December 22, 2025 • 34 mins
Pushback for prayer. The christian prosecution around the world. Father Pavone joins Lidia
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is the Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome back to the Jesse Kelly Show. That is my uh,
that's Gavin Rossdale, machine Head Bush. I've seen I've gone
to see him multiple times, Gavin Rossdale. So you can
tell I'm a millennial, right. My first concert I ever
went to in my life, I was sixteen years old. Sixteen, Yeah,
I was sixteen. And by the way, this is Lydia
(00:37):
Saran I filling in for Jesse Kelly again. You can
follow me on social media at Lydia News l I
d I A n e WS and you can watch
me on Newsmax. I was a reporter at Fox five
for several years. Then I was at WABC Radio in
New York City, and now I'm at Newsmax Saturday's at
five o'clock five pm Eastern and then Sundays at noon Eastern.
(00:58):
I'm filling in for Carl Higbee this Bride at six
pm Eastern, and so I fill in on primetime usually
during the week. So when I was sixteen years old,
I stole my parents minivan, I got my license, I
got my permit, and I had never you ever see
that movie Clueless where the girls are on the Highway
and they started screaming like that was me. And So
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I went to high school in the Bronx Cardinals Spelmane
and so I never and I lived in Yonkers at
the time, so it was like a ten minute drive
and I never drove on the highway before. So I
stole my parents minivan and we loaded up all the
I loaded up all my friends, these girls because I
was obsessed with Bush and they were playing at Jones
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Beach and I had to drive on the l IE
the Long Island Expressway. I mean, I remember, I'd never
even been to Long Island before. The only beach I
would go to when I was sixteen, you know, living
in the Bronx and Yonkers was Orchard Beach, which is
was a nasty beach. They actually kind of cleaned it up.
So I had never been to Jones Beach. I had
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never and here I was like driving with like a
van full of girls on our way and the concert
was epic.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
The lead the lead act was the Google was Google Dolls, right,
Google Dolls, then No Doubt and Bush. And this was
late nineties. This was the height of Gavin Rossdale, the
epitome of hotness and He's like sixty years old now
and I still go and see him. My husband is aware.
He's come with me, and I swear Gavin Rossdale every
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time I'm in the pit too. I'm one of those freaks.
I'm one of those people that just I have to
be like by the stage, I get all into it.
I get into the zone. I know all the songs
and we always make eye contact. Gavin Rossdale and not
in my mind, I have this like I think he
knows who I am, and I met him just like
at the concert, like you know, I've touched him and
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stuff like that. You know, don't don't get any I'm
not that kind of way I touched him. But anyway,
I like alternative music like Pearl Jam and that kind
of stuff, and you know, that's that's my jam, that's
my jam. So you normally that's like a not a
normal thing for a girl from the Bronx to love
alternative music and hard music. But that's what I like.
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Guns n' Roses, all that kind of stuff from back then.
And I feel like nowadays there isn't that kind of
good music like the bands like can you I don't know,
can you guys think I say I don't have a
call screener because we're bare bones because it's the holidays,
and that I would because I would love to hear
from everybody. You could tell me on social media at
Lydia News l I D I A N e WS.
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There there are no good new bands anymore, back in
the day, the Nirvana's and stuff like that. There where
are those rock bands? What has happened green Day? And
people say to me, they're like, well, green Day has
leftist or this pearl jam. I don't care. I don't care.
I don't care what your politics are. I really don't
be as long as you still play that really good,
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amazing music. I know. I know that guy what's his name,
Billy or something like that for Green Day he talks
smack about Trump. I don't care. I still love the music.
I still listen to the Spotify Imagine Dragons. I kind
of like them. So anyway, that's that's my story. So
now you kind of understand where how I am. So
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I grew up in a very strict household my parents. First,
you know, I didn't even speak English growing up. My
sister got married very early, she was told to. And
so here they have this daughter who wants to be
a news reporter, and you know, I stole their van
to go see a concert. So I was like this rebel,
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Like that was rebel. That was being a rebel. You know,
I never did drugs in my entire life. I've never
even smoked marijuana or any of that. I wasn't like
into boys until like after college. I was a late bloomer.
I was like a tomboy. I played sports and stuff
like that, but I was I did didn't want to.
I wore the baggy jeans. I was like the gwing
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I like to dress like Gwen Stefani type of situation.
So the reason, that's that's what brings me all to this.
So Gwen Stefani is the lead singer of No Doubt.
She was married to Gavin Rossdale and they met on
this tour and so Gwen and they ended up getting
divorced because Gavin cheated on her with the nanny, because
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guys are lazy and the nannyes. You know, she happened
to just be there, like Arnold Schwarzenegger with the housekeeper,
because she was there. You know, you guys are lazy. Sorry,
no offense. So Gwen Sefani got a lot of hate
recently because she was promoting that Hallow app, which is
a Christian app, right, and it's about prayer. I actually
have the app, and all she did was say, you know,
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during this holiday season, we should pray more. And so
there was all these articles written about her, slamming her, saying,
how dare she promote a pro anti abora and anti
that's what they called it. If you have the app,
nowhere does it talk about abortion. It has masses, it
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has if you want to pray the Rosary, it has
Bible stories. It does never talks about abortion. And so
again this is how the left manipulates. You look at
the Huffington Post, you look at all these articles, and
that's what it said. Gwen Stefani. You know her famous
song is don't speak. She needs to stop speaking as
she promotes anti abortion app. It's because she's a Catholic.
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And this is what happens with people. We're attacked for
our religion. We're attacked if you say you know, people
are offended. Apparently if you say Merry Christmas. And this
comedian he became he kind of went viral. I gotta
I'll play it for you tomorrow. I'm filling in for
Jesse tomorrow too. And he said, you know what, I'm
not going to say Merry Christmas anymore. I'm going to
say to everybody, may we all celebrate the birth of
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the One True Savior, the Son of God, who is
Jesus Christ. And maybe that's what we need to start
saying instead of just saying Merry Christmas. Maybe we all
celebrate the birthday of the One True Lord, our Savior,
Jesus Christ, and then maybe people won't get so offensive.
Maybe that's what we need to do from now on.
But I wanted you to listen to jd Vance. He
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said that we are essentially a Christian nation and that's
what this country is about. Whether people like it or not,
this is a Christian nation in one nation under God,
I believe. So take a listen clip number three.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
The only thing that is truly served as an anchor
of the United States of America is that we have been,
and by the grace of God, we always will be,
a Christian nation.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, why was that offensive? And you have President Trump
saying Merry Christmas. They put a Nativity scene, that's what
that's what this holiday is about. I saw Dana Carvey,
you know, the guy from SNL. He even pointed it out.
He was on I believe with David Spade. They won't
call it a Christmas tree. They call it a holiday tree,
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Chris Christmas. Even my child, she goes to a public school.
They said, oh, enjoy the holiday, and it says it
on the calendar holiday. They won't allow you can't say
it's Christmas. I mean, this is you know, we got
to push back. We got to push back, and you know,
but and at what point, you know, I saw I
say Merry Christmas if I know the person is Jewish. Yeah,
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I still say Merry Christmas because it's my holiday. I mean,
is Honakah still going on? I mean I could say
happy Hankah. I don't have a problem. It just ended.
Hanakah just ended. So yeah, I just say Merry Christmas
because it is. It's Christmas. And I'll say I won't
say like something else, it's Happy New Year. It's Merry Christmas.
It's my holiday. And if it's their holiday, I'll say
it's their holiday like Muslims got to bite them whatever,
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So whoa whatever. So it's my holiday, it's our holiday.
Merry Christmas, the One True Savior, our Lord Jesus Christ
celebrating his birth. Maybe that's what we'll say. So when
we come back, we'll continue to talk about our faith,
what's going on in the world, and why we need
to stand up for ourselves. We're also going to talk
about Nancy Pelosi, which she thinks should happen with Joe
(09:20):
Biden and how amazing he is. Don't go anywhere. You
are listening to the Jesse Kelly Show. I'm Lydia Sarrane
and we'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
This is a Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Welcome back to the Jesse Kelly Show. That is my girl,
Gwen Stefani. She's on, you know, under attack for being
a Christian, for talking about her faith. Yeah, it's just
it's so ridiculous. I just saw this. I saw this
article that I'm sure you guys haven't heard about it either.
Because that's what I like to do. I want people
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when they watch my shows they listen to me that
they say, you know what that Lydia had said, because
I feel like a lot of the truth stories that
matter to people aren't getting out there. And I saw
this story. Christian NFL players call for action against religious
persecution in Nigeria. The lives at stake cannot wait more
than sixty current and former NFL players are banding together
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and urging action from the US against the ongoing religious
persecution in Nigeria. The presidents, they sent the players sent
the President a letter to high ranking government officials, including
of course the President, as well as House Speaker Mike Johnson.
The letter rights, Religious and ethnic persecution in Nigeria has
reached a level that demands immediate, concrete action from the
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United States. And it's you know, among the sixty current
and former NFL players, you know, it's just it's unbelievable.
There's a lot of them. There's a lot of them
from Houston, the New York Giants, Sawbrock Party, San Francisco,
forty nine Ers, CJ. CJ. Stroud, Houston Texans, Trayvon Henderson,
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New England Patriots, you name it. The Letter Rights. As
men who have been entrusted with a public platform through
the National Football League, we feel a moral responsibility to
speak for those whose cries have gone on answered for
far too long. So nobody talks about it, about what's
going on in Nigeria, that there is kids are being
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you know, Boko Haram, that is an Islamic terror group.
They'll just say, oh, it's warlords, they're fighting, they're infighting.
Nobody wants to say, what's really happening. And what's really
happening is you've got Islamic radicals that are chopping people's
heads off and they're kidnapping children, school children, killing priests
and nuns, you name it. Nobody wants to talk about it.
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Why is that? Why is it? Is it because they're black?
Maybe they don't care. You see, Democrats only care about
black people. They if they can manipulate them to vote
for them, that's all they care to because at the
end of the day, if you think about it, at welfare,
all of the this is institutionalized racism. That's why they
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they want. They want black people to be under their thumb.
They don't want to lift up. The Democrat Party doesn't
want to lift up black people. If they did, they
wouldn't want this revolving door of justice when it comes
to crime. Because although we're seeing I just talked about
it before, a lot of white women, women in general
are being are victimized by these career criminals. The majority
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of crime victims are people of color because the majority
of people committing the crime are people of color, and
they do it to their own people. That's what they
do because it's happening. Usually it's with gangs. And we're
seeing in Chicago the number one killer of young black
men is other young black men. I mean, that's a fact,
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but they don't talk about that. So think about it.
If Democrats really cared about young black men, why wouldn't
they put the bad ones away that are killing the
other ones. Why aren't they doing that? I don't know.
And then so they don't care. They don't care. If
they cared about black people, Nigerians they're black. Why don't
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they care? Because it doesn't fit the narrative they care
if they're maybe you know what, maybe they would care
about the Nigerians if they wanted to be trans right,
if it fits their agenda, maybe then they'll care. Sonny Houstin,
she's another black woman married to a cuck white guy.
See you see the trends here, right, you see the
trends of these women of color. They say, you know, oh,
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this and that, and then their partner is a white dude, right,
I think he's white if he's not regardless, he's a loser.
Clip number thirteen. Here's what she said.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
This is a country based on racism and slavery and
founding it founded in it. There is systemic racism and misogyny.
So you have a president who traffics and misogyny, who
traffics and zeno phobia, who track fix in sexism, and
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one and any one and one against a black woman.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
So don't tell me that that's kind a.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Black one man.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Don't tell me this country is there.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
This country has only had one black male president.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
There's a we will say another black Oh my god.
By the way, Sunny Houston is married to a guy
that's half half white. So I was close. But he
still looks like a loser. This is you know, she's
taller than him. He looks like a tiny little little man,
little little man. But yeah, look at that. It's always oh, misogyny,
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it's always this. It's like, come on, give me a break.
It's it's you, just you. They they, they, they really
think black people are stupid. It's really disgusting. And the
whole dee I think I think it hurts black people
more more than anybody. And and Latino people. It hurts
them more than anybody because you know, if you step
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onto a plane and your pilot's black, you can't help
but think, oh my god, did this person get the
job because they're black? Because they had a quota to phill. See,
people don't talk about That's why we have a shortage
of air traffic controllers and pilots, because they have quotas
to fill. So you have to be They have to
make it diverse. That's why President Trump, it's like, why
do we even have what color you are on your
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forms or for school. I remember one of my cousins.
He was like number one ranked in his class, and
his dream was to go to Harvard, and he didn't
get in even though he was like number one ranked
and did all these extracurricular activities, this and that because
he's white. Because he's white, even though his parents, like mine,
fled a communist nation and he didn't even speak English
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growing up and all these and that. But meanwhile, he
told me this kid that was black that was ranked
like forty got in, and meanwhile, that kid was American
for generations. So think about it. If we want to
help people get a leg up, why wouldn't you help,
say the kid who is an immigrant who faced all
these adversities, Why just because you're black you face adversity.
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That's BS, that's BS. You have a lot of you
have a lot of black people. You have black people
here that they've been It's it's not my fault that
you've been here. Your family's been here for generations. It's
just unbelievable that this this mentality, this victim mentality, it continues.
And I know here in New York City, a lot
of them have the public housing. A lot of black people,
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you see it, they live in the public housing. And
and it's it's almost like success is de incentivized. So
a lot of them they they purposely don't get another
job or don't want to get a higher paying job
because then they're going to lose the free housing. So
what they do is they'll get a side cash job.
And what could be a side cash job, it's usually
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something you know, dabbling into a legal activities. So that
is another thing. So if we wanted to help, say
you know, lower income communities or people of color, why
don't we say to them, hey, well we'll pay for
the schooling for this for that. Instead it's like, the
poorer you are, the worse you are at life, the
bigger the loser you are, the more the government wants
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to give you. We should be doing the opposite. We
should be incentivizing people that are successful and not doing
the opposite. But that's what we're doing this country. When
we come back, we're going to talk to Father Pavone.
We're gonna talk about Christianity. We're gonna talk about our faith.
We're going to talk about Christmas and more. This is
a Jesse Kelly Show. I am Lydia soarran.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I Jesse Kelly Vaccian.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Welcome back to the Jesse Kelly Show. I am Lydia
Soarani filling in for Jesse Kelly. You can follow me
on social media at Lydia News l I d I
A n WS. I'm watching We got Fox News on here,
Brian Kilmead, who is a really great guy. He's talking
about the sixty Minutes Report with Sharon el Fonsi. I
talked about it earlier in today's show. So Sharon if
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A Fonsi is really wonderful woman. At least when I
was in my early twenties and she brought me out
on my first like they call them stand ups. Very
nice person, but she's upset because Barry Weiss. She is moderate,
she leans to the right. She shelved the CBS piece
because she felt like it wasn't balanced, and now people
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are threatening to quit. I worked at CBS for five years.
I was my first TV like well, I was at
The View too, believe that I was an intern at
The View, and then I worked at CBS. I was
a production assistant for the early show, and then I
worked for Dan Rather for several years. I got to
know him well, and he's a hardcore lefty. And when
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I was there, you know, as a young person, I
was in the middle. And I'll admit it. And I
got hit for this because I said this on TV.
I voted for Barack Obama. I did I know. Now
people are parently turning it off, but no, I was
a kid. I was young, and I was like hope
and change for the future. And then I didn't vote
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for him. The second time I did not, and I've
been on the right path ever since. But you know,
you are naive as a young person. You are naive,
you are impressionable. You don't understand, and so that's why
when I hear we didn't have this when I was
growing up. I'm sure you guys didn't either, about this
whole trans craziness. So you can't get a tattoo, you
can't buy beer, you can't buy wine, you can't get
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you know, all these crazy things you can And yet
if you want hormones, if you want surgery, we know
of twelve year olds that are getting missectomies. And this
is what's happening. And now you have RFK Junior who
wants who has made it now illegal to chop off
a child's body parts and he's getting hit for it.
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Clip number five.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
The Trump administration will not stand by well ideology, misinformation,
and propaganda push vulnerable young people into decisions they cannot
fully understand and that they can never reverse. On my watch,
HHS will stay and for radical transparency and informed consent.
We follow the evidence, We employed gold standard science. We
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honor the moral obligation to do no harm. There is
divine worth in every person. It shines most brightly in
our children. That worth commands us to protect them. And
as long as I serve as HHS Secretary, this agency
will do so. President Trump has made child protection ain't
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national priority. Make our Children Healthy Against strategy demonstrates that
commitment sex rejecting procedures rob children of their futures. So
today we are taking six the sidsive actions guided by
gold standard science, and the week one executive order from
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President Trump to protect children from chemical and surgical mutilation.
This morning I signed a declaration sex rejecting procedures are
neither safe nor effective treatment for children with gender dysphoria.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
There you have it. There you have it now, And
he's getting hate from the left for speaking the truth.
It's gender dysphoria. These people are confused, they need help
these young children, and the parents are upset, so they
bring the child to a psychiatrist who tells them, well,
would you rather have alive son or a you know,
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or a dead daughter?
Speaker 3 (21:27):
You know?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
This is what they do. They scare the parents. So
on with me right now? Is Father provoone, Father Frank Pavone.
He is a he was ordained in nineteen eighty eight.
He's a director for Priests for Life, a national co
chair pro Life Voices for Trump. Father Provone, thank you
so much for joining us.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Hey, Lydia, It's always great to be on with you.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Thank you for having me so, Father Provone, you got
kicked out of the priesthood, you know, not for anything bad,
but for speaking the truth. You got hate for speaking
the truth because of a radical church leaders. Tell about it.
You advocate for the unborn, you advocate for children, because
that's who is the unborn, and you got hate for it.
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You risked it all for it. And this is what
we keep seeing, people that are being persecuted for speaking
the truth. So tell us what happened.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Well, yes, I back in the well. I've been involved
in the Prolge Moved since nineteen seventy six. I was
a teenager when I got involved in the movement. Then
I also felt the call to the priesthood. And as
a priest, you know, I was speaking out against abortion
very very strongly, and the a few years into my priesthood,
I said, I want to devote myself to this full
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time and the church at that time I was under
Cardinal John O'Connor in New York. They said, yes, they
gave me permission to lead this ministry priest for Life.
And you know, for the next three decades I did
this a full time and until I got to the
point where you know, the ministry was becoming very, very large,
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very effective, and that threatned some of the left leaning
members of the hierarchy, who, as my canonical advisor told me,
what they cannot control, they kill. So they tried to
limit our ministry. That it didn't succeed because people support
our work all around the country. And so when they
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didn't succeed in destroying the ministry, they took away my priesthood.
I still lead the ministry. It's still growing because Lydia
like you like you're saying the war it is actually
a war against children which is going on. That's not
just you know, my opinion, your opinion. You know, Saint
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John Paul the second wrote about this back when when
when he was pope, but he died in twenty five
and and he said, yes, there's a deliberate war going
on of the strong against the weak, and whether these
children are in womb or whether they are in our schools,
there's a terrible war. It's the same that it's the
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war against marriage. It's a war against the family. It's
a war against the innocence of young life. And when
we speak up about that, that's those same warriors in
the radical left culture of death are going to treat us,
the advocates for these children, in the same way that
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they treat the children themselves. They will try to obliterate
us in one way or another.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Again, we're speaking with father Frank Pavone and mother Teresa
again she is our Albanian hero. She talked about abortion.
She said, I quote, I feel the greatest destroyer of
peace today is abortion, because it is a war against
the child, a direct killing of the innocent child, murdered
by the mother herself. And if we can accept that
a mother can kill even her own child, how can
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we tell other people not to kill one another? How
do we persuade a woman not to have an abortion?
As always, we must persuade her with love, and we
must remind ourselves that love means to be willing to
give until it hurts. And yet, and we know the
number one killer of young of black babies is abortion.
And again you have the Democrat party that advocates for
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the killing of children. I mean, what do you think,
Father Pavone is Can you be a Christian and be
a Democrat?
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Not anymore? Certainly there was a time when you could.
And the reason that we say this is is not
to judge any particular person. I know that obviously. I
mean in my own life and the lives of you know,
so many of our listeners. You know, we know people
who identify as Democrats who we say, wait a minute,
these are very good people, They're very Christian people. When
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we say this, we're not judging any particular individual. What
we're saying is that being a Christian means that you
embrace certain teachings. One of them we're talking about now,
the sanctity of life, and there are many other teachings,
the meaning of marriage, the meaning of family, and and
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and many other moral stances as well. Christianity has a content.
It's not just oh, I pray to God. I believe
in Jesus. Jesus taught certain specific things. He established a
church which teaches very specific things. So it's not you know,
I let me just put the label on myself and
I'll invent whatever I want to believe. It has a content.
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Then you look at the Democrat party, it has a
content too. There are certain dogmas, there are certain positions
in the platform and in the in the what has
become the you might say, the ideological uh practice and
commitment of the Democrat Party, and one of those things
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is to unlimited abortion. I mean, find me a Democrat
that says there should be certain limits on even late
term abortion, and you know, I'll give you a prize
because they're awful hard to find. We're talking about, you know,
the people you know, in in positions, in public positions.
So this is why what you just said is is true.
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You cannot be not in our day and age.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Don't go anywhere, father Pavon. We're going to continue this conversation.
If you guys remember former Speaker Nancy Pelosi. She was
denied communion the Eucharist, which we Catholics believe is the
body of Christ. This was by a San Francisco Archbishop,
Salvatore Cordolioni. He publicly stated in May twenty twenty two
that she was barred from receiving Holy Communion because of
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her persistent support of killing the unborn unfettered. She wanted
you to be able. She still believes it. So this
woman's going to burn in hell. We're going to talk
a little bit more about her, because you know, I mean,
I'm not here to judge. I know, Father, you don't
judge people. I judge her. I think she's a horrible
discussing human being. When we return, stay there, father, don't
go anywhere. We're going to continue talking about this and
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why Christian persecution continues to be ignored, but not by
President Trump. He is he is looking into it. We're
gonna get to the bottom of it. Don't go anywhere.
I'm Lydia Soarran I in for Jesse Kelly, and we're
going to be right.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Back truth Attitude.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Jesse Kelly, Welcome back to the Jesse Kelly Show. I
am Lydia Soarran I at Lydia News l I d
I A n e WS. It's been so amazing to
be on with you guys this evening. I'll be back
tomorrow to fill in for Jesse again. We were talking
before about Nancy Pelosi and what a disgrace she is
and she claims to be a Catholics like Joe Biden.
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Here's I want you to clip nine. Here's what she
said about Joe Biden. She was talking to sixty minutes correspondent,
listen to this.
Speaker 7 (28:46):
Such a consequential president of the United States, a Mount
Rushmore kind of president of the United States. Want to
know what comes next, that he belongs up there on
Mount Rushmore Lincoln. And but you got Teddy Roosevelt up there,
and he's wonderful. I don't say take him down, but
you can add Biden.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
She's so crazy, she's father provone. Why is it that
the church is so for not I don't even want
to say it's forgiving, so permissible when it comes to
people that openly contradict fundamentally what the church stands for
and what Jesus Christ himself would be vehemently against. So
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why allow people like Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi in
these and Kathy Hokel who claims to be Catholics, Why
allow them to get to allow them to receive the
Body of Christ? What kind of message does that send?
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Well, Lydia, it's bad leadership. And you know that's actually
how our ministry arose. Some years ago, I got into
a big public spat with Nancy Pelosi because in a
press conference where she was asked about legislation limiting late
term abortion and whether she'd be in favor of that,
she starts off by saying, oh, well, you know, I'm
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a sincere practicing Catholic, you know, and then when people
started pointing out myself included that, wait a minute, your
position contradicts the very Catholic faith you claim to embrace.
You know what her response was, Oh, well, you know
this is a private matter, you know, between me and God,
and you know my bishop and my priest. I said,
wait one minute. You are the one who said you're
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a faithful, practicing Catholic. At that moment, you made your
faith a public matter, and and you said that in
reference to a piece of legislation. You could have just
addressed the legislation. You could have just addressed the fact
that your party and your policies allow killing a healthy
baby carried by a healthy mother in the seventh, eighth,
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and ninth months of pregnancy. But no, you didn't want
to address the merits of the issue. You wanted to
try to hide behind your oh, faithful, sincere practicing Catholic.
You didn't have to bring up your faith at all.
I say the same thing about Joe Biden. You know,
Oh I carried to Rosary and oh I received. You know,
why do we care about that? We elected you to
be a president, not a pastor. Tell us about the
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policy and try to justify So the bottom line is Lydia.
You know why these people feel so confident in invoking
their Catholicism and taking positions completely contrary to Catholicism because
they have got priests that they go to who are
misleading them. They're not coming to this on their own.
They're not theologians. They're relying on on priests who are
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telling them, oh, you know, don't worry, there's justification for
taking these positions. That's why I lead a ministry called
Priests for Life, because which time there's need for reform
in the church. Just like we've got weak and cowardly
politicians that will talk and talk and talk and you
don't know what in the world they just said. So
we have the same problem in the pulpit where you've
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got this vacuous, cowardly beating around the bush. They're they're
talking and and and they're not changing anyone. They're not
challenging anyone. It's all this feel good garbage. No, we
need renewal within the clergy. Just we need the spirit
that President Trump has brought into the political world and
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the fight fight fight, and the clear talking and and
the and the and the kind of talking that resonates
with the hearts and passions of the American people sitting
in their living rooms. This is what we need coming
from the pulpit, and that's what our ministry tries to do,
and it includes challenging exactly the problem you are just
bringing out in the in the in the likes of
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Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden and unfortunately a whole bunch
of others at various levels of government.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Father Frank Pavone, I always love having you on and
where again can people find you and reach you and
talk to you because you are just I love the
way you are just such a defender, of course of
the unborn, but also of the truth.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Well, thank you. I'm at f are Frank Pavone on
all the social media platforms f R Frank Pavone and
our main website is pro life Central dot org, pro
Lifecentral dot org.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Father Pavone, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Thank you, Thanks Lydia.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
God bless God, bless everyone out there listening to this.
You know there is even these nativity displays. I saw
it in I think it's Metam, Massachusetts, where they said,
oh Mary they had they don't have Mary and Jesus there.
We all know that baby Jesus isn't there until Christmas Day,
but they don't even have Marry and Jesus. And they said, oh,
it's because of ice. And the archdiocese told them to
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put them, to put them back, and they were the
priest is refusing, you know, they stop comparing what's going
on with Mary and Jesus and Joseph, because they were
not illegal aliens. They were going to Egypt, they left Bethlehem.
They were going to answer for a census. So stop
with the lies, stop with the bs. Stands up for
the truth. And I actually go to a different church
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now because my priest was spewing these stupid knights on
sensical lies about migrants and this and that. You know,
it's at the end of the day, you just gotta
call it like it is and speak the truth. Because
what did you to say, I'm the Way, the truth,
and the light right. He didn't say, I'm not going
to tell you the truth if it hurts your feelings.
So it's been an awesome experience being with you guys.
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As always again, I'm Lydia Saran I Lydia News l
I d I A N e w S. God bless
you guys, Merry Christmas. I look forward to talking to
you tomorrow, and have a great and blessed night, and
trust and remember that God is with you and always always,
This is the Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome back to the Jesse Kelly Show. That is my uh,
that's Gavin Rossdale, machine Head Bush. I've seen I've gone
to see him multiple times, Gavin Rossdale. So you can
tell I'm a millennial, right. My first concert I ever
went to in my life, I was sixteen years old. Sixteen, Yeah,
I was sixteen. And by the way, this is Lydia
(00:37):
Saran I filling in for Jesse Kelly again. You can
follow me on social media at Lydia News l I
d I A n e WS and you can watch
me on Newsmax. I was a reporter at Fox five
for several years. Then I was at WABC Radio in
New York City, and now I'm at Newsmax Saturday's at
five o'clock five pm Eastern and then Sundays at noon Eastern.
(00:58):
I'm filling in for Carl Higbee this Bride at six
pm Eastern, and so I fill in on primetime usually
during the week. So when I was sixteen years old,
I stole my parents minivan, I got my license, I
got my permit, and I had never you ever see
that movie Clueless where the girls are on the Highway
and they started screaming like that was me. And So
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I went to high school in the Bronx Cardinals Spelmane
and so I never and I lived in Yonkers at
the time, so it was like a ten minute drive
and I never drove on the highway before. So I
stole my parents minivan and we loaded up all the
I loaded up all my friends, these girls because I
was obsessed with Bush and they were playing at Jones
(01:42):
Beach and I had to drive on the l IE
the Long Island Expressway. I mean, I remember, I'd never
even been to Long Island before. The only beach I
would go to when I was sixteen, you know, living
in the Bronx and Yonkers was Orchard Beach, which is
was a nasty beach. They actually kind of cleaned it up.
So I had never been to Jones Beach. I had
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never and here I was like driving with like a
van full of girls on our way and the concert
was epic.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
The lead the lead act was the Google was Google Dolls, right,
Google Dolls, then No Doubt and Bush. And this was
late nineties. This was the height of Gavin Rossdale, the
epitome of hotness and He's like sixty years old now
and I still go and see him. My husband is aware.
He's come with me, and I swear Gavin Rossdale every
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time I'm in the pit too. I'm one of those freaks.
I'm one of those people that just I have to
be like by the stage, I get all into it.
I get into the zone. I know all the songs
and we always make eye contact. Gavin Rossdale and not
in my mind, I have this like I think he
knows who I am, and I met him just like
at the concert, like you know, I've touched him and
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stuff like that. You know, don't don't get any I'm
not that kind of way I touched him. But anyway,
I like alternative music like Pearl Jam and that kind
of stuff, and you know, that's that's my jam, that's
my jam. So you normally that's like a not a
normal thing for a girl from the Bronx to love
alternative music and hard music. But that's what I like.
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Guns n' Roses, all that kind of stuff from back then.
And I feel like nowadays there isn't that kind of
good music like the bands like can you I don't know,
can you guys think I say I don't have a
call screener because we're bare bones because it's the holidays,
and that I would because I would love to hear
from everybody. You could tell me on social media at
Lydia News l I D I A N e WS.
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There there are no good new bands anymore, back in
the day, the Nirvana's and stuff like that. There where
are those rock bands? What has happened green Day? And
people say to me, they're like, well, green Day has
leftist or this pearl jam. I don't care. I don't care.
I don't care what your politics are. I really don't
be as long as you still play that really good,
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amazing music. I know. I know that guy what's his name,
Billy or something like that for Green Day he talks
smack about Trump. I don't care. I still love the music.
I still listen to the Spotify Imagine Dragons. I kind
of like them. So anyway, that's that's my story. So
now you kind of understand where how I am. So
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I grew up in a very strict household my parents. First,
you know, I didn't even speak English growing up. My
sister got married very early, she was told to. And
so here they have this daughter who wants to be
a news reporter, and you know, I stole their van
to go see a concert. So I was like this rebel,
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Like that was rebel. That was being a rebel. You know,
I never did drugs in my entire life. I've never
even smoked marijuana or any of that. I wasn't like
into boys until like after college. I was a late bloomer.
I was like a tomboy. I played sports and stuff
like that, but I was I did didn't want to.
I wore the baggy jeans. I was like the gwing
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I like to dress like Gwen Stefani type of situation.
So the reason, that's that's what brings me all to this.
So Gwen Stefani is the lead singer of No Doubt.
She was married to Gavin Rossdale and they met on
this tour and so Gwen and they ended up getting
divorced because Gavin cheated on her with the nanny, because
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guys are lazy and the nannyes. You know, she happened
to just be there, like Arnold Schwarzenegger with the housekeeper,
because she was there. You know, you guys are lazy. Sorry,
no offense. So Gwen Sefani got a lot of hate
recently because she was promoting that Hallow app, which is
a Christian app, right, and it's about prayer. I actually
have the app, and all she did was say, you know,
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during this holiday season, we should pray more. And so
there was all these articles written about her, slamming her, saying,
how dare she promote a pro anti abora and anti
that's what they called it. If you have the app,
nowhere does it talk about abortion. It has masses, it
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has if you want to pray the Rosary, it has
Bible stories. It does never talks about abortion. And so
again this is how the left manipulates. You look at
the Huffington Post, you look at all these articles, and
that's what it said. Gwen Stefani. You know her famous
song is don't speak. She needs to stop speaking as
she promotes anti abortion app. It's because she's a Catholic.
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And this is what happens with people. We're attacked for
our religion. We're attacked if you say you know, people
are offended. Apparently if you say Merry Christmas. And this
comedian he became he kind of went viral. I gotta
I'll play it for you tomorrow. I'm filling in for
Jesse tomorrow too. And he said, you know what, I'm
not going to say Merry Christmas anymore. I'm going to
say to everybody, may we all celebrate the birth of
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the One True Savior, the Son of God, who is
Jesus Christ. And maybe that's what we need to start
saying instead of just saying Merry Christmas. Maybe we all
celebrate the birthday of the One True Lord, our Savior,
Jesus Christ, and then maybe people won't get so offensive.
Maybe that's what we need to do from now on.
But I wanted you to listen to jd Vance. He
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said that we are essentially a Christian nation and that's
what this country is about. Whether people like it or not,
this is a Christian nation in one nation under God,
I believe. So take a listen clip number three.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
The only thing that is truly served as an anchor
of the United States of America is that we have been,
and by the grace of God, we always will be,
a Christian nation.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, why was that offensive? And you have President Trump
saying Merry Christmas. They put a Nativity scene, that's what
that's what this holiday is about. I saw Dana Carvey,
you know, the guy from SNL. He even pointed it out.
He was on I believe with David Spade. They won't
call it a Christmas tree. They call it a holiday tree,
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Chris Christmas. Even my child, she goes to a public school.
They said, oh, enjoy the holiday, and it says it
on the calendar holiday. They won't allow you can't say
it's Christmas. I mean, this is you know, we got
to push back. We got to push back, and you know,
but and at what point, you know, I saw I
say Merry Christmas if I know the person is Jewish. Yeah,
(08:36):
I still say Merry Christmas because it's my holiday. I mean,
is Honakah still going on? I mean I could say
happy Hankah. I don't have a problem. It just ended.
Hanakah just ended. So yeah, I just say Merry Christmas
because it is. It's Christmas. And I'll say I won't
say like something else, it's Happy New Year. It's Merry Christmas.
It's my holiday. And if it's their holiday, I'll say
it's their holiday like Muslims got to bite them whatever,
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So whoa whatever. So it's my holiday, it's our holiday.
Merry Christmas, the One True Savior, our Lord Jesus Christ
celebrating his birth. Maybe that's what we'll say. So when
we come back, we'll continue to talk about our faith,
what's going on in the world, and why we need
to stand up for ourselves. We're also going to talk
about Nancy Pelosi, which she thinks should happen with Joe
(09:20):
Biden and how amazing he is. Don't go anywhere. You
are listening to the Jesse Kelly Show. I'm Lydia Sarrane
and we'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
This is a Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Welcome back to the Jesse Kelly Show. That is my girl,
Gwen Stefani. She's on, you know, under attack for being
a Christian, for talking about her faith. Yeah, it's just
it's so ridiculous. I just saw this. I saw this
article that I'm sure you guys haven't heard about it either.
Because that's what I like to do. I want people
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when they watch my shows they listen to me that
they say, you know what that Lydia had said, because
I feel like a lot of the truth stories that
matter to people aren't getting out there. And I saw
this story. Christian NFL players call for action against religious
persecution in Nigeria. The lives at stake cannot wait more
than sixty current and former NFL players are banding together
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and urging action from the US against the ongoing religious
persecution in Nigeria. The presidents, they sent the players sent
the President a letter to high ranking government officials, including
of course the President, as well as House Speaker Mike Johnson.
The letter rights, Religious and ethnic persecution in Nigeria has
reached a level that demands immediate, concrete action from the
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United States. And it's you know, among the sixty current
and former NFL players, you know, it's just it's unbelievable.
There's a lot of them. There's a lot of them
from Houston, the New York Giants, Sawbrock Party, San Francisco,
forty nine Ers, CJ. CJ. Stroud, Houston Texans, Trayvon Henderson,
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New England Patriots, you name it. The Letter Rights. As
men who have been entrusted with a public platform through
the National Football League, we feel a moral responsibility to
speak for those whose cries have gone on answered for
far too long. So nobody talks about it, about what's
going on in Nigeria, that there is kids are being
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you know, Boko Haram, that is an Islamic terror group.
They'll just say, oh, it's warlords, they're fighting, they're infighting.
Nobody wants to say, what's really happening. And what's really
happening is you've got Islamic radicals that are chopping people's
heads off and they're kidnapping children, school children, killing priests
and nuns, you name it. Nobody wants to talk about it.
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Why is that? Why is it? Is it because they're black?
Maybe they don't care. You see, Democrats only care about
black people. They if they can manipulate them to vote
for them, that's all they care to because at the
end of the day, if you think about it, at welfare,
all of the this is institutionalized racism. That's why they
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they want. They want black people to be under their thumb.
They don't want to lift up. The Democrat Party doesn't
want to lift up black people. If they did, they
wouldn't want this revolving door of justice when it comes
to crime. Because although we're seeing I just talked about
it before, a lot of white women, women in general
are being are victimized by these career criminals. The majority
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of crime victims are people of color because the majority
of people committing the crime are people of color, and
they do it to their own people. That's what they
do because it's happening. Usually it's with gangs. And we're
seeing in Chicago the number one killer of young black
men is other young black men. I mean, that's a fact,
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but they don't talk about that. So think about it.
If Democrats really cared about young black men, why wouldn't
they put the bad ones away that are killing the
other ones. Why aren't they doing that? I don't know.
And then so they don't care. They don't care. If
they cared about black people, Nigerians they're black. Why don't
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they care? Because it doesn't fit the narrative they care
if they're maybe you know what, maybe they would care
about the Nigerians if they wanted to be trans right,
if it fits their agenda, maybe then they'll care. Sonny Houstin,
she's another black woman married to a cuck white guy.
See you see the trends here, right, you see the
trends of these women of color. They say, you know, oh,
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this and that, and then their partner is a white dude, right,
I think he's white if he's not regardless, he's a loser.
Clip number thirteen. Here's what she said.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
This is a country based on racism and slavery and
founding it founded in it. There is systemic racism and misogyny.
So you have a president who traffics and misogyny, who
traffics and zeno phobia, who track fix in sexism, and
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one and any one and one against a black woman.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
So don't tell me that that's kind a.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Black one man.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Don't tell me this country is there.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
This country has only had one black male president.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
There's a we will say another black Oh my god.
By the way, Sunny Houston is married to a guy
that's half half white. So I was close. But he
still looks like a loser. This is you know, she's
taller than him. He looks like a tiny little little man,
little little man. But yeah, look at that. It's always oh, misogyny,
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it's always this. It's like, come on, give me a break.
It's it's you, just you. They they, they, they really
think black people are stupid. It's really disgusting. And the
whole dee I think I think it hurts black people
more more than anybody. And and Latino people. It hurts
them more than anybody because you know, if you step
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onto a plane and your pilot's black, you can't help
but think, oh my god, did this person get the
job because they're black? Because they had a quota to phill. See,
people don't talk about That's why we have a shortage
of air traffic controllers and pilots, because they have quotas
to fill. So you have to be They have to
make it diverse. That's why President Trump, it's like, why
do we even have what color you are on your
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forms or for school. I remember one of my cousins.
He was like number one ranked in his class, and
his dream was to go to Harvard, and he didn't
get in even though he was like number one ranked
and did all these extracurricular activities, this and that because
he's white. Because he's white, even though his parents, like mine,
fled a communist nation and he didn't even speak English
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growing up and all these and that. But meanwhile, he
told me this kid that was black that was ranked
like forty got in, and meanwhile, that kid was American
for generations. So think about it. If we want to
help people get a leg up, why wouldn't you help,
say the kid who is an immigrant who faced all
these adversities, Why just because you're black you face adversity.
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That's BS, that's BS. You have a lot of you
have a lot of black people. You have black people
here that they've been It's it's not my fault that
you've been here. Your family's been here for generations. It's
just unbelievable that this this mentality, this victim mentality, it continues.
And I know here in New York City, a lot
of them have the public housing. A lot of black people,
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you see it, they live in the public housing. And
and it's it's almost like success is de incentivized. So
a lot of them they they purposely don't get another
job or don't want to get a higher paying job
because then they're going to lose the free housing. So
what they do is they'll get a side cash job.
And what could be a side cash job, it's usually
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something you know, dabbling into a legal activities. So that
is another thing. So if we wanted to help, say
you know, lower income communities or people of color, why
don't we say to them, hey, well we'll pay for
the schooling for this for that. Instead it's like, the
poorer you are, the worse you are at life, the
bigger the loser you are, the more the government wants
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to give you. We should be doing the opposite. We
should be incentivizing people that are successful and not doing
the opposite. But that's what we're doing this country. When
we come back, we're going to talk to Father Pavone.
We're gonna talk about Christianity. We're gonna talk about our faith.
We're going to talk about Christmas and more. This is
a Jesse Kelly Show. I am Lydia soarran.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I Jesse Kelly Vaccian.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Welcome back to the Jesse Kelly Show. I am Lydia
Soarani filling in for Jesse Kelly. You can follow me
on social media at Lydia News l I d I
A n WS. I'm watching We got Fox News on here,
Brian Kilmead, who is a really great guy. He's talking
about the sixty Minutes Report with Sharon el Fonsi. I
talked about it earlier in today's show. So Sharon if
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A Fonsi is really wonderful woman. At least when I
was in my early twenties and she brought me out
on my first like they call them stand ups. Very
nice person, but she's upset because Barry Weiss. She is moderate,
she leans to the right. She shelved the CBS piece
because she felt like it wasn't balanced, and now people
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are threatening to quit. I worked at CBS for five years.
I was my first TV like well, I was at
The View too, believe that I was an intern at
The View, and then I worked at CBS. I was
a production assistant for the early show, and then I
worked for Dan Rather for several years. I got to
know him well, and he's a hardcore lefty. And when
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I was there, you know, as a young person, I
was in the middle. And I'll admit it. And I
got hit for this because I said this on TV.
I voted for Barack Obama. I did I know. Now
people are parently turning it off, but no, I was
a kid. I was young, and I was like hope
and change for the future. And then I didn't vote
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for him. The second time I did not, and I've
been on the right path ever since. But you know,
you are naive as a young person. You are naive,
you are impressionable. You don't understand, and so that's why
when I hear we didn't have this when I was
growing up. I'm sure you guys didn't either, about this
whole trans craziness. So you can't get a tattoo, you
can't buy beer, you can't buy wine, you can't get
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you know, all these crazy things you can And yet
if you want hormones, if you want surgery, we know
of twelve year olds that are getting missectomies. And this
is what's happening. And now you have RFK Junior who
wants who has made it now illegal to chop off
a child's body parts and he's getting hit for it.
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Clip number five.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
The Trump administration will not stand by well ideology, misinformation,
and propaganda push vulnerable young people into decisions they cannot
fully understand and that they can never reverse. On my watch,
HHS will stay and for radical transparency and informed consent.
We follow the evidence, We employed gold standard science. We
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honor the moral obligation to do no harm. There is
divine worth in every person. It shines most brightly in
our children. That worth commands us to protect them. And
as long as I serve as HHS Secretary, this agency
will do so. President Trump has made child protection ain't
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national priority. Make our Children Healthy Against strategy demonstrates that
commitment sex rejecting procedures rob children of their futures. So
today we are taking six the sidsive actions guided by
gold standard science, and the week one executive order from
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President Trump to protect children from chemical and surgical mutilation.
This morning I signed a declaration sex rejecting procedures are
neither safe nor effective treatment for children with gender dysphoria.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
There you have it. There you have it now, And
he's getting hate from the left for speaking the truth.
It's gender dysphoria. These people are confused, they need help
these young children, and the parents are upset, so they
bring the child to a psychiatrist who tells them, well,
would you rather have alive son or a you know,
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or a dead daughter?
Speaker 3 (21:27):
You know?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
This is what they do. They scare the parents. So
on with me right now? Is Father provoone, Father Frank Pavone.
He is a he was ordained in nineteen eighty eight.
He's a director for Priests for Life, a national co
chair pro Life Voices for Trump. Father Provone, thank you
so much for joining us.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Hey, Lydia, It's always great to be on with you.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Thank you for having me so, Father Provone, you got
kicked out of the priesthood, you know, not for anything bad,
but for speaking the truth. You got hate for speaking
the truth because of a radical church leaders. Tell about it.
You advocate for the unborn, you advocate for children, because
that's who is the unborn, and you got hate for it.
(22:08):
You risked it all for it. And this is what
we keep seeing, people that are being persecuted for speaking
the truth. So tell us what happened.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Well, yes, I back in the well. I've been involved
in the Prolge Moved since nineteen seventy six. I was
a teenager when I got involved in the movement. Then
I also felt the call to the priesthood. And as
a priest, you know, I was speaking out against abortion
very very strongly, and the a few years into my priesthood,
I said, I want to devote myself to this full
(22:38):
time and the church at that time I was under
Cardinal John O'Connor in New York. They said, yes, they
gave me permission to lead this ministry priest for Life.
And you know, for the next three decades I did
this a full time and until I got to the
point where you know, the ministry was becoming very, very large,
(23:02):
very effective, and that threatned some of the left leaning
members of the hierarchy, who, as my canonical advisor told me,
what they cannot control, they kill. So they tried to
limit our ministry. That it didn't succeed because people support
our work all around the country. And so when they
(23:24):
didn't succeed in destroying the ministry, they took away my priesthood.
I still lead the ministry. It's still growing because Lydia
like you like you're saying the war it is actually
a war against children which is going on. That's not
just you know, my opinion, your opinion. You know, Saint
(23:44):
John Paul the second wrote about this back when when
when he was pope, but he died in twenty five
and and he said, yes, there's a deliberate war going
on of the strong against the weak, and whether these
children are in womb or whether they are in our schools,
there's a terrible war. It's the same that it's the
(24:07):
war against marriage. It's a war against the family. It's
a war against the innocence of young life. And when
we speak up about that, that's those same warriors in
the radical left culture of death are going to treat us,
the advocates for these children, in the same way that
(24:28):
they treat the children themselves. They will try to obliterate
us in one way or another.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Again, we're speaking with father Frank Pavone and mother Teresa
again she is our Albanian hero. She talked about abortion.
She said, I quote, I feel the greatest destroyer of
peace today is abortion, because it is a war against
the child, a direct killing of the innocent child, murdered
by the mother herself. And if we can accept that
a mother can kill even her own child, how can
(24:56):
we tell other people not to kill one another? How
do we persuade a woman not to have an abortion?
As always, we must persuade her with love, and we
must remind ourselves that love means to be willing to
give until it hurts. And yet, and we know the
number one killer of young of black babies is abortion.
And again you have the Democrat party that advocates for
(25:17):
the killing of children. I mean, what do you think,
Father Pavone is Can you be a Christian and be
a Democrat?
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Not anymore? Certainly there was a time when you could.
And the reason that we say this is is not
to judge any particular person. I know that obviously. I
mean in my own life and the lives of you know,
so many of our listeners. You know, we know people
who identify as Democrats who we say, wait a minute,
these are very good people, They're very Christian people. When
(25:49):
we say this, we're not judging any particular individual. What
we're saying is that being a Christian means that you
embrace certain teachings. One of them we're talking about now,
the sanctity of life, and there are many other teachings,
the meaning of marriage, the meaning of family, and and
(26:10):
and many other moral stances as well. Christianity has a content.
It's not just oh, I pray to God. I believe
in Jesus. Jesus taught certain specific things. He established a
church which teaches very specific things. So it's not you know,
I let me just put the label on myself and
I'll invent whatever I want to believe. It has a content.
(26:32):
Then you look at the Democrat party, it has a
content too. There are certain dogmas, there are certain positions
in the platform and in the in the what has
become the you might say, the ideological uh practice and
commitment of the Democrat Party, and one of those things
(26:52):
is to unlimited abortion. I mean, find me a Democrat
that says there should be certain limits on even late
term abortion, and you know, I'll give you a prize
because they're awful hard to find. We're talking about, you know,
the people you know, in in positions, in public positions.
So this is why what you just said is is true.
(27:14):
You cannot be not in our day and age.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Don't go anywhere, father Pavon. We're going to continue this conversation.
If you guys remember former Speaker Nancy Pelosi. She was
denied communion the Eucharist, which we Catholics believe is the
body of Christ. This was by a San Francisco Archbishop,
Salvatore Cordolioni. He publicly stated in May twenty twenty two
that she was barred from receiving Holy Communion because of
(27:38):
her persistent support of killing the unborn unfettered. She wanted
you to be able. She still believes it. So this
woman's going to burn in hell. We're going to talk
a little bit more about her, because you know, I mean,
I'm not here to judge. I know, Father, you don't
judge people. I judge her. I think she's a horrible
discussing human being. When we return, stay there, father, don't
go anywhere. We're going to continue talking about this and
(27:58):
why Christian persecution continues to be ignored, but not by
President Trump. He is he is looking into it. We're
gonna get to the bottom of it. Don't go anywhere.
I'm Lydia Soarran I in for Jesse Kelly, and we're
going to be right.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Back truth Attitude.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Jesse Kelly, Welcome back to the Jesse Kelly Show. I
am Lydia Soarran I at Lydia News l I d
I A n e WS. It's been so amazing to
be on with you guys this evening. I'll be back
tomorrow to fill in for Jesse again. We were talking
before about Nancy Pelosi and what a disgrace she is
and she claims to be a Catholics like Joe Biden.
(28:37):
Here's I want you to clip nine. Here's what she
said about Joe Biden. She was talking to sixty minutes correspondent,
listen to this.
Speaker 7 (28:46):
Such a consequential president of the United States, a Mount
Rushmore kind of president of the United States. Want to
know what comes next, that he belongs up there on
Mount Rushmore Lincoln. And but you got Teddy Roosevelt up there,
and he's wonderful. I don't say take him down, but
you can add Biden.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
She's so crazy, she's father provone. Why is it that
the church is so for not I don't even want
to say it's forgiving, so permissible when it comes to
people that openly contradict fundamentally what the church stands for
and what Jesus Christ himself would be vehemently against. So
(29:30):
why allow people like Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi in
these and Kathy Hokel who claims to be Catholics, Why
allow them to get to allow them to receive the
Body of Christ? What kind of message does that send?
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Well, Lydia, it's bad leadership. And you know that's actually
how our ministry arose. Some years ago, I got into
a big public spat with Nancy Pelosi because in a
press conference where she was asked about legislation limiting late
term abortion and whether she'd be in favor of that,
she starts off by saying, oh, well, you know, I'm
(30:02):
a sincere practicing Catholic, you know, and then when people
started pointing out myself included that, wait a minute, your
position contradicts the very Catholic faith you claim to embrace.
You know what her response was, Oh, well, you know
this is a private matter, you know, between me and God,
and you know my bishop and my priest. I said,
wait one minute. You are the one who said you're
(30:25):
a faithful, practicing Catholic. At that moment, you made your
faith a public matter, and and you said that in
reference to a piece of legislation. You could have just
addressed the legislation. You could have just addressed the fact
that your party and your policies allow killing a healthy
baby carried by a healthy mother in the seventh, eighth,
(30:48):
and ninth months of pregnancy. But no, you didn't want
to address the merits of the issue. You wanted to
try to hide behind your oh, faithful, sincere practicing Catholic.
You didn't have to bring up your faith at all.
I say the same thing about Joe Biden. You know,
Oh I carried to Rosary and oh I received. You know,
why do we care about that? We elected you to
be a president, not a pastor. Tell us about the
(31:10):
policy and try to justify So the bottom line is Lydia.
You know why these people feel so confident in invoking
their Catholicism and taking positions completely contrary to Catholicism because
they have got priests that they go to who are
misleading them. They're not coming to this on their own.
They're not theologians. They're relying on on priests who are
(31:34):
telling them, oh, you know, don't worry, there's justification for
taking these positions. That's why I lead a ministry called
Priests for Life, because which time there's need for reform
in the church. Just like we've got weak and cowardly
politicians that will talk and talk and talk and you
don't know what in the world they just said. So
we have the same problem in the pulpit where you've
(31:55):
got this vacuous, cowardly beating around the bush. They're they're
talking and and and they're not changing anyone. They're not
challenging anyone. It's all this feel good garbage. No, we
need renewal within the clergy. Just we need the spirit
that President Trump has brought into the political world and
(32:17):
the fight fight fight, and the clear talking and and
the and the and the kind of talking that resonates
with the hearts and passions of the American people sitting
in their living rooms. This is what we need coming
from the pulpit, and that's what our ministry tries to do,
and it includes challenging exactly the problem you are just
bringing out in the in the in the likes of
(32:38):
Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden and unfortunately a whole bunch
of others at various levels of government.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Father Frank Pavone, I always love having you on and
where again can people find you and reach you and
talk to you because you are just I love the
way you are just such a defender, of course of
the unborn, but also of the truth.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Well, thank you. I'm at f are Frank Pavone on
all the social media platforms f R Frank Pavone and
our main website is pro life Central dot org, pro
Lifecentral dot org.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Father Pavone, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Thank you, Thanks Lydia.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
God bless God, bless everyone out there listening to this.
You know there is even these nativity displays. I saw
it in I think it's Metam, Massachusetts, where they said,
oh Mary they had they don't have Mary and Jesus there.
We all know that baby Jesus isn't there until Christmas Day,
but they don't even have Marry and Jesus. And they said, oh,
it's because of ice. And the archdiocese told them to
(33:35):
put them, to put them back, and they were the
priest is refusing, you know, they stop comparing what's going
on with Mary and Jesus and Joseph, because they were
not illegal aliens. They were going to Egypt, they left Bethlehem.
They were going to answer for a census. So stop
with the lies, stop with the bs. Stands up for
the truth. And I actually go to a different church
(33:57):
now because my priest was spewing these stupid knights on
sensical lies about migrants and this and that. You know,
it's at the end of the day, you just gotta
call it like it is and speak the truth. Because
what did you to say, I'm the Way, the truth,
and the light right. He didn't say, I'm not going
to tell you the truth if it hurts your feelings.
So it's been an awesome experience being with you guys.
(34:17):
As always again, I'm Lydia Saran I Lydia News l
I d I A N e w S. God bless
you guys, Merry Christmas. I look forward to talking to
you tomorrow, and have a great and blessed night, and
trust and remember that God is with you and always always,
Host
Jesse Kelly
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