do a event there, promising you know, music, ice cream, pizza.
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And I couldn't even bring my troops at these town
events because it was completely inappropriate for children to see.
They shouldn't be around anything sexual. I called them out
on it this past June. They said, you know, all
the troops are going to be doing this, LGB. You know, however,
many letters are in that and encouraging that all of
(30:20):
the town troops would be doing it, saying, yes, Parkridge,
you know encourages this. And I shared it because a
lot of parents were quite upset. They said, you know,
one parent and my husband wants me to pull my
daughter out of girls.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Why would they do Why Girl Scouts can't they just
leave that alone. Girl Scouts are important used to be
teaching young women values, incredibly important values. Did you think
the Communist is going to let that go? Communist doesn't
think that way. We have to start understanding better how
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he thinks and why he does the things he does
before we will ever be able to take them on.
Remember that, all right, and look, speaking of corporate values,
I have bad news for you. The Communists has wormed
his way all the way up the chain and Verizon
at and T and T Mobile. If you still support
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these companies with your money, you're giving money to all
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Speaker 10 (32:06):
Hey everybody, welcome back to my substack. Last week's cold
turns out to have been COVID, quite a flashback, and
Donald Trump is still president and still humiliating America on
a national stage standing next to Vladimir Putin. It's like
a dream, a bad dream you can't wake up from.
But I don't want to talk about that bad dream
this week. I want to talk about a truly inspirational
(32:28):
public figure named Taylor Swift. I'm in a family's swifty
group Chap. I know all her music and I listened
to it in my headphones when I cut the grass.
While our elderly makeup covered president is posting about whether
Taylor Swift is still hot and declaring that he can't
stand her. What's she doing living her best life, producing
(32:50):
great music and, as she urged all of us to
do during the podcast, not giving the jerks power over
her mind. She said something about dealing with internet trolls
that stuck with me. Think of your energy as if
it's expensive, she said, as if it's like a luxury item.
Not everyone can afford it.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Joining me now. Liz Wheeler, host of The Liz Wheeler Show,
Liz that gentleman was the former head of the Federal
Bureau of Investigation. Does it seem like the leaders of
the West lack a certain level of seriousness today? Or
(33:36):
is that just be Is that just me being an
old curmudgeon? Do we lack seriousness?
Speaker 11 (33:42):
James Comy is a freak. He is a freak. I
watched the entire five minute video of James Comy drooling
fanboying over Taylor Swift. Five minutes of my life I
will never get back. Do you understand the math here?
Do you understand how creepy this is? He talks about
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going to his first Taylor Swift concert fourteen years ago
or something like that. Do you know how old Taylor
Swift was. She would have been like nineteen or twenty,
and he was a fifty year old man. That's really
really creepy.
Speaker 7 (34:18):
It's so weird to me.
Speaker 11 (34:20):
But here's the thing, Jesse, James Comy is different than
a lot of other swamp creatures. Like a lot of
swamp creatures are really dumb. Peter Strack is a good example,
Like he was obviously just used as a patsy. He's stupid,
he's a sheep, he's a follower. They wanted him to
commit the crime so that they had plausible deniability. James
Comy is not like that. James Comy is actually a
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very strategic thinker, he's just a bad person, so he
uses his intelligence for bad things. For example, think about
when he posted on his Instagram that rock Formation eighty
six forty seven and then pretended, oh, I thought that
with someone's street address.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
No, you didn't.
Speaker 11 (34:57):
You're the former FBI director. You know the situation and
is killing President Trump. You're You're not stupid. You just
think we're stupid. But the reason he did that he
knew when he posted that that it would create backlash.
He knew he would get a visit from the Secret Service,
but he had no intention of killing Trump, so they
would leave. He knew he would not face charges, and
he knew he would get questioned by even mainstream media
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about it and it would lead to selling books because
it was the week before his book was released, so
he was like four or five steps ahead of the
actual action that he was taking. That's how I interpret
this video of him drooling over tailor shift. Yes he's
a freak, Yes he's a creep. Yes our leaders are unserious.
But the question in my mind about this video is
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why why did James call me post this video? Because
I know that it's just step one in some other plot.
Speaker 7 (35:47):
What's coming next?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I'm glad you brought that up, Liz, because I've been
wondering this about this myself. John Brennan, who rumor has it,
is probably most in jeopardy of possibly going to Jay
with this whole Russia hoax investigation stuff. His stupid fat
faces all over the television set every time I turn
it on. Nobody facing a serious legal trial would run
and do interviews all the time. No lawyer worth their
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salt would allow their clients to do that. Yet he is.
Why is he unafraid? Why is James Comy unafraid? I'm
nervous to even ask you, but why aren't any of
these people afraid?
Speaker 11 (36:26):
Because Republicans are weak. Republicans are impotent. Republicans are afraid
to actually play to win. They know the Democrats can
commit crimes, and they know that they will get away
with those crimes because they have gotten away with crimes
for decades and decades. Because Republicans are so nice. Republicans
want to be gentlemen and get drinks after arguing on
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the floor of Congress. They want to be bipartisan. They
don't want to target their political enemies because that's not
what our country was meant to do, and the result
of this is we get steamrolled over and over and
Overthink about how long James Comy and John Brennan have
been swamp creatures, how many years they have committed crimes
against the American people and gotten away with this. They
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know that they can go on MSNBC or what's it
called now ms now, I don't even know what that's
supposed to stand for. More stupidity now. Probably they can
go on these media outlets, and these media outlets are propagandists.
They run cover for the criminals as long as the
crimes are committed against you and against me. So it's
not courage or confidence that causes these confidence and justice
(37:33):
I should say that causes James Comy and John Brennan
to go on media on a media tour when they
are facing what should be charges. It's confidence that Pambondi's
Department of Justice is at the very at the most
Significant'm gonna get a little slap on the wrist for
a perjury charge.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Uh, that's you know what. Let's shift gears and talk
about something wonderful, the mental illness and the Democrat Party
here was Dome sing your way through a little interview.
Speaker 12 (38:01):
I think what they're doing is they're cheating. I think
they're cheating. They want to change the current system to
make it bend toward the outcome they want. And so
you know, if you believe the public reporting, they get
a call that says, hey, redo your lines, even though
(38:22):
the fallout is going to include exactly what you said,
which is, you know, taking the franchise the vote away
from specific communities and in the case of Texas, Latino
and black voters yea.
Speaker 7 (38:37):
And diluting their votes.
Speaker 12 (38:40):
And this is not a sentence year, but this is
a year with the big, beautiful bill and then the
unpopularity of it, and so they want to then the
rules and I and I have to say that, you know,
those Texas, those Texan legislators it for them.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
It's the music that kills me, the dramatic music.
Speaker 11 (39:06):
Put that music on there, hire them, hire them as
a producer.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
I know.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Let's tell her they are just a bunch of theater kids,
aren't they, Liz. That's in the end, that's what It's
so much drama all the time.
Speaker 11 (39:24):
I mean, listen, look at the table in front of
Kamala Harris. There are two glasses sitting in front of her.
One is filled with water and the other one is empty.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yeah. Yeah, that pretty much says it all. By the way, Oh,
I have to ask you about this joy and Reed
who got fired from MSNBC not for saying kooky things
like this. She went on TV. She said this.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
They can't fix the history they did. Their ancestors made
this country into a slave a slave hill. But they
can clean it up now because they got the Smithsonian.
They can get rid of all the slavery stuff they got,
prager you, they can lie about the history to the children.
They can't originally invent anything more than they ever were
able to invent good music. We black folk gave y'all
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country music, hip hop, R and B, jazz, rock and roll.
They couldn't even invent that. But they have to call
a white man the king because they couldn't make rock
and roll, So they have to stamp the king on
a man whose main song was stolen from an overweight
black woman.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Liz, I feel like the country's kind of done with this,
this kind of race bading branding. I think the George
Floyd protests tapped out America's energy for it. It just doesn't
seem to get traction anymore? Am I wrong?
Speaker 11 (40:48):
I mean, I had a little bit of a hard
time following her convoluted thinking and speaking, to be perfectly honest,
but it seemed to me that she was saying that you,
as a white man, Jesse, are to blame for all
sins of all white men in all bygone eras, which
is ridiculous. It's one of the reasons actually, those that
kind of ridiculous thinking. It's a false accusation, right we
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as human beings. One of the worst accusations you can
face is being racist. And it's a good thing that
that's one of the worst accusations. No one wants to
be racist because it's dehumanizing another child of God, and
so in our country it is the worst accusation you
can face is to be racist, which is why the
left often falsely accuses people of that, because they are
trying to assassinate people's character beyond the point of no return.
(41:33):
But the problem is that when you do this so
often to so many innocent people, eventually people realize, Hey,
I don't have to take this. I don't want my
children taught this. I don't want this racialism to be
the foundation of our society, and they went the left,
went too far with this critical race theory stuff, and
they are suffering the backlash. And it's a good backlash.
(41:54):
It's not just personal or professional backlash. It is a
reclaiming of justice and a reclaim of equality in our country,
both governmentally and in our culture. And Joyanne Read is
a perfect example of that.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Liz, thank you, ma'am. I appreciate it. We have light
in the mood. Before we lighten the mood. Let me
make your tomorrow better and the day after that, the
day after that and the day after that. You know
how I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna give you a
good night's sleep. Well, I mean, I'm not beam is
(42:29):
dream powder from beam? It's life changing taking something to sleep.
I know. There are so many things you can take.
I'm not naive. Doctor will write you a prescription. You
can go right down to local pharmacy and pick something up.
And what do all those things have in common? Every
single one of them. When you wake up the next day,
you feel horrible. You don't feel rested. Oh you slept
(42:51):
for nineteen hours, You're still groggy, your eyes hanging out, horrible,
But dream powder is natural. It's a couple of hot
with a bunch of natural things in it. It's not
like you go drop into a coma. You just kind
of relax and go to sleep, and when you wake up,
it's like you didn't take a thing. You're fired up,
(43:14):
ready to go. Go try something. Shopbeamed dot com slash
Jesse Kelly gets you a huge discount. We'll be back
all right. It is time to lighten the mood. And
(43:36):
I do love it that every part of the right,
every part of society, seems to be more willing now
than they ever were to give it right back to
the filthy communists. You see, these filthy communists have been
used to being the only aggressor in every social setting.
That's why your liberal ant Pegy used to show up
at Thanksgiving screaming about her fifteenth abortion. And now she's
(43:56):
a little bit more quiet because the right has had
enough in joy an ice agent telling some tubby comedy.
That's exactly what she is. I see them all, hm
Speaker 4 (44:33):
H
Trump met with Zolensky. Today, we have gay cheerleaders, we
have Liz Wheeler, we have all that more coming up
on I'm right, okay, So let's talk about the meeting
seen and heard around the world today. Zolensky flew In
(00:26):
had a meeting at the White House. But before we pause,
before we get to that, let's talk a little bit
about the background of it. As you are well aware,
Vladimir Putin flew into Alaska last week and met with
Donald Trump. And as I'm sure you have seen by now,
during this meeting, we flew a bomber overhead here. It
(00:46):
was kind of a cool moment. Let me explain. First
(01:17):
of all, I don't think that that moment had some
kind of a lasting effect on Putin. I understand why
we did it, but Putin would understand why we did
it too. This is something nations have a history of doing.
Here's a little tidbit for you. The B twenty nine
super Fortress during World War II was the greatest bomber
on earth that could fly further, drop more bombs. And
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we used the B twenty nine super Fortress to bomb
Japanese cities to dust. And they were well aware of
this plane. They couldn't even get anti air weapons up
high enough to cheot it down. It basically laid waste
to the country of Japan. When we invited the Japanese
on board the USS Missouri to sign the peace documents
of unconditional surrender, we took a lot of B twenty
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nine super Fortresses and flew it directly over their heads
while they were signing the documents. So this is not
something new. We didn't reinvent the wheel here, but it's
something countries do. Kind of a cool moment. Now, let's
move on to today. Zelenski shows up at the White
House and look, no matter what, it had to go better,
and it went last time.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to
end the destruction of your country.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yes, but if you President.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
With respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come
to the Oval Office to try to litigate this in
front of the American media. Right now, you guys are
going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because
you have manpower problems. You should be thanking the President
for every to bring it into this company.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I've been to Ukraine that you say, what problems we have.
I have been to well come once.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I've actually I've actually watched and seen the stories, and
I know what happens is you bring people, you bring
them on.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
A propaganda tour. Mister President, you will feel it. You
don't know that. God bless You're not blessed.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
You don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
You gotta don't tell us what we're gonna feel. We're
trying to solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're
going to feel. You're not in a good positions. You
don't have the cards right now with us. You start
having right now, you don't wear your planes. You're gambling
with the lives of millions of people. You're gambling with
World War three.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Not great. So let's focus on how it went today.
Here's just a little cut up of the biggest moments
from the White Hot or from the Old Office.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
If everything works out well today, we'll have a try lad,
and I think there will be a reasonable chance of
ending the war when we do that.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
But we're gonna work with Ukraine, We're gonna work with everybody,
and we're gonna make sure that if this piece a
piece is going to stay long term. This is very
long term we're not talking about a two year piece
and then we end up in this mess again.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
So let me just give you my opinion on a
couple of things. First, I am extremely skeptical that this
will end in peace, extremely skeptical. I just the different
sides have different motivations. Putin right now has a hold
of the land he wants and I can't get him
out of it. What motivation does he have? Zolensky has
(04:24):
gotten world famous and very very rich, and Zolensky doesn't
want to have an election once we get to in
a moment, Why does Zelensky want it to end? I mean,
maybe he's a super patriotic Ukrainian, But to be honest,
the war has worked out pretty well for Zelensky. I
just don't know. It's very difficult to end a war. Historically,
(04:46):
it's difficult to bring two sides together an end a
war super peace, come up with an agreement. It's very difficult.
So I'm cynical. I am, I'm skeptical. But but Donald
Trump has done wonderful things on the world stage. He
has he deserves all the credit in the world for it.
And if this war was about to end, it would
(05:08):
go exactly like it's going right now, meet with Putin,
hash some things out, meet with Zelensky, hash some things out.
Trump gets on the phone with Putin. Afterwards, let's come
up a meeting time. But if it's going to end,
we're going through all the steps we're going through to
end it. So let's hope it ends. I do want
to touch on one thing though, that is a very
(05:30):
very big thing before we bring in Francis Martel to
talk about the nitty gritty of Europe's motivations and Russia's
motivations and everything else. Something Zelensky said today about the
fact that Ukraine is not having elections here, he was.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Upon peace, God, will let me get peace.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Are you open to holding an election in your country?
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Yes, of course, we're all open for Electionally, yes, we
have to do safety circumstances.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
And a little bit.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
We need to work in the amount because during the
war you can't have elections, but we can. We can't
do security.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
We need maybe.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
How to say, we need a truth yes everywhere in
the battlefield in the sky and to see, yeah, to
make possible for people to to do democratic, open, legal,
legal elections.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
So okay, why haven't had elections. Constitution says they can't
have them during martial law. Zolensky's the one who declared
martial law. Now, I don't want to sit and drop
all this in Zelenski's lap. Martial law in part is
because Russia is flying drones into civilian populations, rockets and missiles,
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so you're trying to keep people inside. I understand all that.
I understand that this is a much more complicated situation
than the Internet would have you. Believe. My point on
this is you should always have elections, and the most
important time to have elections is during a war. That's
the most important time during a war. Why because Zelensky
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isn't going to die, He's in really no physical danger here.
But legions in legions of Ukrainians are dying. Legions in
legions of Ukrainian mothers now have lost their sons, wives
have lost their husbands, children have been orphaned. The Ukrainian
people are doing the dying and the suffering. And in
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a free country, the people doing the dying and the
suffering should have a say in who is leading their
country during the dying and the suffering. Otherwise it's not
a free country. It's a tyranny, and don't tell me
about Russia has this much Ukrainian territory or Ukrainian people
(07:52):
have left. We had an election here during the Civil War.
I don't want to hear it. Have an election, give
the people a say. Anyway, let's talk to Francis joining
me now, Breitbart International News editor, one of our favorites here,
Francis Martel. Okay, Francis, everybody understands all the internet talking
(08:13):
points with the Putin meeting and the flyover now Zelensky
from today, but the actual real news, the real information.
Can you walk us through what has been happening in
the past several days, weeks? What's the progress? Is their progress?
Is this all? What's what's going on?
Speaker 8 (08:32):
So yeah, I mean there's a lot of information that
is unconfirmed, right, so the stuff actually coming from the Kremlin,
from the White House in Ukraine is not It's not
a whole lot, especially on the Russian side. We got
that amazing meeting with Putin on Friday where Trump brought out,
you know, the biggest hardware we have basically to scare him,
(08:55):
and now he has Zelensky in the White House, and
all we're hearing is that we are working tow a
trilateral meeting. What we want to do is get Puin
and Trump and Zelenski in the same room to work
something out. And Trump has ruled out a ceasefire because
he doesn't trust either side to actually.
Speaker 7 (09:11):
Adhere to a ceasefire. So now what we want is
a permanent piece.
Speaker 8 (09:15):
Of some sort. That is what the White House is pushing.
And then we have the Europeans. There's parade of European
leaders that are going to the White House today to
protect their own interests, which include buying Russian fossil fuels.
So they're in the mix too, but they're kind of sidelined.
And now we're just waiting to see what happens with
the Zolenski meeting.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Okay, I'm sorry, Francis, but I'm going to just suck
every bit of knowledge out of your head as possible
as I try to understand all the players in this game.
Let's focus on what I think is the least important
entity you just mentioned, the European leaders. Okay, they want
Zelenski to fight on so forever. At the same time
they're buying Russian gas. Can you please, Untie this knot
(09:56):
for me. I'm an idiot and I'm confused.
Speaker 8 (09:59):
So there are two competing interests here, right, There is
the Western European interest in buying cheap Russian oil and gas,
especially as the winter is coming up. August is a
great time to get rid of some sanctions to get
some cheap fuel for the winter, right. And then there's
the Eastern European concern that Russia is going to keep
invading things. Vladimir Putin has a terrible record of not
(10:22):
invading things. It's not just Ukraine, it's regions of Georgia
that he's invaded several times. He's threatened multiple states, and
he's been pretty open about his lament about the fall
of the Soviet Union. So you have countries like the
Baltics and like Poland that are very worried about throwing
Russian military aggression. And then you have the Western Europeans
(10:43):
like France and Germany that are saying that they're worried
about that, But what they're really worried about is their
own people heating their.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
Homes in the winter.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Okay, so they want the war to stop.
Speaker 8 (10:59):
I think they want the same to be lifted the
Western Europeans, and if the war keeps going.
Speaker 7 (11:03):
It's not really their business.
Speaker 8 (11:05):
Ideally, if the war ends, that would be good for them,
but there's no major compelling Western European interest to end
the war. The interest is to lift the sanctions that
are a result.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Of the war.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Okay, now let's shift to Russia here, and I'm gonna
I guess I'll make probably a couple of statements with
my question. As you know, feel free to tell me
I'm a moron and I got it wrong. Putin has
roughly fifteen percent of you. Putin has roughly fifteen percent
of Ukraine. He appears to have most or all of
the parts of Ukraine he wanted to have. And he
(11:40):
is not, from my understanding, politically unpopular back home. What's
his incentive to deal anything?
Speaker 7 (11:51):
Well, I think he.
Speaker 8 (11:52):
You know, the premise that he's politically unpopular at home
or politically popular at home is based you know, on
a lot of Russian dubious surveys, and also on the
fact that a lot of the people are at home
are still you know, it's middle aged and older. I
think young people in Russia are extremely frustrated with their
economic situation. They're growing isolation, and the fact that all
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these young men are being sent out to Ukraine.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
But at the same time.
Speaker 8 (12:17):
Those young men, if they were at home, they would
have pretty limited economic prospects. You know, the same birth
rate situation that every developing country is having is happening
in Russia. And so there is this risk that I
think does fuel part of Putin's drive to keep the
war going of young able bodied men in Russia getting
(12:37):
frustrated seeing the government as tyrannical and actually organizing a
viable opposition to Putin, and I think getting rid of
those guys, giving them something else to do, namely going
to war that benefits Putin tremendously.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Okay, so Zelenski we've heard today Zelenski's kind of have
to give up Crimea, which is kind of hilarious. He's
already given it up, and he can't join and he
can't join NATO. So why would Zelensky ended What incentivizedes
Zelensky to end it?
Speaker 8 (13:14):
I think, you know, on his end, personal reasons are
probably the biggest. He hasn't really been able to live
with his wife and kids since the war started, but
also the same fear of his own people that Putin has,
and with that it goes both ways, right, because the
Ukrainian people tend to, you know, when we do look
at protests even that have happened against Selenski, they're worried
(13:34):
that too much concession means that Putin is going to
keep the war going.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
They want the war to.
Speaker 8 (13:39):
End, but they think that conceding might not necessarily lead
to that, it might expand the war.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
So he has to deal with that.
Speaker 8 (13:45):
But he also has to deal with the widows and
the orphans and the people that are tired of running
away from this war and they want some sort of
stability in their lives. And I think that if they
don't see that Zelensky is working towards peace in a
good faith matter, if the impression starts to look like
Zelenski's prolonging the war, for example, to avoid having an
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election or for his own personal interests, then he's going
to have a serious problem on his hands. The Ukrainian
people are not shy about overthrowing their presidents and kicking them.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
Out of the country.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Okay, let's talk about that not having an election thing.
The world has understood and accepted that Vladimir Putin is
a tyrant of all my problems I have with Putin. Honestly,
that's my biggest problem. He won't have elections. He keeps
arresting his political opposition. That's a tyrant to me, and
I hate tyrants. Zelensky is done the same, has he not.
(14:38):
I don't like it. It looks bad. And I know
he said today you can't have an election during a war.
I think that's the most important time to have an election.
Speaker 7 (14:47):
Yeah, I mean, I agree with you completely.
Speaker 8 (14:49):
I think the difference between Zelenski and Putin, though, is
the Ukrainian Constitution.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
The Ukrainian Constitution is a mess.
Speaker 8 (14:55):
Ukraine has been a country since you know, the early nineties,
so this is a very experimental text. And the constitution
actually does ban elections during military rule. So for him
to legally hold an election, he would have to lift
martial law. And he's saying, I can't lift martial law
if there's Russian drone strikes all over these apartment buildings
in eastern Ukraine, I simply cannot do it. Similarly, the
(15:18):
Ukrainian Constitution doesn't allow like deals to switch control of
land from one place to another, and I think it
was just it's a poorly written document.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
At this point, I think Ukraine should strongly consider just
rewriting the whole thing.
Speaker 8 (15:31):
And I'm the last person that would come out and say,
you know, the solution to this is throwing away the
constitution in most countries, but the Ukrainian constitution is deeply flawed,
and it's convenient for Zelenski.
Speaker 7 (15:43):
But it is also just a reality that this document
is no good.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Okay, Now, security guarantees. We continue to hear this internet buzzword.
We need security guarantees. They're going to provide security guarantees, right,
could you expand on that past the two words, what
does that mean?
Speaker 8 (16:03):
Security guarantees are threats to Russia to prevent Russia from
invading again, essentially making the cost of invasion so high
that the Russians won't do it because the cost benefit
doesn't work. And it's direct, it's implicitly vague. It's intentionally
vague because no one wants to give the security guarantees.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Right.
Speaker 8 (16:25):
The biggest security guarantee that Ukraine had was its nuclear weapons,
and they gave that up. And we've seen every nation
that gives up nuclear weapons essentially have a massive political
upheaval and then chaos. Obviously, Libya is the main example.
But Ukraine had a similar situation where you know, if
they had nuclear weapons, that would be a security guarantee
(16:47):
Russia would not invade that country, and that is not
the case here, and obviously there's no replacing those nukes,
So then that leaves open, Okay, what is a security guarantee?
And I think what Ukraine wanted initially was joining NATO,
which would essentially be like regaining nukes, because if Article
five is triggered, then nuclear armed states would be in a.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
Conflict with Russia.
Speaker 8 (17:09):
But none of the states that would have to poney
up to answer to Article five want to do that.
No one wants to engage in a nuclear powered war
with Russia. So that leaves a major question of what
these guarantees are and right now we don't really know.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Okay. Now, finally, if this thing collapses, if there's no Triland,
and if there's no trilateral meeting where they walk away
with a peace agreement, let's stop killing each other. Little
land for you, little land for me. If that does
not happen, And if I sound skeptical, it's because I am.
Where do we go from here? Trump has threatened both
(17:48):
sides with fairly vague terms. But what happens from.
Speaker 8 (17:52):
Here, Well, I think the biggest question for Ukraine is
what is the United States going to do about all
this money we're spending about this, And I think Trump's
solution to that has been make the Europeans pay for it,
and you know, to add to your cynicism, I think
the big result of it would be the war would
continue in an isolated spot of Ukraine. They just decide
(18:13):
this piece of the Dombas is where we're going to
keep having war, but we're going to stop bombing each
other in other civilian areas. And the Europeans are probably
going to start buying a lot of Indian oil, which
is essentially Russian crud that has been refined in India,
so they can get their cut without violating the sanctions.
And Trump can sell American weapons to the Europeans that
(18:35):
they have the money for because they're buying cheaper Indian
Russian oil, and then it goes on and on and on.
That is a very possible situation here where we just
see this go on indeterminately until either, you know, one
or two of the leaders of these countries either die
or get replaced, and then we'll see what happens. This
is you know, this is a ten year plus old
(18:57):
war at this point, and we've seen wars go for
far longer, you know, Afghanistan probably being the record. But
it's very likely that if this doesn't succeed, we're just
going to see more trudging through this violence with with
no real clear definition of victory.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Well, that's freaking awful. By the way, how are things
in Afghanistan this year?
Speaker 8 (19:21):
They're rough, They're rough. The Taliban just celebrated they're four
years in power and they are actually doing pretty well.
Russia is the only country in the world that recognizes
the Taliban as a government, but they demanded last week
that President Trump gave them the Afghan embassy back in Washington.
They're getting very cozy with China. And the lives of
(19:41):
Afghans are horrible. Women can't leave their homes. Essentially, there's
a tremendous poverty. The farming is a disaster. It's not good,
it's it's a really horrible situation.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Well, if you can't trust the Jihati to run your economy,
then who can you trust. Francis, Thank you so much,
I appreciate it. Well, that was all awful. There's a
lot of people dying, and life's really bad in a
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(21:21):
I want to talk about communist mentality here, how they
think versus how we think. We try to have these
conversations as off as humanly possible right here on. I'm
right because it helps me, it helps you understand not
what we're seeing, why we're seeing what we're seeing, Why
are the communists doing this, why are they doing that?
(21:44):
And so so often the right still does not understand it.
And really the main principle behind why we oftentimes don't
understand what we're up against is we think we're up
against democrats, liberals, people on the left, when in reality
(22:04):
we are up against a conquering religion of destruction. And
it doesn't matter, It doesn't matter whether you see them
that way, actually doesn't matter. But that's how they see themselves.
They see themselves as conquerors. They are marching forward. They
are trying to vanquished evil and what is evil? Everything good,
(22:27):
everything that is awesome, the United States of America Family
Church right wrong. They're trying to vanquish all that, eliminate
it all, and so they are conquering. That's what they
are doing. And you can tell the right still does
not understand why the communist does the things he does.
And you know, I'm gonna actually use the NFL of
(22:48):
all things as a great example of this. The Minnesota
Vikings rolled out some gay cheerleader. Now, there have always
been male cheerleaders, the high school, college, whatever, always been
male cheerleaders. They're always these big, huge, stocky dudes who
toss women around. You know that most of the times
they're the most alpha guys out there. Not this one.
(23:09):
This one is as flamboyant and feminine like as humanly possible.
And I watched NFL fans all weekend since this announcement
say things like why why are they doing this? Why
are they doing this that the Panthers have a training cheerleader.
Speaking of the NFL, they put out a message that
(23:29):
they're forcing teams to have things like end racism and
choose love in the end zone. And people on the
right are confused because they're saying, why why can't I
just watch the game? Why can't they just leave me alone?
Why can't we just enjoy sports? Why do they have
to do this? I love this stuff? Why can't they
(23:51):
just leave it alone? But you see, you just answered
your question. He answered your own question. They can't leave
it alone because you love it. Don't think for a
single second that the communist has conquered things you care
(24:13):
about by accident. That is just kind of out there
conquer again everything, and hey, just happened to stumble whoopsie
into that thing that you enjoy with family and friends
on a Sunday afternoon in November. Don't think it was
an accident at all. If you do, you do not
understand the way the communist thinks. Allow me to explain
(24:36):
this as it pertains to entertainment, because we'll move on
to a couple other things that are important, But as
it pertains to entertainment. Entertainment is a critically important part
of culture, every single culture, not just American culture. It's easy,
especially for people like me, to be dismissive of it. Oh,
no one cares what this actor says. No one cares
(24:58):
about sports, knowing that's the it's not important. Can't we
just talk about Texas? Very easy to say things like that,
But entertainment has always been an important part of every
single culture. Entertainment does things to a culture, beneficial things,
extremely beneficial things. Greek mythology. You know about Greek mythology, right,
(25:20):
Zeus and Apollo, and you know about Greek mythology where
the gods and Mount Olympus and you know all those stories,
the stories of Icarus Fly, include Too Close to the Sun,
and you know all the crazy stories. Fascinating stories, aren't
they wonderful? Great read even today? But what was the
point of them? Because they're very old and they performed
(25:45):
those stories, they read them to each other, they performed
them in plays in Greek auditoriums. Why because there are
important lessons to be had from those stories, teaching society
lessons everything greed, jealousy, lust, bravery, good lessons, bad lessons.
(26:07):
Entertainment matters. Hollywood, American Hollywood used to be. You know
John Wayne films, tough guy, you be brave, you'd be tough,
die on, behalf of women and children if you have
to fight against evil. That was important. It mattered. I've
told you before, John Wayne movies helped shape my moral upbringing.
I know it's wild, but it's true. The NFL, what
(26:29):
about sports? Critical part of entertainment. Sports not only trains
young men to be more physical, learn team We're actually
in young women. Be more physical, learn teamwork, learn hard work.
Sports is wonderful for a society. My sixteen year old
gets up every single day now five am, feeds himself breakfast,
(26:50):
drives himself to practice that's learning hard work values that'll
carry him the rest of his life. It's not just
that sports brings that Sports is a unifying part of society,
unifying part of society. Don't think that this is just America.
Did you know that in ancient room the chariot races
were the biggest thing around, and that there were teams,
(27:13):
just like today, when the Yankees play the Red Sox
or the Patriots played the Chargers, there were teams. There
would be red team or blue team, and you would
wear your team's jersey and you'd argue about it, and
you'd show up at the chariot races. Why it brings
people together. No more distractions, no more politics, no more
let's go together and see something amazing. See entertainment. Root
(27:34):
for my side, root against your side. Sports matter a lot,
the NFL in particular. Maybe you're an NFL fan, Maybe
you don't care about it, and I haven't watched it
in years. I used to be the biggest NFL fan
in the world. They turned me off of all the
Black Lives Matter stuff. But whether or not you're a
fan doesn't matter. The NFL is enormous. There was a
time back when I was watching NFL. And I don't
(27:57):
know that it's still this way. It probably is. The
nine of the ten most watched TV shows every year
were NFL games. NFL is enormous, people love it, people
watch it well. The communists. He can see TV ratings too.
He's not gonna let that go. If this is an
(28:18):
important sport that matters to people, where Americans sit down
and watch it, you have to think like a demonic conqueror.
That's what the communist is. If it entertains people, if
it brings people together, if it teaches values, he's going
to conquer it. And they did. They started working their
way through the NFL offices, of course, hiring the latest
(28:41):
communists from Stanford, latest communists from Columbia, and they worm
their way like the virus. They are through the good,
wonderful things. We love the NFL offices. And now on
Sunday you have to explain to your son and your
daughter why there's some complain flaming homosexual acting like a
(29:02):
woman with the other woman cheerleaders on the Minnesota Vikings field.
Don't dismiss it as nothing. It is something, and they
did it on purpose. I've brought this up before, that's
why they did the boy Scouts the Girl Scouts. It's
kind of a weird thing, right you see this story
girl Scout troop leader was removed because she refused to
(29:25):
promote gender sexuality alliance clubs in New Jersey.
Speaker 9 (29:31):
Here's one mom, and we saw kind of a change
in our own town where they would have town events
at a church that actually displayed pride flags, progressive pride flags.
They had a trance identifying thirteen year old come and
do a event there, promising you know, music, ice cream, pizza.
(29:58):
And I couldn't even bring my troops at these town
events because it was completely inappropriate for children to see.
They shouldn't be around anything sexual. I called them out
on it this past June. They said, you know, all
the troops are going to be doing this, LGB. You know, however,
many letters are in that and encouraging that all of
(30:20):
the town troops would be doing it, saying, yes, Parkridge,
you know encourages this. And I shared it because a
lot of parents were quite upset. They said, you know,
one parent and my husband wants me to pull my
daughter out of girls.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Why would they do Why Girl Scouts can't they just
leave that alone. Girl Scouts are important used to be
teaching young women values, incredibly important values. Did you think
the Communist is going to let that go? Communist doesn't
think that way. We have to start understanding better how
(31:00):
he thinks and why he does the things he does
before we will ever be able to take them on.
Remember that, all right, and look, speaking of corporate values,
I have bad news for you. The Communists has wormed
his way all the way up the chain and Verizon
at and T and T Mobile. If you still support
(31:24):
these companies with your money, you're giving money to all
this disgusting filth. That's why you need to switch to
pure talk, because the Communist has been barred from the
doors at pure Talk. Pure Talk their CEO is a veteran.
He doesn't tolerate this nonsense. Pure talk is so American.
They hire Americans. You can keep your phone or get
(31:45):
a new one. Keep your phone number. Switching is easy
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Speaker 10 (32:06):
Hey everybody, welcome back to my substack. Last week's cold
turns out to have been COVID, quite a flashback, and
Donald Trump is still president and still humiliating America on
a national stage standing next to Vladimir Putin. It's like
a dream, a bad dream you can't wake up from.
But I don't want to talk about that bad dream
this week. I want to talk about a truly inspirational
(32:28):
public figure named Taylor Swift. I'm in a family's swifty
group Chap. I know all her music and I listened
to it in my headphones when I cut the grass.
While our elderly makeup covered president is posting about whether
Taylor Swift is still hot and declaring that he can't
stand her. What's she doing living her best life, producing
(32:50):
great music and, as she urged all of us to
do during the podcast, not giving the jerks power over
her mind. She said something about dealing with internet trolls
that stuck with me. Think of your energy as if
it's expensive, she said, as if it's like a luxury item.
Not everyone can afford it.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Joining me now. Liz Wheeler, host of The Liz Wheeler Show,
Liz that gentleman was the former head of the Federal
Bureau of Investigation. Does it seem like the leaders of
the West lack a certain level of seriousness today? Or
(33:36):
is that just be Is that just me being an
old curmudgeon? Do we lack seriousness?
Speaker 11 (33:42):
James Comy is a freak. He is a freak. I
watched the entire five minute video of James Comy drooling
fanboying over Taylor Swift. Five minutes of my life I
will never get back. Do you understand the math here?
Do you understand how creepy this is? He talks about
(34:03):
going to his first Taylor Swift concert fourteen years ago
or something like that. Do you know how old Taylor
Swift was. She would have been like nineteen or twenty,
and he was a fifty year old man. That's really
really creepy.
Speaker 7 (34:18):
It's so weird to me.
Speaker 11 (34:20):
But here's the thing, Jesse, James Comy is different than
a lot of other swamp creatures. Like a lot of
swamp creatures are really dumb. Peter Strack is a good example,
Like he was obviously just used as a patsy. He's stupid,
he's a sheep, he's a follower. They wanted him to
commit the crime so that they had plausible deniability. James
Comy is not like that. James Comy is actually a
(34:41):
very strategic thinker, he's just a bad person, so he
uses his intelligence for bad things. For example, think about
when he posted on his Instagram that rock Formation eighty
six forty seven and then pretended, oh, I thought that
with someone's street address.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
No, you didn't.
Speaker 11 (34:57):
You're the former FBI director. You know the situation and
is killing President Trump. You're You're not stupid. You just
think we're stupid. But the reason he did that he
knew when he posted that that it would create backlash.
He knew he would get a visit from the Secret Service,
but he had no intention of killing Trump, so they
would leave. He knew he would not face charges, and
he knew he would get questioned by even mainstream media
(35:19):
about it and it would lead to selling books because
it was the week before his book was released, so
he was like four or five steps ahead of the
actual action that he was taking. That's how I interpret
this video of him drooling over tailor shift. Yes he's
a freak, Yes he's a creep. Yes our leaders are unserious.
But the question in my mind about this video is
(35:40):
why why did James call me post this video? Because
I know that it's just step one in some other plot.
Speaker 7 (35:47):
What's coming next?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I'm glad you brought that up, Liz, because I've been
wondering this about this myself. John Brennan, who rumor has it,
is probably most in jeopardy of possibly going to Jay
with this whole Russia hoax investigation stuff. His stupid fat
faces all over the television set every time I turn
it on. Nobody facing a serious legal trial would run
and do interviews all the time. No lawyer worth their
(36:12):
salt would allow their clients to do that. Yet he is.
Why is he unafraid? Why is James Comy unafraid? I'm
nervous to even ask you, but why aren't any of
these people afraid?
Speaker 11 (36:26):
Because Republicans are weak. Republicans are impotent. Republicans are afraid
to actually play to win. They know the Democrats can
commit crimes, and they know that they will get away
with those crimes because they have gotten away with crimes
for decades and decades. Because Republicans are so nice. Republicans
want to be gentlemen and get drinks after arguing on
(36:47):
the floor of Congress. They want to be bipartisan. They
don't want to target their political enemies because that's not
what our country was meant to do, and the result
of this is we get steamrolled over and over and
Overthink about how long James Comy and John Brennan have
been swamp creatures, how many years they have committed crimes
against the American people and gotten away with this. They
(37:09):
know that they can go on MSNBC or what's it
called now ms now, I don't even know what that's
supposed to stand for. More stupidity now. Probably they can
go on these media outlets, and these media outlets are propagandists.
They run cover for the criminals as long as the
crimes are committed against you and against me. So it's
not courage or confidence that causes these confidence and justice
(37:33):
I should say that causes James Comy and John Brennan
to go on media on a media tour when they
are facing what should be charges. It's confidence that Pambondi's
Department of Justice is at the very at the most
Significant'm gonna get a little slap on the wrist for
a perjury charge.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Uh, that's you know what. Let's shift gears and talk
about something wonderful, the mental illness and the Democrat Party
here was Dome sing your way through a little interview.
Speaker 12 (38:01):
I think what they're doing is they're cheating. I think
they're cheating. They want to change the current system to
make it bend toward the outcome they want. And so
you know, if you believe the public reporting, they get
a call that says, hey, redo your lines, even though
(38:22):
the fallout is going to include exactly what you said,
which is, you know, taking the franchise the vote away
from specific communities and in the case of Texas, Latino
and black voters yea.
Speaker 7 (38:37):
And diluting their votes.
Speaker 12 (38:40):
And this is not a sentence year, but this is
a year with the big, beautiful bill and then the
unpopularity of it, and so they want to then the
rules and I and I have to say that, you know,
those Texas, those Texan legislators it for them.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
It's the music that kills me, the dramatic music.
Speaker 11 (39:06):
Put that music on there, hire them, hire them as
a producer.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
I know.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Let's tell her they are just a bunch of theater kids,
aren't they, Liz. That's in the end, that's what It's
so much drama all the time.
Speaker 11 (39:24):
I mean, listen, look at the table in front of
Kamala Harris. There are two glasses sitting in front of her.
One is filled with water and the other one is empty.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yeah. Yeah, that pretty much says it all. By the way, Oh,
I have to ask you about this joy and Reed
who got fired from MSNBC not for saying kooky things
like this. She went on TV. She said this.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
They can't fix the history they did. Their ancestors made
this country into a slave a slave hill. But they
can clean it up now because they got the Smithsonian.
They can get rid of all the slavery stuff they got,
prager you, they can lie about the history to the children.
They can't originally invent anything more than they ever were
able to invent good music. We black folk gave y'all
(40:14):
country music, hip hop, R and B, jazz, rock and roll.
They couldn't even invent that. But they have to call
a white man the king because they couldn't make rock
and roll, So they have to stamp the king on
a man whose main song was stolen from an overweight
black woman.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Liz, I feel like the country's kind of done with this,
this kind of race bading branding. I think the George
Floyd protests tapped out America's energy for it. It just doesn't
seem to get traction anymore? Am I wrong?
Speaker 11 (40:48):
I mean, I had a little bit of a hard
time following her convoluted thinking and speaking, to be perfectly honest,
but it seemed to me that she was saying that you,
as a white man, Jesse, are to blame for all
sins of all white men in all bygone eras, which
is ridiculous. It's one of the reasons actually, those that
kind of ridiculous thinking. It's a false accusation, right we
(41:10):
as human beings. One of the worst accusations you can
face is being racist. And it's a good thing that
that's one of the worst accusations. No one wants to
be racist because it's dehumanizing another child of God, and
so in our country it is the worst accusation you
can face is to be racist, which is why the
left often falsely accuses people of that, because they are
trying to assassinate people's character beyond the point of no return.
(41:33):
But the problem is that when you do this so
often to so many innocent people, eventually people realize, Hey,
I don't have to take this. I don't want my
children taught this. I don't want this racialism to be
the foundation of our society, and they went the left,
went too far with this critical race theory stuff, and
they are suffering the backlash. And it's a good backlash.
(41:54):
It's not just personal or professional backlash. It is a
reclaiming of justice and a reclaim of equality in our country,
both governmentally and in our culture. And Joyanne Read is
a perfect example of that.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Liz, thank you, ma'am. I appreciate it. We have light
in the mood. Before we lighten the mood. Let me
make your tomorrow better and the day after that, the
day after that and the day after that. You know
how I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna give you a
good night's sleep. Well, I mean, I'm not beam is
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dream powder from beam? It's life changing taking something to sleep.
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And what do all those things have in common? Every
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(42:51):
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(43:14):
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all right. It is time to lighten the mood. And
(43:36):
I do love it that every part of the right,
every part of society, seems to be more willing now
than they ever were to give it right back to
the filthy communists. You see, these filthy communists have been
used to being the only aggressor in every social setting.
That's why your liberal ant Pegy used to show up
at Thanksgiving screaming about her fifteenth abortion. And now she's
(43:56):
a little bit more quiet because the right has had
enough in joy an ice agent telling some tubby comedy.
That's exactly what she is. I see them all, hm
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