All Episodes

December 30, 2025 34 mins

James T. Harris fills in for Jesse. Slavery in James' back yard, Scottsdale, Arizona. Media reaction to Trump's reaction to Christians being slaughtered in Nigeria. 

Follow The Jesse Kelly Show on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheJesseKellyShow

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mark as Played
Transcript

Episode Transcript

Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is a Jesse Kelly show. You're listening to the
Jesse Kelly Show. My name is James T. Harris. I
am a talk show host out of a Phoenix, Arizona.
My show, The Conservative Circus can be heard on five
fifty camp YI in Phoenix, seven ninety KNST and Tucson,
or on the free iHeartRadio app. You can also follow

(00:34):
me on social media. Just go to my main hub
at James Tharris dot com and have added. Democrats love
to lecture America about slavery, don't they. Oh, they never
missed a chance to point the finger backwards, centuries backwards
while compete complaining, you can completely ignoring what's happening right

(00:56):
now on their own watch. Well, let's be honest, slavery
happened on their watch centuries ago too. They're still trying
to say, is the Republicans, you know, we have to
go back and we have to fight slavery because of
the Republicans we time out timeout. It was the Democrats.
It was the Southern States. They're the ones that were
trying to protect that institution. My friend. It was not

(01:18):
the It was not the Republicans. The Republican Party was
born to defeat slavery. See, they want to forget that.
They think that Jim Crow was a Republican, you know policy.
They ignored the fact that reconstruction was destroyed by Democrats.
They ignored the fact that those Republicans that came up
with forty acres and the mule Democrats. And they're ignoring

(01:44):
what's happening right now because let's be honest about what
we are living through. They opened the border. Democrats facilitate
human trafficking. Democrats looked the other way while cartails move
people like cargo. They allow children to end up working

(02:04):
overnight shifts and meat packing plants and slaughterhouses. That's not history.
That's the Democrats in America. It's amazing to me how
they can stand on their little pedestal, or in their
pulpits and preach to us about slavery while they are

(02:26):
putting together policies, putting them in place that have produced
modern day slavery. And now we're being told that modern
day labor exploitation is happening right here in my own backyard.
I'm talking about Scottsdale, Arizona, at a sushi restaurant Scott Stell,

(02:55):
Scott Stelle, one of the toniest zip codes in America.
I gotta tell you, I love it. I love living
in Scottsdale. I love the weather, I love the restaurants,
I love the people. I just love. I love slavery.
The same Democrats who scream slavery every election cycle are

(03:16):
silent when it's real, it's current, and it doesn't fit
their narrative because for them, outrage isn't about justice, now,
is it. Here's the story Secure Russ Stustie owner managers
arrested for human trafficking. This happened last week, sudden, unexplained

(03:42):
closures of three popular sushi chains located in the East
Valley and in Scottsdale. Now, federal court documents provide disturbing
answers the owner of these sushi restaurants that two of
the managers have been arrested on charges alleging they operated

(04:04):
a human trafficking and labor exploitation operation. What yes, I mean,
these are very popular locations. You got Gilbert, you got Mesa,
and then, oh my goodness, then the news hit social media.

(04:27):
Social media is all over this. And if the restaurants
ever reopened, they might have a problem.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Four houses and four sushi restaurants were rated last week
in Arizona where they discovered dozens of illegal aliens who
were working as slaves. These individuals were kept in these
small living quarters and they were transported to and from work.
That's the only place that they could go from nine
am to nine pm in a white van and when
they would get out, they'd walk from the van to

(04:55):
work with their head down. They weren't allowed to talk
to anybody, and they would work there literally all day
and then go home to these small living quarters, and
they were getting paid minimal amounts of money. Cour Sushi Phoenix,
Gilbert and Mace, Arizona and Aikida Sushi in Scottsfield. So
don't eat there, I guess unless you're a Democrat who
supports slave labor in human trafficking.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Well, I guess so if you're a Democrat, you should
feel comfortable going and eating there. You absolutely should do.
We think that these are the only communities, a couple
of communities here in Arizona that are experiences that are
facing this problem. No, not by far. It's happening everywhere.

(05:36):
But you know what, the media, once again they're not
reporting it. It may slip through here or there on
a Fox News Not really maybe Newsmax. You can find
it on social media, but boy do they stomp it
out quick. Democrats perfectly comfortable with child exploitation, perfectly comfortable

(06:02):
with child trafficking, perfectly comfortable with child slavery. And these
these sushi workers, I mean in scotsdelle. The Democrats, they

(06:23):
don't care about this. This is not an outrage them.
This has to be covered up because this is gonna,
you know, strike at their power base. This this is
about control for the Democrats. It's about using guilt as
a weapon while they enable the very abuses they claim.
They appose. If Democrats actually cared about human dignity, they'd

(06:48):
secure the border. You know, I have a friend who
works at border patrol. Horror stories, horror stories, especially down
here in the desert. I mean, even before the Biden years,
you would find dead bodies in the desert, people trying
to you know, escape, you know, trying to come to America.
But now he said, you when you see the lifeless

(07:12):
body of a child left abandoned, well you never do
see that. And this is what was happening under Biden.
This is when you had Alejandro mayorci is talking about
the border secure. No, it wasn't. Democrats don't want to

(07:36):
talk about Democrats. They weren't covered in the news. It
was horrific, the rapes, the prostitution, child prostitution. If you actually,
if Democrats actually cared about workers, they wouldn'tenforce the law.
If they actually cared about children, they stopped pretending this
is all compassionate policy. It is not. You don't get

(08:02):
to lecture we the people about slavery while running the
largest human trafficking pipeline this country has ever seen. Democrat
hipocrisy be thy name. Enough with the hypocrisy, enough with
the lies, and enough with the moral grandstanding slaves in

(08:24):
scott Still I like sushi too? What what? What? What
we these slaves? What they were doing? The work that
Americans want to do. Americans don't want to make sushi.
I know some good sushi chefs that they didn't want

(08:50):
to pay them. Can you imagine nine to nine rolling sushi?
Keep your head down, getting the white band. This is absurd,
and yet this is what the Democrats has brought us.
I am telling you, I am Ooh, you can't escape it.

(09:16):
I don't want to be a Debbie Downer. I don't
want to be a Debbie Downer, but what we're watching
in our country turn into with the Democrats, this should
be enough to just for just just sweeping them completely
out of office. The only reason they're able to sustain
themselves is because of lies, lies of omission. There's a

(09:45):
major attack going on Christians around the world. We have
President Trump that took some action in Nigeria where Christians
were slaughtered. There's a major on Christmas Day, there was
of violence against Christians in India. It's amazing how underreported

(10:08):
that is. We have the media, you know, on college campuses,
talking about the genocide that happened in Palestine. They kind
of slowed down a little bit because you know, peace
was starting to break out over in that part of
the world, so you would think that maybe they would
go on to some other genocide. But no, no, no,
they're about fakery. The genocide that's happening in Africa, that's

(10:31):
happening in India is real. We're going to talk about
that and the President's response and the liberals response to
the President's response. That's coming up next. James T. Harris
sitting it for Jesse Kelly.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Jesse Kelly returns next.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Welcome to the Jesse Kelly Show. My name is James T. Harris.
I am a talk show host out of Phoenix, Arizona.
If you want to follow me on social just go
to James T. Harris dot com and all of my
socialo is there. Let me tell you something about corporate media.
You already know this. They barely whisper about this. They'll

(11:13):
scream NonStop about tolerance. But over in India over Christmas,
Christians were hunted. Did you know this? Homes were burned,
the churches were attacked, Families were driven into the streets.
And this didn't happen in one place, It happened as
across the country. A Christian family says a mob burned

(11:39):
their home and attacked local churches over something as basic
as burying their debt. You see, a man wanted to
bury his father. He was told he couldn't because of
his Christian faith. He when he tried anyway, a Hindu
extremist mob showed, rode up, destroyed the household belongings, burned

(12:03):
religious materials, and forced Christian families to flee. Because you
want to bury his father? Why I know, Hindus over there,
they end up burning the bodies. I saw that actually
when I was in the on the gan cheese they
had the funeral pyers up.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
It.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Never seen anything like it. Well, this guy being a Christian,
you probably want to bury his father in the ground.
I don't know. This was not a misunderstanding though. This
is religious persecution now. According to the Christian watchdog Open Doors,
nearly three thousand anti Christian attacks were recorded across India

(12:47):
in just the first eleven months of twenty twenty five.
Churches have been shut down, believers attacked, pastors imprisoned on
false converse conversion charges and false conversion charges, and Christian
families displaced simply because of their faith in Jesus the Christ.

(13:12):
See over in India, they don't have a lot of
you know, if in baptism and that kind of stuff.
When you convert from Islam or you convert from Hindu
Hinduism over there, you get baptized, splash down. It is
a public symbol. It's like wearing a wedding ring. It

(13:34):
now says you're loyal to Jesus the Christ, and that
then puts the mark on you, just like it put
the mark on Jesus. When Jesus was baptized by John
the Baptist. What happened? He went onto the desert for
forty what forty days? Forty nine? It was attempted by
the accuser. When they say tempted, I don't think that. President,

(13:54):
I'm sorry, I don't think that. Jesus was a you know,
it was like a oh man, I don't know, I
don't I may want to do this now he wanted.
The Satan was coming at him. But we're talking about
the Lord here boom. He promised the same is going
to happen to believers. Why wouldn't it It happened to him.
That's what's happening over in India. Openly, Christmas Day mobs

(14:18):
vandalized Christmas trees, decorations in site shopping malls. Children singing
Christmas carols were attacked. Can you imagine? Christian leaders say
that police response was often slow or nonexistent. The hostility

(14:40):
toward Christians in India across India is growing. And here's
the part that the media refuses to confront. These are
not isolated incidents. These are systemic. You know how the
left love to talk about systemic racism. This is the
systemic anti Christian Isn't India supposed to be a democracy,

(15:06):
one of the largest democracies in the world. Okay, if
Christmas trees were burned in America because of religion, you
know what, that might be happening as soon as the
Islamica population grows in this country. Don't get mad at me.
Don't get mad at me for saying it. It's true.
There are already some pastors in England. Can you imagine

(15:32):
your family being displaced for simply owning a Bible or
wanting to bury your father in a Christian way? Well,
if that happened in America, do you think our media
would cover it? They might Wait a minute, what happens?
Remember that time that one was a pastor of that

(15:52):
crazy church down in Florida burned the Koran and the
media went ballistic. Whenever Christians get persecuted around the world,
they're suffering, they're silent. And here's the truth. Christians are

(16:14):
among the most persecuted people on Earth today, and too
many in the West are choosing not to see it.
Really the media, and I can't blame too many people
in the West, because how did they know? The media
is not reporting it. President Trump did find out about
those Christians that were slaughtered in Nigeria and he actually

(16:35):
took action. He actually did something about it. And because
he did the mediar reaction, you would think, Okay, you
know what, not only were these Christians in Nigeria, but
they were black folks. They blacks, they were Africans. President

(16:59):
Trump came to the aid of African Christians. You would think, okay,
you know what, they gotta give them a little bit
of credit for that. Right, wrong, wrong, give them no
credit whatsoever. As a matter of fact, on MS NOW,
they tried to open up a can on Trump. I

(17:22):
say tried, because they ended up tripping their own selves up.
I'll have that for you coming up next. James T.
Harris sitting in for the Jesse Kelly Show.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
Feeling a little stocky, Follow like and subscribe on social
at Jesse Kelly Show.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
You were listening to the Jesse Kelly Show. My name
is James T. Harris. I am out of the Phoenix, Arizona.
My show could be heard on five fifty KFYI and
Phoenix seven ninety K and s T and Tucson or
the Free iHeartRadio app The Conservative Circus Monday through Friday
six to ten social media on James T. Harris dot com.

(18:00):
You know, Christians should not be surprised about persecution because
Jesus said, you know you follow me, this is what's
gonna happen. If they killed me, you should expect that
they're gonna come after you too. And throughout history, those
folks who believe have faith alone in Christ alone for
eternal life, they called it. Not just from non believers,

(18:23):
but even from believers. Some of the greatest persecutions of
Christians happened, you know, under the Catholic Church. I'm sorry,
just reading a couple of books on Martin Luther and Calvin.
These cats were brutal, not just the guys who broke
away brutal. I don't understand it when it comes from

(18:48):
from Christians. And really, do we see anybody come to
the Christians defense where you know what President Trump did? Boy,
you want to talk about breaking narratives. President Trump's supposed
to be a racist, right, He's a racist. Why would
a racist go over and help black folks Christians? President
Trump was actually talking about it. Wait a minute, wasn't

(19:10):
Nicki Minaj also talking about this? She caught hell for
talking about it. Is it fair to say that, you know,
most of the folks that are behind the media, they're
not really They're not really, They're not Christians, they're not believers.
He could tell by their programming. They don't feel any

(19:31):
shame whatsoever putting on stuff that is absolutely destructive, especially
the children. But here you have Nicki Minaj speaking out
bringing the light, shining a light on the killing of
Christians of Niger. Have remember when Michelle Obama held up
that sign, you know, say I bring back our girls,
some kind of mess like that. Oh, she was lauded.
All did they ever bring them back?

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Now?

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Most of those girls were slaughtered. President Trump, he went
a little bit further. He actually started bombing some of
the terrorists who did this, and weren't they ISIS members. Yeah.
So you would think man of all places, ms NBC,
especially with two Americans of African descent to black dudes

(20:18):
talking about it, President Trump would get some love, some understanding.
You would be wrong.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
My friends, Jason, I want to start with you, because
no one I feel like you're not known at the
bit to get started on the Nigeria of it all,
because you know, to Julia's point, there is no plan
for the after we had a Kayler Gardner, another MS
NOW reporter. She covers the White House on earlier and
she said that, you know, experts on this say, if

(20:45):
there is not a plan to what to do next,
it might be worse for Christians there.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
If there's not a plan, there is no plan. But
if there is not a plan, I mean, it could
be worse for Christians. How much worse could it be
for getting slaughtered? Dude? How much worse can it be?
And how about giving the president a little bit of credit?
He went in, Usually is the Democrats that are standing
around saying, do something, you gotta do something. What should

(21:13):
we do? I do know, do something. President Trump did
something and chances are it wasn't Willian nilly. But these
guys they're not even willing to give them the benefit
of the doubt.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Well, here's the thing, Eugene like, not just no plan,
but even the logic behind it is failing, right, I mean,
there are questions. BBC did a whole investigation as to
whether or not the numbers being spread by the Republicans
are even true. Hasn't been one hundred thousand people, hasn't
been six thousand people? Are they conflating different kinds of numbers?
And also remember that the terrorist organizations that are operating

(21:48):
in Nigeria, they don't care if you are a Christian
or a Muslim or any.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Other Okay, okay, okay, okay. They don't even know the
numbers Republic, because they is it right, is one hundred dollars?
Or you could do your own research and find out
so Christians are being slaughtered. Okay, well you know, it's
the difference between this five thousand, you know, and one

(22:14):
hundred thousand. Shut up, shut up. They don't even know that.
How do you know what the right information you just
hear questioning them? This is absurd on every level. Black
folks are getting slaughtered and you over there quibbling about
the number. Is it this number? Is it that number?
Caught myself, I almost said something crazy.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
They're attacking everybody. So this whole thing doesn't really make
any sense. Now, Look if the President of the United
States suddenly decided that he cared about the variou same
countries that he called s whole country fur years ago
the President United States.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Sir, sir, when President Trump called so countries, he was
talking about Haiti. Okay, quite possibly Somali Somalia for you
to just any black country or a stop it. But
even if he did me Nigeria, is he wrong? Would
he be wrong?

Speaker 3 (23:08):
The giant chess board with Nicki Minaj was like where
should the bar he brings to?

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Nicki Minaj? Look at this? The only two prominent can
I call Nicki Minaj republican? The only two prominent concerns
can I call President Trumper republican? The two political figures
talking about the slaughter of Nigerians Christian Nigerian's gets ridiculed
by this act. Nicki Minaj gonna throw her under the

(23:37):
bus too. It's incredible what we're watching. It truly is
Maybe all makes sense, but it doesn't. It doesn't.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
We know that this is just another opportunity for this
administration to engage in violence in a brown country.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Oh wow, another opportunity for this administration to engage in
violence in a brown country. No mention of the Christians, No, no,
they're all they're black. This is another president, President Trump

(24:14):
is engaging in a brown country. This is another opportunity.
Is name this? I don't want to miss his name.
I think I'm gonna call him Jason, but I'm not
sure I'll get back to that.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Hold on, We'll say this and this is probably I
think the most dangerous thing long term is for IS
Americans understanding of this issue. This is a joint operation,
and a lot of the ways this makes it look
like another aggressive strike. This is not the usual, this
is not venezuela.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Right.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
The government in Nigeria, A Buja actually said, hey, we're
actually working with the president on this. So if there's
one vaguely bright spot, it's the fact that this isn't
being done unilaterally, but we can't trust the motivations United Wow.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
If there's one bright spot, it's not done unilattery, you're
not going in by But we can't trust this administration
even though he's collaborating with the Nigerian government. So let
me get this right. Let me get this right. He's
going into Nigeria to to protect Christians. He's retaliating against
ISIS version you know that's operating in Nigeria. You want

(25:19):
to say that he's racist, You want to say that
he's only going into that country because it's brown people,
and yet he's collaborating, collaborating with Nigeria he's working with
the Nigerian government. This is just this is racism on
a whole another level. This is optuse, This is absurd,

(25:52):
and once again they can't even see it because of
their own lifestyles. They can't even see it because of
their own warped ideology. They're not willing to give the
President of the United States the benefit of the doubt
when he's intervening on behalf of a persecuted people. This

(26:16):
is the same crowd that will raise hell over the
treatment of Palestinians. But yet here you have a group
of people who are being slaughtered and they got no
sympathy whatsoever, no empathy whatsoever, no benefit of the doubts
they want to call talk about ulteriorts of motives. Okay,
maybe there are, maybe there are, But at the end

(26:40):
of the day, it's isis that's paying the price, sworn
enemies of the United States, people who slaughter, people who
cut their heads off, people who wouldn't be around if
it weren't for Barack who saying Obama, oh breeze. James
c Here is sitting in for Jessic Kelly the.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Jesse Kelly Show on air, at online at Jesse kellyshow
dot com.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
You are listening to the Jesse Kelly Show. My name
is James T. Harris. I am out of a Arizona, Phoenix, Arizona, Scottsfield,
actually home of the Slaves, the Sushi Slaves. If you
missed that it was earlier in the show, I could
be hurt on five fifty KFYI in Phoenix and seven
ninety k ST in Tucson. You can catch my show

(27:29):
to Conservative Circus on the free iHeartRadio app Monday through
Friday six through ten a m. My friends, and of
course all my social media can be found at James T.
Harris dot com. It is I regret that I did
not have an opportunity to really weigh in on more things. California. Well,

(27:51):
we've been we've been preoccupied with the fraud that is
going on in Minnesota. But anything that's happening in Minnesota
is going gone, you know in California probably times one hundred.
It is the goal. It is the goal. California is
leading away. New York's trying to find it, you know,
follow close behind a socialist mega state to trying to

(28:16):
take over the nation. But the calling car from the left,
the hypocrisy. It should trip them up. It should trip
them up more than it does. And I'm hoping that
people are starting to wake up to it. You know.
I think that for the longest time, you had Democrats
trying to replace the black community with the Hispanic community.

(28:41):
And then they open up the borders and they started
getting in, you know, actually the whole world. So now
they're moving away from the Hispanic community. But who are
they embracing, the Somalis, the Haitians. I don't know. But
it's all about identity politics. Identity politics, and the Democrats
usually speak from a more moral position. See, they can

(29:04):
moralize about this, they can pander in special ways. But
then you have a mayor Karen bass we call her
Mayor Karen Bassol on my show, she Bassole, right, the
woman who presided over the great uh California Los Angeles fires.
What does she in Africa when the when the city

(29:24):
caught on fire. I think she was in Africa, wasn't she.
She had to kind of semi rush home. I think
she's at her wedding and some type of event. She
came home and they were asking her questions and she
was like huddling on a paint, playing like a stowaway.
She gets home. They started any construction rebuilding in in

(29:45):
Los Angeles? No, have they ever started any rebuilding in
Maui after their fires? Huh? With all there is to
be concerned about Los Angeles, what does Karen mayor Karen
bassow What does she to say? Well, she had a
special message for Hispanic people, especially Hispanic people who work

(30:05):
at Border Patrol. Why would you do that? Why are
you against your peoples?

Speaker 4 (30:11):
Well, in a way, I think it's it's sad. I
think that those Border Patrol agents are going to have
a difficult time when they're out in the field and
they see what actually happens in real life.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Oh, suffarate from their training.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
But I do understand that their primary incentive is financial.
I think it just speaks to the financial situation that
millions of Americans find themselves in. And I definitely am
concerned about that report.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
What you're concerned about, William? What are you trying to
say Hispanic people, Mexican people who are in Border patrol,
they'll change your mind? When what what do you expect
for them to say? What do you say? What are
you saying that once Mexican people you know, they get
out there and they start doing the job of border

(30:59):
pat control. If they see other Mexicans, they'll will regret
what they did. But what are you talking about? But
what do you you know what three two one? That's
racist and it's so demeaning, it's so belittling. I have

(31:25):
many many friends in border patrol who are who are Mexican?

Speaker 2 (31:32):
What are you?

Speaker 1 (31:33):
What are you saying? You know if you are a
black person. Yeah, and you would probably have a very
hard time working in the Minnesota trying to clean up fraud.
Why because they black. You don't want to go against
your peoples. You can't do that. This is the mentality.

(31:54):
It is crazy. You know what's even crazier. Did you
know that there is Kawanza? Corey? Did you know that
it is Kawanza? We are in the Kawanza season. Yeah,
that's Corey as Jesse Kelly's producer. He said he didn't
he didn't know the dates, but he heard is around.

(32:15):
I think this is day three or four of Kawanza.
Do you don't celebrate Kawanza? Are you assuming that I
celebrate Kawanza? He said he would never assume that. He
would never assume that do people still wish happy Kawanza

(32:36):
the folks. I've never I'll be honest, I've been to
two Kawanza celebrations in my life. It's because not that
I wanted to go. One was outside of Coerce because
the girl was kind of cute. But it was very uncomfortable.
It was very uncomfortable because it's a made up holiday.
It's a made up holiday. But that did not stop

(32:59):
the Governor of California, Gavin USA for wishing and his
lovely wife wishing black folks Happy Kwanza to all of
those who celebrate Happy Kwansa.

Speaker 6 (33:08):
This holiday was created to honor the rich history of
the African American community and to invite all communities to
come together, reflect on our past, it struggles and triumphs,
and look ahead to our shared future.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
The Seven Principles of Kwansa offer guidance as to how
we can make the future bright, reminding us to keep
faith in ourselves and in each other.

Speaker 6 (33:28):
So as families across the country gathered to light the canara,
all a joyful Kwansa like.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
The what the seven Principles? I don't know faith in
each other? How about how faith in Jesus? See that's
what it is if I have faith in Jesus. But
doesn't that sort of conflict with Kawanza plus Kawansa, isn't there?
Like you eat a bunch of fruits and nuts, I'm
a carnivore. I couldn't. I would starve during Kawansa because

(33:57):
I can't. I don't eat fruits and nuts and vegetables.
The bounty of the land is a cow or maybe
a goat. Happy qualms everybody. Actually, I will be with

(34:18):
you next the second day of the new year. Do
you think all of this craziness will be gone by then? No,
it won't be, but I will be here to give
you clarity in the meantime, Happy New Year, Continue to
pray for the country, my friends. James T. Harris sitting

(34:39):
in for the Jesse Kelly Show.
Advertise With Us

Host

Jesse Kelly

Jesse Kelly

Popular Podcasts

Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

The Burden

The Burden

The Burden is a documentary series that takes listeners into the hidden places where justice is done (and undone). It dives deep into the lives of heroes and villains. And it focuses a spotlight on those who triumph even when the odds are against them. Season 5 - The Burden: Death & Deceit in Alliance On April Fools Day 1999, 26-year-old Yvonne Layne was found murdered in her Alliance, Ohio home. David Thorne, her ex-boyfriend and father of one of her children, was instantly a suspect. Another young man admitted to the murder, and David breathed a sigh of relief, until the confessed murderer fingered David; “He paid me to do it.” David was sentenced to life without parole. Two decades later, Pulitzer winner and podcast host, Maggie Freleng (Bone Valley Season 3: Graves County, Wrongful Conviction, Suave) launched a “live” investigation into David's conviction alongside Jason Baldwin (himself wrongfully convicted as a member of the West Memphis Three). Maggie had come to believe that the entire investigation of David was botched by the tiny local police department, or worse, covered up the real killer. Was Maggie correct? Was David’s claim of innocence credible? In Death and Deceit in Alliance, Maggie recounts the case that launched her career, and ultimately, “broke” her.” The results will shock the listener and reduce Maggie to tears and self-doubt. This is not your typical wrongful conviction story. In fact, it turns the genre on its head. It asks the question: What if our champions are foolish? Season 4 - The Burden: Get the Money and Run “Trying to murder my father, this was the thing that put me on the path.” That’s Joe Loya and that path was bank robbery. Bank, bank, bank, bank, bank. In season 4 of The Burden: Get the Money and Run, we hear from Joe who was once the most prolific bank robber in Southern California, and beyond. He used disguises, body doubles, proxies. He leaped over counters, grabbed the money and ran. Even as the FBI was closing in. It was a showdown between a daring bank robber, and a patient FBI agent. Joe was no ordinary bank robber. He was bright, articulate, charismatic, and driven by a dark rage that he summoned up at will. In seven episodes, Joe tells all: the what, the how… and the why. Including why he tried to murder his father. Season 3 - The Burden: Avenger Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina’s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice. Avenger is about one woman’s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country. Season 2 - The Burden: Empire on Blood Empire on Blood is set in the Bronx, NY, in the early 90s, when two young drug dealers ruled an intersection known as “The Corner on Blood.” The boss, Calvin Buari, lived large. He and a protege swore they would build an empire on blood. Then the relationship frayed and the protege accused Calvin of a double homicide which he claimed he didn’t do. But did he? Award-winning journalist Steve Fishman spent seven years to answer that question. This is the story of one man’s last chance to overturn his life sentence. He may prevail, but someone’s gotta pay. The Burden: Empire on Blood is the director’s cut of the true crime classic which reached #1 on the charts when it was first released half a dozen years ago. Season 1 - The Burden In the 1990s, Detective Louis N. Scarcella was legendary. In a city overrun by violent crime, he cracked the toughest cases and put away the worst criminals. “The Hulk” was his nickname. Then the story changed. Scarcella ran into a group of convicted murderers who all say they are innocent. They turned themselves into jailhouse-lawyers and in prison founded a lway firm. When they realized Scarcella helped put many of them away, they set their sights on taking him down. And with the help of a NY Times reporter they have a chance. For years, Scarcella insisted he did nothing wrong. But that’s all he’d say. Until we tracked Scarcella to a sauna in a Russian bathhouse, where he started to talk..and talk and talk. “The guilty have gone free,” he whispered. And then agreed to take us into the belly of the beast. Welcome to The Burden.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2026 iHeartMedia, Inc.