September 8, 2025 • 37 mins
9/11 as a major turning point in the world. Haiti vs Yemen. Where should a young man move. Medal of Honor: Joseph Timothy O’Callahan.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is a Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of the
Jesse Kelly Show, and it is sure to be a
blast of an hour because not only are we about
to do Medal of Honor Monday, as we always do,
we'll get to that in a minute. A half hour
from now, the tournament of tournaments begins. What is the
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crappiest country in the world. There are so many Well,
the only way to figure it out is to have
a competition, and that competition starts tonight on the world
famous Jesse Kelly Show. Don't shake your head, Chris. Before
we get to that, and we'll do some other stuff.
We'll talk about JB. Pritzker talking about subversives in our government.
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We'll get to some emails and things, but that's not
for right now. You know what right now is. It's
the start of the second hour on Monday, and that
means it's Medal of Honor Monday time. Every Monday, at
this time, we do the same thing. We honor a hero.
We learn about his name, his hometown, his deeds, and
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we tell our children about them out of respect for
what he did and to let them know that's who
you want to be, that's who you want to be.
And this one is he's a navy guy, Joseph Timothy O'Callahan,
And I'll get to what he did and a little
bit more depth for a moment, but or in a moment.
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But you've heard me complain several times on this show
that our elites in this country they don't actually go
fight anymore with the risk of dying. Oh, I know,
they'll do twenty five minutes in the National Guards scrambling eggs,
and then they'll run campaign ads of them in uniform
act and like their rambo. But it was not usually
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this way in the past. In the past, you were
expected to at some level have served your country, and
God forbid a war broke out, you served. And in fact,
all throughout history, elites in society, in the good ones
marched off to war with their troops. If the Romans
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lost to battle, senators plural died.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
A third of.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
The Roman Senate got wiped out by Hannibal in one battle.
A third. You know why, because they were there with
swords and shields in their hands. In America, it's not
this way anymore. But I want to I'm going to
read you a couple things about Joseph Timothy O'Callahan before
I Before I move on and talk about his citation,
I just wanted I want you to listen to this
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person's resume. This is not a person who had to
find himself under fire. This is a person who had
every excuse and could have gotten every exemption. Listen to
his schooling. Received a Bachelor of Arts degree in nineteen
twenty six. He next attended Western Massachusetts Philosophical School and
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then Jesuit He was a Jesuit Jesuit Seminary both in
Western Massachusetts and received degrees of Master of Arts in
nineteen twenty nine and a Bachelor of Sacred Theology in
nineteen thirty five. He studied further at Saint Robert's Seminary
in Connecticut, Georgetown University and specializing in mathematics and physics.
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He was a professor of mathematics, philosophy, and physics at
Boston College and then for a year was a professor
of philosophy at the Jesuit Seminy. Okay, I'm not even
going to continue on. This is a human being with
more degrees than Houston in July. Do you want to
hear about some awards. He was a member of many
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leading scientific societies, among them the American Physical Society, American
Mathematical Society and Mathematical Association, the American Statistical Society, Association
of Mathematical Statistics, Association of Jesuit Scientists, and the Jesuit
Philosophal of Philosophical Association. And he wrote a book. And
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yet all those credentials, all those degrees, and Joseph Timothy
O'Callahan did not consider himself too important to go off
to war. He found himself on the famous US S
Franklin under a comic coluzy attack that I wouldn't wish
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on anybody. So without further ado, let's find out what
he did.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Right, hey, honoring those who went above and beyond its
Medal of Honor Monday.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Born in Boston, Massachusetts, by the way, for conspicuous gallantry
in intrepidity at the risk of his life, above and
beyond the call of duty, while serving as chaplain on
board the USS Franklin, when that vessel was fiercely attacked
by enemy Japanese aircraft during offensive operations near Kobe, Japan,
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on the nineteenth of March nineteen forty five. And yes,
in case you're wondering, this is a kamikaze attack, A terrible,
terrible kamakazi attack. A valiant and forceful leader, calmly braving
the perilous the barriers, sorry, calmly braving the perilous barriers
of flame and twisted metal to aid his men and
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his ship. Lieutenant Commander O'Callahan groped his way through smoke
filled corridors to the open flight deck and into the
midst of violently floating bombs, shells, rockets, and other armament.
With the ship rocked by incessant explosions, with debris and
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fragments raining down, and fires raging in ever increasing fury,
he ministered to the wounded and dying, we'll get to
more of that in a second, Comforting and encouraging men
of all faith, He organized and led firefighting crews into
the blazing inferno. On the deck, He directed the jettisoning
of live ammunition and the flooding of the magazine. He
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manned a hose to cool hot armed bombs rolling dangerously
on the listing deck, continuing his efforts despite searing, suffocating smoke,
which forced men back grasping and or gasping and imperiled
others who replaced them. Serving with courage, fortitude, and deep
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spiritual strength, Lieutenant Commander O'Callahan inspired the gallant officers and
men of the Franklin to fight heroically and with profound
faith in the face of almost certain death, and to
return their stricken ship to poor couple things. First of all,
World War two is amazing for a lot of reasons.
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But here's a little amazing tidbit of it. There's so
much video. This was the area where we had video.
I when Jewish producer Chris set the citation in front
of my desk today, I remembered immediately I have actually
watched Joseph Timothy O'Callahan administering last rites to a dying
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sailor on the USS Franklin that day. There's video of it.
You are going to have to go seek that out
and look it up. I'm sure it's probably on YouTube
or something somewhere. I apologize deeply. I watched so many
documentaries I did not write down which one I saw
this in, but I'm sure it's in more than one.
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You can go look at this man standing over kneeling
over a man dying about to breathe his last administering
last rites. You can watch him do it, but it's
beyond that. Imagine your ship on fire. It's hell on Earth.
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There's fire everywhere, and all the explosive stuff on the
ship is blowing up because of the fire. You start
grabbing hot bombs and chucking them off the side of
the ship. Imagine carrying a bomb that might explode any moment.
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It said he flooded the magazine. Oh don't think for
a moment. That meant he pulled a lever. He manned
the hose and took it down to remember, the magazine
is where all the i'll just call it blackpowder, a
bunch of explosives is going and if it blows up,
everyone's going to die. He takes a hose down there
and hoses the thing down so none of it will
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blow up. And this guy's a freaking chaplain. He is
a chaplain. He doesn't have a responsibility to do any
of this stuff. He's hosing down the magazine, he's carrying bombs,
and when he's not doing that, he's trying to bring
people to Jesus before they breathe their last breath on
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the USS Franklin, which suffered the worst comic caze attack
probably in all of World War Two. That's bravery and humility. Man,
if I had ever earned a Medal of honor, which
of course I could never have done. I don't have
that stuff in me. I'd wear it everywhere. What Chris,
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I'd wear it to the gas station. I would have
that thing on at all times, just doing nothing but
bragging about myself. That's what I would do. This guy,
he said his was exaggerated. How about that? All the
men talked about what he did, but for him, they
asked him about it. Oh, they blew that out of proportion.
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And he even said, this is not a direct quote,
but it's pretty close. He said, Oh, any priest would
have done what I did. No, no, sir, that's not
true at all. Lived until I believe it was nineteen
sixty four. He passed a terrible illness. We don't have
to get into the ugliness of it. So how about that?
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Not bad?
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Huh?
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It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Monday.
I'm so excited to be back at work, aren't you
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ten minutes away from the crappiest country in the world
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tournament beginning. Gosh, I'm so unreasonably excited. Hey, Bronco, what
did Alexander the Great's father use to scale impenetrable walls.
It seems that those city states had cracks that would
open with the application of a little bit of gold.
Sounds like bribery has been effective for a very long time. Well,
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I get the point you're making, and look, it's true.
It's not like the Alexander the Great spat Philip the
Second was the first, or the Mongols were always great
at this. The Chinese, it's wild. The Chinese are great.
They're well known to bribe everybody, including American politicians. They
have many in their pocket, but historically they were great
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at it. The Chinese always knew a well placed bribe
is as good as an army in certain cases. There
are many of these societies. You've heard of the Persians
or the achemitted Persian Empire. The Persians very famous, the Persians,
you know the Spartan three hundred. They thought the Persians anyway,
they were famous for that too. They had loads of
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money and they spread it everywhere. They bribed everybody. China
does this to this day. I mean, look at this headline.
This is from Freebeacon. Quote our Chinese friends. Lebron James
writes an op ed for a CCC mouthpiece involved in
a propagate and a campaign to deny the weaker genocide.
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That's from the Free Beacon. Well he signed a one
billion dollar Nike sneaker deal. Well there he was part
of one, and you got to sell those sneakers in China.
Little bit of cash here, a little bit of cash there.
American basketball star finds himself over there telling the whole
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world how wonderful the Chinese are. This is how it operates.
And I want to again remind you before I get
back to the emails, that Joe Biden's family they were
tied deeply to China, so deeply that his own his
dirtball song flew on Air Force two when Joe was
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Vice president to go meet with businessmen over there. Millions
of dollars have flowed from China into Biden family accounts.
The same Joe Biden who allowed a Chinese spy balloon
to fly from the Pacific to the Atlantic, gathering information
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as it paused over every one of our military bases.
He allowed it to traverse the entire country before he
shot it down. I don't even think we want to know.
I mean, of course we do. I don't think we
want to know just how bought American politicians are bought
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and paid for. Terrible Jesse. I want to ask you
about moving to a red state. I'm only seventeen, but
I live in the dark blue state of Colorado. It's
getting bad. I would wait until I'm married. But if
I do move, where should I go? My top three
right now are North Carolina, Tennessee, and Virginia. I love
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the show and what Chris he says, his name is Caleb.
All right, Caleb, I'm gonna give you some advice. One
you can't go wrong with North Carolina, Tennessee or West Virginia.
I've spent a ton of time in all three of
those states. I would move to any of those three
in a heartbeat. Love them, love them, love them. But
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you're seventeen saying you're gonna wait until you're married. If
I may make a suggestion, go to Tennessee if you
don't have a girlfriend already. Buddy, ten what Chris, I'm
helping the young buck out if it just hear me out,
young man. Tennessee's a good place to go. Track down
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a wife, little Southern woman. Great accents there, great great
fun scene. There's always a concert of some kind going on.
Great outdoors scene if you're a hunter, great deer hunting
in Texas. Great actually or Tennessee. Really just a great
outdoors place. Lakes Glore, Tennessee's worth looking into. Now. The
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problem is it's very similar to Florida, and that that
secret got out a few years ago and everyone moved
there and it's freaking expensive. Now, what Chris, What Chris said?
What's wrong with the Carolinas? Don't do that? Did I
say there was something wrong with the Carolinas? Chris? Is
that what I said? I didn't say that at all.
I love the Carolinas, pow love the Carolinas North and South,
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and it's so funny how much they hate each other.
They're always bickering about the low this and that. They're
always complaining. I love them both, absolutely love them both.
There's nothing wrong with the Carolinas. I mean, I would
recommend you stay out of Charlotte, but for the most part,
love the Carolinas. Tennessee's worth looking into if you're a
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young single man. Me I'm old and married, so I
worry about costs. Just like Jewish producer Chris we we
went last time we went to Nashville. We talked about, hey,
one day we could move to you know, the burbs.
Who wouldn't want to live in the city. We're not
really city people. Well, let's maybe get some property there,
move to the burbs. And then we looked at the
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it's time. What is the crappiest country in the world? Next?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
He doesn't care if you believe him, but he's right.
Jesse Kelly.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on an amazing Monday.
What a Monday. It has been Medal of Honor Monday.
We still have Clay Martin coming up next hour. He's
gonna teach us about fighting people in a house or
at least we're gonna talk about urban warfare with him.
It's gonna be awesome. There's just so much stuff to
get to on this show. But it's time. We've been
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talking about it for a week now. It's time for
the Tournament of Tournaments to crown the champion of champions.
Competition makes us all better or in this case, possibly worse,
because this is the twenty twenty five Jesse Kelly's show
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Crappiest Country in the World tournament, tournament, tournament. I'm not
sure how Look you can say it both ways, Chris.
In case you don't know, there are sixteen teams, everyone
from Afghanistan to Haiti to Italy to Somalia, the worst
places on the planet. We are halfway through the second hour,
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going to be rolling out a matchup every single day. Obviously,
this is a first round matchup today, and dare I
say it honestly, either one of these countries could be
a champion, could be as a worthy champion. But without
further ado, let's meet the contenders.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
It's the twenty twenty five Crappiest Country in the World competition.
Tonight's matchup is between Yemen and Haiti, brought to you
by koreerlines. Traveling stinks, not with curry.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Let's meet the contenders. We have Yemen. Yemen is such
a god forsaken dump that they flat out closed the
embassy there a decade ago and nobody even knew about it.
Civil war is everywhere. Seven out of ten people in
Yemen cannot even afford food, So look, at least obesity
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is not going to be a problem there. Crime is everywhere,
electricity virtually nonexistent. Medical care is a disaster. If you
find someplace that has medical care, it's probably not a
place you want to receive medical attention. And maybe the
worst part of this, and by the way, maybe the
worst part of this, because this country in the Human
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Development Index is one hundred and sixty eighth out of
one hundred and seventy seven. But in my opinion, the
worst part of Yemen is apparently there are land minds
all over the place. Combine that with the fact that
not only do people get kidnapped in Yemen, you can
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get kidnapped into Yemen in Yemen and forced into marriages.
Obviously this applies to women, and you know what exactly
what that means. That's slavery. If you happen to go
visit Yemen on a little vacation for spring break, you
may find yourself wearing a burka living a life of hell.
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But hey, the good news is, because of all the
land mines, it's gonna have to be a guy who's
into amputees. Yemen is most definitely a contender on the list.
But then we have Haiti. Haiti is a cursed land.
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Haiti was the site of some of the world I
know a lot about slavery, historical slavery, not just the
American slavery, the only one. You're an American professor taught
you about the slavery throughout history, from the Roman salt
mines to the slavery that wasn't that bad. You know,
you were the math tutor in the home too. I
know a lot about slavery in different forms of it.
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The slavery in Haiti sounds like some of the worst
I've ever heard in my entire life. The slaves they
had there because they were processing sugarcane, and it was
abusive and it was terrible, And honestly, I don't think
Haiti today is better than it was back when they
had slaves. That's what a disaster this country is from
AIDS to get this. This is from the US State
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Department's website. You want to know how prevalent kidnapping is
By the way, they'll just follow you right from the
airport and kidnap you. This happens so often that they
have instructions on getting to the nearest police station when
you notice somebody following you from the Portera Prince Airport.
Also on the US State Department's advice section for if
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you're traveling to Haiti, I kid you not, there is
advice on how you need to choose a family member
with whom the kidnappers can negotiate your ransom price. So
the bad news is you might be.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Murdered, raped, eaten, and chopped up with with a machete
and Haiti if you visit there. But the good news
is that sister you hate you can force her to
cough up some ransom money and cost her a fortune.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
So who's gonna wind.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
It's the twenty twenty five Crappiest Country in the World competition.
Tonight's matchups between Yemen and Haiti brought to you by Careerlines.
Traveling stinks, not with Curry.
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Drum roll, please, I'm just this is just my hands
in case you can't tell, it's my hands on the desk.
It's Haiti. It's Haiti. This is no look. If you're
in Yemen, I don't want you to take this as
any sign of disrespect. You are a horrible country, a
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dreadful place, one of the worst place is on the planet.
So don't think, don't think that your first round exit
from the tournament is in any way us being disrespectful.
But Haiti, they're on just a different level than most
of the others. Sorry, Emen, you are out of the tournament. Haiti, congratulations,
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this might be the only good thing that's ever happened
in the history of your country. You're moving on to
the second round. We'll continue on again tomorrow halfway through
the second hour, and I'm giving you a heads up
right now. You had a big say in Haiti winning.
Haiti was wide they voted on on the Jesse Kelly
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Show Twitter page. Tomorrow's matchup is going to be tight.
It's South Sudan. I believe South Sudan. It's Sudan versus Congo. Tomorrow,
Sudan versus Congo. A really an African war tomorrow, as
if that's anything new. So that'll be fun. Now let's
do some other stuff. Dear Fred the beaver Hunter's sidekick.
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You mentioned the assassination of Archiduke Ferdinand and was a
turning point in history, and I agree. There have been
a handful of major turning points in history, the life
of Jesus, crossing of the Rubicon, discovery of fossil fuels, etc.
What are your thoughts on nine to eleven as a
major change in the world order. It seems the West
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has lost its way since then, with the debt and
the endless wars and the moral decline. His name is
Paul Well, the War on Terror. Let's just stick with
that term because that's what most people know it as
the War on Terror. It came mostly after nine to eleven.
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You know, the Jihades were getting rolling in the seventies
and eighties, but nine to eleven was really there. That
was their super bowl. And after that Western countries, Europe
and America, Western countries decided they were going to do
something about it. It's time to go after these terrorists
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where they live. Now. As far as what did it
do to help us lose our way, we can have
a talk about that. I'm game to talk about that.
We can examine that together, and then we'll get back
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You're listening to the Jesse Kelly Show.
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You're welcome. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, fantastic,
fantastic money. I remember, you can email the show Jesse
at Jesse kellyshow dot com. So guy asked the question.
It's an interesting one. We'll get to JB. Pritzker here
in a moment and putin and g and Ma'm Donnie
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and other things. But the guy said, what are your
thoughts on nine to eleven as a major change in
the world order? Seems the West lost its way since then,
the debt, the endless wars, the moral declined, so on
and so forth. So did jihadis got Like I said,
they were getting rolling in the seventies and eighties, starting
to figure out that terror. Acts of terror were an
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effective way to move the needle in their direction. Nine
to eleven happens, obviously, just one of the worst days
anyone can remember. If you were alive that day, you
remember where you were. It was awful. Uh. From there,
we had to figure out how to fight it. And
here is Here is the truth about warfare. It has
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always been true and it will always be true. It's very, very,
very difficult to fight against anything, any people, any group
of people who are woven into the population. And this
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applies to way more than just she hatties. It's It's
happened so many times. And part of the reason is
not just that you have to go to their turf
to fight them, but when you go to their turf,
you are also just by proximity, you're on someone else's
turf too, and innocent person's turf too, And you might
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take some buddy who wasn't your enemy before and turned
them into a choice recruit for the other side, even
if it's inadvertent. All armies run into this problem, and
the Western powers making about us have run into this
over and over again. I'll give you an example right away,
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the first one that popped into my mind, a potential example.
I should say, remember We talked about it a lot
after the Abby Gate thing where we drone strike ten
innocent people and six of them were children. Now let
me ask you. Let's say you're a seventeen year old
male in Afghanistan. You are not a Jihati, you are
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not you're not part of al Qaeda, you're not part
of ISIS. But you are a seventeen year old male.
You you have a six year old little girl who
is your sister, who you love. You get a phone
call one tay that something terrible has happened. You have
to drive down to the house. Only when you get there,
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there's no more house. It's all rubble, and you have
to sift through the rubble, and you have to carry
the dead body of your six year old sister out.
And you find out not only did the Americans do it,
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they're not even sorry about it.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
How does it strike you that no one is held accountable?
Because I know how it strikes a lot of people
around the world that you can get away with murder
and nobody's punished for it.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
I do understand that we appreciate that not everybody's gonna
support this decision. What I can tell you is we
looked at this thing very, very comprehensively, and again we
acknowledge that there were procedural breakdowns, processes were not executed
the way they should have been, but it doesn't necessarily
indicate that an individual or individuals have to be held
to account for that.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Look, so this is more discipline inside the Pentagon at all.
I mean, maybe they're no charges brought up, but is
anyone demoted or disciplined for what happened?
Speaker 6 (34:07):
Then what we are going to do. There's not going
to be individual discipline as a result of this, really,
but what we are going to do is learn from this,
and we're going to enact and improve our procedures in
our processes to try to make sure this doesn't happen again.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
You're that seventeen year old kid, young full of testosterone.
That little girl was your sister. You hear that on
the news. What are you feeling in that moment? I
am not seventeen. I am forty four, and I'm telling
you right now, if anybody ever harmed a member of
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my family, I would kill them. I would not want
them arrested. I would find a way to kill them.
I would, and I have no problem with it. At all,
nothing at all, I would do it. Imagine that's seventeen
year old. He gets a knock on the door after that,
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and it's al Qaeda. Hey, I got a suicide vest here.
You want to go blow up fifty Americans? It's fifty
Americans right down there. Remember you want to you want
to look at a picture of your sister. Remember your sister.
I got fifty Americans right up the road. That's that's
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how hard it is to go into a place where
they're woven into society. And so what happened was fighting
the global War on Terror became a nightmare because they're
woven into so many parts of the cultures we were in.
And as you're there fighting the bad guys, even if
you're not the Biden administration, you are inadvertently creating more
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are bad guys.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
It happened.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
We ran into this exact same stuff in Vietnam. And
I don't want to make this just about us. Every
army who has tried to invade and tried to occupy
and defeat a a surgically selected portion of the of
the population, almost every army in history has failed at
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that because it's hard to separate the good from the bad.
And when you're trying to separate the good from the bad, you're.
Speaker 7 (36:28):
Inevitably killing the wrong people or this or that, and
you're creating more of the bad. It's just really, really
difficult to pull off, and it's what makes fighting against
jihad so incredibly difficult in a Muslim country, and all
Muslim countries are not Jihati, But in a Muslim country,
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you may not have a bunch of terrorists, but you
have guys who can become one with a little nudge here,
a little push there.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Maybe I'm bored, maybe I'm poor, maybe I'm this. Maybe
you killed my sister or someone who wear You're flagged it,
and now guess what, give me that freaking suicide gest
I'm ready to take some Americans out. And it ended
up being a multi trillion dollar with more blood, and
it ended up being a disaster. Yeah, you could argue
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it was a big turning point. Let's talk about JB.
Pritzker and Jijin Ping next.
This is a Jesse Kelly Show.
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It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of the
Jesse Kelly Show, and it is sure to be a
blast of an hour because not only are we about
to do Medal of Honor Monday, as we always do,
we'll get to that in a minute. A half hour
from now, the tournament of tournaments begins. What is the
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crappiest country in the world. There are so many Well,
the only way to figure it out is to have
a competition, and that competition starts tonight on the world
famous Jesse Kelly Show. Don't shake your head, Chris. Before
we get to that, and we'll do some other stuff.
We'll talk about JB. Pritzker talking about subversives in our government.
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We'll get to some emails and things, but that's not
for right now. You know what right now is. It's
the start of the second hour on Monday, and that
means it's Medal of Honor Monday time. Every Monday, at
this time, we do the same thing. We honor a hero.
We learn about his name, his hometown, his deeds, and
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we tell our children about them out of respect for
what he did and to let them know that's who
you want to be, that's who you want to be.
And this one is he's a navy guy, Joseph Timothy O'Callahan,
And I'll get to what he did and a little
bit more depth for a moment, but or in a moment.
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But you've heard me complain several times on this show
that our elites in this country they don't actually go
fight anymore with the risk of dying. Oh, I know,
they'll do twenty five minutes in the National Guards scrambling eggs,
and then they'll run campaign ads of them in uniform
act and like their rambo. But it was not usually
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this way in the past. In the past, you were
expected to at some level have served your country, and
God forbid a war broke out, you served. And in fact,
all throughout history, elites in society, in the good ones
marched off to war with their troops. If the Romans
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lost to battle, senators plural died.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
A third of.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
The Roman Senate got wiped out by Hannibal in one battle.
A third. You know why, because they were there with
swords and shields in their hands. In America, it's not
this way anymore. But I want to I'm going to
read you a couple things about Joseph Timothy O'Callahan before
I Before I move on and talk about his citation,
I just wanted I want you to listen to this
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person's resume. This is not a person who had to
find himself under fire. This is a person who had
every excuse and could have gotten every exemption. Listen to
his schooling. Received a Bachelor of Arts degree in nineteen
twenty six. He next attended Western Massachusetts Philosophical School and
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then Jesuit He was a Jesuit Jesuit Seminary both in
Western Massachusetts and received degrees of Master of Arts in
nineteen twenty nine and a Bachelor of Sacred Theology in
nineteen thirty five. He studied further at Saint Robert's Seminary
in Connecticut, Georgetown University and specializing in mathematics and physics.
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He was a professor of mathematics, philosophy, and physics at
Boston College and then for a year was a professor
of philosophy at the Jesuit Seminy. Okay, I'm not even
going to continue on. This is a human being with
more degrees than Houston in July. Do you want to
hear about some awards. He was a member of many
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leading scientific societies, among them the American Physical Society, American
Mathematical Society and Mathematical Association, the American Statistical Society, Association
of Mathematical Statistics, Association of Jesuit Scientists, and the Jesuit
Philosophal of Philosophical Association. And he wrote a book. And
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yet all those credentials, all those degrees, and Joseph Timothy
O'Callahan did not consider himself too important to go off
to war. He found himself on the famous US S
Franklin under a comic coluzy attack that I wouldn't wish
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on anybody. So without further ado, let's find out what
he did.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Right, hey, honoring those who went above and beyond its
Medal of Honor Monday.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Born in Boston, Massachusetts, by the way, for conspicuous gallantry
in intrepidity at the risk of his life, above and
beyond the call of duty, while serving as chaplain on
board the USS Franklin, when that vessel was fiercely attacked
by enemy Japanese aircraft during offensive operations near Kobe, Japan,
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on the nineteenth of March nineteen forty five. And yes,
in case you're wondering, this is a kamikaze attack, A terrible,
terrible kamakazi attack. A valiant and forceful leader, calmly braving
the perilous the barriers, sorry, calmly braving the perilous barriers
of flame and twisted metal to aid his men and
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his ship. Lieutenant Commander O'Callahan groped his way through smoke
filled corridors to the open flight deck and into the
midst of violently floating bombs, shells, rockets, and other armament.
With the ship rocked by incessant explosions, with debris and
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fragments raining down, and fires raging in ever increasing fury,
he ministered to the wounded and dying, we'll get to
more of that in a second, Comforting and encouraging men
of all faith, He organized and led firefighting crews into
the blazing inferno. On the deck, He directed the jettisoning
of live ammunition and the flooding of the magazine. He
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manned a hose to cool hot armed bombs rolling dangerously
on the listing deck, continuing his efforts despite searing, suffocating smoke,
which forced men back grasping and or gasping and imperiled
others who replaced them. Serving with courage, fortitude, and deep
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spiritual strength, Lieutenant Commander O'Callahan inspired the gallant officers and
men of the Franklin to fight heroically and with profound
faith in the face of almost certain death, and to
return their stricken ship to poor couple things. First of all,
World War two is amazing for a lot of reasons.
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But here's a little amazing tidbit of it. There's so
much video. This was the area where we had video.
I when Jewish producer Chris set the citation in front
of my desk today, I remembered immediately I have actually
watched Joseph Timothy O'Callahan administering last rites to a dying
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sailor on the USS Franklin that day. There's video of it.
You are going to have to go seek that out
and look it up. I'm sure it's probably on YouTube
or something somewhere. I apologize deeply. I watched so many
documentaries I did not write down which one I saw
this in, but I'm sure it's in more than one.
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You can go look at this man standing over kneeling
over a man dying about to breathe his last administering
last rites. You can watch him do it, but it's
beyond that. Imagine your ship on fire. It's hell on Earth.
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There's fire everywhere, and all the explosive stuff on the
ship is blowing up because of the fire. You start
grabbing hot bombs and chucking them off the side of
the ship. Imagine carrying a bomb that might explode any moment.
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It said he flooded the magazine. Oh don't think for
a moment. That meant he pulled a lever. He manned
the hose and took it down to remember, the magazine
is where all the i'll just call it blackpowder, a
bunch of explosives is going and if it blows up,
everyone's going to die. He takes a hose down there
and hoses the thing down so none of it will
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blow up. And this guy's a freaking chaplain. He is
a chaplain. He doesn't have a responsibility to do any
of this stuff. He's hosing down the magazine, he's carrying bombs,
and when he's not doing that, he's trying to bring
people to Jesus before they breathe their last breath on
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the USS Franklin, which suffered the worst comic caze attack
probably in all of World War Two. That's bravery and humility. Man,
if I had ever earned a Medal of honor, which
of course I could never have done. I don't have
that stuff in me. I'd wear it everywhere. What Chris,
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I'd wear it to the gas station. I would have
that thing on at all times, just doing nothing but
bragging about myself. That's what I would do. This guy,
he said his was exaggerated. How about that? All the
men talked about what he did, but for him, they
asked him about it. Oh, they blew that out of proportion.
(10:12):
And he even said, this is not a direct quote,
but it's pretty close. He said, Oh, any priest would
have done what I did. No, no, sir, that's not
true at all. Lived until I believe it was nineteen
sixty four. He passed a terrible illness. We don't have
to get into the ugliness of it. So how about that?
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Not bad?
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Huh?
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Exte some emails. We haven't done any of those. Remember
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All right, and also do remember do you have a
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It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Monday.
I'm so excited to be back at work, aren't you
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tournament beginning. Gosh, I'm so unreasonably excited. Hey, Bronco, what
did Alexander the Great's father use to scale impenetrable walls.
It seems that those city states had cracks that would
open with the application of a little bit of gold.
Sounds like bribery has been effective for a very long time. Well,
(12:54):
I get the point you're making, and look, it's true.
It's not like the Alexander the Great spat Philip the
Second was the first, or the Mongols were always great
at this. The Chinese, it's wild. The Chinese are great.
They're well known to bribe everybody, including American politicians. They
have many in their pocket, but historically they were great
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at it. The Chinese always knew a well placed bribe
is as good as an army in certain cases. There
are many of these societies. You've heard of the Persians
or the achemitted Persian Empire. The Persians very famous, the Persians,
you know the Spartan three hundred. They thought the Persians anyway,
they were famous for that too. They had loads of
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money and they spread it everywhere. They bribed everybody. China
does this to this day. I mean, look at this headline.
This is from Freebeacon. Quote our Chinese friends. Lebron James
writes an op ed for a CCC mouthpiece involved in
a propagate and a campaign to deny the weaker genocide.
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That's from the Free Beacon. Well he signed a one
billion dollar Nike sneaker deal. Well there he was part
of one, and you got to sell those sneakers in China.
Little bit of cash here, a little bit of cash there.
American basketball star finds himself over there telling the whole
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world how wonderful the Chinese are. This is how it operates.
And I want to again remind you before I get
back to the emails, that Joe Biden's family they were
tied deeply to China, so deeply that his own his
dirtball song flew on Air Force two when Joe was
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Vice president to go meet with businessmen over there. Millions
of dollars have flowed from China into Biden family accounts.
The same Joe Biden who allowed a Chinese spy balloon
to fly from the Pacific to the Atlantic, gathering information
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as it paused over every one of our military bases.
He allowed it to traverse the entire country before he
shot it down. I don't even think we want to know.
I mean, of course we do. I don't think we
want to know just how bought American politicians are bought
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and paid for. Terrible Jesse. I want to ask you
about moving to a red state. I'm only seventeen, but
I live in the dark blue state of Colorado. It's
getting bad. I would wait until I'm married. But if
I do move, where should I go? My top three
right now are North Carolina, Tennessee, and Virginia. I love
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the show and what Chris he says, his name is Caleb.
All right, Caleb, I'm gonna give you some advice. One
you can't go wrong with North Carolina, Tennessee or West Virginia.
I've spent a ton of time in all three of
those states. I would move to any of those three
in a heartbeat. Love them, love them, love them. But
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you're seventeen saying you're gonna wait until you're married. If
I may make a suggestion, go to Tennessee if you
don't have a girlfriend already. Buddy, ten what Chris, I'm
helping the young buck out if it just hear me out,
young man. Tennessee's a good place to go. Track down
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a wife, little Southern woman. Great accents there, great great
fun scene. There's always a concert of some kind going on.
Great outdoors scene if you're a hunter, great deer hunting
in Texas. Great actually or Tennessee. Really just a great
outdoors place. Lakes Glore, Tennessee's worth looking into. Now. The
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problem is it's very similar to Florida, and that that
secret got out a few years ago and everyone moved
there and it's freaking expensive. Now, what Chris, What Chris said?
What's wrong with the Carolinas? Don't do that? Did I
say there was something wrong with the Carolinas? Chris? Is
that what I said? I didn't say that at all.
I love the Carolinas, pow love the Carolinas North and South,
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and it's so funny how much they hate each other.
They're always bickering about the low this and that. They're
always complaining. I love them both, absolutely love them both.
There's nothing wrong with the Carolinas. I mean, I would
recommend you stay out of Charlotte, but for the most part,
love the Carolinas. Tennessee's worth looking into if you're a
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young single man. Me I'm old and married, so I
worry about costs. Just like Jewish producer Chris we we
went last time we went to Nashville. We talked about, hey,
one day we could move to you know, the burbs.
Who wouldn't want to live in the city. We're not
really city people. Well, let's maybe get some property there,
move to the burbs. And then we looked at the
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it's time. What is the crappiest country in the world? Next?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
He doesn't care if you believe him, but he's right.
Jesse Kelly.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on an amazing Monday.
What a Monday. It has been Medal of Honor Monday.
We still have Clay Martin coming up next hour. He's
gonna teach us about fighting people in a house or
at least we're gonna talk about urban warfare with him.
It's gonna be awesome. There's just so much stuff to
get to on this show. But it's time. We've been
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talking about it for a week now. It's time for
the Tournament of Tournaments to crown the champion of champions.
Competition makes us all better or in this case, possibly worse,
because this is the twenty twenty five Jesse Kelly's show
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Crappiest Country in the World tournament, tournament, tournament. I'm not
sure how Look you can say it both ways, Chris.
In case you don't know, there are sixteen teams, everyone
from Afghanistan to Haiti to Italy to Somalia, the worst
places on the planet. We are halfway through the second hour,
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going to be rolling out a matchup every single day. Obviously,
this is a first round matchup today, and dare I
say it honestly, either one of these countries could be
a champion, could be as a worthy champion. But without
further ado, let's meet the contenders.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
It's the twenty twenty five Crappiest Country in the World competition.
Tonight's matchup is between Yemen and Haiti, brought to you
by koreerlines. Traveling stinks, not with curry.
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Let's meet the contenders. We have Yemen. Yemen is such
a god forsaken dump that they flat out closed the
embassy there a decade ago and nobody even knew about it.
Civil war is everywhere. Seven out of ten people in
Yemen cannot even afford food, So look, at least obesity
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is not going to be a problem there. Crime is everywhere,
electricity virtually nonexistent. Medical care is a disaster. If you
find someplace that has medical care, it's probably not a
place you want to receive medical attention. And maybe the
worst part of this, and by the way, maybe the
worst part of this, because this country in the Human
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Development Index is one hundred and sixty eighth out of
one hundred and seventy seven. But in my opinion, the
worst part of Yemen is apparently there are land minds
all over the place. Combine that with the fact that
not only do people get kidnapped in Yemen, you can
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get kidnapped into Yemen in Yemen and forced into marriages.
Obviously this applies to women, and you know what exactly
what that means. That's slavery. If you happen to go
visit Yemen on a little vacation for spring break, you
may find yourself wearing a burka living a life of hell.
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But hey, the good news is, because of all the
land mines, it's gonna have to be a guy who's
into amputees. Yemen is most definitely a contender on the list.
But then we have Haiti. Haiti is a cursed land.
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Haiti was the site of some of the world I
know a lot about slavery, historical slavery, not just the
American slavery, the only one. You're an American professor taught
you about the slavery throughout history, from the Roman salt
mines to the slavery that wasn't that bad. You know,
you were the math tutor in the home too. I
know a lot about slavery in different forms of it.
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The slavery in Haiti sounds like some of the worst
I've ever heard in my entire life. The slaves they
had there because they were processing sugarcane, and it was
abusive and it was terrible, And honestly, I don't think
Haiti today is better than it was back when they
had slaves. That's what a disaster this country is from
AIDS to get this. This is from the US State
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Department's website. You want to know how prevalent kidnapping is
By the way, they'll just follow you right from the
airport and kidnap you. This happens so often that they
have instructions on getting to the nearest police station when
you notice somebody following you from the Portera Prince Airport.
Also on the US State Department's advice section for if
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you're traveling to Haiti, I kid you not, there is
advice on how you need to choose a family member
with whom the kidnappers can negotiate your ransom price. So
the bad news is you might be.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Murdered, raped, eaten, and chopped up with with a machete
and Haiti if you visit there. But the good news
is that sister you hate you can force her to
cough up some ransom money and cost her a fortune.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
So who's gonna wind.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
It's the twenty twenty five Crappiest Country in the World competition.
Tonight's matchups between Yemen and Haiti brought to you by Careerlines.
Traveling stinks, not with Curry.
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Drum roll, please, I'm just this is just my hands
in case you can't tell, it's my hands on the desk.
It's Haiti. It's Haiti. This is no look. If you're
in Yemen, I don't want you to take this as
any sign of disrespect. You are a horrible country, a
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dreadful place, one of the worst place is on the planet.
So don't think, don't think that your first round exit
from the tournament is in any way us being disrespectful.
But Haiti, they're on just a different level than most
of the others. Sorry, Emen, you are out of the tournament. Haiti, congratulations,
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this might be the only good thing that's ever happened
in the history of your country. You're moving on to
the second round. We'll continue on again tomorrow halfway through
the second hour, and I'm giving you a heads up
right now. You had a big say in Haiti winning.
Haiti was wide they voted on on the Jesse Kelly
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Show Twitter page. Tomorrow's matchup is going to be tight.
It's South Sudan. I believe South Sudan. It's Sudan versus Congo. Tomorrow,
Sudan versus Congo. A really an African war tomorrow, as
if that's anything new. So that'll be fun. Now let's
do some other stuff. Dear Fred the beaver Hunter's sidekick.
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You mentioned the assassination of Archiduke Ferdinand and was a
turning point in history, and I agree. There have been
a handful of major turning points in history, the life
of Jesus, crossing of the Rubicon, discovery of fossil fuels, etc.
What are your thoughts on nine to eleven as a
major change in the world order. It seems the West
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has lost its way since then, with the debt and
the endless wars and the moral decline. His name is
Paul Well, the War on Terror. Let's just stick with
that term because that's what most people know it as
the War on Terror. It came mostly after nine to eleven.
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You know, the Jihades were getting rolling in the seventies
and eighties, but nine to eleven was really there. That
was their super bowl. And after that Western countries, Europe
and America, Western countries decided they were going to do
something about it. It's time to go after these terrorists
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where they live. Now. As far as what did it
do to help us lose our way, we can have
a talk about that. I'm game to talk about that.
We can examine that together, and then we'll get back
to some news of the day, if you will. I
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You're listening to the Jesse Kelly Show.
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You're welcome. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, fantastic,
fantastic money. I remember, you can email the show Jesse
at Jesse kellyshow dot com. So guy asked the question.
It's an interesting one. We'll get to JB. Pritzker here
in a moment and putin and g and Ma'm Donnie
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and other things. But the guy said, what are your
thoughts on nine to eleven as a major change in
the world order? Seems the West lost its way since then,
the debt, the endless wars, the moral declined, so on
and so forth. So did jihadis got Like I said,
they were getting rolling in the seventies and eighties, starting
to figure out that terror. Acts of terror were an
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effective way to move the needle in their direction. Nine
to eleven happens, obviously, just one of the worst days
anyone can remember. If you were alive that day, you
remember where you were. It was awful. Uh. From there,
we had to figure out how to fight it. And
here is Here is the truth about warfare. It has
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always been true and it will always be true. It's very, very,
very difficult to fight against anything, any people, any group
of people who are woven into the population. And this
(31:33):
applies to way more than just she hatties. It's It's
happened so many times. And part of the reason is
not just that you have to go to their turf
to fight them, but when you go to their turf,
you are also just by proximity, you're on someone else's
turf too, and innocent person's turf too, And you might
(31:59):
take some buddy who wasn't your enemy before and turned
them into a choice recruit for the other side, even
if it's inadvertent. All armies run into this problem, and
the Western powers making about us have run into this
over and over again. I'll give you an example right away,
(32:21):
the first one that popped into my mind, a potential example.
I should say, remember We talked about it a lot
after the Abby Gate thing where we drone strike ten
innocent people and six of them were children. Now let
me ask you. Let's say you're a seventeen year old
male in Afghanistan. You are not a Jihati, you are
(32:45):
not you're not part of al Qaeda, you're not part
of ISIS. But you are a seventeen year old male.
You you have a six year old little girl who
is your sister, who you love. You get a phone
call one tay that something terrible has happened. You have
to drive down to the house. Only when you get there,
(33:09):
there's no more house. It's all rubble, and you have
to sift through the rubble, and you have to carry
the dead body of your six year old sister out.
And you find out not only did the Americans do it,
(33:30):
they're not even sorry about it.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
How does it strike you that no one is held accountable?
Because I know how it strikes a lot of people
around the world that you can get away with murder
and nobody's punished for it.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
I do understand that we appreciate that not everybody's gonna
support this decision. What I can tell you is we
looked at this thing very, very comprehensively, and again we
acknowledge that there were procedural breakdowns, processes were not executed
the way they should have been, but it doesn't necessarily
indicate that an individual or individuals have to be held
to account for that.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Look, so this is more discipline inside the Pentagon at all.
I mean, maybe they're no charges brought up, but is
anyone demoted or disciplined for what happened?
Speaker 6 (34:07):
Then what we are going to do. There's not going
to be individual discipline as a result of this, really,
but what we are going to do is learn from this,
and we're going to enact and improve our procedures in
our processes to try to make sure this doesn't happen again.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
You're that seventeen year old kid, young full of testosterone.
That little girl was your sister. You hear that on
the news. What are you feeling in that moment? I
am not seventeen. I am forty four, and I'm telling
you right now, if anybody ever harmed a member of
(34:47):
my family, I would kill them. I would not want
them arrested. I would find a way to kill them.
I would, and I have no problem with it. At all,
nothing at all, I would do it. Imagine that's seventeen
year old. He gets a knock on the door after that,
(35:10):
and it's al Qaeda. Hey, I got a suicide vest here.
You want to go blow up fifty Americans? It's fifty
Americans right down there. Remember you want to you want
to look at a picture of your sister. Remember your sister.
I got fifty Americans right up the road. That's that's
(35:34):
how hard it is to go into a place where
they're woven into society. And so what happened was fighting
the global War on Terror became a nightmare because they're
woven into so many parts of the cultures we were in.
And as you're there fighting the bad guys, even if
you're not the Biden administration, you are inadvertently creating more
(36:00):
are bad guys.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
It happened.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
We ran into this exact same stuff in Vietnam. And
I don't want to make this just about us. Every
army who has tried to invade and tried to occupy
and defeat a a surgically selected portion of the of
the population, almost every army in history has failed at
(36:22):
that because it's hard to separate the good from the bad.
And when you're trying to separate the good from the bad, you're.
Speaker 7 (36:28):
Inevitably killing the wrong people or this or that, and
you're creating more of the bad. It's just really, really
difficult to pull off, and it's what makes fighting against
jihad so incredibly difficult in a Muslim country, and all
Muslim countries are not Jihati, But in a Muslim country,
(36:50):
you may not have a bunch of terrorists, but you
have guys who can become one with a little nudge here,
a little push there.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Maybe I'm bored, maybe I'm poor, maybe I'm this. Maybe
you killed my sister or someone who wear You're flagged it,
and now guess what, give me that freaking suicide gest
I'm ready to take some Americans out. And it ended
up being a multi trillion dollar with more blood, and
it ended up being a disaster. Yeah, you could argue
(37:19):
it was a big turning point. Let's talk about JB.
Pritzker and Jijin Ping next.
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