November 21, 2025 • 44 mins
California Governor Gavin Newsom is preparing to run for President in 2028. Does he have a real chance of victory? What should you know about him? Jesse Kelly takes a deep dive alongside Ann Coulter, John Phillips and Mike Slater.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
No thy enemy.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
So we're about to talk about Gavin Newsom, and I
know it seems like it's early.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
We still have midterms, right, we have all these local elections,
we have midterm elections. It's early. It is early.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
But he's preparing, shouldn't we That's the important thing to note.
Gavin Newsom. As much as I despise him as a
very capable politician who's wanted to run for president forever,
it's one of those guys. He's always wanted to be president.
He was crisscrossing the country years ago. Last election cycle,
(00:43):
he was crisscrossing the country. And they're always selling it
as I'm doing a speaking tour or I'm campaigning for
someone else, but that's not what they're doing. You see,
they're bouncing around building the bones of what will be
a presidential campaign a few years from now. Galvin Newsom
is going to run. Galvin Newsom is going to raise
(01:07):
a boatload of money. We have to be wary of
it we do, and what we should not do, and
what we're all tempted to do. I definitely am is
convince ourselves that the communists are.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Down and out, They're dead and gone, They're on the outs.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Now the culture has moved away from them, and they're
never going to win another election. That's just not the
kind of country we have right now. The reason we
have been blowing back and forth for quite a while
is American citizens in general are displeased with the state
(01:44):
of things. They think life is too expensive, too dirty.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
To.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Pick your way to describe it.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
But when the American people are unhappy, when any people
are unhappy and they have the opportunity to change their government,
they oftentimes do. And you and me we can scream
at them till we're blue in the face about well,
you don't change it back to the people who burn
it down, why would you give it? But that falls
on deaf ears, all the brain dead morons out there
(02:13):
who actually decide our elections. I'm talking about the people
who vote democratic cycle, the Republican next secon Well, I
don't like it, the back and forth and back and forth.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
These are the people who decide elections.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Where are we going to be in twenty twenty eight
I have no freaking idea, and neither do you. We
could be in the middle of a war, a recession,
in economic boom. Things might be great. I don't know
which brings us back to Gavenues. The man's running. Why
do you think he's out there talking about guns?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Other This is fabulous.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
You know what last thing people would expect is.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
That I respect this gift.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Really, I appreciate ye, man.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I'm not an anti gun at all. I'm for just
some gun say common sense that I think vast majority
of folks in the right and the left degree and
I think we lost a little touch with some common
sense around background checks.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
That's a good answer.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Well, I hate it, Okay, I hate it. I know
you hate it, and I know you're well aware.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
That's how the communist tries to sell what he does.
It's common sense. It's common sense.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
That's how they nibble around the edges of your gun
right so they can eventually disarm you and then throw
you in a gulag, which is really what they want
to do. I know that I got that, and you
got that. We understand each other on that. But for
the norm out there, for the normies, that's what they
want to hear. The sounds like a very common sense thing.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
It's capable. Do you remember remember remember.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
When they tried to butcher up Tim Walls it's a
natural reaction.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
I think it's one of the reasons we're losing so
many men. And again it's multi ethnic. It's not just
white men. We're losing them. We're lose in them to
these guys online. We're losing the people that I'm bringing
on this podcast as well. It's why I bring these
are bad guys though. These are the guys, but they exist,
and we could deny the exist. They exist. Not only
that they exist, they persist and they're actually influencing young kids
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every single day.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Some of those guys back under a rock.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
I think we have to first understand what their motivations are.
I think we have to understand what they're actually doing.
And I don't think that's acism and misogyny. I think
there's a lot of that, but I don't think it's
exclusively that. When you talk to a guy like Steve Bannon,
you know, he reminded me a little bit of my
grandfather when he talks about working folks.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I can't message that women shouldn't have.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
But I think if we say people are misogynists, then
we're falling prey. We're in that frame. Not everybody that
disagrees with us is a misogynist, even those that. But
I think this notion of I think it's this notion
of toxicity and masculinity needs to be separated. And I
think it's been conflated, and I think we we we
we're going to have to work on that.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
That's a good answer.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
You see Democrats hemorrhaged young men last election. Demographically, you
could argue that's the reason Donald Trump is in the
White House. When you look at how young men voted,
they hate the Democrat Party, and in large part because
the Democrat Party speaks the way Tim Wall spoke. There
aren't they all just sexist, they're stupid, they're all racist,
(05:23):
Just keep calling them names. Gavin Newsome now he feels
the same way, don't get me wrong, but he understands
that's how you're going to lose all of them. No
one's going to come vote for you if that's how
you speak to them. So he's just better at it.
And he's out there trying to rev up the Democrat
base because they're all a bunch of Trump deranged, insane
(05:44):
people who've been driven baddie by Trump for ten years,
and so he's telling them all that there won't be
an election.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Wake up you or lose your country again.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
It's not about Democrats or but.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
It's about all of us convinced.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
He I'm absolutely you've seen it.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
He's tried to steal the last election.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
He tried to race, trying to rig it.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
In plain sight, that's what Democrats want to hear. That's
what Democrats want to hear. You have to run as
a Democrat on fighting Trump at all times. Now, fighting
Trump now all that's the bad news. And we're gonna
get to some guests who talk about Gavin Newsom, guests
who know him quite well, people who are current or
(06:30):
formerly California residents. But the good news is this I had.
I want to thank Gavin Newsom actually for this. One
of my favorite things in politics is Democrat politicians.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Trying to win the black vote.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
You know, it just always creates these cringey, hilarious, kind
of racist moments. You have Joe Biden telling them that
the Republicans are going to put.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Him in chains.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
He had Hillary Clinton famously saying she cares these hot
sauce around in her purse. Gavin Newsome went on a
podcast with NBA guys and talked about shooting hoops and Wonderbread.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
All this anti woke stuff is just anti black period,
full stop. All the c R T, E, S, G
D E I stuff. That's all this is. It's this
great purge. But also, you know, it was also about
paying the bills, man, And it was just like hustling
and and so I was out there kind of raising myself,
turning on the TV started, you know, just getting obsessed,
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you know, sitting there with the you know, the Wonderbread
and five stacks of.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Come on.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Every day, every day in the backyard, just bouncing the basketball,
throwing the ball against the wall, until it was just
like fraying.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Man.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Anyway, let's talk to Mike Slater about it.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
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Speaker 1 (08:58):
We'll be back. You were on the board and you
wanted to become mayor, and then you want to become governor.
Speaker 7 (09:14):
That didn't work, so then you want to become a
tenant governor and you know, I suspect you want to
be president one day.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Oh god, no, really so?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I mean, I you know, why do they all lie
about that? It's always so exhausting.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
They all do it. Republicans do it too. Nah, I
don't want to be president. I mean, do you want
me to be president? Joining me now? Host of the
Wonderful Politics by Faith podcast, someone who knows Gavin Newsom
quite well, Mike Slater, Mike, it's the line that gets me.
What's wrong with just saying, yeah, I'm an ambitious person,
I'm in politics.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I want to run for president.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Why do they all have to do the reluctant public
servant thing.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I find it exhausting.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Yeah, Gavin Newsom has wanted to run for president since
he was a poor black youth growing up on the
wrong side of the tracks in California. I think that's
what he was doing, Like this podcast the other day
with these NBA guys and he was like, oh, man, like,
I grew up so poor and I could barely afford food,
and I was like, my mom had to make my
(10:19):
own clothes. He's like fanning this whole picture. That's the
other thing you got to You gotta do this like
reluctant George Washington thing where like I don't really want
to be and then you also got to do the ipoor.
I grew up poor and impoverished just like you. People.
Give me a break. Gavin Newsom is such a liar,
such a snake. Real quick background about Gavin Newsom for
(10:40):
when he does run, and to be clear, he's been
wanting to run his entire life. We'll get to that
in a second. But uh, Gavin Newsom tells a story
about how he grew up poor. His dad was and
I was trying. I was looking up before I got
out here. Jesse because I was thinking, was his dad
the lawyer for the Getty oil family or was his
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dad the financial advisor for the getting I forget which
one was. It turns out he was both. He was
the top lawyer and the heir or the whoever. I
don't even know what it's called, because I don't have
a billion dollar trust, but he was in charge of
all the financial trust for the Getty Oil billions and
billions of dollars. No one in history has been more
connected than ga a young Gavin Newsom. That's how he
(11:24):
got his first job through Willy Brown, who was the
mayor of San Francisco, to he was appointed to the
Board of Supervisors of San Francisco, and then he became
the mayor, and then he went up to the lieutenant
governor and now he's the governor. And of course he
wants to be president. He's always wanted to be president.
But I think it's so rich that Gavin Newsom, who
just the other day was the only really American who
went to the big global warming conference in Brazil, like
(11:47):
all the real countries in the world didn't even go,
but Gavin Newsom went to represent Americaca's trying the Trump administration.
There go, Gavin Newsom is rich and famous because of
oil because of the Getty oil family. But it's not
just Tim quicksidebar And then we'll get back to Gavin.
The previous governor before Gavin Newsom was Jerry Brown. His dad,
Pat Brown, was the governor of California late nineteen fifty
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eight to in the nineteen sixties. Pat Brown was actually
pretty good governor. That's why we have the UC system
and highways and nuclear power plants and water facilities. Liken
or Pat Brown built a lot. Pat Brown, after he
was governor, went to go work for the military dictatorship
led oil company in Indonesia, and he is the one
who hooked up this Indonesian oil company with all these
(12:27):
oil contracts in California. So the reason Pat Brown, who
is like uber crazy environmentalists, when he was governor in California,
he got rich because of oil too. So the two
most recent governors of California, who are always on this
anti environmentals in crusade, both are just dripping in oil money.
I just thought you would like that story.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I did like that story a lot. Mike.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
This this Getty family tell me about that I keep
hearing about the Getty family, But people outside of California
haven't really heard of these people.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Who are they?
Speaker 5 (12:59):
What? Oh, it's yeah, Getty Oil. I mean they don't
fill their name around too much so much anymore, but
I mean they got tons and tons of money and
tons of connections. Gavin News's whole life is about connections
with the machine, the party machine, with the Pelosi's as well.
There's another party machine up in San Francisco. Think about this.
All the national politicians who have come out of California
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come out of San Francisco. They don't. The national politicians
don't come out of La They certainly don't come out
of San Diego, where I spend a long time. It's
way more cool and relaxing San Diego. They're all coming
out of this crazy party machine out of San Francisco.
Nancy Pelosi has been the leader of it more recently,
and the Getty's they're all up there in northern California
as well. So it's just money and connections, and it's
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about time that the people of America say enough of
San Francisco politicians, like we don't want any more of them,
thank you very much, they're total failures. Now. I think
the good news about San Francisco politicians, if I may,
is they're just not ready for prime time because they
never took the reps. We see it with Kamala She's
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kind of worked her way up the ranks of California
and then they put her on this national platform and
we're like, oh, wow, you're not capable of doing anything. Actually,
And I think Gavin Newsom's iOS and he's obviously more
capable than Kamala Harris, but he's still it's easy if
you're a Democrat and you work up the ranks in
the machine of San Francisco, like, that's easy. It's that's
small ball. That's that's soft pitch, softball, man like you,
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Gavin Newsom is playing like rec league softball in town,
and that is that's that's politics in California if you're
a Democrat. And then they put him in the major
leagues one day, and he goes in thinking he's like
tough stuff, like oh I got this, I'm hitting dangers,
no problem. And then he goes into the major leagues
and gets asked real questions and has to have real
accountability head to him in a real debate and he
looks like a total fool, and we got a little
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hinto that. It was like a couple years ago. I
remebe he did that debate with DeSantis and he got
totally smoked, And that's what it's going to be like
when he was for presidents. So I hope that the
American people pretty quickly see that Gavin Newsom is gonna
be pretty out of his league when he gets into
the national scene.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Mike, how many of his scandals? Because he's had scandals.
Of course, he's a sleeve ball, he's a politician anyway.
I mean, he's had affairs, he had all that COVID,
French laundry stuff. He's had scandals, there's no question. But
do they stain him nationally? I know Californians are aware
of them, certainly California Republicans are. But when he kicks
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off this run for president, what follows with him?
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Yeah, that's such a good question. I became really disillusioned
with California politics and one of the reasons we moved
after COVID. COVID was horrific in every way in California.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
It was ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
And you mentioned the French laundry, right, not only the
French laundry, as he was shutting down schools across the
entire country, forcing everyone to wear masks. His kids were
going to a private school that wasn't shut down. Okay,
so it's like, what are we doing here? He was recalled, right,
we did a recall effort, big, get the you know,
you gotta say the thing to get him to recall.
But then the people overwhelmingly voted to keep them. You're
(16:04):
just like, oh my gosh, Like it was like hopeless.
And that's just the way it is in California's been
that way since nineteen ninety four. We can explain why
if you want, if you want to ask that later.
But I was thinking, man, is this gonna work? Like,
will the people of Iowa vote for this? Well? The
people will Democrats in Wisconsin vote for this guy? And
maybe it's not the COVID stuff that sticks. Unfortunately, you
and I agree that it definitely should. Like you should
(16:25):
be disqualifying and they should be run out of like embarrassed,
constantly mocked and ridiculed and and and worse.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
I just think it's the result of everything in California,
just everything the homelessness, the incoming equality. I mean, it's
just a it's a bad place. There's total failure, the
open drug debts, the crime is out of control. I mean,
this is like where George Soros has his das like
crazy across California. I mean, like you name the issue.
(16:54):
We just recently it was the story about U see
San Diego and how you see San Diego, which is
one of the big UC schools, one of the big
impressive schools. They have so many kids in this school,
this college that are in remedial math all the way
down to first grade level remedial math first grade, don't
even know what a fraction is, and they're in the
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UC San Diego like one of the top U see schools.
It's like Berkeley, UCLA, U See San Diegoo is the
Big three. They don't even know fractions and they're in
U see San Diego, which is a total failure of
not only the UC system, but also the K through
twelve system. We can look at the amount of illegal
aliens that are in California. Twenty five percent of all
the illegal aliens in the country are in California, and
we see the consequences of that. So there's very little
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that the Gavenuez are can point to other than Silicon Valley.
It's the only reason why California is still somewhat afloat
is because of all the money that comes out of
you know, where he's from, with all the connections and
the money of Silic A Valley. But and that's got
to dry up eventually, and there's nothing else that he
can point to other than that. I don't I hope
the rest of the country won't be dazzled by the
money and his slickness out of Sanford Cisco, and instead
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we'll see the reality of what he's done to the state.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Mike, before you go tell me about the politics by
Faith podcast. I mean, I am well aware of it,
obviously I'm a fan, But tell everyone else.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
I appreciate it. Bro, thank you very much. We take
news of the day, we run it through a biblical
filter to try to make sense of it and what's happening.
It started off with years ago we were in a
time of a lot of anxiety. So it's like, hey man,
it's okay, there's nothing new under the sun. We can
get through this and hopefully everyone could be like, take
a breath and move forward with confidence. But now I
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feel pretty good about things politically. These things are happening
a little better, but we still look at everything through
the biblical context to try to make sense of what's happening.
If I could throw one for Gavin Newsom, Isaiah tend says,
woe to those who decree iniquitous decrees and turn aside
the needy from justice and rob the poor of my
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people of their right. There's no state that has more poverty.
There's no state that has more inequality. There's no state
that has worse education results. There's no state that has
more taxation. If Gavin Newsom wants to run in a
nation that the number one topic right now is affordability.
That's why Zorn won in New York City. He was
an out Zorn as an outsider so he could come
in to fix it. Gavin Newsen' is the ultimate insider.
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He's been there forever. What has he done to fix this?
What has he done to fix affordability? Nothing? He's done
in horrible things for this state, for California. He has
decreed many iniquitous decrees. Woe to him, and I hope
that people of America make him realize that soon.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I hope so too. Mike, Thank you, brother. Come back.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
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Speaker 4 (20:53):
I think there's a California derangement syndrome, and he's part
of it. I mean, I think people are obsessed with
focusing on what's wrong with the state and not what's
right with the state. I mean, you have more scientists, engineers,
more researchers, more Nobel laureates in the state than any
other state in the nation. We're the fourth largest economy
in the world four point one trillion dollars, with the
finest system of higher education that addresses the issue of
equity better than any other public education system in the world.
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We dominate in every category. Name it where the biggest
manufacturing state, the biggest farming state, ranchers and hunting jobs,
which is interesting. We dominate in AI and quantum and
fusion in every key category. The quality of life here consistently.
And you look at the top ten cities in the
United States of American consistently, the top five are identified
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in the state of California. And we invent the future.
It happens here first, where America has come in at traction.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Well, it sounds wonderful there it used to be. I
guess joining me now, my friend, the wonderful and culture
you really really need to be reading her substack and
culture dot substack dot com. And why is everybody leave
in California because it is well, it was paradise at
one point in time.
Speaker 8 (22:05):
Yes, it's funny. Pretty much everything he mentioned there makes
it sound oh fantastic. It's something he has he or really,
I suppose any government has nothing to do with. It's
also by far the largest state. Of course, it has
the most, the most nobel laureates. It has an extensive
university system. They have to go someplace. That doesn't mean
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the students know how to read, but they have the
most people. And if you have the most people, you're
gonna have the most of all of those things. How
about comparing it, you know, population to population point one
point two. Yeah, the weather's great, the mountains are beautiful,
the beaches are great. That's that wasn't the governor's doing.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
And you know, I know we're talking about NUSOM, but
it occurs to me that they do this to all
the most beautiful places. Oregon is maybe the most beautiful
state the country. These dirty comedy savages have ruined it Washington.
Same thing they do, the say they have Connecticut. People
don't know how beautiful Connecticut is. Whatever is beautiful, They're
like locusts. They come and just descend on it.
Speaker 8 (23:11):
Why yes, well, because it is beautiful, I think. I
think the question is more how all of these beautiful
places were built by conservatives, by Rockefeller, Carnegie, by oil barns.
And I think we're finding out a little bit more
than we have before. Any institution will be overtaken with
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leftists if given enough time. I mean consider a Ford Foundation,
Carnegie Foundation. And we got a good picture of how
so many of these institutions are taken over all the
Ivy League schools actually, I think all except mine Cornell
were founded as Christian institutions Dartmouth specifically to civilize the
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Indians into Christianity and excellent mission. Add but liberals are
sneaky and their idea is to worm their way into
these to these organizations. We also got a little view
into how they have so much money to be doing
(24:16):
things like what Antifa is doing with the US AID expose.
Oh my gosh, taxpayers are paying for a lot of
left wing agitating and nonsense.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Crime. Here was Kevin Newsome talking about crime.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
See what's happening there. We do see businesses moving out
for various reasons, but some of them saying they're concerned
about the crime in the area. When you see that
happening to your beloved city, what goes through your mind?
And do you think something's going wrong there?
Speaker 4 (24:46):
I think they're struggling to recover from the pandemic. They're
struggling to come back.
Speaker 9 (24:51):
They're struggling with the macroeconomic shifts, particularly as it relates
to telework, as it relates to what's the future of
a downtown. Is it's stacking of offices or stacking of people,
and they're in the process of rezoning, in rebirth and reimagination.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
By the way, I've seen that in sanman scoop for decades. Uh.
From one the hand thing really is it is? It
is odd. I know everybody talks about it too.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
And do people actually care that much about crime? I
mean they say they do, but it's still fifty to
fifty country Democrats are up in every generic ballot and
they're the open jail party.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Do people actually care about it?
Speaker 8 (25:27):
Yes, I'm not sure Republicans run on it quite enough.
And also, I mean, the crime is worse in very
small pockets places that are already run by very very
left wing, very left wing mayors, das and so on
and so forth. So I guess it's a little hard
to see in some of the election results. I think
it helps Trump quite a bit. But you did, Oh
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my gosh, that answer. I want to I want to
shoot them for this. This This is a big campaign
of the New York Times, and I guess all Democrats
to blame the Bakana all of violence that erupted and
really hasn't gone down with the BLM riots in twenty twenty.
Luckily for them, that was also the same year we
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had the pandemic. But as I've written about endlessly, you
can go back as I have and look at all
of the headlines and newspapers in the first in the
first month of the pandemic, right up until June first,
the day after the methamphetamine attic died in Minneapolis, and
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the big news was crime was going down, all over headlines,
Washington Post, New York Times, this is so great crime
at least, you know, making everybody stay home has whipped
the crime problem headline after headline after headline. And then, weirdly,
it was right after George Floyd died that suddenly the
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crime rate went up higher than it has ever gone
up in this country history. The second, the second biggest jump,
I think it was thirty percent. It went up. Second
biggest jump was in nineteen sixty eight, and I think
it went up by around twelve percent that time, a
gigantic jump in horrible violent crimes. This was entirely the
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liberals doing. They were the ones egging on black Black
Lives matter. It was leftist DA's not only not punishing,
not putting away these terrorists Antifa murdering people, just monstrous violence,
but rewarding them if a cop was a little too
rough with them. The liberal mayors of these towns would say,
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oh my gosh, you poor little Antifa here, Let's give
you a gigantic, multi million dollar award paid for by
the taxpayers, and then Antifa has more money to keep
destroying things. That's what has caused the crime. The George
Soros das, of course, they were the ones doing this.
It wasn't the pandemic. Besides the fact that we had
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six weeks of crime absolutely going down all over the country.
Because of the pandemic, crime is moinning in the opposite direction.
But weirdly, crime didn't go up in the entire rest
of the world for the rest of the pandemic. It
was just in this country where BLM struck and struck
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really hard.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
And how much should we worry about Gavin Newsom in
twenty twenty eight. I mean, I have such disdain for
him and everything he stands for anyway, and I find
him creepy and weird. But I'm never going to vote
for the Democrat. I'm not their target audience. Is he
somebody we should fear?
Speaker 5 (28:47):
I think so.
Speaker 8 (28:48):
I mean he's polling. He's the one in recent polls,
anyone anybody who's getting the majority of the Democratic vote,
And I think we should worry, not because of Newsom.
I'm with you. I think he seems very slick and oily.
But I don't know Democrats don't mind that. I think
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it's just that it will have been I don't know,
four years of Trump, and the country does tend to
go back and forth. People remember, remember the things they
don't like about the guy in power, and they can
always project, you know, sunshine and puppies on the guy
who hasn't held office yet. I find it hard to
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believe in my rational brain that someone who has done
to California what Governor Newsom has done to California, that
he could he could achieve higher office. But I don't
know what the country did elect Joe Biden sort.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Of, I guess kind of.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
And you're the best come back, all right, John Phillips lives.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Under got Newsom. I mean, I mean it lives in.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
California and whatever, we're gonna talk to John Phillips thanxt.
Speaker 10 (30:17):
It's clear that this governor has a vision for our country.
He has knowledge of our country and our state, the
state of California, the fourth largest economy in the world.
Gavin manages that way. That was with great dignity. He
has strategic thinking about how to get things done, and
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that is what has brought us together here. When this
opportunity occurred. Gavin had a plan. He's a man with
a plan, and that's what brings us here today.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
It's hard watching Grandma Vodka in these later years still
attempt to be functional. But either way, joining me now,
John Phillips, host of the Wonderful John Phillips Show. John,
let's start actually with those two. How far back did
those two go?
Speaker 6 (31:10):
They go back a long time, but they're not as
close as people think that they are necessarily. Nancy Pelosi
came from Leo McCarthy, who was the Speaker of the
California Assembly, the lieutenant governor, and Gavin Newsom came from
Willie Brown. So while they both come from San Francisco politics,
they were mentored and socialized into that world by different people.
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And so I know a lot of people say, well,
they're related by marriage. Well, yeah, that's kind of true.
One of Gavin's relatives married one of her husband's relatives,
but they're not as close as people necessarily think. The
point that she made there, though, is not go ahead, no,
go ahead, go ahead no. The point that she made
is not entirely accurate. She was referencing Prop fifty, which
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was California and you're redrawing the district lines and said
that Gavin Newsom was a man with a plan and
that couldn't be further from the truth. He got Nancy
Pelosi and the Congressional Democrats to sign on to him
going out and threatening to do something like this as
a bluff, and then he decided that he would turn
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it into an opportunity to go on a nationwide tour
going on all these podcasts where he engaged in all
of this bar talk where he talked about if Texas
does this, this is what we're going to do, so
back down now, and he got so deep into it
that they were boxed into a corner where they had
to move forward with Proposition fifty. She didn't want to
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do it. The Democrats in Congress didn't want to do it.
He forced them into it by running around the country
and running his mouth.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Okay, so Prop fifty explain to people what it is
and why wouldn't Nancy Pelosi want it?
Speaker 6 (33:01):
Well, that's a heavily jerrymannered map for California's congressional districts
that would benefit Democrats and probably draw out five Republicans.
They didn't want to do it because these people are
old and lazy. And if you're old and lazy and
you represented a congressional district for thirty years, are you
really want to get in your car and drive four
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hours to the outskirts of California to meet your new
constituents and learn new issues and get on different committees
and do all the things that they're now going to
have to do. With all of their new districts. They
didn't want to do that. What they wanted to do
is they wanted to put pressure on Texas to back down,
so there wouldn't be Republican gains in Texas, but they
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wouldn't have to work any harder.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
In California.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
Galvin Newsom, by doing what he did, forced their hand.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
So you say they kind of come from different trees,
It sounds like in California, are they enemies, frenemies?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
What are they?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Then?
Speaker 6 (34:06):
I don't necessarily know if i'd call them frenemies. Gavin
Knewsim and Kamala Harris are frenemies because they're They're of
the same age, and they came up around the same time,
and in theory they could pump into each other when
they would be competing for the same offices. Now they
made it a point to run for different offices, so
that never happened. Now they may run against each other
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for president. You're already starting to see that infighting going on.
But Nancy was already long established by the time that
Gavin came around. She never regarded him as a threat.
She regarded him as someone who could help her out
and do things for her. But she never regarded him
as someone who could was capable of taking her job
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or preventing her from doing whatever it is that she
wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Kamawa Dome if you will her in news you.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Mentioned them potentially running against each other in twenty twenty eight.
I have a theory, it's purely a theory that she's
going to skip this cycle because she's so tainted in
the minds of Democrat donors.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
I think it's going to be.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Very difficult for her to raise large amounts of money.
But it's just a theory. I don't know that.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
What say you, Well, the cold war between those two
has gone hot in certain ways. First of all, in
her book and I read this passage, so since I
saw the numbers and none of you else, nobody else did.
She talked about how when Joe dropped out of the
race and Obama and Pelosi and others wanted an open
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primary that would have benefited a candidate like Gavin, she
prevented that from happening by securing endorsements almost immediately, including
Joe Biden's. She said in the book that she called
Gavin Newsom to tell him about this, and that he
sent her to voicemail and never return the phone call.
(36:02):
And it's not even just that that happened, it's that
it happened and she wanted to whack him about it,
so she put that passage in the book. You don't
have to put that in the book. She chose to
put that in the book. And then here in California
right now, we have a huge scandal going on that
involves the former chief of staff for Gavin Newsom and others,
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and many of them have already pled guilty. So we
know that people are going to go to jail and
they are going to be convicted over this, although the
chief of staff has not done that yet. She's said
that she is innocent and she's going to fight these charges.
But when that story broke, one of the first people
to spike the football on Gavin Newsom is a guy
by the name of Gil Duran, who is a former
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aide to Kamala Harris. So the Harris people are enjoying
the scandal because the scandal doesn't touch them. It's a
scandal that's associated with Gavin and Javier and Bessera, the
former Secretary Health and Human Services, and others. But if
they had such a great relationship. You probably wouldn't have
your people out there spiking the football and celebrating doing
(37:10):
the end zone dance when your buddy is dealing with
the scandal.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
How scandalous is Newsom's past as it pertains to the
United States of America running for president. I mean, I
know in California there are a million micro scandals of his.
What's going to stain him when he tries to sell
himself in Wisconsin in a few years.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
Well, you have his record which is abysmal, So I
would start with that. In terms of scandal in California,
if you're a Democrat in good standing, it's hard to
really get caught in a scandal unless the FEDS catch you.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Because, don't forget he.
Speaker 6 (37:50):
Appointed the last attorney general, he appointed Rob Bonta to
that office. Robbonta is not a guy who's going to
go after Gavin Newsom or any of his misdeeds. That's
a political ally of his and he's.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Not going to bite the hand that feeds him.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
So for the most part, Gavin, if he was doing
something illegal, would get a pass at the local level.
Right now, the scandal involving his chief of staff could
theoretically hurt him because the chief of staff is someone
who's now looking it up to twenty years in prison.
And she is alleged to have stolen money from a
campaign account. She is alleged to have influenced the position
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of the state in a lawsuit that involved one of
her former clients. And she is someone who is not
well liked in Sacramento. She's a big, fat woman who
apparently has a drinking problem and is known to get
all juiced up on the sauce at night and start
dialing the phone and threatening everyone on behalf of the governor.
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I have talked to any number of people who have
received these late night phone calls from this woman, where
she just tells you how it's going to be, and
if you don't do.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
What she says, you're dead.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
To Gavin Newsom, well, who knows what she has done
or said in Gavin Newsom's name, Who knows if he
is aware.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Of any of this or all of this.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
It looks like it's a good cop bad cop thing
where she's the enforcer and then he's the good cop.
But when she was initially contacted by the FBI about
her alleged wrongdoing, her claim was that they told her
that she was not the target of the investigation, that
Gavin Newsom was the target of the investigation, and they
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thought she might have useful information. And what's particularly interesting
about this is this didn't happen in the Trump DOJ.
This happened in the Biden Harris DOJ. That's when this
investigation started. So whatever it was that they were looking into,
it started back when Grampy Joe and Kamala were running
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the show.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Now that is an interesting ricul. All right, switching gears
a little bit to here.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Money. Everyone knows that.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
I mean, it takes two billion dollars now to run
for freaking President's amazing the amount of money it takes.
And obviously Gavin Newsom can raise money. You don't get
to be California governor unless you can raise large amounts
of it.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Any raised two billion dollars.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
Yeah, yeah, he'll be able to raise the money if
he's the nominee. Any Democratic candidate absent Grampy Joe after
that first debate is going to have no problem raising
money in a primary. He's going to have access to
all of the dollars in Silicon Valley, all of the
dollars in Hollywood, all of the dollars from the public
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employee unions who he's given very generous contracts to over
the years. I don't think that's going to be a
problem for him. The problem for him is that the
Democratic Party is going to have to ask itself after
they nominated one California Liberal to be their nominee in
twenty twenty four, they.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Want to do that again.
Speaker 6 (41:02):
Are you prepared to nominate someone who has the same
political profile a second time in a row. Because usually
what the parties try to do is they try to
move in a different direction. You have someone that loses
for reasons X, Y and z. Okay, let's try to
fix that and find someone who doesn't have those problems
(41:22):
and has strengths that can make up for whatever it
was that we fell short on the last time. If
you're going with Gavin Newsom, you're saying, well, the reason
that Kamala lost was she had a very abbreviated campaign.
So let's just go ahead and double and triple down
on all of that on California excess and see if
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that works a second time. If I am the Democratic Party,
I look at that as being a suicidal position.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
But that assigns some amount of logic to the Democratic
voter right, because the truth is it's not going to
come from the top this time. You've got to win
voters in South Carolina and all these other states that
we're asking them to be logical, and if they were logical,
they wouldn't be Democrats.
Speaker 6 (42:09):
And I think that Gavin's play is that he's going
to try to say that he's the bridge within the
party because you have essentially one wing of partisan Democrats
and one wing of the DSA AOC types, and while
we don't see much difference between them within those circles.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
They do.
Speaker 6 (42:29):
And I think Gavin's move is going to be to say, look,
I can bring the party together for a mansion to
Mom Donnie, and I'm someone.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
That everyone can live with.
Speaker 6 (42:39):
I'm not going to give you one hundred percent of
what you want, but I'll give you enough of what.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
You want to make you happy.
Speaker 6 (42:45):
And when you look at who his competitors are likely
to be, you know he's got AOC on one side,
where if you're a partisan Democrat and you look at
the Socialists as someone you can't trust, then you're going
to have a problem with that Jewish Democrats, for example,
that look at the position that the DSA types have
on Israel as being irreconcilable. And then on the other side,
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you're going to have the Josh Shapiros of the world,
where certain segments of that party just will not vote
for a Jewish candidate under any circumstances. And Gavin doesn't
have any of those red flags on either side. And
I think that he believes that he can be the bridge.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
John.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
I am sure. We'll be discussing this again. Thank you,
my brother. We have so much more hang on. It's
never too early to look ahead. Obviously, we have to
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stay focused on things like local elections and midterms and
stuff like that, like we talked about in the opening.
But one looking ahead is fun. Two they're already looking ahead,
already making plans. Gavin Newsom has been making plans to
run for president since he came out of the womb.
He's going to run, He's going to raise a ton
of money. We don't know, neither of us that we
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don't know where the country's going to be mentally politically
in twenty twenty eight. It's not at all outside of
the realm of possibility that I don't even want to
say it, that he wins.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
It's not it can happen.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
There's a lot of day, a lot of ground to
cover between now and then, but we'll stay on it.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
See you again.
No thy enemy.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
So we're about to talk about Gavin Newsom, and I
know it seems like it's early.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
We still have midterms, right, we have all these local elections,
we have midterm elections. It's early. It is early.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
But he's preparing, shouldn't we That's the important thing to note.
Gavin Newsom. As much as I despise him as a
very capable politician who's wanted to run for president forever,
it's one of those guys. He's always wanted to be president.
He was crisscrossing the country years ago. Last election cycle,
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he was crisscrossing the country. And they're always selling it
as I'm doing a speaking tour or I'm campaigning for
someone else, but that's not what they're doing. You see,
they're bouncing around building the bones of what will be
a presidential campaign a few years from now. Galvin Newsom
is going to run. Galvin Newsom is going to raise
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a boatload of money. We have to be wary of
it we do, and what we should not do, and
what we're all tempted to do. I definitely am is
convince ourselves that the communists are.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Down and out, They're dead and gone, They're on the outs.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Now the culture has moved away from them, and they're
never going to win another election. That's just not the
kind of country we have right now. The reason we
have been blowing back and forth for quite a while
is American citizens in general are displeased with the state
(01:44):
of things. They think life is too expensive, too dirty.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
To.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Pick your way to describe it.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
But when the American people are unhappy, when any people
are unhappy and they have the opportunity to change their government,
they oftentimes do. And you and me we can scream
at them till we're blue in the face about well,
you don't change it back to the people who burn
it down, why would you give it? But that falls
on deaf ears, all the brain dead morons out there
(02:13):
who actually decide our elections. I'm talking about the people
who vote democratic cycle, the Republican next secon Well, I
don't like it, the back and forth and back and forth.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
These are the people who decide elections.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Where are we going to be in twenty twenty eight
I have no freaking idea, and neither do you. We
could be in the middle of a war, a recession,
in economic boom. Things might be great. I don't know
which brings us back to Gavenues. The man's running. Why
do you think he's out there talking about guns?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Other This is fabulous.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
You know what last thing people would expect is.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
That I respect this gift.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Really, I appreciate ye, man.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I'm not an anti gun at all. I'm for just
some gun say common sense that I think vast majority
of folks in the right and the left degree and
I think we lost a little touch with some common
sense around background checks.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
That's a good answer.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Well, I hate it, Okay, I hate it. I know
you hate it, and I know you're well aware.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
That's how the communist tries to sell what he does.
It's common sense. It's common sense.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
That's how they nibble around the edges of your gun
right so they can eventually disarm you and then throw
you in a gulag, which is really what they want
to do. I know that I got that, and you
got that. We understand each other on that. But for
the norm out there, for the normies, that's what they
want to hear. The sounds like a very common sense thing.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
It's capable. Do you remember remember remember.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
When they tried to butcher up Tim Walls it's a
natural reaction.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
I think it's one of the reasons we're losing so
many men. And again it's multi ethnic. It's not just
white men. We're losing them. We're lose in them to
these guys online. We're losing the people that I'm bringing
on this podcast as well. It's why I bring these
are bad guys though. These are the guys, but they exist,
and we could deny the exist. They exist. Not only
that they exist, they persist and they're actually influencing young kids
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every single day.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Some of those guys back under a rock.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
I think we have to first understand what their motivations are.
I think we have to understand what they're actually doing.
And I don't think that's acism and misogyny. I think
there's a lot of that, but I don't think it's
exclusively that. When you talk to a guy like Steve Bannon,
you know, he reminded me a little bit of my
grandfather when he talks about working folks.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I can't message that women shouldn't have.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
But I think if we say people are misogynists, then
we're falling prey. We're in that frame. Not everybody that
disagrees with us is a misogynist, even those that. But
I think this notion of I think it's this notion
of toxicity and masculinity needs to be separated. And I
think it's been conflated, and I think we we we
we're going to have to work on that.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
That's a good answer.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
You see Democrats hemorrhaged young men last election. Demographically, you
could argue that's the reason Donald Trump is in the
White House. When you look at how young men voted,
they hate the Democrat Party, and in large part because
the Democrat Party speaks the way Tim Wall spoke. There
aren't they all just sexist, they're stupid, they're all racist,
(05:23):
Just keep calling them names. Gavin Newsome now he feels
the same way, don't get me wrong, but he understands
that's how you're going to lose all of them. No
one's going to come vote for you if that's how
you speak to them. So he's just better at it.
And he's out there trying to rev up the Democrat
base because they're all a bunch of Trump deranged, insane
(05:44):
people who've been driven baddie by Trump for ten years,
and so he's telling them all that there won't be
an election.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Wake up you or lose your country again.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
It's not about Democrats or but.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
It's about all of us convinced.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
He I'm absolutely you've seen it.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
He's tried to steal the last election.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
He tried to race, trying to rig it.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
In plain sight, that's what Democrats want to hear. That's
what Democrats want to hear. You have to run as
a Democrat on fighting Trump at all times. Now, fighting
Trump now all that's the bad news. And we're gonna
get to some guests who talk about Gavin Newsom, guests
who know him quite well, people who are current or
(06:30):
formerly California residents. But the good news is this I had.
I want to thank Gavin Newsom actually for this. One
of my favorite things in politics is Democrat politicians.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Trying to win the black vote.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
You know, it just always creates these cringey, hilarious, kind
of racist moments. You have Joe Biden telling them that
the Republicans are going to put.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Him in chains.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
He had Hillary Clinton famously saying she cares these hot
sauce around in her purse. Gavin Newsome went on a
podcast with NBA guys and talked about shooting hoops and Wonderbread.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
All this anti woke stuff is just anti black period,
full stop. All the c R T, E, S, G
D E I stuff. That's all this is. It's this
great purge. But also, you know, it was also about
paying the bills, man, And it was just like hustling
and and so I was out there kind of raising myself,
turning on the TV started, you know, just getting obsessed,
(07:33):
you know, sitting there with the you know, the Wonderbread
and five stacks of.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Come on.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Every day, every day in the backyard, just bouncing the basketball,
throwing the ball against the wall, until it was just
like fraying.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Man.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Anyway, let's talk to Mike Slater about it.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
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Speaker 1 (08:58):
We'll be back. You were on the board and you
wanted to become mayor, and then you want to become governor.
Speaker 7 (09:14):
That didn't work, so then you want to become a
tenant governor and you know, I suspect you want to
be president one day.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Oh god, no, really so?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I mean, I you know, why do they all lie
about that? It's always so exhausting.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
They all do it. Republicans do it too. Nah, I
don't want to be president. I mean, do you want
me to be president? Joining me now? Host of the
Wonderful Politics by Faith podcast, someone who knows Gavin Newsom
quite well, Mike Slater, Mike, it's the line that gets me.
What's wrong with just saying, yeah, I'm an ambitious person,
I'm in politics.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I want to run for president.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Why do they all have to do the reluctant public
servant thing.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I find it exhausting.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Yeah, Gavin Newsom has wanted to run for president since
he was a poor black youth growing up on the
wrong side of the tracks in California. I think that's
what he was doing, Like this podcast the other day
with these NBA guys and he was like, oh, man, like,
I grew up so poor and I could barely afford food,
and I was like, my mom had to make my
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own clothes. He's like fanning this whole picture. That's the
other thing you got to You gotta do this like
reluctant George Washington thing where like I don't really want
to be and then you also got to do the ipoor.
I grew up poor and impoverished just like you. People.
Give me a break. Gavin Newsom is such a liar,
such a snake. Real quick background about Gavin Newsom for
(10:40):
when he does run, and to be clear, he's been
wanting to run his entire life. We'll get to that
in a second. But uh, Gavin Newsom tells a story
about how he grew up poor. His dad was and
I was trying. I was looking up before I got
out here. Jesse because I was thinking, was his dad
the lawyer for the Getty oil family or was his
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dad the financial advisor for the getting I forget which
one was. It turns out he was both. He was
the top lawyer and the heir or the whoever. I
don't even know what it's called, because I don't have
a billion dollar trust, but he was in charge of
all the financial trust for the Getty Oil billions and
billions of dollars. No one in history has been more
connected than ga a young Gavin Newsom. That's how he
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got his first job through Willy Brown, who was the
mayor of San Francisco, to he was appointed to the
Board of Supervisors of San Francisco, and then he became
the mayor, and then he went up to the lieutenant
governor and now he's the governor. And of course he
wants to be president. He's always wanted to be president.
But I think it's so rich that Gavin Newsom, who
just the other day was the only really American who
went to the big global warming conference in Brazil, like
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all the real countries in the world didn't even go,
but Gavin Newsom went to represent Americaca's trying the Trump administration.
There go, Gavin Newsom is rich and famous because of
oil because of the Getty oil family. But it's not
just Tim quicksidebar And then we'll get back to Gavin.
The previous governor before Gavin Newsom was Jerry Brown. His dad,
Pat Brown, was the governor of California late nineteen fifty
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eight to in the nineteen sixties. Pat Brown was actually
pretty good governor. That's why we have the UC system
and highways and nuclear power plants and water facilities. Liken
or Pat Brown built a lot. Pat Brown, after he
was governor, went to go work for the military dictatorship
led oil company in Indonesia, and he is the one
who hooked up this Indonesian oil company with all these
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oil contracts in California. So the reason Pat Brown, who
is like uber crazy environmentalists, when he was governor in California,
he got rich because of oil too. So the two
most recent governors of California, who are always on this
anti environmentals in crusade, both are just dripping in oil money.
I just thought you would like that story.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I did like that story a lot. Mike.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
This this Getty family tell me about that I keep
hearing about the Getty family, But people outside of California
haven't really heard of these people.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Who are they?
Speaker 5 (12:59):
What? Oh, it's yeah, Getty Oil. I mean they don't
fill their name around too much so much anymore, but
I mean they got tons and tons of money and
tons of connections. Gavin News's whole life is about connections
with the machine, the party machine, with the Pelosi's as well.
There's another party machine up in San Francisco. Think about this.
All the national politicians who have come out of California
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come out of San Francisco. They don't. The national politicians
don't come out of La They certainly don't come out
of San Diego, where I spend a long time. It's
way more cool and relaxing San Diego. They're all coming
out of this crazy party machine out of San Francisco.
Nancy Pelosi has been the leader of it more recently,
and the Getty's they're all up there in northern California
as well. So it's just money and connections, and it's
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about time that the people of America say enough of
San Francisco politicians, like we don't want any more of them,
thank you very much, they're total failures. Now. I think
the good news about San Francisco politicians, if I may,
is they're just not ready for prime time because they
never took the reps. We see it with Kamala She's
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kind of worked her way up the ranks of California
and then they put her on this national platform and
we're like, oh, wow, you're not capable of doing anything. Actually,
And I think Gavin Newsom's iOS and he's obviously more
capable than Kamala Harris, but he's still it's easy if
you're a Democrat and you work up the ranks in
the machine of San Francisco, like, that's easy. It's that's
small ball. That's that's soft pitch, softball, man like you,
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Gavin Newsom is playing like rec league softball in town,
and that is that's that's politics in California if you're
a Democrat. And then they put him in the major
leagues one day, and he goes in thinking he's like
tough stuff, like oh I got this, I'm hitting dangers,
no problem. And then he goes into the major leagues
and gets asked real questions and has to have real
accountability head to him in a real debate and he
looks like a total fool, and we got a little
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hinto that. It was like a couple years ago. I
remebe he did that debate with DeSantis and he got
totally smoked, And that's what it's going to be like
when he was for presidents. So I hope that the
American people pretty quickly see that Gavin Newsom is gonna
be pretty out of his league when he gets into
the national scene.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Mike, how many of his scandals? Because he's had scandals.
Of course, he's a sleeve ball, he's a politician anyway.
I mean, he's had affairs, he had all that COVID,
French laundry stuff. He's had scandals, there's no question. But
do they stain him nationally? I know Californians are aware
of them, certainly California Republicans are. But when he kicks
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off this run for president, what follows with him?
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Yeah, that's such a good question. I became really disillusioned
with California politics and one of the reasons we moved
after COVID. COVID was horrific in every way in California.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
It was ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
And you mentioned the French laundry, right, not only the
French laundry, as he was shutting down schools across the
entire country, forcing everyone to wear masks. His kids were
going to a private school that wasn't shut down. Okay,
so it's like, what are we doing here? He was recalled, right,
we did a recall effort, big, get the you know,
you gotta say the thing to get him to recall.
But then the people overwhelmingly voted to keep them. You're
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just like, oh my gosh, Like it was like hopeless.
And that's just the way it is in California's been
that way since nineteen ninety four. We can explain why
if you want, if you want to ask that later.
But I was thinking, man, is this gonna work? Like,
will the people of Iowa vote for this? Well? The
people will Democrats in Wisconsin vote for this guy? And
maybe it's not the COVID stuff that sticks. Unfortunately, you
and I agree that it definitely should. Like you should
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be disqualifying and they should be run out of like embarrassed,
constantly mocked and ridiculed and and and worse.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
I just think it's the result of everything in California,
just everything the homelessness, the incoming equality. I mean, it's
just a it's a bad place. There's total failure, the
open drug debts, the crime is out of control. I mean,
this is like where George Soros has his das like
crazy across California. I mean, like you name the issue.
(16:54):
We just recently it was the story about U see
San Diego and how you see San Diego, which is
one of the big UC schools, one of the big
impressive schools. They have so many kids in this school,
this college that are in remedial math all the way
down to first grade level remedial math first grade, don't
even know what a fraction is, and they're in the
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UC San Diego like one of the top U see schools.
It's like Berkeley, UCLA, U See San Diegoo is the
Big three. They don't even know fractions and they're in
U see San Diego, which is a total failure of
not only the UC system, but also the K through
twelve system. We can look at the amount of illegal
aliens that are in California. Twenty five percent of all
the illegal aliens in the country are in California, and
we see the consequences of that. So there's very little
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that the Gavenuez are can point to other than Silicon Valley.
It's the only reason why California is still somewhat afloat
is because of all the money that comes out of
you know, where he's from, with all the connections and
the money of Silic A Valley. But and that's got
to dry up eventually, and there's nothing else that he
can point to other than that. I don't I hope
the rest of the country won't be dazzled by the
money and his slickness out of Sanford Cisco, and instead
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we'll see the reality of what he's done to the state.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Mike, before you go tell me about the politics by
Faith podcast. I mean, I am well aware of it,
obviously I'm a fan, But tell everyone else.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
I appreciate it. Bro, thank you very much. We take
news of the day, we run it through a biblical
filter to try to make sense of it and what's happening.
It started off with years ago we were in a
time of a lot of anxiety. So it's like, hey man,
it's okay, there's nothing new under the sun. We can
get through this and hopefully everyone could be like, take
a breath and move forward with confidence. But now I
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feel pretty good about things politically. These things are happening
a little better, but we still look at everything through
the biblical context to try to make sense of what's happening.
If I could throw one for Gavin Newsom, Isaiah tend says,
woe to those who decree iniquitous decrees and turn aside
the needy from justice and rob the poor of my
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people of their right. There's no state that has more poverty.
There's no state that has more inequality. There's no state
that has worse education results. There's no state that has
more taxation. If Gavin Newsom wants to run in a
nation that the number one topic right now is affordability.
That's why Zorn won in New York City. He was
an out Zorn as an outsider so he could come
in to fix it. Gavin Newsen' is the ultimate insider.
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He's been there forever. What has he done to fix this?
What has he done to fix affordability? Nothing? He's done
in horrible things for this state, for California. He has
decreed many iniquitous decrees. Woe to him, and I hope
that people of America make him realize that soon.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I hope so too. Mike, Thank you, brother. Come back.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
We're going to talk to Ann Coulter next. I love chips.
I'm a chip man. Everybody knows that. That's well, that's
what I dig on is chips. And when I walk
into gas station now I actually can walk past the
chip aisle. And I never used to walk past the
chip aisle. Why because I have massive chips waiting for
(19:58):
me at home. When I first heard about massive chips,
I was told that they're healthy because they only have
three ingredients. Right, there's no seed oils. It's tallow and
salt and corn. You know what I heard when someone
said healthy, disgusting. No potato chips with three ingredients are
everything for me now because Vandy Crisps figured out how
(20:19):
to do them right. That's why you need to go
try a bag. In fact, I would try every flavor
they had. The smoke houses, like their barbecue, that's really
my jam.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I like the plain ones.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
My son freaks out over the ones that tastes like
Italian dressing.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
The freaking glorious.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Go get some Vandy Crisps at Vandycrisps dot com. Slash
Jesse TV freaking fantastic.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
I think there's a California derangement syndrome, and he's part
of it. I mean, I think people are obsessed with
focusing on what's wrong with the state and not what's
right with the state. I mean, you have more scientists, engineers,
more researchers, more Nobel laureates in the state than any
other state in the nation. We're the fourth largest economy
in the world four point one trillion dollars, with the
finest system of higher education that addresses the issue of
equity better than any other public education system in the world.
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We dominate in every category. Name it where the biggest
manufacturing state, the biggest farming state, ranchers and hunting jobs,
which is interesting. We dominate in AI and quantum and
fusion in every key category. The quality of life here consistently.
And you look at the top ten cities in the
United States of American consistently, the top five are identified
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in the state of California. And we invent the future.
It happens here first, where America has come in at traction.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Well, it sounds wonderful there it used to be. I
guess joining me now, my friend, the wonderful and culture
you really really need to be reading her substack and
culture dot substack dot com. And why is everybody leave
in California because it is well, it was paradise at
one point in time.
Speaker 8 (22:05):
Yes, it's funny. Pretty much everything he mentioned there makes
it sound oh fantastic. It's something he has he or really,
I suppose any government has nothing to do with. It's
also by far the largest state. Of course, it has
the most, the most nobel laureates. It has an extensive
university system. They have to go someplace. That doesn't mean
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the students know how to read, but they have the
most people. And if you have the most people, you're
gonna have the most of all of those things. How
about comparing it, you know, population to population point one
point two. Yeah, the weather's great, the mountains are beautiful,
the beaches are great. That's that wasn't the governor's doing.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
And you know, I know we're talking about NUSOM, but
it occurs to me that they do this to all
the most beautiful places. Oregon is maybe the most beautiful
state the country. These dirty comedy savages have ruined it Washington.
Same thing they do, the say they have Connecticut. People
don't know how beautiful Connecticut is. Whatever is beautiful, They're
like locusts. They come and just descend on it.
Speaker 8 (23:11):
Why yes, well, because it is beautiful, I think. I
think the question is more how all of these beautiful
places were built by conservatives, by Rockefeller, Carnegie, by oil barns.
And I think we're finding out a little bit more
than we have before. Any institution will be overtaken with
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leftists if given enough time. I mean consider a Ford Foundation,
Carnegie Foundation. And we got a good picture of how
so many of these institutions are taken over all the
Ivy League schools actually, I think all except mine Cornell
were founded as Christian institutions Dartmouth specifically to civilize the
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Indians into Christianity and excellent mission. Add but liberals are
sneaky and their idea is to worm their way into
these to these organizations. We also got a little view
into how they have so much money to be doing
(24:16):
things like what Antifa is doing with the US AID expose.
Oh my gosh, taxpayers are paying for a lot of
left wing agitating and nonsense.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Crime. Here was Kevin Newsome talking about crime.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
See what's happening there. We do see businesses moving out
for various reasons, but some of them saying they're concerned
about the crime in the area. When you see that
happening to your beloved city, what goes through your mind?
And do you think something's going wrong there?
Speaker 4 (24:46):
I think they're struggling to recover from the pandemic. They're
struggling to come back.
Speaker 9 (24:51):
They're struggling with the macroeconomic shifts, particularly as it relates
to telework, as it relates to what's the future of
a downtown. Is it's stacking of offices or stacking of people,
and they're in the process of rezoning, in rebirth and reimagination.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
By the way, I've seen that in sanman scoop for decades. Uh.
From one the hand thing really is it is? It
is odd. I know everybody talks about it too.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
And do people actually care that much about crime? I
mean they say they do, but it's still fifty to
fifty country Democrats are up in every generic ballot and
they're the open jail party.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Do people actually care about it?
Speaker 8 (25:27):
Yes, I'm not sure Republicans run on it quite enough.
And also, I mean, the crime is worse in very
small pockets places that are already run by very very
left wing, very left wing mayors, das and so on
and so forth. So I guess it's a little hard
to see in some of the election results. I think
it helps Trump quite a bit. But you did, Oh
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my gosh, that answer. I want to I want to
shoot them for this. This This is a big campaign
of the New York Times, and I guess all Democrats
to blame the Bakana all of violence that erupted and
really hasn't gone down with the BLM riots in twenty twenty.
Luckily for them, that was also the same year we
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had the pandemic. But as I've written about endlessly, you
can go back as I have and look at all
of the headlines and newspapers in the first in the
first month of the pandemic, right up until June first,
the day after the methamphetamine attic died in Minneapolis, and
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the big news was crime was going down, all over headlines,
Washington Post, New York Times, this is so great crime
at least, you know, making everybody stay home has whipped
the crime problem headline after headline after headline. And then, weirdly,
it was right after George Floyd died that suddenly the
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crime rate went up higher than it has ever gone
up in this country history. The second, the second biggest jump,
I think it was thirty percent. It went up. Second
biggest jump was in nineteen sixty eight, and I think
it went up by around twelve percent that time, a
gigantic jump in horrible violent crimes. This was entirely the
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liberals doing. They were the ones egging on black Black
Lives matter. It was leftist DA's not only not punishing,
not putting away these terrorists Antifa murdering people, just monstrous violence,
but rewarding them if a cop was a little too
rough with them. The liberal mayors of these towns would say,
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oh my gosh, you poor little Antifa here, Let's give
you a gigantic, multi million dollar award paid for by
the taxpayers, and then Antifa has more money to keep
destroying things. That's what has caused the crime. The George
Soros das, of course, they were the ones doing this.
It wasn't the pandemic. Besides the fact that we had
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six weeks of crime absolutely going down all over the country.
Because of the pandemic, crime is moinning in the opposite direction.
But weirdly, crime didn't go up in the entire rest
of the world for the rest of the pandemic. It
was just in this country where BLM struck and struck
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really hard.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
And how much should we worry about Gavin Newsom in
twenty twenty eight. I mean, I have such disdain for
him and everything he stands for anyway, and I find
him creepy and weird. But I'm never going to vote
for the Democrat. I'm not their target audience. Is he
somebody we should fear?
Speaker 5 (28:47):
I think so.
Speaker 8 (28:48):
I mean he's polling. He's the one in recent polls,
anyone anybody who's getting the majority of the Democratic vote,
And I think we should worry, not because of Newsom.
I'm with you. I think he seems very slick and oily.
But I don't know Democrats don't mind that. I think
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it's just that it will have been I don't know,
four years of Trump, and the country does tend to
go back and forth. People remember, remember the things they
don't like about the guy in power, and they can
always project, you know, sunshine and puppies on the guy
who hasn't held office yet. I find it hard to
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believe in my rational brain that someone who has done
to California what Governor Newsom has done to California, that
he could he could achieve higher office. But I don't
know what the country did elect Joe Biden sort.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Of, I guess kind of.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
And you're the best come back, all right, John Phillips lives.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Under got Newsom. I mean, I mean it lives in.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
California and whatever, we're gonna talk to John Phillips thanxt.
Speaker 10 (30:17):
It's clear that this governor has a vision for our country.
He has knowledge of our country and our state, the
state of California, the fourth largest economy in the world.
Gavin manages that way. That was with great dignity. He
has strategic thinking about how to get things done, and
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that is what has brought us together here. When this
opportunity occurred. Gavin had a plan. He's a man with
a plan, and that's what brings us here today.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
It's hard watching Grandma Vodka in these later years still
attempt to be functional. But either way, joining me now,
John Phillips, host of the Wonderful John Phillips Show. John,
let's start actually with those two. How far back did
those two go?
Speaker 6 (31:10):
They go back a long time, but they're not as
close as people think that they are necessarily. Nancy Pelosi
came from Leo McCarthy, who was the Speaker of the
California Assembly, the lieutenant governor, and Gavin Newsom came from
Willie Brown. So while they both come from San Francisco politics,
they were mentored and socialized into that world by different people.
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And so I know a lot of people say, well,
they're related by marriage. Well, yeah, that's kind of true.
One of Gavin's relatives married one of her husband's relatives,
but they're not as close as people necessarily think. The
point that she made there, though, is not go ahead, no,
go ahead, go ahead no. The point that she made
is not entirely accurate. She was referencing Prop fifty, which
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was California and you're redrawing the district lines and said
that Gavin Newsom was a man with a plan and
that couldn't be further from the truth. He got Nancy
Pelosi and the Congressional Democrats to sign on to him
going out and threatening to do something like this as
a bluff, and then he decided that he would turn
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it into an opportunity to go on a nationwide tour
going on all these podcasts where he engaged in all
of this bar talk where he talked about if Texas
does this, this is what we're going to do, so
back down now, and he got so deep into it
that they were boxed into a corner where they had
to move forward with Proposition fifty. She didn't want to
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do it. The Democrats in Congress didn't want to do it.
He forced them into it by running around the country
and running his mouth.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Okay, so Prop fifty explain to people what it is
and why wouldn't Nancy Pelosi want it?
Speaker 6 (33:01):
Well, that's a heavily jerrymannered map for California's congressional districts
that would benefit Democrats and probably draw out five Republicans.
They didn't want to do it because these people are
old and lazy. And if you're old and lazy and
you represented a congressional district for thirty years, are you
really want to get in your car and drive four
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hours to the outskirts of California to meet your new
constituents and learn new issues and get on different committees
and do all the things that they're now going to
have to do. With all of their new districts. They
didn't want to do that. What they wanted to do
is they wanted to put pressure on Texas to back down,
so there wouldn't be Republican gains in Texas, but they
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wouldn't have to work any harder.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
In California.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
Galvin Newsom, by doing what he did, forced their hand.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
So you say they kind of come from different trees,
It sounds like in California, are they enemies, frenemies?
Speaker 1 (34:02):
What are they?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Then?
Speaker 6 (34:06):
I don't necessarily know if i'd call them frenemies. Gavin
Knewsim and Kamala Harris are frenemies because they're They're of
the same age, and they came up around the same time,
and in theory they could pump into each other when
they would be competing for the same offices. Now they
made it a point to run for different offices, so
that never happened. Now they may run against each other
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for president. You're already starting to see that infighting going on.
But Nancy was already long established by the time that
Gavin came around. She never regarded him as a threat.
She regarded him as someone who could help her out
and do things for her. But she never regarded him
as someone who could was capable of taking her job
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or preventing her from doing whatever it is that she
wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Kamawa Dome if you will her in news you.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Mentioned them potentially running against each other in twenty twenty eight.
I have a theory, it's purely a theory that she's
going to skip this cycle because she's so tainted in
the minds of Democrat donors.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
I think it's going to be.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Very difficult for her to raise large amounts of money.
But it's just a theory. I don't know that.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
What say you, Well, the cold war between those two
has gone hot in certain ways. First of all, in
her book and I read this passage, so since I
saw the numbers and none of you else, nobody else did.
She talked about how when Joe dropped out of the
race and Obama and Pelosi and others wanted an open
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primary that would have benefited a candidate like Gavin, she
prevented that from happening by securing endorsements almost immediately, including
Joe Biden's. She said in the book that she called
Gavin Newsom to tell him about this, and that he
sent her to voicemail and never return the phone call.
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And it's not even just that that happened, it's that
it happened and she wanted to whack him about it,
so she put that passage in the book. You don't
have to put that in the book. She chose to
put that in the book. And then here in California
right now, we have a huge scandal going on that
involves the former chief of staff for Gavin Newsom and others,
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and many of them have already pled guilty. So we
know that people are going to go to jail and
they are going to be convicted over this, although the
chief of staff has not done that yet. She's said
that she is innocent and she's going to fight these charges.
But when that story broke, one of the first people
to spike the football on Gavin Newsom is a guy
by the name of Gil Duran, who is a former
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aide to Kamala Harris. So the Harris people are enjoying
the scandal because the scandal doesn't touch them. It's a
scandal that's associated with Gavin and Javier and Bessera, the
former Secretary Health and Human Services, and others. But if
they had such a great relationship. You probably wouldn't have
your people out there spiking the football and celebrating doing
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the end zone dance when your buddy is dealing with
the scandal.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
How scandalous is Newsom's past as it pertains to the
United States of America running for president. I mean, I
know in California there are a million micro scandals of his.
What's going to stain him when he tries to sell
himself in Wisconsin in a few years.
Speaker 6 (37:35):
Well, you have his record which is abysmal, So I
would start with that. In terms of scandal in California,
if you're a Democrat in good standing, it's hard to
really get caught in a scandal unless the FEDS catch you.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Because, don't forget he.
Speaker 6 (37:50):
Appointed the last attorney general, he appointed Rob Bonta to
that office. Robbonta is not a guy who's going to
go after Gavin Newsom or any of his misdeeds. That's
a political ally of his and he's.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Not going to bite the hand that feeds him.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
So for the most part, Gavin, if he was doing
something illegal, would get a pass at the local level.
Right now, the scandal involving his chief of staff could
theoretically hurt him because the chief of staff is someone
who's now looking it up to twenty years in prison.
And she is alleged to have stolen money from a
campaign account. She is alleged to have influenced the position
(38:30):
of the state in a lawsuit that involved one of
her former clients. And she is someone who is not
well liked in Sacramento. She's a big, fat woman who
apparently has a drinking problem and is known to get
all juiced up on the sauce at night and start
dialing the phone and threatening everyone on behalf of the governor.
(38:53):
I have talked to any number of people who have
received these late night phone calls from this woman, where
she just tells you how it's going to be, and
if you don't do.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
What she says, you're dead.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
To Gavin Newsom, well, who knows what she has done
or said in Gavin Newsom's name, Who knows if he
is aware.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Of any of this or all of this.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
It looks like it's a good cop bad cop thing
where she's the enforcer and then he's the good cop.
But when she was initially contacted by the FBI about
her alleged wrongdoing, her claim was that they told her
that she was not the target of the investigation, that
Gavin Newsom was the target of the investigation, and they
(39:35):
thought she might have useful information. And what's particularly interesting
about this is this didn't happen in the Trump DOJ.
This happened in the Biden Harris DOJ. That's when this
investigation started. So whatever it was that they were looking into,
it started back when Grampy Joe and Kamala were running
(39:57):
the show.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Now that is an interesting ricul. All right, switching gears
a little bit to here.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Money. Everyone knows that.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
I mean, it takes two billion dollars now to run
for freaking President's amazing the amount of money it takes.
And obviously Gavin Newsom can raise money. You don't get
to be California governor unless you can raise large amounts
of it.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Any raised two billion dollars.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
Yeah, yeah, he'll be able to raise the money if
he's the nominee. Any Democratic candidate absent Grampy Joe after
that first debate is going to have no problem raising
money in a primary. He's going to have access to
all of the dollars in Silicon Valley, all of the
dollars in Hollywood, all of the dollars from the public
(40:40):
employee unions who he's given very generous contracts to over
the years. I don't think that's going to be a
problem for him. The problem for him is that the
Democratic Party is going to have to ask itself after
they nominated one California Liberal to be their nominee in
twenty twenty four, they.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Want to do that again.
Speaker 6 (41:02):
Are you prepared to nominate someone who has the same
political profile a second time in a row. Because usually
what the parties try to do is they try to
move in a different direction. You have someone that loses
for reasons X, Y and z. Okay, let's try to
fix that and find someone who doesn't have those problems
(41:22):
and has strengths that can make up for whatever it
was that we fell short on the last time. If
you're going with Gavin Newsom, you're saying, well, the reason
that Kamala lost was she had a very abbreviated campaign.
So let's just go ahead and double and triple down
on all of that on California excess and see if
(41:43):
that works a second time. If I am the Democratic Party,
I look at that as being a suicidal position.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
But that assigns some amount of logic to the Democratic
voter right, because the truth is it's not going to
come from the top this time. You've got to win
voters in South Carolina and all these other states that
we're asking them to be logical, and if they were logical,
they wouldn't be Democrats.
Speaker 6 (42:09):
And I think that Gavin's play is that he's going
to try to say that he's the bridge within the
party because you have essentially one wing of partisan Democrats
and one wing of the DSA AOC types, and while
we don't see much difference between them within those circles.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
They do.
Speaker 6 (42:29):
And I think Gavin's move is going to be to say, look,
I can bring the party together for a mansion to
Mom Donnie, and I'm someone.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
That everyone can live with.
Speaker 6 (42:39):
I'm not going to give you one hundred percent of
what you want, but I'll give you enough of what.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
You want to make you happy.
Speaker 6 (42:45):
And when you look at who his competitors are likely
to be, you know he's got AOC on one side,
where if you're a partisan Democrat and you look at
the Socialists as someone you can't trust, then you're going
to have a problem with that Jewish Democrats, for example,
that look at the position that the DSA types have
on Israel as being irreconcilable. And then on the other side,
(43:08):
you're going to have the Josh Shapiros of the world,
where certain segments of that party just will not vote
for a Jewish candidate under any circumstances. And Gavin doesn't
have any of those red flags on either side. And
I think that he believes that he can be the bridge.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
John.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
I am sure. We'll be discussing this again. Thank you,
my brother. We have so much more hang on. It's
never too early to look ahead. Obviously, we have to
(43:49):
stay focused on things like local elections and midterms and
stuff like that, like we talked about in the opening.
But one looking ahead is fun. Two they're already looking ahead,
already making plans. Gavin Newsom has been making plans to
run for president since he came out of the womb.
He's going to run, He's going to raise a ton
of money. We don't know, neither of us that we
(44:12):
don't know where the country's going to be mentally politically
in twenty twenty eight. It's not at all outside of
the realm of possibility that I don't even want to
say it, that he wins.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
It's not it can happen.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
There's a lot of day, a lot of ground to
cover between now and then, but we'll stay on it.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
See you again.
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