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November 27, 2025 44 mins

Democrat leaders and judges in blue areas have allowed unspeakable tragedies to take place. There doesn't seem like there's any sign of these things slowing down either. Jesse Kelly breaks it down. Joining Jesse on the show is Liz Collin of Alpha News, who has a thorough breakdown of Somalian fraud taking place in Minnesota. As for the economy, John Carney and Chef Andrew Gruel break down a wide range of affordability issues plaguing America today.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
We're going to talk about crime in America's cities. Liz
Collin is always fun to talk to about that. She'll
join us. John Carney is here. He sat down with
Scott but sent all that chef Gruel and more coming up.
I'm right, never been to Japan. I went to Japan.

(00:27):
That was in the Marine Corps. It wasn't believing. It
wasn't a fancy trip. Who over there doing a six
month deployment training and things like that. At some point
in time we had to go do some training up
in Mount Fuji, which is reasonably close to Tokyo. Not
right next door, but reasonably close. We would have to
take a train from Mount Fuji to Tokyo. Whenever we

(00:48):
had a day off or two days off. We're a
bunch of young Marines. We want to go see the sites,
maybe have a beer or two, talk to a local lady.
So he would hop on a train. And this is
long before I was even into politics, but we would
get on these trains, long train ride, and I've I've

(01:08):
been in public trains. I've been on public transit multiple
times in my life. By that point, you know, buses
and trains like most people have. We would discuss back
then amongst ourselves how clean everything was, how safe it felt,
how polite, well mannered people would get up and let

(01:31):
old women sit down if they needed a place to sit.
It was then. Now these we're young Marines, we're not
focused on cultural issues or politics, but it was so
noticeable that we discussed it. And then we would get
to Tokyo, one of the biggest cities in the world.
It might be the biggest city I've meant looked, one
of the biggest cities in the world. Tokyo, huge city.

(01:52):
And again, we're Marines from all different walks of life,
city boys, country boys. But we've been around the block
a couple times. The city itself was immaculate, and I'm
just having a hard time actually conveying. You were out
at night, and it's not that we were ever super fearful,
big group of Marines, but you'd be out at night

(02:14):
with a buddy. It's a huge city and you could
go anywhere, and you never felt like that guy. We
should probably give him a wide berth. You never smelled peat.
It was just nice, clean. Why, well, they've made a choice,

(02:38):
you see, it's a choice. All the scumbag communists in
the United States of America who've turned our cities into
rotten hellholes that will only get worse. They're desperate for
you to not know that it's a choice. There are
cities all across the world are lovely and safe. Zagreb, Croatia.

(03:03):
I've never been there. I just had a buddy tell
me about it. Though. His wife would go out at night,
just go take a walk. They were walking the dog.
Go out at night, no fear, nobody's suspicious, just clean streets,
no pee, no trash clean Why they've made a choice.
Here in the United States of America, we continue to

(03:26):
wake up day after day after day to these stories
of some innocent American, usually a woman who has been
ravaged by some barbarian in and out of prison eight
thousand times. And then the politicians will make every excuse
in the world and will be outraged. But it's really, really,

(03:47):
really important to understand that America's cities are disgusting, smelly, violent,
and dangerous by choice. It's a very simple choice. The
story recently, of course, twenty six year old woman Bethany
McGhee is her name, sits on a train car in
Chicago on a six year old woman, young lady, fifty

(04:10):
year old black dude with seventy two prior arrests, dumps
gasoline all over her and lights her on fire. Over
sixty percent of her body burned. She'll live, but you
and I both know she'll never be the same, She'll

(04:34):
never look the same. This is not some one off story.
It's happened time after time after time. Remember Arenezurutzka, of course, Charlotte,
North Carolina, young lady's the kid gets off work. Some
barbarian sits behind her, sees her white skin, pulls out

(04:59):
his knife and murders her right there on camera. We
all watched it. But it's not just that that barbarian
had been arrested eight thousand times continued to be set free.
We could do eight hours on these stories. Remember the
story of Logan Federico. Remember this.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Dead gone Why because Alexander Devonte Dickey, who was arrested
thirty nine times twenty five felonies, was on the street.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
How about that?

Speaker 2 (05:41):
How good are we doing for our family? How good
are you doing for your kids? He should have been
in jail for over one hundred and forty years for
all the crimes he committed. You know how much time
he spent in prison, a little over six hundred days
in ten years.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
He's on I'm thirty years old.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
He was committing two point sixty five crimes a year
since she was fifteen years old. But nobody could figure
out that he couldn't be rehabilitated. Well, you'd have to
put him in prison to see if he could be rehabilitated.
Isn't that the idea of prison? But no, my daughter

(06:24):
wanted to be a teacher. She finally figured it out
two weeks before she was executed.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
She was pulled out of her bed by that animal,
begged for her life, shot in the head. The judge.
Back to the Bethany McGhee case, the young lady set
on fire in Chicago. Of course, is asked why she
would turn the animal loose. Again, said an I quote,
I understand your position, but I can't keep everyone in jail.

(07:00):
In Johnson, Mayor of Chicago, made a little statement about it,
and here it.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Was, we cannot incarcerate our way out of violence. We've
already tried that, and we've ended up with the largest
prison population in the world without solving the problems of
crime and violence. The addiction on jails and incarceration in
this country. We have moved past that. It is racist,
it is immoral, it is unholy, and it is not

(07:27):
the way to drive violence down.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
But of course these are all lies to cover up
the real reason. It's racist. That's a lie. We can't
jail everyone, that's a lie. We have too many people
in prison, that's a lie. These are all lies. See,
we most definitely can incarcerate our way out of violence,
because countries have done it all over the planet. Why

(07:53):
do you think Tokyo is so safe? You do things
bad in Tokyo, you're going by by some see you later.
El Salvador reduced its murder rate by ninety eight percent.
Do you know what percentage of the population they had
to arrest and imprison in order to reduce the murder
rate by that much? One point six percent. That's it.

(08:17):
And here in America, it's not as if we have
a country that's loaded with animals. It's just the small
percentage of sub human demons, violent, demonic, raised, violent, committed
to violence. They'll be violent their entire lives, like rabbit wolverines.
It's not millions and millions. It's a small little percentage,

(08:39):
and it would be easy to stop all these things.
Women being burned, alive, raped, murdered. It would be easy.
But that would require a choice, which, of course begs
the question. If the communist isn't genuinely worried about righteousom
or the prison population or anything like that, would why

(09:00):
does he continue to do this? Why does he continue
to find the animal and he's wearing a judge's robes,
or more often than not, she's wearing a judge's robes
and she turns the animal free. Does she feel like
that person's going to reform? Come on? Does she feel
like it would be racist to arrest that person? Though?

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Come on, that judge is a communist. The communist wants
you raped once you murdered, because rape and murder and
fevery creates fear in people, creates angst, and whenever there
is this kind of discontent, this fear in society, the

(09:44):
communist knows it aids him in his quest for power.
The truth is, so many Americans will actually buy into
the lies of although Democrats are just naive, well they
think it's racist. Oh well, we don't want to look racist.
So many people will believe the excuses they get instead
of accepting the very, very brutal truth that we are
surrounded by demonic communists. They've taken incredibly important positions of

(10:08):
power in our society, and they've made a choice to
have your daughter raped in the city because they believe
it helps the revolution move forward. Now, when you accept that,
then you can finally tackle the problem and understand it
for what it is. See this woman running for Congress
in Nashville.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
She might win, by the way, Representative. In twenty twenty,
you made some tweets that have since been deleted that
were very critical of police. You said in those since
deleted tweets that the Metropolitan Nashville Police Department should be dissolved,
another cheered on a teachers' union, saying that defund the
police should be a requirement for schools reopening, and another

(10:49):
saying good morning, especially to the fifty four percent of
Americans that believe burning down a police station is justified.
Twenty twenty, it was obviously a very fraught year. Do
you still stand by those comments, and if not, is
there anything you want to clarify.

Speaker 6 (11:06):
I'm not going to engage in kuble news talking points,
but what I will say is that you know, our
communities need solutions. We need local people deciding solving local
problems with local solutions. And that's not the overreach of
a federal government or state government of is of what
we are dealing with in Nashville and our cities across

(11:28):
the state of Tennessee.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
So you don't want to clarify whether you still believe
that the police should be defunded.

Speaker 6 (11:37):
Once again, I don't remember these tweets, but I'm what
I'm saying is is that I'm.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
Not asking you if you remember what is your position today?
How's that on this issue?

Speaker 6 (11:47):
I mean, I'm once again I'm here to talk about
my race, which is in literally nine days.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
I know. She's blonde, almost a little pretty. It's hard.
It's hard, even though you disagree and dislike her. It's
hard to look at that young lady and think to yourself,
she wants me shot in the head. She would actually
privately celebrate if my daughter was raped. It's hard to

(12:16):
accept that, isn't it when you look at her, just
a young lady. But you don't understand how truly demonic
and violent the communist is. You do not understand why
he does things he does. When these communists defund the
police department and install a judge that will allow an
other animal onto the streets, they don't do so with naivete.

(12:40):
When that guy inevitably kills, robs, rapes someone else, they
don't sit back and go, oh, dang, I thought he'd
turned his life around. They're well aware of what he's
going to do again. They want it to happen. These
people are not accidentally stumbling into it. And as I've
told you so many times before, they're not soft on crime.

(13:03):
Please never use that ridiculous term. They are pro murder,
they are pro rape, and as of now they control
every major American city. All that may have made you uncomfortable,
but I am right. We will march forward. We'll talk
to Liz Colin about this. She has a unique level
of knowledge about this because she lives in one of

(13:25):
the worst places now for this kind of stuff, Minneapolis.
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(13:47):
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Speaker 4 (14:34):
Somalis are not terrorizing this nation.

Speaker 7 (14:37):
We are helping it thrive.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Somalis have always seen as a fabric, has seen themselves
as a fabric of this nation. So not only are
we not going anywhere, Not only are we not going anywhere,
we are not going to allow anybody to make us
feel less Minnesotan or less American.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Wow, things are going well up there. Joining me now.
Liz Collin, Senior reporter, Alpha News, Liz, I don't even
know where to begin on the Somali based scandals that
are going on in your backyard, So maybe I should
actually hand it to the reporter. What is happening up there?

Speaker 8 (15:19):
Yeah, so much has made national news now, but federal
prosecutors Jesse have estimated now that there has been multi
billions of dollars in fraud in Minnesota. Just to catch
your audience up to speed, we've had seventy eight defendants
now been sentenced in just the Feeding our Future fraud
scheme alone. This was the largest COVID fraud scheme in

(15:41):
the country, overwhelmingly perpetuated in the Somali community. And those
co defendants stole more than forty seven million dollars in funds,
claiming to serve eighteen million meals to kids at more
than thirty food distribution sites across Minnesota. The math never
added up. We know a lot of that money went overseas.
It'll never be recovered. You have fraud at autism centers,
adult daycares, medical transportation companies. An entire program was recently

(16:06):
shut down by the state of Minnesota. It was supposed
to help people find housing. It had to be shut
down after it was riddled with fraud. Over at Elphin News,
we've checked out many of the tips that We've received
people alleging these fake businesses phantom billing. I've seen for
myself the empty parking lots, empty businesses, and then you
can just check a quick online search to state records

(16:28):
will show just how many millions of dollars these what
look to be fake businesses are receiving. I can tell
you the taxpayers are very frustrated. We've seen this for ourselves.
In fact, one business that we recently profiled actually set
up a surveillance camera themselves to just say, here, there's
never any cars coming and going this center, this autism center,
is getting two million dollars from taxpayers.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
We've had people.

Speaker 8 (16:51):
Calling on Governor Tim Walls to resign in the wake
of all of this. He is currently still running for
his third term. Jesse here in Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Okay, before we get to Tim Walls, Lis, I'm sorry,
I know it's probably off the subject. I need to
rewind for a second. Adult day cares. What's an adult daycare?
You know? It's funny.

Speaker 8 (17:13):
That's what federal prosecutors have asked again and again. They've
never even heard of this type of business, but these
have exploded in Minnesota. We've checked it some out many
times often there's nobody there, or I've actually gone into
some there's been people, just a few people sitting on
a couch, and you know, yet online they'll be advertising

(17:33):
all these great activities that they take these older adults to.
That doesn't seem to be happening into the stories that
we've we've looked at, but certainly a lot of a
lot of questions. It seems that there should be some
safeguards put up on the front end, rather than you know,
looking for this money after it's long gone.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Adult daycare. Gosh, I'm really old. Okay, back to Tim Walls,
do you get the impression because you're the one who
digs into this stuff that Minnesota and the political apparatus
there look the other way for all this endless Somali
fraud or it worse, helped, And what's your impression on

(18:13):
how the government is involved in this?

Speaker 8 (18:16):
You know, it's a good question. Republican legislators have recently
been more questioning that I think publicly. You know, why
have you allowed this for so long? Especially now with
this explosion of all of these frauds. It seems almost
at the same time and again we're talking about billions
of dollars that have been built from taxpayers. At this point,

(18:40):
we have the Attorney General of Minnesota, Keith Ellison, who
has been very quiet when it comes to fraud in Minnesota. Instead,
it's been federal prosecutors taking these cases on. And then
you know, this I think made national news just recently
with President Trump announcing he's going to terminate a Temporary
protected status that TPS for Somali immigrants specifically, that's a

(19:01):
little bit more than four hundred people, it's estimated. In Minnesota.
We are the home to the largest Somali population in
the country, anywhere between eighty and one hundred thousand. But
we have documented this before that the money in many
cases has gone overseas Kenya, Somalia. My sources have said
that many have figured out how to do this. They

(19:22):
go ahead and they'll serve a five to ten year
prison term for this fraud, and we know that some
of this real estate has been bought in other parts
of the world, and they'll serve their time, and you know,
it's sort of a set up for them upon their release.
So there's been calls to you know, hey, do we
need tougher sentences when it comes to this fraud.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
It's so pervasive, all right, Liz, let's shift gears here.
Derek Chauvin might be, this is my opinion, not yours,
the most legally crapped on human being in the United
States of America in the last decade. And now I
know his lawyers are saying, hey, can we get this guy?
What's happening with all this?

Speaker 8 (20:02):
And Jesse also something that has taken place on Governor
Tim Wall's watch. We talk about fraud, but fraud to
me also involves lies. Certainly a lot of them told
in this case. But we have the latest developments with
Derek Chauvin's case, this new court filing in support of
a post conviction relief for Derek Chauvin. It's a seventy
one page petition filed in Hennepin County Court last week

(20:23):
now alleging prosecutorial misconduct. It's basically Chauvin's last line of defense.
You have his attorney stating that this case never made sense.
Very few murders, he says, take place in before a
crowd of witnesses, especially while officers are working with dispatchers
and requesting an ambulance and emergency response. Right all at
the same time, there's also quite a bit in this

(20:45):
questioning the video evidence how these so called expert witnesses
could actually even testify at all to the cause of
death of George Floyd. The only person to ever conduct
an autopsy on George Floyd was doctor Andrew Baker. Instead,
he's called fifth in line to testify, and he talks
about how there's no asphyxiation at all that George Floyd

(21:05):
suffered from, and in fact, you know, his findings are
cardiopulmonary arrests that George Floyd in fact died of a
heart attack. And you now have fifty police officers, former
and current Minneapolis police officers that have come forward in
this filing to say that Derek Chauvin was trained in
the maximum restraint technique. They were all trained in MRT,
and that is in fact what he was doing on

(21:27):
May twenty fifth, twenty twenty. So you have a lot
of these, you know, questionable people who've been called and testified,
and many people have said that they actually committed perjury
in Derek Chauvin's case. So all of that wrapped up
into this seventy one page filing last week to either
vacate Chauvin's conviction or grant him a new trial.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
All right, this Before I let you go, I just
want to nail down on this point. We have these
fifty officers, current informers saying he was trained in this. Well,
this is information that I know you had talked about
back when it mattered before Derek Chauvin went to prison.
So not insulting them or anyone else involved, because I
don't know the details. Where were these fifty guys back

(22:09):
when Derek Chauvin was on trial.

Speaker 8 (22:12):
Well, what's interesting is the judge did not allow MRT
the maximull restraint technique to discussed at trial at all.
They said that dark Chauvin didn't.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
They didn't.

Speaker 8 (22:21):
He didn't sign his name in the last time it
was trained during MPD, but you know training. But I
think it only adds to the spotlight on the judge
in this case, Judge Peter Cahill, who has since retired,
but there were many questionable rulings that he made. Have
always said in the case Jesse, it's it's more about
what the jury was not allowed to see in Derek
Chauvin's case rather than rather than what they were.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Liz Happy Thanksgiving to you. I appreciate it all the economy.
Are we going to get some relief buying things? How's
inflation going to go next year? We'll talk to John
Carney with Scott descent, We'll talk to him about that.
But I don't want you to stress about it. I
want you to get a good night's sleep all right now.

(23:06):
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Speaker 9 (24:08):
March of twenty four I wrote something for Fox Digital
and everyone go back and pull it up March twelfth,
and it was called how the three eyes are the
eviscerating working Americans? So what were the three eyes? Immigration,
interest rates, and inflation? Borders? Closed? Promise made, promise kept,

(24:33):
Tenure was five oh eight. I think it's at four
now and mortgage rates key off of that. I think
short term interest rates could come down more so interest
rates down, and now we're at inflation and inflation is
coming down. I am very confident over the coming six, three, six,

(24:59):
twelve months we are going to see the third eye
bite the dust and inflation is going to come down.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Okay, well that's music to my freaking ears. Let's see
what John has to say about joining me now, John Carney,
economics editor at bright Bart News. All right, John, inflation
coming down. Every single American watching right now just sat
up in their chair and said, really, is it gonna.

Speaker 7 (25:25):
It is coming down? Actually, some good news. The American
parm Bureau said the price of a Thanksgiving meal is
down about five percent from last year. So this is
you know, they put together all the ingredients cranberry sauce,
baked potato, mashed potatoes, turkey, of course, and they do

(25:45):
this calculation and it's come down. Inflation is down a
lot from where it was under Joe Biden, and it's
going to keep coming down by all indications through you know,
through next year. It's going to take a while before
we get to two percent, which is the Fed's official target.

(26:06):
But we're moving in that direction. So good news, and
I think best.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
It's right on that.

Speaker 7 (26:11):
I think we will see within the next six months
material progress on inflation.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
All right, John, Which of course begs the question. So
if we get inflation down to two percent, that does
not return me, a normal American, to what I was
paying before we decided to shut down the country for
a bad chess? Cool? Is that over? Is that country
simply gone because we shut it down? That is it?

(26:39):
The I mean, you can level with me, Is it over?
Is that gone?

Speaker 10 (26:43):
No?

Speaker 7 (26:43):
I don't think it is. I think the key we're
not going to bring prices to where they should be.
That inflation, unfortunately, is baked in the cake where we
can't get rid of it. But what we can do
is grow wages so that and that's the other half
of what I'll call like the best and Trump plan

(27:05):
is to keep is to grow wages faster than the
rate of inflation, so that wages catch up, so that
things no longer feel as expensive as they are now.
A huge part of the problem is prices went up
and our wages went up much more slowly, so things
really did become unaffordable. And they still are in many

(27:27):
cases far less affordable than they were before the pandemic.
But if we can grow wages fast enough, we will
catch up. It'll still feel bad, guys like you and
I will still look at the price of a hamburger
and be like, I can't believe that's what they're going
to charge me for a hamburger. But wages will catch
up and people will start to feel a little better

(27:48):
about it because their money will go further.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Well, that's music to my ears. Break down for me
if you don't mind, John, Why why are wages going
to go up? What's what's happening right now that's going
to put more money in my pocket? Sure?

Speaker 7 (28:04):
A couple things. One, we're having an investment boom in America.
We just got Durbal goods orders in this week. I
mean it's backdated to September because the Democrats shut down
the government, but they showed a huge leap in business
investment for the second month in a row. It grew
zero point nine percent in August at zero point nine
percent in September. That kind of investment in business actually

(28:28):
will create a lot of demand for labor. The other
half of it is we've closed the border. That's one
of the things Beston was talking about in his Three Eyes.
That puts upward pressure on American wages. And what we're
seeing is a lot more jobs are being filled by
Americans rather than foreigners now. That will help bring wages
up as well. And I think we're going to start

(28:50):
to see the fruits of the deregulation and the tariffs
frankly moving production back on shore. That will also put
upward pressure on wages. So I think we're going to
catch up faster than you know most economists thin they think, well,
it'll take years and years. One of the things I've

(29:11):
learned in watching the Trump administration over the years is
they always underestimate how quickly the economy can recover when
you have good governance.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
John zooming out from US because sadly we are affected
by the rest of the world. What's the global economic
situation now, because it wasn't just the United States of
America that's had some rocky times in the past few years.
That's been fairly universal. Are other places getting their feet
under them? Are we are we? Are we starting to

(29:43):
get back to normal or not?

Speaker 7 (29:45):
No, So there's a lot of economic problems still going
on around the world. China has a really precarious economic situation.
They are trying to sort of their economy was for
the last few years was really based on a property bubble,

(30:06):
where you know, something close to what we went through
in the United States where you had a real estate bubble.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
It's not based on.

Speaker 7 (30:13):
Mortgages as much. There's a lot of mortgages, but it's
a property bubble. They were trying to replace that growth
with export growth. The problem is they've run into Donald
Trump and the US is no longer open to Chinese
dumping of exports, So that's a big problem for China.
Europe has a problem as well. They're having to rebalance

(30:35):
their economy. Their economy really did depend very much on
an uneven playing field between the US and Europe. So
Europe is trying to rebalance. That's they're going to grow slow.
That's actually it will be a drag on the US.
We want, you know, our allies to be rich and
wealthy and to do well, but it's going to take

(30:56):
some time. That means they're you know, their appetite for
US product will be lower, which will slower growth a bit.
But we're going to What we're going to see over
the next couple of years is the US is probably
going to grow at a much healthier.

Speaker 10 (31:09):
Rate than.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Europe.

Speaker 7 (31:13):
And we might, you know, China will who knows how
fast China really grows. The numbers are all, you know,
I don't trust a bit of them. But China's going
to really struggle because they can't switch from real estate
to export like they had planned because we put tariffs
on them.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Are we going to have a new FED chair? There
are all these rumors, but you're the one who always
knows this stuff. We're gonna have a new FED chair?
If so, why and what's the new guy going to do? So, yes,
we will have a.

Speaker 7 (31:42):
New FED chair, no matter what. Jerome Powell's term ends
in April, Donald Trump is very close to naming someone.
And Alex Marlow and I interviewed Scott Bessen. He made
it clear that they are getting very close to They've
been interviewing candidates. It's most likely either going to be

(32:04):
Kevin Hassett, who is Donald Trump's chief economic advisor in
the White House, the National Economics Director right now, Kevin Warrish,
who used to be on the FED, and then Christopher
Waller who is currently a FED governor, but he dissented
once when the FED didn't cut He's probably going to
vote for another rate cut in the December meeting. He's

(32:27):
also a strong candidate. I think he actually has a
stronger chance than people are giving him odds for those
are probably the three leading candidates. Of course, Look it's
Donald Trump. He you know, often plays his cards pretty
close to his vest on these things. Nobody really knows
until he makes the decision who.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
It's going to be.

Speaker 7 (32:49):
So I don't think even you know, Treasury Secretary Scott
Besstt knows who it will be. Right now, We'll have
to wait to see what Donald Trump says. He probably
wants to say something I know before Christmas is what
I'm hearing.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
How about that we'll take that. John. You have a
happy Thanksgiving, my friend. I appreciate you. Know what I'm
bringing for Thanksgiving Massive chips. Now, don't yell at me.
Ab is bringing some kind of baked good. I think
she's doing cobbler something. But I'm doing a little dip,
little master chips. Time to introduce the whole neighborhood to

(33:28):
the glory of Massive Chips. Don't roll your eyes at
me either. They're freaking glorious, absolutely glorious. You see, I
love chips, as you know. I've been eating chips my
entire life. When I was a kid, I used to
beg my mom, can I have five more Doritos? But
chips are terrible for you, at least the stuff you
buy in the grocery store. They're terrible for you. You

(33:50):
know how many ingredients Massive chips has three ingredients just
tallow salt corn. They're delicious, multiple flavors, and there's a
reason you don't feel all bloated and gross when you're done.
You just get to eat a good chip without feeling
bad about yourself. You want to save a bunch of money.

(34:11):
Massachips dot com slash JESSETV. We'll be back. Okay, Thanksgiving
is upon us. You didn't think I was just going
to ignore that the entire time. So I know maybe
you're stressing right now. What if I screw everything up tomorrow?

(34:33):
That's why we need the chef in here to educate
us on all things Thanksgiving. Joining me now, my friend,
chef Andrew Gruel, owner of the Calico Fish House. Okay, Chef,
as you well know, I am not a turkey man.
I don't eat dried out meat. But I know you
know how to cook it, and many people watching are

(34:53):
going to be making it tomorrow. So I will give
the floor to you. Help these disgusting turkey lovers make
the perfect bird tomorrow.

Speaker 11 (35:02):
I will say I'm with you on the turkey. By
the way, the best way to cook a turkey is
to braise a pork butt. That is the best way
to do it right now, So two things I'll If
you're gonna cook the turkey, you gotta spatch cock the turkey.
I repeat, spatch cock the turkey. That's where you cut bingo.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
There it is. How'd you guys find that?

Speaker 11 (35:21):
My gosh, you're like internet sleuths. You split it down
the center, you push it down You're gonna get the
best breasts that way, because they're gonna cook at the
same time as the legs. If you think about it right,
the heat comes from the outside ind so when your
legs go up to one hundred and sixty degrees, your
breast is only at like one hundred hundred and fifty
one hundred and fifty five. They cook evenly. Salt your bird.
You got to salt it now. Right now is the time.

(35:42):
After you watch this clipper, actually after everybody listens to
the entirety of your show. Go take that bird, throw
it on a sheet pan, Salt the hell out of it.
Throw it in a refrigerator uncovered because you want it
to get dried out on the xterior so you get
a better crispier exterior, and then that salt's gonna work
and out of the bird. It's going to basically help
the bird retain moisture. But the other piece is, go

(36:04):
get a pork butt, Go get a chuck roll, Go
get anyone of those big fat cuts of meat that
you braise, that you throw in the crock potter, you
throw in the back of the stove and braise for hours.
Because the juice from that's going to actually make a
better gravy, so you can add it to your bravy gravy.
In addition, having that like meltingly tender, collagen rich braised
meat to mix into all the other horrible Thanksgiving sides

(36:28):
is going to take things from like a five to
a seven.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
All right, we were actually we're going to get to
the sides in a moment, cause I wanted to talk
to you about that. Where do you stand, chef on
the injecting the turkey the butter. I have a friend
who just slabs butter under the skin and mixes all
kind of things in it. As I said, this is
not my area yet, but it's very much yours. Help
people out here.

Speaker 11 (36:53):
Injecting a turkey does nothing because the meat, the moisture
just comes right out when you cut into it. So
imagine it's just like sitting there in this water pocket
and then you cut it and then it just runs
right out. You might as well just pour stock on
your bird as you're eating it. It's a better way
to do it. And then putting butter doesn't do anything
because all of that fat actually melts off the bird
and just goes into the bottom of your pants, so
you're wasting money. I'm telling you. The only thing that

(37:15):
works is pre salting your bird. Salt is the only
chemical that can go inside the bird and outside the bird.
Marinades don't go in the bird because they're not The
fat is impenetrable. Flavonoids, which is the chemical version of
all those spices, Those don't go in the bird. They
only flavor the outside of the bird. So you can
rub it down with the spices and the herbs, but
the fat isn't going to do anything but run off

(37:37):
the bird.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
All right now. Sides, everybody knows the green bean casts
a role, and there are good sides. I admit that
where are you out on Thanksgiving? Sides help people out
who are scrambling tonight. They have to bring a side tomorrow.
They're figuring out the stuffing. What do they do well?

Speaker 11 (37:56):
The sides are always the secondary thought, right, So will
make them the day before and then they throw them
in the o them before they eat them, so they're
dried out, they're overcooked. The key with sides is that
if you are making them today, undercook it a little bit,
understanding that you're gonna need to bring it up to
temp make sure you got fat in there, right, So bacon, butter, cream, sauces.
I love bacon and caramelized onions and absolutely everything. And

(38:18):
then before you reheat it the next day, throw your
stock in there to make sure that you moisten it
up again. I keep saying moist and spatchcock. This is
getting weird. But also on the sides, geez a lot
of parmesan, right, Parmesan is umami, So you want to
top it with that fresh parmesan, either at the end
or before you rebake it to get a little bit
of that melfactor on there. The other piece of this

(38:39):
on the sides is that make sure that you're seizing
it heavily throughout. And if you put interior garnish in there,
like ham or braised meats or bacon, which I think
you should, make sure it's like a one to one
ratio because nobody likes searching around the string beans for
one little piece of bacon or one crispy onion. So
it's all about that interior garnish ratio needs to be
one to one, not five hundred to one.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Chef, everyone knows I'm a sauce man. You are not
only a sauceman. The Calico Fish House has mouth watering sauces.
But I'm not at the Calico Fish House tomorrow. I'm
at my neighbor's house, and I've got what I've got.
Maybe I can stop by the store. Is there a
money sauce I can whip up really quick that an
idiot like me can do really quick. That that's gonna

(39:23):
bring something to life if I just start dipping stuff
in it.

Speaker 11 (39:26):
Yeah, I love it brown butter, right, So just take
a whole stick of butter and actually throw it in
a pan and toast it until it starts to smell
nutty and it gets kind of golden brown. Pull it
off the heat, throw a handful of fresh herbs in
there and a squeeze of lemon, and mix it up.
And actually, because of those toasted milk solids, you get
this incredibly rich, fatty sauce. The herbs will blend into

(39:47):
it and some of the seasoning that acid will make
the flavor pop and it actually the fat will bring
out the flavor and all the foods you're eating. But
those toasted milk solids are nutty. That's why they call it.
Bernois set which in French is basically toasted butter or
toasted nuts. Toasted nuts smacky in the old bernois set.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
How about that, all right, chef, Thanksgiving's expensive. I know
everyone's touting how much more affordable it is right now,
but just food in general and all seriousness is very expensive.
We got people paying ten bucks a pound for burger
across the country. Is there price relief on the horizon
for the consumer? That includes obviously restaurant tours like you

(40:25):
who don't want to have to charge people twenty five
dollars for a cheeseburger. Is there relief coming?

Speaker 11 (40:31):
Yeah, there is relief coming for a couple reasons. Number One,
A lot of this is speculation. Is what's driving up
the prices. That's the crazy thing is that supply hasn't
changed on the beef side, inventory hasn't changed, but over
a month prices are going up six hundred dollars ahead
on the cattle just because of the mere speculation. Is
like what's happening with the stock market. So I think
as supply increases, which is projected to do so, you're

(40:53):
going to see prices come down on the wholesale side
of things. Number One, after the holidays, you also see
prices come down. Generally speaking, what's driving a lot of
these prices up in places like California, they're taking a
national average, So it's all these blue states where they've
got transportation costs through the roof, which are getting passed
down to the retailers. So if we can actually see
some of those prices continue to come down on transportation,

(41:16):
we'll see a wholesale drop. But I am confident from
a macroeconomic perspective, although I'm just a cook, that prices
are gonna come down, especially in the first quarter of
twenty twenty six. So mark my words on this one.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Jeff, you and your family have a halfy Thanksgiving, my friend,
thank you for helping us again. Spatchcock the turkey, you know,
next time, I'm gonna ask him how you do that,
because he makes it sound so simple, Just take the
spine out of it. I've never done that before. When
I've had to mess with that disgusting bird, I've had,
you know, do the stuffing thing. Well whatever, anyway, Donald

(41:52):
Trump's funny. He dealt with some turkeys yesterday. We'll lighten
the mood next. It's time to lighten the mood. And
I'll tell you something. Trump is funny. He's one of
those people to be funny, to have a sense of humor.

(42:16):
I'm pretty sure it's God given. Either you have one
or you don't. You can work on it. But the
dude is just naturally funny. And of course he was
talking about pardoning turkeys here he was.

Speaker 10 (42:26):
I want to make an important announcement because you remember
last year, after a thorough and very rigorous investigation by
Pam Bondi and all of the people at the Department
of Justice, the FBI, the CIA, the White House Counsel's Office,
and the Department of Everything. We have a Department of Everything,

(42:49):
you know that is I think that's called the White
House into a terrible situation caused by a man named
Sleepy Joe Biden. He used to know pen last year
for the Turkey's pardon. So I have the official duty
to determine, and I have determined that last year's turkey
pardons are totally invalid, as are the pardons of about

(43:14):
every other person that was pardoned other than Where's Hunter.
No Hunters was good. That was the one parton pamp
that was good, right. The rest of them are all invalid.
I don't know what the hell you're going to do
about that, but that's now. We're going to take a
little of the joking. That is a mess. But they're
hereby nol and void. The turkeys known as peachin blossom

(43:37):
last year have been located, and they were on their
way to be processed, in other words, to be killed.
But I have stopped that journey and I am officially
pardoning them, and they will not be served for Thanksgiving dinner.
The turkey's being pardoned today go by the names of
Gobble and Waddle. When I first saw their pictures, I

(43:58):
thought we should send them. Uh well, I was gonna
I shouldn't say this. I was gonna call him chuck
in Nancy. But then I realized I wouldn't be pardoning them.
I would never pardon those two people.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Dude, this is funny. Man. You enjoyed time with family. Tomorrow,
remember what you're thankful for. I'll see.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
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Speaker 9 (44:27):
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