July 24, 2025 • 43 mins
With news Russia withheld damaging information in 2016 about Hillary Clinton’s health, we tell the story behind the infamous #HillarysHealth hashtag...and how Mike Cernovich became enemy #1 of the Fake News media for covering it. Note: Some adult language.
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sixteen about Hillary Clinton's health. We thought we'd tell the
story behind the infamous Hillary's health hashtag and how Mike
Cernovich became enemy number one with the fake news media.
This episode was originally broadcast on November fifteenth, twenty eighteen.
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Freedom of the press is sacred in America. That's why
it's enshrined in our First Amendment. Americans understand this, yet
the people in the press are embroiled in an unprecedented conflict.
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Media outlets like CNN and MSNBC are fake news.
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The people want the truth, the media claims to be
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press is concerned about the tone of the conflict, and
more specifically, they fear for the safety of the press. Hey, Chris,
I mean, at what point does this become dangerous?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I'm talking about dangerous as in a journalist gets heart.
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But is this true? Is the mainstream media really concerned
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Freedom of the press. It's one of our founding principles.
Yet the conflict between the people and the press has
reached epic proportions. The conflict is not a new development.
The battle between the people and the press has been
brewing for at least a generation. Middle America has largely
been powerless to the far left mainstream media. But something
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new is happening. The people. They aren't taking it anymore,
and they have some tools at their disposal. The information
war has reached such epic proportions that the mainstream media
claims to be concerned about the safety of the press.
But is that true? Are they really worried about the
safety of journalists. To find the answer, we follow the
rise of one of today's most controversial journalists, a man
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who helps us get to the bottom of the conflict
between the people and the press.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Fake news articles, outrageous and solatious.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
Toxic, paranoid, baseless allegation ranging on the credulous, potentially.
Speaker 7 (03:18):
Reaching millions of people writing conspiracy theories.
Speaker 8 (03:21):
And fomen's hatred of media.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
This is insane as a fake news story has turned
into something very real.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Oh well, when they say fake news, that includes any
reporting that contradicts their life, this narrative.
Speaker 9 (03:33):
You are fake news.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Relentless left wing bible blatant.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
Why it is an agenda? What you've just seen are
two different definitions of fake news, But both of them
can't be true. What is real news and what is
fake news? That's what you're going to learn in host
the Media's War on Truth.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
That last guy is Mike Cernovich, describing his film Hoaxed,
an extraordinary documentary on the phenomenon of fake news. This
messy film features some of the biggest names in alternative media,
including Sky Adams, Alex Jones, Stefan Molyniel, Jordan Peterson, and
Mike Cnovitch himself. Few in journalism have gone through the
meteoric rise that Mike Cnovitch has experienced. The man seemed
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to appear from out of nowhere to become one of
the most followed and most reviled figures in media, and
he seems to love every minute of it. I first
spoke with Mike in September twenty sixteen, when he was
still largely an undiscussed figure in legacy media. I was
struck by how different his demeanor was compared to his
Twitter persona. One on one, the guy was obviously smart, funny,
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and chrismatic, but on Twitter he more resembled rowdy Roddy Piper.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
Where Majia, Why won't the media cover Heart? Why is
the media being a stage sure Hillary in television? Winkie
Weeks in action? So the media is only covering the
pro Hillary side? Right here, cameras everywhere?
Speaker 10 (04:51):
Where?
Speaker 6 (04:51):
Are the cameras on the proprity people.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
He was a villain that relished in the role. Like
most overnight success stories, Mike's has been a long time coming.
Originally a self help author, he'd eventually had journalist to
his talent stack and has unquestionably broken some major stories
and arguably forced one of the most jaw dropping moments
of the twenty sixteen election.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
So I never went to journalism school and thought I
want to one day be Woodward and Bernstein or anything
like that. I just didn't like I don't like being
lied to, and I thought, well, let's tell the truth
about what is actually going on here.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
But Mike found his way into journalism in a roundabout way.
Raised in a small town in Illinois around nothing but
cornfields and soybean farms, Mike Cernovich grew up a poor,
chubby kid who got picked on a lot until he
had a life changing moment. He describes the time in
his self help book Gorilla Mindset.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
One day a bully beat me up badly. It was humiliating.
My sister had to pull the attacker off of me.
I felt the moralized and powerless. There was a mattress
in our garage, and I went there and laid down
on it, and I cried myself asleep. My dad came
home from work. He opened the garage door, looked down
at me with part pity and park contempt, and he
asked me one question that changed my life. When are
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you going to get serious? Those words, coupled with the
expression on his face, were a wake up call for me.
I made the decision there I would get serious, very serious.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
He began training hard in martial arts, eventually claiming to
have beaten up all but one of his past bullies.
He'd later channel that energy into a different direction. He'd
ultimately move out to southern California to attend law school
and later start a law blog. That was his first
step into journalism.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
I got involved in legal journalism probably ten or fifteen
years ago. I had a law blog that I kept
as a hobby. And one thing that I would notice
is that in judicial opinions discussing prosecutorium's conduct, the judges
would never identify the prosecutor by name. I would look
into court records and court filings to find obscure information
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about people who engaged in un ethical legal conduct.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
At the time, he didn't even realize that what he
was doing was just journalism, basically being curious about something
and digging in to find the answer. He moved away
from the law blog and started a nonline magazine for
what he described as alpha males, and would develop a
self help business around an idea he calls Gorilla Mindset,
publishing books and producing self help seminars around the concept.
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But he'd get drawn back to journalism when he got
a tip from some of his blog readers.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
I think the first time I ever really did journalism
was when I had a bunch of readers in Budapest, Hungary,
and at the time I was going to go to
Budapest just to go to the opera house or something,
and they told me, hey, you know, the media is
really lying about the migration issue is happening. And I thought, okay,
I'll go figure that out.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
At the time, in twenty fifteen, there was a major
immigration crisis hitting Europe like a ton of.
Speaker 11 (07:51):
Bricks, hundreds of angry migrants something demonstrating outside Budapest's Kleesei
International railway station.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
And I went to the Colleti train station in Hungary
and Budapest, and I noticed, yeah, that the media had
not been telling the truth.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
The media in the area was branding the European migrants
as refugees. However, what Mike saw was something different.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
But the issue is what's the difference between a refugee
and a migrant And that's not something that the media
is prepared to discuss it that they thought about now.
The difference is that a migrant is leaving this country
for a better economic opportunity, and that's not something I
want to knock. But that's different than a pure refugee.
Here's what I noticed at the Colleti transtation. There were
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signs I kid you not that were literally saying do
not stop in Denmark because under the Refugee Migration Act,
whichever country you get fingerprinted first is the country you
have to stay in. And I thought, well, Denmark's a
pretty nice country, but Denmark doesn't have as generous of
benefits as Germany and Austria.
Speaker 11 (08:55):
Most people demonstrating outside the station have valid tickets and
demanded to be alive travel onto Germany.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
I realized, okay, there's more to the story than as
being reported, and that was the beginning.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Like so many others, including yours, truly, Mike had unintentionally
stepped into a life of journalism.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
Even though I didn't note at the time. I was
doing journalism but not really realizing it. But I would
only do it as a one off. I wasn't trying
to get Scoops right.
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Mike saw that the media wasn't telling the truth about
the European migrant crisis, but he was ready to step
away from journalism again. That's until something happened. The campaign
of the century was taking shape.
Speaker 12 (11:00):
Ladies and gentlemen, I am a of facially.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Running for president of the United States, and we are
going to make our country great again.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
In twenty fifteen, I had strongly held political beliefs, which
was that I hated both parties equally. I had what
would be called a negative moment with politics during the
bailouts of Wall Street. The idea of being politically involved,
there being on the side was something I held and contempt.
I was anti politics, anti both political parties. And of
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course that was pre Trump, because as we know, Trump
arrived and he changed everything.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
You've called women you don't like, fat pigs, dogs, slavs
and disgusting animals.
Speaker 12 (11:51):
Your Twitter account only ROSI O'donald, No, it wasn't.
Speaker 13 (11:57):
They said there were weapons of mass destruction.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
There were none, and they knew there were none.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
They're and tired. That's a matter of principle.
Speaker 10 (12:07):
The biggest liar.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
You probably are worse than Jet Bush.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
And you know I said to somebody that is really
the messenger.
Speaker 9 (12:13):
The messenger is important.
Speaker 12 (12:15):
I could have one man saying we're going to text
you twenty five, and I can say another, listen to
your motherfuckers.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
Trump just showed up, and I thought, this guy's fun.
I want to see him smash things. I want to
see him call everybody out. I want to watch the show.
I didn't even know what Trump's political issues were. I
just knew that this is fun.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
What he was struck by in the early part of
the twenty sixteen election, was it. The media thought Trump's
ceiling was just three percent.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
At the time. I said, you people are crazy, like
the Trump is everywhere, and he's got he's got a
very strong shot. And in fact, the GOP they can't
win the general election. The only person person in the
GOP running who could win the election as Trump. And
then of course everybody told me I was dumb, didn't
know what I was talking about, stick to lifting weights.
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And I thought, okay, now now you guys have started
argument with me, so I'm gonna get into this.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Like so many citizen journalists, what caught his eye during
the election cycle was the difference between what he was
witnessing firsthand and what the mainstream media was telling the public.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
And I noticed something that I wasn't seeing in the news,
which was if you go to a Trump rally, good time,
everybody's nice. Occasionally, you know, maybe a punch gets thrown
that shouldn't and I don't have any tolerance for that
kind of stuff. But if you compare a Trump rally
to a rock concert or even to a left wing event,
you'll find out that they're peaceful. But you go outside
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of the Trump rally and there's like carnage. People are
throwing bottles by people, I mean in TIFA far left
in protests, throwing glass bottles at the police, chanting f
the police, attacking Trump supporters. I saw a guy get
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his nose broken, and if you turned on the news,
they would say, can you believe how bad these Trump
rallies are? And I said, wait a minute, the Trump
rallies are actually quite nice, but outside is the carnage.
So then I started streaming what was happening outside of
the Trump rallies and kept doing that and I went
from there.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Mike's Twitter following was on their rise. He started using
a live video sharing app called Periscope that connects to
Twitter and was providing his followers a perspective that they
weren't getting anywhere else. As the Democratic National Convention was
opening in Philadelphia, a major scandal broke out.
Speaker 14 (14:45):
The latest emails released by Wikileak suggests the top officials
at the Democratic National Committee planned to undermine Bernie Sanders
presidential campaign.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Protests erupted outside the DNC convention. Sanders' supporters were pissed.
The mainstream media largely ignored the protests. Mike Cernovich did not.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
You can think which you want. There's a lot of
people here, so I'm gonna give you a tour of
this park that we're at by the convention center, just
so you can get a sense of how many fucking
people are here, Hilarie.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
He described what he was doing as journalism about journalism.
He wanted to show where the press was and where
they were not, what they were doing, and what they
weren't doing. As the twenty sixteen campaign raged on, Mike
was naturally finding ways to expose the mainstream media's bias,
he decided to hone in on a taboo subject, Hillary's health.
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Hillary Clinton had serious health incidents throughout the years, going
back to nineteen ninety eight, when she got a serious
blood clot on her knee. In two thousand and five,
she fainted during a luncheon speech. Then in early two
thousand and eight, during a TV interview in the heat
of her first presidential run, a problem reared at Dougley head.
Speaker 15 (15:57):
How will you use your husband, Bill Clinton in the administration?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
You know this?
Speaker 15 (16:08):
I was reading in the paper yesterday, and this was
what happens in these long campaign as you get to
the yes, well, you know what I want to hold
you on here any longer, because you probably could use
some Senator thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
At first it looked like an isolated incident, but then
it happened again a few days later.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
I talked way too much.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
She'd eventually dropped out of the race, paving the way
for Obama's election. He later appointed her as Secretary of
State in two thousand and nine, then, shortly after taking
the position.
Speaker 8 (16:42):
Renounced last night Senator Clinton. Secretary Clinton was preparing to
depart the State Department for a meeting at the White
House and fell in the basement as she was walking
towards her car, and she suffered a fracture of her
right elbow.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
The health concerns just continued to pop up, with another
coughing fit in twenty twelve. Many Americans think we select
our presidential front runners. That's rarely the case. The parties
pick and mold their front runners years in advance, which
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is why a few days after Obama won reelection, Hillary
started her branding campaign for a twenty sixteen presidential run
to be his successor, and her health came into question.
Speaker 13 (17:27):
You know you will be sixty nine and twenty sixteen
if you ran, If you want two terms. You would
be seventy seven.
Speaker 8 (17:33):
Is your age a concern to you?
Speaker 15 (17:36):
It really isn't.
Speaker 12 (17:37):
I am, thankfully knock on wood, not only healthy, but
have incredible stamina on energy.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
But just one day after her Barbara Walters interview aired,
Hillary was rushed to a doctor and diagnosed with a
concussion after feigning again. The episode couldn't be kept under wraps.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
We have more about some big news that broke this weekend,
the State Department saying that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
fainted from dehydrat after an illness and got a concussion.
She has canceled one trip, and ABC Senior Foreign Affairs
correspondent Martha radditts now has the latest on her condition.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
She had to be admitted into the hospital for a
blood clot that formed in the space between her brain
and her skull behind her right ear. The head injury
was so serious she was forced to wear special glasses
for double vision. The optics of the incident so soon
after telling the world she was healthy provided a clear
problem for a twenty sixteen run. So she did something unprecedented.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
This is very improbable.
Speaker 13 (18:35):
This is not an interview I ever expected to be doing.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Just A few weeks after being released from the hospital,
Hillary appeared with President Obama in a joint interview with
sixty minutes and what was the message delivered to the public.
Speaker 13 (18:47):
Why were you so insistent about wanting her to be
Secretary of State?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Well, I was a big admirer of Hillary's before our
primary battles and the general election. Her discipline, her stamina.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Her stamina. The political class seemed to know something the
public did not. She'd eventually ditched the double vision glasses,
but her violent coughing fits continued. So when the twenty
sixteen presidential campaign was fully underway, it shouldn't have been
a surprise that Hillary's health was going to be an issue.
Matt Dredge was the first to bring it up in
a big way.
Speaker 10 (19:21):
She's old and she's sick. She's not a contender. They're
making her a contender with these propped up Saturday Night
Live things. It's like a head on a stick. She
is not a viable, vibrant leader for this country of
three hundred including the illegals, three hundred and eighty million.
Anybody who was seventy years old whose hypothyroid You do
not elect the president. Ladies, and gentlemen, you don't do it.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Then just a few weeks later, Trump picked up the
baton and, in pure Trumpian fashion, drove the message home.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
By the way, Hillary Clinton does not have the strength
or the stamina. She doesn't have the strength.
Speaker 13 (20:00):
Or the stamina to be present. She doesn't she has
got and I mean this, no strength, no stamina.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
She cannot lead us.
Speaker 13 (20:10):
She doesn't have the strength or the stamina to be presidents.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
Say that.
Speaker 10 (20:15):
Take a look.
Speaker 13 (20:15):
She goes to an event, the press is told what
to say, where to go, They put them in a pen,
they hold them. She does a little event and then
she goes away for four or five days. She doesn't
have the strength of the stamina. I mean, you know,
she's got a name and people will stupidly vote for her.
She doesn't have the strength or the stamina. I'm not
like Hillary Clinton. She's got no strength, She's got no stamina.
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She doesn't have the strength or the stamina.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
To be president. Nobody even knows what happened to hers,
Like she went on with w why do you keep
going on this?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Trump was pounding away at the message and at a
time when the exhaustion of the campaign was clearly beginning
to wear on Hillary. By the beginning of twenty sixteen,
the uncontrollable coughing fits were back. Was it about this
time in April twenty sixteen that Mike Cernovich starts to
publicly identify this issue. In a series of tweets, he
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brought attention to her health. Quote. Hillary simply does not
have the energy, or health or stamina to fight Trump
one on one, he tweeted. If you can't see this,
you're truly blinded by hate. He added, No one in
the mainstream media was critically reporting about her obvious health problems,
so Mike began blogging about it. As Hillary's coughing fits continued,
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the media was forced to cover it, and the only
way they knew how claiming the attacks and her health
were sexist.
Speaker 10 (21:31):
And there's this veiled sexism that they've been accused of.
Speaker 15 (21:34):
Somebody doesn't have the strength and stamina, somebody who should
not be president.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
But even with the media playing defense, the health concerns
swirling in social media were leaving a mark. So Hillary
introduced a new campaign slogan that appeared directly designed to
counter the brewing controversy.
Speaker 13 (21:51):
If you could sum up what is the big idea
of your cannabis.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Look, we are stronger together.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
We are stronger together in facing our internal challenges and
our external ones.
Speaker 13 (22:00):
We are stronger together if we work to improve the economy.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
It was no coincidence that the word stronger was in
her slogan. Her campaign might as well have said Hillary
was sick. The message started to become clear to the
twitter verse.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
Sick Hillary. What happened there was Scott Adams had just
written that he thought that Hillary looked unhealthy, and I
looked at Hillary and I thought Hillary's unhealthy. And my brain,
just due to being a lawyer, is always looking for
logical inconsistency.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
And Mike noticed that Hillary was canceling events and hiding
from the media. By contrast, Trump was everywhere.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
There was even a time she went two hundred and
fifty five days, I believe, without doing the press conference.
And thus I started with a friend that started a
countdown clock saying when was Hillary's last press conference.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Conservative media was, however, fixated on Hillary's shady finances, but
it was falling flat. The Clinton's financial corruption was already
baked in the cake. People think all politicians are corrupt,
but bad health that's a fatal flaw. Mike's instincts gravitated
to an area that the media was saying was completely
off limits. By early August, Mike began publicly advocating that
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Hillary's health was this single issue of the election. By contrast,
the media was not only ignoring her health, they were
actively trying to marginalize anyone talking about it. Mike attacked
the issue nearly full time.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
Nobody wants a week president in the United States. Nobody
wants the sick president in the United States. Nobody wants
a so called me and surian candidate or a weekend
at Hillary's type person. So that's why we hit the
health thing heart.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Mike got the hashtag Hillary's health trending and posted article
after article on the subject, sometimes making wild speculations. If
the media wasn't going to cover the unknowns about her health,
Mike would fill the void in a way that got attention.
He wondered about what looked like a lesion on her tongue.
He questioned whether a specific member of her Secret Service
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detail was possibly her medical handling. He published articles quoting
medical professionals about her potential ailments.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
Where she's having pre reflexes and falling, and that's led
one physician who believes she has Parkinson's.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
He led with headlines like Hillary's health cannot be ignored, and.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
We kept pushing it. We kept pushing it, We kept
pushing the narrative. For example, she had a stool with
every event that she would kind of lean on, so
we would say, well, why does she have a stool?
And the next thing you know, the stool's gone. And
it was unrelenting. Because she was not healthy.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
People started combing the internet for any signs of Hillary's frailty.
They found images of her needing help upstairs at a
campaign stop. The Judge Report ran with the images. Of course,
the far left CNN entered claiming that questions about her
health were the stuff of conspiracy theories. Brian Stelter led
the charge and.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
The planting campaign.
Speaker 8 (24:50):
Whether you agree with them or not, they are right
tonight to be saying these are just conspiracy theories. They've
been debunked time and time again.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
But no matter what the media did to try to
make the issue off limits, a concern over her health
kept growing. She was forced to respond.
Speaker 10 (25:04):
The new one is that you are unhealthy, that you
you had a concussion.
Speaker 13 (25:09):
Are you in good health?
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Here?
Speaker 7 (25:11):
You take my take my pulse while I'm talking to you,
so make sure I'm alive.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Oh my god.
Speaker 13 (25:17):
There's nothing there, nothing there.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Can you open this jar of pickles? This has not
been tampered.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
She may have been able to open the jar, but
she was still an immedia pickle because you see, Mike
wasn't operating purely on a hunch. He claimed to receive
some inside information.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Now, as you know, Secret Service does not leak. That
is the one law enforcement agency where they're just not
going to tell you anything. However, Hillary Clinton had mistreated
Secret Service for years and years and years. I'm not
going to say my source was Secret Service, but I
was informed to monitor Hillary and to have someone constantly
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follow her around because there kind of would be an incident.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
The issue became so toxic for Hillary that any cancelation
on her schedule would have surely caused an internet firestorm.
At the time, Trump was everywhere tirelessly campaigning the Hillary's
health meme contrasting the two candidates created pressure for Hillary
to go out when she probably shouldn't have, and in
early September twenty sixteen, the demands of the campaign started
to catch up with her, and.
Speaker 12 (26:25):
I want to thank Congresswoman Marcia Fudge for hosting us.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
I've been talking.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
So she started making serious mistakes.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Being grossly generalistic.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
You could put half of Trump's supporters into what I
call the basket of deplorables.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Right.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
The racist, sexis homophobic, xenophobic, islamophobic, you name it.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
The pace because of the questions people are asking got
too much for her, and then that led to the
event on nine to eleven.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
This is an NBC News special report. Here's Lester Holds
a Good Day from New York.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Some concerns raised this morning about the well being of
Hillary Clinton, Democratic candidate for president, after she left the
nine to eleven memorial service at Ground Zero earlier than expected.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Strangely, the media claim they didn't follow Clinton as she
left the event, So the details of the incident were
at first sketchy, but then the real story began to leak.
Speaker 14 (27:33):
That I wanted to bring our viewers up to date
on a story that is breaking right now that I
just learned about within the last fifteen or twenty minutes.
As you know, there are many dignitaries gathered at the scene,
including Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, who was at ground zero,
was there for the ceremony and left unexpectedly left early
because of what appeared to be a medical episode. I
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have a law enforcement source who was there, who was
fifteen feet away from Hillary Clinton. He says she was
standing on a curb with a protective detail waiting for
her motorcade. My sore says she stumbled off the curb,
appeared to faint, lost one of her shoes that wound
up underneath the van. Her protective detail, I'm told, helped
her into that van, and then the van took off,
presumably in the direction of a hospital. They grabbed her shoe.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
And Hillary apparently fainted for the third time that we
know of, and luckily and a stute bystander captured it
all on video.
Speaker 13 (28:25):
Let's watch this video for a second, her apparently almost
falling but captured, caught by people, presumably Secret Service agents
around her.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
The media tried to claim Hillary just stumbled, but the
video clearly showed that she collapsed. It was a stunning moment.
The news spread like wildfire.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
My phone was bringing because I'm a night I was
up to probably four in the morning that night, so
I was sleeping. I was happy, dreaming away about something.
I'm sure, and then Shanna shakesma. She says, Michael, everybody's
calling you. Something must have happened. But then, of course
I signed online and saw the now famous tape of
Hillary collapsing.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
After watching the video, he jumped online to gloat with
his followers.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
I told you, I'm declining to pull it, sir, because
I will not accept awards from the hoax media.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
The fake news media, who just days ago were saying
concerns over Hillary's health were pure conspiracy theories, now had
to acknowledge your health was indeed an issue That day.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
Was a major vindication of me. It is a great
media lie, and it's an insult to conspiracy theorists across
the world, the claim that I spread a conspiracy theory
about her health, when no, the conspiracy theory was that
she was actually healthy.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
This was the event that made Mike Cernovich the enemy
of the mainstream media, and why because he made the
media look ridiculous. Media coverage on Mike started to trickle
in The New Yorker featured him in an article entitled
Trolls for Trump. In October twenty sixteen, The story largely
positioned him as an influential supporter of Trump's candidacy. The
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rest of the media probably would have left him alone
after that. The press tends to ignore effective journalists on
the right. But then the unthinkable happened.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Right now, a historic moment.
Speaker 10 (30:10):
We can now project the winner of the.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Presidential racia that projects Donald Trump wins the presidency.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
The business Tayko on the TV.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Like so many other Trump supporters, Mike Cernovich was added
to the media's hit list.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
I want to say, I'm like a zoo animal they
were studying. They would all they all know who I was,
but they wouldn't talk about me. That's another point I
guess about the New Yorker article. That was a big
awakening moment for me. Is all these people who, oh,
never heard of this guy, Nobody knows who he is.
When that article came, everybody goes, yeah, I told you
Cernovich is a loser. He's an insecure, wannabe alpha male. Whatever. Wow,
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all you people who ignored me are sharing this article.
You clearly know a lot about me. So that's when
I realized that they were all pretending to not know
who I was, and they were.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Lying their close surveillance of Mike would soon play out.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
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Speaker 1 (31:15):
Welcome back to Red Pilled America. So in twenty sixteen,
Mike Cernovich played a key role in exposing Hillary Clinton's
health problems. Throughout most of the campaign, the media pretended
as if Mike didn't exist. But once Donald Trump won
the presidency, he quickly became a target of the media.
The first major media hit piece against him arrived in
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the form of a sixty minute story about the purveyors
of fake news.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
In this last election, the nation was assaulted by impostors
masquerading as reporters.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
The media, unwilling to admit that Trump legitimately won the presidency,
began a conspiracy theory that fake news led to his victory,
and the show placed Mike right at the center of
it all. Sixty Minutes even suggested that Mike was connected
to an outrageous crime.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
This December, Edgar Welch opened fire in a Washington, DC pizzeria.
He told police he was there to rescue children forced
into prostitution by Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
A few weeks before election Day twenty sixteen, Wiki Week's
published some emails of John Podesta, a top advisor to
Hillary Clinton. Online chatrooms began to discuss what they thought
was a strange code language used in the emails. Some
speculated that the use of the word pizza was code
for pedophilia. Followers of the internet phenomenon called it pizzagate.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
The idea that I was some kind of huge Pizzagate spriuder,
when what in fact happened is I posted to a
hashtag unrelated stories just about pedophilia.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Mike had often been criticizing the media for normalizing pedophilia.
The New York Times, Salon dot com, and others published
articles arguing that pedophiles were not monsters. It was a disorder,
not a crime, they argued. So Mike used the trending
pizzagate hashtag in the story to criticize the media on
its gross normalization of pedophilia. At times, he was imprecise
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with his words, and admittedly he enjoyed a good conspiracy theory,
all of which left him vulnerable. A man would end
up entering a DC pizzeria, thought by some Pizzagate believers
to be the center of a child pedophile ring, and
shot at the only locked door in the restaurant, thinking
he was saving trapped kids, but there were no trap kids. Luckily,
no one was hurt. The man was arrested and sentenced
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to several years in prison, but it was the perfect
opportunity for the media to try and take down Mike.
Sixty Minutes opened up their segment with the shooting and
suggested that Mike was somehow connected to the crime and
perhaps was even responsible for it.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
The police say there is no sex trafficking conspiracy, but
millions read about it on dozens of websites, including one
called Danger and Play, which wrote Clinton's inner circle includes
child traffickers, pedophiles, and now members of a sex call.
Danger in Play is written by Michael Cernovich, a Southern
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California lawyer who describes himself as right of center politically,
but who has become a magnet for readers with a
taste for stories with no basis in fact. These news
stories are fakes.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
They're definitely not fake.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
They're laws not that at all. One hundred percentro.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Stunningly, though, when Mike published the entire interview transcript, sixty
minutes said something entirely different. During the interview, Scott Pleay,
the host of the show, admitted that the show's researchers
verified that Mike never claimed the pizzeria was involved in
a child pedophile, erring that admission never made the show.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
And then I went on sixty minutes, and that was
when I was on everybody's radar because everybody was hyped
when they found out that I was going to be on,
because they thought that he's going to be crushed. Everybody said,
I can't wait to watch Cernovich go into sixty minutes.
He's going to be destroyed, and the hashtag for sixty
minutes trended, trended, trended. Everybody was tweeting at me, you're
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a loser, can't wait to watch you get destroyed. I
go on.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
In August, he published this headline, Hillary Clinton has Parkinson's disease.
Physician confirms you don't think that's misleading. No, you believe
it's true today.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Oh absolutely, she had a seizure and froze up walking
into her mortorcade.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
Well, she had pneumonia, I'd be how do you know
who told you that?
Speaker 6 (35:37):
Well, the campaign told us that, why would you trust
a campaign? Afterwards, media silence, nothing, and I go, I
know I did well then, because they would be letting
me know if I hadn't. And then that's when the
media pieces started to show up, and of course they
took a very dishonest tone, which was, oh, he's a troll,
and they tried to again dehumanize me, to make me
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seem like I'm not a human being.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Even after being branded as the leader of fake news,
Mike kept breaking real stories, major stories, including the story
proving Trump was right about the Obama administration spying on him.
Mike also started to change his approach, becoming less trolley,
more publicly empathetic, a bit more kumbaya. He began an
effort to shame journalists into covering violence against Trump supporters
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by calling out the entire press corps at a White
House briefing.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
What about violence against Trump supporters? Of Barkley, the violence
against Trump supporters is that being covered?
Speaker 11 (36:31):
Why is that?
Speaker 6 (36:33):
Why will nobody here cover the violence against Trump supporters.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
It was around this time that a left wing video
creator started to elevate his harassment on Mike on Twitter.
The guy worked for CNN's parent company, Turner Broadcasting.
Speaker 6 (36:46):
There was a guy and I'm not gonna name him
because I don't want to give people more attention who
started trolling me on Twitter with tweets that I don't
even think i'd written right, And I thought, oh, okay, this
guy's a little creepy. And then he started telling his
followers to like dog pile of me or whatever the term.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
And I just.
Speaker 6 (37:03):
Started getting all kinds of harassment, creepy messages from his followers.
They would invade me like fifty or a hundred times
anytime I did a video. So I blocked the guy
and then he tells his followers Cernovich blocked me message Cernovich,
which by the way, is inciting harassment. And I got
the usual hey weird, Mike, hey this, and that.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
The harassment could have stopped there, but this Twitter gang
took it a step further. They began sending Mike some
pretty disturbing messages, including a photoshopped image of semen on
top of a picture of Mike and his daughter, with
just the slang word for semen in the message.
Speaker 6 (37:39):
And that set me off.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Mike said he checked to see if the person who
sent the message interacted with and followed the Turner broadcasting
guy he blocked, and sure enough they did.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
And I just went ham I think as any father would,
and did some very very heated periscopes and then I thought, Okay,
this person's gonna just go away, move on.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
But he didn't.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
Just unrelenting, I would do an event threats, so Veny
would say, we're geting threats.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
The threats led to the cancelation of Mike's event, and
the stalker, as Mike now refers to him, emailed Mike
to ridicule him about the cancelation. Mister stalker kept escalating
the harassment.
Speaker 6 (38:15):
There's a video now the person has made of my
wife and there's a baby being beaten up in the background.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Mister stalker used one of Mike's videos and added audio
of a baby crying and slapping sounds to suggest Mike
and his wife were abusing their child. The video was
a grotesque fake, and.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
The person made a video tagging in child protective service
organizations saying someone needs to rescue this baby. That's like
a different.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Level the obsession. Mister stalker and his followers have with
Mike is alarming. Mister Stalker has threatened to call the
police to rescue Mike's daughter, a threat that can be
interpreted as swatting a dangerous act or prankster's attempt to
get law enforcement to send a large number of armed
police to a particular address. It's dangerous because someone could
get mistakenly killed. Mister Stalker's threatened to crash a wedding
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that Mike was attending with his daughter that led to
a police report filed by the groom. The tweeter gang
has edited audio of his daughter to make it sound
like she's saying things about pedophiles. Mister Stocker has even
tweeted out Mike's phone number, and others from this Twitter
gang have tweeted out his address and made death threats
to him and his wife.
Speaker 6 (39:27):
Real sick stuff, We're talking, you know, real beyond the pale.
And this has been going on for about two years.
Of course, I report the tweete nothing happens.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
But besides the moral concerns, Mike is troubled by their fixation.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
For another reason, we notice that these people who commit
these crimes the Capitol because that shooter, for example, anything.
Speaker 9 (39:46):
I'm Jeff Lauren. This is our Western addition. We are
going to begin with a mass shooting in Maryland at
a newspaper office in Annapolis. A gunman with a shotgun
opened fire this afternoon at the Capital Gazette. Five were killed,
several others.
Speaker 5 (40:01):
Hurts raymost reportedly had sued the paper for defamation and lost.
Threats against the paper were made on social media as
recently as today.
Speaker 6 (40:10):
He started off on Twitter, making threats on Twitter and
stalking journalists on Twitter. So the people who stock you
there is a real safety risk if it's multi year fixation.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Along the way, Mike attempted to inform the mainstream media
of a situation in hopes that they deescalate the harassment.
Mister Stalker was a left wing political commentator. Maybe some
peer pressure would have brought the harassment to an end.
Mike even attempted to inform Turner Broadcasting employees and see
ann journalists at the time Brian Stelter, Oliver Darcy, and
Jake Tapper, all reporters that claim to be concerned about
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the safety of journalists. Mike says none of them responded.
The division of Turner Broadcasting that mister Stalker worked with
closed in October twenty eighteen, but a month after its closure,
mister Stalker threatened to send police to Mike's house for
a fabricated allegation. Mike eventually filed an affidavid with law
enforcement in hopes of ending the continued rets. Police eventually
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contacted mister Stalker, prompting him to delete tweets about Mike's family,
which leads us back to the question, is the mainstream
media really concerned about the safety of journalists. The answer
apparently depends on who you are.
Speaker 6 (41:25):
One of the awakening moments for my wife was when
I was on the phone with the Hovington Post and
they were planning this big hit piece on me. The
blogger there said, oh, yeah, everybody in DC knows, but like,
nobody's gonna write that story.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
If the media really cared about the safety of journalists,
they would have come to Mike's defense, regardless of their
feelings about his brand of tough journalism, because we all
know the media doesn't mind an aggressive reporter as long
as he's going after their enemy.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
The White House intern trying to grab the microphone out
of Acosta's hand.
Speaker 8 (41:57):
White House Press Sarah Hokopy Sanders, implying a Costa got
physical with the intern.
Speaker 7 (42:01):
The administration won't tolerate a porter placing his hands on
a young woman just trying to do her job.
Speaker 8 (42:06):
Several journalists and organizations are demanding a Cassus press pass
be reinstated.
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Cernovich became enemy number one with the fake news media.
This episode was originally broadcast on November fifteenth, twenty eighteen.
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Freedom of the press is sacred in America. That's why
it's enshrined in our First Amendment. Americans understand this, yet
the people in the press are embroiled in an unprecedented conflict.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Media outlets like CNN and MSNBC are fake news.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
The people want the truth, the media claims to be
giving it to them, and there's a standoff. Now, the
press is concerned about the tone of the conflict, and
more specifically, they fear for the safety of the press. Hey, Chris,
I mean, at what point does this become dangerous?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I'm talking about dangerous as in a journalist gets heart.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
But is this true? Is the mainstream media really concerned
about the safety of journalists. I'm Patrick Carelchi.
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Speaker 1 (02:21):
Freedom of the press. It's one of our founding principles.
Yet the conflict between the people and the press has
reached epic proportions. The conflict is not a new development.
The battle between the people and the press has been
brewing for at least a generation. Middle America has largely
been powerless to the far left mainstream media. But something
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new is happening. The people. They aren't taking it anymore,
and they have some tools at their disposal. The information
war has reached such epic proportions that the mainstream media
claims to be concerned about the safety of the press.
But is that true? Are they really worried about the
safety of journalists. To find the answer, we follow the
rise of one of today's most controversial journalists, a man
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who helps us get to the bottom of the conflict
between the people and the press.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Fake news articles, outrageous and solatious.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
Toxic, paranoid, baseless allegation ranging on the credulous, potentially.
Speaker 7 (03:18):
Reaching millions of people writing conspiracy theories.
Speaker 8 (03:21):
And fomen's hatred of media.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
This is insane as a fake news story has turned
into something very real.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Oh well, when they say fake news, that includes any
reporting that contradicts their life, this narrative.
Speaker 9 (03:33):
You are fake news.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Relentless left wing bible blatant.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
Why it is an agenda? What you've just seen are
two different definitions of fake news, But both of them
can't be true. What is real news and what is
fake news? That's what you're going to learn in host
the Media's War on Truth.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
That last guy is Mike Cernovich, describing his film Hoaxed,
an extraordinary documentary on the phenomenon of fake news. This
messy film features some of the biggest names in alternative media,
including Sky Adams, Alex Jones, Stefan Molyniel, Jordan Peterson, and
Mike Cnovitch himself. Few in journalism have gone through the
meteoric rise that Mike Cnovitch has experienced. The man seemed
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to appear from out of nowhere to become one of
the most followed and most reviled figures in media, and
he seems to love every minute of it. I first
spoke with Mike in September twenty sixteen, when he was
still largely an undiscussed figure in legacy media. I was
struck by how different his demeanor was compared to his
Twitter persona. One on one, the guy was obviously smart, funny,
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and chrismatic, but on Twitter he more resembled rowdy Roddy Piper.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
Where Majia, Why won't the media cover Heart? Why is
the media being a stage sure Hillary in television? Winkie
Weeks in action? So the media is only covering the
pro Hillary side? Right here, cameras everywhere?
Speaker 10 (04:51):
Where?
Speaker 6 (04:51):
Are the cameras on the proprity people.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
He was a villain that relished in the role. Like
most overnight success stories, Mike's has been a long time coming.
Originally a self help author, he'd eventually had journalist to
his talent stack and has unquestionably broken some major stories
and arguably forced one of the most jaw dropping moments
of the twenty sixteen election.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
So I never went to journalism school and thought I
want to one day be Woodward and Bernstein or anything
like that. I just didn't like I don't like being
lied to, and I thought, well, let's tell the truth
about what is actually going on here.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
But Mike found his way into journalism in a roundabout way.
Raised in a small town in Illinois around nothing but
cornfields and soybean farms, Mike Cernovich grew up a poor,
chubby kid who got picked on a lot until he
had a life changing moment. He describes the time in
his self help book Gorilla Mindset.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
One day a bully beat me up badly. It was humiliating.
My sister had to pull the attacker off of me.
I felt the moralized and powerless. There was a mattress
in our garage, and I went there and laid down
on it, and I cried myself asleep. My dad came
home from work. He opened the garage door, looked down
at me with part pity and park contempt, and he
asked me one question that changed my life. When are
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you going to get serious? Those words, coupled with the
expression on his face, were a wake up call for me.
I made the decision there I would get serious, very serious.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
He began training hard in martial arts, eventually claiming to
have beaten up all but one of his past bullies.
He'd later channel that energy into a different direction. He'd
ultimately move out to southern California to attend law school
and later start a law blog. That was his first
step into journalism.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
I got involved in legal journalism probably ten or fifteen
years ago. I had a law blog that I kept
as a hobby. And one thing that I would notice
is that in judicial opinions discussing prosecutorium's conduct, the judges
would never identify the prosecutor by name. I would look
into court records and court filings to find obscure information
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about people who engaged in un ethical legal conduct.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
At the time, he didn't even realize that what he
was doing was just journalism, basically being curious about something
and digging in to find the answer. He moved away
from the law blog and started a nonline magazine for
what he described as alpha males, and would develop a
self help business around an idea he calls Gorilla Mindset,
publishing books and producing self help seminars around the concept.
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But he'd get drawn back to journalism when he got
a tip from some of his blog readers.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
I think the first time I ever really did journalism
was when I had a bunch of readers in Budapest, Hungary,
and at the time I was going to go to
Budapest just to go to the opera house or something,
and they told me, hey, you know, the media is
really lying about the migration issue is happening. And I thought, okay,
I'll go figure that out.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
At the time, in twenty fifteen, there was a major
immigration crisis hitting Europe like a ton of.
Speaker 11 (07:51):
Bricks, hundreds of angry migrants something demonstrating outside Budapest's Kleesei
International railway station.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
And I went to the Colleti train station in Hungary
and Budapest, and I noticed, yeah, that the media had
not been telling the truth.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
The media in the area was branding the European migrants
as refugees. However, what Mike saw was something different.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
But the issue is what's the difference between a refugee
and a migrant And that's not something that the media
is prepared to discuss it that they thought about now.
The difference is that a migrant is leaving this country
for a better economic opportunity, and that's not something I
want to knock. But that's different than a pure refugee.
Here's what I noticed at the Colleti transtation. There were
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signs I kid you not that were literally saying do
not stop in Denmark because under the Refugee Migration Act,
whichever country you get fingerprinted first is the country you
have to stay in. And I thought, well, Denmark's a
pretty nice country, but Denmark doesn't have as generous of
benefits as Germany and Austria.
Speaker 11 (08:55):
Most people demonstrating outside the station have valid tickets and
demanded to be alive travel onto Germany.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
I realized, okay, there's more to the story than as
being reported, and that was the beginning.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Like so many others, including yours, truly, Mike had unintentionally
stepped into a life of journalism.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
Even though I didn't note at the time. I was
doing journalism but not really realizing it. But I would
only do it as a one off. I wasn't trying
to get Scoops right.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
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Mike saw that the media wasn't telling the truth about
the European migrant crisis, but he was ready to step
away from journalism again. That's until something happened. The campaign
of the century was taking shape.
Speaker 12 (11:00):
Ladies and gentlemen, I am a of facially.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Running for president of the United States, and we are
going to make our country great again.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
In twenty fifteen, I had strongly held political beliefs, which
was that I hated both parties equally. I had what
would be called a negative moment with politics during the
bailouts of Wall Street. The idea of being politically involved,
there being on the side was something I held and contempt.
I was anti politics, anti both political parties. And of
(11:38):
course that was pre Trump, because as we know, Trump
arrived and he changed everything.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
You've called women you don't like, fat pigs, dogs, slavs
and disgusting animals.
Speaker 12 (11:51):
Your Twitter account only ROSI O'donald, No, it wasn't.
Speaker 13 (11:57):
They said there were weapons of mass destruction.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
There were none, and they knew there were none.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
They're and tired. That's a matter of principle.
Speaker 10 (12:07):
The biggest liar.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
You probably are worse than Jet Bush.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
And you know I said to somebody that is really
the messenger.
Speaker 9 (12:13):
The messenger is important.
Speaker 12 (12:15):
I could have one man saying we're going to text
you twenty five, and I can say another, listen to
your motherfuckers.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
Trump just showed up, and I thought, this guy's fun.
I want to see him smash things. I want to
see him call everybody out. I want to watch the show.
I didn't even know what Trump's political issues were. I
just knew that this is fun.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
What he was struck by in the early part of
the twenty sixteen election, was it. The media thought Trump's
ceiling was just three percent.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
At the time. I said, you people are crazy, like
the Trump is everywhere, and he's got he's got a
very strong shot. And in fact, the GOP they can't
win the general election. The only person person in the
GOP running who could win the election as Trump. And
then of course everybody told me I was dumb, didn't
know what I was talking about, stick to lifting weights.
(13:11):
And I thought, okay, now now you guys have started
argument with me, so I'm gonna get into this.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Like so many citizen journalists, what caught his eye during
the election cycle was the difference between what he was
witnessing firsthand and what the mainstream media was telling the public.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
And I noticed something that I wasn't seeing in the news,
which was if you go to a Trump rally, good time,
everybody's nice. Occasionally, you know, maybe a punch gets thrown
that shouldn't and I don't have any tolerance for that
kind of stuff. But if you compare a Trump rally
to a rock concert or even to a left wing event,
you'll find out that they're peaceful. But you go outside
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of the Trump rally and there's like carnage. People are
throwing bottles by people, I mean in TIFA far left
in protests, throwing glass bottles at the police, chanting f
the police, attacking Trump supporters. I saw a guy get
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his nose broken, and if you turned on the news,
they would say, can you believe how bad these Trump
rallies are? And I said, wait a minute, the Trump
rallies are actually quite nice, but outside is the carnage.
So then I started streaming what was happening outside of
the Trump rallies and kept doing that and I went
from there.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Mike's Twitter following was on their rise. He started using
a live video sharing app called Periscope that connects to
Twitter and was providing his followers a perspective that they
weren't getting anywhere else. As the Democratic National Convention was
opening in Philadelphia, a major scandal broke out.
Speaker 14 (14:45):
The latest emails released by Wikileak suggests the top officials
at the Democratic National Committee planned to undermine Bernie Sanders
presidential campaign.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Protests erupted outside the DNC convention. Sanders' supporters were pissed.
The mainstream media largely ignored the protests. Mike Cernovich did not.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
You can think which you want. There's a lot of
people here, so I'm gonna give you a tour of
this park that we're at by the convention center, just
so you can get a sense of how many fucking
people are here, Hilarie.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
He described what he was doing as journalism about journalism.
He wanted to show where the press was and where
they were not, what they were doing, and what they
weren't doing. As the twenty sixteen campaign raged on, Mike
was naturally finding ways to expose the mainstream media's bias,
he decided to hone in on a taboo subject, Hillary's health.
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Hillary Clinton had serious health incidents throughout the years, going
back to nineteen ninety eight, when she got a serious
blood clot on her knee. In two thousand and five,
she fainted during a luncheon speech. Then in early two
thousand and eight, during a TV interview in the heat
of her first presidential run, a problem reared at Dougley head.
Speaker 15 (15:57):
How will you use your husband, Bill Clinton in the administration?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
You know this?
Speaker 15 (16:08):
I was reading in the paper yesterday, and this was
what happens in these long campaign as you get to
the yes, well, you know what I want to hold
you on here any longer, because you probably could use
some Senator thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
At first it looked like an isolated incident, but then
it happened again a few days later.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
I talked way too much.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
She'd eventually dropped out of the race, paving the way
for Obama's election. He later appointed her as Secretary of
State in two thousand and nine, then, shortly after taking
the position.
Speaker 8 (16:42):
Renounced last night Senator Clinton. Secretary Clinton was preparing to
depart the State Department for a meeting at the White
House and fell in the basement as she was walking
towards her car, and she suffered a fracture of her
right elbow.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
The health concerns just continued to pop up, with another
coughing fit in twenty twelve. Many Americans think we select
our presidential front runners. That's rarely the case. The parties
pick and mold their front runners years in advance, which
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is why a few days after Obama won reelection, Hillary
started her branding campaign for a twenty sixteen presidential run
to be his successor, and her health came into question.
Speaker 13 (17:27):
You know you will be sixty nine and twenty sixteen
if you ran, If you want two terms. You would
be seventy seven.
Speaker 8 (17:33):
Is your age a concern to you?
Speaker 15 (17:36):
It really isn't.
Speaker 12 (17:37):
I am, thankfully knock on wood, not only healthy, but
have incredible stamina on energy.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
But just one day after her Barbara Walters interview aired,
Hillary was rushed to a doctor and diagnosed with a
concussion after feigning again. The episode couldn't be kept under wraps.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
We have more about some big news that broke this weekend,
the State Department saying that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
fainted from dehydrat after an illness and got a concussion.
She has canceled one trip, and ABC Senior Foreign Affairs
correspondent Martha radditts now has the latest on her condition.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
She had to be admitted into the hospital for a
blood clot that formed in the space between her brain
and her skull behind her right ear. The head injury
was so serious she was forced to wear special glasses
for double vision. The optics of the incident so soon
after telling the world she was healthy provided a clear
problem for a twenty sixteen run. So she did something unprecedented.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
This is very improbable.
Speaker 13 (18:35):
This is not an interview I ever expected to be doing.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Just A few weeks after being released from the hospital,
Hillary appeared with President Obama in a joint interview with
sixty minutes and what was the message delivered to the public.
Speaker 13 (18:47):
Why were you so insistent about wanting her to be
Secretary of State?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Well, I was a big admirer of Hillary's before our
primary battles and the general election. Her discipline, her stamina.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Her stamina. The political class seemed to know something the
public did not. She'd eventually ditched the double vision glasses,
but her violent coughing fits continued. So when the twenty
sixteen presidential campaign was fully underway, it shouldn't have been
a surprise that Hillary's health was going to be an issue.
Matt Dredge was the first to bring it up in
a big way.
Speaker 10 (19:21):
She's old and she's sick. She's not a contender. They're
making her a contender with these propped up Saturday Night
Live things. It's like a head on a stick. She
is not a viable, vibrant leader for this country of
three hundred including the illegals, three hundred and eighty million.
Anybody who was seventy years old whose hypothyroid You do
not elect the president. Ladies, and gentlemen, you don't do it.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Then just a few weeks later, Trump picked up the
baton and, in pure Trumpian fashion, drove the message home.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
By the way, Hillary Clinton does not have the strength
or the stamina. She doesn't have the strength.
Speaker 13 (20:00):
Or the stamina to be present. She doesn't she has
got and I mean this, no strength, no stamina.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
She cannot lead us.
Speaker 13 (20:10):
She doesn't have the strength or the stamina to be presidents.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
Say that.
Speaker 10 (20:15):
Take a look.
Speaker 13 (20:15):
She goes to an event, the press is told what
to say, where to go, They put them in a pen,
they hold them. She does a little event and then
she goes away for four or five days. She doesn't
have the strength of the stamina. I mean, you know,
she's got a name and people will stupidly vote for her.
She doesn't have the strength or the stamina. I'm not
like Hillary Clinton. She's got no strength, She's got no stamina.
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She doesn't have the strength or the stamina.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
To be president. Nobody even knows what happened to hers,
Like she went on with w why do you keep
going on this?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Trump was pounding away at the message and at a
time when the exhaustion of the campaign was clearly beginning
to wear on Hillary. By the beginning of twenty sixteen,
the uncontrollable coughing fits were back. Was it about this
time in April twenty sixteen that Mike Cernovich starts to
publicly identify this issue. In a series of tweets, he
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brought attention to her health. Quote. Hillary simply does not
have the energy, or health or stamina to fight Trump
one on one, he tweeted. If you can't see this,
you're truly blinded by hate. He added, No one in
the mainstream media was critically reporting about her obvious health problems,
so Mike began blogging about it. As Hillary's coughing fits continued,
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the media was forced to cover it, and the only
way they knew how claiming the attacks and her health
were sexist.
Speaker 10 (21:31):
And there's this veiled sexism that they've been accused of.
Speaker 15 (21:34):
Somebody doesn't have the strength and stamina, somebody who should
not be president.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
But even with the media playing defense, the health concerns
swirling in social media were leaving a mark. So Hillary
introduced a new campaign slogan that appeared directly designed to
counter the brewing controversy.
Speaker 13 (21:51):
If you could sum up what is the big idea
of your cannabis.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Look, we are stronger together.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
We are stronger together in facing our internal challenges and
our external ones.
Speaker 13 (22:00):
We are stronger together if we work to improve the economy.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
It was no coincidence that the word stronger was in
her slogan. Her campaign might as well have said Hillary
was sick. The message started to become clear to the
twitter verse.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
Sick Hillary. What happened there was Scott Adams had just
written that he thought that Hillary looked unhealthy, and I
looked at Hillary and I thought Hillary's unhealthy. And my brain,
just due to being a lawyer, is always looking for
logical inconsistency.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
And Mike noticed that Hillary was canceling events and hiding
from the media. By contrast, Trump was everywhere.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
There was even a time she went two hundred and
fifty five days, I believe, without doing the press conference.
And thus I started with a friend that started a
countdown clock saying when was Hillary's last press conference.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Conservative media was, however, fixated on Hillary's shady finances, but
it was falling flat. The Clinton's financial corruption was already
baked in the cake. People think all politicians are corrupt,
but bad health that's a fatal flaw. Mike's instincts gravitated
to an area that the media was saying was completely
off limits. By early August, Mike began publicly advocating that
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Hillary's health was this single issue of the election. By contrast,
the media was not only ignoring her health, they were
actively trying to marginalize anyone talking about it. Mike attacked
the issue nearly full time.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
Nobody wants a week president in the United States. Nobody
wants the sick president in the United States. Nobody wants
a so called me and surian candidate or a weekend
at Hillary's type person. So that's why we hit the
health thing heart.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Mike got the hashtag Hillary's health trending and posted article
after article on the subject, sometimes making wild speculations. If
the media wasn't going to cover the unknowns about her health,
Mike would fill the void in a way that got attention.
He wondered about what looked like a lesion on her tongue.
He questioned whether a specific member of her Secret Service
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detail was possibly her medical handling. He published articles quoting
medical professionals about her potential ailments.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
Where she's having pre reflexes and falling, and that's led
one physician who believes she has Parkinson's.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
He led with headlines like Hillary's health cannot be ignored, and.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
We kept pushing it. We kept pushing it, We kept
pushing the narrative. For example, she had a stool with
every event that she would kind of lean on, so
we would say, well, why does she have a stool?
And the next thing you know, the stool's gone. And
it was unrelenting. Because she was not healthy.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
People started combing the internet for any signs of Hillary's frailty.
They found images of her needing help upstairs at a
campaign stop. The Judge Report ran with the images. Of course,
the far left CNN entered claiming that questions about her
health were the stuff of conspiracy theories. Brian Stelter led
the charge and.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
The planting campaign.
Speaker 8 (24:50):
Whether you agree with them or not, they are right
tonight to be saying these are just conspiracy theories. They've
been debunked time and time again.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
But no matter what the media did to try to
make the issue off limits, a concern over her health
kept growing. She was forced to respond.
Speaker 10 (25:04):
The new one is that you are unhealthy, that you
you had a concussion.
Speaker 13 (25:09):
Are you in good health?
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Here?
Speaker 7 (25:11):
You take my take my pulse while I'm talking to you,
so make sure I'm alive.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Oh my god.
Speaker 13 (25:17):
There's nothing there, nothing there.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Can you open this jar of pickles? This has not
been tampered.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
She may have been able to open the jar, but
she was still an immedia pickle because you see, Mike
wasn't operating purely on a hunch. He claimed to receive
some inside information.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Now, as you know, Secret Service does not leak. That
is the one law enforcement agency where they're just not
going to tell you anything. However, Hillary Clinton had mistreated
Secret Service for years and years and years. I'm not
going to say my source was Secret Service, but I
was informed to monitor Hillary and to have someone constantly
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follow her around because there kind of would be an incident.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
The issue became so toxic for Hillary that any cancelation
on her schedule would have surely caused an internet firestorm.
At the time, Trump was everywhere tirelessly campaigning the Hillary's
health meme contrasting the two candidates created pressure for Hillary
to go out when she probably shouldn't have, and in
early September twenty sixteen, the demands of the campaign started
to catch up with her, and.
Speaker 12 (26:25):
I want to thank Congresswoman Marcia Fudge for hosting us.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
I've been talking.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
So she started making serious mistakes.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Being grossly generalistic.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
You could put half of Trump's supporters into what I
call the basket of deplorables.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Right.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
The racist, sexis homophobic, xenophobic, islamophobic, you name it.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
The pace because of the questions people are asking got
too much for her, and then that led to the
event on nine to eleven.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
This is an NBC News special report. Here's Lester Holds
a Good Day from New York.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Some concerns raised this morning about the well being of
Hillary Clinton, Democratic candidate for president, after she left the
nine to eleven memorial service at Ground Zero earlier than expected.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Strangely, the media claim they didn't follow Clinton as she
left the event, So the details of the incident were
at first sketchy, but then the real story began to leak.
Speaker 14 (27:33):
That I wanted to bring our viewers up to date
on a story that is breaking right now that I
just learned about within the last fifteen or twenty minutes.
As you know, there are many dignitaries gathered at the scene,
including Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, who was at ground zero,
was there for the ceremony and left unexpectedly left early
because of what appeared to be a medical episode. I
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have a law enforcement source who was there, who was
fifteen feet away from Hillary Clinton. He says she was
standing on a curb with a protective detail waiting for
her motorcade. My sore says she stumbled off the curb,
appeared to faint, lost one of her shoes that wound
up underneath the van. Her protective detail, I'm told, helped
her into that van, and then the van took off,
presumably in the direction of a hospital. They grabbed her shoe.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
And Hillary apparently fainted for the third time that we
know of, and luckily and a stute bystander captured it
all on video.
Speaker 13 (28:25):
Let's watch this video for a second, her apparently almost
falling but captured, caught by people, presumably Secret Service agents
around her.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
The media tried to claim Hillary just stumbled, but the
video clearly showed that she collapsed. It was a stunning moment.
The news spread like wildfire.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
My phone was bringing because I'm a night I was
up to probably four in the morning that night, so
I was sleeping. I was happy, dreaming away about something.
I'm sure, and then Shanna shakesma. She says, Michael, everybody's
calling you. Something must have happened. But then, of course
I signed online and saw the now famous tape of
Hillary collapsing.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
After watching the video, he jumped online to gloat with
his followers.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
I told you, I'm declining to pull it, sir, because
I will not accept awards from the hoax media.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
The fake news media, who just days ago were saying
concerns over Hillary's health were pure conspiracy theories, now had
to acknowledge your health was indeed an issue That day.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
Was a major vindication of me. It is a great
media lie, and it's an insult to conspiracy theorists across
the world, the claim that I spread a conspiracy theory
about her health, when no, the conspiracy theory was that
she was actually healthy.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
This was the event that made Mike Cernovich the enemy
of the mainstream media, and why because he made the
media look ridiculous. Media coverage on Mike started to trickle
in The New Yorker featured him in an article entitled
Trolls for Trump. In October twenty sixteen, The story largely
positioned him as an influential supporter of Trump's candidacy. The
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rest of the media probably would have left him alone
after that. The press tends to ignore effective journalists on
the right. But then the unthinkable happened.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Right now, a historic moment.
Speaker 10 (30:10):
We can now project the winner of the.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Presidential racia that projects Donald Trump wins the presidency.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
The business Tayko on the TV.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Like so many other Trump supporters, Mike Cernovich was added
to the media's hit list.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
I want to say, I'm like a zoo animal they
were studying. They would all they all know who I was,
but they wouldn't talk about me. That's another point I
guess about the New Yorker article. That was a big
awakening moment for me. Is all these people who, oh,
never heard of this guy, Nobody knows who he is.
When that article came, everybody goes, yeah, I told you
Cernovich is a loser. He's an insecure, wannabe alpha male. Whatever. Wow,
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all you people who ignored me are sharing this article.
You clearly know a lot about me. So that's when
I realized that they were all pretending to not know
who I was, and they were.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Lying their close surveillance of Mike would soon play out.
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Speaker 1 (31:15):
Welcome back to Red Pilled America. So in twenty sixteen,
Mike Cernovich played a key role in exposing Hillary Clinton's
health problems. Throughout most of the campaign, the media pretended
as if Mike didn't exist. But once Donald Trump won
the presidency, he quickly became a target of the media.
The first major media hit piece against him arrived in
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the form of a sixty minute story about the purveyors
of fake news.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
In this last election, the nation was assaulted by impostors
masquerading as reporters.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
The media, unwilling to admit that Trump legitimately won the presidency,
began a conspiracy theory that fake news led to his victory,
and the show placed Mike right at the center of
it all. Sixty Minutes even suggested that Mike was connected
to an outrageous crime.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
This December, Edgar Welch opened fire in a Washington, DC pizzeria.
He told police he was there to rescue children forced
into prostitution by Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
A few weeks before election Day twenty sixteen, Wiki Week's
published some emails of John Podesta, a top advisor to
Hillary Clinton. Online chatrooms began to discuss what they thought
was a strange code language used in the emails. Some
speculated that the use of the word pizza was code
for pedophilia. Followers of the internet phenomenon called it pizzagate.
Speaker 6 (32:36):
The idea that I was some kind of huge Pizzagate spriuder,
when what in fact happened is I posted to a
hashtag unrelated stories just about pedophilia.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Mike had often been criticizing the media for normalizing pedophilia.
The New York Times, Salon dot com, and others published
articles arguing that pedophiles were not monsters. It was a disorder,
not a crime, they argued. So Mike used the trending
pizzagate hashtag in the story to criticize the media on
its gross normalization of pedophilia. At times, he was imprecise
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with his words, and admittedly he enjoyed a good conspiracy theory,
all of which left him vulnerable. A man would end
up entering a DC pizzeria, thought by some Pizzagate believers
to be the center of a child pedophile ring, and
shot at the only locked door in the restaurant, thinking
he was saving trapped kids, but there were no trap kids. Luckily,
no one was hurt. The man was arrested and sentenced
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to several years in prison, but it was the perfect
opportunity for the media to try and take down Mike.
Sixty Minutes opened up their segment with the shooting and
suggested that Mike was somehow connected to the crime and
perhaps was even responsible for it.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
The police say there is no sex trafficking conspiracy, but
millions read about it on dozens of websites, including one
called Danger and Play, which wrote Clinton's inner circle includes
child traffickers, pedophiles, and now members of a sex call.
Danger in Play is written by Michael Cernovich, a Southern
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California lawyer who describes himself as right of center politically,
but who has become a magnet for readers with a
taste for stories with no basis in fact. These news
stories are fakes.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
They're definitely not fake.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
They're laws not that at all. One hundred percentro.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Stunningly, though, when Mike published the entire interview transcript, sixty
minutes said something entirely different. During the interview, Scott Pleay,
the host of the show, admitted that the show's researchers
verified that Mike never claimed the pizzeria was involved in
a child pedophile, erring that admission never made the show.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
And then I went on sixty minutes, and that was
when I was on everybody's radar because everybody was hyped
when they found out that I was going to be on,
because they thought that he's going to be crushed. Everybody said,
I can't wait to watch Cernovich go into sixty minutes.
He's going to be destroyed, and the hashtag for sixty
minutes trended, trended, trended. Everybody was tweeting at me, you're
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a loser, can't wait to watch you get destroyed. I
go on.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
In August, he published this headline, Hillary Clinton has Parkinson's disease.
Physician confirms you don't think that's misleading. No, you believe
it's true today.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Oh absolutely, she had a seizure and froze up walking
into her mortorcade.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
Well, she had pneumonia, I'd be how do you know
who told you that?
Speaker 6 (35:37):
Well, the campaign told us that, why would you trust
a campaign? Afterwards, media silence, nothing, and I go, I
know I did well then, because they would be letting
me know if I hadn't. And then that's when the
media pieces started to show up, and of course they
took a very dishonest tone, which was, oh, he's a troll,
and they tried to again dehumanize me, to make me
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seem like I'm not a human being.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Even after being branded as the leader of fake news,
Mike kept breaking real stories, major stories, including the story
proving Trump was right about the Obama administration spying on him.
Mike also started to change his approach, becoming less trolley,
more publicly empathetic, a bit more kumbaya. He began an
effort to shame journalists into covering violence against Trump supporters
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by calling out the entire press corps at a White
House briefing.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
What about violence against Trump supporters? Of Barkley, the violence
against Trump supporters is that being covered?
Speaker 11 (36:31):
Why is that?
Speaker 6 (36:33):
Why will nobody here cover the violence against Trump supporters.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
It was around this time that a left wing video
creator started to elevate his harassment on Mike on Twitter.
The guy worked for CNN's parent company, Turner Broadcasting.
Speaker 6 (36:46):
There was a guy and I'm not gonna name him
because I don't want to give people more attention who
started trolling me on Twitter with tweets that I don't
even think i'd written right, And I thought, oh, okay, this
guy's a little creepy. And then he started telling his
followers to like dog pile of me or whatever the term.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
And I just.
Speaker 6 (37:03):
Started getting all kinds of harassment, creepy messages from his followers.
They would invade me like fifty or a hundred times
anytime I did a video. So I blocked the guy
and then he tells his followers Cernovich blocked me message Cernovich,
which by the way, is inciting harassment. And I got
the usual hey weird, Mike, hey this, and that.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
The harassment could have stopped there, but this Twitter gang
took it a step further. They began sending Mike some
pretty disturbing messages, including a photoshopped image of semen on
top of a picture of Mike and his daughter, with
just the slang word for semen in the message.
Speaker 6 (37:39):
And that set me off.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Mike said he checked to see if the person who
sent the message interacted with and followed the Turner broadcasting
guy he blocked, and sure enough they did.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
And I just went ham I think as any father would,
and did some very very heated periscopes and then I thought, Okay,
this person's gonna just go away, move on.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
But he didn't.
Speaker 6 (38:00):
Just unrelenting, I would do an event threats, so Veny
would say, we're geting threats.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
The threats led to the cancelation of Mike's event, and
the stalker, as Mike now refers to him, emailed Mike
to ridicule him about the cancelation. Mister stalker kept escalating
the harassment.
Speaker 6 (38:15):
There's a video now the person has made of my
wife and there's a baby being beaten up in the background.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Mister stalker used one of Mike's videos and added audio
of a baby crying and slapping sounds to suggest Mike
and his wife were abusing their child. The video was
a grotesque fake, and.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
The person made a video tagging in child protective service
organizations saying someone needs to rescue this baby. That's like
a different.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Level the obsession. Mister stalker and his followers have with
Mike is alarming. Mister Stalker has threatened to call the
police to rescue Mike's daughter, a threat that can be
interpreted as swatting a dangerous act or prankster's attempt to
get law enforcement to send a large number of armed
police to a particular address. It's dangerous because someone could
get mistakenly killed. Mister Stalker's threatened to crash a wedding
(39:03):
that Mike was attending with his daughter that led to
a police report filed by the groom. The tweeter gang
has edited audio of his daughter to make it sound
like she's saying things about pedophiles. Mister Stocker has even
tweeted out Mike's phone number, and others from this Twitter
gang have tweeted out his address and made death threats
to him and his wife.
Speaker 6 (39:27):
Real sick stuff, We're talking, you know, real beyond the pale.
And this has been going on for about two years.
Of course, I report the tweete nothing happens.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
But besides the moral concerns, Mike is troubled by their fixation.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
For another reason, we notice that these people who commit
these crimes the Capitol because that shooter, for example, anything.
Speaker 9 (39:46):
I'm Jeff Lauren. This is our Western addition. We are
going to begin with a mass shooting in Maryland at
a newspaper office in Annapolis. A gunman with a shotgun
opened fire this afternoon at the Capital Gazette. Five were killed,
several others.
Speaker 5 (40:01):
Hurts raymost reportedly had sued the paper for defamation and lost.
Threats against the paper were made on social media as
recently as today.
Speaker 6 (40:10):
He started off on Twitter, making threats on Twitter and
stalking journalists on Twitter. So the people who stock you
there is a real safety risk if it's multi year fixation.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Along the way, Mike attempted to inform the mainstream media
of a situation in hopes that they deescalate the harassment.
Mister Stalker was a left wing political commentator. Maybe some
peer pressure would have brought the harassment to an end.
Mike even attempted to inform Turner Broadcasting employees and see
ann journalists at the time Brian Stelter, Oliver Darcy, and
Jake Tapper, all reporters that claim to be concerned about
(40:42):
the safety of journalists. Mike says none of them responded.
The division of Turner Broadcasting that mister Stalker worked with
closed in October twenty eighteen, but a month after its closure,
mister Stalker threatened to send police to Mike's house for
a fabricated allegation. Mike eventually filed an affidavid with law
enforcement in hopes of ending the continued rets. Police eventually
(41:04):
contacted mister Stalker, prompting him to delete tweets about Mike's family,
which leads us back to the question, is the mainstream
media really concerned about the safety of journalists. The answer
apparently depends on who you are.
Speaker 6 (41:25):
One of the awakening moments for my wife was when
I was on the phone with the Hovington Post and
they were planning this big hit piece on me. The
blogger there said, oh, yeah, everybody in DC knows, but like,
nobody's gonna write that story.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
If the media really cared about the safety of journalists,
they would have come to Mike's defense, regardless of their
feelings about his brand of tough journalism, because we all
know the media doesn't mind an aggressive reporter as long
as he's going after their enemy.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
The White House intern trying to grab the microphone out
of Acosta's hand.
Speaker 8 (41:57):
White House Press Sarah Hokopy Sanders, implying a Costa got
physical with the intern.
Speaker 7 (42:01):
The administration won't tolerate a porter placing his hands on
a young woman just trying to do her job.
Speaker 8 (42:06):
Several journalists and organizations are demanding a Cassus press pass
be reinstated.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
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