Kash Patel Gets GRILLED By Senators, JD Vance UNLOADS On Democrats & Pam Bondi Gives Worst Take EVER
September 17, 2025 • 47 mins
America is searching for answers in the wake of the Charlie Kirk assassination. Kash Patel was grilled by Senators, some seeking the answer and many others seeking personal fame. Jesse Kelly plays the highlights. But not before he dives into some horrendous commentary from Attorney General Pam Bondi. Can America trust her going forward? Jesse also speaks with Tyler O'Neil about who is funding "terrorist networks" in America and if Stephen Miller can really go after them. Plus, Pastor John Amanchukwu remembers Charlie Kirk's legacy.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is Pam Bondy up for this. We'll talk about that.
Cash will Tell had a huge hearing in front of
the Senate. Who is funding all this communist terrorism? All
that coming up on omrit. Okay, let's have a hard
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talk about where we are, but more specifically what we
have to do right now, because we do have to
do something. We are in one of those tipping point
really important times in history in the lifetime of our country.
This moment right now is a very important tipping point.
And I say that because we have to march forward
right now, right now, with clarity and purpose in destroying
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the communist menace in this country, taking apart their violent
terror networks, going after the people who fund their violent
terror networks. We also have to arrest and imp is
in the deep state, people who use their positions inside
the CIA, FBI to destroy this country. This has to
be done now, not ten years from now, not when
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it's nicer, not when it's more convenient. This has to
be done now because what's happening is the communist revolution
is getting more overt, more public, more radicalized. We have
to kill it now now. And to that end, I
want to give credit where credit is due because there
are people in our movement, people who are leading our movement,
who are saying a lot of very wonderful things, And
(01:34):
I'm inspired by what I hear. JD. Vance, the Vice
President of the United States of America. This is speaking
with clarity and purpose.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
There is no unity with people who scream at children
over their parents' politics. There is no unity with someone who.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Lies about what Charlie Kirk said in order to excuse
his murder.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
There is no unity with someone who harasses an innocent
family the day after the father of that family lost
a dear friend.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
There is no unity with the people who celebrate Charlie
Kirk's assassination.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And there is no unity with the people who fund.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
These articles, who pay the salaries of these terrorist sympathizers,
who argue that Charlie Kirk, a loving husband and father,
deserved a shot to the neck because he spoke words
with which they disagree.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I am desperate for our country to be united in
condemnation of the actions and the ideas that killed my friend.
I want it so badly that I will tell you
a difficult truth. We can only have it with people
who acknowledge that political violence is unacceptable, and when we
work to dismantle the institutions that promote violence and terrorism
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in our own country.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
That it's wonderful. And it's not just him, Donald Trump. Honestly,
it has been great. Van Miller has been better, the
great Stephen Miller.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
The last message that Charlie sent me was I think,
which is the day before we lost him, which is
that we need to have an organized strategy to go
after the left wing organizations that are promoting violence in
this country. And I will write those words onto my
heart and I will carry them out. We are going
to channel all of the anger that we have over
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the organized campaign that led to this assassination to uproot
and dismantle these terrorist networks.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
So let me explain a bit of what that means
so seconds you'll be quick, Stephen.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
The organized docs and campaigns, the organized riots, the organized
street violence, the organized campaigns of dehumanization, vilification, posting people's addresses,
combining that with messaging this design to trigger inside violence,
and the actual organized cells that carry out and facilitate
the violence. It is a vast domestic terror movement. And
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with the God is my witness, we're going to use
every resource we have at the Department of Justice, Homeland Security,
and throughout this government to identify, disrupt, dismantle, and destroy
these networks and make America safe again for the American people.
It will happen, and we will do it in Charlie's name.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Okay. I don't want to just gloss over how critically
important that is what the Vice President said and what
Steven Miller just said, because they understand the challenge. I
would be very, very concerned if all the conversation right
now was just about the assassin himself making sure he
gets justice, pretending as if it's just a guy. It's
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not a guy. Years and years and millions of dollars
has resulted in a vast communist network in this country,
much of it violent, much of it organized on the Internet.
And now they're doing weapons training, they're assassinating people, and
they're going to get bolder and more violent from here.
(04:57):
It is a terrorist network that must be taken apart
brick by brick, and that the organ that the institution,
the White House itself, that is a powerful institution, that
it acknowledges that, that it knows that and is speaking
about that is hugely important. So I want to make sure.
I stress that that is wonderful and you should feel
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good about that. But and you had to know there
was a butt coming. Jd Vance is not going to
be leading any investigations. Jd Vance is not going to
be organizing any counter terrorism law enforcement efforts. Neither's Donald Trump,
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neither is Steven Miller. That's not their role. That's not
what they're supposed to be doing. It is, however, the
role of the top law enforcement officer in the United
States of America. It is the role of the Attorney
General of the United States of Amyica. Her name is PAMBONDI.
(06:02):
Now I want to clarify something because I said in
the very beginning that we are at a critical tipping point.
So this is what I mean. This is our opportunity
right now to imprison people like John Brennan. If you
take over the CIA and use it for Democrat politics,
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you use it to run operations against Republicans, you have
to go to prison for that. We've discussed that many
times before, and other communists in the government have to
see you go to prison for that. That's one. Two.
This terror network is larger than you know. I want
to be clear about this. It's not as if it
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was one guy. It's not as if it was one group.
It has metastasized into groups across the country, Red states
and Blue states, often LGBTQ based groups of online mentally
broken soulace demons who talk about violence, plot assassinations. They
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trained with their weapons, they train. It's a group. Do
you remember when a group of them attacked a border
patrol facility. By the grace of God, the only one
who died was one of them. But it wasn't a
one guy operation. It was a group of them carrying
out a campaign. We talked about it on this show.
We have terrorist cells, homegrown terrorist cells of communists in
this country, and that last assassination, the assassination of Charlie Kirk,
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will not be the last one. They're ready, they're moving.
The Attorney General of the United States of America must
take them apart brick by brick. It will be massive
and it will be controversial. Now, I told you before
Donald Trump even picked Pambondi or tried to pick Matt Gates,
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I came right here on the TV and I told you,
by far, by a mile, the most important pick Donald
Trump had to make was Attorney General because I knew
there were networks that had to be taken apart, and
we needed a super sharp pit bull who was unafraid
of public condemnation at all. I'm going to play something
(08:10):
for you that you've seen many times before. I'm going
to play her on Fox News when she's asked about
the Epstein list. Now, keep in mind, when she's asked
by the host, she didn't say Epstein list. The host
said Epstein list. When she's asked about the Epstein list
by the host, the Epstein list doesn't exist. There's no
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one list. There's a bunch of files and things like that,
but there's no one list. It's not something that exists.
When she's asked by the host about the list, I
want you to listen to her answer here. She was
the DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. Well,
that really happened.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
It's sitting on my desk right now.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
To reveal it's sitting on my desk, there's no list.
She hadn't even looked at it. But why answer the
question that way? Then? If she didn't even know what
was on her desk? We know that now, why answer
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the question that way, then do you know why this
is actually the most damaging part, Because that's what he
wanted to hear, that's what the host on Fox News
wanted to hear, that's what the audience watching Fox News
wanted to hear. And so instead of giving hard truths,
we're still sorting through things. Some of it's classified. We're
(09:33):
going to get to the bottom of this. There's no
one consolidated list. There are a bunch of files we're coming.
Instead of giving hard truths like that, we got the
people pleasing answer. It's sitting on my desk. It doesn't work.
She went on Fox News Think This was this morning
and said this.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
That's horrific. It's free speech that you shouldn't be employed
anywhere if you're going to say that, and employers you
have an obligation to get rid of people. You need
to look at people who are saying horrible things and
they shouldn't be working with you. Businesses cannot discriminate. If
you want to go in and print posters with Charlie's
pictures on them for a vigil, you have to let
them do that. We can prosecute you for that. I
(10:13):
have har meat Dillon right now in our civil rights
looking at that. Immediately that Office Depot had done that.
We're looking at that, but Sean.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
You know what you The DOJ is now going to
force businesses to print the things they want printed. Office
Depot already fired the employee who refused to print that.
(10:42):
Office Depot heard about it, found out about it, fired
the employee. We need the DOJ throwing John Brennan and
Fort Levenworth for the rest of his life. We need
the DOJ. We need Pam Bondy tearing down Communist network
brick by brick. We don't need Pambondy forcing things from
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office depot. This is the kind of amateur hour people
pleasing crap we cannot afford at this time. Pambondy is
not an intern at the local law firm. She's not
some nobody in society. Pam Bondy, right or wrong, for
better or worse, has arguably the most important position in
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the United States of America right now, and that includes
the presidency. That includes the presidency. What we need from
Pambondy right now is more than we need from any
one individual in the United States of America. And this
seems like amateur hour ridiculous crap, and that pails in
comparison to what came out yesterday when she said We're
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gonna start prosecuting hate speech.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
There's free speech and then there's hate speech. And there
is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to
Charlie in our society.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
Do you see more law enforcement going after these groups
who are using hate speech and putting cuffs on people.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
So we show them that some action is better than
no action.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
We will absolutely target you, go after you if you
are targeting anyone with hate speech anything, And that's across
the aisle.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Hate speech is not a thing. Free speech is hate speech. Now,
you can't threaten people with violence, of course, but this
is the tactic of the communists. This is how tyrannical
communists throughout history have attacked people's freedoms. They've done it
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to you, they've done it to me. This is the
justification the Biden White House used to go to Facebook
and Twitter and tell them to cancel your account for
questioning COVID measures and things like that. And we don't
even need her focused on this ridiculous crap. Again, I
want to stress this, it's not just the John Brennans
and James Comy's of the world have to burn, and
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she's the one who does it. The John Brennans and
James Comy's of the world are deeply connected FBI CIA.
They will have super deep pockets. This woman is going
to have to go up against the finest defense attorneys
on the planet if she used to be successful. This
woman has to head up the task force that tears
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apart Internet cells wherever they are found, and we get
this amateur hour crap. Amateur hour is over. It's not
nineteen eighty, it's twenty twenty five. We don't have time
for this. I don't know whether she can be replaced
with someone decent. I don't know whether or not she
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can be shaken awake. But I would kindly ask Pam
Bondi to get off Fox News, get off the podcast circuit,
and start doing what we need you to do. AG
The country needs it now. If you're not ready, get
your butt back to Florida. We'll find someone who is. All.
That may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right
(14:20):
freaking fires me up. Cash Mottels fired up today, spoke
in front of the Senate talk about that a little
bit before we talk about that, let me talk to
you about this. Continue to punish the communists for their arrogance,
for the evil deeds they've done, and punish the ones
in corporate America most especially. We didn't get to this
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open jails part in our society by accident. We got
there with corporate sponsorship. Go look up your cell phone company.
Go look up Verizon AT and T or T Mobile,
and find out what they were doing when the animals
were burning down police precincts. After George Floyd died, find
out what your cell phone comes. But he did. I
know what mine didn't do. Mine didn't participate. I have
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We'll be back. Well, let's focus on the other half
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of this network that we need to take apart, the
terror network, the Federal Bureau of Investigation. They are the
federal law enforcement arm and we need them right now
and cash ptail set in front of the United States
Senate today, answered a lot of questions that there was
a lot of back and forth, and of course there
were a lot of Communist senators beclowning themselves.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
You are not requiring applicants to be able to do
a certain kind of pull ups, which a lot of
women cannot because of physiological differences. Are you requiring these
kinds of pull ups?
Speaker 8 (16:11):
If you want to chase down a bad guy and
put him in handcuffs, you better be able to do
a pull up.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
The reason I ask is that there are concerns about
whether or not being able to do these kinds of
harsh pull ups is really required of FBI agents.
Speaker 8 (16:27):
Doing harsh and there are always medical exemptions to that.
Speaker 9 (16:32):
Nothing came of that review until July when douj and
FBI released an unsigned memorandum stating there is no incriminating
client list. Why was this July seventh memorandum unsigned?
Speaker 8 (16:45):
Would you prefer I've used auto pen If you want
to work on bringing this country, it's my time, not yours.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
My god, my god.
Speaker 10 (16:52):
If you want to talk about this country, it is
follow you on your social media posts. Try all in
this country, not time for one time.
Speaker 11 (17:08):
You're your time over committee, sir, You don't tell me
my time is over.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
You tell me what my time is. You can't lecture me.
You can tell her my timeget I am not, mister chairman,
afraid of you.
Speaker 12 (17:23):
We have talentlessly proven you to be a lawyer in
Russia Gate in January sixth. You are the brought to
every since the United States Senate, disgrace to this time
and an utter calend I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised
that you continue to lie from your perch and put on.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
A show so you can go raise money.
Speaker 13 (17:46):
For your charade.
Speaker 8 (17:47):
You are political buffoon at best.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Cash standing up for himself there. So of course it
was an embarrassment with Democrats doing exactly what Cash just
pointed out. They're out there raising money. Corey Booker is
very clearly running for president. That's why he has a
fiance now, and that's why he's going to start getting
louder and more obnoxious as these things go on. But
let's move past all that and focus on other things.
(18:13):
What did Cash Pateel reveal, Well, things like fugitives on
the most wanted list going down.
Speaker 8 (18:20):
We have also arrested four captured, four top ten fugitives
from the FBI's top ten most wanted list. To put
that in perspective, that's the same amount I've captured in
seven months that my predecessor did during the entirety of
the Biden administration.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Okay, Well, that raises an interesting question, doesn't it. If
Cash Betel's FBI was able to arrest four people on
the top ten most wanted list in seven months and
Joe Biden Christopher Ray's FBI was only able to arrest
four people in four y years, what were they doing? Well,
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that's an important thing to dig into. Senator Chuck Grassley
of Iowa revealed a bit of what they were doing.
Speaker 13 (19:13):
I made public records that whistleblowers provided me about Arctic Frost.
In total, ninety two Republican targets, including Republican groups and
Republican linked individuals, were placed under investigative scope of Arctic Frost.
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On that political list was one of Charlie Kirk's group's
turning point USA. In other words, Artic Frost wasn't just
the case to politically investigate Trump. It was the vehicle
by which partisan FBI agents and Department Justice prosecutors could
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achieve their partisan ends and improperly investigate the entire Republican
political apparatus.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
It wasn't just that they turned the FBI against you.
They spent four years not breaking up domestic terror cells,
not hunting down those on the most wanted list. They
spent four years hunting down you. It's not just that
the monsters who did it got paid with your money.
Speaker 14 (20:38):
Miss Page resigned from the FBI. Mister Struck was fired.
They promptly sued the federal government in the FBI and
Justice Department for releasing their emails which revealed all this.
The FBI settled that lawsuit for one point two million dollars,
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gave mister Struck one point two million dollars cash, gave
Miss Page she resigned, She was and fired, she resigned,
she quit, gave her eight hundred thousand dollars. Who if
the FBI made that decision to give them money.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
The only people that can decide that settlement are the
Attorney General, in conjunction with the Director and the administration.
Speaker 14 (21:22):
Okay, so you're telling me that Attorney General Garland and
Director Ray decided to give them the money.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yes, right, They paid the deep staters of fortune on
the way out the door. This is where we are
now cash When on he talked about how there's been
terminations and things like that, and I'm happy about that.
I'm glad, but let's focus on where we're at as
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far as taking apart this domestic terror apparatus in the
wake of the Charlie Cook assassination. As we've already discussed,
that has got to be top priority. Here's what Kash
Bettel said about that.
Speaker 8 (22:03):
Unfortunately, it has been leaked that there was a discord
chat and for those unfamiliar with it, it's a gaming chat
room online that the suspect participated in. And we're also
going to be investigating anyone and everyone involved in that
discord chat.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Okay, very good.
Speaker 15 (22:20):
I see the public reports that the discord thread had
as many as twenty additional users. It sounds like you're
trying to run down all of that to see if
that's accurate. Who else may have been on that thread,
what they may have known.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Is that fair to.
Speaker 8 (22:32):
Say it's a lot more than that, we're running them
all down.
Speaker 15 (22:34):
It's a lot more than twenty, yes, sir, And you're
running all.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Of that together, every single one. Yeah, fantastic.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
I've always said we follow the money and whether it's
terrorism or a tax based on ideology, or a tax
on institutions of faith or people of faith. Someone's paying
for it, and we are reverse tracing those steps. We
are not stopping at the perpetrator themselves. We are reverse
engineering to hold those accountable in our investigations who funded
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them and knowingly funded them, and we will bring the
appropriate steps against them with our partners at DOJ.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
That's good, that's the right idea. Let's hope, because I
don't know that this is the case. Let's hope there
are still enough capable FBI agents, not committed communists, capable
FBI agents who were there to dig into this and
run it down. We have to hope. We have to
hope Pam Bondi will find her footing. We have to
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hope Cash Betel will do the right thing. We have
to hope the FBI will track down these terror networks,
this dark money behind it. We have a lot of hope,
but that's all we got right now now. Speaking of
this dark money network, Tyler O'Neill wrote a book about it.
You're going to be hearing a lot about dark money
in the coming weeks, months, and years. It's important that
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Speaker 6 (25:17):
Yes, So what you're referring to is there are these
nonprofit entities that organize, as the President mentioned, attacks on
ice officers, attacks on ORTA patrol agents, organized boxing campaigns,
which are a violation of federal law. They break off
cement and they bring into riots. They have organized drop
points for weapons, organized drop points for a gas mess
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organized drop points for all the materials necessary to launch
a riot. And of course you saw that during the
Black Lives Matter.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Rights as well too.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
So there's this whole network of organizations. And I think
the key point the prevident's been making is somebody is
paying for all of this. This is not happening for free,
and so under the President's direction, the Attorney in General
is going to find out who is paying for it,
and they will not be criminally liable for paying for violence.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
This is wonderful. I like it. Now, let's talk to
someone who knows a lot more about it than I do.
Probably you do, Tyler O'Neill. He's the senior editor for
the Daily Signal, but more importantly, he wrote a book
on this. We've talked to him before, called the Woke
depuss about this dark money cabal that is behind all
this stuff. Okay, Tyler, help us understand because this is
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so far beyond most of our understanding that this stuff
is paid for and organized. I mean, you turn on CNN,
you see the animals in the streets, and you think
they're just upset citizens. Is that not the case?
Speaker 10 (26:37):
Yeah, So a lot of this and it's sometimes it's
hard to prove exactly what's happening, but many, many times
there are organizations that foot the bill for a lot
of these protesters. And so you get when you saw
the anti Israel encampments on college campuses, you saw people
who had food and coffee and all sorts of things
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delivered to them while they're ostensibly protesting and making their
voices known. In some cases, people are actually paid to
engage in these protests, and so some of that funding
it often comes through NGOs that are connected to what
I call the left's dark money network. And this is
a series of nonprofits. Some of them don't like being
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called a network, but they all support left wing causes. Often,
you know, it's the constellation of issues I describe as
woke climate alarmism, critical race theory, gender ideology, and a
preference for technocratic government. And they funded the activist groups
that staffed and advised the Biden administration, using the federal
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government to push woke ideology on the American people. And
that's the focus of the book. But many of these
same ENGOs and many of the dark money engines behind them,
are also funding some of the protests on the street.
And it's very important for me to say, what we
have is a funding trail where you have some of
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these some of these dark money foundations bankrolling some of
these nonprofits that then support protests, and then the protests
become violent. So we don't have concrete proof not only
that the original foundations want there to be violence, but
even that the NGOs that are more directly organizing the
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protests want there to be violence. And I think they
work very hard to separate themselves from that violence, partially
because they want to protect themselves from any sort of liability.
So what President Trump is going to have to do,
and what the what the FBI and the DOJ are
going to have to do, is they follow the money,
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but then they have to prove somehow that these groups
that were bankrolling these protests organizations wanted to engage in
violence and wanted this to go forward. Because when you
are dealing with a Rico case or any sort of
case of organized crime, you have to demonstrate, not just
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you know, there are a lot of things you have
to prove. So I'm really glad that President Trump is
looking at this. I'm really glad that Antifa. Antifa should
be scared to death right now, and they deserve to
be targeted for these things. I mean, we saw in
the riots in twenty twenty, we saw federal buildings attacked
with and we saw police officers attack We saw houses
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and buildings burned down, many of them, by the way,
in the same majority minority areas of these big cities
where black people lived and where black lives were snuffed
out in the name of Black lives matter. So you know,
when we're dealing with this, a crackdown on this is
very important. But the administration has to get all its
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ducks in a row, and I think they will, But
these investigations are going to take a while, and it's
these are going to be high bars for President Trump
to bring it to these NGOs and to the funders.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Can you explain why we can't why we have such
a hard time following the money because people have a
hard time understanding that. People who don't understand how the
nonprofit world works, how the anonymity of donors work. They
don't understand. I mean, money goes from here to here
to hear. Surely you can track it all, you have
the names. It's quite simple. It sounds like a twenty
four hour job. Can you explain why it's not that simple?
Speaker 10 (30:32):
Yes. So one of the things that we talk about
a lot is dark money, and usually it's the left
condemning the right for this, but the left engages in
it arguably more than the right does. You have these organizations.
So there's a company called Arabella Advisors, and they work
with a whole bunch of nonprofits. And these nonprofits almost
exist to receive money from donors and then take that
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money and give it to projects that the donors don't
want to be specifically connected with. And so these foundations,
one of them is called the sixteen thirty Fund. There's
a bigger one called the New Venture Fund. They prop
up a whole bunch of left wing causes across the spectrum,
mostly often on climate issues, but they often run the gamut.
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And what you see here is what looks like a
deliberate effort to allow donors to support projects without their
names being tied to it. So that's where dark money
comes in. I want to be very clear, though there
is nothing inherently nefarious about dark money. Dark money is
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the right that you and I have to give money
to causes that we believe in without our names being revealed.
I mean this is part of that fundamental First Amendment
freedom where we can advocate for things we believe in.
So we have to be careful. There is a very
big difference between funding terrorism and violence, and that's what
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the President is looking into, and I think that's it's
high time we actually have answers to that and funding
non governmental organizations that advocate things in the policy arena
that people can disagree on. There is a big nine
and day difference between these things, and the Left has
often engaged in this very questionable middle ground where they
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turn the other way to Antifa. Sometimes they back up Antifa,
sometimes they work with Antifa, and it's like, no, we
need to say Antifa is a violent organization that engages
in effectively domestic terrorism, and we have to oppose its
violence always. And if you're funding this in any way,
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that is a red line you're crossing.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
This sounds like and please correctly if i'm me if
I'm wrong with Tyler. This sounds like it was set
up very intentionally and probably with some very expensive lawyers
by the left, and therefore it sounds like this is
going to be a very difficult network to take a
part for Pam Bondy the Attorney General. Am I wrong
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in any of that?
Speaker 10 (33:19):
No, You're exactly right when it comes to They've worked
very hard to protect themselves. They have very strong lawyers.
I mean, I've been covering the Southern Poverty Law Center
for over a decade and there are so many cases
where they should be nailed on defamation. But they have
really smart loyalers and they wiggle their way out of it.
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And when you're dealing with the SPLC, they're rich and established,
but they're nowhere near as rich and established as the
Open Society Foundations, as Arabella Advisors, as the big the
left dark money network. So these organizations are very ready
to protect themselves. And by the way, I need to
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say this until I'm blue in the phase. I don't
have evidence that they directly support or fund any sort
of violence or terrorism or anything like that. But what
I have seen time and time again is a funding
stream connecting much of the left stark money network to
these NGOs that then organize protests, that then engage in violence.
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And I think as the FBI and the DOJ looks
at this, they're going to find fertile ground. It's just
it's just going to be a hard slog.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Do you think they're up to it?
Speaker 10 (34:40):
I hope they are. I mean, I think I have confidence.
So there have been really positive and really negative things
we've been seeing from the FBI regards to the Charlie
Kirk case, the fact that they had to release two
persons of interest. Now we're learning more about one of
those persons of interest. It looks as though there are
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a lot more questions than we have answers to right now.
And I think there has been a lot of success
in that as well. But this FBI needs to be
gearing up and ready because it's going to be a
big fight, and I hope they can do it. There
are a lot of really really smart, effective, competent people
in the bureau right now, and they need to have,
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you know, a strong stealed will because this is not
going to be easy. And I think it's important to mention,
you know, you rightly brought up the Southern Poverty Law
Center on the screen there. The SPLC put Turning Point
USA on their hate map that includes chapters of the
Ku Klux Klan. And they did that in May, just
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a few months before this horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk.
And I'm saying this until I'm blue in the face,
but the SPLC had a statement that said we oppose
political violence. That's a tiny step, but I'm sorry, the
SPLC needs to put its money where its mouth is.
If they oppose political violence. They need at the very
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least to take Turning Point USA off that hate map
right away, because that is the smallest thing they can
do to show that this is more than just empty
words for them.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Tyler, thank you, my friend. Appreciate it. All right, We're
going to talk to another pastor about what's next for
America's church. Before we talk to him, I know these
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Speaker 6 (37:38):
How do you want to be remembered? If I die,
everything just goes away.
Speaker 10 (37:41):
How would you if you could be associated with one thing,
how would you want to be remembered.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
I want to be I want to be remembered for
for courage from my faith. That would be the most
important thing.
Speaker 15 (37:51):
Most important thing is my faith mine.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
That's wonderful and it's spreading now. Certainly was this Sunday,
Hopefully with all the other ugliness going on, there was
a revival coming, and I feel like there might be
joining me now. Pastor John, I'm in Chukwu, Turning Point,
USA contributor, young adult pastor for the Upper Room Church
of God in Christ in North Carolina. Pastor, maybe it's
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wishful thinking, so you can tell me if it's wishful thinking.
But it feels like this is revival time. It does.
Speaker 11 (38:29):
You know, martyrdom is a unique and strange thing. The
word martyr means witness and Charlie was assassinated, not simply
keeled or unlive. You know, we don't use that kind
of terminology. He was assassinated because of his biblical worldview
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and because of his political positions. And when martyrdom takes place,
even as we see in the Bible, it causes revival
because it deepens the courage and stiffens the spines of
men and women who call on the name of Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Pastor, can you explain why that is the case, because
it very clearly is the case. I went to a
vigil in my tiny town on Saturday night, expecting there
to be five people. There were hundreds in a tiny
town and kids, old people speaking boldly, reading Bible verses, praying.
Shouldn't they be afraid? Someone was just killed for that.
Speaker 11 (39:28):
Well, you know, God has not given us the spirit
of fear, but of power, love, and of a sound mind,
of a sound conscious, and so yes, naturally, because of
our humanity, we may sense fear, but there is something
in us that's greater than ourselves, and it's the Holy Spirit,
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you know. And these things take place and give us
power to do unimaginable things and to stand bold, you know,
as lying against the onslaught of the culture. And that's
what Charlie Kirk embodied for thirty one years. And it's
sad to say that we live in a world and
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in a culture where if a person can't defeat your arguments,
they seek to take your life. But even in assassinating
Charlie Kirk, they were still not able to prove him wrong,
because you cannot assassinate the truth.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
In this time, we obviously need a strong, wonderful church
as much as ever, but that's not universal. Obviously, I
lost my church a few years ago because of my
effeminate pastor who wouldn't speak boldly. We have terrible churches
of every race and creed in this country. Here's a pastor, well,
at least they call him a Reverend Jamal Bryant after
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Charlie was killed here he was.
Speaker 16 (40:54):
I'm concerned about all of these Negro preachers who've been,
in fact talking about that this man that was killed
was the answer to Christ in the earth. Y'all ain't
saying nothing. They having moments of silence in black churches
all over the country over a man that was racist
and a white supremacist. How dare you compare him to
(41:17):
Martin Luther King. The only thing that Charlie Chris and
Martin Luther King got in common is both of them
was killed by white man. After that, they got nothing
else in common.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Pastor, that's so poisonous for everybody. It's just so such
poison and it sickens me that it happens from the pulpit.
Speaker 11 (41:40):
The person that you just listen to, his name is
Jamal Bryant. He's a heretic and a race hustler and
a race baiter. There are a lot of things that
Charlie Kirk and Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King Junior had
in common. First and foremost, the first thing that jumps
off the page is the fact that they were both Christians.
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They believed in American exceptionalism. They both believed in the
nuclear family, they were both fathers and husbands, they both
fought against victim mentalities, and they both wanted what was
best for the Black community. And now there are some
people who would tell you that Charlie Kirk was racist
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and a bigot. I've worked for Turning Point USA for
the past three and a half years. I'm married to
a beautiful Black woman, have black children. I would never
work for a day, even if they were paying me
tens of millions of dollars. I wouldn't work for a
day for a person that I thought was racist. Charlie
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wasn't a racist, but he was one heck of a realist.
And what he would do is critique different individuals and
lifestyles and ideologies and behaviors which scripture and with facts.
But the problem is with men like Jamal Bryant. He
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has failed to live a standard where the Black church
has something to live up to. He's dumb down the standard.
Charlie believed that Black Americans in this country could live
up to a higher standard, and that's what he talked about,
and with facts and with information, he addressed these issues.
(43:26):
But people like Jamal Bryant don't want to hear the truth,
so instead of embracing the truth, he would much rather
succumb to calling him a racist. Charlie wrote the forward
in my last book, all right, and it's just so
powerful the things that he said. I want to share
this with you, Charlie said. He said, I had to
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watch thousands of pastors call themselves none y century and
gladly closed their churches to worshippers for weeks or even months.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
At a time.
Speaker 11 (43:57):
I've seen pastors who fear their neighbors more than they
fear God, who feared dying most of all.
Speaker 15 (44:05):
And why would.
Speaker 11 (44:06):
Anyone want to follow a Christian who was worried about dying?
And then he goes on to say many glowing things
about yours? Truly, Charlie supported me. Here's the reason why
my message went across this nation in the manner that
it did. When I joined forces with him, I didn't
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have a large following, I didn't have a huge platform.
I didn't have the donors pouring in and supporting my efforts.
But because of Charlie Kirk, seeing the favor of God
upon my life and knowing that I had something to
say and offer this nation. Charlie allowed me to incubate
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within Turning Point USA, and he pushed my message and
elevated my voice.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Pastor, I appreciate you very much. God bless come back
so we have light in the mood. Next, all right,
it is time to light the mood. And I want
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to emphasize this again. There are terrible things happening, and
there are terrible things to come. I know that, but
there are also wonderful things happening and wonderful things to come.
Remember that. Here's a video credit to producer John. This
is where this one came from. Man going to church
for the first time after Charlie dies.
Speaker 7 (45:38):
You know, I don't.
Speaker 17 (45:40):
I don't come from any kind of money and I've
never owned a suit before. My wife she bought me
this suit. I just want my wife to doe. She
made me feel good. It's a three hundred dollars suit.
(46:00):
I never had nothing like this before in my life.
That I tell you what. Okay, video flip here, so
I'm gonna lose some of you. I didn't know Charlie Kirk.
Never met that guy before in my life. And something
else that I've never done before in my life is
believing God. I'm gonna wear this suit to church. I'm
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gonna go to church. I'm going to try to be
a better father, husband, and leader for my family. They
deserve that. My phone fell down. I guess that's the
devil trying to put me upright or mess me up right. Now,
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I'm gonna try. Y'all, look at this suit.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
How about that who's funny throwing a little cuss word
and corrected himself about though, I'll see them.
Speaker 6 (47:03):
Mm hmmm mmm
Speaker 9 (47:07):
Mmmmmm
Is Pam Bondy up for this. We'll talk about that.
Cash will Tell had a huge hearing in front of
the Senate. Who is funding all this communist terrorism? All
that coming up on omrit. Okay, let's have a hard
(00:24):
talk about where we are, but more specifically what we
have to do right now, because we do have to
do something. We are in one of those tipping point
really important times in history in the lifetime of our country.
This moment right now is a very important tipping point.
And I say that because we have to march forward
right now, right now, with clarity and purpose in destroying
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the communist menace in this country, taking apart their violent
terror networks, going after the people who fund their violent
terror networks. We also have to arrest and imp is
in the deep state, people who use their positions inside
the CIA, FBI to destroy this country. This has to
be done now, not ten years from now, not when
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it's nicer, not when it's more convenient. This has to
be done now because what's happening is the communist revolution
is getting more overt, more public, more radicalized. We have
to kill it now now. And to that end, I
want to give credit where credit is due because there
are people in our movement, people who are leading our movement,
who are saying a lot of very wonderful things, And
(01:34):
I'm inspired by what I hear. JD. Vance, the Vice
President of the United States of America. This is speaking
with clarity and purpose.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
There is no unity with people who scream at children
over their parents' politics. There is no unity with someone who.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Lies about what Charlie Kirk said in order to excuse
his murder.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
There is no unity with someone who harasses an innocent
family the day after the father of that family lost
a dear friend.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
There is no unity with the people who celebrate Charlie
Kirk's assassination.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And there is no unity with the people who fund.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
These articles, who pay the salaries of these terrorist sympathizers,
who argue that Charlie Kirk, a loving husband and father,
deserved a shot to the neck because he spoke words
with which they disagree.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I am desperate for our country to be united in
condemnation of the actions and the ideas that killed my friend.
I want it so badly that I will tell you
a difficult truth. We can only have it with people
who acknowledge that political violence is unacceptable, and when we
work to dismantle the institutions that promote violence and terrorism
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in our own country.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
That it's wonderful. And it's not just him, Donald Trump. Honestly,
it has been great. Van Miller has been better, the
great Stephen Miller.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
The last message that Charlie sent me was I think,
which is the day before we lost him, which is
that we need to have an organized strategy to go
after the left wing organizations that are promoting violence in
this country. And I will write those words onto my
heart and I will carry them out. We are going
to channel all of the anger that we have over
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the organized campaign that led to this assassination to uproot
and dismantle these terrorist networks.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
So let me explain a bit of what that means
so seconds you'll be quick, Stephen.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
The organized docs and campaigns, the organized riots, the organized
street violence, the organized campaigns of dehumanization, vilification, posting people's addresses,
combining that with messaging this design to trigger inside violence,
and the actual organized cells that carry out and facilitate
the violence. It is a vast domestic terror movement. And
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with the God is my witness, we're going to use
every resource we have at the Department of Justice, Homeland Security,
and throughout this government to identify, disrupt, dismantle, and destroy
these networks and make America safe again for the American people.
It will happen, and we will do it in Charlie's name.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Okay. I don't want to just gloss over how critically
important that is what the Vice President said and what
Steven Miller just said, because they understand the challenge. I
would be very, very concerned if all the conversation right
now was just about the assassin himself making sure he
gets justice, pretending as if it's just a guy. It's
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not a guy. Years and years and millions of dollars
has resulted in a vast communist network in this country,
much of it violent, much of it organized on the Internet.
And now they're doing weapons training, they're assassinating people, and
they're going to get bolder and more violent from here.
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It is a terrorist network that must be taken apart
brick by brick, and that the organ that the institution,
the White House itself, that is a powerful institution, that
it acknowledges that, that it knows that and is speaking
about that is hugely important. So I want to make sure.
I stress that that is wonderful and you should feel
(05:18):
good about that. But and you had to know there
was a butt coming. Jd Vance is not going to
be leading any investigations. Jd Vance is not going to
be organizing any counter terrorism law enforcement efforts. Neither's Donald Trump,
(05:42):
neither is Steven Miller. That's not their role. That's not
what they're supposed to be doing. It is, however, the
role of the top law enforcement officer in the United
States of America. It is the role of the Attorney
General of the United States of Amyica. Her name is PAMBONDI.
(06:02):
Now I want to clarify something because I said in
the very beginning that we are at a critical tipping point.
So this is what I mean. This is our opportunity
right now to imprison people like John Brennan. If you
take over the CIA and use it for Democrat politics,
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you use it to run operations against Republicans, you have
to go to prison for that. We've discussed that many
times before, and other communists in the government have to
see you go to prison for that. That's one. Two.
This terror network is larger than you know. I want
to be clear about this. It's not as if it
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was one guy. It's not as if it was one group.
It has metastasized into groups across the country, Red states
and Blue states, often LGBTQ based groups of online mentally
broken soulace demons who talk about violence, plot assassinations. They
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trained with their weapons, they train. It's a group. Do
you remember when a group of them attacked a border
patrol facility. By the grace of God, the only one
who died was one of them. But it wasn't a
one guy operation. It was a group of them carrying
out a campaign. We talked about it on this show.
We have terrorist cells, homegrown terrorist cells of communists in
this country, and that last assassination, the assassination of Charlie Kirk,
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will not be the last one. They're ready, they're moving.
The Attorney General of the United States of America must
take them apart brick by brick. It will be massive
and it will be controversial. Now, I told you before
Donald Trump even picked Pambondi or tried to pick Matt Gates,
(07:50):
I came right here on the TV and I told you,
by far, by a mile, the most important pick Donald
Trump had to make was Attorney General because I knew
there were networks that had to be taken apart, and
we needed a super sharp pit bull who was unafraid
of public condemnation at all. I'm going to play something
(08:10):
for you that you've seen many times before. I'm going
to play her on Fox News when she's asked about
the Epstein list. Now, keep in mind, when she's asked
by the host, she didn't say Epstein list. The host
said Epstein list. When she's asked about the Epstein list
by the host, the Epstein list doesn't exist. There's no
(08:31):
one list. There's a bunch of files and things like that,
but there's no one list. It's not something that exists.
When she's asked by the host about the list, I
want you to listen to her answer here. She was
the DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. Well,
that really happened.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
It's sitting on my desk right now.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
To reveal it's sitting on my desk, there's no list.
She hadn't even looked at it. But why answer the
question that way? Then? If she didn't even know what
was on her desk? We know that now, why answer
(09:10):
the question that way, then do you know why this
is actually the most damaging part, Because that's what he
wanted to hear, that's what the host on Fox News
wanted to hear, that's what the audience watching Fox News
wanted to hear. And so instead of giving hard truths,
we're still sorting through things. Some of it's classified. We're
(09:33):
going to get to the bottom of this. There's no
one consolidated list. There are a bunch of files we're coming.
Instead of giving hard truths like that, we got the
people pleasing answer. It's sitting on my desk. It doesn't work.
She went on Fox News Think This was this morning
and said this.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
That's horrific. It's free speech that you shouldn't be employed
anywhere if you're going to say that, and employers you
have an obligation to get rid of people. You need
to look at people who are saying horrible things and
they shouldn't be working with you. Businesses cannot discriminate. If
you want to go in and print posters with Charlie's
pictures on them for a vigil, you have to let
them do that. We can prosecute you for that. I
(10:13):
have har meat Dillon right now in our civil rights
looking at that. Immediately that Office Depot had done that.
We're looking at that, but Sean.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
You know what you The DOJ is now going to
force businesses to print the things they want printed. Office
Depot already fired the employee who refused to print that.
(10:42):
Office Depot heard about it, found out about it, fired
the employee. We need the DOJ throwing John Brennan and
Fort Levenworth for the rest of his life. We need
the DOJ. We need Pam Bondy tearing down Communist network
brick by brick. We don't need Pambondy forcing things from
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office depot. This is the kind of amateur hour people
pleasing crap we cannot afford at this time. Pambondy is
not an intern at the local law firm. She's not
some nobody in society. Pam Bondy, right or wrong, for
better or worse, has arguably the most important position in
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the United States of America right now, and that includes
the presidency. That includes the presidency. What we need from
Pambondy right now is more than we need from any
one individual in the United States of America. And this
seems like amateur hour ridiculous crap, and that pails in
comparison to what came out yesterday when she said We're
(11:51):
gonna start prosecuting hate speech.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
There's free speech and then there's hate speech. And there
is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to
Charlie in our society.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
Do you see more law enforcement going after these groups
who are using hate speech and putting cuffs on people.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
So we show them that some action is better than
no action.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
We will absolutely target you, go after you if you
are targeting anyone with hate speech anything, And that's across
the aisle.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Hate speech is not a thing. Free speech is hate speech. Now,
you can't threaten people with violence, of course, but this
is the tactic of the communists. This is how tyrannical
communists throughout history have attacked people's freedoms. They've done it
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to you, they've done it to me. This is the
justification the Biden White House used to go to Facebook
and Twitter and tell them to cancel your account for
questioning COVID measures and things like that. And we don't
even need her focused on this ridiculous crap. Again, I
want to stress this, it's not just the John Brennans
and James Comy's of the world have to burn, and
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she's the one who does it. The John Brennans and
James Comy's of the world are deeply connected FBI CIA.
They will have super deep pockets. This woman is going
to have to go up against the finest defense attorneys
on the planet if she used to be successful. This
woman has to head up the task force that tears
(13:34):
apart Internet cells wherever they are found, and we get
this amateur hour crap. Amateur hour is over. It's not
nineteen eighty, it's twenty twenty five. We don't have time
for this. I don't know whether she can be replaced
with someone decent. I don't know whether or not she
(13:56):
can be shaken awake. But I would kindly ask Pam
Bondi to get off Fox News, get off the podcast circuit,
and start doing what we need you to do. AG
The country needs it now. If you're not ready, get
your butt back to Florida. We'll find someone who is. All.
That may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right
(14:20):
freaking fires me up. Cash Mottels fired up today, spoke
in front of the Senate talk about that a little
bit before we talk about that, let me talk to
you about this. Continue to punish the communists for their arrogance,
for the evil deeds they've done, and punish the ones
in corporate America most especially. We didn't get to this
(14:41):
open jails part in our society by accident. We got
there with corporate sponsorship. Go look up your cell phone company.
Go look up Verizon AT and T or T Mobile,
and find out what they were doing when the animals
were burning down police precincts. After George Floyd died, find
out what your cell phone comes. But he did. I
know what mine didn't do. Mine didn't participate. I have
(15:04):
Pure Talk, I pay less, I'm on the exact same network,
and mine didn't participate. Do you want to be part
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We'll be back. Well, let's focus on the other half
(15:32):
of this network that we need to take apart, the
terror network, the Federal Bureau of Investigation. They are the
federal law enforcement arm and we need them right now
and cash ptail set in front of the United States
Senate today, answered a lot of questions that there was
a lot of back and forth, and of course there
were a lot of Communist senators beclowning themselves.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
You are not requiring applicants to be able to do
a certain kind of pull ups, which a lot of
women cannot because of physiological differences. Are you requiring these
kinds of pull ups?
Speaker 8 (16:11):
If you want to chase down a bad guy and
put him in handcuffs, you better be able to do
a pull up.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
The reason I ask is that there are concerns about
whether or not being able to do these kinds of
harsh pull ups is really required of FBI agents.
Speaker 8 (16:27):
Doing harsh and there are always medical exemptions to that.
Speaker 9 (16:32):
Nothing came of that review until July when douj and
FBI released an unsigned memorandum stating there is no incriminating
client list. Why was this July seventh memorandum unsigned?
Speaker 8 (16:45):
Would you prefer I've used auto pen If you want
to work on bringing this country, it's my time, not yours.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
My god, my god.
Speaker 10 (16:52):
If you want to talk about this country, it is
follow you on your social media posts. Try all in
this country, not time for one time.
Speaker 11 (17:08):
You're your time over committee, sir, You don't tell me
my time is over.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
You tell me what my time is. You can't lecture me.
You can tell her my timeget I am not, mister chairman,
afraid of you.
Speaker 12 (17:23):
We have talentlessly proven you to be a lawyer in
Russia Gate in January sixth. You are the brought to
every since the United States Senate, disgrace to this time
and an utter calend I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised
that you continue to lie from your perch and put on.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
A show so you can go raise money.
Speaker 13 (17:46):
For your charade.
Speaker 8 (17:47):
You are political buffoon at best.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Cash standing up for himself there. So of course it
was an embarrassment with Democrats doing exactly what Cash just
pointed out. They're out there raising money. Corey Booker is
very clearly running for president. That's why he has a
fiance now, and that's why he's going to start getting
louder and more obnoxious as these things go on. But
let's move past all that and focus on other things.
(18:13):
What did Cash Pateel reveal, Well, things like fugitives on
the most wanted list going down.
Speaker 8 (18:20):
We have also arrested four captured, four top ten fugitives
from the FBI's top ten most wanted list. To put
that in perspective, that's the same amount I've captured in
seven months that my predecessor did during the entirety of
the Biden administration.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Okay, Well, that raises an interesting question, doesn't it. If
Cash Betel's FBI was able to arrest four people on
the top ten most wanted list in seven months and
Joe Biden Christopher Ray's FBI was only able to arrest
four people in four y years, what were they doing? Well,
(19:06):
that's an important thing to dig into. Senator Chuck Grassley
of Iowa revealed a bit of what they were doing.
Speaker 13 (19:13):
I made public records that whistleblowers provided me about Arctic Frost.
In total, ninety two Republican targets, including Republican groups and
Republican linked individuals, were placed under investigative scope of Arctic Frost.
(19:34):
On that political list was one of Charlie Kirk's group's
turning point USA. In other words, Artic Frost wasn't just
the case to politically investigate Trump. It was the vehicle
by which partisan FBI agents and Department Justice prosecutors could
(20:01):
achieve their partisan ends and improperly investigate the entire Republican
political apparatus.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
It wasn't just that they turned the FBI against you.
They spent four years not breaking up domestic terror cells,
not hunting down those on the most wanted list. They
spent four years hunting down you. It's not just that
the monsters who did it got paid with your money.
Speaker 14 (20:38):
Miss Page resigned from the FBI. Mister Struck was fired.
They promptly sued the federal government in the FBI and
Justice Department for releasing their emails which revealed all this.
The FBI settled that lawsuit for one point two million dollars,
(21:00):
gave mister Struck one point two million dollars cash, gave
Miss Page she resigned, She was and fired, she resigned,
she quit, gave her eight hundred thousand dollars. Who if
the FBI made that decision to give them money.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
The only people that can decide that settlement are the
Attorney General, in conjunction with the Director and the administration.
Speaker 14 (21:22):
Okay, so you're telling me that Attorney General Garland and
Director Ray decided to give them the money.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yes, right, They paid the deep staters of fortune on
the way out the door. This is where we are
now cash When on he talked about how there's been
terminations and things like that, and I'm happy about that.
I'm glad, but let's focus on where we're at as
(21:51):
far as taking apart this domestic terror apparatus in the
wake of the Charlie Cook assassination. As we've already discussed,
that has got to be top priority. Here's what Kash
Bettel said about that.
Speaker 8 (22:03):
Unfortunately, it has been leaked that there was a discord
chat and for those unfamiliar with it, it's a gaming chat
room online that the suspect participated in. And we're also
going to be investigating anyone and everyone involved in that
discord chat.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Okay, very good.
Speaker 15 (22:20):
I see the public reports that the discord thread had
as many as twenty additional users. It sounds like you're
trying to run down all of that to see if
that's accurate. Who else may have been on that thread,
what they may have known.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Is that fair to.
Speaker 8 (22:32):
Say it's a lot more than that, we're running them
all down.
Speaker 15 (22:34):
It's a lot more than twenty, yes, sir, And you're
running all.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Of that together, every single one. Yeah, fantastic.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
I've always said we follow the money and whether it's
terrorism or a tax based on ideology, or a tax
on institutions of faith or people of faith. Someone's paying
for it, and we are reverse tracing those steps. We
are not stopping at the perpetrator themselves. We are reverse
engineering to hold those accountable in our investigations who funded
(23:00):
them and knowingly funded them, and we will bring the
appropriate steps against them with our partners at DOJ.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
That's good, that's the right idea. Let's hope, because I
don't know that this is the case. Let's hope there
are still enough capable FBI agents, not committed communists, capable
FBI agents who were there to dig into this and
run it down. We have to hope. We have to
hope Pam Bondi will find her footing. We have to
(23:27):
hope Cash Betel will do the right thing. We have
to hope the FBI will track down these terror networks,
this dark money behind it. We have a lot of hope,
but that's all we got right now now. Speaking of
this dark money network, Tyler O'Neill wrote a book about it.
You're going to be hearing a lot about dark money
in the coming weeks, months, and years. It's important that
(23:51):
we talked to Tyler about this and expose a bit
of what exactly we're talking about. You're going to learn
a lot in a moment before we do. You're going
to learn about colostrum, well specifically cowboy colostrum. As I
told you, I was nothing but skeptical. In fact, I
sneered at it when my sister told me about it.
(24:13):
This summer, I've been taking colostrum. I don't get sick anymore. Ah,
my gut feels so much better. I'm really skeptical about
such things. I reluctantly said, okay, I'll try it. All right,
pretty great stuff. But mine goes in my coffee in
the morning. I add two scoops. They say you can
(24:35):
add one or two. I add two scoops to my
cup of coffee in the morning. By the way, it's delicious.
Mine's chocolate. I had two scoops in my coffee, so
I essentially have chocolate coffee in the morning, and gut
feels pretty good. I haven't so much as had the
sniffles since I started. Cowboy colostrum is the real deal.
(24:56):
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or I was. I'm a believer. Now we'll be back.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Yes, So what you're referring to is there are these
nonprofit entities that organize, as the President mentioned, attacks on
ice officers, attacks on ORTA patrol agents, organized boxing campaigns,
which are a violation of federal law. They break off
cement and they bring into riots. They have organized drop
points for weapons, organized drop points for a gas mess
(25:37):
organized drop points for all the materials necessary to launch
a riot. And of course you saw that during the
Black Lives Matter.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Rights as well too.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
So there's this whole network of organizations. And I think
the key point the prevident's been making is somebody is
paying for all of this. This is not happening for free,
and so under the President's direction, the Attorney in General
is going to find out who is paying for it,
and they will not be criminally liable for paying for violence.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
This is wonderful. I like it. Now, let's talk to
someone who knows a lot more about it than I do.
Probably you do, Tyler O'Neill. He's the senior editor for
the Daily Signal, but more importantly, he wrote a book
on this. We've talked to him before, called the Woke
depuss about this dark money cabal that is behind all
this stuff. Okay, Tyler, help us understand because this is
(26:25):
so far beyond most of our understanding that this stuff
is paid for and organized. I mean, you turn on CNN,
you see the animals in the streets, and you think
they're just upset citizens. Is that not the case?
Speaker 10 (26:37):
Yeah, So a lot of this and it's sometimes it's
hard to prove exactly what's happening, but many, many times
there are organizations that foot the bill for a lot
of these protesters. And so you get when you saw
the anti Israel encampments on college campuses, you saw people
who had food and coffee and all sorts of things
(27:00):
delivered to them while they're ostensibly protesting and making their
voices known. In some cases, people are actually paid to
engage in these protests, and so some of that funding
it often comes through NGOs that are connected to what
I call the left's dark money network. And this is
a series of nonprofits. Some of them don't like being
(27:23):
called a network, but they all support left wing causes. Often,
you know, it's the constellation of issues I describe as
woke climate alarmism, critical race theory, gender ideology, and a
preference for technocratic government. And they funded the activist groups
that staffed and advised the Biden administration, using the federal
(27:46):
government to push woke ideology on the American people. And
that's the focus of the book. But many of these
same ENGOs and many of the dark money engines behind them,
are also funding some of the protests on the street.
And it's very important for me to say, what we
have is a funding trail where you have some of
(28:06):
these some of these dark money foundations bankrolling some of
these nonprofits that then support protests, and then the protests
become violent. So we don't have concrete proof not only
that the original foundations want there to be violence, but
even that the NGOs that are more directly organizing the
(28:28):
protests want there to be violence. And I think they
work very hard to separate themselves from that violence, partially
because they want to protect themselves from any sort of liability.
So what President Trump is going to have to do,
and what the what the FBI and the DOJ are
going to have to do, is they follow the money,
(28:49):
but then they have to prove somehow that these groups
that were bankrolling these protests organizations wanted to engage in
violence and wanted this to go forward. Because when you
are dealing with a Rico case or any sort of
case of organized crime, you have to demonstrate, not just
(29:10):
you know, there are a lot of things you have
to prove. So I'm really glad that President Trump is
looking at this. I'm really glad that Antifa. Antifa should
be scared to death right now, and they deserve to
be targeted for these things. I mean, we saw in
the riots in twenty twenty, we saw federal buildings attacked
with and we saw police officers attack We saw houses
(29:33):
and buildings burned down, many of them, by the way,
in the same majority minority areas of these big cities
where black people lived and where black lives were snuffed
out in the name of Black lives matter. So you know,
when we're dealing with this, a crackdown on this is
very important. But the administration has to get all its
(29:54):
ducks in a row, and I think they will, But
these investigations are going to take a while, and it's
these are going to be high bars for President Trump
to bring it to these NGOs and to the funders.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Can you explain why we can't why we have such
a hard time following the money because people have a
hard time understanding that. People who don't understand how the
nonprofit world works, how the anonymity of donors work. They
don't understand. I mean, money goes from here to here
to hear. Surely you can track it all, you have
the names. It's quite simple. It sounds like a twenty
four hour job. Can you explain why it's not that simple?
Speaker 10 (30:32):
Yes. So one of the things that we talk about
a lot is dark money, and usually it's the left
condemning the right for this, but the left engages in
it arguably more than the right does. You have these organizations.
So there's a company called Arabella Advisors, and they work
with a whole bunch of nonprofits. And these nonprofits almost
exist to receive money from donors and then take that
(30:57):
money and give it to projects that the donors don't
want to be specifically connected with. And so these foundations,
one of them is called the sixteen thirty Fund. There's
a bigger one called the New Venture Fund. They prop
up a whole bunch of left wing causes across the spectrum,
mostly often on climate issues, but they often run the gamut.
(31:20):
And what you see here is what looks like a
deliberate effort to allow donors to support projects without their
names being tied to it. So that's where dark money
comes in. I want to be very clear, though there
is nothing inherently nefarious about dark money. Dark money is
(31:41):
the right that you and I have to give money
to causes that we believe in without our names being revealed.
I mean this is part of that fundamental First Amendment
freedom where we can advocate for things we believe in.
So we have to be careful. There is a very
big difference between funding terrorism and violence, and that's what
(32:05):
the President is looking into, and I think that's it's
high time we actually have answers to that and funding
non governmental organizations that advocate things in the policy arena
that people can disagree on. There is a big nine
and day difference between these things, and the Left has
often engaged in this very questionable middle ground where they
(32:29):
turn the other way to Antifa. Sometimes they back up Antifa,
sometimes they work with Antifa, and it's like, no, we
need to say Antifa is a violent organization that engages
in effectively domestic terrorism, and we have to oppose its
violence always. And if you're funding this in any way,
(32:52):
that is a red line you're crossing.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
This sounds like and please correctly if i'm me if
I'm wrong with Tyler. This sounds like it was set
up very intentionally and probably with some very expensive lawyers
by the left, and therefore it sounds like this is
going to be a very difficult network to take a
part for Pam Bondy the Attorney General. Am I wrong
(33:17):
in any of that?
Speaker 10 (33:19):
No, You're exactly right when it comes to They've worked
very hard to protect themselves. They have very strong lawyers.
I mean, I've been covering the Southern Poverty Law Center
for over a decade and there are so many cases
where they should be nailed on defamation. But they have
really smart loyalers and they wiggle their way out of it.
(33:40):
And when you're dealing with the SPLC, they're rich and established,
but they're nowhere near as rich and established as the
Open Society Foundations, as Arabella Advisors, as the big the
left dark money network. So these organizations are very ready
to protect themselves. And by the way, I need to
(34:01):
say this until I'm blue in the phase. I don't
have evidence that they directly support or fund any sort
of violence or terrorism or anything like that. But what
I have seen time and time again is a funding
stream connecting much of the left stark money network to
these NGOs that then organize protests, that then engage in violence.
(34:25):
And I think as the FBI and the DOJ looks
at this, they're going to find fertile ground. It's just
it's just going to be a hard slog.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Do you think they're up to it?
Speaker 10 (34:40):
I hope they are. I mean, I think I have confidence.
So there have been really positive and really negative things
we've been seeing from the FBI regards to the Charlie
Kirk case, the fact that they had to release two
persons of interest. Now we're learning more about one of
those persons of interest. It looks as though there are
(35:03):
a lot more questions than we have answers to right now.
And I think there has been a lot of success
in that as well. But this FBI needs to be
gearing up and ready because it's going to be a
big fight, and I hope they can do it. There
are a lot of really really smart, effective, competent people
in the bureau right now, and they need to have,
(35:27):
you know, a strong stealed will because this is not
going to be easy. And I think it's important to mention,
you know, you rightly brought up the Southern Poverty Law
Center on the screen there. The SPLC put Turning Point
USA on their hate map that includes chapters of the
Ku Klux Klan. And they did that in May, just
(35:49):
a few months before this horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk.
And I'm saying this until I'm blue in the face,
but the SPLC had a statement that said we oppose
political violence. That's a tiny step, but I'm sorry, the
SPLC needs to put its money where its mouth is.
If they oppose political violence. They need at the very
(36:11):
least to take Turning Point USA off that hate map
right away, because that is the smallest thing they can
do to show that this is more than just empty
words for them.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Tyler, thank you, my friend. Appreciate it. All right, We're
going to talk to another pastor about what's next for
America's church. Before we talk to him, I know these
are confusing times. It's a lot going on right now.
It's a lot to digest and that's why I want
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Speaker 6 (37:38):
How do you want to be remembered? If I die,
everything just goes away.
Speaker 10 (37:41):
How would you if you could be associated with one thing,
how would you want to be remembered.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
I want to be I want to be remembered for
for courage from my faith. That would be the most
important thing.
Speaker 15 (37:51):
Most important thing is my faith mine.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
That's wonderful and it's spreading now. Certainly was this Sunday,
Hopefully with all the other ugliness going on, there was
a revival coming, and I feel like there might be
joining me now. Pastor John, I'm in Chukwu, Turning Point,
USA contributor, young adult pastor for the Upper Room Church
of God in Christ in North Carolina. Pastor, maybe it's
(38:19):
wishful thinking, so you can tell me if it's wishful thinking.
But it feels like this is revival time. It does.
Speaker 11 (38:29):
You know, martyrdom is a unique and strange thing. The
word martyr means witness and Charlie was assassinated, not simply
keeled or unlive. You know, we don't use that kind
of terminology. He was assassinated because of his biblical worldview
(38:50):
and because of his political positions. And when martyrdom takes place,
even as we see in the Bible, it causes revival
because it deepens the courage and stiffens the spines of
men and women who call on the name of Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Pastor, can you explain why that is the case, because
it very clearly is the case. I went to a
vigil in my tiny town on Saturday night, expecting there
to be five people. There were hundreds in a tiny
town and kids, old people speaking boldly, reading Bible verses, praying.
Shouldn't they be afraid? Someone was just killed for that.
Speaker 11 (39:28):
Well, you know, God has not given us the spirit
of fear, but of power, love, and of a sound mind,
of a sound conscious, and so yes, naturally, because of
our humanity, we may sense fear, but there is something
in us that's greater than ourselves, and it's the Holy Spirit,
(39:50):
you know. And these things take place and give us
power to do unimaginable things and to stand bold, you know,
as lying against the onslaught of the culture. And that's
what Charlie Kirk embodied for thirty one years. And it's
sad to say that we live in a world and
(40:10):
in a culture where if a person can't defeat your arguments,
they seek to take your life. But even in assassinating
Charlie Kirk, they were still not able to prove him wrong,
because you cannot assassinate the truth.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
In this time, we obviously need a strong, wonderful church
as much as ever, but that's not universal. Obviously, I
lost my church a few years ago because of my
effeminate pastor who wouldn't speak boldly. We have terrible churches
of every race and creed in this country. Here's a pastor, well,
at least they call him a Reverend Jamal Bryant after
(40:52):
Charlie was killed here he was.
Speaker 16 (40:54):
I'm concerned about all of these Negro preachers who've been,
in fact talking about that this man that was killed
was the answer to Christ in the earth. Y'all ain't
saying nothing. They having moments of silence in black churches
all over the country over a man that was racist
and a white supremacist. How dare you compare him to
(41:17):
Martin Luther King. The only thing that Charlie Chris and
Martin Luther King got in common is both of them
was killed by white man. After that, they got nothing
else in common.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Pastor, that's so poisonous for everybody. It's just so such
poison and it sickens me that it happens from the pulpit.
Speaker 11 (41:40):
The person that you just listen to, his name is
Jamal Bryant. He's a heretic and a race hustler and
a race baiter. There are a lot of things that
Charlie Kirk and Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King Junior had
in common. First and foremost, the first thing that jumps
off the page is the fact that they were both Christians.
(42:01):
They believed in American exceptionalism. They both believed in the
nuclear family, they were both fathers and husbands, they both
fought against victim mentalities, and they both wanted what was
best for the Black community. And now there are some
people who would tell you that Charlie Kirk was racist
(42:23):
and a bigot. I've worked for Turning Point USA for
the past three and a half years. I'm married to
a beautiful Black woman, have black children. I would never
work for a day, even if they were paying me
tens of millions of dollars. I wouldn't work for a
day for a person that I thought was racist. Charlie
(42:44):
wasn't a racist, but he was one heck of a realist.
And what he would do is critique different individuals and
lifestyles and ideologies and behaviors which scripture and with facts.
But the problem is with men like Jamal Bryant. He
(43:05):
has failed to live a standard where the Black church
has something to live up to. He's dumb down the standard.
Charlie believed that Black Americans in this country could live
up to a higher standard, and that's what he talked about,
and with facts and with information, he addressed these issues.
(43:26):
But people like Jamal Bryant don't want to hear the truth,
so instead of embracing the truth, he would much rather
succumb to calling him a racist. Charlie wrote the forward
in my last book, all right, and it's just so
powerful the things that he said. I want to share
this with you, Charlie said. He said, I had to
(43:47):
watch thousands of pastors call themselves none y century and
gladly closed their churches to worshippers for weeks or even months.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
At a time.
Speaker 11 (43:57):
I've seen pastors who fear their neighbors more than they
fear God, who feared dying most of all.
Speaker 15 (44:05):
And why would.
Speaker 11 (44:06):
Anyone want to follow a Christian who was worried about dying?
And then he goes on to say many glowing things
about yours? Truly, Charlie supported me. Here's the reason why
my message went across this nation in the manner that
it did. When I joined forces with him, I didn't
(44:27):
have a large following, I didn't have a huge platform.
I didn't have the donors pouring in and supporting my efforts.
But because of Charlie Kirk, seeing the favor of God
upon my life and knowing that I had something to
say and offer this nation. Charlie allowed me to incubate
(44:48):
within Turning Point USA, and he pushed my message and
elevated my voice.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Pastor, I appreciate you very much. God bless come back
so we have light in the mood. Next, all right,
it is time to light the mood. And I want
(45:16):
to emphasize this again. There are terrible things happening, and
there are terrible things to come. I know that, but
there are also wonderful things happening and wonderful things to come.
Remember that. Here's a video credit to producer John. This
is where this one came from. Man going to church
for the first time after Charlie dies.
Speaker 7 (45:38):
You know, I don't.
Speaker 17 (45:40):
I don't come from any kind of money and I've
never owned a suit before. My wife she bought me
this suit. I just want my wife to doe. She
made me feel good. It's a three hundred dollars suit.
(46:00):
I never had nothing like this before in my life.
That I tell you what. Okay, video flip here, so
I'm gonna lose some of you. I didn't know Charlie Kirk.
Never met that guy before in my life. And something
else that I've never done before in my life is
believing God. I'm gonna wear this suit to church. I'm
(46:24):
gonna go to church. I'm going to try to be
a better father, husband, and leader for my family. They
deserve that. My phone fell down. I guess that's the
devil trying to put me upright or mess me up right. Now,
(46:49):
I'm gonna try. Y'all, look at this suit.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
How about that who's funny throwing a little cuss word
and corrected himself about though, I'll see them.
Speaker 6 (47:03):
Mm hmmm mmm
Speaker 9 (47:07):
Mmmmmm
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