September 30, 2025 • 46 mins
Jesse Kelly and Megyn Kelly discuss a big announcement and Democrat rhetoric. This comes as James Comey gets indicted by the Trump DOJ. Will he be above the law and is he the first of the other dominos to fall? Jesse catches up with Alex Swoyer about that as well. Plus, a tough conversation about Democrat rhetoric and Kathy Hochul gets BOOED at The Ryder Cup.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The violence is increasing, and we're going to talk about
maybe some things you need to do. Megan Kelly is
here to discuss that and so many other things. Alex
Sawyer is going to talk about the Supreme Court, the
case against James Comy, all that and more coming up.
And I'm right now, Okay, So I know you woke
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up to the same thing I woke up to on Sunday.
You woke up, maybe you were getting ready for church,
maybe you weren't, but you saw there had been a
Mormon church in Michigan that had been attacked and still
sorting out, sifting through the details on the why. But
the why is actually not what I want to talk
(00:50):
about tonight, not at least right now. In the opening,
we'll get to some why here in a moment. I
want to just go back to something I discussed with
you before. Remember when I said this back in lie
This is now going to increase from here, organized planned
street violence and the animals who commit this kind of
violence are going to move on from hard targets like
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bore attack and they're going to come to your church,
They're going to come to your child's school. They're going
to find soft targets where they can hurt the people
they want to hurt. They're not going to accept failure forever.
This is not to get you to hide or even
be afraid or stay in your home. This is to
let you know to keep your eyes open, carry if
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you can, and be ready to protect yourself because organized
street communism in this country is going to increase from here.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Cut.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
So before we get to the actual communism portion of this,
let's just focus on the nitty gritty. What matters to you,
what matters to me, the safety of our loved one,
safety of ourselves. You know what I've done in the
past week. I've done both these things. In the past week.
I sat down at my children's school and had a
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discussion with the leadership there about the security at the school.
Were all the school has security, all the little buzz
lock doors, armed police. But I looked around and I
thought to myself, if I was a suicidal demon who
wanted to hurt these kids, could I And the answer
(02:35):
to that question was yes. Remember it's something we've learned
after years and years and years of dealing with Islamic jihad.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
It's extremely, extremely.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Difficult to stop someone who is willing to die or
wants to die, extremely extremely difficult, And you have to
put yourself in that mindset when you look at your
child's school. If someone is willing to die in order
to kill these kids, can they get to these kids?
And most schools, for most schools, the answer to that
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question is yes. Now, I said I did a couple
things this past week. You know what I did yesterday
was actually during church, during the worship service. It's kind
of felt compelled, got up, walked out and just started
doing what we would know as a threat assessment. Walked
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out the front doors, looked around, took a look at
the security, took a look at the rent a cop
they have in the church.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
We'll get to that in a moment. Took a look
at the back door the nursery.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
If I was a suicidal demon and I wanted to
come kill a bunch of Christians on a Sunday in
my church, could I do it? And the answer was
easily easily? Why back doors sitting there unlocked?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Could have walked right in. Oh, but there's a cop
there in uniform. There sure was. There was a cop
there in uniform. You know what he was doing. I'm
not even kidding.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I actually stat there, stood there and watched him for
a few minutes, just to see.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
In fact, I walked back and forth. I'm six foot eight.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Is he going to look up? Is he going to
notice me? Is he going to register my face? He
was sitting at a table on his phone like a teenage.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Girl the whole time.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
If I was a demon, shoot I could have killed
him amendment and killed everybody else easily, easily. Have you
done this in your school, your church? It's fine If
you haven't, now's the time to do it. And once
you do it, demand better. I told my school children
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in school, look, we need more.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
This is not good enough. This is target.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Now we live sadly in a country where schools are
a target for demons. We have to try to protect
it as if it's a target. Same thing in your
house of worship, whatever that house may be. By the way,
this applies to the synagogues that if you have a
house of worship, well, the mosques are probably okay, but
that's another story. If you have a house of worship,
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are they doing enough? Put yourself in the mind of
a suicidal demon. Is your church a hard target? Or
is your church ripe for the picking, and don't say
what you may be saying right now. Even though I sympathize,
I don't want to live in that world, I get it.
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I don't want to live in that world. I thought
I was done having a look around for things like that.
That is the world in which we've been given. You
cannot wish it away, and neither can I start taking
steps to ensure or your soft targets, the soft targets
in your life are protected, because there are evil people everywhere. Now,
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let's talk about the communist aspect of this. We have
talked endlessly. It's been an endless discussion about elite communists
and street communists on this show. Elite communists generally are
not true believers. Sometimes they are. They're just out for
money and power. These are media people, politicians, and they
understand very well that they have foot soldiers, shock troops,
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street communists. Now the animals. The street communists generally are
true believers, almost always violent, mentally ill, sometimes drugged out,
and they have been radicalized over and over and over
again by the rhetoric from the elite communists. Elite communists
give orders, not necessarily direct orders. Hey you go, kill
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him like more like soft orders, more subtile orders if
you will. Hey, fascists are evil. Nazis are evil. That
guy he's a Nazi anyway, do with that what you will.
And so, in the wake of the murder of Charlie Kirk,
maybe you thought, maybe you thought that Democrats people in
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the media would stop the rhetoric, they would change the rhetoric.
But not only have they not stopped, they have increased.
This is courtesy of Western lensman. Why have they increased it?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Let me ask you tonight, do you think Donald Trump
is a fascist?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Yes? I do.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
This is what taking the kind of fascism looks like.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Try to prevent the spread of the lawlessness in the
fascist chaos that's been unleashed against us.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
So, when we say Donald Trump is a fascist, fascism,
a huge component of fascism is uniting racism, bigotry, a
form of racist nationalism.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
This is we are now living in a fascist dictator
ship country.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
We are worried about potential rise of fascism in this country.
We're worried about our democracy falling to an authoritarian and
potentially fascist form of government.
Speaker 8 (08:09):
Not only to roll over to Donald Trump's will, but
to roll over our democracy and allow him to take
over this country as a fascist dictator.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
When fascism isn't just coming, it's already here.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
The former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Mark
Millie said, no one has ever been more dangerous to
this country than Donald Trump, and he is a fascist
to his core.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Why because they want people hurd You can keep telling
a Democrat that your rhetoric is getting people hurt, but
they know that's why they do it. You are a
good person, so you can't understand why they wouldn't stop.
Why won't you change it? Their political enemies are being hurt.
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They don't want it to stop. They're not going to stop.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Did you know a.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Health and Human Services official was followed at the United Nations.
They were at the United Nations, followed into the bathroom
and assaulted by a street animal.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
You know what. The street animal was.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Calling them Nazi fascist. This is the result and they're
not backing away. Gavin Newsom is currently the likely Democrat
nominee for president in the year twenty twenty eight. Gavin
Newsom's social media account quote this is after the assassination
Stephen Miller is a fascist they.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Want you hurt. It's hard to accept.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
And the result of this is the animal communist base
has come to accept, in fact, has come to desire
their political opponents harmed.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
You see this video. I don't want to be a
person in this case.
Speaker 9 (10:01):
I feel like that we just.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Need too.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
I had to say the word, but assassinate him.
Speaker 10 (10:10):
What was your reaction this July when the assassin almost
got Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania. Happy, happy that he missed,
or happy that it happened.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
Happened, I'm too bad that it wasn't in the he What.
Speaker 10 (10:23):
Was your reaction in July when an assassin came an
inch away from ending Trump.
Speaker 11 (10:30):
Disappointment that they didn't follow through.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
They they missed.
Speaker 11 (10:36):
Yeah, I thought, oh my god, it could have been
wonderful if he'd have been shot. I can sum it
up in one word.
Speaker 10 (10:50):
Drat that it happened, or drat that it missed, draft
that it missed.
Speaker 12 (10:54):
I won't lie.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
I do not support violence anyway. I think I'm gonna
let you finished.
Speaker 11 (11:03):
I'm so shy and reserve. My thought was, if he'd
had a good scope instead of the red dot, we
would not be going through this. I can see them
can't to be a hero.
Speaker 8 (11:18):
How was acting dutis for?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
That's why they do it, the endless rhetoric. And remember
this is not recent ten years of Trump's Snazi, you're
a Nazi. Trump Snazi, You're a Nazi. Trump's Snazi, You're
a Nazi. Ten years. What it has done is my
buddy arn McIntyre called it a moral blank check, and
he's so right about that. It was a great line.
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It is given these people. It's given the street animals
a moral blank check to do whatever they want. Because,
as we've discussed so many times before, what.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Can't you do to a not see?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
If I had Hitler back alive, sitting in a room
just you and Hitler and he's handcuffed, and you knew
legally you couldn't get in trouble, and I had knives
and hammers and guns and scissors sitting in front of.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
You, what would you do? What would your moral code
allow you to do? To Hitler?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
This is exactly how they think about you, your church,
your child's school, your political leaders in the media, and
the elected officials. This is the situation we have now.
It's an extraordinarily dangerous situation and we're going to talk
to Megan Kelly about it now joining me now host
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of The Wonderful Megan Kelly Show, which is bigger than
it's ever been, no surprise, and she's I've heard rumors
that there's a little old tour coming up, which we'll
get to in a moment, The Wonderful Megan Kelly. Megan,
And before we get to this, I'm sure very small,
not very popular tour you have coming street violence. I
know you've been hot on this and I'm glad you
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have been. It's very clear that they're not going to
change this rhetoric fascist, nazi because they want bad things
to happen. How am I supposed to interpret it in
any other way, Megan.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
You're not. You know, it's the old when people show
you who they are, believe them the first time would
have been ideal, But no, they clearly don't want it
to stop.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Ladist polls show thirty four percent of college students think
it's okay to use violence against somebody who has the
wrong ideas or says the wrong things, and this is
an outgrowth of that. Those people grow up and then
they go out on the streets and they join Antifa
and then they're saying like f ice pigs and actually
assaulting them or fire bombing them. So President Trump has
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no choice but to deploy the National Guard to protect
our ICE agents who are doing the noble thing trying
to clean up Joe Biden's mess. Not a thing is
happening on the streets right now that doesn't directly start
with him. He created the mess. President Trump is trying
to fix it. He's trying to keep people safe. He's
started with the worst first. So the ones he's going
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after in these communities tend to be people who are
not only here illegally, but who have committed additional crimes,
whether it's three times drunk driving or felons, you know,
violent crimes. Why would we want to be protecting them.
Why would Portland, Oregon want those people to stay in
their community. So he's got to just put the gas
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pedal down, and now we have to get serious about
going after the groups that encourage this, whether it's Antifa
or it's trans Tifa, or whoever is online encouraging and
fomenting the violence. Because we're not going to be the
left and claim that speech is violence, but actual participation
and planning in crimes that actually then take cur take
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place is a crime, and you can go after people
for that.
Speaker 12 (14:57):
So we need to.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Megan, you're much better on legal stuff well and a
lot of things than I am. So rico, taking apart
gigantic criminal organizations is very difficult and it's very complicated
that much. I very much do know as a mafia
fan who studied all these things. Do we have the
people it takes to take apart these organizations, not just
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not just arresting some Antifa purple haired freak on the streets,
but the funders the organizations, because these organizations have been
set up to have all these legal firewalls. Does Pam
Bondi in the Justice Department do we have the horses
to make this run.
Speaker 12 (15:39):
I don't know the answer to that. I hope the
answers yes.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
If you're talking about somebody like a George Soros, he's
going to be so well insulated that it's going to
be very hard to get him. But there may be
smaller players that you could start with, and to be honest,
you might only need to go after a couple to
make an example out of them before some of the
lesser players disband or even the George Soros or Alex Souris'
of the world back off of some of this so
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called organizing that they want you to believe that's all
it is that they do. Like the Trantifa group is
a good example, like these online transactivists who have been communicating,
we believe about things, possibly even including the Charlie Kirk murder.
That's one of the things that I know they're looking into.
And listen, I don't know exactly what they're going to find,
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but I did hear from a well placed source that
they believe that that's actually going to pan out, that
there was some sort of organization before this and there
was some coordination.
Speaker 12 (16:34):
Now that's only one source. I don't have a double sourced.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
But my point is simply, if they can start with
a group like that that was online coordinating and celebrating
and potentially even helping and plan an event like that,
and then you are completely merciless with them, I mean,
that could really send the right message. It's tough, though,
as we saw with the Trump law fair you know, rightfully,
so it's tough to bring RICO cases against anyone other
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than the classic people for whom that law was designed.
Which are mobsters, but there are things like conspiracy. You know,
if you've got conspiracy to commit arson, to commit murder,
conspiracy to trespass, it might not be like the most
severe crime in the world. But if you have conspiracy
of two actors conspiring about a crime and then one
takes an affirmative act, you got conspiracy, criminal conspiracy, and
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you could start with those crimes. It doesn't all have
to be the mega level RICO in order to start
making these people pay up penalty for what they do.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Megan, you know, we'll come back to the street animals
in a few because this actually ties directly into one
of the reasons I brought you on Charlie Kirk's assassination. Now,
before Charlie Kirk was assassinated, you had started to organize
a media tour, a talking tour. I guess where you're
going out. You're meeting people, You're standing in front of people,
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and you have chosen not to cancel that. Megan, you
are fairly high profile, aren't you afraid.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I'm not afraid. I'm really not. Like my concerns about
safety definitely went up. I mean, I'm not an idiot,
but that can all be managed, you know, so we
had to spend more money than we were budgeting on security.
That's fine, That's the least I owe my guests like you,
Jesse Kelly, and my audience.
Speaker 12 (18:17):
My audience too, is going to want to be They're
signing up in droves.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
I didn't know whether the audience would still want to
come out, because you know, they got to be thinking
about it too. The ticket sales went up, not down,
because people are feeling what I think you're feeling and
what I'm feeling, which is now it's even more important
that we get out now.
Speaker 12 (18:36):
Now we have to go now.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
It's like now we have no choice but to do
every single tour stop and to do it boldly and unapologetically,
and to say all the things, and to not cower
even a little. Or they've won and they'll do more
of it. Like the only way of stopping it is
to show them we are not cowed, we are not silent.
In fact, we're going to be louder than ever and honestly,
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to go to the absolute worst place, Jesse, I don't
think anything will happen to me, but God forbid it did,
then I would be depending on you and all of
our other friends in conservative media to take the message
tenfold beyond where it was when I was saying it,
like we just that is the only solution to this problem.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Megan, I love to hear it. I love that attitude,
and you're right, it's wild to me. We have Turning
Point USA chapters popping up everywhere. Church attendants up twenty
five percent since this thing, Like you mentioned your tour.
My phone is melting ever since you announced your tour. Hey, Jesse,
could it get me?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
And get it is?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
It's the opposite of what I probably would have expected,
and it's so so inspiring to watch. Are they afraid?
Is this why the violence is happening? There's this why
there's a clear uptick in violence. Do they feel like
they're losing?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I think it's a combination of things. I do think
they're afraid, for sure. I mean certain groups in particular
are losing, and that's obvious.
Speaker 12 (20:03):
But I also, like I do think there's a.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Problem with how we chased faith out of our lives
and people are feeling empty inside and they replaced it
with wokeism, and now wocism is being killed bit by
bit for just cause, and so they're in a bit
of a downward spiral and a panic that they have nothing,
and some faction of them will get on board and
return to church the way many disaffected on people on
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the right are in the wake of Charlie's death, and
others will turn to darker forces. And I don't know,
I've just been thinking lately, I'm not that religious, Jesse.
I'm certainly not as religious as Charlie was, and I
don't know scripture the way Charlie did.
Speaker 12 (20:40):
But I can't help help but think there's some level of.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Like demonic inspiration happening over on the other side, like
it started, didn't start, but for me, like the most
recent and obvious example was the murder of those children
at Ascension School in Minneapolis, where they were praying in
the church. Little kids got killed by somebody who when
his drawing showed that he looked in the mirror and
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he saw a demon. He was doing target practice on
Jesus's faith. And then you see Charlie Kirk, like an
evangelist of the truest kind, gunned down in the prime
of his life with a wife and two children at home.
And then you see this guy you know in Michigan
attack Christians, Mormons worshiping in a church and setting them
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on fire. I don't like, I don't want to ignore
like this satanic behavior happening before my very eyes. I've
been wearing my cross more and more because I just
you have to acknowledge when there's evil right in front
of you. And I feel like we invited it. Not
you and I, but we as a society have been
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inviting it by rejecting God, by rejecting scripture, by rejecting,
you know, living in accordance with true faith and what
God wants of us. And now the fruits of that
are being seen everywhere. So now I think that's part
of the reason we're seeing this revival in people going
back to church.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Megan, last question here before we get to your tour
wrap up. What can the Democrat Party change? It seems like,
and I've been talking about this a lot, that they have,
you know, doctor Frankenstein created his monster, all these rabbit
animals now and now, even if they wanted to, even
if they know they should moderate on this or stop
with the crazy on that, it seems like they're kind
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of trapped and can't change. I don't ever want to
say anything is beyond saving. But doesn't it feel like
they're trapped.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yes, they need to break up the Democratic Party and
the same way. We just saw that announcement on X
last week that the LGP LGB is breaking up with
the TQ like they've had it, So this new group
is formed, that's just LGB.
Speaker 12 (22:50):
They're like, why don't we have to be stuck with
those people? That's not our thing.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
The same thing needs to happen within the Democrat Party.
You need like old school liberals who are not and
just want like abortion, to break up with the lunatics
who think it's okay to kill people for bad speech,
and it's okay to cut off healthy body parts on children,
and it's okay to divide everybody by race and tell
little black kids that they are less than and that
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they're never gonna overcome it, and little white kids that
they've got original sin and they'll never overcome that. These
people are lunes who send all the men into the
women's prisons and let them have at the women.
Speaker 12 (23:24):
No, you're locked up, just suck.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
It up, deal with it, like they must have a
breakup otherwise they're never gonna win, Like, how can the
normy Dems, and there are some normy Dems out there,
like Bill Maher. He's not woke, he's a Democrat, he's
not a Republican. He needs to find his tribe and
convince them to start something new. And there's probably enough
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disaffected Republicans like never Trump Republicans who they could bond with.
But we're gonna have to move to a different kind
of system than the two party because if I were demned,
that's what I'd be saying. Because they'll never win again.
They cannot get this coalition together. Woke left flank is
going full communist, as you know, with Zoran, Mom, Donnie
and some others running across country now they're they're not
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They've drifted so far they're not coming back. So I
don't know what they do other than acknowledge that reality
and get better organized to deal with it.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Meghan, if I would like to come see Meghan Kelly
in person, and I have had the privilege, how do
I go about going to this tour?
Speaker 12 (24:28):
Well, we've made it super easy.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
You just go to Meghankelly dot com and you can
buy the tickets there and you can also sign up
if you're so interested in getting like a behind the
scenes meet and greet. You could meet me, Jesse Kelly
and Donald Trump Junior.
Speaker 12 (24:44):
Hello, who wouldn't want to do that? Just go to
Megan Kelly dot com.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
You can buy the tickets and then you can do
the meet and greet if you sign up for that too.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Appreciate you very much. I will see you in a
few weeks in sugar nd.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
All.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Right, James, comey got in Dieted. We're going to talk
about why that's very important. It's very good. It's fraught
with danger. The journey is to make it sound like
an old novel. But we'll discuss that. Speaking of danger,
there's danger in your children opening up your mail.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
You want to know what happened to me. I got
a box. Occasionally people will send things to the house.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I got a box, big cardboard box and big, I say,
and I might work.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Obviously.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Kids get home from school, they see a box with
my name on it. They think, oh, there might be
some kind of goodies in here, because sometimes people send
me cool things. They bust open the box and what
do they find An entire box of Massa chips, not
the corn chips, which you know. I'm obsessed with. You
know Massa has all these potato chips, not all these
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cancer causing filth ingredients.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Either.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Potato chips you can eat without the guild. Even my
health freak wife eats their chips where they have all
these different potato chip flavors like smoke cows and one
tastes like Italian dressing. Freaking amazing. By the time I
got home, there was one bag left. I think I
started out with eight. They just took them and hit
them in their room.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Massive Chips. It's caused a war in my house.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
You want a huge discount, you want to try some
Massa chips, Massive Chips, dot com slash Jesse TV.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
We'll be bad.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Okay, let's talk briefly about the James Comy case, the
James Comy indictment. First, I have been calling for the
same thing you've been calling for for a long time.
We have to start sending government people to prison. The
people in power who abuse their power have to go
to prison the same way you would go to prison,
the same way I would go to prison. We can
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no longer have this system them where communists scumbags in
the government get off scot free every single time.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
We don't even have a country.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
If that's what we're going to deal with here, So
government people have to go to prison. Well, walking backwards
from there, how do we send them to prison? Well,
we have to put them on trial. Well, how do
we get them on trial? We have to indict them.
So that's all good stuff. James Comy famously got indicted
for I don't know things like this courtesy Amaye more Rector.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Comy, have you ever been an anonymous source in news
reports about matters relating to the Trump investigation or the
Clinton investigation?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Never have you.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an
anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation or
the Clinton investigation.
Speaker 13 (27:49):
Now, I needed to get that out into the public square,
and so I asked a friend of mine to share
the content of the memo with a reporter. Didn't do
it myself for a variety of reasons by asking him too,
because I thought that might prompt the appointment of a
special counsel.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
As bad And you know, credit to Chuck Grassley, he
very obviously knew the answer to the question when he
asked the question, essentially walking James Comy into a trap
where he perjured himself. And that's one of the things
he's been indicted for. I've been told there will be.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
More, but we'll set that aside for a moment. All
this is very very very good.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Okay, this is good, and the process can be the punishment.
James Comy will probably get Communists help funding his legal fees.
But no matter what, it's going to be a very stressful,
probably very expensive time in the near future for James
Comy as that dirt ball has to defend himself for
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the crimes he committed. This is also a very very
good thing, but we have to win these cases. Just
an indictment, just a trial is not enough as of
right now, and from my understanding this could change.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
As of right now, he's.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Going to be tried in Virginia, the portion of Virginia
that's only slightly to the right of North Korea. How
many Democrats on that jury are going to vote guilty
when James Comy comes up? How many the Justice Department itself.
You realize that James Comy is not going to have
your attorney or my attorney. He's going to have two
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thousand dollars an hour amazing defense attorneys. The Justice Department
is going to have to go up against them and win.
Do we have the people? Do we have the horses
for that? I talked to Megan Kelly about that in
the opening of the show. I don't know. It was
pretty much what she said, and I don't know either.
I am happy. I don't want to pooh pooh something great.
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I am happy the indictment happened. I am We got
to follow through, we got to go all the way.
We have to win this. It can't just be a
sho That's my only point. All right, we'll talk to
Alex Sawyer about some legal matters, including the Komi stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
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We'll be back.
Speaker 7 (31:21):
So a lot of people have suggested that there are
a range of factors that would make it difficult to
put a former there's not The system has not been
tested in this way.
Speaker 12 (31:28):
Do you agree with that that it would be.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
Difficult or nearly impossible for the law enforcement institutions to
put him in actual jail.
Speaker 13 (31:35):
No, he would just put him in a double wide
somewhere out near the fence, out in the grass, and
he would eat there, he'd shower there, he'd exercise there,
he'd be away, as Donia Perry said, from general population.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
But it's obviously doable.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Wow, that sounds like a wonderful, wonderful arrangement would probably
apply to anyone else who might be going to prison
from the government joining me now. Alex Sawyer, author of
the book Lawless, Law Fair, which is wildly, wildly and
appropriate book for where we are right now, well, Alex,
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the tables appeared with turn.
Speaker 9 (32:12):
Yes, the tables have definitely turned.
Speaker 14 (32:15):
I know President Trump and his supporters have been waiting
for this moment for quite some time. In the first
couple of chapters of my book, I actually write about Russiagate,
and it seems like ten years later this has come
full circle. One of the major issues with Comey's indictment,
which I think is at least somewhat beneficial to President
(32:36):
Trump and his supporters, is that this came in the
Eastern District of Virginia instead of Washington d C.
Speaker 9 (32:43):
We know the DC court system is extremely blue.
Speaker 14 (32:46):
Eastern District of Virginia is also very blue, but it has.
Speaker 9 (32:49):
A little bit more read and a little.
Speaker 14 (32:51):
Bit less of a dynamic between Democratic appointed judges versus
Republican appointed judges. I think the first appearance is going
to be in and of a Biden appointee, so obviously
judges matter who appointed them and how they might handle
the case going forward. One last thing about the venue
is that it's kind of referred to as a rocket docket,
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meaning cases move really fast in the Eastern District of
Virginia compared to other courts.
Speaker 9 (33:18):
You know.
Speaker 14 (33:18):
So it doesn't look like Comy would be able to
run out the clock in hopes of a different DOJ
coming in anytime soon before he might have to stand trial.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Okay, Alex, can you give me some nitty gritty on
the case itself. I don't need any help hating James Comy,
I've hated him for a very long time. But as
far as the actual evidence against him, you don't have
to tell me what I want to hear. Is it
pretty black and white he did it, He's guilty.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Is there a lot of gray area? It's going to
depend on this or that. But what kind of case
do we have?
Speaker 14 (33:51):
Yeah, so right now you have James Comy's word that he,
you know, basically that he didn't leak against at least
two other witnesses that we know of that say yes,
in fact, you did. So we know Andrew McCabe, who
worked under Comy, said that he was Comy had authorized leaks. Okay,
So that's one. Two was that his longtime law professor friend,
(34:12):
Daniel Richmond, he was from Columbia Law School, if you remember,
and it was admitted that Comy would share notes with
him all that sort of thing.
Speaker 9 (34:20):
Well, he has.
Speaker 14 (34:21):
It's been reported that he told this law professor, told
federal law enforcement that he would leak on behalf of COMY,
basically talked to the press for COMY and make you know,
the FBI seem in more positive light. One of the reports,
I think it might be from just the News, had
noted actually that Richmond said that he was given highly
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classified information from COMY. So to me, I also wondered
if that might be another charge. The Feds were looking
at the leaking not just of information, but the idea
that COMY shared classified information with someone who might not
have been authorized to have that. But I think that
would be pretty big that would fall under the Espionage Act.
(35:03):
There's not necessarily a statue of limitations for that, so
you know, I've kind have been one to wonder if
more charges might be coming as well.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Fingers crossed for that.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I am greatly enjoying the media, who was boy, they
just had the vapors about putting Donald Trump away. Now
having to try to explain how this is a disaster.
May is more put together this little montage of Andrew Weisman.
Speaker 15 (35:27):
He is being treated no better or worse than anyone else.
This is not selective prosecution. That this is not somebody
who singled out, that he is being treated just like
anyone else. That is what it means to have a
rule of law. That is what the Justice Department is
really singling and messaging here is that everyone will be treated,
(35:49):
as Merrik Garland has said, as you know, equally in
this country. This is really a really a great day
for America.
Speaker 16 (35:57):
This is such a horrendous moment for the rule of law,
for the Department of Justice, for the country. We're at
large being singled out for impermissible reasons, and so just
because you did your job, but just because you referred
the president or you opened an investigation into the president,
(36:19):
those are not legitimate reasons to have a sort of
tit for tat vindictive prosecution. This looks like it the
Emperor has no clothes. That is this is the abuse
that it appears to be.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Alex These people really do think the Justice Department should
just work for them, right. They're pretty obvious about it.
Speaker 14 (36:40):
Yeah, you know, I find it kind of surprising, to
be honest, because there's a lot of Democrats that I
guess might have short memory. They weren't a big fan
of Komi either back when it was October I think
of twenty sixteen when he came out and basically made
this announcement about Hillary Clinton, how her handling of emails
(37:00):
or the private email server, how it was very negligent.
Essentially is what he said. But he wouldn't go as
far as to say that there needed to be criminal charges.
Speaker 9 (37:07):
In fact, he said there.
Speaker 14 (37:08):
Shouldn't be, which was a whole issue Republicans had at
the time. He overstepped. That wasn't even his realm to
do that. That should have been the Justice Department, but
he took it upon himself, and Democrats weren't happy at
the time. They said that that was largely an October
surprise that hurt Hillary Clinton in the twenty sixteen election
against Donald Trump.
Speaker 9 (37:27):
Now it looks like they're coming to.
Speaker 14 (37:28):
His defense simply because you know, he's the first I guess,
you could say a critic of the president that's been indicted.
Speaker 9 (37:35):
More to come.
Speaker 14 (37:36):
I'm guessing given what we've heard from some of the
Trump administration officials, I've wondered if we're going to see
any more rico allegations kind of a conspiracy that's been
hinted upon from I think it was Tulci Gabbard early on,
maybe James Clapper, others that were involved in this initial
you know, twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen probe into the twenty
sixteen Trump campaign with the whole Russia allegations. You know,
(38:00):
more to come, I'm sure, but yeah, I think Democrats
have short memory, Alex.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
What about Christopher Ray cash Bettel's going on Fox News
essentially saying he lied to Congress. I don't know what
kind of immunity you have as the former head of
the FBI. In my opinion, there shouldn't be any. But
that's another story entirely. Is there a chance we see
that scumbag.
Speaker 9 (38:21):
Burn Well, I would say there's no immunity.
Speaker 14 (38:25):
I mean, look at what's happened with James Comy, right,
He's facing charges, and so if it was true that
Ray lied while under oath, he would be able to
face the similar charges. However, I'm not sure if the
first of all the evidence or the statement would be
as clear cut as what we have with Komy. I
(38:46):
wanted I actually wrote down one of the quotes. I
think it was Ray told the House Committee, if you
were asking if the violence at the Capitol was part
of some operation orchestrated by FBI sources or agents.
Speaker 9 (38:57):
The answer is no.
Speaker 14 (38:59):
And it does seem like Patel has come out and
said there weren't agents at the actual speech where President
Trump spoke, They didn't go from there to the Capitol
instigate any violence. That they were sent out actually after
the rioting already began. So I think he kind of
played with words a little bit of a DC answer,
which you know, he was very much I'm sure trained
(39:19):
and experienced to give. So I'm not sure would be
as clear cut as a case that we have with Komy,
but it does big questions about if these reports are
accurate that two hundred and seventy four, If the I
agents were sent to the Capitol on January sixth carrying
a firearm but in plain clothing and not marked as agents,
you know, what was What's.
Speaker 9 (39:39):
The reason for that? Why would they even do that?
Speaker 14 (39:41):
I think it would even present a safety concern for
the agents, as we know other law enforcement agencies were
around and responding at the time. So yeah, I definitely
think there's more more investigation that needs to happen. More
answers need to come forward, But I don't know if
Ray's answer was as clear cut as what we've had
and what we've seen.
Speaker 11 (39:56):
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Speaker 2 (39:58):
Alex.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Let's talk about this Supreme Court. Trump is calling on
them to review birthright citizenship, which obviously is a disgrace.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
But how does this work.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Can the President just say to the Supreme Court, Hey,
you need to hear this, and will they hear it?
And if they do hear it, how are they going
to decide?
Speaker 5 (40:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 14 (40:15):
Okay, So, first of all, basically what happens on these
cert petitions is the Trump administration goes to the Supreme
Court and asks them to review lower court rulings against them.
And so here this is on the birthright citizenship issue,
and what it comes down to is the Fourteenth Amendment.
And basically President Trump has argued that it well, first
(40:36):
of all, should start with the Fourteenth Amendment. It reads,
all persons born are naturalized in the United States and
subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United
States and of the state wherein they reside. So President
Trump has argued that those born here from illegals are
not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. In fact,
they're subject to the country from which their parents come from.
(40:57):
So that's their argument. Now critics say that there's precedent
from decades ago. I can't even remember I wrote down
the case, but basically I think it's Wong King Kim
arc that case. And Justice Sotomayora cited this in an
earlier dissent, basically saying that it did attest to those
who are are on the US soil are guaranteed you know,
(41:18):
rights and citizenship under our constitution. Basically that it's a
fundamental rule of citizenship guaranteed by the four fourteenth Amendment,
is what Justice Sodomira said. So one, we already kind
of have an idea of where she's going to fall,
not that we were, you know, thinking she would be
for President Trump at all. But what would happen for
this case to get arguments scheduled would be at least
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four justices would have to vote in favor of hearing it.
We won't know who they are. I wouldn't be surprised
if we do get the justices to get take this up,
because if you remember, right at the end of last term,
they took it up, but on the issue of nationwide injunctions.
So they first decided We're going to look at this
and see some of these lower court judges that are
issuing these not national blockades on President Trump's policies, whether
(42:03):
they've overstepped their authority.
Speaker 9 (42:05):
To do so.
Speaker 14 (42:06):
And they decided that and they basically set an order
for nationwide injunctions to be issued. There should be a
class action or state should be the plaintiffs.
Speaker 9 (42:13):
That sort of thing. Judges have kind of found ways
around that.
Speaker 14 (42:15):
They are moving quickly to certify classes in order to
block the president agenda.
Speaker 9 (42:21):
So I'm not sure that rule and the.
Speaker 14 (42:22):
Actually had as big of an impact as we had
initially thought. But given that this case is now back
on the merits on the actual Fourteenth Amendment issue, I
wouldn't be surprised if the Court took it.
Speaker 9 (42:32):
Now.
Speaker 14 (42:32):
Lower courts have ruled pretty much universally against President Trump
and said no because of that President that I cited
earlier from Justice Sotomayor that you know, they've said no,
President Trump's take on the fourteenth Amendment is incorrect. And
so because all lower courts haven't conflicted, right, they've all
ruled one way, that gives the justices reason to kind
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of wait and see if there's a court out there
that rules for the president. They like to take cases
where lower courts have ruled differently to kind of set
a state.
Speaker 9 (43:00):
So we will find out.
Speaker 14 (43:02):
It could be weeks from now when we know if
it's gonna get scheduled for oral arguments. But yes, we
won't really know what justice is voted to hear it,
but at least four.
Speaker 9 (43:11):
Would have to do so.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Alex As always appreciate you come back, So all right,
we have light in the mood. Next, Kathy Hogel went
to the Ryder Cup, and she shouldn't have gone to
the Ryder Cup, but she did because she's an idiot
and doesn't understand how.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Normal people think.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Before we get to Kathy Hogel, why do you have Horizon?
Why do you have AT and T R T Mobile?
And I understand you're gonna have a cell phone. I
have a cell phone. We're gonna have cell phones. I
get it. But you don't have to support with your
money these gigantic cell phone companies who hate you, who
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Speaker 2 (44:33):
We'll be back. All right, it's time to lighten the mood.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
We do love making fun of Democrats, and we especially
love how if you spend enough time in Democrat politics
as a Democrat politician, you tend to lose the ability
to be human. And it happens for this reason. It's
a bubble. The communist ecosystem is complete bubble. So if
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you only hang out with other Democrats, you only work
with other Democrats. When you're turning on the television or
the radio, you're only listening to other Democrats. You're getting
all kinds of reinforcement on what you believe. But what's
happening is you are slowly but surely losing your ability
to relate to other human beings, and so you try
to do things that normal people do so you can
(45:30):
appear normal.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
But it doesn't work.
Speaker 9 (45:33):
Like you.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Remember when Chuck Schumer posted up that picture, I forget
what the holiday was, July fourth, Labor Day. I don't
remember of him cooking burgers. Only the burgers were raw
on the grill and he already had the cheese on there.
It never even occurred to Chuck Schumer that that's not
how you cook a burger. He's just such a lizard
person and went by him. New York Governor Kathy Kokel
went to the Ryder Cup, and here's how.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
It went on for New York.
Speaker 17 (45:56):
Your friend and mine in attendance, Governor Kathy Hokel, thank
you so much for being here, and thank you to
your team too for getting us ready for the Ryder
Cup in New York.
Speaker 12 (46:10):
I would like to say a few thank yous to
Governor State New.
Speaker 15 (46:14):
York, Kathy Hokel, as we prepare to tee it up
on Friday, I want to thank the people who made
this journey possible. To Governor Hokel, to the teams of
New York.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Why would you show up there and be introduced ah
I seeable
The violence is increasing, and we're going to talk about
maybe some things you need to do. Megan Kelly is
here to discuss that and so many other things. Alex
Sawyer is going to talk about the Supreme Court, the
case against James Comy, all that and more coming up.
And I'm right now, Okay, So I know you woke
(00:30):
up to the same thing I woke up to on Sunday.
You woke up, maybe you were getting ready for church,
maybe you weren't, but you saw there had been a
Mormon church in Michigan that had been attacked and still
sorting out, sifting through the details on the why. But
the why is actually not what I want to talk
(00:50):
about tonight, not at least right now. In the opening,
we'll get to some why here in a moment. I
want to just go back to something I discussed with
you before. Remember when I said this back in lie
This is now going to increase from here, organized planned
street violence and the animals who commit this kind of
violence are going to move on from hard targets like
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bore attack and they're going to come to your church,
They're going to come to your child's school. They're going
to find soft targets where they can hurt the people
they want to hurt. They're not going to accept failure forever.
This is not to get you to hide or even
be afraid or stay in your home. This is to
let you know to keep your eyes open, carry if
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you can, and be ready to protect yourself because organized
street communism in this country is going to increase from here.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Cut.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
So before we get to the actual communism portion of this,
let's just focus on the nitty gritty. What matters to you,
what matters to me, the safety of our loved one,
safety of ourselves. You know what I've done in the
past week. I've done both these things. In the past week.
I sat down at my children's school and had a
(02:12):
discussion with the leadership there about the security at the school.
Were all the school has security, all the little buzz
lock doors, armed police. But I looked around and I
thought to myself, if I was a suicidal demon who
wanted to hurt these kids, could I And the answer
(02:35):
to that question was yes. Remember it's something we've learned
after years and years and years of dealing with Islamic jihad.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
It's extremely, extremely.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Difficult to stop someone who is willing to die or
wants to die, extremely extremely difficult, And you have to
put yourself in that mindset when you look at your
child's school. If someone is willing to die in order
to kill these kids, can they get to these kids?
And most schools, for most schools, the answer to that
(03:10):
question is yes. Now, I said I did a couple
things this past week. You know what I did yesterday
was actually during church, during the worship service. It's kind
of felt compelled, got up, walked out and just started
doing what we would know as a threat assessment. Walked
(03:31):
out the front doors, looked around, took a look at
the security, took a look at the rent a cop
they have in the church.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
We'll get to that in a moment. Took a look
at the back door the nursery.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
If I was a suicidal demon and I wanted to
come kill a bunch of Christians on a Sunday in
my church, could I do it? And the answer was
easily easily? Why back doors sitting there unlocked?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Could have walked right in. Oh, but there's a cop
there in uniform. There sure was. There was a cop
there in uniform. You know what he was doing. I'm
not even kidding.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I actually stat there, stood there and watched him for
a few minutes, just to see.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
In fact, I walked back and forth. I'm six foot eight.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Is he going to look up? Is he going to
notice me? Is he going to register my face? He
was sitting at a table on his phone like a teenage.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Girl the whole time.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
If I was a demon, shoot I could have killed
him amendment and killed everybody else easily, easily. Have you
done this in your school, your church? It's fine If
you haven't, now's the time to do it. And once
you do it, demand better. I told my school children
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in school, look, we need more.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
This is not good enough. This is target.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Now we live sadly in a country where schools are
a target for demons. We have to try to protect
it as if it's a target. Same thing in your
house of worship, whatever that house may be. By the way,
this applies to the synagogues that if you have a
house of worship, well, the mosques are probably okay, but
that's another story. If you have a house of worship,
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are they doing enough? Put yourself in the mind of
a suicidal demon. Is your church a hard target? Or
is your church ripe for the picking, and don't say
what you may be saying right now. Even though I sympathize,
I don't want to live in that world, I get it.
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I don't want to live in that world. I thought
I was done having a look around for things like that.
That is the world in which we've been given. You
cannot wish it away, and neither can I start taking
steps to ensure or your soft targets, the soft targets
in your life are protected, because there are evil people everywhere. Now,
(06:07):
let's talk about the communist aspect of this. We have
talked endlessly. It's been an endless discussion about elite communists
and street communists on this show. Elite communists generally are
not true believers. Sometimes they are. They're just out for
money and power. These are media people, politicians, and they
understand very well that they have foot soldiers, shock troops,
(06:31):
street communists. Now the animals. The street communists generally are
true believers, almost always violent, mentally ill, sometimes drugged out,
and they have been radicalized over and over and over
again by the rhetoric from the elite communists. Elite communists
give orders, not necessarily direct orders. Hey you go, kill
(06:52):
him like more like soft orders, more subtile orders if
you will. Hey, fascists are evil. Nazis are evil. That
guy he's a Nazi anyway, do with that what you will.
And so, in the wake of the murder of Charlie Kirk,
maybe you thought, maybe you thought that Democrats people in
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the media would stop the rhetoric, they would change the rhetoric.
But not only have they not stopped, they have increased.
This is courtesy of Western lensman. Why have they increased it?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Let me ask you tonight, do you think Donald Trump
is a fascist?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Yes? I do.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
This is what taking the kind of fascism looks like.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Try to prevent the spread of the lawlessness in the
fascist chaos that's been unleashed against us.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
So, when we say Donald Trump is a fascist, fascism,
a huge component of fascism is uniting racism, bigotry, a
form of racist nationalism.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
This is we are now living in a fascist dictator
ship country.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
We are worried about potential rise of fascism in this country.
We're worried about our democracy falling to an authoritarian and
potentially fascist form of government.
Speaker 8 (08:09):
Not only to roll over to Donald Trump's will, but
to roll over our democracy and allow him to take
over this country as a fascist dictator.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
When fascism isn't just coming, it's already here.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
The former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Mark
Millie said, no one has ever been more dangerous to
this country than Donald Trump, and he is a fascist
to his core.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Why because they want people hurd You can keep telling
a Democrat that your rhetoric is getting people hurt, but
they know that's why they do it. You are a
good person, so you can't understand why they wouldn't stop.
Why won't you change it? Their political enemies are being hurt.
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They don't want it to stop. They're not going to stop.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Did you know a.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Health and Human Services official was followed at the United Nations.
They were at the United Nations, followed into the bathroom
and assaulted by a street animal.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
You know what. The street animal was.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Calling them Nazi fascist. This is the result and they're
not backing away. Gavin Newsom is currently the likely Democrat
nominee for president in the year twenty twenty eight. Gavin
Newsom's social media account quote this is after the assassination
Stephen Miller is a fascist they.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Want you hurt. It's hard to accept.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
And the result of this is the animal communist base
has come to accept, in fact, has come to desire
their political opponents harmed.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
You see this video. I don't want to be a
person in this case.
Speaker 9 (10:01):
I feel like that we just.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Need too.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
I had to say the word, but assassinate him.
Speaker 10 (10:10):
What was your reaction this July when the assassin almost
got Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania. Happy, happy that he missed,
or happy that it happened.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
Happened, I'm too bad that it wasn't in the he What.
Speaker 10 (10:23):
Was your reaction in July when an assassin came an
inch away from ending Trump.
Speaker 11 (10:30):
Disappointment that they didn't follow through.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
They they missed.
Speaker 11 (10:36):
Yeah, I thought, oh my god, it could have been
wonderful if he'd have been shot. I can sum it
up in one word.
Speaker 10 (10:50):
Drat that it happened, or drat that it missed, draft
that it missed.
Speaker 12 (10:54):
I won't lie.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
I do not support violence anyway. I think I'm gonna
let you finished.
Speaker 11 (11:03):
I'm so shy and reserve. My thought was, if he'd
had a good scope instead of the red dot, we
would not be going through this. I can see them
can't to be a hero.
Speaker 8 (11:18):
How was acting dutis for?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
That's why they do it, the endless rhetoric. And remember
this is not recent ten years of Trump's Snazi, you're
a Nazi. Trump Snazi, You're a Nazi. Trump's Snazi, You're
a Nazi. Ten years. What it has done is my
buddy arn McIntyre called it a moral blank check, and
he's so right about that. It was a great line.
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It is given these people. It's given the street animals
a moral blank check to do whatever they want. Because,
as we've discussed so many times before, what.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Can't you do to a not see?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
If I had Hitler back alive, sitting in a room
just you and Hitler and he's handcuffed, and you knew
legally you couldn't get in trouble, and I had knives
and hammers and guns and scissors sitting in front of.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
You, what would you do? What would your moral code
allow you to do? To Hitler?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
This is exactly how they think about you, your church,
your child's school, your political leaders in the media, and
the elected officials. This is the situation we have now.
It's an extraordinarily dangerous situation and we're going to talk
to Megan Kelly about it now joining me now host
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of The Wonderful Megan Kelly Show, which is bigger than
it's ever been, no surprise, and she's I've heard rumors
that there's a little old tour coming up, which we'll
get to in a moment, The Wonderful Megan Kelly. Megan,
And before we get to this, I'm sure very small,
not very popular tour you have coming street violence. I
know you've been hot on this and I'm glad you
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have been. It's very clear that they're not going to
change this rhetoric fascist, nazi because they want bad things
to happen. How am I supposed to interpret it in
any other way, Megan.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
You're not. You know, it's the old when people show
you who they are, believe them the first time would
have been ideal, But no, they clearly don't want it
to stop.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Ladist polls show thirty four percent of college students think
it's okay to use violence against somebody who has the
wrong ideas or says the wrong things, and this is
an outgrowth of that. Those people grow up and then
they go out on the streets and they join Antifa
and then they're saying like f ice pigs and actually
assaulting them or fire bombing them. So President Trump has
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no choice but to deploy the National Guard to protect
our ICE agents who are doing the noble thing trying
to clean up Joe Biden's mess. Not a thing is
happening on the streets right now that doesn't directly start
with him. He created the mess. President Trump is trying
to fix it. He's trying to keep people safe. He's
started with the worst first. So the ones he's going
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after in these communities tend to be people who are
not only here illegally, but who have committed additional crimes,
whether it's three times drunk driving or felons, you know,
violent crimes. Why would we want to be protecting them.
Why would Portland, Oregon want those people to stay in
their community. So he's got to just put the gas
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pedal down, and now we have to get serious about
going after the groups that encourage this, whether it's Antifa
or it's trans Tifa, or whoever is online encouraging and
fomenting the violence. Because we're not going to be the
left and claim that speech is violence, but actual participation
and planning in crimes that actually then take cur take
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place is a crime, and you can go after people
for that.
Speaker 12 (14:57):
So we need to.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Megan, you're much better on legal stuff well and a
lot of things than I am. So rico, taking apart
gigantic criminal organizations is very difficult and it's very complicated
that much. I very much do know as a mafia
fan who studied all these things. Do we have the
people it takes to take apart these organizations, not just
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not just arresting some Antifa purple haired freak on the streets,
but the funders the organizations, because these organizations have been
set up to have all these legal firewalls. Does Pam
Bondi in the Justice Department do we have the horses
to make this run.
Speaker 12 (15:39):
I don't know the answer to that. I hope the
answers yes.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
If you're talking about somebody like a George Soros, he's
going to be so well insulated that it's going to
be very hard to get him. But there may be
smaller players that you could start with, and to be honest,
you might only need to go after a couple to
make an example out of them before some of the
lesser players disband or even the George Soros or Alex Souris'
of the world back off of some of this so
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called organizing that they want you to believe that's all
it is that they do. Like the Trantifa group is
a good example, like these online transactivists who have been communicating,
we believe about things, possibly even including the Charlie Kirk murder.
That's one of the things that I know they're looking into.
And listen, I don't know exactly what they're going to find,
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but I did hear from a well placed source that
they believe that that's actually going to pan out, that
there was some sort of organization before this and there
was some coordination.
Speaker 12 (16:34):
Now that's only one source. I don't have a double sourced.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
But my point is simply, if they can start with
a group like that that was online coordinating and celebrating
and potentially even helping and plan an event like that,
and then you are completely merciless with them, I mean,
that could really send the right message. It's tough, though,
as we saw with the Trump law fair you know, rightfully,
so it's tough to bring RICO cases against anyone other
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than the classic people for whom that law was designed.
Which are mobsters, but there are things like conspiracy. You know,
if you've got conspiracy to commit arson, to commit murder,
conspiracy to trespass, it might not be like the most
severe crime in the world. But if you have conspiracy
of two actors conspiring about a crime and then one
takes an affirmative act, you got conspiracy, criminal conspiracy, and
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you could start with those crimes. It doesn't all have
to be the mega level RICO in order to start
making these people pay up penalty for what they do.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Megan, you know, we'll come back to the street animals
in a few because this actually ties directly into one
of the reasons I brought you on Charlie Kirk's assassination. Now,
before Charlie Kirk was assassinated, you had started to organize
a media tour, a talking tour. I guess where you're
going out. You're meeting people, You're standing in front of people,
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and you have chosen not to cancel that. Megan, you
are fairly high profile, aren't you afraid.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
I'm not afraid. I'm really not. Like my concerns about
safety definitely went up. I mean, I'm not an idiot,
but that can all be managed, you know, so we
had to spend more money than we were budgeting on security.
That's fine, That's the least I owe my guests like you,
Jesse Kelly, and my audience.
Speaker 12 (18:17):
My audience too, is going to want to be They're
signing up in droves.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
I didn't know whether the audience would still want to
come out, because you know, they got to be thinking
about it too. The ticket sales went up, not down,
because people are feeling what I think you're feeling and
what I'm feeling, which is now it's even more important
that we get out now.
Speaker 12 (18:36):
Now we have to go now.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
It's like now we have no choice but to do
every single tour stop and to do it boldly and unapologetically,
and to say all the things, and to not cower
even a little. Or they've won and they'll do more
of it. Like the only way of stopping it is
to show them we are not cowed, we are not silent.
In fact, we're going to be louder than ever and honestly,
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to go to the absolute worst place, Jesse, I don't
think anything will happen to me, but God forbid it did,
then I would be depending on you and all of
our other friends in conservative media to take the message
tenfold beyond where it was when I was saying it,
like we just that is the only solution to this problem.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Megan, I love to hear it. I love that attitude,
and you're right, it's wild to me. We have Turning
Point USA chapters popping up everywhere. Church attendants up twenty
five percent since this thing, Like you mentioned your tour.
My phone is melting ever since you announced your tour. Hey, Jesse,
could it get me?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
And get it is?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
It's the opposite of what I probably would have expected,
and it's so so inspiring to watch. Are they afraid?
Is this why the violence is happening? There's this why
there's a clear uptick in violence. Do they feel like
they're losing?
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I think it's a combination of things. I do think
they're afraid, for sure. I mean certain groups in particular
are losing, and that's obvious.
Speaker 12 (20:03):
But I also, like I do think there's a.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Problem with how we chased faith out of our lives
and people are feeling empty inside and they replaced it
with wokeism, and now wocism is being killed bit by
bit for just cause, and so they're in a bit
of a downward spiral and a panic that they have nothing,
and some faction of them will get on board and
return to church the way many disaffected on people on
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the right are in the wake of Charlie's death, and
others will turn to darker forces. And I don't know,
I've just been thinking lately, I'm not that religious, Jesse.
I'm certainly not as religious as Charlie was, and I
don't know scripture the way Charlie did.
Speaker 12 (20:40):
But I can't help help but think there's some level of.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Like demonic inspiration happening over on the other side, like
it started, didn't start, but for me, like the most
recent and obvious example was the murder of those children
at Ascension School in Minneapolis, where they were praying in
the church. Little kids got killed by somebody who when
his drawing showed that he looked in the mirror and
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he saw a demon. He was doing target practice on
Jesus's faith. And then you see Charlie Kirk, like an
evangelist of the truest kind, gunned down in the prime
of his life with a wife and two children at home.
And then you see this guy you know in Michigan
attack Christians, Mormons worshiping in a church and setting them
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on fire. I don't like, I don't want to ignore
like this satanic behavior happening before my very eyes. I've
been wearing my cross more and more because I just
you have to acknowledge when there's evil right in front
of you. And I feel like we invited it. Not
you and I, but we as a society have been
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inviting it by rejecting God, by rejecting scripture, by rejecting,
you know, living in accordance with true faith and what
God wants of us. And now the fruits of that
are being seen everywhere. So now I think that's part
of the reason we're seeing this revival in people going
back to church.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Megan, last question here before we get to your tour
wrap up. What can the Democrat Party change? It seems like,
and I've been talking about this a lot, that they have,
you know, doctor Frankenstein created his monster, all these rabbit
animals now and now, even if they wanted to, even
if they know they should moderate on this or stop
with the crazy on that, it seems like they're kind
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of trapped and can't change. I don't ever want to
say anything is beyond saving. But doesn't it feel like
they're trapped.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yes, they need to break up the Democratic Party and
the same way. We just saw that announcement on X
last week that the LGP LGB is breaking up with
the TQ like they've had it, So this new group
is formed, that's just LGB.
Speaker 12 (22:50):
They're like, why don't we have to be stuck with
those people? That's not our thing.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
The same thing needs to happen within the Democrat Party.
You need like old school liberals who are not and
just want like abortion, to break up with the lunatics
who think it's okay to kill people for bad speech,
and it's okay to cut off healthy body parts on children,
and it's okay to divide everybody by race and tell
little black kids that they are less than and that
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they're never gonna overcome it, and little white kids that
they've got original sin and they'll never overcome that. These
people are lunes who send all the men into the
women's prisons and let them have at the women.
Speaker 12 (23:24):
No, you're locked up, just suck.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
It up, deal with it, like they must have a
breakup otherwise they're never gonna win, Like, how can the
normy Dems, and there are some normy Dems out there,
like Bill Maher. He's not woke, he's a Democrat, he's
not a Republican. He needs to find his tribe and
convince them to start something new. And there's probably enough
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disaffected Republicans like never Trump Republicans who they could bond with.
But we're gonna have to move to a different kind
of system than the two party because if I were demned,
that's what I'd be saying. Because they'll never win again.
They cannot get this coalition together. Woke left flank is
going full communist, as you know, with Zoran, Mom, Donnie
and some others running across country now they're they're not
(24:09):
They've drifted so far they're not coming back. So I
don't know what they do other than acknowledge that reality
and get better organized to deal with it.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Meghan, if I would like to come see Meghan Kelly
in person, and I have had the privilege, how do
I go about going to this tour?
Speaker 12 (24:28):
Well, we've made it super easy.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
You just go to Meghankelly dot com and you can
buy the tickets there and you can also sign up
if you're so interested in getting like a behind the
scenes meet and greet. You could meet me, Jesse Kelly
and Donald Trump Junior.
Speaker 12 (24:44):
Hello, who wouldn't want to do that? Just go to
Megan Kelly dot com.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
You can buy the tickets and then you can do
the meet and greet if you sign up for that too.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Appreciate you very much. I will see you in a
few weeks in sugar nd.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
All.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Right, James, comey got in Dieted. We're going to talk
about why that's very important. It's very good. It's fraught
with danger. The journey is to make it sound like
an old novel. But we'll discuss that. Speaking of danger,
there's danger in your children opening up your mail.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
You want to know what happened to me. I got
a box. Occasionally people will send things to the house.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I got a box, big cardboard box and big, I say,
and I might work.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Obviously.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Kids get home from school, they see a box with
my name on it. They think, oh, there might be
some kind of goodies in here, because sometimes people send
me cool things. They bust open the box and what
do they find An entire box of Massa chips, not
the corn chips, which you know. I'm obsessed with. You
know Massa has all these potato chips, not all these
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cancer causing filth ingredients.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Either.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Potato chips you can eat without the guild. Even my
health freak wife eats their chips where they have all
these different potato chip flavors like smoke cows and one
tastes like Italian dressing. Freaking amazing. By the time I
got home, there was one bag left. I think I
started out with eight. They just took them and hit
them in their room.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Massive Chips. It's caused a war in my house.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
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Speaker 2 (26:29):
We'll be bad.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Okay, let's talk briefly about the James Comy case, the
James Comy indictment. First, I have been calling for the
same thing you've been calling for for a long time.
We have to start sending government people to prison. The
people in power who abuse their power have to go
to prison the same way you would go to prison,
the same way I would go to prison. We can
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no longer have this system them where communists scumbags in
the government get off scot free every single time.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
We don't even have a country.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
If that's what we're going to deal with here, So
government people have to go to prison. Well, walking backwards
from there, how do we send them to prison? Well,
we have to put them on trial. Well, how do
we get them on trial? We have to indict them.
So that's all good stuff. James Comy famously got indicted
for I don't know things like this courtesy Amaye more Rector.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Comy, have you ever been an anonymous source in news
reports about matters relating to the Trump investigation or the
Clinton investigation?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Never have you.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an
anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation or
the Clinton investigation.
Speaker 13 (27:49):
Now, I needed to get that out into the public square,
and so I asked a friend of mine to share
the content of the memo with a reporter. Didn't do
it myself for a variety of reasons by asking him too,
because I thought that might prompt the appointment of a
special counsel.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
As bad And you know, credit to Chuck Grassley, he
very obviously knew the answer to the question when he
asked the question, essentially walking James Comy into a trap
where he perjured himself. And that's one of the things
he's been indicted for. I've been told there will be.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
More, but we'll set that aside for a moment. All
this is very very very good.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Okay, this is good, and the process can be the punishment.
James Comy will probably get Communists help funding his legal fees.
But no matter what, it's going to be a very stressful,
probably very expensive time in the near future for James
Comy as that dirt ball has to defend himself for
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the crimes he committed. This is also a very very
good thing, but we have to win these cases. Just
an indictment, just a trial is not enough as of
right now, and from my understanding this could change.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
As of right now, he's.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Going to be tried in Virginia, the portion of Virginia
that's only slightly to the right of North Korea. How
many Democrats on that jury are going to vote guilty
when James Comy comes up? How many the Justice Department itself.
You realize that James Comy is not going to have
your attorney or my attorney. He's going to have two
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thousand dollars an hour amazing defense attorneys. The Justice Department
is going to have to go up against them and win.
Do we have the people? Do we have the horses
for that? I talked to Megan Kelly about that in
the opening of the show. I don't know. It was
pretty much what she said, and I don't know either.
I am happy. I don't want to pooh pooh something great.
(29:50):
I am happy the indictment happened. I am We got
to follow through, we got to go all the way.
We have to win this. It can't just be a
sho That's my only point. All right, we'll talk to
Alex Sawyer about some legal matters, including the Komi stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
In a moment, before.
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Speaker 2 (31:11):
We'll be back.
Speaker 7 (31:21):
So a lot of people have suggested that there are
a range of factors that would make it difficult to
put a former there's not The system has not been
tested in this way.
Speaker 12 (31:28):
Do you agree with that that it would be.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
Difficult or nearly impossible for the law enforcement institutions to
put him in actual jail.
Speaker 13 (31:35):
No, he would just put him in a double wide
somewhere out near the fence, out in the grass, and
he would eat there, he'd shower there, he'd exercise there,
he'd be away, as Donia Perry said, from general population.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
But it's obviously doable.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Wow, that sounds like a wonderful, wonderful arrangement would probably
apply to anyone else who might be going to prison
from the government joining me now. Alex Sawyer, author of
the book Lawless, Law Fair, which is wildly, wildly and
appropriate book for where we are right now, well, Alex,
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the tables appeared with turn.
Speaker 9 (32:12):
Yes, the tables have definitely turned.
Speaker 14 (32:15):
I know President Trump and his supporters have been waiting
for this moment for quite some time. In the first
couple of chapters of my book, I actually write about Russiagate,
and it seems like ten years later this has come
full circle. One of the major issues with Comey's indictment,
which I think is at least somewhat beneficial to President
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Trump and his supporters, is that this came in the
Eastern District of Virginia instead of Washington d C.
Speaker 9 (32:43):
We know the DC court system is extremely blue.
Speaker 14 (32:46):
Eastern District of Virginia is also very blue, but it has.
Speaker 9 (32:49):
A little bit more read and a little.
Speaker 14 (32:51):
Bit less of a dynamic between Democratic appointed judges versus
Republican appointed judges. I think the first appearance is going
to be in and of a Biden appointee, so obviously
judges matter who appointed them and how they might handle
the case going forward. One last thing about the venue
is that it's kind of referred to as a rocket docket,
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meaning cases move really fast in the Eastern District of
Virginia compared to other courts.
Speaker 9 (33:18):
You know.
Speaker 14 (33:18):
So it doesn't look like Comy would be able to
run out the clock in hopes of a different DOJ
coming in anytime soon before he might have to stand trial.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Okay, Alex, can you give me some nitty gritty on
the case itself. I don't need any help hating James Comy,
I've hated him for a very long time. But as
far as the actual evidence against him, you don't have
to tell me what I want to hear. Is it
pretty black and white he did it, He's guilty.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Is there a lot of gray area? It's going to
depend on this or that. But what kind of case
do we have?
Speaker 14 (33:51):
Yeah, so right now you have James Comy's word that he,
you know, basically that he didn't leak against at least
two other witnesses that we know of that say yes,
in fact, you did. So we know Andrew McCabe, who
worked under Comy, said that he was Comy had authorized leaks. Okay,
So that's one. Two was that his longtime law professor friend,
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Daniel Richmond, he was from Columbia Law School, if you remember,
and it was admitted that Comy would share notes with
him all that sort of thing.
Speaker 9 (34:20):
Well, he has.
Speaker 14 (34:21):
It's been reported that he told this law professor, told
federal law enforcement that he would leak on behalf of COMY,
basically talked to the press for COMY and make you know,
the FBI seem in more positive light. One of the reports,
I think it might be from just the News, had
noted actually that Richmond said that he was given highly
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classified information from COMY. So to me, I also wondered
if that might be another charge. The Feds were looking
at the leaking not just of information, but the idea
that COMY shared classified information with someone who might not
have been authorized to have that. But I think that
would be pretty big that would fall under the Espionage Act.
(35:03):
There's not necessarily a statue of limitations for that, so
you know, I've kind have been one to wonder if
more charges might be coming as well.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Fingers crossed for that.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I am greatly enjoying the media, who was boy, they
just had the vapors about putting Donald Trump away. Now
having to try to explain how this is a disaster.
May is more put together this little montage of Andrew Weisman.
Speaker 15 (35:27):
He is being treated no better or worse than anyone else.
This is not selective prosecution. That this is not somebody
who singled out, that he is being treated just like
anyone else. That is what it means to have a
rule of law. That is what the Justice Department is
really singling and messaging here is that everyone will be treated,
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as Merrik Garland has said, as you know, equally in
this country. This is really a really a great day
for America.
Speaker 16 (35:57):
This is such a horrendous moment for the rule of law,
for the Department of Justice, for the country. We're at
large being singled out for impermissible reasons, and so just
because you did your job, but just because you referred
the president or you opened an investigation into the president,
(36:19):
those are not legitimate reasons to have a sort of
tit for tat vindictive prosecution. This looks like it the
Emperor has no clothes. That is this is the abuse
that it appears to be.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Alex These people really do think the Justice Department should
just work for them, right. They're pretty obvious about it.
Speaker 14 (36:40):
Yeah, you know, I find it kind of surprising, to
be honest, because there's a lot of Democrats that I
guess might have short memory. They weren't a big fan
of Komi either back when it was October I think
of twenty sixteen when he came out and basically made
this announcement about Hillary Clinton, how her handling of emails
(37:00):
or the private email server, how it was very negligent.
Essentially is what he said. But he wouldn't go as
far as to say that there needed to be criminal charges.
Speaker 9 (37:07):
In fact, he said there.
Speaker 14 (37:08):
Shouldn't be, which was a whole issue Republicans had at
the time. He overstepped. That wasn't even his realm to
do that. That should have been the Justice Department, but
he took it upon himself, and Democrats weren't happy at
the time. They said that that was largely an October
surprise that hurt Hillary Clinton in the twenty sixteen election
against Donald Trump.
Speaker 9 (37:27):
Now it looks like they're coming to.
Speaker 14 (37:28):
His defense simply because you know, he's the first I guess,
you could say a critic of the president that's been indicted.
Speaker 9 (37:35):
More to come.
Speaker 14 (37:36):
I'm guessing given what we've heard from some of the
Trump administration officials, I've wondered if we're going to see
any more rico allegations kind of a conspiracy that's been
hinted upon from I think it was Tulci Gabbard early on,
maybe James Clapper, others that were involved in this initial
you know, twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen probe into the twenty
sixteen Trump campaign with the whole Russia allegations. You know,
(38:00):
more to come, I'm sure, but yeah, I think Democrats
have short memory, Alex.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
What about Christopher Ray cash Bettel's going on Fox News
essentially saying he lied to Congress. I don't know what
kind of immunity you have as the former head of
the FBI. In my opinion, there shouldn't be any. But
that's another story entirely. Is there a chance we see
that scumbag.
Speaker 9 (38:21):
Burn Well, I would say there's no immunity.
Speaker 14 (38:25):
I mean, look at what's happened with James Comy, right,
He's facing charges, and so if it was true that
Ray lied while under oath, he would be able to
face the similar charges. However, I'm not sure if the
first of all the evidence or the statement would be
as clear cut as what we have with Komy. I
(38:46):
wanted I actually wrote down one of the quotes. I
think it was Ray told the House Committee, if you
were asking if the violence at the Capitol was part
of some operation orchestrated by FBI sources or agents.
Speaker 9 (38:57):
The answer is no.
Speaker 14 (38:59):
And it does seem like Patel has come out and
said there weren't agents at the actual speech where President
Trump spoke, They didn't go from there to the Capitol
instigate any violence. That they were sent out actually after
the rioting already began. So I think he kind of
played with words a little bit of a DC answer,
which you know, he was very much I'm sure trained
(39:19):
and experienced to give. So I'm not sure would be
as clear cut as a case that we have with Komy,
but it does big questions about if these reports are
accurate that two hundred and seventy four, If the I
agents were sent to the Capitol on January sixth carrying
a firearm but in plain clothing and not marked as agents,
you know, what was What's.
Speaker 9 (39:39):
The reason for that? Why would they even do that?
Speaker 14 (39:41):
I think it would even present a safety concern for
the agents, as we know other law enforcement agencies were
around and responding at the time. So yeah, I definitely
think there's more more investigation that needs to happen. More
answers need to come forward, But I don't know if
Ray's answer was as clear cut as what we've had
and what we've seen.
Speaker 11 (39:56):
With Komen.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Alex.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Let's talk about this Supreme Court. Trump is calling on
them to review birthright citizenship, which obviously is a disgrace.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
But how does this work.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Can the President just say to the Supreme Court, Hey,
you need to hear this, and will they hear it?
And if they do hear it, how are they going
to decide?
Speaker 5 (40:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 14 (40:15):
Okay, So, first of all, basically what happens on these
cert petitions is the Trump administration goes to the Supreme
Court and asks them to review lower court rulings against them.
And so here this is on the birthright citizenship issue,
and what it comes down to is the Fourteenth Amendment.
And basically President Trump has argued that it well, first
(40:36):
of all, should start with the Fourteenth Amendment. It reads,
all persons born are naturalized in the United States and
subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United
States and of the state wherein they reside. So President
Trump has argued that those born here from illegals are
not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. In fact,
they're subject to the country from which their parents come from.
(40:57):
So that's their argument. Now critics say that there's precedent
from decades ago. I can't even remember I wrote down
the case, but basically I think it's Wong King Kim
arc that case. And Justice Sotomayora cited this in an
earlier dissent, basically saying that it did attest to those
who are are on the US soil are guaranteed you know,
(41:18):
rights and citizenship under our constitution. Basically that it's a
fundamental rule of citizenship guaranteed by the four fourteenth Amendment,
is what Justice Sodomira said. So one, we already kind
of have an idea of where she's going to fall,
not that we were, you know, thinking she would be
for President Trump at all. But what would happen for
this case to get arguments scheduled would be at least
(41:39):
four justices would have to vote in favor of hearing it.
We won't know who they are. I wouldn't be surprised
if we do get the justices to get take this up,
because if you remember, right at the end of last term,
they took it up, but on the issue of nationwide injunctions.
So they first decided We're going to look at this
and see some of these lower court judges that are
issuing these not national blockades on President Trump's policies, whether
(42:03):
they've overstepped their authority.
Speaker 9 (42:05):
To do so.
Speaker 14 (42:06):
And they decided that and they basically set an order
for nationwide injunctions to be issued. There should be a
class action or state should be the plaintiffs.
Speaker 9 (42:13):
That sort of thing. Judges have kind of found ways
around that.
Speaker 14 (42:15):
They are moving quickly to certify classes in order to
block the president agenda.
Speaker 9 (42:21):
So I'm not sure that rule and the.
Speaker 14 (42:22):
Actually had as big of an impact as we had
initially thought. But given that this case is now back
on the merits on the actual Fourteenth Amendment issue, I
wouldn't be surprised if the Court took it.
Speaker 9 (42:32):
Now.
Speaker 14 (42:32):
Lower courts have ruled pretty much universally against President Trump
and said no because of that President that I cited
earlier from Justice Sotomayor that you know, they've said no,
President Trump's take on the fourteenth Amendment is incorrect. And
so because all lower courts haven't conflicted, right, they've all
ruled one way, that gives the justices reason to kind
(42:53):
of wait and see if there's a court out there
that rules for the president. They like to take cases
where lower courts have ruled differently to kind of set
a state.
Speaker 9 (43:00):
So we will find out.
Speaker 14 (43:02):
It could be weeks from now when we know if
it's gonna get scheduled for oral arguments. But yes, we
won't really know what justice is voted to hear it,
but at least four.
Speaker 9 (43:11):
Would have to do so.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Alex As always appreciate you come back, So all right,
we have light in the mood. Next, Kathy Hogel went
to the Ryder Cup, and she shouldn't have gone to
the Ryder Cup, but she did because she's an idiot
and doesn't understand how.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Normal people think.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Before we get to Kathy Hogel, why do you have Horizon?
Why do you have AT and T R T Mobile?
And I understand you're gonna have a cell phone. I
have a cell phone. We're gonna have cell phones. I
get it. But you don't have to support with your
money these gigantic cell phone companies who hate you, who
(43:53):
take your money and use your money against your values.
You don't have to do that. Pure talk is here
to change that. They're on the same network. I'm not
asking you to sacrifice service. They'll charge you less. And
pure talk doesn't give the black lives matter. Pure talk
isn't about the ESG all the communists feels out there.
Pure talks about America. Their CEO is a veteran Vietnam veteran.
(44:18):
Pure Talk is so American. They only hire Americans in
customer service. When you switch to pure Talk, you'll speak
to a pleasant American who speaks English. Go to puretalk
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Speaker 2 (44:33):
We'll be back. All right, it's time to lighten the mood.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
We do love making fun of Democrats, and we especially
love how if you spend enough time in Democrat politics
as a Democrat politician, you tend to lose the ability
to be human. And it happens for this reason. It's
a bubble. The communist ecosystem is complete bubble. So if
(45:07):
you only hang out with other Democrats, you only work
with other Democrats. When you're turning on the television or
the radio, you're only listening to other Democrats. You're getting
all kinds of reinforcement on what you believe. But what's
happening is you are slowly but surely losing your ability
to relate to other human beings, and so you try
to do things that normal people do so you can
(45:30):
appear normal.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
But it doesn't work.
Speaker 9 (45:33):
Like you.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Remember when Chuck Schumer posted up that picture, I forget
what the holiday was, July fourth, Labor Day. I don't
remember of him cooking burgers. Only the burgers were raw
on the grill and he already had the cheese on there.
It never even occurred to Chuck Schumer that that's not
how you cook a burger. He's just such a lizard
person and went by him. New York Governor Kathy Kokel
went to the Ryder Cup, and here's how.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
It went on for New York.
Speaker 17 (45:56):
Your friend and mine in attendance, Governor Kathy Hokel, thank
you so much for being here, and thank you to
your team too for getting us ready for the Ryder
Cup in New York.
Speaker 12 (46:10):
I would like to say a few thank yous to
Governor State New.
Speaker 15 (46:14):
York, Kathy Hokel, as we prepare to tee it up
on Friday, I want to thank the people who made
this journey possible. To Governor Hokel, to the teams of
New York.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Why would you show up there and be introduced ah
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