November 26, 2025 • 44 mins
Pam Bondi just suffered another loss in the courts with the cases against James Comey and Letitia James getting dismissed. What does the appeals process look like and will Bondi even get a second chance? This comes as rumors fly that early resignations could cost Republicans their House majority sooner than you think. Jesse Kelly breaks all that down with Professor William A. Jacobson and Steve Deace.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Let's talk about the midterms, the ups, the downs. We had,
the case against James Cale, me dismissed, we have Steve Days,
Bill Jacobson, what a show tonight, And I'm right, let's
have an uncomfortable conversation, or it might be a comfortable conversation,
(00:24):
I guess, depending on how you interpret it. But let's
talk about where we're at right now as a movement
on the right, what we're looking at and the midterms
and why. Let's just break this down. So, something that's
been a big bit of news that's been making the
rounds is the retirement, the resignation, if you will, of
Marjorie Taylor Green, congress woman from Georgia. She's resigning in January,
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walking away. All right, that's one story. Not gonna focus
on that specifically, but there are reports out there, punch
bowl news, saying there will be more resignations coming soon.
I will tell you on a personal level, I had
an exchange, a text exchange with a congressman last week,
(01:10):
and it started out with him texting me three words,
what forwards? Four words? I hated here. What you said
sounded very much like a man who wanted to walk away,
wanted to retire, and this guy's one of the good ones.
Wanted to walk away. I wanted to retire. Okay, we
(01:31):
only have a slim majority after Marjorie Taylor Green walks away.
It's going to be about three seats if we get
too many resignations that Democrats may have the House of
Representatives before the midterms. All right, all right, so this
is bad, and we'll come back to the bad for
in a moment. But let's pause for a moment. Right now.
I'm getting this impression and I'm going through this as well,
(01:55):
that we're pretty down right now on the right. We're
down on things. We're down on the way things are
going on, what's been done, what hasn't been done. We're
going to lose the midterms. We're gonna get crushed. We're
pretty down on things. And as we're about to discuss,
we may get crushed in the midterms. But do keep
this in mind in politics. I've been in politics for
(02:16):
twenty years. I mean interested in politics in twenty years.
I was just a fan for most of my time.
But I pay attention the same way you pay attention
in politics. It matters, so we care a lot. That's
why you're into it, right, That's why you're sitting here
watching me on. I'm right. That's why I consume the
news the same way you do. The stuff matters. It's
(02:36):
important for the direction of our country, for the country
we're going to leave behind. It's important. And because it's important,
we get emotional about it. And because we get emotional
about it, we tend to go through highs that are
too high and lows that are too low. Because we care, right,
we care. You Ever you ever been in a relationship,
(02:59):
especially lyon boyfriend girlfriend, you know that he doesn't call
to the end of the world. You had one good date.
We're gonna get married and be married for sixty years.
This is how we are. That's how I am. When
it comes to politics. When Donald Trump wins an election
and we have the House and we have the Senate
and we got some good political pointees coming in, we
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say to ourselves, my goodness, we are saved. We're gonna
be great forever. Democrats are never coming back to power.
Life is good. We've won final victory. And then we
have a rough couple months, and I fully admit it's
been a rough couple of months. We have a rough
couple months. It's over. We're don the country's over. I'm
moving to Portugal. Not that anyone would ever do such
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a thing. Just remember, like we've talked about before, be
careful with your highs and be careful with your lows.
In politics. Now, let's talk about the low we are
currently in. It's rough. It's been rough, and the House
GOP has not helped itself. And Trump Google gets Trump
(04:04):
in a few but the House GOP has not helped itself.
Times have changed, and there is always a lag in Washington,
DC understanding how you feel because they're in a bubble.
There's always a signal lag where you all your friends
you feel this way, you feel strongly about something, but
(04:26):
the message hasn't gotten through to them. And this is
something the Republican Party had better get on top of
the American people, specifically, the American right will set aside
the communists. The American right they want things done, tangible
things done. It's not just prices we want down. We
want corrupt government people arrested. We want this done. We
want that done. Not more speeches whenever we get some
(04:49):
committee hearing where it's some GOP congressman, some senator puts
a great SoundBite out there, really gets them. You know what,
I don't hardly get anymore. I don't hardly get emails saying, yeah,
did you see senator? What's his face? Kill him? What
I get is, why are we getting another hearing? Why
are we doing something? Do something? Are you gonna do anything?
That's what you feel like, That's what I feel like.
(05:11):
But there's a signal lag. You see right now? The
right is down. We want tangible things done. We want
government people thrown into prison, we want deportations, we want
prices down, we want things done. The House GOP did.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
This, just showing this from the hill right now. This
is a measure to condemn socialism. The vote is still
being tabulated, but of note, the four leading Democrats in
the House voted with Republicans to condemn socialism.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
What what with everything going on? Are palpable anger our
demands that somebody does something tangible? The House GOP passes
a resolution to condemn socialism. You want to talk about
(06:12):
signal lag. Maybe they thought they were gonna get a
pad on the back some applause for that. I've never
seen the right so angry. We're not impressed. I'm not impressed.
It's been a down couple months and that GOP doesn't
seem to figure out how to fix itself. So let
(06:34):
me explain why things are down right now for the GOP,
and let me explain how it has to be turned around.
Things are down for really two huge reasons. The huge
reasons are this. First, the Epstein stuff was message really poorly.
It's not that the average everyday voter cares about the
(06:56):
Epstein stuff. I'm not talking about the Normanis. We'll get
to them in a moment. Set the normies stuff aside.
The Trump coalition is large, it's very diverse, all kinds
of different interests, sport hawks and make America healthy again,
hawks and all kinds of stuff. There are many different
parts of the coalition, but almost all of the parts
(07:16):
want wealthy, powerful pedophiles exposed. Right, And maybe that's in
the files, maybe it's not. We don't know. I don't
know that it's been kept from us. But it looked
really bad when Trump decided to come out and say
shut up and stop talking about it. That was terrible messaging, terrible.
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The Epstein stuff from the Pambondi binders that didn't have
anything new in them to Trump yelling at everyone to
shut up about it looked bad. It it deflated the right,
It deflated the base. It looked bad. That hurt now
with normies. Normies don't focus on Epstein. Norman's are out
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there today. Maybe you were doing this. I'll tell you
what I did this before I came in. Maybe you
were out there buying Thanksgiving supplies. Today, normies can't afford food.
They can't afford the power bill. I decided to replace
an air conditioning in my home a little while ago.
It was nine thousand dollars to replace an air conditioning.
(08:21):
People can't can't afford to live. If you're wondering why
Democrats currently have the largest lead they've had on the
generic ballot since twoy seventeen, it's not actually because of
Epstein's stuff. It's because people can't afford things now, and
Trump was elected into the White House because life had
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become unaffordable. Now, if you're saying it's unfair to expect
him to fix that in a year, I totally agree,
totally agree. I'm not laying that at his feet, but
people are not going to be satisfied at their kitchen
table because of resolutions against socialists them. Prices have to
come back down. Me you, we remember what it was
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like four or five years ago when prices weren't like this,
when we could afford more things. We remember. It's just
like yesterday. We remember. So they're still up. We're still
not happy. That's why the White House, to their credit,
is starting to message things like this. I think twenty
twenty six, thanks to President Trump's signature plans, is going
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to be a great year for working Americans.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
For the market, it's going to be an absolute blockbuster
year ahead. And one of the signals you just mentioned
the job support that was double the expectation, the blowout
job support. We've got GDP now for the last two
quarters almost four percent on average, maybe even a little
bit above. And we're going to have a little bit
of a hiccup in the fourth quarter because of the
(09:51):
silly shutdown, but then things are really lifting.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Things better be looking up right now. The American people
don't feel that telling them help is on the way.
Jobs are coming. That works, but they better get here
because that's really going to go to how we go
with the midterms. If people still feel down about jobs,
about the economy, about about inflation a year from now,
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next November. We're going to get our teeth kicked in.
Now back to the right. Remember when Pam Bondi came
out James Comy stuff. Remember she said this.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
People have to be held accountable. No one Sean is
above the law. No one is above the law. And
you will be held accountable. And you know, a very
liberal grand jury and one of the most liberal jurisdictions
in the country just indicted James Comy. Now we know,
of course we have to go to trial. We'll have
a great trial team and everyone, of course is innocent
(10:52):
until proven guilty. However, we are going to trial in
this case. And this is just the beginning.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, Judge just dismissed it. Judge, one of these comedy
judges just dismissed the James Comy stuff, the Letitia James stuff.
And I know Pam Bondy she went to the cameras
after this what she said, We'll be.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Taking all available legal action, including an immediate appeal, to
hold Letitia James and James Comey accountable for their unlawful conduct.
I'm going to keep going on this. I'm not you know,
I'm not worried about someone who has been charged with
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a very serious crime. His alleged actions were a betrayal
of public trust.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Doesn't exactly fill you up with confidence that those two
criminals are going to burn. So let's just have it out.
A significant portion of the Trump coalition voted for Trump
in part, not majorly, but in part because we wanted
to see powerful people finally go down for their crimes.
(12:11):
Now maybe we can make all the excuses in the world.
This was a Clinton judge. It was this jurisdiction. But
all that stuff may be totally justified and we're getting
to get into the details of it with Bill Jacobson
in a moment. But just like the vote to condemn socialism,
we don't want more press conferences. We don't need more
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Fox News hits. Those are fine, but it has to
be followed up with tangible things. I know there's a
DC to US signal lag, So everyone in DC watching
right now, please hear my words. We need tangible things now.
The days of emails, of these stupid text messages you
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send us all I need help putting James, come me away.
Send fifteen dollars. I heard of it, and you're gonna
deflate the base so badly that we're gonna sit at
home in November. I mean, I know you won't. I won't,
but lots of it will. Well, you have got to
get this turned around. It's a down period of time.
(13:15):
Not saying it's going to last forever, but we do
have to turn it around. All that may have made
you uncomfortable, but I am right. The great Bill Jacobson
is going to join us in a moment to discuss
the ins and out. It's the legal stuff of all this. Look,
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Speaker 6 (14:29):
I'm grateful that the court ended the case against me,
which was a prosecution based on malevolence and incompetence and
a reflection of what the Department of Justice has become
under Donald Trump, which is heartbreaking. But I was also
inspired by the example of the career people who refuse
to be part of this travesty. This case mattered to
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me personally, obviously, but it matters most because a message
has to be sent that the President of the United
States cannot use the Department of Justice to target his
political enemies.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Well, the message was most definitely sent, but I'm not
sure that was the one joining me now. Bill Jacobson,
founder of Legal Insurrection, law professor at Cornell. Bill, the
message the base received is that nobody in power is
ever going to be held to account. Ever, everybody's got
the vapors today. It's the end of the world. Now,
maybe it is the end of the world, maybe it's not.
But I'm guessing you have a little bit more detail
(15:26):
than that. The floor is yours.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
What happened well, nothing akin to what James Comey just
said happens. Okay, this was not a ruling on the
merits that he did nothing wrong. There's not a ruling
that the president engaged in a vindictive prosecution. None of
those things happened. This was an interpretation of a statute
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by a district court judge, which will of course be appealed,
which said that the prosecutor who conducted the grand jury
and approved the indictment were presented the end opment had
not been properly appointed pursuant to a statute for filling
vacancies in US attorney offices. And that's how the judge
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read the statute. I believe the judge is wrong. I
don't think it will ultimately hold up if the Department
of Justice goes the appellate route. But that's all that happened,
was this prosecutor properly appointed. Judge found no under a
reading of the statute that I think is strained has
to do with where you're unable. Where there is a
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vacancy in a US attorney's office the Department of Justice,
the president can appoint an interim US attorney. That was done.
That appointment is good for only one hundred and twenty days,
and it then falls to the district court judges, believe
it or not, to either continue that person or appoint
a new attorney general, a not attorney general, a US
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attorney that was done that this attorney appointed on an
interim basis by the judges resigned. So Trump made another
interim appointment. This judge says, you can't do that. He says,
you only get one shot at an interim appointment. That's
not what the statute says. That's the way she read
the statute. Fairly convoluted discussion of that, and I don't
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think it holds up. And so that's really what this
is about, is how are you going to read the statute?
Once there was a vacancy, could Trump then make a
second interim appointment? That's all this was about. Now it
has huge implications because it gives someone like Comy a
platform to opine that he's an innocent victim of the
big bad Donald Trump, even though historically it's just the opposite.
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Trump was the victim of Comy. And now it could
go on appeal. It raises another legal question, which is
now that the indictment has been dismissed with what they
call without prejudice, so it could be brought again. Are
they within this statute of limitations for Comy, which at
this point has run out, And there's a question whether
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if you reindict it goes back to the original time period.
So a whole lot of legal messes, none of it
has to do with James Comy being vindicated in any way.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
How's all this apply to Leticia James because she also
apparently got to go off scott free. She just waddled away.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
Same underlying issue, except there's no statute of limitations problems,
so there's really nothing to prevent at this point the
Department of Justice from reindicting her, which presumably they will do.
And you know, they have a decision to make. Do
they try to go that road, try to reindict using
a different attorney in the US Attorney's office, or do
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they simply appeal it to win that victory. And that's
just a procedural, strategic decision they will have to make.
But Leticia James should be reindictable. James call me is reindictable.
But there's a question of how the dismissal of this
indictment interacts with the Statute of Limitations. I think the
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government's okay there, but you never know, as we just
found out.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Okay, let's talk more broadly about judges, because Judge Boseburg
comes up all the time. It's becoming pretty obvious, at
least to me, that we're not gonna be able to
get true justice in this country unless we get some
of these judges off the bench. But before we get
to that, which apparently we're never going to get, can
the Supreme Court step in and do something else? Like
John Roberts, can he do something well?
Speaker 7 (19:39):
I think the Supreme Court can step in. I believe
they are have an inherent power to reassign a case.
I don't know if they've ever exercised that, but I
think that would be an inherent power that they have.
They could remove a judge from a case. I don't
think the Supreme Court has the power to remove a
judge Federal court judge from the judiciary, but there are
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various things. They could step in and reassign a case
to a different district, to a different judge. So I
think there's a number of things, but that's a case
by case basis. I think the bigger question that you're
getting to is we seem to have an out of
control district court level judiciary.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Not all of them.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
By any means, but a lot of these. We're in
the multiple dozens of cases that the US Supreme Court
has had to step in and stay or put a
hold on injunctions issued by district court judges. This is
really unprecedented, should be a rare occurrence, but I think
we're up to about thirty plus by this point, and
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that's all they've been doing is temporarily halting what these
judges are doing. But you read a lot of these decisions,
and they're really political manifestos. In many cases, they all
seem to start or many seem to start with an introduction,
which is essentially a stump speech, and then they get
to the law. And we've seen that over and over again.
Some of them seem to have a taken personal umbrage
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at the fact that litigans like the US government oppose
what they're doing and appeal what they're doing. And Judge
Boseburg is the perfect example. He seems to be on
a personal vendetta against the Department of Justice. He is
reinvigorating even though parts of it have already been put
on hold by the Supreme Court. He's reinvigorating his attempt
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to hold the Department of Justice in contempt of court
based upon remember there was it seems like a decade ago,
but it was only a few months ago where he
ordered them to turn around a plane in mid flight
that was had some illegal alien on it they were
trying to deport. And he's still trying to hold them
in contempt even though the Supreme courts put a stop
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to it, as as the Appellate Court. He seems to
be on a personal mission. This is really a problem.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
You know.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
We give life tenure to district court judges to make
them independent of the other branches, and that's generally speaking
a good thing, but it presents a problem when you
have a judge who goes rogue and becomes personally invested
in winning the case for himself. And that's really what
I think we're seeing in Judge Bosberg. But there's no
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easy way to deal with it. There really is no
easy way to deal with it.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Pain Bill as always, thank you, sir, I appreciate you.
I have a happy Thanksgiving. It's gonna take time, all right,
it's gonna take time. We can't get the justice we
need until the judges are gone right now. We don't
have a gop with the numbers or the stomach to
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Speaker 4 (23:38):
We will find out who you are and we will
come after you. Domestic terrorists, foreign terrist you better look
out because we're coming after you.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
And if you've committed fraud, we're coming after you. You
better watch out because we're coming after you.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Let me be very clear, if you don't comply with
federal law, you're gonna be next.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Let this be a warning. You can run, but you
cannot hot justice is coming.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Big talk that doesn't get delivered on very similar to
the Michigan Wolverines. Joining me now, Steve Day's host of
The Steve Days Show. Steve, I mean, I don't know
which disappointment we want to talk about first, Michigan or Pam.
It's really the floor is yours.
Speaker 8 (24:22):
But listen, brother, I know it's been about twenty and
ninety four days since you all have beaten us, but
who's counting apparently I am.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Listen.
Speaker 8 (24:32):
Pam has been just she's just been a colossal disappointment.
And if you knew Pam Bondi's political arc before disappointment,
you would not be surprised. She's largely spent much of
her time in the Republican Party's more establishment side, more
romney side of things, and I think it just kind
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of figured out there's a lot of Republicans in the
last few years, Jesse that have cynically figured out that
if they genuflect to the personality of Trump on a
few things, they can advance their careers beyond what their
worldview stated. They deserve sort of a reverse Peter principle.
If you will, you rise to the level of your
own slurpage. And she's she's indicative of that. Now, my
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hope is, you know when they brought Andrew Bailey in
underneath her a few months ago, that they were setting
him up to take her place. Andrew Bailey is the
former attorney general at Missouri, did a great job there.
He's the one that got I believe, got to Anthony
Fauci under oath in that incredible deposition. I'd urge every
member of your audience to go back and read from
a couple of years ago. He has to be an
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upgrade just by the process of osmosis. I mean, he
doesn't have to even be good at this, you know.
But the current meme going around of Pam Bondi and
it says I seriously thought about arresting somebody recently is
a pretty good summation of what the entire year of
this doj from her to Cash as cash as FBI
really just to me the biggest disappointment of this year,
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and I don't even think there's a close second.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Steve, I've heard the same rumor as Brianna Morello and
others reporting that Andrew Bailey maybe maybe bouncing her out,
which would be just fine from me, honestly. While I'm
really down on her in the DOJ in general, that
at least should tell us that the Trump administration is
sensing that we need tangibles. Right. We don't need another
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press conference, we don't need another resolution condemning socialism. The
writer is had just about enough of that. Someone better
be in an orange jumpsuit.
Speaker 8 (26:33):
I don't disagree. I mean, and I think you know
there's a there's a there's a tension here, brother, in
that you know clearly from the way that that Trump
laid down Markers right after the election. I mean, go
back to election night. If anybody could have taken you know,
an obnoxious victory lap, it's they literally tried to murder
the guy after they tried to put him in prison,
and he beat him anyway, and instead on election iight
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really did not make it about himself at all. He
talked about RFK Junior and the people he wanted to
appoint and what he wanted to do for the country
in sharp contrast to his first term. You remember, the
first big fight we had in his first term was
over whether more people came to his inaugural than Barack Obama's,
and then they and then he came right out with
a serious policy agenda and acting on it uh executively,
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again in sharp contrast to the first term. I think
clearly he wanted to he wanted to demonstrate. Listen, I
learned some lessons. I'm ready to govern, I'm ready to lead.
And I think particularly the first six months of this
first year were really really strong because of that prep
and what was the what were some of the what
was the other big criticism of the first term, the
revolving door of people in and out. Remember remember Anthony
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Scaramucci and Amrosa when they were a thing for ten minutes, right,
And so I think that, you know, especially for a
high profile position like like ag you don't want to
make it look like, you know, I'm throwing that person
out right away the first time they disappoint me. And
then that narrative again that you know, we're kind of
unsettled and don't know what they're doing. But I mean,
I at this point, I'll just I got to be
honest with you, Jesse. I just think cash Betel's lying
(27:58):
to me every time he talks either comission or ow mission,
like every single time, okay, is body language like on
every statement is terrible. Pambondi's inaction has been terrible. And
I think now everybody those two guys, those two people
have gotten almost an entire calendar year. I can't believe
there's anybody who thinks that they have not been disappointments.
I think I would just move on.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Okay, Steve, Now, obviously I'm feeling what you're saying. Everyone
watching is feeling what you're saying. Let me try to
attempt this. Are we asking too much? Meaning even Pambondi,
who I'm not a fan of, what she's supposed to
do about the fact that a communist judge was installed
and tossed it. You know that all these all these
systemic what a great word, systemic things have been put
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into place to make stopping the system. Changing the system
maybe not impossible, but slow and very very difficult. And
maybe after a year, are we getting too impatient too fast.
Speaker 8 (28:56):
I think that's not a case by case basis, because
you're right, there is a systemic problem here. But to me,
this woman's credibility was hit the two minute warning in February,
which you took a lot of our brightest influencers and
basically provoke them to tarnish their own credibility with the
stupid binders of the Epstein files, and the whole thing's
been just downhill from there going How many times she
(29:19):
go on Fox News in the in the nights prior
to that event back in February to say they're on
my desk right now, I'm examining them right now. The
target that's a target rich environment of people that could
be arrested and maybe arrested so that you don't have
to go through a Trump or a Democrat appointed judge
or a DC court. How about you know, how about
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you know the FBI is under her purview as well.
You have you had these heroic whistleblowers like my friend
Steven friend that we were told on August twenty seventh,
we're all getting reinstated, and now there's been no further
action or announcement on that whatsoever. I mean there's just
been too much dishonesty and too much incompetence that I
think that you know, you've reached a point of the
minut wishing returns here, and if anything, maybe you have
(30:02):
set a successor up to be successful in light of
the systemic challenges we face with the swamp, Like you
just said, because the current rate of accomplishment is so low,
I think you've just got to cut and run. I
think if she were a stockman, you got a pump
and dump. You got to move on. I mean, this
just isn't going to work. You can't go into another
calendar year with.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Us, Okay, Steve, everyone right. The midterms are starting to
be on people's minds right now because we're a year
away and the general feeling is, I mean, Trump has
basically said it himself that we are going to get
our teeth kicked in in the midterms. Generic ballot looks bad,
prices are still too high, all the stuff that's true.
(30:39):
Can we change that? Can we reverse it? Can it
be done? Is it possible? It is? Now?
Speaker 8 (30:45):
There are only certain limitings, so there's only certain factors
we control here, all right, And you know you can
lose the generic ballot four five points and still get
close to a stalemate provided you hold on to the
Balkanized parts of the country that are in your face.
And this goes back to the conversation we just had,
you know, for our people, if we're not going to
be able to deliver for them massive economic results, and
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you think of you know, Reagan faced a similar malays
when he came in in eighty and he had massacred
in the nineteen eighty two midterms, then turned around the
economy finally began to feel his changes, his paradigm shifts,
and he had a historic landslide in eighty four. We
can't afford that now because if we get massacred next year,
much of the Trump presidency is over. Trump will be
in facing impeachment every day. The cabinet appointments we love
(31:30):
the most, hegseth rfk Junior, all those people, they're all
facing impeachment inquiries every single day. Much of the domestic agenda,
whatever you think, whatever you think should have, is too slow.
It grinds to a complete halt if we lose. So
we have to control what we can control. What we
need is our base max lit. We need them Max unified.
We need them the max turnout because you're right, we
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really can't ultimately determine everything about the economy that will
change swing and normy voters. Where we get massacred is
when we're plus five on the generic ballot. And then
you see what happened to win some sears, what happened
to win some seers. Third largest county in Virginia, loud
In County, Virginia, Jesse. She only got sixty two percent
of the people in that county that voted for Trump
in twenty twenty. Her Democrat opponent got eighty four percent.
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That was the whole election right there. We have to
turn out our base. If we cannot deliver mass economic records,
then the other stuff our base cares about the most transparency, accountability,
election reform, that's the stuff we have to deliver on
so that our base that because what happens is our
base looks at that and says, we're already gonna lose anyway.
So screw these guys. They didn't get me what we want.
(32:34):
I'm staying home and Trump's not on the ballot anyway.
And that's how the entire nation begins to look like
the winsome sears race that cannot happen. We have to
control what we can control. What we can control is
delivering on some of these things I just mentioned, transparency, accountability,
election reform. Delivering on those things for our people, and
then ultimately you do whatever you can with the economic messaging.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
If Trump is not on the ballot, which he's not
going to be on the ballot, not in twenty eight,
not in twenty six. If Trump's not on the ballot,
do we have what it takes to motivate our base
or is our base just used to voting for Trump?
But that is what it is now.
Speaker 8 (33:13):
That's why again, these issues are so important. These issues
are like proxies for Trump. These are not issues the
Republican Party cared about ever prior to the ascendancy of Trump.
So the issues of accountability, all right, Transparency, these are issues,
election reform, these issues are unique to Trump as a brand.
They're the closest we get to getting Trump on the
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ballot is to be strong on these issues. And we
can't just say, well, if you elect us again, we'll
get them done when you had the votes to get
it done this time. We need a record of accomplishment
on those issues so that Trump can then go out
all over the country next year and sell our people
on Hey, we delivered on those fronts. You know, he
is a symbol of disruption. Those issues are are are
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manifestations of the disruption he's a symbol of. And so
it's the since we get because if we don't deliver
on those you end up with you end up with
the other factor, which is not Trump, not on the ballot,
but the other side is still driven by him to
show up in mass and then our side is depressed
in result, and that's how you end up with a massacre.
So we have to deliver on those three issues because
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they're proxy issues for Trump and his political brand.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Steve, thank you, my friend. I appreciate it. Oh, I owe.
I did that right as he was getting cut off,
so we couldn't respond. Wasn't that a dirty move? Whatever.
I'll send him some massive chips he'll feel better. I
wonder if Steve's tried massive chips. We tried them. It's
really weird to me that there is a chip that's
(34:43):
better than are all the chips in the grocery store,
and it's also better for you that doesn't make sense.
That's not the way it's supposed to work. Things that
are good for you are supposed to be disgusting, like vegetables.
Massive Chips has three ingredients. Go look at the back
of the bag. Look at the ingredients on the bags
of chips you have in the pantry is bad. That's
(35:05):
why you feel disgusting and bloated and miserable afterwards. Massive Chips,
you sit there, wipe out a whole bag. Three ingredients, porn, salt, tallow.
Try them. You'll feel better about yourself, You'll be healthier,
and you don't have to give up eating chips, all
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(35:27):
be back. Thanksgiving is here. I'm excited, but I wanted
to remind you. This is your yearly reminder that turkey sucks.
You're not under any obligation to serve a gigantic, dried
out bird on Thanksgiving. There's a reason you don't eat
turkey any other day of the year. That you don't
(35:50):
have to act like it's special. We can stop pretending.
But there is something that is special. Would you like
to know how to make it? Here? It is Hey,
now it is time because it's Thanksgiving season, It's time
for a little homemade tutorial on Jesse Kelly's world famous
burgers with me. Of course, Jesse Kelly, I felt the
(36:14):
need to do this. I felt an obligation to do
this because of how many people are going to eat
turkey this Thanksgiving. Ditch the turkey, have Jesse Kelly burgers.
Everyone will thank you for it. Nobody's going to be
eating these burgers and saying, oh my gosh, what I'm
really craving is dry meat. So just do this right,
let's begin. First of all, everything everything when it comes
(36:37):
to cooking, involves high quality ingredients. So make sure you
spend the money get the best ground beef you can find. Okay,
boom there. Now, maybe you're sitting there wondering why the
black gloves is Jesse. Is he going to help clean
out Pete Boudha Jeedge's office after he leaves. No. I
(37:00):
wear these black gloves. One because it cuts down on
the mess. But mostly every time I watch one of
these videos of people cooking, they wear these black gloves
and they look really cool, so kind of like Michael Jackson,
but of age. So first, of all Burger's in there
seasoning salt. I just use lowries or whatever I happen
to have. You don't have to stress the general seasoning salt.
(37:23):
Just a little sprinkle, a little sprinkle. Don't over season
these with the seasoning salt. I've done it before. You
get them way too salty and you just get absolutely
dried out. Little garlic powder again, just a little a
little dust, a little dusting, a garlic powder. And then,
of course, as I've said many times before, the star
(37:43):
of the show, Chipotle Tabasco sauce, not Tabasco sauce, which
is gross. Chipotle Tabasco sauce. This is the star of
the show. Now be generous with it. Don't be whining
about heat. Most of the heat cooks off. I do
want to stress that it's most of the heat cooks off.
(38:04):
If you're one of these sensitive people Gingers Canadians, you
can't handle any kind of a heat, then you might
get a little extra spice. But for those of us
normal people, you should have just the appropriate amount of spices. Now,
now's when the black gloves really come in handy. Now
we miss so obviously you know how to mix up
(38:25):
furger it's not very difficult, but make sure you mix
it up extremely, extremely, extremely well, because otherwise you're gonna
get a bite of nothing but Chipotle Tabasco sauce, and
that might be a little overwhelming for you, especially, as
I said, if you're a ginger or some weird creak
like that. All right, now it's mixed up. It's mixed
(38:45):
up pretty good. Now. Obviously you just grab roughly quarter
pound balls, because this is a pound of burger, so
quarter pound balls don't make any jokes. And there's that.
Burgers are done.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
Now.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Everyone knows a good burger. It's a thin burger, right,
But I don't completely thin out my burger as it
is now. In fact, if we have like a party
or something I have to go to and I have
to make a bunch of these, I'll just have just
a bunch of these in there, just a bunch of
balls sitting in there, so I'll flatten them out a little.
(39:24):
If I don't have to have a tub full of balls,
flatten them out just a little. Just get yourself started
on a little bit of shape. This is obviously not
flat enough for a good burger, but it's a start.
And now it's ingredients time. Obviously, you just saw me
prep the burgers. I got that. You want to use
your high end plates cheese, This is an American cheese endeavor.
(39:49):
Let freedom ring baby. Don't use your fancy cheeses. Good
cheeseburgers need American cheese. Then the buns.
Speaker 7 (39:59):
The buns are more.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Than just a delivery vehicle for the burger in the cheese.
They're a critical part of the burger. So don't walk
up in the grocery store and just grab a pack
of buns. You have to finger the buns to make
sure the buns are appropriate. One, get the buns from
the back of the shelf. Everyone knows they put They
put the older ones at the fronts. They want you
to buy them. Two, take the time, finger the buns.
(40:23):
Make sure you have good buns. Now, you can use
a flat top on your grill, and you can use
a frying pan on your grill, but remember these things
have to be done on a flat surface of some kind,
not a grill. You don't want to lose your burger juice.
If you're wondering why is that pan looked dirty? Because
(40:43):
I made bacon this morning. And if you really want
to level these things up. Leave a little of your
bacon grease in there like I did, and now I'll
be frying up burgers in my bacon grease. Not only
good but good for you. All Right, now, it's time
to get the done. Get your burger. Get it over, uh,
(41:05):
medium heat, I would say medium heat. You don't want
it hotter than that. In fact that she probably.
Speaker 9 (41:10):
She's starting to smoke a little wist whom she's down.
Speaker 10 (41:13):
Now.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Remember, a good burger is a flatburger. That's probably two lauds.
A good burger is a flatburger. So you want to
smash that thing down real good and flatten it out.
See it in the bacon grease right there.
Speaker 9 (41:32):
Oh, let me go. Burger is nice and flat burger
looks like Kansas.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Now, splatter is a problem. The wife usually gets mad.
A little splatter guard on there. Let it sit for
just a minute or so.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
All right, she's.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Probably ready for the flip eyeball. It definitely ready for
the flip.
Speaker 6 (42:03):
Flip.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Now the second you flip it, get that American.
Speaker 10 (42:07):
Cheese on their because American cheese must be melted. Burger
cheese must be melted. I cannot believe these savages who
serve their burgers with the cheese unmelted?
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Is that right about now?
Speaker 10 (42:19):
You're probably thinking, Okay, you have your high end place,
you have your finger funds, Jesse, what about on the.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Kitchen and mustard and mayo and lettuce and tomatoes?
Speaker 10 (42:28):
Remember world famous Jesse tullyburgers are world famous for a reason.
They don't need anything. No condiments, no vegetables, no nothing.
You don't need any of that. And look how fast
that American cheese goes to work. Boom Burger is thuned
burger is scoup burger is fun. That is ready to
(42:53):
enjoy you will.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
All right? All right, we'll lighten the mood next. All right,
it's time to lighten the mood. And just got back
from New York City, went out to dinner with producer
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Let's talk about the midterms, the ups, the downs. We had,
the case against James Cale, me dismissed, we have Steve Days,
Bill Jacobson, what a show tonight, And I'm right, let's
have an uncomfortable conversation, or it might be a comfortable conversation,
(00:24):
I guess, depending on how you interpret it. But let's
talk about where we're at right now as a movement
on the right, what we're looking at and the midterms
and why. Let's just break this down. So, something that's
been a big bit of news that's been making the
rounds is the retirement, the resignation, if you will, of
Marjorie Taylor Green, congress woman from Georgia. She's resigning in January,
(00:48):
walking away. All right, that's one story. Not gonna focus
on that specifically, but there are reports out there, punch
bowl news, saying there will be more resignations coming soon.
I will tell you on a personal level, I had
an exchange, a text exchange with a congressman last week,
(01:10):
and it started out with him texting me three words,
what forwards? Four words? I hated here. What you said
sounded very much like a man who wanted to walk away,
wanted to retire, and this guy's one of the good ones.
Wanted to walk away. I wanted to retire. Okay, we
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only have a slim majority after Marjorie Taylor Green walks away.
It's going to be about three seats if we get
too many resignations that Democrats may have the House of
Representatives before the midterms. All right, all right, so this
is bad, and we'll come back to the bad for
in a moment. But let's pause for a moment. Right now.
I'm getting this impression and I'm going through this as well,
(01:55):
that we're pretty down right now on the right. We're
down on things. We're down on the way things are
going on, what's been done, what hasn't been done. We're
going to lose the midterms. We're gonna get crushed. We're
pretty down on things. And as we're about to discuss,
we may get crushed in the midterms. But do keep
this in mind in politics. I've been in politics for
(02:16):
twenty years. I mean interested in politics in twenty years.
I was just a fan for most of my time.
But I pay attention the same way you pay attention
in politics. It matters, so we care a lot. That's
why you're into it, right, That's why you're sitting here
watching me on. I'm right. That's why I consume the
news the same way you do. The stuff matters. It's
(02:36):
important for the direction of our country, for the country
we're going to leave behind. It's important. And because it's important,
we get emotional about it. And because we get emotional
about it, we tend to go through highs that are
too high and lows that are too low. Because we care, right,
we care. You Ever you ever been in a relationship,
(02:59):
especially lyon boyfriend girlfriend, you know that he doesn't call
to the end of the world. You had one good date.
We're gonna get married and be married for sixty years.
This is how we are. That's how I am. When
it comes to politics. When Donald Trump wins an election
and we have the House and we have the Senate
and we got some good political pointees coming in, we
(03:20):
say to ourselves, my goodness, we are saved. We're gonna
be great forever. Democrats are never coming back to power.
Life is good. We've won final victory. And then we
have a rough couple months, and I fully admit it's
been a rough couple of months. We have a rough
couple months. It's over. We're don the country's over. I'm
moving to Portugal. Not that anyone would ever do such
(03:42):
a thing. Just remember, like we've talked about before, be
careful with your highs and be careful with your lows.
In politics. Now, let's talk about the low we are
currently in. It's rough. It's been rough, and the House
GOP has not helped itself. And Trump Google gets Trump
(04:04):
in a few but the House GOP has not helped itself.
Times have changed, and there is always a lag in Washington,
DC understanding how you feel because they're in a bubble.
There's always a signal lag where you all your friends
you feel this way, you feel strongly about something, but
(04:26):
the message hasn't gotten through to them. And this is
something the Republican Party had better get on top of
the American people, specifically, the American right will set aside
the communists. The American right they want things done, tangible
things done. It's not just prices we want down. We
want corrupt government people arrested. We want this done. We
want that done. Not more speeches whenever we get some
(04:49):
committee hearing where it's some GOP congressman, some senator puts
a great SoundBite out there, really gets them. You know what,
I don't hardly get anymore. I don't hardly get emails saying, yeah,
did you see senator? What's his face? Kill him? What
I get is, why are we getting another hearing? Why
are we doing something? Do something? Are you gonna do anything?
That's what you feel like, That's what I feel like.
(05:11):
But there's a signal lag. You see right now? The
right is down. We want tangible things done. We want
government people thrown into prison, we want deportations, we want
prices down, we want things done. The House GOP did.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
This, just showing this from the hill right now. This
is a measure to condemn socialism. The vote is still
being tabulated, but of note, the four leading Democrats in
the House voted with Republicans to condemn socialism.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
What what with everything going on? Are palpable anger our
demands that somebody does something tangible? The House GOP passes
a resolution to condemn socialism. You want to talk about
(06:12):
signal lag. Maybe they thought they were gonna get a
pad on the back some applause for that. I've never
seen the right so angry. We're not impressed. I'm not impressed.
It's been a down couple months and that GOP doesn't
seem to figure out how to fix itself. So let
(06:34):
me explain why things are down right now for the GOP,
and let me explain how it has to be turned around.
Things are down for really two huge reasons. The huge
reasons are this. First, the Epstein stuff was message really poorly.
It's not that the average everyday voter cares about the
(06:56):
Epstein stuff. I'm not talking about the Normanis. We'll get
to them in a moment. Set the normies stuff aside.
The Trump coalition is large, it's very diverse, all kinds
of different interests, sport hawks and make America healthy again,
hawks and all kinds of stuff. There are many different
parts of the coalition, but almost all of the parts
(07:16):
want wealthy, powerful pedophiles exposed. Right, And maybe that's in
the files, maybe it's not. We don't know. I don't
know that it's been kept from us. But it looked
really bad when Trump decided to come out and say
shut up and stop talking about it. That was terrible messaging, terrible.
(07:37):
The Epstein stuff from the Pambondi binders that didn't have
anything new in them to Trump yelling at everyone to
shut up about it looked bad. It it deflated the right,
It deflated the base. It looked bad. That hurt now
with normies. Normies don't focus on Epstein. Norman's are out
(08:01):
there today. Maybe you were doing this. I'll tell you
what I did this before I came in. Maybe you
were out there buying Thanksgiving supplies. Today, normies can't afford food.
They can't afford the power bill. I decided to replace
an air conditioning in my home a little while ago.
It was nine thousand dollars to replace an air conditioning.
(08:21):
People can't can't afford to live. If you're wondering why
Democrats currently have the largest lead they've had on the
generic ballot since twoy seventeen, it's not actually because of
Epstein's stuff. It's because people can't afford things now, and
Trump was elected into the White House because life had
(08:42):
become unaffordable. Now, if you're saying it's unfair to expect
him to fix that in a year, I totally agree,
totally agree. I'm not laying that at his feet, but
people are not going to be satisfied at their kitchen
table because of resolutions against socialists them. Prices have to
come back down. Me you, we remember what it was
(09:06):
like four or five years ago when prices weren't like this,
when we could afford more things. We remember. It's just
like yesterday. We remember. So they're still up. We're still
not happy. That's why the White House, to their credit,
is starting to message things like this. I think twenty
twenty six, thanks to President Trump's signature plans, is going
(09:28):
to be a great year for working Americans.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
For the market, it's going to be an absolute blockbuster
year ahead. And one of the signals you just mentioned
the job support that was double the expectation, the blowout
job support. We've got GDP now for the last two
quarters almost four percent on average, maybe even a little
bit above. And we're going to have a little bit
of a hiccup in the fourth quarter because of the
(09:51):
silly shutdown, but then things are really lifting.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Things better be looking up right now. The American people
don't feel that telling them help is on the way.
Jobs are coming. That works, but they better get here
because that's really going to go to how we go
with the midterms. If people still feel down about jobs,
about the economy, about about inflation a year from now,
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next November. We're going to get our teeth kicked in.
Now back to the right. Remember when Pam Bondi came
out James Comy stuff. Remember she said this.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
People have to be held accountable. No one Sean is
above the law. No one is above the law. And
you will be held accountable. And you know, a very
liberal grand jury and one of the most liberal jurisdictions
in the country just indicted James Comy. Now we know,
of course we have to go to trial. We'll have
a great trial team and everyone, of course is innocent
(10:52):
until proven guilty. However, we are going to trial in
this case. And this is just the beginning.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, Judge just dismissed it. Judge, one of these comedy
judges just dismissed the James Comy stuff, the Letitia James stuff.
And I know Pam Bondy she went to the cameras
after this what she said, We'll be.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Taking all available legal action, including an immediate appeal, to
hold Letitia James and James Comey accountable for their unlawful conduct.
I'm going to keep going on this. I'm not you know,
I'm not worried about someone who has been charged with
(11:36):
a very serious crime. His alleged actions were a betrayal
of public trust.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Doesn't exactly fill you up with confidence that those two
criminals are going to burn. So let's just have it out.
A significant portion of the Trump coalition voted for Trump
in part, not majorly, but in part because we wanted
to see powerful people finally go down for their crimes.
(12:11):
Now maybe we can make all the excuses in the world.
This was a Clinton judge. It was this jurisdiction. But
all that stuff may be totally justified and we're getting
to get into the details of it with Bill Jacobson
in a moment. But just like the vote to condemn socialism,
we don't want more press conferences. We don't need more
(12:32):
Fox News hits. Those are fine, but it has to
be followed up with tangible things. I know there's a
DC to US signal lag, So everyone in DC watching
right now, please hear my words. We need tangible things now.
The days of emails, of these stupid text messages you
(12:54):
send us all I need help putting James, come me away.
Send fifteen dollars. I heard of it, and you're gonna
deflate the base so badly that we're gonna sit at
home in November. I mean, I know you won't. I won't,
but lots of it will. Well, you have got to
get this turned around. It's a down period of time.
(13:15):
Not saying it's going to last forever, but we do
have to turn it around. All that may have made
you uncomfortable, but I am right. The great Bill Jacobson
is going to join us in a moment to discuss
the ins and out. It's the legal stuff of all this. Look,
at least you can sleep good every night, up or down.
You can sleep good. You got yourself some dream powder yet,
(13:39):
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I wanted to watch a Christmas movie with the boys.
That either way, it was right before bed. You know
what kind of hot chocolate I had? Dream powder from
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(14:00):
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Speaker 6 (14:29):
I'm grateful that the court ended the case against me,
which was a prosecution based on malevolence and incompetence and
a reflection of what the Department of Justice has become
under Donald Trump, which is heartbreaking. But I was also
inspired by the example of the career people who refuse
to be part of this travesty. This case mattered to
(14:49):
me personally, obviously, but it matters most because a message
has to be sent that the President of the United
States cannot use the Department of Justice to target his
political enemies.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Well, the message was most definitely sent, but I'm not
sure that was the one joining me now. Bill Jacobson,
founder of Legal Insurrection, law professor at Cornell. Bill, the
message the base received is that nobody in power is
ever going to be held to account. Ever, everybody's got
the vapors today. It's the end of the world. Now,
maybe it is the end of the world, maybe it's not.
But I'm guessing you have a little bit more detail
(15:26):
than that. The floor is yours.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
What happened well, nothing akin to what James Comey just
said happens. Okay, this was not a ruling on the
merits that he did nothing wrong. There's not a ruling
that the president engaged in a vindictive prosecution. None of
those things happened. This was an interpretation of a statute
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by a district court judge, which will of course be appealed,
which said that the prosecutor who conducted the grand jury
and approved the indictment were presented the end opment had
not been properly appointed pursuant to a statute for filling
vacancies in US attorney offices. And that's how the judge
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read the statute. I believe the judge is wrong. I
don't think it will ultimately hold up if the Department
of Justice goes the appellate route. But that's all that happened,
was this prosecutor properly appointed. Judge found no under a
reading of the statute that I think is strained has
to do with where you're unable. Where there is a
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vacancy in a US attorney's office the Department of Justice,
the president can appoint an interim US attorney. That was done.
That appointment is good for only one hundred and twenty days,
and it then falls to the district court judges, believe
it or not, to either continue that person or appoint
a new attorney general, a not attorney general, a US
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attorney that was done that this attorney appointed on an
interim basis by the judges resigned. So Trump made another
interim appointment. This judge says, you can't do that. He says,
you only get one shot at an interim appointment. That's
not what the statute says. That's the way she read
the statute. Fairly convoluted discussion of that, and I don't
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think it holds up. And so that's really what this
is about, is how are you going to read the statute?
Once there was a vacancy, could Trump then make a
second interim appointment? That's all this was about. Now it
has huge implications because it gives someone like Comy a
platform to opine that he's an innocent victim of the
big bad Donald Trump, even though historically it's just the opposite.
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Trump was the victim of Comy. And now it could
go on appeal. It raises another legal question, which is
now that the indictment has been dismissed with what they
call without prejudice, so it could be brought again. Are
they within this statute of limitations for Comy, which at
this point has run out, And there's a question whether
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if you reindict it goes back to the original time period.
So a whole lot of legal messes, none of it
has to do with James Comy being vindicated in any way.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
How's all this apply to Leticia James because she also
apparently got to go off scott free. She just waddled away.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
Same underlying issue, except there's no statute of limitations problems,
so there's really nothing to prevent at this point the
Department of Justice from reindicting her, which presumably they will do.
And you know, they have a decision to make. Do
they try to go that road, try to reindict using
a different attorney in the US Attorney's office, or do
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they simply appeal it to win that victory. And that's
just a procedural, strategic decision they will have to make.
But Leticia James should be reindictable. James call me is reindictable.
But there's a question of how the dismissal of this
indictment interacts with the Statute of Limitations. I think the
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government's okay there, but you never know, as we just
found out.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Okay, let's talk more broadly about judges, because Judge Boseburg
comes up all the time. It's becoming pretty obvious, at
least to me, that we're not gonna be able to
get true justice in this country unless we get some
of these judges off the bench. But before we get
to that, which apparently we're never going to get, can
the Supreme Court step in and do something else? Like
John Roberts, can he do something well?
Speaker 7 (19:39):
I think the Supreme Court can step in. I believe
they are have an inherent power to reassign a case.
I don't know if they've ever exercised that, but I
think that would be an inherent power that they have.
They could remove a judge from a case. I don't
think the Supreme Court has the power to remove a
judge Federal court judge from the judiciary, but there are
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various things. They could step in and reassign a case
to a different district, to a different judge. So I
think there's a number of things, but that's a case
by case basis. I think the bigger question that you're
getting to is we seem to have an out of
control district court level judiciary.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Not all of them.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
By any means, but a lot of these. We're in
the multiple dozens of cases that the US Supreme Court
has had to step in and stay or put a
hold on injunctions issued by district court judges. This is
really unprecedented, should be a rare occurrence, but I think
we're up to about thirty plus by this point, and
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that's all they've been doing is temporarily halting what these
judges are doing. But you read a lot of these decisions,
and they're really political manifestos. In many cases, they all
seem to start or many seem to start with an introduction,
which is essentially a stump speech, and then they get
to the law. And we've seen that over and over again.
Some of them seem to have a taken personal umbrage
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at the fact that litigans like the US government oppose
what they're doing and appeal what they're doing. And Judge
Boseburg is the perfect example. He seems to be on
a personal vendetta against the Department of Justice. He is
reinvigorating even though parts of it have already been put
on hold by the Supreme Court. He's reinvigorating his attempt
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to hold the Department of Justice in contempt of court
based upon remember there was it seems like a decade ago,
but it was only a few months ago where he
ordered them to turn around a plane in mid flight
that was had some illegal alien on it they were
trying to deport. And he's still trying to hold them
in contempt even though the Supreme courts put a stop
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to it, as as the Appellate Court. He seems to
be on a personal mission. This is really a problem.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
You know.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
We give life tenure to district court judges to make
them independent of the other branches, and that's generally speaking
a good thing, but it presents a problem when you
have a judge who goes rogue and becomes personally invested
in winning the case for himself. And that's really what
I think we're seeing in Judge Bosberg. But there's no
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easy way to deal with it. There really is no
easy way to deal with it.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Pain Bill as always, thank you, sir, I appreciate you.
I have a happy Thanksgiving. It's gonna take time, all right,
it's gonna take time. We can't get the justice we
need until the judges are gone right now. We don't
have a gop with the numbers or the stomach to
get the judges gone. Keeps slogging away. If you don't
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Speaker 4 (23:38):
We will find out who you are and we will
come after you. Domestic terrorists, foreign terrist you better look
out because we're coming after you.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
And if you've committed fraud, we're coming after you. You
better watch out because we're coming after you.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Let me be very clear, if you don't comply with
federal law, you're gonna be next.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Let this be a warning. You can run, but you
cannot hot justice is coming.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Big talk that doesn't get delivered on very similar to
the Michigan Wolverines. Joining me now, Steve Day's host of
The Steve Days Show. Steve, I mean, I don't know
which disappointment we want to talk about first, Michigan or Pam.
It's really the floor is yours.
Speaker 8 (24:22):
But listen, brother, I know it's been about twenty and
ninety four days since you all have beaten us, but
who's counting apparently I am.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Listen.
Speaker 8 (24:32):
Pam has been just she's just been a colossal disappointment.
And if you knew Pam Bondi's political arc before disappointment,
you would not be surprised. She's largely spent much of
her time in the Republican Party's more establishment side, more
romney side of things, and I think it just kind
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of figured out there's a lot of Republicans in the
last few years, Jesse that have cynically figured out that
if they genuflect to the personality of Trump on a
few things, they can advance their careers beyond what their
worldview stated. They deserve sort of a reverse Peter principle.
If you will, you rise to the level of your
own slurpage. And she's she's indicative of that. Now, my
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hope is, you know when they brought Andrew Bailey in
underneath her a few months ago, that they were setting
him up to take her place. Andrew Bailey is the
former attorney general at Missouri, did a great job there.
He's the one that got I believe, got to Anthony
Fauci under oath in that incredible deposition. I'd urge every
member of your audience to go back and read from
a couple of years ago. He has to be an
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upgrade just by the process of osmosis. I mean, he
doesn't have to even be good at this, you know.
But the current meme going around of Pam Bondi and
it says I seriously thought about arresting somebody recently is
a pretty good summation of what the entire year of
this doj from her to Cash as cash as FBI
really just to me the biggest disappointment of this year,
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and I don't even think there's a close second.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Steve, I've heard the same rumor as Brianna Morello and
others reporting that Andrew Bailey maybe maybe bouncing her out,
which would be just fine from me, honestly. While I'm
really down on her in the DOJ in general, that
at least should tell us that the Trump administration is
sensing that we need tangibles. Right. We don't need another
(26:24):
press conference, we don't need another resolution condemning socialism. The
writer is had just about enough of that. Someone better
be in an orange jumpsuit.
Speaker 8 (26:33):
I don't disagree. I mean, and I think you know
there's a there's a there's a tension here, brother, in
that you know clearly from the way that that Trump
laid down Markers right after the election. I mean, go
back to election night. If anybody could have taken you know,
an obnoxious victory lap, it's they literally tried to murder
the guy after they tried to put him in prison,
and he beat him anyway, and instead on election iight
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really did not make it about himself at all. He
talked about RFK Junior and the people he wanted to
appoint and what he wanted to do for the country
in sharp contrast to his first term. You remember, the
first big fight we had in his first term was
over whether more people came to his inaugural than Barack Obama's,
and then they and then he came right out with
a serious policy agenda and acting on it uh executively,
(27:16):
again in sharp contrast to the first term. I think
clearly he wanted to he wanted to demonstrate. Listen, I
learned some lessons. I'm ready to govern, I'm ready to lead.
And I think particularly the first six months of this
first year were really really strong because of that prep
and what was the what were some of the what
was the other big criticism of the first term, the
revolving door of people in and out. Remember remember Anthony
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Scaramucci and Amrosa when they were a thing for ten minutes, right,
And so I think that, you know, especially for a
high profile position like like ag you don't want to
make it look like, you know, I'm throwing that person
out right away the first time they disappoint me. And
then that narrative again that you know, we're kind of
unsettled and don't know what they're doing. But I mean,
I at this point, I'll just I got to be
honest with you, Jesse. I just think cash Betel's lying
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to me every time he talks either comission or ow mission,
like every single time, okay, is body language like on
every statement is terrible. Pambondi's inaction has been terrible. And
I think now everybody those two guys, those two people
have gotten almost an entire calendar year. I can't believe
there's anybody who thinks that they have not been disappointments.
I think I would just move on.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Okay, Steve, Now, obviously I'm feeling what you're saying. Everyone
watching is feeling what you're saying. Let me try to
attempt this. Are we asking too much? Meaning even Pambondi,
who I'm not a fan of, what she's supposed to
do about the fact that a communist judge was installed
and tossed it. You know that all these all these
systemic what a great word, systemic things have been put
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into place to make stopping the system. Changing the system
maybe not impossible, but slow and very very difficult. And
maybe after a year, are we getting too impatient too fast.
Speaker 8 (28:56):
I think that's not a case by case basis, because
you're right, there is a systemic problem here. But to me,
this woman's credibility was hit the two minute warning in February,
which you took a lot of our brightest influencers and
basically provoke them to tarnish their own credibility with the
stupid binders of the Epstein files, and the whole thing's
been just downhill from there going How many times she
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go on Fox News in the in the nights prior
to that event back in February to say they're on
my desk right now, I'm examining them right now. The
target that's a target rich environment of people that could
be arrested and maybe arrested so that you don't have
to go through a Trump or a Democrat appointed judge
or a DC court. How about you know, how about
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you know the FBI is under her purview as well.
You have you had these heroic whistleblowers like my friend
Steven friend that we were told on August twenty seventh,
we're all getting reinstated, and now there's been no further
action or announcement on that whatsoever. I mean there's just
been too much dishonesty and too much incompetence that I
think that you know, you've reached a point of the
minut wishing returns here, and if anything, maybe you have
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set a successor up to be successful in light of
the systemic challenges we face with the swamp, Like you
just said, because the current rate of accomplishment is so low,
I think you've just got to cut and run. I
think if she were a stockman, you got a pump
and dump. You got to move on. I mean, this
just isn't going to work. You can't go into another
calendar year with.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Us, Okay, Steve, everyone right. The midterms are starting to
be on people's minds right now because we're a year
away and the general feeling is, I mean, Trump has
basically said it himself that we are going to get
our teeth kicked in in the midterms. Generic ballot looks bad,
prices are still too high, all the stuff that's true.
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Can we change that? Can we reverse it? Can it
be done? Is it possible? It is? Now?
Speaker 8 (30:45):
There are only certain limitings, so there's only certain factors
we control here, all right, And you know you can
lose the generic ballot four five points and still get
close to a stalemate provided you hold on to the
Balkanized parts of the country that are in your face.
And this goes back to the conversation we just had,
you know, for our people, if we're not going to
be able to deliver for them massive economic results, and
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you think of you know, Reagan faced a similar malays
when he came in in eighty and he had massacred
in the nineteen eighty two midterms, then turned around the
economy finally began to feel his changes, his paradigm shifts,
and he had a historic landslide in eighty four. We
can't afford that now because if we get massacred next year,
much of the Trump presidency is over. Trump will be
in facing impeachment every day. The cabinet appointments we love
(31:30):
the most, hegseth rfk Junior, all those people, they're all
facing impeachment inquiries every single day. Much of the domestic agenda,
whatever you think, whatever you think should have, is too slow.
It grinds to a complete halt if we lose. So
we have to control what we can control. What we
need is our base max lit. We need them Max unified.
We need them the max turnout because you're right, we
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really can't ultimately determine everything about the economy that will
change swing and normy voters. Where we get massacred is
when we're plus five on the generic ballot. And then
you see what happened to win some sears, what happened
to win some seers. Third largest county in Virginia, loud
In County, Virginia, Jesse. She only got sixty two percent
of the people in that county that voted for Trump
in twenty twenty. Her Democrat opponent got eighty four percent.
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That was the whole election right there. We have to
turn out our base. If we cannot deliver mass economic records,
then the other stuff our base cares about the most transparency, accountability,
election reform, that's the stuff we have to deliver on
so that our base that because what happens is our
base looks at that and says, we're already gonna lose anyway.
So screw these guys. They didn't get me what we want.
(32:34):
I'm staying home and Trump's not on the ballot anyway.
And that's how the entire nation begins to look like
the winsome sears race that cannot happen. We have to
control what we can control. What we can control is
delivering on some of these things I just mentioned, transparency, accountability,
election reform. Delivering on those things for our people, and
then ultimately you do whatever you can with the economic messaging.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
If Trump is not on the ballot, which he's not
going to be on the ballot, not in twenty eight,
not in twenty six. If Trump's not on the ballot,
do we have what it takes to motivate our base
or is our base just used to voting for Trump?
But that is what it is now.
Speaker 8 (33:13):
That's why again, these issues are so important. These issues
are like proxies for Trump. These are not issues the
Republican Party cared about ever prior to the ascendancy of Trump.
So the issues of accountability, all right, Transparency, these are issues,
election reform, these issues are unique to Trump as a brand.
They're the closest we get to getting Trump on the
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ballot is to be strong on these issues. And we
can't just say, well, if you elect us again, we'll
get them done when you had the votes to get
it done this time. We need a record of accomplishment
on those issues so that Trump can then go out
all over the country next year and sell our people
on Hey, we delivered on those fronts. You know, he
is a symbol of disruption. Those issues are are are
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manifestations of the disruption he's a symbol of. And so
it's the since we get because if we don't deliver
on those you end up with you end up with
the other factor, which is not Trump, not on the ballot,
but the other side is still driven by him to
show up in mass and then our side is depressed
in result, and that's how you end up with a massacre.
So we have to deliver on those three issues because
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they're proxy issues for Trump and his political brand.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Steve, thank you, my friend. I appreciate it. Oh, I owe.
I did that right as he was getting cut off,
so we couldn't respond. Wasn't that a dirty move? Whatever.
I'll send him some massive chips he'll feel better. I
wonder if Steve's tried massive chips. We tried them. It's
really weird to me that there is a chip that's
(34:43):
better than are all the chips in the grocery store,
and it's also better for you that doesn't make sense.
That's not the way it's supposed to work. Things that
are good for you are supposed to be disgusting, like vegetables.
Massive Chips has three ingredients. Go look at the back
of the bag. Look at the ingredients on the bags
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(35:05):
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(35:27):
be back. Thanksgiving is here. I'm excited, but I wanted
to remind you. This is your yearly reminder that turkey sucks.
You're not under any obligation to serve a gigantic, dried
out bird on Thanksgiving. There's a reason you don't eat
turkey any other day of the year. That you don't
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have to act like it's special. We can stop pretending.
But there is something that is special. Would you like
to know how to make it? Here? It is Hey,
now it is time because it's Thanksgiving season, It's time
for a little homemade tutorial on Jesse Kelly's world famous
burgers with me. Of course, Jesse Kelly, I felt the
(36:14):
need to do this. I felt an obligation to do
this because of how many people are going to eat
turkey this Thanksgiving. Ditch the turkey, have Jesse Kelly burgers.
Everyone will thank you for it. Nobody's going to be
eating these burgers and saying, oh my gosh, what I'm
really craving is dry meat. So just do this right,
let's begin. First of all, everything everything when it comes
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to cooking, involves high quality ingredients. So make sure you
spend the money get the best ground beef you can find. Okay,
boom there. Now, maybe you're sitting there wondering why the
black gloves is Jesse. Is he going to help clean
out Pete Boudha Jeedge's office after he leaves. No. I
(37:00):
wear these black gloves. One because it cuts down on
the mess. But mostly every time I watch one of
these videos of people cooking, they wear these black gloves
and they look really cool, so kind of like Michael Jackson,
but of age. So first, of all Burger's in there
seasoning salt. I just use lowries or whatever I happen
to have. You don't have to stress the general seasoning salt.
(37:23):
Just a little sprinkle, a little sprinkle. Don't over season
these with the seasoning salt. I've done it before. You
get them way too salty and you just get absolutely
dried out. Little garlic powder again, just a little a
little dust, a little dusting, a garlic powder. And then,
of course, as I've said many times before, the star
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of the show, Chipotle Tabasco sauce, not Tabasco sauce, which
is gross. Chipotle Tabasco sauce. This is the star of
the show. Now be generous with it. Don't be whining
about heat. Most of the heat cooks off. I do
want to stress that it's most of the heat cooks off.
(38:04):
If you're one of these sensitive people Gingers Canadians, you
can't handle any kind of a heat, then you might
get a little extra spice. But for those of us
normal people, you should have just the appropriate amount of spices. Now,
now's when the black gloves really come in handy. Now
we miss so obviously you know how to mix up
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furger it's not very difficult, but make sure you mix
it up extremely, extremely, extremely well, because otherwise you're gonna
get a bite of nothing but Chipotle Tabasco sauce, and
that might be a little overwhelming for you, especially, as
I said, if you're a ginger or some weird creak
like that. All right, now it's mixed up. It's mixed
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up pretty good. Now. Obviously you just grab roughly quarter
pound balls, because this is a pound of burger, so
quarter pound balls don't make any jokes. And there's that.
Burgers are done.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
Now.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Everyone knows a good burger. It's a thin burger, right,
But I don't completely thin out my burger as it
is now. In fact, if we have like a party
or something I have to go to and I have
to make a bunch of these, I'll just have just
a bunch of these in there, just a bunch of
balls sitting in there, so I'll flatten them out a little.
(39:24):
If I don't have to have a tub full of balls,
flatten them out just a little. Just get yourself started
on a little bit of shape. This is obviously not
flat enough for a good burger, but it's a start.
And now it's ingredients time. Obviously, you just saw me
prep the burgers. I got that. You want to use
your high end plates cheese, This is an American cheese endeavor.
(39:49):
Let freedom ring baby. Don't use your fancy cheeses. Good
cheeseburgers need American cheese. Then the buns.
Speaker 7 (39:59):
The buns are more.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Than just a delivery vehicle for the burger in the cheese.
They're a critical part of the burger. So don't walk
up in the grocery store and just grab a pack
of buns. You have to finger the buns to make
sure the buns are appropriate. One, get the buns from
the back of the shelf. Everyone knows they put They
put the older ones at the fronts. They want you
to buy them. Two, take the time, finger the buns.
(40:23):
Make sure you have good buns. Now, you can use
a flat top on your grill, and you can use
a frying pan on your grill, but remember these things
have to be done on a flat surface of some kind,
not a grill. You don't want to lose your burger juice.
If you're wondering why is that pan looked dirty? Because
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I made bacon this morning. And if you really want
to level these things up. Leave a little of your
bacon grease in there like I did, and now I'll
be frying up burgers in my bacon grease. Not only
good but good for you. All Right, now, it's time
to get the done. Get your burger. Get it over, uh,
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medium heat, I would say medium heat. You don't want
it hotter than that. In fact that she probably.
Speaker 9 (41:10):
She's starting to smoke a little wist whom she's down.
Speaker 10 (41:13):
Now.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Remember, a good burger is a flatburger. That's probably two lauds.
A good burger is a flatburger. So you want to
smash that thing down real good and flatten it out.
See it in the bacon grease right there.
Speaker 9 (41:32):
Oh, let me go. Burger is nice and flat burger
looks like Kansas.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Now, splatter is a problem. The wife usually gets mad.
A little splatter guard on there. Let it sit for
just a minute or so.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
All right, she's.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Probably ready for the flip eyeball. It definitely ready for
the flip.
Speaker 6 (42:03):
Flip.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Now the second you flip it, get that American.
Speaker 10 (42:07):
Cheese on their because American cheese must be melted. Burger
cheese must be melted. I cannot believe these savages who
serve their burgers with the cheese unmelted?
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Is that right about now?
Speaker 10 (42:19):
You're probably thinking, Okay, you have your high end place,
you have your finger funds, Jesse, what about on the.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Kitchen and mustard and mayo and lettuce and tomatoes?
Speaker 10 (42:28):
Remember world famous Jesse tullyburgers are world famous for a reason.
They don't need anything. No condiments, no vegetables, no nothing.
You don't need any of that. And look how fast
that American cheese goes to work. Boom Burger is thuned
burger is scoup burger is fun. That is ready to
(42:53):
enjoy you will.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
All right? All right, we'll lighten the mood next. All right,
it's time to lighten the mood. And just got back
from New York City, went out to dinner with producer
Mad and some others fancy steakhouse and it was delicious.
(43:29):
But once again I asked for a specific side of sauce.
The food came, no sauce. The persecution, the discrimination against
us has gone on for too long. And for those
of you who've forgotten here we are. Have you been
denied a side of sauce at a restaurant? Did the
(43:49):
waitress promise you your ranch, but left you with nothing.
You have been wronged and you deserve justice. They took
your order, they took your trust, they took your money,
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