September 19, 2025 • 45 mins
Jesse Kelly dives into the tactics, strategies, and historical patterns often associated with communist ideologies in America. Jesse unpacks the methods used to influence societies, from propaganda to power consolidation, and examine their impact through real-world examples and historical context. Who is funding it all? Mike Benz joins Jesse to discuss. Plus, Charles Cornish-Dale weighs in with his perspective.I'm Right with Jesse Kelly on The First TV | 9-18-25
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Okay, So we are going to discuss the Communist Playbook
now on this show, and I'm telling you it is
going to be maybe the best special we have ever done.
We have Charles cornish Dale in a couple of minutes
about talking about street communism. Mike Benz is going to
join us and discuss NGOs and Antifa and all the
other stuff. But before we get to any of that,
(00:35):
I just wanted to explain something basic. But it's really
important to understand how the communist sees himself and his mission.
When the Communist revolution first took hold in Russia, which
obviously became the Soviet Union. When they won, the Tsars
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were in power, kings that they're Russians, they just call
themselves ours. Monarchy that had been that had lasted for
a very very long time, and the people were out
of power. Certainly, the Communists didn't have any power at all. Now,
how do you take down a monarchy? They have all
these troops and secret police, and they have all these
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things at your hands, at their hands, So how do
you do it? Well? Carefully and quietly. You can't march
your troops down the street right away to take on
their troops because you will simply be smashed. You don't
have the hard power necessary to take down all those troops,
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so you have to infiltrate. Your revolution involves infiltrating. It
has to agitate people, get the masses rising to your cause,
create descent, create disorder in society. It has to be
done step by step, by step by step. The communists
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revolution is not a day long thing, and the communist
understands that it takes years, sometimes decades for him to
infiltrate to a level where he has the hard power
and he can finally smash the country he hates so much,
which is of course always his own. The communist is
at war with the entire world. Communists are revolutionaries. They
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are infiltrators and revolutionaries. They operate in the exact same
way everywhere they go, which of course brings us to
the United States of America because we look around and
we try to process right now what we see, and
I understand we have better, better leadership now with Trump
in charge, but it's hard to fully comprehend. Okay, you
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have Antifa and the Black Lives Matter and the street
animal types. You have those, Okay, but we kind of
understand that we'll understand a lot more in a little bit.
But then there's the Democrat party in the media. They
seem to speak the same language and almost work with
each other in that. But then the f behind they
work with them too. How do we get to this place? Okay?
(03:10):
So remember institutions. They hold up your country. Every country,
doesn't matter where you're watching the show from, they hold
up your country. Countries have religious institutions, and government institutions,
and educational institutions, and entertainment institutions. These are the pillars
that hold up a society. The communists can never succeed
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in his revolution until he either destroys those pillars or
takes over those pillars. At first, they always attempt to
simply destroy them. That almost always fails. You want a
great example of this, the weather underground in the nineteen seventies,
very violent communist group, nail bombs, killing people, so on
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and so forth. What happened are law enforcement institutions, our
government institutions, which had not been conquered yet, simply reached
down and smashed all these things out of existence like that,
they were gone. That's how it's supposed to work. The
communists saw that got frustrated with that, and so he decided, well,
I'll take over those institutions. I'll infiltrate them. Once I
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infiltrate them, then when we start doing our street animal things,
they not only won't stop me, they'll help me. Remember
as you look around in horror at the assassinations, the vandalism,
to everything you see right now from the street animals
across the United States of America, that the Federal Bureau
of Investigation just completed four years of infiltrating the Catholic
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Church and arresting pro lifers when they weren't arresting Donald
Trump while communists terror rose. I'm going to play you
one clip. In just one clip, I know you've seen
it a million times before. Barack Obama, as you know,
was president for eight years. He is a trained street communist.
He learned on the streets, He learned these infiltration Barack
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Obama got elected president, and he was a different kind
of a Democrat because the hatred he had for America
was he meant it all the way they born and
bred America hater and he discarded the traditional people you
should put into power in government, and he went and
grabbed the most vile maoists he could find, and he
put them in positions of power to complete this infiltration.
(05:24):
This video is a video of Barack Obama's pastor. He
grew up in the pews. Barack Obama, of course, tried
to walk away from him later on. But this mentality
isn't just in Barack Obama's church. It's in your FBI,
it's in CNN, it's in our institutions.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
When it came to treating the citizens of African descent.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Fairly, America failed.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
She put them in change the government, put them on
slave quarters, put them on action auction blocks, put them
in cotton fields, put them in in theory of schools,
and then wants us to.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Sing God bless America. No, no, no, not God bless America.
God America. That's in the Bible for killing innocent people,
God America, for treating a citizens that's less than human.
God America. As long as see clear contact heck like
she is God and she is supreme.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
That disgusting, demonic mentality is everywhere in our institutions. Now
because they marched, now we have to march them out.
We'll talk to Charles Cornishdale in a moment about this race,
communism in other things. Next, I'm skeptical. I'm a natural skeptic.
(06:56):
I'll be honest with you. And this summer, remember I
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We've talked a million times on this show about the
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two different divisions of communism. The elites in the streets.
The elites aren't really true believers, but they're trying for
money and power, and so they give orders to the
violent street animals who go out and march and loot
and vandalize things. And we've talked a lot about race communism.
This is by far the easiest sell to the masses
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that it has been, always will be. It was in
the Soviet Union, it was in China, and it is today.
You know, white people sock all this crap you see,
and remember the street animals get away with the things
they do because they get legal protection from the elite ones.
Remember this stuff. This man's life matters, he matters. Being
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black in America should not be a death sentence.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Black lives that are under threat every single day.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
And I'm glad the mayor of Minneapolis stepped up right
away in the police department and took swift action to
fire the officers involved.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I don't think that's enough.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
And I don't think we can move forward unless we
take your aggressive action to rip out the insidious race
based inequalities and corrupt every part of our society.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I want to be clear and how I characterize this.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
This is mostly a protest. It is not. It is not,
generally speaking unruly.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
They are strictly principled anti fascists and they've taken a
principal stand to stand against white supremacists and white nationalists
wherever they may show up.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
It says it right in the name Antifa anti fascism,
which is what they were there fighting.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Antifa is an idea, not an organization position.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
That's what is to FBI. His FBI direct you know
that we're we're done, sir, We're moving on.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
To the next everybody, and yourstation tells you the truth
is it has a bad idea.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
I tell you what.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
I have no idea that Antifa is a dangerous gentlemen,
We're now.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Moving you know what I mean. Now. One of my
favorites Charles Cornishdale you probably know him as raw a
nationalist online. He wrote a wonderful book, The Last Men.
Highly recommend it, Charles, The Street of Animals. They get
their orders and they march forward and they do what
they do. My brother.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Yes, yeah, that really is the way that it really
is the way that it takes place. And I think
it's important actually to understand that this really is a
domestic insurgency that's taking place. You know, that was made
clear in twenty twenty, and it was good that you
showed clips from twenty twenty from the summer of Floyd
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which really, you know, everything that took place during that
summer showed the way in which the sort of low
level the ground, the foot soldiers, the Antifa dudes, you know,
the black block people on the ground, the way that
they essentially actually take orders from political elites, from local
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political elites, but also from national political elites as well.
So I mean, it really was it really was the
case that actually the Democrat Party basically deployed its own
paramilitary Antifa, these Black Lives Matter people and other groups
onto the streets in order to effect what was basically
a color revolution in twenty twenty. You know, it was
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the sole aim was to prevent Donald Trump from being
re elected, and it worked. So we've seen this in action.
We know that this is exactly how it works. We
know the interplay between these foot soldiers, people on the
ground and the elites, and something's got to be done
about it.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Charles, can you explain in your own words why it works?
Because to a normal logical person, they see Democrats and
their pets assaulting and looting and murdering and destroying things.
And they say to themselves, well, people will naturally reject
that at the voting booth. That's not what people want.
They don't want them, they don't want burning. People will
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go out and roundly reject that. But that's not necessarily
how it works.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Why, No, it's not how it works. And I mean,
I think what you have to understand is you have
to understand the success of the left in capturing the culture.
They've been doing this for decades and in fact, actually
they've been doing it probably for about a century. So
there was a Marxist theorist called Antonio Gramsci who was
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put in prison in Italy in the nineteen twenties, and
he wrote a series of reflections on the failure of
communist revolution in Italy and in the rest of Europe
and the Western world after the success of the Russian Revolution,
and he basically outlined a plan for cultural revolution for
what became known as cultural Marxism. And the plan really
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wasn't anymore to look to the workers, to look to
a kind of economic uprising, but actually to infiltrate and
advert all of the dominant institutions all of the most
important institutions in European societies as a prelude to a
broader social revolution. And so that's what's been happening for decades.
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We've had the capture of all of the institutions of government,
of education, public services, bi radical leftists, and it's born terrible,
terrible fruit. And I think it's produced. It's produced generations
now of young people in particular, who have absolutely no clue,
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have no real mooring in reality. And so, yes, you
do get this, You know, this kind of paradoxical situation
where you think, oh, of course people will reject looting,
they'll reject violence, they'll reject this kind of these kind
of divisive appeals to kind of racial resentment. But of
course they won't because actually they've been stud in it
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for their entire lives, from elementary school through high school
and certainly in university if you attend university. And so
I think there's a huge, huge amount of programming now
that needs to be broken.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
How do we break it? I know Donald Trump famously
came out and said Antifa se tera organization yesterday, and
of course I support that and whatnot. But you could
go smash up as many Antifa cells as you like.
If we have legions of young people who've been indoctrinated
to think that Western society sucks and white people are
the enemy and all these other things, that's a lot
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of years of indoctrination we have to reverse.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Yes, yes it is. I mean this isn't This isn't
going to change overnight. I mean this is the Left
has taken a hundred years really to get this far,
to capture the major institutions of society, to capture the youth,
to create this great indoctrination machine. And so yes, I
mean this is going to be a multi multi year project.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I think.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
I mean one thing that obviously needs to happen is
that we either create parallel institutions, which is what somebody
like Christopher Ruffo, for example, is doing with great with
great success in Florida with I think, what is it
the New College of Humanities or you know, university like
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that that's been taken over and that's now sort of
being de radicalized, as it were. But I also think
that what needs to happen is that the apparatus of
terror needs to be broken up. And that's what's so
encouraging I think about Donald Trump's designation of Antifa is
a terrorist organization. It's the first, it's the first real
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sign that actually the American right, the Conservatives, the Republican Party, whatever,
takes seriously the threat of the radical left as an
organized network, as an organized grouping that employs terror tactics,
that is funded as well by you know, billionaireed owners,
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not just George Soros, but lots of wealthy people are
channeling money into this leftist terror network, getting it out
onto the streets, onto the people who harass, into the
hands of the people who arerass and docks and ultimately
murder people too. So I mean, I think it's going
to have to be a multi pronged approach. It's going
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to have to focus on recapturing institutions, but also in
the immediate term, right now, it needs to focus on
this terror network because you know, last week Charlie Kirk
was murdered by a radical leftist and that's not the
first murder and it probably won't be the last either.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Unfortunately, Charles, what are the billionaires get out of this?
This is one of those psychological things that so many
people struggle with, and as you pointed out, Soros is
of course the boogeyman that everyone knows, and he's very real,
but he's too far from alone. I'm a billionaire, I've
got a yacht in a private chad in ten nineteen
year old girlfriends, and I'm meeting grapes in Greece right now?
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What do I'm going to get involved in all this stuff? For?
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Yeah, it's interesting, it's interesting, and it does, I mean, certainly,
at first glance it does appear to go against the
interests of the billionaires. But I think fundamentally you just
have to think that these people are interested in control.
It is a form of control that they derive, you know,
from financing these groups. It does allow them political power
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and influence. But I think there is possibly two. I
think there is in some cases an actually geological commitment too.
It's difficult to tell. It's difficult to tell, certainly a
true believer from you know, just a billionaire who is
basically trying to increase his power. But I do. But
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I do think it's there too. But it's a it's
a strange it's a strange question, and it's one that's
actually quite hard to answer satisfactorily completely because it just
doesn't seem to make sense. You know, you'd think of
the billionaires, of course, I mean, you know, in classic
Marxist theory, then of course it's the capitalists who are
against the revolutionaries. But that actually isn't necessarily the case.
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I mean, I think these people think they won't get
swallowed up by the revolution, and as we know, I mean,
a revolution almost invariably devours its own children, so they
may very well be mistaken in that regard. But I do,
I do think that people like George Soros and these
billionaires think that they'll be able to keep their wealth,
that they'll be able to keep their influence in uh,
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you know, some sort of future radical left wing communist society.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Generally doesn't work out that way. That's the one good
thing you can say about communist Charles. His book is
The Last Men, highly recommended. Thank you, brother, I appreciate you.
All right, these NGOs Antifa, are you paying for it? Am?
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Speaker 6 (20:30):
I've always said we follow the money, and whether it's
terrorism or a tax based on ideology or a tax
on institutions of faith or people of faith, someone's paying
for it, and we are reverse tracing those steps. We
are not stopping at the perpetrator themselves. We are reverse
engineering to hold those accountable in our investigations to who
funded them and knowingly funded them, and we will bring
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Speaker 1 (20:57):
Okay sounds good, also sound extremely confusing. This stuff gets
very confusing for those of us who don't don't understand
this network NGOs, the nonprofits, and the Arabella advises. How
do how does all this stuff work? Well, well, there's
nobody better to explain this stuff than the great Mike Benz.
You're well familiar with him if you watch this show.
(21:19):
Executive director of the Foundation for Freedom Online, Mike, I
don't understand follow the money NGOs. How's this translated into
antifa terror? Can you please explain it?
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Yes? I think what cash is referring to here is
the flow of funds that go from the you know what,
They're called non governmental organizations. Of course, anytime you need
to put the first thing about yourself is that you're
not something else. That's usually a tell I don't need
to describe myself as a non governmental individual. I think
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if I had to say that as the introduction, you'd
probably think time of FED. But the fact is is
these non governmental organizations, you can think of them as
kind of like stem cells. They're stem cells of the
political influence world, and they can take many forms. They
can be cutouts for government action. When the government wants
to do something but it's either illegal or it would
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be controversial or scandalous, it is farmed out in the
same way that the military uses private military contractors for
dirty work that they don't want to say was authorized
directly by the US government. Governments do the same with NGOs,
and so do billionaires and multinational corporations. They will donate
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to a outside contractor, effectively in the form of a
non profit, and what that means is that the nonprofit
is simply not making a profitable product or service. Their
customer is their sponsor, So they are essentially hit men
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for hire. They are contract killers in a sense, for
the sponsors who pay them to do whatever it is
they are being paid by the sponsors to do. And
when you're talking about these Antifa networks, the networks are
juiced by NGO money, by nonprofit world money, by this
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kind of stem cell like money. And there's a few
ways to look at that. In terms of what's in
the news now about Trump his truth social post about
declaring Antifa terrorist organization. This by the way, I should
not it is not new territory for Trump. In May
twenty twenty, he tweeted out at the time, when he
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still had his active Twitter during the twenty twenty election cycle,
that he was going to be declaring Antifa a terrorist organization.
That did not happen at the time, even though he
tweeted that out. And so we have this truth message.
We don't know if there's any punch behind it in
terms of any sort of executive classification. We're still waiting
for details. But what we do know is that these
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groups that are in the spotlight right now of the
FBI investigation. The New York Post reported that groups like
Armed Queer Salt Lake City and the like are being
investigated right now in the probe into network for potential
coordination or advance foreign knowledge of the like. But these
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groups are entirely run on NGO money, and that NGO
money is downstream of both governments and billionaire you know, secular,
ideological and economic interests. And there's a lot we can
talk about to move from there, but that's the general structure.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Okay, I want to focus on the money portion of
it for a minute. And I asked this question fully
knowing that there is a legal firewall that was built
on purpose that is going to make a lot of
these answers impossible to get. You say, there's NGO money
that goes to these anti fitterror sales. You said, it's
billionaire money, government money. What billionaires in which government agencies?
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Well, well, I'll start with the billionaires. Very famously, the
Open Society Institute, the Open Society Foundations fund all of
these groups to take out threats to right wing extremism
and right wing Ye. I mean these are groups that
are effectively pro democracy groups ostensibly or or groups to
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fight authoritarianism, and they define fascism as right wing authoritarianism.
This is the kind of of stuff that actually goes
back a very long time. I want to lay out
a framework actually if I have a few minutes here
to understand this. The role of NGOs in funding extremist
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movements is not a new thing. In the late nineteen forties,
during the Cold War, the Central Intelligence Agency, the US
State Department, and partnered governments in NATO launched something that
was called Operation Gladio, and this ended up being substantially
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declassified effectively in the nineteen nineties, after all of these
intelligence documents were revealed in court cases in Italy, and
many books have been written about this, But this was
a We had just won the World War Two against
the fascist governments of Italy and Germany, so the governments
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of both the United States and NATO allies were not
pro fascist by any sense. But another threat emerged to
neoliberal commercial interests in Europe from left wing communism, and
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because of the threat of Soviet Union advancement politically throughout
central Eastern Europe and even into Western Europe. The US government,
in tandem with our NATO allies, funded to the tune
of hundreds of millions of dollars in the aggregate over
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the decades what they called stay behind networks of extreme
right wing groups, what you might call kind of fascist
adjacent right wing groups that were very deeply anti communist. Now,
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the CIA did not fund that because they wanted fascists
to take power back, and they didn't fund it on
ideological grounds. They funded it the same way they fund
Isis and al Qaida to take out Bashar Ala Sad.
Many of these front groups religious organizations, media media assistance,
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paramilitary assistants. This was in almost every European country there were.
These right wing fascist adjacent groups would break up meetings,
for example, violently when left wing communists would attempt to organize,
who would crack skulls and crack bones, who would effectively
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create a climate in which it was very hostile to
be a left wing communist, and this was seen as
something that was necessary to support covertly by the US
government and NATO because these were radicals who were willing
to take out It was like an the enemy of
my enemy as my friend. But it was very deeply
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organized and structured. There were formal cells and they were
very secretive. The P two Lounge in Italy and the like,
where you had this kind of secret membership. They brought
in folks from all walks of the business community, the
media community, the government allies, the civil society folks. They
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structured them into these cluster cells, and that was effective
for the Western world to stop the rise of left
wing communism, to contain its rise during the Cold War.
What I believe has been going on for the past
ten years, in sync with what has happened with the
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organized structure of the censorship industrial complex, it had these
very same kind of networks and structures I believe have
been constructed for anti this so called anti fascist groups
to stop the rise of right wing populism that were
done to help what you might call the fascist groups
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to stop left wing communism during the twentieth century. What
you see is a pattern match country by country, Antifa
has been violently wiping out and stopping the ability to
either organize or host speeches, or mobilize or articulate anything
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at all without getting your skull bashed in. In Germany,
in France, in Spain, these violent, effectively Antifa terror cells
are stopping the rise of the of the blob of
the uniparty, state Department, Intel, military, and Chamber of Commerce allies.
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All of their enemies in Europe have had their skulls
cracked by Antifa. While all of these Antifa incubator places
in the universities, in the in the media space, in
the civil society organizations, in the trade organizations, in the
labor organizations are getting hundreds of millions billions of dollars
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of USAID, of of pass through USAID through through sub grants.
And we know that that structure was done to take
out political enemies internationally in the twentieth century. We know
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that that structure existed with the censorship industrial complex. I
want to know and I believe that Tulsa, Gabbett, at
Odie and I has this power as well as their
comparables at the State Department, USAID, the US Agency for
Global Media in other places. I want to know if
we've got an inverse Gladio situation that the same way
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NATO feared breaks it frexit, it'll exit corregs it and
these Antifa groups all used violent terroristic force in order
to stop events like that from happening. I want to
know if you open up the CIA files that ODE
and I, who's got oversight over CIA, where these these
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Antifa groups have military grade opsect. Anyone who's been in
the space will tell you just the unbelievable military grade
nature of the secrecy with which things are conducted, the
multiple burner phones, the multiple past passwords and vetting to
be able to enter closed door meetings or get access
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to anyone in the leadership of these things. You look
at the very strange following and followed on all the
major ANTIVA accounts, and you'll see it's riddled with following
and followed by very strange figures in the military and
intelligence world, while those same groups are taking out the
exact targets of folks who belong to those agencies. I
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believe that if you were to open up the intelligence
files and open up the USA files and open up
potentially I don't know that State would would That might
be a little bit too spicy for State. It would
probably be farmed out to CIA or USAID or USAGM
or one of these others. But I believe we have
a right to know. This is something that I think
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the intelligence community will howl and moan about because it
will expose sources and methods. And how will any group
around the world trust America again to work with that
with their spy agencies if they know that their identities
and networks will be revealed. If the wrong person wins
the election, well I was going to curse, but well
then you shouldn't have friggin weaponized it domestically. You cross
(34:06):
the line. You cross the line this time. If you
wanted to keep this as a global influence operation, then
you should not have brought that war home. This is
like funding ISIS and then having ISIS terror attacks on
US soil. You support this network around the world, These
(34:26):
networks that are global mingle domestically. The flow of funds
is international the exchange of ideas is international. When you
pump up extremist movements around the world for whatever reason,
and even the underlying reason is completely outrageous. It was
there was not a national security threat from the German
AfD Party. It wasn't a national security threat to the
(34:49):
United States. If Marie Le Penn became president in France,
wasn't a national security threat to the United States. At
the Box Party one in Spain. They did it to
play politics, which is the last thing you should ever
use intelligence for. It's the last thing you should ever
use humanitarian relief funds at USAID for. We have a
right to know was this organized, was this supported? Were
(35:12):
these groups used as pawns, as assets in order to
take out political enemies of the state. Right now, we
have a declassification power. We could do a Wikilak style,
a Jfkate files style post eighty five thousand documents, run
a keyword search, go into the search queries at CIA, USAI,
(35:33):
d USAGN, put in the word anti fascist, see what
pops up, and publish everything.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Mike, let me ask you this, how does all this
tie into this really bizarre? Obviously I'm too old to
understand it online World of Darkness where this furry, tranny,
weird ugly world. Discord I know was part of this.
How does all this tie in? I'm sure there's a
tie in, just can't figure it out.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Well, these are channels. So discord is very popular in
the gaming community. It's a very flexible platform and is
a very effective tool for content creators online because it
allows everyone in the community to have a common channel
for sharing their own content that's unique to that community,
(36:28):
you know, videos, gifts. It's also very flexible in that
it allows like voice calls, and so it can immediately
plug in to allow both text and real time communication.
It's also completely ideologically and institutionally captured by the farthest
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parts of the far left. I as a content creator myself,
I've had many many people tell me start a discord,
Start a discord, and I always laugh because I think, okay,
if I want the folks, remember back in two thousand
and set, this started as a gaming community tool, because
(37:11):
you know, it was very all the way that channels
work and the way that you know, every video game
has its own subculture, and then there's kind of overlap
between the social and the entertainment side of it. But
back in twenty seventeen, discord back end people at Discord
were leaking any right wing Discord chat to a group
(37:36):
called unicorn Rite. In fact, there was a Twitter account
called Discord Spies which would publish effectively what people thought
were secure communications on the platform because it was it
was just leaked the back end trust and safety folks
and you know folks behind them, the content moderation team
(37:58):
would just straight up give any conservatives private chats to
violent Antifa groups and that would be used to dos
everybody if they were on an alternate account, it would
be used to dox their IP address and their location,
and these people would be terrorized. So Discord has been
(38:19):
one of these extremely captured platforms, and it has marketed
itself in a certain respect because of that. Those subcultures
to these very far left elements, and among them you
have this kind of Antifa Trantifa type community where you
have essentially pawns of billionaires or intelligence agencies or entrenched
(38:47):
political interests love crazy people. They love crazy stupid people
who are who have what they call a high risk tolerance.
I'm just quoting the US Institute of Peace, the US
government agency that we give tens of millions of dollars
to every year. They recruit what they call high risk
tolerance individuals, people who are willing to get arrested. It's
(39:08):
a direct quote from the founder of the Program on
Non Violent Action at the US Institute of Peace. People
who are willing to get arrested, have a high risk tolerance,
willing to block streets and roads, willing to commit property destruction.
This is defined as part of the Civil Resistance Non
Violent Action Toolkit because they say that if you light
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a police precinct on fire or you burn down at
someone's house, that's technically non violent action they call it
because they simply define violence out of it by saying, well,
it's not bodily harm. No one died in the process
of me lighting this police car on fire, and so
it's nonviolent, just like they're non governmental with these NGOs.
(39:54):
But the fact is is they do also endorse violence.
If you look at, for example, the Armed Queer Salt Lakes,
the head who received accolades from US State Department funded
NGOs and the United Nations openly said there's an incredible
clip where she said, yes, we support violence, we support violent,
(40:15):
violent riots. That's how trans people won their rights with
the Stonewall riots. They were violent. We need to remember
that and be prepared to enact violence. Their recruitment banner
has the phrase the revolution will not be voted in
join armed queers. They're calling for an armed revolution as
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a substitute for voting. I had a half joking tweet
where I said, you know, physics tells us that the
fastest thing in the universe is the speed of light.
But that's not true. The fastest thing in the universe
is the speed at which the FBI would descend on
a right wing gun group that calls for an armed
revolution as a substitute for voting. The fact is is
(41:00):
because these groups have been tools of state interests and
a billionaire interests for a decade now, they have gotten
a get out of law enforcement free card. The way
domestic extremism or domestic terrorism has been defined by our
Department of Homeland Security, by our FBI, by our intel
(41:24):
services presupposes that it can only come from the right
wing and that there's not even such a thing as
an organized anti fascist groups, despite their closed door meetings
and multiple burner phones and organized Twitter accounts and organized
discord channels and mass distribution of hundreds of clubs and
(41:46):
riot shields and bricks and arson materials that every instantaneous
pop up riot they do despite having institutional support from
the professor class, the civil society, and NGO class from
the media every single time, and zero action by federal
law enforcement for a decade about this. Nobody on the
(42:09):
right would dare to say what like Destiny came out
and said this week about yeah, actually more people need
to die and get shot in the face so that
conservatives fear showing their faces in public. That is an
open embrace of terroristic violence. And nobody, nobody in a
(42:32):
decade on the right wing would dare to say ten
percent of that because they know the speed at which
their life would become a true Truman show. Every new
friend they meet would be a federal agent from a
different office or bureau. Everybody would shun them because they
would know they're a Fed. And what scares me is
(42:53):
when I hear them say that, I don't think they're Feds.
I think they haven't had the fear of the Feds
put into them. Because the crazy groups on the right
that did this a decade ago, these like Adam Waffin
type groups. They were infiltrated and neutralized so fast by
federal law enforcement. So I don't want to hear a
damn about oh, you know, this is a weaponization of government,
(43:16):
when this was exactly what was done and it achieved
exactly what they said they wanted. The fact is is
you got to cut the money, You've got to declassify
all of this. I want to know every single global
network that's been instrumentalized for this purpose, and I want
to know if that factored into the decision by federal
law enforcement to protect these groups at every level for
(43:39):
the past decade. Charlie Kirk is dead and we have
a right to know now.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Mike freaking Dynamite as always, brother, thank you. I have
some final thoughts next. I love my cell phone company.
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is now? Well that was a lot. Told you it
was going to be a great show. We just we
have to continue to have these conversations and understand their methods,
(45:14):
understand what we're up against. And it could be difficult
because as we talked about, as Mike laid out, it's
all covered in layers of lies, layers of cover here,
in legal cover there. We just have to understand how
these communists infiltrate. Just remember that's the most important point,
the one I made in the beginning. They see themselves
(45:35):
as infiltrators, as revolutionaries and that's why they operate the
way they operate. We'll do it again.
Okay, So we are going to discuss the Communist Playbook
now on this show, and I'm telling you it is
going to be maybe the best special we have ever done.
We have Charles cornish Dale in a couple of minutes
about talking about street communism. Mike Benz is going to
join us and discuss NGOs and Antifa and all the
other stuff. But before we get to any of that,
(00:35):
I just wanted to explain something basic. But it's really
important to understand how the communist sees himself and his mission.
When the Communist revolution first took hold in Russia, which
obviously became the Soviet Union. When they won, the Tsars
(00:56):
were in power, kings that they're Russians, they just call
themselves ours. Monarchy that had been that had lasted for
a very very long time, and the people were out
of power. Certainly, the Communists didn't have any power at all. Now,
how do you take down a monarchy? They have all
these troops and secret police, and they have all these
(01:16):
things at your hands, at their hands, So how do
you do it? Well? Carefully and quietly. You can't march
your troops down the street right away to take on
their troops because you will simply be smashed. You don't
have the hard power necessary to take down all those troops,
(01:37):
so you have to infiltrate. Your revolution involves infiltrating. It
has to agitate people, get the masses rising to your cause,
create descent, create disorder in society. It has to be
done step by step, by step by step. The communists
(02:00):
revolution is not a day long thing, and the communist
understands that it takes years, sometimes decades for him to
infiltrate to a level where he has the hard power
and he can finally smash the country he hates so much,
which is of course always his own. The communist is
at war with the entire world. Communists are revolutionaries. They
(02:23):
are infiltrators and revolutionaries. They operate in the exact same
way everywhere they go, which of course brings us to
the United States of America because we look around and
we try to process right now what we see, and
I understand we have better, better leadership now with Trump
in charge, but it's hard to fully comprehend. Okay, you
(02:46):
have Antifa and the Black Lives Matter and the street
animal types. You have those, Okay, but we kind of
understand that we'll understand a lot more in a little bit.
But then there's the Democrat party in the media. They
seem to speak the same language and almost work with
each other in that. But then the f behind they
work with them too. How do we get to this place? Okay?
(03:10):
So remember institutions. They hold up your country. Every country,
doesn't matter where you're watching the show from, they hold
up your country. Countries have religious institutions, and government institutions,
and educational institutions, and entertainment institutions. These are the pillars
that hold up a society. The communists can never succeed
(03:33):
in his revolution until he either destroys those pillars or
takes over those pillars. At first, they always attempt to
simply destroy them. That almost always fails. You want a
great example of this, the weather underground in the nineteen seventies,
very violent communist group, nail bombs, killing people, so on
(03:53):
and so forth. What happened are law enforcement institutions, our
government institutions, which had not been conquered yet, simply reached
down and smashed all these things out of existence like that,
they were gone. That's how it's supposed to work. The
communists saw that got frustrated with that, and so he decided, well,
I'll take over those institutions. I'll infiltrate them. Once I
(04:17):
infiltrate them, then when we start doing our street animal things,
they not only won't stop me, they'll help me. Remember
as you look around in horror at the assassinations, the vandalism,
to everything you see right now from the street animals
across the United States of America, that the Federal Bureau
of Investigation just completed four years of infiltrating the Catholic
(04:40):
Church and arresting pro lifers when they weren't arresting Donald
Trump while communists terror rose. I'm going to play you
one clip. In just one clip, I know you've seen
it a million times before. Barack Obama, as you know,
was president for eight years. He is a trained street communist.
He learned on the streets, He learned these infiltration Barack
(05:01):
Obama got elected president, and he was a different kind
of a Democrat because the hatred he had for America
was he meant it all the way they born and
bred America hater and he discarded the traditional people you
should put into power in government, and he went and
grabbed the most vile maoists he could find, and he
put them in positions of power to complete this infiltration.
(05:24):
This video is a video of Barack Obama's pastor. He
grew up in the pews. Barack Obama, of course, tried
to walk away from him later on. But this mentality
isn't just in Barack Obama's church. It's in your FBI,
it's in CNN, it's in our institutions.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
When it came to treating the citizens of African descent.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Fairly, America failed.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
She put them in change the government, put them on
slave quarters, put them on action auction blocks, put them
in cotton fields, put them in in theory of schools,
and then wants us to.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Sing God bless America. No, no, no, not God bless America.
God America. That's in the Bible for killing innocent people,
God America, for treating a citizens that's less than human.
God America. As long as see clear contact heck like
she is God and she is supreme.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
That disgusting, demonic mentality is everywhere in our institutions. Now
because they marched, now we have to march them out.
We'll talk to Charles Cornishdale in a moment about this race,
communism in other things. Next, I'm skeptical. I'm a natural skeptic.
(06:56):
I'll be honest with you. And this summer, remember I
told you we went to Montana, was hanging out a
lot with my sister who lives up there, and she
started talking about colostrum, colostrum this, and colostrum that, and
started talking about how great her stomach feels now and
how she never gets sick anymore. And I thought to myself,
(07:17):
that doesn't sound real. That surely isn't real, but reluctantly
decided to because Cowboy colostrum is delicious. It's strawberry and
chocolate and vanilla. So what I started doing was pouring
a couple scoops in my coffee in the morning, two
scoops in the morning, so I now have chocolate coffee.
I've not been sick since. I tell you what. The
(07:38):
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We've talked a million times on this show about the
(08:01):
two different divisions of communism. The elites in the streets.
The elites aren't really true believers, but they're trying for
money and power, and so they give orders to the
violent street animals who go out and march and loot
and vandalize things. And we've talked a lot about race communism.
This is by far the easiest sell to the masses
(08:21):
that it has been, always will be. It was in
the Soviet Union, it was in China, and it is today.
You know, white people sock all this crap you see,
and remember the street animals get away with the things
they do because they get legal protection from the elite ones.
Remember this stuff. This man's life matters, he matters. Being
(08:45):
black in America should not be a death sentence.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Black lives that are under threat every single day.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
And I'm glad the mayor of Minneapolis stepped up right
away in the police department and took swift action to
fire the officers involved.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I don't think that's enough.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
And I don't think we can move forward unless we
take your aggressive action to rip out the insidious race
based inequalities and corrupt every part of our society.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I want to be clear and how I characterize this.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
This is mostly a protest. It is not. It is not,
generally speaking unruly.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
They are strictly principled anti fascists and they've taken a
principal stand to stand against white supremacists and white nationalists
wherever they may show up.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
It says it right in the name Antifa anti fascism,
which is what they were there fighting.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Antifa is an idea, not an organization position.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
That's what is to FBI. His FBI direct you know
that we're we're done, sir, We're moving on.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
To the next everybody, and yourstation tells you the truth
is it has a bad idea.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
I tell you what.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
I have no idea that Antifa is a dangerous gentlemen,
We're now.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Moving you know what I mean. Now. One of my
favorites Charles Cornishdale you probably know him as raw a
nationalist online. He wrote a wonderful book, The Last Men.
Highly recommend it, Charles, The Street of Animals. They get
their orders and they march forward and they do what
they do. My brother.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Yes, yeah, that really is the way that it really
is the way that it takes place. And I think
it's important actually to understand that this really is a
domestic insurgency that's taking place. You know, that was made
clear in twenty twenty, and it was good that you
showed clips from twenty twenty from the summer of Floyd
(10:37):
which really, you know, everything that took place during that
summer showed the way in which the sort of low
level the ground, the foot soldiers, the Antifa dudes, you know,
the black block people on the ground, the way that
they essentially actually take orders from political elites, from local
(10:59):
political elites, but also from national political elites as well.
So I mean, it really was it really was the
case that actually the Democrat Party basically deployed its own
paramilitary Antifa, these Black Lives Matter people and other groups
onto the streets in order to effect what was basically
a color revolution in twenty twenty. You know, it was
(11:20):
the sole aim was to prevent Donald Trump from being
re elected, and it worked. So we've seen this in action.
We know that this is exactly how it works. We
know the interplay between these foot soldiers, people on the
ground and the elites, and something's got to be done
about it.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Charles, can you explain in your own words why it works?
Because to a normal logical person, they see Democrats and
their pets assaulting and looting and murdering and destroying things.
And they say to themselves, well, people will naturally reject
that at the voting booth. That's not what people want.
They don't want them, they don't want burning. People will
(12:02):
go out and roundly reject that. But that's not necessarily
how it works.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Why, No, it's not how it works. And I mean,
I think what you have to understand is you have
to understand the success of the left in capturing the culture.
They've been doing this for decades and in fact, actually
they've been doing it probably for about a century. So
there was a Marxist theorist called Antonio Gramsci who was
(12:27):
put in prison in Italy in the nineteen twenties, and
he wrote a series of reflections on the failure of
communist revolution in Italy and in the rest of Europe
and the Western world after the success of the Russian Revolution,
and he basically outlined a plan for cultural revolution for
what became known as cultural Marxism. And the plan really
(12:51):
wasn't anymore to look to the workers, to look to
a kind of economic uprising, but actually to infiltrate and
advert all of the dominant institutions all of the most
important institutions in European societies as a prelude to a
broader social revolution. And so that's what's been happening for decades.
(13:13):
We've had the capture of all of the institutions of government,
of education, public services, bi radical leftists, and it's born terrible,
terrible fruit. And I think it's produced. It's produced generations
now of young people in particular, who have absolutely no clue,
(13:39):
have no real mooring in reality. And so, yes, you
do get this, You know, this kind of paradoxical situation
where you think, oh, of course people will reject looting,
they'll reject violence, they'll reject this kind of these kind
of divisive appeals to kind of racial resentment. But of
course they won't because actually they've been stud in it
(14:00):
for their entire lives, from elementary school through high school
and certainly in university if you attend university. And so
I think there's a huge, huge amount of programming now
that needs to be broken.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
How do we break it? I know Donald Trump famously
came out and said Antifa se tera organization yesterday, and
of course I support that and whatnot. But you could
go smash up as many Antifa cells as you like.
If we have legions of young people who've been indoctrinated
to think that Western society sucks and white people are
the enemy and all these other things, that's a lot
(14:37):
of years of indoctrination we have to reverse.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Yes, yes it is. I mean this isn't This isn't
going to change overnight. I mean this is the Left
has taken a hundred years really to get this far,
to capture the major institutions of society, to capture the youth,
to create this great indoctrination machine. And so yes, I
mean this is going to be a multi multi year project.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I think.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
I mean one thing that obviously needs to happen is
that we either create parallel institutions, which is what somebody
like Christopher Ruffo, for example, is doing with great with
great success in Florida with I think, what is it
the New College of Humanities or you know, university like
(15:25):
that that's been taken over and that's now sort of
being de radicalized, as it were. But I also think
that what needs to happen is that the apparatus of
terror needs to be broken up. And that's what's so
encouraging I think about Donald Trump's designation of Antifa is
a terrorist organization. It's the first, it's the first real
(15:48):
sign that actually the American right, the Conservatives, the Republican Party, whatever,
takes seriously the threat of the radical left as an
organized network, as an organized grouping that employs terror tactics,
that is funded as well by you know, billionaireed owners,
(16:10):
not just George Soros, but lots of wealthy people are
channeling money into this leftist terror network, getting it out
onto the streets, onto the people who harass, into the
hands of the people who arerass and docks and ultimately
murder people too. So I mean, I think it's going
to have to be a multi pronged approach. It's going
(16:31):
to have to focus on recapturing institutions, but also in
the immediate term, right now, it needs to focus on
this terror network because you know, last week Charlie Kirk
was murdered by a radical leftist and that's not the
first murder and it probably won't be the last either.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Unfortunately, Charles, what are the billionaires get out of this?
This is one of those psychological things that so many
people struggle with, and as you pointed out, Soros is
of course the boogeyman that everyone knows, and he's very real,
but he's too far from alone. I'm a billionaire, I've
got a yacht in a private chad in ten nineteen
year old girlfriends, and I'm meeting grapes in Greece right now?
(17:15):
What do I'm going to get involved in all this stuff? For?
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Yeah, it's interesting, it's interesting, and it does, I mean, certainly,
at first glance it does appear to go against the
interests of the billionaires. But I think fundamentally you just
have to think that these people are interested in control.
It is a form of control that they derive, you know,
from financing these groups. It does allow them political power
(17:42):
and influence. But I think there is possibly two. I
think there is in some cases an actually geological commitment too.
It's difficult to tell. It's difficult to tell, certainly a
true believer from you know, just a billionaire who is
basically trying to increase his power. But I do. But
(18:03):
I do think it's there too. But it's a it's
a strange it's a strange question, and it's one that's
actually quite hard to answer satisfactorily completely because it just
doesn't seem to make sense. You know, you'd think of
the billionaires, of course, I mean, you know, in classic
Marxist theory, then of course it's the capitalists who are
against the revolutionaries. But that actually isn't necessarily the case.
(18:25):
I mean, I think these people think they won't get
swallowed up by the revolution, and as we know, I mean,
a revolution almost invariably devours its own children, so they
may very well be mistaken in that regard. But I do,
I do think that people like George Soros and these
billionaires think that they'll be able to keep their wealth,
that they'll be able to keep their influence in uh,
(18:49):
you know, some sort of future radical left wing communist society.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Generally doesn't work out that way. That's the one good
thing you can say about communist Charles. His book is
The Last Men, highly recommended. Thank you, brother, I appreciate you.
All right, these NGOs Antifa, are you paying for it? Am?
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Speaker 6 (20:30):
I've always said we follow the money, and whether it's
terrorism or a tax based on ideology or a tax
on institutions of faith or people of faith, someone's paying
for it, and we are reverse tracing those steps. We
are not stopping at the perpetrator themselves. We are reverse
engineering to hold those accountable in our investigations to who
funded them and knowingly funded them, and we will bring
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the appropriate steps against them with our partners at doj.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Okay sounds good, also sound extremely confusing. This stuff gets
very confusing for those of us who don't don't understand
this network NGOs, the nonprofits, and the Arabella advises. How
do how does all this stuff work? Well, well, there's
nobody better to explain this stuff than the great Mike Benz.
You're well familiar with him if you watch this show.
(21:19):
Executive director of the Foundation for Freedom Online, Mike, I
don't understand follow the money NGOs. How's this translated into
antifa terror? Can you please explain it?
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Yes? I think what cash is referring to here is
the flow of funds that go from the you know what,
They're called non governmental organizations. Of course, anytime you need
to put the first thing about yourself is that you're
not something else. That's usually a tell I don't need
to describe myself as a non governmental individual. I think
(21:56):
if I had to say that as the introduction, you'd
probably think time of FED. But the fact is is
these non governmental organizations, you can think of them as
kind of like stem cells. They're stem cells of the
political influence world, and they can take many forms. They
can be cutouts for government action. When the government wants
to do something but it's either illegal or it would
(22:18):
be controversial or scandalous, it is farmed out in the
same way that the military uses private military contractors for
dirty work that they don't want to say was authorized
directly by the US government. Governments do the same with NGOs,
and so do billionaires and multinational corporations. They will donate
(22:41):
to a outside contractor, effectively in the form of a
non profit, and what that means is that the nonprofit
is simply not making a profitable product or service. Their
customer is their sponsor, So they are essentially hit men
(23:01):
for hire. They are contract killers in a sense, for
the sponsors who pay them to do whatever it is
they are being paid by the sponsors to do. And
when you're talking about these Antifa networks, the networks are
juiced by NGO money, by nonprofit world money, by this
(23:25):
kind of stem cell like money. And there's a few
ways to look at that. In terms of what's in
the news now about Trump his truth social post about
declaring Antifa terrorist organization. This by the way, I should
not it is not new territory for Trump. In May
twenty twenty, he tweeted out at the time, when he
(23:46):
still had his active Twitter during the twenty twenty election cycle,
that he was going to be declaring Antifa a terrorist organization.
That did not happen at the time, even though he
tweeted that out. And so we have this truth message.
We don't know if there's any punch behind it in
terms of any sort of executive classification. We're still waiting
for details. But what we do know is that these
(24:10):
groups that are in the spotlight right now of the
FBI investigation. The New York Post reported that groups like
Armed Queer Salt Lake City and the like are being
investigated right now in the probe into network for potential
coordination or advance foreign knowledge of the like. But these
(24:32):
groups are entirely run on NGO money, and that NGO
money is downstream of both governments and billionaire you know, secular,
ideological and economic interests. And there's a lot we can
talk about to move from there, but that's the general structure.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Okay, I want to focus on the money portion of
it for a minute. And I asked this question fully
knowing that there is a legal firewall that was built
on purpose that is going to make a lot of
these answers impossible to get. You say, there's NGO money
that goes to these anti fitterror sales. You said, it's
billionaire money, government money. What billionaires in which government agencies?
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Well, well, I'll start with the billionaires. Very famously, the
Open Society Institute, the Open Society Foundations fund all of
these groups to take out threats to right wing extremism
and right wing Ye. I mean these are groups that
are effectively pro democracy groups ostensibly or or groups to
(25:44):
fight authoritarianism, and they define fascism as right wing authoritarianism.
This is the kind of of stuff that actually goes
back a very long time. I want to lay out
a framework actually if I have a few minutes here
to understand this. The role of NGOs in funding extremist
(26:09):
movements is not a new thing. In the late nineteen forties,
during the Cold War, the Central Intelligence Agency, the US
State Department, and partnered governments in NATO launched something that
was called Operation Gladio, and this ended up being substantially
(26:33):
declassified effectively in the nineteen nineties, after all of these
intelligence documents were revealed in court cases in Italy, and
many books have been written about this, But this was
a We had just won the World War Two against
the fascist governments of Italy and Germany, so the governments
(26:58):
of both the United States and NATO allies were not
pro fascist by any sense. But another threat emerged to
neoliberal commercial interests in Europe from left wing communism, and
(27:18):
because of the threat of Soviet Union advancement politically throughout
central Eastern Europe and even into Western Europe. The US government,
in tandem with our NATO allies, funded to the tune
of hundreds of millions of dollars in the aggregate over
(27:39):
the decades what they called stay behind networks of extreme
right wing groups, what you might call kind of fascist
adjacent right wing groups that were very deeply anti communist. Now,
(28:00):
the CIA did not fund that because they wanted fascists
to take power back, and they didn't fund it on
ideological grounds. They funded it the same way they fund
Isis and al Qaida to take out Bashar Ala Sad.
Many of these front groups religious organizations, media media assistance,
(28:29):
paramilitary assistants. This was in almost every European country there were.
These right wing fascist adjacent groups would break up meetings,
for example, violently when left wing communists would attempt to organize,
who would crack skulls and crack bones, who would effectively
(28:52):
create a climate in which it was very hostile to
be a left wing communist, and this was seen as
something that was necessary to support covertly by the US
government and NATO because these were radicals who were willing
to take out It was like an the enemy of
my enemy as my friend. But it was very deeply
(29:15):
organized and structured. There were formal cells and they were
very secretive. The P two Lounge in Italy and the like,
where you had this kind of secret membership. They brought
in folks from all walks of the business community, the
media community, the government allies, the civil society folks. They
(29:40):
structured them into these cluster cells, and that was effective
for the Western world to stop the rise of left
wing communism, to contain its rise during the Cold War.
What I believe has been going on for the past
ten years, in sync with what has happened with the
(30:00):
organized structure of the censorship industrial complex, it had these
very same kind of networks and structures I believe have
been constructed for anti this so called anti fascist groups
to stop the rise of right wing populism that were
done to help what you might call the fascist groups
(30:22):
to stop left wing communism during the twentieth century. What
you see is a pattern match country by country, Antifa
has been violently wiping out and stopping the ability to
either organize or host speeches, or mobilize or articulate anything
(30:43):
at all without getting your skull bashed in. In Germany,
in France, in Spain, these violent, effectively Antifa terror cells
are stopping the rise of the of the blob of
the uniparty, state Department, Intel, military, and Chamber of Commerce allies.
(31:08):
All of their enemies in Europe have had their skulls
cracked by Antifa. While all of these Antifa incubator places
in the universities, in the in the media space, in
the civil society organizations, in the trade organizations, in the
labor organizations are getting hundreds of millions billions of dollars
(31:30):
of USAID, of of pass through USAID through through sub grants.
And we know that that structure was done to take
out political enemies internationally in the twentieth century. We know
(31:50):
that that structure existed with the censorship industrial complex. I
want to know and I believe that Tulsa, Gabbett, at
Odie and I has this power as well as their
comparables at the State Department, USAID, the US Agency for
Global Media in other places. I want to know if
we've got an inverse Gladio situation that the same way
(32:12):
NATO feared breaks it frexit, it'll exit corregs it and
these Antifa groups all used violent terroristic force in order
to stop events like that from happening. I want to
know if you open up the CIA files that ODE
and I, who's got oversight over CIA, where these these
(32:36):
Antifa groups have military grade opsect. Anyone who's been in
the space will tell you just the unbelievable military grade
nature of the secrecy with which things are conducted, the
multiple burner phones, the multiple past passwords and vetting to
be able to enter closed door meetings or get access
(32:57):
to anyone in the leadership of these things. You look
at the very strange following and followed on all the
major ANTIVA accounts, and you'll see it's riddled with following
and followed by very strange figures in the military and
intelligence world, while those same groups are taking out the
exact targets of folks who belong to those agencies. I
(33:22):
believe that if you were to open up the intelligence
files and open up the USA files and open up
potentially I don't know that State would would That might
be a little bit too spicy for State. It would
probably be farmed out to CIA or USAID or USAGM
or one of these others. But I believe we have
a right to know. This is something that I think
(33:44):
the intelligence community will howl and moan about because it
will expose sources and methods. And how will any group
around the world trust America again to work with that
with their spy agencies if they know that their identities
and networks will be revealed. If the wrong person wins
the election, well I was going to curse, but well
then you shouldn't have friggin weaponized it domestically. You cross
(34:06):
the line. You cross the line this time. If you
wanted to keep this as a global influence operation, then
you should not have brought that war home. This is
like funding ISIS and then having ISIS terror attacks on
US soil. You support this network around the world, These
(34:26):
networks that are global mingle domestically. The flow of funds
is international the exchange of ideas is international. When you
pump up extremist movements around the world for whatever reason,
and even the underlying reason is completely outrageous. It was
there was not a national security threat from the German
AfD Party. It wasn't a national security threat to the
(34:49):
United States. If Marie Le Penn became president in France,
wasn't a national security threat to the United States. At
the Box Party one in Spain. They did it to
play politics, which is the last thing you should ever
use intelligence for. It's the last thing you should ever
use humanitarian relief funds at USAID for. We have a
right to know was this organized, was this supported? Were
(35:12):
these groups used as pawns, as assets in order to
take out political enemies of the state. Right now, we
have a declassification power. We could do a Wikilak style,
a Jfkate files style post eighty five thousand documents, run
a keyword search, go into the search queries at CIA, USAI,
(35:33):
d USAGN, put in the word anti fascist, see what
pops up, and publish everything.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Mike, let me ask you this, how does all this
tie into this really bizarre? Obviously I'm too old to
understand it online World of Darkness where this furry, tranny,
weird ugly world. Discord I know was part of this.
How does all this tie in? I'm sure there's a
tie in, just can't figure it out.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Well, these are channels. So discord is very popular in
the gaming community. It's a very flexible platform and is
a very effective tool for content creators online because it
allows everyone in the community to have a common channel
for sharing their own content that's unique to that community,
(36:28):
you know, videos, gifts. It's also very flexible in that
it allows like voice calls, and so it can immediately
plug in to allow both text and real time communication.
It's also completely ideologically and institutionally captured by the farthest
(36:51):
parts of the far left. I as a content creator myself,
I've had many many people tell me start a discord,
Start a discord, and I always laugh because I think, okay,
if I want the folks, remember back in two thousand
and set, this started as a gaming community tool, because
(37:11):
you know, it was very all the way that channels
work and the way that you know, every video game
has its own subculture, and then there's kind of overlap
between the social and the entertainment side of it. But
back in twenty seventeen, discord back end people at Discord
were leaking any right wing Discord chat to a group
(37:36):
called unicorn Rite. In fact, there was a Twitter account
called Discord Spies which would publish effectively what people thought
were secure communications on the platform because it was it
was just leaked the back end trust and safety folks
and you know folks behind them, the content moderation team
(37:58):
would just straight up give any conservatives private chats to
violent Antifa groups and that would be used to dos
everybody if they were on an alternate account, it would
be used to dox their IP address and their location,
and these people would be terrorized. So Discord has been
(38:19):
one of these extremely captured platforms, and it has marketed
itself in a certain respect because of that. Those subcultures
to these very far left elements, and among them you
have this kind of Antifa Trantifa type community where you
have essentially pawns of billionaires or intelligence agencies or entrenched
(38:47):
political interests love crazy people. They love crazy stupid people
who are who have what they call a high risk tolerance.
I'm just quoting the US Institute of Peace, the US
government agency that we give tens of millions of dollars
to every year. They recruit what they call high risk
tolerance individuals, people who are willing to get arrested. It's
(39:08):
a direct quote from the founder of the Program on
Non Violent Action at the US Institute of Peace. People
who are willing to get arrested, have a high risk tolerance,
willing to block streets and roads, willing to commit property destruction.
This is defined as part of the Civil Resistance Non
Violent Action Toolkit because they say that if you light
(39:31):
a police precinct on fire or you burn down at
someone's house, that's technically non violent action they call it
because they simply define violence out of it by saying, well,
it's not bodily harm. No one died in the process
of me lighting this police car on fire, and so
it's nonviolent, just like they're non governmental with these NGOs.
(39:54):
But the fact is is they do also endorse violence.
If you look at, for example, the Armed Queer Salt Lakes,
the head who received accolades from US State Department funded
NGOs and the United Nations openly said there's an incredible
clip where she said, yes, we support violence, we support violent,
(40:15):
violent riots. That's how trans people won their rights with
the Stonewall riots. They were violent. We need to remember
that and be prepared to enact violence. Their recruitment banner
has the phrase the revolution will not be voted in
join armed queers. They're calling for an armed revolution as
(40:37):
a substitute for voting. I had a half joking tweet
where I said, you know, physics tells us that the
fastest thing in the universe is the speed of light.
But that's not true. The fastest thing in the universe
is the speed at which the FBI would descend on
a right wing gun group that calls for an armed
revolution as a substitute for voting. The fact is is
(41:00):
because these groups have been tools of state interests and
a billionaire interests for a decade now, they have gotten
a get out of law enforcement free card. The way
domestic extremism or domestic terrorism has been defined by our
Department of Homeland Security, by our FBI, by our intel
(41:24):
services presupposes that it can only come from the right
wing and that there's not even such a thing as
an organized anti fascist groups, despite their closed door meetings
and multiple burner phones and organized Twitter accounts and organized
discord channels and mass distribution of hundreds of clubs and
(41:46):
riot shields and bricks and arson materials that every instantaneous
pop up riot they do despite having institutional support from
the professor class, the civil society, and NGO class from
the media every single time, and zero action by federal
law enforcement for a decade about this. Nobody on the
(42:09):
right would dare to say what like Destiny came out
and said this week about yeah, actually more people need
to die and get shot in the face so that
conservatives fear showing their faces in public. That is an
open embrace of terroristic violence. And nobody, nobody in a
(42:32):
decade on the right wing would dare to say ten
percent of that because they know the speed at which
their life would become a true Truman show. Every new
friend they meet would be a federal agent from a
different office or bureau. Everybody would shun them because they
would know they're a Fed. And what scares me is
(42:53):
when I hear them say that, I don't think they're Feds.
I think they haven't had the fear of the Feds
put into them. Because the crazy groups on the right
that did this a decade ago, these like Adam Waffin
type groups. They were infiltrated and neutralized so fast by
federal law enforcement. So I don't want to hear a
damn about oh, you know, this is a weaponization of government,
(43:16):
when this was exactly what was done and it achieved
exactly what they said they wanted. The fact is is
you got to cut the money, You've got to declassify
all of this. I want to know every single global
network that's been instrumentalized for this purpose, and I want
to know if that factored into the decision by federal
law enforcement to protect these groups at every level for
(43:39):
the past decade. Charlie Kirk is dead and we have
a right to know now.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Mike freaking Dynamite as always, brother, thank you. I have
some final thoughts next. I love my cell phone company.
I love having a cell phone company that I never
have to worry about because here's the thing I had
(44:09):
before I switched to Pure Talk. I had T Mobile,
and I remember we had to go to the mall.
It was time to get my kid a phone, replace
a phone. I forget what we were doing at the mall.
There was a T Mobile there in the mall, and
we went to the mall and walked right up to
the door and there's a big old Pride flag slapped
right there on the door. And I remember feeling about
that high that I pay for that, I pay for
(44:31):
all that filth all this corporate America filth at and
TT Mobile, Verizon, we pay for that. You can switch
to Puretalk and never have to worry about your cell
phone company again. You'll never wake up to a rainbow flag,
maybe an American flag, never a rainbow flag, and you'll
pay way less, not a little less, way less. Switch puretalk,
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dot com, slash JESSETV. They make it easy. Time to switch,
is now? Well that was a lot. Told you it
was going to be a great show. We just we
have to continue to have these conversations and understand their methods,
(45:14):
understand what we're up against. And it could be difficult
because as we talked about, as Mike laid out, it's
all covered in layers of lies, layers of cover here,
in legal cover there. We just have to understand how
these communists infiltrate. Just remember that's the most important point,
the one I made in the beginning. They see themselves
(45:35):
as infiltrators, as revolutionaries and that's why they operate the
way they operate. We'll do it again.
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