July 28, 2025 • 34 mins
When will America finally overcome the legacy of slavery? To find the answer, we follow the story of a family that faced years of racist attacks, and what they did to overcome them.
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in school, on the big screen and in the media,
Americans are lectured about the legacy of slavery and how
it is held back the black community.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
They're gonna put y'all back in chase.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
This country was founded on white supremacy, and every single
institution and structure that we have in our country still
reflects the legacy of slavery.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
America has a history of two hundred years of slavery.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Were a love in a country now where the President
is in fanning environmental racism, economic racism, criminal justice racism,
healthcare racism.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
With this idea seeping into every aspect of our culture,
what do Black Americans need to do to finally overcome
America's original sin. I'm Patrick Carelci.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
And I'm Adriana Cortes.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
And this is Red Pilled America, a storytelling show.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
This is not another talk show covering the day's news.
We're all about telling stories.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Stories. Hollywood doesn't want you to hear stories.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
The media mocks stories about everyday Americans that the globalist ignore.
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You can think of Red Pilled America as audio documentaries,
and we promise only one thing, the truth. Welcome to
Red Pilled America. Throughout the day, you can't turn on
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the TV, radio, or computer without hearing about racism in America,
in the lasting legacy of slavery. As hard as you
may try to avoid the topic, it's become a constant
motif in our daily lives. You're hearing about it right now.
We were promised that the election of Barack Obama would
finally put an end to the legacy of slavery.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
There is not a Black America and a White America
and Latino America and Asian America. There's the United States
of America.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
But race relations have arguably gotten worse since the election
of the first black president. What does the black community
need to do to finally overcome the legacy of slavery.
To find the answer, we're going to follow the story
of a family that faced years of racist attacks and
what they did to overcome them. This may sound odd today,
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but a Mexican man dating a Caucasian woman was once
relatively rare. When witnessed. It even raised the suspicion of
law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Rudy and I were stopped on numerous occasions just to
be stopped nothing. No head lights out, no tail lights out.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
That's Nancy, her new love interest. Rudy looked indigenous Mexican,
very brown, Nancy is Irish. As an eighteen year old
young lady, she was lily white with hazel eyes. In
the late nineteen sixties, interracial couples weren't yet a thing.
The two met at a local dance club called Baby
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Huey's and Guardena, California, a suburb roughly fifteen miles south
of downtown Los Angeles. Once they met, Rudy and Nancy
quickly began dating. In those early years, when the cops
saw them driving down the street on their new out,
they'd pulled them over to make sure Nancy was okay.
The interrogations occurred so often that it became a bit
of a routine for Rudy.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
You know, I would like to sit back and say
how many times it happened, but god, I'm gonna say
at least a dozen times. He knew it and expected it.
He knew what was happening. Let's put it that way.
I'm not gonna say he expected it. But when we
got stopped, he knew right away what was going to happen.
He had to get out, you know, and sometimes he
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didn't have to get out. So and I think that
them seeing me sitting in the car with the you know,
an obviously Mexican, Mexican guy, just you know, it was
an alert thing to them. It was like driving while black.
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You know.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
It was.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Just one of those things. So, yeah, we got stopped
and they would check his ID and check for whatever
it was they had to check for. In those days,
they didn't you know, you couldn't. You had to sit
there for a while because you couldn't get online or
do it yourself.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Nancy says it didn't seem to bother Rudy. He grew
up in a slightly rougher neighborhood, served in Vietnam and
respected law enforcement, but the constant inquisition infuriated Nancy because
it was something entirely new to her. She came from
the predominantly white suburb of Torrents, which bordered Guardina and
stretched all the way to the Pacific Ocean. At that
young age of eighteen, Nancy was naive to the ways
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of the world. She spent her early years in Catholic school,
then by fourth grade transitioned to public school, and her
day society self segregated and largely kept to their own neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
But it was just the way that it was, and
you had your own community and you had everything to
do in your own community.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
It was such a fear.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Of having, you know, any kind of other culture than
your own. You were like looked at and you were
it was, and it's just it was. You'd have to
categories rise everybody, Black, White, Mexican, everybody as a racist
in those days, everybody, because they all did the same thing.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
And if some outsiders tried to make inroads into a
neighborhood populated by people that weren't of their kind, the
locals made moves to stop them. Nancy, remember, is one
of those instances.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Of Manhattan Beach. They had there was this big plot
of land that's still there, and they were going to
build brand new houses on that land. And they had
some black families that were interested in wealthy black families
that came in not wealthy, but could afford it. A
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bunch of Manhattan people got together, bought the property, donated
it to the city to use as a park, and
it's still there.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
By the time she'd met Rudy, this kind of behavior
already left a bad taste in her mouth. So when
the cops repeatedly interrupted Nancy and Rudy from getting from
point A to point B on date night, over time,
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it began to leave a mark, even making her a
bit protective over the issue. The racial profiling felt like
an injustice that shouldn't exist, whether you were black, White, Mexican, Asian,
or whatever, if you weren't bothering anyone. In her estimation,
no one should be bothering you. The two forged through
the profiling, continuing to date, even as it ruffled some
feathers in their respective families and communities.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
In those days, all I've thought of was how great
this was, and you know, we and how much in love.
I was falling in love and first time ever for
that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
In nineteen sixty nine, Rudy and Nancy married. A few
months later they had their first son, Me your Humble Host,
and two years after that, my sister Denise was born.
We were a pretty happy crew. Dad was outgoing, always
wanted to go on excursions. Nancy was shy and perhaps
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a bit of a homebody. So the dynamic worked out
for both of them. The young couple hardly had two
nickels to rub together. We first moved to dad's hometown
of Guardina, then bounced around to a series of apartments
in my mom's hometown of Torrents. The two Scrimpton saved
for a couple of years. In those days, it wasn't
unheard of to get into a mortgage with a few
thousand dollars. By nineteen seventy five, they'd saved enough to
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start looking to buy a house.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
We had a real estate guide looking for us, and
you know, we were just looking for houses, and.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
Well, we loved at a lot of places.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I honestly, after I thought about it, after years went
by and I really thought about it, and I knew
more about George which was Rudy's friend who was the
real estate guy. He just wanted to sell us a house.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
The realtter was using a technique of that time, and
that was show the client dump after dump after dump.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
And I mean places in Guardena that you you know,
you couldn't have the dog live in.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
It, and then once they saw those, the realtor would
take them to the house that they really wanted to
sell them. The Internet wasn't around at the time, so
you couldn't pop onto Zillo, Trulia or any number of
other real estate sites to get a layout of the land.
So for most people in the midst of this grift,
it was hard to get a handle on what was happening.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
And we told him what we wanted. You know, I
wanted a community with kids. It just was really important
to me that we lived in a community with kids
where you could like play outside. So this guy started
looking and then we found this. We looked at all
these different houses and then we found the Morning Cars
and he brought us to cars and new community new homes.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Carson is a suburb of Los Angeles, just south of
a little known town at the time called Compton.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Lots of kids in that neighborhood, like just there were
kids everywhere, and we were still young enough and everybody
else was still young enough to have children, so you
knew it was an up and coming lots of lots
of culture. You had Samowens, blacks, whites, Asians. It was
the it was perfect. The home was beautiful. It was
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only two bedrooms, but you know, had a family room
and a living room and a big kitchen, and it
was again, it was a beautiful neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
It was a new community. The city had only incorporated
a few years earlier, in nineteen sixty eight. The homes
were also relatively new, The yards were well kept. It
looked like a solidly middle class neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
But to me, it was like it was like black,
this utopia of as a young family. You know, here
i am in what my mid twenties or so, and
I'm just thinking this is this is like perfect. It's
the kind of neighborhood I grew up in without the farmland,
but you know, lots of kids, kids riding bikes in
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the you know, in the street, playing ball and all
of this kind of stuff, and we just we fell
in love with the house.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
So Mom and dad brought a few people to come
check it out.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
And before we moved in. You know, my brother in law, Terry,
he came over and he said, don't do it.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
She also brought her dad an oldest brother to the
house and they warned them against buying the house as well.
The neighborhood was about fifty percent black and the smattering
of everything else. Everyone that advised them against moving in
expressed that they were worried that they wouldn't fit in
with the demographics of the area, but having grown a
bit sensitive to the racial profile just a few years earlier,
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Mom was a bit protective over the issue. So any
attempt to dissuade them from living in an ethnically diverse
neighborhood was quickly discarded.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
And it was a lot of it was because it
was a minority neighborhood, but to me, it just did
that should not have mattered. If we're going there, we're
peaceful people, We're not going to bother them. And if
we're nice neighbors and they're nice people and we're nice people,
then what more could you ask for. We wanted something diverse,
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we wanted something young with kids in it. They were
the kids We're going to have fun and we were friendly,
you know, people that didn't care what color you were.
So how much more perfect can it be? Because well,
I don't care what color you are. You're not going
to care what color I am.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Right, So mom and Dad purchased the house. It was
a proud day. We took the classic family picture in
front of our new casa. But what the young couple
didn't realize at the time was that this area of
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nineteen seventy five, Nancy and Rudy saved up enough money
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to buy a home in Carson, California that they fell
in love with. But what the young couple didn't realize
at the time was that this area of Carson was
going through a major shift. By the second week in
our new home, troubling signs started to show.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I was at work, you guys were at school. Rudy
was at work, and.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
We came home with the police.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
At the house. Someone had broken in.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
He came, he got in the garage. Somehow, I don't
think the garage door access door had no lock on it,
and so he got in that way, but we had
the doors. Everything was locked, and he tried to kick
the door and you could see the feet prints on
the door coming in from the garage, the access door
from the garage. And then he just went around and
go back and just put something through the window and
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came in through the window. I can say I was
more pissed off and angry at the mess that they left.
I mean, it looked like they picked up the house
and shook it.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
It was beyond.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Ransacking. It was like, you know, and then took anything
of value. And we didn't have a lot of value.
Everything that we moved into that house was given to
us by somebody else, a family member, or it was
second hand or something. We just had no money. The
bed that we slept in was my mom and dad's bed.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
The thief was brazen. He hit up a few houses
on the block all at once. Someone heard him and
called the cops, and they nabbed the scum as he
was robbing the place across the street. For me was
a coming of age moment. The criminal had a big
black glad trash bag and filled it with whatever he could.
When the police brought the bag into our house. I
locked in on something that has still burned into my
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brain today. The bag was tied shut with my red bandana.
The thief used my favorite cowboy bandana to secure his
ill gotten gains. It was the first moment where I
realized that there were people out there that wanted to
take what I had. As troubling as the situation was,
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it could have been chalked up to just a fluke.
A bad seed had made his way into the neighborhood.
It was hopefully an anomaly. However, another red flag was
about to go up. A few months after moving in,
our parents threw a housewarming party. They invited friend's family
and the realtter that sold them the house.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
And when he came to the house warming, he was
carrying a gun and he brought it in my our room,
in the master bedroom, and he showed us the gun
for protection, he said. And immediately I thought to myself,
you've sold us a home in a neighborhood that you
feel compelled to arm yourself when you come to visit
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us for a housewarming. But again, I'm still so young
and naive. I just I wouldn't let it sink in.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
By the time that we'd moved into the house and Carson,
my mom had been using a babysitter near her work
to watch my sister and I during the day. So
to make sure that I had someone to come home
to after school, Mom arranged for us to use the
babysitter's address to attend an elementary school near her work.
The area was made up of predominantly Hispanics, Blacks, and Asians,
with the sprinkling of whites. It had the feeling of
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an elementary school version of Welcome Back Carter, if you
understand that reference. As we settled into our new home
and Carson, over the first few years, houses were going
up for sale throughout the neighborhood. The Samoans, the Asians,
and the whites were putting their houses on the market,
and the properties would be scooped up exclusively by black families.
The process happened in just a few years in now
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on Claven Carson. By the time I'd become old enough
to play outside by myself, roughly seven years old in
the nineteen seventies, we were the only white family in
the neighborhood. Everyone else was black, and I mean everyone
but Honestly, I didn't notice, and neither did my sister.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
That park had a club, big clubhouse there, and they
had a dance modern dance thing, you know, where they
put the makeup on and they had the leotards and
all this kind of stuff. And so they went to
the fair and performed at the Pomona Fair here and
the whole bit. And I remember one time somebody saying
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to Denise, I'm going to say she was probably seven
or eight six seven eight something like that, and somebody saying,
are you the only white kid in the performing?
Speaker 6 (19:00):
And she got I don't know, she didn't even think
about it.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I thought, Okay, this is good, this is good, and
she was the only white kid.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
My sister and I had two good friends, a brother
and sister duo named Maurice and Heather Simms. Maurice and
I would play pick up football games on the street
with the neighborhood kids. All the guys would take out
our BMX bikes to a local vacant lot that had
huge hills to drop in and mounds of dirt we'd
use as jumping ramps. On the weekends, Maurice and I
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would run the streets with the neighborhood boys. Denise was
too young to be outside without supervision, but she'd played
with Heather either at our place or at the Sims
house right down the street. For a few years, everything
was relatively normal. We got some looks around town, for sure,
but we were largely left alone. My baby brother, Casey,
was born when I was about nine and a half,
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and around that time the atmosphere oddly began to shift.
An animosity towards our family began to brew. It seemed
like overnight my name went from Patrick to Honky, and
my friends pretty quickly dwindled down to Jess Maurice. A
few years ago, I was having dinner with a prominent
Hollywood TV writer and somehow the topic of the racial
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slur Honky came up. He laughed at how unscary it sounded. Well,
the word takes on a whole new meaning when you're
surrounded by five or six black guys yelling it at you,
I responded. The idea was so foreign to him, he
didn't know how to respond. That's what I was going
through as nineteen eighty arrived, being the only sibling that
was allowed to play outside by myself, I got that
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slur frequently thrown at me. Denise, who just reached the
proper age to start playing outside without constant supervision, began
to feel the heat as well. While skipping rope with
the neighborhood girls, we.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Would do the double dutch, right, that's Denise, and I
was terrible at it, and they didn't like when I
tried to jump in because I would mess it up.
When I would walk up and I would want to play,
and I would only walk up if I was with Heather, heathermember,
Heather and Maurice or like they were our best friends.
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They were they had never saw our color. We didn't
see their color. In as far as I was concerned,
there was no color. So I would only walk up
to these girls if Heather was by my side, and
they would only hand me the ropes. I was only
allowed to, you know, be the spinner of the ropes.
This white girl is not jumping in right now because
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she's terrible. So I would, you know, play jump ropes
with them, and that was the only time they would
just say no. It's because I would say, is it
my turn, and they were like no. They'd always go no, no,
it's not your turn. So I'm like, okay, I'll just
keep spinning the spinning the ropes. I'll just be the
jump rope spinner whatever that was called.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
But that dismissiveness took a harsher turn.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
And there's one time that I remember that I was
going out to the car to get something out of
the car, and across the street as a bunch of
a lot of the neighborhood girls and they start singing
this song to me, black is Beautiful, White is sunky.
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If you don't believe me, ask a white honky. And
they said it really loud, and I thought, oh my gosh,
some of those are my friends that I play, you know,
jump rope with, and they're like pretty much harapping me
right now. So I jumped in the car and I hid.
I ducked down. I didn't even want to run back
in the house. I just got in the car and
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just ducked And I've wanted to look again to see
who is in that crowd who is singing this, you know,
obviously racist song to me. And I didn't even know
what a honky was. Nobody had ever called me that before.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
But one confrontation in particular pretty much ended any chance
of playing outside again.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I just remember being really traumatized too after that time
that you were held by knife point.
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Speaker 1 (23:38):
Welcome back. So the confrontations began to escalate in our
Carson neighborhood, but one encounter in particular pretty much ended
any chance of playing outside again. I think I was
turning about eleven, so I invited my elementary school friends
over for a sleepover birthday party. Everyone wanted to go
to the arcade, which was huge at the time, so
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my mom dropped us off down the street at the
Carson Mall. A bunch of quarters on pack Man, asteroids
and Space Invaders I'm sure. Then went outside to wait
for my mom to pick us up. But as we
were waiting, an older black teenager must have seen us
as easy prey and pulled a knife on me, demanding
we give him money.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I just remember being really traumatized too after that time
that you were held by knife point, because I remember
I was with Mom when we came to pick you
guys up. I was in the car and we were
going to pick you guys up in the front of
the mall, but you guys were waiting in the back,
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so there was a miscommunication. And you know, without cell
phones back then, We're sitting there waiting for you guys,
and you guys weren't coming out. And then I remember
us coming or going around the corner, and I just
I remember coming around the corner and the looks on
your faces was just complete fear. And you know, just
after that it was just terrify And then you weren't
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allowed to go to the mall anymore.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
From then on, playing outside was pretty much off limits.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
I don't have a lot of memories of playing outside,
you know, we really weren't allowed unless you know, Mom,
you know, maybe was shot outside with us. But I
don't remember really even being allowed to play outside very much.
We would go to Heather's house or she would come
to the house. But I remember the time we you know,
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I got a bike and I was so excited to
ride it, and Mom would was always like to stay
right in front of the house. Well, how are you
going to ride your bike? Like right in front of
the house. But remember she would let us ride to
the park if I was to go with you. But
I remember one time my friend Shannon had spent the
night and we begged for her to ride your bike,
and I rode my pink panther bike, and we were
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just riding around the front and circles in the street.
And we put the bikes down on the grass and
ran in the house to get a drink of water
and come back out and the bikes were already gone.
That definitely made Mom say, Okay, you guys can't even
you know, I don't even think we got another bike
after that, But we weren't even really allowed to ride
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bikes or play outside.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
We were now confined to the house. But things were
getting so bad that even making our way from the
front door to our car created opportunities for confrontation. So
I remember the time when we were outside with the car.
One time, the guy I think he might have been
either a friend at the guy from across.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
The street or what have you, who was very good neighbors. Yeah,
but it was the boy, the friend that was playing
basketball with him that started making the white comments and
the honky comments. And finally came over and spit on
our car. If you remember, of course, yeah, I was shaking,
but yeah, whatever he did. And then he came over
and he and I rolled the window up and he
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spit on the window.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I'll never forget that. We couldn't get out of the
car until he was out of sight. The attacks shifted
from verbal to a bit more.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Aggressive then, you know, then the people got bolder as
far as like, you know, we'd have wine bottles thrown
on the porch on the front lawn and beer cans,
and people would yell stuff as they were driving by
laugh and yell and so and then I went out.
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One time we had two cars with locks on the
gas caps. They were crazy glued shut. We had to
have somebody come out and pry the gas caps off.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
It became open season. No longer able to get us
in the street, they started to break down the boundary
of our home. That's when the break in started up
again in full force. It'd been years since someone had
broken into the house. But then we came home one
day and our front door was open. We'd been robbed.
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Then the next month we came home again, the front
door was open, robbed.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
How many times did that happen? I felt like it
was like a monthly thing there for a while.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
It was happening so often it became hard to keep track.
One ransacking of the house just blended into the next.
If I had to guess, I'd say it was about
twelve or fifteen times over the course of the next
year and a half.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Coming home and your house is torn apart. Your bedroom,
like all of our clothes were just you know, torn
out of the drawers. Remember our mattresses were flipped over.
You know, I remember having like my little twin Star,
little little pencils and stuff. They were just everywhere, and
some of them were broken, they were stepped on, I mean,
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are just it looked our house was so ransacked. They were.
And then I remember one time they kicked the dog.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
They had come in and they had kicked the dog,
and you know, the dog was cowering in a corner.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
And Benji was just laying there, couldn't move and was
just whining and crying. And you and I were just
so worried about him that that time. We didn't even
go to our room and look around the house. We
were just like the poor dog was obviously kicked or something,
because he's just been in there whining. That was just
so dramatic for us because it's such a violation.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
It's like you lived in a glasshouse. Then that's after
a while, that's what it was like.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
It was obvious we were being targeted because we didn't
see the police rolling up to any of the neighbors houses,
just ours, the only non blacks in town. After a
few times, the invaders weren't even taking anything anymore. It
was just a complete annihilation of the interior.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
There was nothing to take, and they had because it
was a monthly thing and they saw that. Why did
they continue coming back? What is the point if you're
not finding anything, what is the point? It's harassing. Maybe
they wanted us out of it. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
After a while, with the number of breakings racking up
and no one getting arrested, reporting the robbery to the
police became a big waste of time.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
I mean there was times, We're honest to god, I
didn't even call. We just cleaned it up.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I think me and you just left our room. We
just left it rundsactic. We keep cleaning it up.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yeah, because I remember when ten the cops came by
and said, oh, do they do this your room? Like, No,
that's how the rooms always looks. We just gave up.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
We're done here, we'll do it for you. Yeah, our
jaws are empty. Okay, yes, exactly. Yeah, we're all exposed.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
How does that saying go? If you don't laugh, you'll cry.
I asked my mom for the first time recently why
we didn't move out.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
Rudy did not want to move.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Why he just didn't want to go through the trouble
of doing it all, even with robberies, it just didn't
That kind of stuff just did not phase him. It
was just something that happened, and you know, things like
that didn't bother him.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Something was obviously brewing within my father, something abnormal. His
sister would later tell me that he returned from the
Vietnam War a different man. The experience somehow scarred him.
That may have been part of the issue, but not
all of it. As a father today, I see that
it's the man's job to keep the family safe, and
Dad was failing miserably in that regard.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
He didn't like change. He was not going to move.
I could move if I wanted to, but he was
going to stay there in that house until you know,
everything blew up.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
And everything was about to blow up even further. With
Honky becoming our de facto nickname, it wasn't hard to
tell that we were being targeted because we were white. Thankfully,
all of the breakings occurred during the weekdays when we
weren't home, but it was only a matter of time
before our luck ran out. It was December nineteen eighty two,
just a few days away from Christmas, and I woke
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up at that regular time in the morning, but to
my surprise, Mom wasn't there. Ever happened, I mean never ever?
She went to visit at Maryanne was the explanation I
got from my dad. Even as a preteen, I knew
something was off. My dad followed our same weekday ritual.
You dropped my sister, my little brother, and I off
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at our babysitters. That morning, my sister and I walked
down to a local park, which was across the street
from our school.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
You asked where do you think Mom was or something.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
And Denise knew, well, Dad was out celebrating his birthday.
A man broke into the house while we were there.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
And I just remember waking up to hearing Mom like
to scream really fast and just like a ugh, you know,
and like she got scared. So I just I don't
sit up or anything. I just open my eyes and
then I see Mom get dragged to her room by
a guy Serrey. Serrey.
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in school, on the big screen and in the media,
Americans are lectured about the legacy of slavery and how
it is held back the black community.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
They're gonna put y'all back in chase.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
This country was founded on white supremacy, and every single
institution and structure that we have in our country still
reflects the legacy of slavery.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
America has a history of two hundred years of slavery.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Were a love in a country now where the President
is in fanning environmental racism, economic racism, criminal justice racism,
healthcare racism.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
With this idea seeping into every aspect of our culture,
what do Black Americans need to do to finally overcome
America's original sin. I'm Patrick Carelci.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
And I'm Adriana Cortes.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
And this is Red Pilled America, a storytelling show.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
This is not another talk show covering the day's news.
We're all about telling stories.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Stories. Hollywood doesn't want you to hear stories.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
The media mocks stories about everyday Americans that the globalist ignore.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
You can think of Red Pilled America as audio documentaries,
and we promise only one thing, the truth. Welcome to
Red Pilled America. Throughout the day, you can't turn on
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the TV, radio, or computer without hearing about racism in America,
in the lasting legacy of slavery. As hard as you
may try to avoid the topic, it's become a constant
motif in our daily lives. You're hearing about it right now.
We were promised that the election of Barack Obama would
finally put an end to the legacy of slavery.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
There is not a Black America and a White America
and Latino America and Asian America. There's the United States
of America.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
But race relations have arguably gotten worse since the election
of the first black president. What does the black community
need to do to finally overcome the legacy of slavery.
To find the answer, we're going to follow the story
of a family that faced years of racist attacks and
what they did to overcome them. This may sound odd today,
(03:06):
but a Mexican man dating a Caucasian woman was once
relatively rare. When witnessed. It even raised the suspicion of
law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Rudy and I were stopped on numerous occasions just to
be stopped nothing. No head lights out, no tail lights out.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
That's Nancy, her new love interest. Rudy looked indigenous Mexican,
very brown, Nancy is Irish. As an eighteen year old
young lady, she was lily white with hazel eyes. In
the late nineteen sixties, interracial couples weren't yet a thing.
The two met at a local dance club called Baby
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Huey's and Guardena, California, a suburb roughly fifteen miles south
of downtown Los Angeles. Once they met, Rudy and Nancy
quickly began dating. In those early years, when the cops
saw them driving down the street on their new out,
they'd pulled them over to make sure Nancy was okay.
The interrogations occurred so often that it became a bit
of a routine for Rudy.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
You know, I would like to sit back and say
how many times it happened, but god, I'm gonna say
at least a dozen times. He knew it and expected it.
He knew what was happening. Let's put it that way.
I'm not gonna say he expected it. But when we
got stopped, he knew right away what was going to happen.
He had to get out, you know, and sometimes he
(04:31):
didn't have to get out. So and I think that
them seeing me sitting in the car with the you know,
an obviously Mexican, Mexican guy, just you know, it was
an alert thing to them. It was like driving while black.
(04:53):
You know.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
It was.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Just one of those things. So, yeah, we got stopped
and they would check his ID and check for whatever
it was they had to check for. In those days,
they didn't you know, you couldn't. You had to sit
there for a while because you couldn't get online or
do it yourself.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Nancy says it didn't seem to bother Rudy. He grew
up in a slightly rougher neighborhood, served in Vietnam and
respected law enforcement, but the constant inquisition infuriated Nancy because
it was something entirely new to her. She came from
the predominantly white suburb of Torrents, which bordered Guardina and
stretched all the way to the Pacific Ocean. At that
young age of eighteen, Nancy was naive to the ways
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of the world. She spent her early years in Catholic school,
then by fourth grade transitioned to public school, and her
day society self segregated and largely kept to their own neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
But it was just the way that it was, and
you had your own community and you had everything to
do in your own community.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
It was such a fear.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Of having, you know, any kind of other culture than
your own. You were like looked at and you were
it was, and it's just it was. You'd have to
categories rise everybody, Black, White, Mexican, everybody as a racist
in those days, everybody, because they all did the same thing.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
And if some outsiders tried to make inroads into a
neighborhood populated by people that weren't of their kind, the
locals made moves to stop them. Nancy, remember, is one
of those instances.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Of Manhattan Beach. They had there was this big plot
of land that's still there, and they were going to
build brand new houses on that land. And they had
some black families that were interested in wealthy black families
that came in not wealthy, but could afford it. A
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bunch of Manhattan people got together, bought the property, donated
it to the city to use as a park, and
it's still there.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
By the time she'd met Rudy, this kind of behavior
already left a bad taste in her mouth. So when
the cops repeatedly interrupted Nancy and Rudy from getting from
point A to point B on date night, over time,
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it began to leave a mark, even making her a
bit protective over the issue. The racial profiling felt like
an injustice that shouldn't exist, whether you were black, White, Mexican, Asian,
or whatever, if you weren't bothering anyone. In her estimation,
no one should be bothering you. The two forged through
the profiling, continuing to date, even as it ruffled some
feathers in their respective families and communities.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
In those days, all I've thought of was how great
this was, and you know, we and how much in love.
I was falling in love and first time ever for
that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
In nineteen sixty nine, Rudy and Nancy married. A few
months later they had their first son, Me your Humble Host,
and two years after that, my sister Denise was born.
We were a pretty happy crew. Dad was outgoing, always
wanted to go on excursions. Nancy was shy and perhaps
(08:24):
a bit of a homebody. So the dynamic worked out
for both of them. The young couple hardly had two
nickels to rub together. We first moved to dad's hometown
of Guardina, then bounced around to a series of apartments
in my mom's hometown of Torrents. The two Scrimpton saved
for a couple of years. In those days, it wasn't
unheard of to get into a mortgage with a few
thousand dollars. By nineteen seventy five, they'd saved enough to
(08:47):
start looking to buy a house.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
We had a real estate guide looking for us, and
you know, we were just looking for houses, and.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
Well, we loved at a lot of places.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I honestly, after I thought about it, after years went
by and I really thought about it, and I knew
more about George which was Rudy's friend who was the
real estate guy. He just wanted to sell us a house.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
The realtter was using a technique of that time, and
that was show the client dump after dump after dump.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
And I mean places in Guardena that you you know,
you couldn't have the dog live in.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
It, and then once they saw those, the realtor would
take them to the house that they really wanted to
sell them. The Internet wasn't around at the time, so
you couldn't pop onto Zillo, Trulia or any number of
other real estate sites to get a layout of the land.
So for most people in the midst of this grift,
it was hard to get a handle on what was happening.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
And we told him what we wanted. You know, I
wanted a community with kids. It just was really important
to me that we lived in a community with kids
where you could like play outside. So this guy started
looking and then we found this. We looked at all
these different houses and then we found the Morning Cars
and he brought us to cars and new community new homes.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Carson is a suburb of Los Angeles, just south of
a little known town at the time called Compton.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Lots of kids in that neighborhood, like just there were
kids everywhere, and we were still young enough and everybody
else was still young enough to have children, so you
knew it was an up and coming lots of lots
of culture. You had Samowens, blacks, whites, Asians. It was
the it was perfect. The home was beautiful. It was
(10:42):
only two bedrooms, but you know, had a family room
and a living room and a big kitchen, and it
was again, it was a beautiful neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
It was a new community. The city had only incorporated
a few years earlier, in nineteen sixty eight. The homes
were also relatively new, The yards were well kept. It
looked like a solidly middle class neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
But to me, it was like it was like black,
this utopia of as a young family. You know, here
i am in what my mid twenties or so, and
I'm just thinking this is this is like perfect. It's
the kind of neighborhood I grew up in without the farmland,
but you know, lots of kids, kids riding bikes in
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the you know, in the street, playing ball and all
of this kind of stuff, and we just we fell
in love with the house.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
So Mom and dad brought a few people to come
check it out.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
And before we moved in. You know, my brother in law, Terry,
he came over and he said, don't do it.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
She also brought her dad an oldest brother to the
house and they warned them against buying the house as well.
The neighborhood was about fifty percent black and the smattering
of everything else. Everyone that advised them against moving in
expressed that they were worried that they wouldn't fit in
with the demographics of the area, but having grown a
bit sensitive to the racial profile just a few years earlier,
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Mom was a bit protective over the issue. So any
attempt to dissuade them from living in an ethnically diverse
neighborhood was quickly discarded.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
And it was a lot of it was because it
was a minority neighborhood, but to me, it just did
that should not have mattered. If we're going there, we're
peaceful people, We're not going to bother them. And if
we're nice neighbors and they're nice people and we're nice people,
then what more could you ask for. We wanted something diverse,
(12:44):
we wanted something young with kids in it. They were
the kids We're going to have fun and we were friendly,
you know, people that didn't care what color you were.
So how much more perfect can it be? Because well,
I don't care what color you are. You're not going
to care what color I am.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Right, So mom and Dad purchased the house. It was
a proud day. We took the classic family picture in
front of our new casa. But what the young couple
didn't realize at the time was that this area of
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nineteen seventy five, Nancy and Rudy saved up enough money
(14:28):
to buy a home in Carson, California that they fell
in love with. But what the young couple didn't realize
at the time was that this area of Carson was
going through a major shift. By the second week in
our new home, troubling signs started to show.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I was at work, you guys were at school. Rudy
was at work, and.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
We came home with the police.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
At the house. Someone had broken in.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
He came, he got in the garage. Somehow, I don't
think the garage door access door had no lock on it,
and so he got in that way, but we had
the doors. Everything was locked, and he tried to kick
the door and you could see the feet prints on
the door coming in from the garage, the access door
from the garage. And then he just went around and
go back and just put something through the window and
(15:17):
came in through the window. I can say I was
more pissed off and angry at the mess that they left.
I mean, it looked like they picked up the house
and shook it.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
It was beyond.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Ransacking. It was like, you know, and then took anything
of value. And we didn't have a lot of value.
Everything that we moved into that house was given to
us by somebody else, a family member, or it was
second hand or something. We just had no money. The
bed that we slept in was my mom and dad's bed.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
The thief was brazen. He hit up a few houses
on the block all at once. Someone heard him and
called the cops, and they nabbed the scum as he
was robbing the place across the street. For me was
a coming of age moment. The criminal had a big
black glad trash bag and filled it with whatever he could.
When the police brought the bag into our house. I
locked in on something that has still burned into my
(16:13):
brain today. The bag was tied shut with my red bandana.
The thief used my favorite cowboy bandana to secure his
ill gotten gains. It was the first moment where I
realized that there were people out there that wanted to
take what I had. As troubling as the situation was,
(16:39):
it could have been chalked up to just a fluke.
A bad seed had made his way into the neighborhood.
It was hopefully an anomaly. However, another red flag was
about to go up. A few months after moving in,
our parents threw a housewarming party. They invited friend's family
and the realtter that sold them the house.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
And when he came to the house warming, he was
carrying a gun and he brought it in my our room,
in the master bedroom, and he showed us the gun
for protection, he said. And immediately I thought to myself,
you've sold us a home in a neighborhood that you
feel compelled to arm yourself when you come to visit
(17:19):
us for a housewarming. But again, I'm still so young
and naive. I just I wouldn't let it sink in.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
By the time that we'd moved into the house and Carson,
my mom had been using a babysitter near her work
to watch my sister and I during the day. So
to make sure that I had someone to come home
to after school, Mom arranged for us to use the
babysitter's address to attend an elementary school near her work.
The area was made up of predominantly Hispanics, Blacks, and Asians,
with the sprinkling of whites. It had the feeling of
(17:48):
an elementary school version of Welcome Back Carter, if you
understand that reference. As we settled into our new home
and Carson, over the first few years, houses were going
up for sale throughout the neighborhood. The Samoans, the Asians,
and the whites were putting their houses on the market,
and the properties would be scooped up exclusively by black families.
The process happened in just a few years in now
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on Claven Carson. By the time I'd become old enough
to play outside by myself, roughly seven years old in
the nineteen seventies, we were the only white family in
the neighborhood. Everyone else was black, and I mean everyone
but Honestly, I didn't notice, and neither did my sister.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
That park had a club, big clubhouse there, and they
had a dance modern dance thing, you know, where they
put the makeup on and they had the leotards and
all this kind of stuff. And so they went to
the fair and performed at the Pomona Fair here and
the whole bit. And I remember one time somebody saying
(18:49):
to Denise, I'm going to say she was probably seven
or eight six seven eight something like that, and somebody saying,
are you the only white kid in the performing?
Speaker 6 (19:00):
And she got I don't know, she didn't even think
about it.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I thought, Okay, this is good, this is good, and
she was the only white kid.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
My sister and I had two good friends, a brother
and sister duo named Maurice and Heather Simms. Maurice and
I would play pick up football games on the street
with the neighborhood kids. All the guys would take out
our BMX bikes to a local vacant lot that had
huge hills to drop in and mounds of dirt we'd
use as jumping ramps. On the weekends, Maurice and I
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would run the streets with the neighborhood boys. Denise was
too young to be outside without supervision, but she'd played
with Heather either at our place or at the Sims
house right down the street. For a few years, everything
was relatively normal. We got some looks around town, for sure,
but we were largely left alone. My baby brother, Casey,
was born when I was about nine and a half,
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and around that time the atmosphere oddly began to shift.
An animosity towards our family began to brew. It seemed
like overnight my name went from Patrick to Honky, and
my friends pretty quickly dwindled down to Jess Maurice. A
few years ago, I was having dinner with a prominent
Hollywood TV writer and somehow the topic of the racial
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slur Honky came up. He laughed at how unscary it sounded. Well,
the word takes on a whole new meaning when you're
surrounded by five or six black guys yelling it at you,
I responded. The idea was so foreign to him, he
didn't know how to respond. That's what I was going
through as nineteen eighty arrived, being the only sibling that
was allowed to play outside by myself, I got that
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slur frequently thrown at me. Denise, who just reached the
proper age to start playing outside without constant supervision, began
to feel the heat as well. While skipping rope with
the neighborhood girls, we.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Would do the double dutch, right, that's Denise, and I
was terrible at it, and they didn't like when I
tried to jump in because I would mess it up.
When I would walk up and I would want to play,
and I would only walk up if I was with Heather, heathermember,
Heather and Maurice or like they were our best friends.
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They were they had never saw our color. We didn't
see their color. In as far as I was concerned,
there was no color. So I would only walk up
to these girls if Heather was by my side, and
they would only hand me the ropes. I was only
allowed to, you know, be the spinner of the ropes.
This white girl is not jumping in right now because
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she's terrible. So I would, you know, play jump ropes
with them, and that was the only time they would
just say no. It's because I would say, is it
my turn, and they were like no. They'd always go no, no,
it's not your turn. So I'm like, okay, I'll just
keep spinning the spinning the ropes. I'll just be the
jump rope spinner whatever that was called.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
But that dismissiveness took a harsher turn.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
And there's one time that I remember that I was
going out to the car to get something out of
the car, and across the street as a bunch of
a lot of the neighborhood girls and they start singing
this song to me, black is Beautiful, White is sunky.
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If you don't believe me, ask a white honky. And
they said it really loud, and I thought, oh my gosh,
some of those are my friends that I play, you know,
jump rope with, and they're like pretty much harapping me
right now. So I jumped in the car and I hid.
I ducked down. I didn't even want to run back
in the house. I just got in the car and
(22:40):
just ducked And I've wanted to look again to see
who is in that crowd who is singing this, you know,
obviously racist song to me. And I didn't even know
what a honky was. Nobody had ever called me that before.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
But one confrontation in particular pretty much ended any chance
of playing outside again.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I just remember being really traumatized too after that time
that you were held by knife point.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
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Speaker 1 (23:38):
Welcome back. So the confrontations began to escalate in our
Carson neighborhood, but one encounter in particular pretty much ended
any chance of playing outside again. I think I was
turning about eleven, so I invited my elementary school friends
over for a sleepover birthday party. Everyone wanted to go
to the arcade, which was huge at the time, so
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my mom dropped us off down the street at the
Carson Mall. A bunch of quarters on pack Man, asteroids
and Space Invaders I'm sure. Then went outside to wait
for my mom to pick us up. But as we
were waiting, an older black teenager must have seen us
as easy prey and pulled a knife on me, demanding
we give him money.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I just remember being really traumatized too after that time
that you were held by knife point, because I remember
I was with Mom when we came to pick you
guys up. I was in the car and we were
going to pick you guys up in the front of
the mall, but you guys were waiting in the back,
(24:41):
so there was a miscommunication. And you know, without cell
phones back then, We're sitting there waiting for you guys,
and you guys weren't coming out. And then I remember
us coming or going around the corner, and I just
I remember coming around the corner and the looks on
your faces was just complete fear. And you know, just
after that it was just terrify And then you weren't
(25:04):
allowed to go to the mall anymore.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
From then on, playing outside was pretty much off limits.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
I don't have a lot of memories of playing outside,
you know, we really weren't allowed unless you know, Mom,
you know, maybe was shot outside with us. But I
don't remember really even being allowed to play outside very much.
We would go to Heather's house or she would come
to the house. But I remember the time we you know,
(25:32):
I got a bike and I was so excited to
ride it, and Mom would was always like to stay
right in front of the house. Well, how are you
going to ride your bike? Like right in front of
the house. But remember she would let us ride to
the park if I was to go with you. But
I remember one time my friend Shannon had spent the
night and we begged for her to ride your bike,
and I rode my pink panther bike, and we were
(25:52):
just riding around the front and circles in the street.
And we put the bikes down on the grass and
ran in the house to get a drink of water
and come back out and the bikes were already gone.
That definitely made Mom say, Okay, you guys can't even
you know, I don't even think we got another bike
after that, But we weren't even really allowed to ride
(26:13):
bikes or play outside.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
We were now confined to the house. But things were
getting so bad that even making our way from the
front door to our car created opportunities for confrontation. So
I remember the time when we were outside with the car.
One time, the guy I think he might have been
either a friend at the guy from across.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
The street or what have you, who was very good neighbors. Yeah,
but it was the boy, the friend that was playing
basketball with him that started making the white comments and
the honky comments. And finally came over and spit on
our car. If you remember, of course, yeah, I was shaking,
but yeah, whatever he did. And then he came over
and he and I rolled the window up and he
(26:50):
spit on the window.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I'll never forget that. We couldn't get out of the
car until he was out of sight. The attacks shifted
from verbal to a bit more.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Aggressive then, you know, then the people got bolder as
far as like, you know, we'd have wine bottles thrown
on the porch on the front lawn and beer cans,
and people would yell stuff as they were driving by
laugh and yell and so and then I went out.
(27:34):
One time we had two cars with locks on the
gas caps. They were crazy glued shut. We had to
have somebody come out and pry the gas caps off.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
It became open season. No longer able to get us
in the street, they started to break down the boundary
of our home. That's when the break in started up
again in full force. It'd been years since someone had
broken into the house. But then we came home one
day and our front door was open. We'd been robbed.
(28:05):
Then the next month we came home again, the front
door was open, robbed.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
How many times did that happen? I felt like it
was like a monthly thing there for a while.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
It was happening so often it became hard to keep track.
One ransacking of the house just blended into the next.
If I had to guess, I'd say it was about
twelve or fifteen times over the course of the next
year and a half.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Coming home and your house is torn apart. Your bedroom,
like all of our clothes were just you know, torn
out of the drawers. Remember our mattresses were flipped over.
You know, I remember having like my little twin Star,
little little pencils and stuff. They were just everywhere, and
some of them were broken, they were stepped on, I mean,
(28:47):
are just it looked our house was so ransacked. They were.
And then I remember one time they kicked the dog.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
They had come in and they had kicked the dog,
and you know, the dog was cowering in a corner.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
And Benji was just laying there, couldn't move and was
just whining and crying. And you and I were just
so worried about him that that time. We didn't even
go to our room and look around the house. We
were just like the poor dog was obviously kicked or something,
because he's just been in there whining. That was just
so dramatic for us because it's such a violation.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
It's like you lived in a glasshouse. Then that's after
a while, that's what it was like.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
It was obvious we were being targeted because we didn't
see the police rolling up to any of the neighbors houses,
just ours, the only non blacks in town. After a
few times, the invaders weren't even taking anything anymore. It
was just a complete annihilation of the interior.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
There was nothing to take, and they had because it
was a monthly thing and they saw that. Why did
they continue coming back? What is the point if you're
not finding anything, what is the point? It's harassing. Maybe
they wanted us out of it. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
After a while, with the number of breakings racking up
and no one getting arrested, reporting the robbery to the
police became a big waste of time.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
I mean there was times, We're honest to god, I
didn't even call. We just cleaned it up.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I think me and you just left our room. We
just left it rundsactic. We keep cleaning it up.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yeah, because I remember when ten the cops came by
and said, oh, do they do this your room? Like, No,
that's how the rooms always looks. We just gave up.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
We're done here, we'll do it for you. Yeah, our
jaws are empty. Okay, yes, exactly. Yeah, we're all exposed.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
How does that saying go? If you don't laugh, you'll cry.
I asked my mom for the first time recently why
we didn't move out.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
Rudy did not want to move.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Why he just didn't want to go through the trouble
of doing it all, even with robberies, it just didn't
That kind of stuff just did not phase him. It
was just something that happened, and you know, things like
that didn't bother him.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Something was obviously brewing within my father, something abnormal. His
sister would later tell me that he returned from the
Vietnam War a different man. The experience somehow scarred him.
That may have been part of the issue, but not
all of it. As a father today, I see that
it's the man's job to keep the family safe, and
Dad was failing miserably in that regard.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
He didn't like change. He was not going to move.
I could move if I wanted to, but he was
going to stay there in that house until you know,
everything blew up.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
And everything was about to blow up even further. With
Honky becoming our de facto nickname, it wasn't hard to
tell that we were being targeted because we were white. Thankfully,
all of the breakings occurred during the weekdays when we
weren't home, but it was only a matter of time
before our luck ran out. It was December nineteen eighty two,
just a few days away from Christmas, and I woke
(31:58):
up at that regular time in the morning, but to
my surprise, Mom wasn't there. Ever happened, I mean never ever?
She went to visit at Maryanne was the explanation I
got from my dad. Even as a preteen, I knew
something was off. My dad followed our same weekday ritual.
You dropped my sister, my little brother, and I off
(32:18):
at our babysitters. That morning, my sister and I walked
down to a local park, which was across the street
from our school.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
You asked where do you think Mom was or something.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
And Denise knew, well, Dad was out celebrating his birthday.
A man broke into the house while we were there.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
And I just remember waking up to hearing Mom like
to scream really fast and just like a ugh, you know,
and like she got scared. So I just I don't
sit up or anything. I just open my eyes and
then I see Mom get dragged to her room by
a guy Serrey. Serrey.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Next time on Red Pilled America, when you.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Look at me and you see this Caucasian woman like
minority looked at me and said she would never know
what I've had to go through. But I know, I
know what that feels like to be the minority.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
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