July 30, 2025 • 37 mins
When will America finally overcome the legacy of slavery? In Part Two we conclude the story of a family that faced years of racist attacks, and what they did to overcome them. Special Note: Strong language and content.
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
We looked at all these different houses and then we
found the morning.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Cars previously on Red Pilled America.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
We came home with the police of the house.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Someone had broken in.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Coming home and your house is torn apart.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Well, dad was out celebrating his birthday. A man broke
into the house while we were there.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
They start singing this song to me, Black is beautiful,
White it is funky. If you don't believe me, ask
a white honky.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
What does the black community need to do to finally
overcome the legacy of slavery?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Sir, all to the life, said Savy of Serer.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
This is part two of the Minority. You've probably already
heard part one, But if you haven't, stop and go
back to the beginning and listen to the first of
this two part series. We're searching for the answer to
the question what does the black community need to do
to finally overcome the legacy of slavery. To find the answer,
we're telling the story of a family that had to
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endure years of targeted racism.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Surre surrender, Oh tou the milone said, Savil.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
My surrea, Oh su the my bel said, Savil, Come
serrander a.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
To start where we left off. On one morning in
December nineteen eighty two, just a few days before Christmas,
I woke up and my mom wasn't there. That never happened. Never.
My dad told me that she'd went to visit my
aunt Mary Anne, But even as a preteen, I sensed
something was wrong. So later that morning, while my sister
and I were walking with a group of friends to
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a park across the street from our elementary school, I
asked her where she thought mom went, and that's when
she told me what happened. I've been thinking a lot
about how to tell this story, and perhaps more importantly,
why I'd even want to share such an incredibly personal
and trying time for our family. It can be emotionally
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taxing and make one feel exposed, even vulnerable, as this
story admittedly has at times. I discussed it with Adriana,
my mom and sister, and also dug through some of
my old journals to review some of my thoughts on
this era throughout the years, and what I gathered is,
for as long as I can remember, I've wanted to
tell the story of what our family endured over nearly
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a decade long span of my childhood and Carson. The
first real short story that I ever wrote was in
my ninth grade English class with missus Naison, and the
story I told was about this very phase in my life.
So why since my freshman year in high school have
I felt compelled to talk about our Carson experience. The
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conclusion I came to is that it's a story that
is rarely told. The number of movies about white racism
against blacks seems endless. Mississippi Burning to Kill a Mockingbird,
Hidden Figures, Twelve Years a Slave, The Help Get Out
d Django, Unchained, The Color Purple forty two, The Butler
fruit Vale Station, Driving Miss Daisy Selma, The Birth of
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a Nation, Black Clansman. The list goes on and on
and on, But can you name one movie that addresses
the reverse? Try to come up with a single film
that tackles black racism towards whites in a negative light.
Go ahead and name one, just one. You can't. Why
is that? Why have Hollywood and the mainstream media and
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our literary industry stayed away from that topic? I think
I know the answer, and we'll get to that before
the end of this episode. But I knew from a
very young age that this lived experience was incredibly important
to share because of the powerful lesson that can be
extracted from it, A lesson that our cultural gatekeepers do
not want Americans to contemplate what we lived through in Carson.
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The racial slurs, the property damage, the terrorizing was too
much for any family to endure. But what happened on
that night in December nineteen eighty two was something different,
something even darker. Did this day we only refer to
it with two.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Words, the incident.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
The incident.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
On that night, my dad went out to celebrate his birthday,
leaving my mom's sister, baby brother, and I home alone.
Us kids were asleep when a man broke into the house.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I just remember waking up to hearing Mom like to
scream really fast and just like a ah, you know,
and like she got scared.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
But I just remember him running up behind me and
slamming me from behind, like knocking, almost knocking the wind
out of me. And I'm now off the ground and
I just.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Opened my eyes, and I remember our bunk bed was
like facing the hallway and there was a light on
in the living room, so it lit up the hallway.
And then I see Mom get dragged to her room
by a guy. He had an afro with a hat
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and it wasn't completely sitting on his head very well,
and it was just so surreal for me. I'm like,
am I dreaming?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Is this?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
So I just kind of laid there and I could
just hear her crying, and I just remember laying there
and thinking, just I was terrified. I mean, I just
I was in shock.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
My mom's yelp didn't wake me up, nor my baby brother.
For years, I wished it had. The guilt over that
issue stayed with me well into my adulthood. But as
a father now, knowing the difference and strength between a
man and a pre pubescent boy, well perhaps it was
a good thing that I didn't wake up. I was twelve,
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my sister ten, my brother three. We didn't own a gun.
I was probably in no place to challenge that savage,
at least that's the way I like to think about
it now.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
And that was my biggest fears. I didn't want him
to hurt the kids. And so, you know, then got
into the bedroom. And then we got to the bedroom
and I thought, fuck, this is not gonna happen. I said,
my kids are in the other room. It didn't matter.
My husband's just went to the store. He's going to
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be right back, picks me up, drags me to the
front door, bolts the door, goes back in, and does
his thing, and then left.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
And then I saw him again run out of the
you know, of the hallway, run out of the room.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
And then I could hear him running, so I knew
he wasn't in a car.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I mean, I don't even know how long I lead
there for I have no idea how long whatever the incident,
the incident went on for.
Speaker 7 (08:21):
I just wanted to call up in a ball and
and you know, and in my as a as a
young woman, to me, I was going to fight it off.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
There was nobody ever going to be able to do
that to me, because I was going to fight it off.
I die first. But you know, when then when it's
happening and your kids are in the other room, and
the fear and the paranoia sets in, your body locks,
it locks, and not it can't, you know. And that's
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how I pretty much was when he got home.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
So I'm laying there and and so then Mom gets
up and she's crying, and Dad comes home from wherever.
Speaker 8 (09:06):
And.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
He came to the door and knocked on it and
wondered why I had locked it. And then I told
him what happened.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
And she proceeds to tell him. As she's telling him
about it, she's closing our bedroom door, but she's telling
him what just happened to her, how she was raped,
and she's closing the door. And then I thought, oh
my gosh, this really happened.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Mom was, of course, shook to the core. So she
left that night to stay at my aunt Mary Anne
and uncle Randy's place.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
And so I went there and stayed for a couple
of days. I was not in any shape to be
around the kids or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
The next morning, when I asked my sister about where
she thought Mom was. She told me what happened the
night before, and I was floored.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I know that you were curious. I'm not sure what
they told us why she was gone, but I knew.
And then as we're walking to school, that's when I
told you, I think this is what happened.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Denise hadn't yet told anyone what she saw, so when
Mom returned home a few days later, I let her
know that Denise got a good look at the guy.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Then you told Mom. I didn't want to tell Mom
because I was just it was just so scary, you know.
I didn't want to talk about it anymore. I wanted
to tell you. I wanted you to know. And then
I just I, you know, I just wanted it to
go away because it was just such a scary, horrible experience.
And so I remember you told Mom, and then she
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asked me about it, and I said, yes, I saw,
that's exactly and I told her the exact same story.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
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I told my mom that my sister Denise had seen
the man that attacked her. But what we didn't know
was that law enforcement had known about this monster well
before my mom filed a police report.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
So finally it was a few days later and then
I reported it and went down to the police station.
My friend Suzan went with me, and they had profiles
and everything. By then, I was the thirteenth victim. One
woman had been raped twice. Her husband would go out
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of town for a week or two weeks at a time.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Carson had a sexual predator on its hands. After talking
to all the victims, the police department created a profile
on this Siko. He was a young black man of
average height. Because he ran away on foot, they suspected
he didn't have a car or was local. He also
had a unique characteristic He had Asian looking eyes. I
guess it's in our blood to be proactive, because I
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remember Mom searching for this Siko herself, venturing into uncharged
areas of the neighborhood, and.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
We drove down streets that we'd lived there our whole
childhood for years, and we were driving down streets that
we had never been down. You know, we are starting
to get deep.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
In hindsight, it was understandable she wanted to catch this animal,
and given the experience that we had with police and Carson,
we didn't trust that they'd find the guy. But in parallel,
law enforcement began to hone in on a potential suspect,
a young black man in his early twenties living in
our neighborhood, only a few blocks away from our home.
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Just a couple weeks into the new year, law enforcement
began to stake out his house, carefully watching the property.
At some point they decided it was time to make
a move and bring him in for questioning. But coincidentally,
just as they swarmed the house, his younger brother, an
eighteen year old young black man, was riding up on
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his bike. He had Asian looking eyes. When he saw
the commotion, he thought the police were in fact coming
for him, so he turned around and bolted down the
street on his bike. But the police took chase and
caught him, and once they did, they began drilling down
not on the initial twenty something guy at the residence,
but instead on his eighteen year old brother. It wasn't
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long after the arrest that mom got a call from
my aunt.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Mary Joe called and she said they arrested somebody was
in the Daily Breeze when she read me the article.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
The police eventually called my mom and asked if her
and my sister would come down to try and identify
the SIKO in a police lineup.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Well, I remember, I didn't want to. I was terrified.
I did not know, you know, we didn't have access
to a internet to kind of see what a lineup
is all about. I was so scared to go down
because I had no idea what to expect. You know,
was this guy going to be in the same room
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as us, Is he going to be able to see me?
Is he gonna you know, I had no idea what
to expect. So I was terrified. I just remember I
just couldn't eat that day, and I just did not
want to go. But you know, Mom was just like, you,
you know, do this for me. You know, you're going
to be fine, We're safe, We're going to be at
the police station. We'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
So Mom and de niece went down to the station
with the twelve other women that were attacked.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
All I remember is he was number four. I do
remember the exact it was. You know, everybody stepped forward.
They you know, took turns stepping forward. And then when
he stepped forward, I just said, oh my gosh, it's
number four. It's number four. And so apparently Mom and
I picked out the same guy. I found this out.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Later, but it wasn't over for them yet.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I remember I had to testify in court too, which
was which was terrifying because when they asked me my name,
I I couldn't even say my name. I was so scared.
And you know, because he's fitting right there in court,
He's sitting right across the room from me. You know.
I remember the judge asking me. The judge had me
say my name, and I sat there for a minute
and I'm like, what is my name? Yeah? And so
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then when the prosecutor told me to point him out,
you know, I'm like, okay, can I point to him
without looking? Well, I point at the right person, you know,
just use your peripheral vision and just point without looking
at him, you know, And I had I had to
look at him and point at him, and that was
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just terrifying because after that, like just I don't even
remember any that. I don't remember walking out of the court.
I don't remember anything I said.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
After that, but Mom remembers what. The prosecutor asked my sister.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Well, what do you recognize about him? And she goes, well,
he had like Chinese eyes, and prosecutor was Chinese or
Asian something, which that kind of like cracked everybody up
and stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
And I just wanted to get out of there. I
wanted to all to be over. I was so bothered
that I had to you know that I witnessed this.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
The man was convicted and was sentenced for a little
over a decade in prison, which seems like a paltry
amount for a clearly incurable, sick young man. Does anyone
think that someone capable of viciously raping thirteen women can
ever be rehabilitated. After the incident and through the trial,
the status quo remained. We were still prisoners in our
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own home, largely unable to go outside other than to
get in our car and leave. Everyone wanted to move,
that is, everyone except my father.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
He didn't want to move. He wanted to stay, period.
That was all there was to it.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Weeks turned into months until Dad slipped right back into
his old ways, frequently leaving us home alone at night.
As desperately as my mom tried to keep the family together,
this couldn't go on any longer. Something had taken hold
of our father. His childhood traumas caught up with him
and sparked the beginnings of a very long, dark journey
with addiction. My mom had had enough. She kicked him
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out of the house and immediately put it up for sale.
Mom began looking to move us back to her hometown.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
I remember going house hunting in Torrance and just being
so excited.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
One of the houses that we looked at was a
cute three bedroom in North Torrance. The backyard had a
playhouse with carpet and a working light. It was modest,
but larger than our Carson home, and compared to what
we'd endured for nearly a decade, it was a little
slice of heaven. So Mom bought the place. I remember
our uncle Pat coming over and helping us pack up
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and move out of the Carson house. Others joined in
as well. It was sad that we were leaving our
friends Heather and Maurice behind, really the only bright spot
of that neighborhood, but we were all ready to put
that place behind us forever.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
And I just remember just saying to myself, I'm never
going back there again.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
The day that we moved into our new Torrents home
was incredible. The feeling of freedom was indescribable.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
It was just it was a dream. It was just
it was just a glorious dream. It was just such
a glorious day. The Lord was I happy that that
day came and we were able to go to a
school that we could walk to, and we could play
outside and we didn't even really have a curfew on
the weekend. I mean, we mom still wanted us before
it got dark, wanted us home before it got dark,
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but we were actually able to ride our bikes up
the street. We could leave our bikes in the driveway
and them not be stolen, and thirty seconds while we
went and got some water, and now it was I
just remember it being being glorious and just so happy
to get out of there and just you know, have
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a normal life like my friends did when I would
go to my friend's house and go play outside.
Speaker 9 (20:24):
Yeah, it was amazing. It was such that that feeling
was just like it was incredible. I just and I
remember getting on my bike and riding around town. I
remember I rode over to that I think is it
called Hamilton, the baseball.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Field and the church.
Speaker 9 (20:41):
Over there, and I rode in that parking lot over
there by the church, and I just remember feeling like God,
I felt free.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Yeah. Yeah, Like I said, we could have a normal childhood.
We can ride around on our bikes, and we can
walk around. And there was cork liquor right there that
we'd go get candy and you know, and we didn't
have to walk, you know, in groups and worry about
you know, all that, and have moms stand there at
the front door and watch us wherever we walked, you know.
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So it was just a glorious day.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
As incredible as it was for Denise, Casey and I,
it was a struggle for mom. She was now going
it alone with a mortgage payment triple what it was
in Carson.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
So you talk about poor, how are you able to
afford that? I worked every single minute I could. I
did the crafting jobs, I did all of that kind
of stuff to bring in that extra money and it
helped a lot babysat. I did everything I could to
make money. We drove old cars, we ate cheap. We
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never took any vacations except camping. Think about it. Never.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
As the years went by, we had our struggles, including
with our father, but we weren't under siege like in Carson.
Torrence was ethnically diverse, Hispanics, Japanese, Koreans, Filipinos, Hawaiians, whites
and blacks. That's what made up our group of friends.
Mom always instilled in us the idea that our experience
in Carson did not represent the Black community as a whole.
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Even with the brutality of the situation, prejudice never took
hold of her or her kid's souls. I asked Mom
recently about how we were able to avoid building any
racial animosity after our experience in Carson. What I'm trying
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to get to is that I never felt any animosity
black people, right, I just didn't know. I didn't either,
And I don't know how that we were able to
avoid that.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I think because you had enough good people in your life,
and good Black people in your life, and good minorities
and good majorities, and you know a mix mixture of
cultures that going to school in Guardena, you had all
the mixture of cultures there. And I think that we
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compartmentalized that as incidences, not as black on white, but
as something that happened when we lived in this neighborhood
that was not a good neighborhood. It wasn't so much
that it was a black neighborhood, it was just not
a good neighborhood to be in.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Mom continued to teach us to stay connected to the
black community. Unlike most non black families, in many ways,
black culture was our culture. In our formative years. We
lived in an all black neighborhood, taking in the music,
the attitude, the culture. Even though over time we were
shunned by the neighborhood, we understood the black experience personally.
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Throughout the years, people have told me oddly that they
thought I was black. One black man that I met
even said that he sensed quote a hint of tint
in me. Carson was in the mire, but it wasn't
totally on a site. However, one event in particular seemed
to bring our entire Carson experience to a close.
Speaker 10 (24:11):
Majority in the Rodney King case has delivered its verdict,
and not one of the four police officers seen on
videotape beating mister King a year ago is guilty of
using excessive force. They've all been found not guilty.
Speaker 11 (24:23):
Chief Gates has put aside a million dollar fund to
pay for overtime for one thousand police officers who have
been placed on alert following this verdict.
Speaker 10 (24:30):
Peter Shude, you know you said pretty well the fact
that those police officers have been put on alert anticipates
a reaction to a not guilty verdict.
Speaker 11 (24:38):
I don't think there's much doubt that there's going to
be quite a reaction. I think this was a stunning verdict.
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Speaker 1 (25:58):
Welcome back. So Carson was in the rearview mirror, but
it wasn't totally a site. However, one event in particular
seemed to bring our entire Carson experience to a close.
Speaker 13 (26:10):
The violence erupted after the acquittal of four white policemen
in the beating trial of black motorists Rodney King. There's
been looting, buildings have been set ablaze, and some motorists
have been dragged from their cars and beaten. So far,
nine people are reported dead, scores of others have been injured,
and Governor Pete Wilson has declared a state of emergency.
Today Thursday, April the thirtieth.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
The La riots hit in nineteen ninety two. It was
a surreal time. You have to have lived in Los
Angeles to truly understand it, but the week that followed
gave a quick glimpse at how quickly society can break
down into complete chaos. With the dust barely settled, Mom
wanted to do her part to help the black community.
But a week after the tragic events, it was Mother's Day.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
We were like, where you want to go? And she
wanted to go to South Central.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I would have to go through the air that had
been burnt for my job, so I knew of an
ame church there, and then I also knew, you know,
people from work that were familiar with that area. I
felt comfortable because I had to drive through those neighborhoods
to work. I knew where you had to be careful,
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you know, and I knew you don't go down an
alley unless you have to, or those kind of things.
But it didn't I felt very comfortable in the neighborhoods
as a general rule, driving up and down the streets
and stuff like that. I didn't feel uncomfortable doing that.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
And having lived in Carson for all those years, it
prepares you a bit for tough neighborhoods.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
And uh, we just decided to take the money that
we would have spent on a mother's day anything that
we would have done on Mother's Day and go and buy,
you know, stuff and donate groceries and stuff like that.
So we went to the market and everybody spent what
they were going and to spend on Mother's Day in the.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Store, and we bagged it all up and headed for
the church Mom identified in South Central and.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
So we took food to them.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
But when we arrived there was a bit of unease.
The organizers at the church had a hint of concern
for us in their eyes.
Speaker 9 (28:18):
I just remember them being nervous when we well, they
were like.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
They were unexpecting us. They weren't expecting us. It was like,
what are you doing here? Yeah, and it was like, okay,
milk goes over there, and all the cann good goats
over there, and then okay, you know, and they just
it was like it was not a safe environment.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
They were obviously concerned for our safety. But all in all,
it was an unforgettable experience and.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
It just felt so good. It didn't it feel like, wow,
you know, this is something we should do all the time,
and not just for a Mother's Day gift, because it
just felt so good to help people.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
It was incredibly rewarding. For some reason, it felt like
through that moment of giving back on Mother's Day, we
were officially forgiving Carson for what that neighborhood did to us.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
But you would think after something so dramatic like that
that happens to mom, you would think that, you know,
maybe sometimes people end up being you know, a little
racist after that, or you know, harboring some serious bad feelings.
And you know, she didn't. We went to the root
of it. We went to the heart of South Central
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there and I mean, we were all exposed and we
and it was just a wonderful, wonderful experience.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Which brings us back to the question what does the
black community need to do to finally overcome the legacy
of slavery. Throughout my life, I've often thought back to
our time in Carson and wondered why my name went
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so abrupt plea from Patrick to Honky with all the
neighborhood kids and the moment. I just didn't understand it.
At my elementary school, no one ever called me that,
and I'd say roughly about twenty five percent of the
student body was black. But for some reason, just one
city over amongst kids i'd known and played with for years,
my name became a racial slur. Then about ten years ago,
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Adrianna and I began touring elementary schools to send our
daughter to, and at one school we dropped into a
second grade class as part of the tour. I was
immediately struck by what they were being taught. They were
learning about the water fountain for quote, the colored people.
Why in the hell are they teaching kids about this
at such a young age. I thought it brought me
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back to a time in my elementary school years when
we two were taught about racism. In nineteen seventy seven,
the miniseries Roots aired. Although it claimed to be a
true story at the time, it was later discovered to
be a fixtion story about the journey of Kunta Kinte,
a man who is enslaved in Africa and brought to America.
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The series was a brutal and graphic depiction of slavery
and debuted at a time when a popular TV show
was watched by literally everyone. Many teachers began using the
show as part of their lesson plans in elementary schools,
including in one of my classes. There may have been
some other effects, but I don't recall it creating any
racial animosity on campus at the time, likely because we
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were an ethnically diverse school. Everyone had relationships with people
from other races. It felt like we were all in
the same playing field. But in an all black neighborhood
like Carson. I could see how watching Roots could have
a completely different effect. You may remember us talking to
YouTube stars Diamond and Silk a while ago, and they
brought up this same lesson plan.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
Okay, so I may not have paid attention to school,
but this is what they would do. They will play
this show called Roots.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
That's Diamond.
Speaker 8 (32:00):
They will play that shows how you learned the history
of what was going on nowhere. It's really the truth
and all that kind of stuff will outrage people. But
what they did not do is they did not tell
us who saw black people into slavery, because really there
was other Africans that had solved the Africans into slavery.
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Like they didn't give you the details. They took a
story and sensationalized it, right, and that's how you loved it.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Sup remembers the lesson as well, and the more.
Speaker 14 (32:32):
That they continue to play that story roof over and
over and over and more more stories like that what
it did, it kept you stuck in the pain of
your ancestors. You begin to believe that that's you, and
that's happening to me and my people right now, even
though you've never picked cotton a day in your life,
even though you was never a slaves under any slave
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master a day in your life. And that's being implemented
in the new generation that they feel like, Oh, I'm
so in pain. I've been whipped with many strikes, and
the white man is the one that's out to get me.
That's taught mentality.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
I'd eventually come to the conclusion that slavery and the
civil rights movement should not be taught to students until
well after their elementary school years, because young minds simply
aren't prepared to process that information without extreme negative effects
on them and society as a whole. I believe it's
a part of the reason why we have the racial
divisions that exist today. Racism is seated in us. We're
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taught it, and our so called leaders just use it
to inflame the masses to retain or regain power.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
It is a.
Speaker 15 (33:46):
Bestass loving time this.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
So I'd like to give some friendly advice to my
Black American brothers and sisters out there. I'd like to
humbly tell you that to overcome the ugly legacy of slavery,
you need to forgive those few dead Americans that actually
own slaves. Forgive them and move on. Don't fall into
the trap of victimhood created by Hollywood, the media, and
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our educational system. Our family was directly attacked for many
years by black people within our community because of the
color of our skin. We were attacked, not our ancestors,
not our grandfather's grandfather's grandparents. We were attacked, and yet
we never held the entire black community responsible for what
we endured, as our cultural elites want you to do
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against white Americans for slavery that you never endured. We
could have easily let the victimhood mentality infect our soul.
We could have blamed an entire group. We could have
conflated the vicious attack against our mother with all the
other neighborhood attacks on our family. Even though the black
man didn't attack our mom because she was white. He
attacked her because he was a monster. But we could
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have used that as a crutch. We could have let
the racism that we endured stain our view of the world.
But we didn't we let go of the terrorizing and
the pain and the anger and the fear and chalked
it up to just a series of bad apples. To
my brothers and sisters out there, many of us Hispanics
and Whites and Asians also know what it's like to
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be the minority.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
When you look at me and you see this Caucasian woman,
a minority looked at me and said she would never
know what I've had to go through. But I know,
I know what that feels like to be the minority.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
It's time to let go of the pain of your
ancestors because holding on to that ugly history only allows
opportunists to exploit that pain seated in you at a
very young age, and they'll continue to use it not
to help you in your everyday life. They'll use it
for their own personal gain.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
I'm believe it's time to start the national full blown
conversation about reparations.
Speaker 12 (36:08):
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Speaker 4 (36:31):
In fair on me.
Speaker 15 (36:34):
Without men, jeerful, then bound lit, drawing out my hearty
who is a will not remember, who can see to
sing his pay, he can urb forgotson throughout head eternal way.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
How many moms
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
We looked at all these different houses and then we
found the morning.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Cars previously on Red Pilled America.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
We came home with the police of the house.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Someone had broken in.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Coming home and your house is torn apart.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Well, dad was out celebrating his birthday. A man broke
into the house while we were there.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
They start singing this song to me, Black is beautiful,
White it is funky. If you don't believe me, ask
a white honky.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
What does the black community need to do to finally
overcome the legacy of slavery?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Sir, all to the life, said Savy of Serer.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
This is part two of the Minority. You've probably already
heard part one, But if you haven't, stop and go
back to the beginning and listen to the first of
this two part series. We're searching for the answer to
the question what does the black community need to do
to finally overcome the legacy of slavery. To find the answer,
we're telling the story of a family that had to
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endure years of targeted racism.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Surre surrender, Oh tou the milone said, Savil.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
My surrea, Oh su the my bel said, Savil, Come
serrander a.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
To start where we left off. On one morning in
December nineteen eighty two, just a few days before Christmas,
I woke up and my mom wasn't there. That never happened. Never.
My dad told me that she'd went to visit my
aunt Mary Anne, But even as a preteen, I sensed
something was wrong. So later that morning, while my sister
and I were walking with a group of friends to
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a park across the street from our elementary school, I
asked her where she thought mom went, and that's when
she told me what happened. I've been thinking a lot
about how to tell this story, and perhaps more importantly,
why I'd even want to share such an incredibly personal
and trying time for our family. It can be emotionally
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taxing and make one feel exposed, even vulnerable, as this
story admittedly has at times. I discussed it with Adriana,
my mom and sister, and also dug through some of
my old journals to review some of my thoughts on
this era throughout the years, and what I gathered is,
for as long as I can remember, I've wanted to
tell the story of what our family endured over nearly
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a decade long span of my childhood and Carson. The
first real short story that I ever wrote was in
my ninth grade English class with missus Naison, and the
story I told was about this very phase in my life.
So why since my freshman year in high school have
I felt compelled to talk about our Carson experience. The
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conclusion I came to is that it's a story that
is rarely told. The number of movies about white racism
against blacks seems endless. Mississippi Burning to Kill a Mockingbird,
Hidden Figures, Twelve Years a Slave, The Help Get Out
d Django, Unchained, The Color Purple forty two, The Butler
fruit Vale Station, Driving Miss Daisy Selma, The Birth of
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a Nation, Black Clansman. The list goes on and on
and on, But can you name one movie that addresses
the reverse? Try to come up with a single film
that tackles black racism towards whites in a negative light.
Go ahead and name one, just one. You can't. Why
is that? Why have Hollywood and the mainstream media and
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our literary industry stayed away from that topic? I think
I know the answer, and we'll get to that before
the end of this episode. But I knew from a
very young age that this lived experience was incredibly important
to share because of the powerful lesson that can be
extracted from it, A lesson that our cultural gatekeepers do
not want Americans to contemplate what we lived through in Carson.
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The racial slurs, the property damage, the terrorizing was too
much for any family to endure. But what happened on
that night in December nineteen eighty two was something different,
something even darker. Did this day we only refer to
it with two.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Words, the incident.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
The incident.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
On that night, my dad went out to celebrate his birthday,
leaving my mom's sister, baby brother, and I home alone.
Us kids were asleep when a man broke into the house.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I just remember waking up to hearing Mom like to
scream really fast and just like a ah, you know,
and like she got scared.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
But I just remember him running up behind me and
slamming me from behind, like knocking, almost knocking the wind
out of me. And I'm now off the ground and
I just.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Opened my eyes, and I remember our bunk bed was
like facing the hallway and there was a light on
in the living room, so it lit up the hallway.
And then I see Mom get dragged to her room
by a guy. He had an afro with a hat
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and it wasn't completely sitting on his head very well,
and it was just so surreal for me. I'm like,
am I dreaming?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Is this?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
So I just kind of laid there and I could
just hear her crying, and I just remember laying there
and thinking, just I was terrified. I mean, I just
I was in shock.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
My mom's yelp didn't wake me up, nor my baby brother.
For years, I wished it had. The guilt over that
issue stayed with me well into my adulthood. But as
a father now, knowing the difference and strength between a
man and a pre pubescent boy, well perhaps it was
a good thing that I didn't wake up. I was twelve,
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my sister ten, my brother three. We didn't own a gun.
I was probably in no place to challenge that savage,
at least that's the way I like to think about
it now.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
And that was my biggest fears. I didn't want him
to hurt the kids. And so, you know, then got
into the bedroom. And then we got to the bedroom
and I thought, fuck, this is not gonna happen. I said,
my kids are in the other room. It didn't matter.
My husband's just went to the store. He's going to
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be right back, picks me up, drags me to the
front door, bolts the door, goes back in, and does
his thing, and then left.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
And then I saw him again run out of the
you know, of the hallway, run out of the room.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
And then I could hear him running, so I knew
he wasn't in a car.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I mean, I don't even know how long I lead
there for I have no idea how long whatever the incident,
the incident went on for.
Speaker 7 (08:21):
I just wanted to call up in a ball and
and you know, and in my as a as a
young woman, to me, I was going to fight it off.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
There was nobody ever going to be able to do
that to me, because I was going to fight it off.
I die first. But you know, when then when it's
happening and your kids are in the other room, and
the fear and the paranoia sets in, your body locks,
it locks, and not it can't, you know. And that's
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how I pretty much was when he got home.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
So I'm laying there and and so then Mom gets
up and she's crying, and Dad comes home from wherever.
Speaker 8 (09:06):
And.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
He came to the door and knocked on it and
wondered why I had locked it. And then I told
him what happened.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
And she proceeds to tell him. As she's telling him
about it, she's closing our bedroom door, but she's telling
him what just happened to her, how she was raped,
and she's closing the door. And then I thought, oh
my gosh, this really happened.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Mom was, of course, shook to the core. So she
left that night to stay at my aunt Mary Anne
and uncle Randy's place.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
And so I went there and stayed for a couple
of days. I was not in any shape to be
around the kids or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
The next morning, when I asked my sister about where
she thought Mom was. She told me what happened the
night before, and I was floored.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I know that you were curious. I'm not sure what
they told us why she was gone, but I knew.
And then as we're walking to school, that's when I
told you, I think this is what happened.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Denise hadn't yet told anyone what she saw, so when
Mom returned home a few days later, I let her
know that Denise got a good look at the guy.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Then you told Mom. I didn't want to tell Mom
because I was just it was just so scary, you know.
I didn't want to talk about it anymore. I wanted
to tell you. I wanted you to know. And then
I just I, you know, I just wanted it to
go away because it was just such a scary, horrible experience.
And so I remember you told Mom, and then she
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asked me about it, and I said, yes, I saw,
that's exactly and I told her the exact same story.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
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that law enforcement had already known about this monster well
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I told my mom that my sister Denise had seen
the man that attacked her. But what we didn't know
was that law enforcement had known about this monster well
before my mom filed a police report.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
So finally it was a few days later and then
I reported it and went down to the police station.
My friend Suzan went with me, and they had profiles
and everything. By then, I was the thirteenth victim. One
woman had been raped twice. Her husband would go out
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of town for a week or two weeks at a time.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Carson had a sexual predator on its hands. After talking
to all the victims, the police department created a profile
on this Siko. He was a young black man of
average height. Because he ran away on foot, they suspected
he didn't have a car or was local. He also
had a unique characteristic He had Asian looking eyes. I
guess it's in our blood to be proactive, because I
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remember Mom searching for this Siko herself, venturing into uncharged
areas of the neighborhood, and.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
We drove down streets that we'd lived there our whole
childhood for years, and we were driving down streets that
we had never been down. You know, we are starting
to get deep.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
In hindsight, it was understandable she wanted to catch this animal,
and given the experience that we had with police and Carson,
we didn't trust that they'd find the guy. But in parallel,
law enforcement began to hone in on a potential suspect,
a young black man in his early twenties living in
our neighborhood, only a few blocks away from our home.
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Just a couple weeks into the new year, law enforcement
began to stake out his house, carefully watching the property.
At some point they decided it was time to make
a move and bring him in for questioning. But coincidentally,
just as they swarmed the house, his younger brother, an
eighteen year old young black man, was riding up on
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his bike. He had Asian looking eyes. When he saw
the commotion, he thought the police were in fact coming
for him, so he turned around and bolted down the
street on his bike. But the police took chase and
caught him, and once they did, they began drilling down
not on the initial twenty something guy at the residence,
but instead on his eighteen year old brother. It wasn't
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long after the arrest that mom got a call from
my aunt.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Mary Joe called and she said they arrested somebody was
in the Daily Breeze when she read me the article.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
The police eventually called my mom and asked if her
and my sister would come down to try and identify
the SIKO in a police lineup.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Well, I remember, I didn't want to. I was terrified.
I did not know, you know, we didn't have access
to a internet to kind of see what a lineup
is all about. I was so scared to go down
because I had no idea what to expect. You know,
was this guy going to be in the same room
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as us, Is he going to be able to see me?
Is he gonna you know, I had no idea what
to expect. So I was terrified. I just remember I
just couldn't eat that day, and I just did not
want to go. But you know, Mom was just like, you,
you know, do this for me. You know, you're going
to be fine, We're safe, We're going to be at
the police station. We'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
So Mom and de niece went down to the station
with the twelve other women that were attacked.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
All I remember is he was number four. I do
remember the exact it was. You know, everybody stepped forward.
They you know, took turns stepping forward. And then when
he stepped forward, I just said, oh my gosh, it's
number four. It's number four. And so apparently Mom and
I picked out the same guy. I found this out.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Later, but it wasn't over for them yet.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I remember I had to testify in court too, which
was which was terrifying because when they asked me my name,
I I couldn't even say my name. I was so scared.
And you know, because he's fitting right there in court,
He's sitting right across the room from me. You know.
I remember the judge asking me. The judge had me
say my name, and I sat there for a minute
and I'm like, what is my name? Yeah? And so
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then when the prosecutor told me to point him out,
you know, I'm like, okay, can I point to him
without looking? Well, I point at the right person, you know,
just use your peripheral vision and just point without looking
at him, you know, And I had I had to
look at him and point at him, and that was
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just terrifying because after that, like just I don't even
remember any that. I don't remember walking out of the court.
I don't remember anything I said.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
After that, but Mom remembers what. The prosecutor asked my sister.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Well, what do you recognize about him? And she goes, well,
he had like Chinese eyes, and prosecutor was Chinese or
Asian something, which that kind of like cracked everybody up
and stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
And I just wanted to get out of there. I
wanted to all to be over. I was so bothered
that I had to you know that I witnessed this.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
The man was convicted and was sentenced for a little
over a decade in prison, which seems like a paltry
amount for a clearly incurable, sick young man. Does anyone
think that someone capable of viciously raping thirteen women can
ever be rehabilitated. After the incident and through the trial,
the status quo remained. We were still prisoners in our
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own home, largely unable to go outside other than to
get in our car and leave. Everyone wanted to move,
that is, everyone except my father.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
He didn't want to move. He wanted to stay, period.
That was all there was to it.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Weeks turned into months until Dad slipped right back into
his old ways, frequently leaving us home alone at night.
As desperately as my mom tried to keep the family together,
this couldn't go on any longer. Something had taken hold
of our father. His childhood traumas caught up with him
and sparked the beginnings of a very long, dark journey
with addiction. My mom had had enough. She kicked him
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out of the house and immediately put it up for sale.
Mom began looking to move us back to her hometown.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
I remember going house hunting in Torrance and just being
so excited.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
One of the houses that we looked at was a
cute three bedroom in North Torrance. The backyard had a
playhouse with carpet and a working light. It was modest,
but larger than our Carson home, and compared to what
we'd endured for nearly a decade, it was a little
slice of heaven. So Mom bought the place. I remember
our uncle Pat coming over and helping us pack up
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and move out of the Carson house. Others joined in
as well. It was sad that we were leaving our
friends Heather and Maurice behind, really the only bright spot
of that neighborhood, but we were all ready to put
that place behind us forever.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
And I just remember just saying to myself, I'm never
going back there again.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
The day that we moved into our new Torrents home
was incredible. The feeling of freedom was indescribable.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
It was just it was a dream. It was just
it was just a glorious dream. It was just such
a glorious day. The Lord was I happy that that
day came and we were able to go to a
school that we could walk to, and we could play
outside and we didn't even really have a curfew on
the weekend. I mean, we mom still wanted us before
it got dark, wanted us home before it got dark,
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but we were actually able to ride our bikes up
the street. We could leave our bikes in the driveway
and them not be stolen, and thirty seconds while we
went and got some water, and now it was I
just remember it being being glorious and just so happy
to get out of there and just you know, have
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a normal life like my friends did when I would
go to my friend's house and go play outside.
Speaker 9 (20:24):
Yeah, it was amazing. It was such that that feeling
was just like it was incredible. I just and I
remember getting on my bike and riding around town. I
remember I rode over to that I think is it
called Hamilton, the baseball.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Field and the church.
Speaker 9 (20:41):
Over there, and I rode in that parking lot over
there by the church, and I just remember feeling like God,
I felt free.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Yeah. Yeah, Like I said, we could have a normal childhood.
We can ride around on our bikes, and we can
walk around. And there was cork liquor right there that
we'd go get candy and you know, and we didn't
have to walk, you know, in groups and worry about
you know, all that, and have moms stand there at
the front door and watch us wherever we walked, you know.
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So it was just a glorious day.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
As incredible as it was for Denise, Casey and I,
it was a struggle for mom. She was now going
it alone with a mortgage payment triple what it was
in Carson.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
So you talk about poor, how are you able to
afford that? I worked every single minute I could. I
did the crafting jobs, I did all of that kind
of stuff to bring in that extra money and it
helped a lot babysat. I did everything I could to
make money. We drove old cars, we ate cheap. We
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never took any vacations except camping. Think about it. Never.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
As the years went by, we had our struggles, including
with our father, but we weren't under siege like in Carson.
Torrence was ethnically diverse, Hispanics, Japanese, Koreans, Filipinos, Hawaiians, whites
and blacks. That's what made up our group of friends.
Mom always instilled in us the idea that our experience
in Carson did not represent the Black community as a whole.
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Even with the brutality of the situation, prejudice never took
hold of her or her kid's souls. I asked Mom
recently about how we were able to avoid building any
racial animosity after our experience in Carson. What I'm trying
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to get to is that I never felt any animosity
black people, right, I just didn't know. I didn't either,
And I don't know how that we were able to
avoid that.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I think because you had enough good people in your life,
and good Black people in your life, and good minorities
and good majorities, and you know a mix mixture of
cultures that going to school in Guardena, you had all
the mixture of cultures there. And I think that we
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compartmentalized that as incidences, not as black on white, but
as something that happened when we lived in this neighborhood
that was not a good neighborhood. It wasn't so much
that it was a black neighborhood, it was just not
a good neighborhood to be in.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Mom continued to teach us to stay connected to the
black community. Unlike most non black families, in many ways,
black culture was our culture. In our formative years. We
lived in an all black neighborhood, taking in the music,
the attitude, the culture. Even though over time we were
shunned by the neighborhood, we understood the black experience personally.
(23:52):
Throughout the years, people have told me oddly that they
thought I was black. One black man that I met
even said that he sensed quote a hint of tint
in me. Carson was in the mire, but it wasn't
totally on a site. However, one event in particular seemed
to bring our entire Carson experience to a close.
Speaker 10 (24:11):
Majority in the Rodney King case has delivered its verdict,
and not one of the four police officers seen on
videotape beating mister King a year ago is guilty of
using excessive force. They've all been found not guilty.
Speaker 11 (24:23):
Chief Gates has put aside a million dollar fund to
pay for overtime for one thousand police officers who have
been placed on alert following this verdict.
Speaker 10 (24:30):
Peter Shude, you know you said pretty well the fact
that those police officers have been put on alert anticipates
a reaction to a not guilty verdict.
Speaker 11 (24:38):
I don't think there's much doubt that there's going to
be quite a reaction. I think this was a stunning verdict.
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Speaker 1 (25:58):
Welcome back. So Carson was in the rearview mirror, but
it wasn't totally a site. However, one event in particular
seemed to bring our entire Carson experience to a close.
Speaker 13 (26:10):
The violence erupted after the acquittal of four white policemen
in the beating trial of black motorists Rodney King. There's
been looting, buildings have been set ablaze, and some motorists
have been dragged from their cars and beaten. So far,
nine people are reported dead, scores of others have been injured,
and Governor Pete Wilson has declared a state of emergency.
Today Thursday, April the thirtieth.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
The La riots hit in nineteen ninety two. It was
a surreal time. You have to have lived in Los
Angeles to truly understand it, but the week that followed
gave a quick glimpse at how quickly society can break
down into complete chaos. With the dust barely settled, Mom
wanted to do her part to help the black community.
But a week after the tragic events, it was Mother's Day.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
We were like, where you want to go? And she
wanted to go to South Central.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I would have to go through the air that had
been burnt for my job, so I knew of an
ame church there, and then I also knew, you know,
people from work that were familiar with that area. I
felt comfortable because I had to drive through those neighborhoods
to work. I knew where you had to be careful,
(27:23):
you know, and I knew you don't go down an
alley unless you have to, or those kind of things.
But it didn't I felt very comfortable in the neighborhoods
as a general rule, driving up and down the streets
and stuff like that. I didn't feel uncomfortable doing that.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
And having lived in Carson for all those years, it
prepares you a bit for tough neighborhoods.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
And uh, we just decided to take the money that
we would have spent on a mother's day anything that
we would have done on Mother's Day and go and buy,
you know, stuff and donate groceries and stuff like that.
So we went to the market and everybody spent what
they were going and to spend on Mother's Day in the.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Store, and we bagged it all up and headed for
the church Mom identified in South Central and.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
So we took food to them.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
But when we arrived there was a bit of unease.
The organizers at the church had a hint of concern
for us in their eyes.
Speaker 9 (28:18):
I just remember them being nervous when we well, they
were like.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
They were unexpecting us. They weren't expecting us. It was like,
what are you doing here? Yeah, and it was like, okay,
milk goes over there, and all the cann good goats
over there, and then okay, you know, and they just
it was like it was not a safe environment.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
They were obviously concerned for our safety. But all in all,
it was an unforgettable experience and.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
It just felt so good. It didn't it feel like, wow,
you know, this is something we should do all the time,
and not just for a Mother's Day gift, because it
just felt so good to help people.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
It was incredibly rewarding. For some reason, it felt like
through that moment of giving back on Mother's Day, we
were officially forgiving Carson for what that neighborhood did to us.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
But you would think after something so dramatic like that
that happens to mom, you would think that, you know,
maybe sometimes people end up being you know, a little
racist after that, or you know, harboring some serious bad feelings.
And you know, she didn't. We went to the root
of it. We went to the heart of South Central
(29:27):
there and I mean, we were all exposed and we
and it was just a wonderful, wonderful experience.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Which brings us back to the question what does the
black community need to do to finally overcome the legacy
of slavery. Throughout my life, I've often thought back to
our time in Carson and wondered why my name went
(30:02):
so abrupt plea from Patrick to Honky with all the
neighborhood kids and the moment. I just didn't understand it.
At my elementary school, no one ever called me that,
and I'd say roughly about twenty five percent of the
student body was black. But for some reason, just one
city over amongst kids i'd known and played with for years,
my name became a racial slur. Then about ten years ago,
(30:26):
Adrianna and I began touring elementary schools to send our
daughter to, and at one school we dropped into a
second grade class as part of the tour. I was
immediately struck by what they were being taught. They were
learning about the water fountain for quote, the colored people.
Why in the hell are they teaching kids about this
at such a young age. I thought it brought me
(30:49):
back to a time in my elementary school years when
we two were taught about racism. In nineteen seventy seven,
the miniseries Roots aired. Although it claimed to be a
true story at the time, it was later discovered to
be a fixtion story about the journey of Kunta Kinte,
a man who is enslaved in Africa and brought to America.
(31:09):
The series was a brutal and graphic depiction of slavery
and debuted at a time when a popular TV show
was watched by literally everyone. Many teachers began using the
show as part of their lesson plans in elementary schools,
including in one of my classes. There may have been
some other effects, but I don't recall it creating any
racial animosity on campus at the time, likely because we
(31:31):
were an ethnically diverse school. Everyone had relationships with people
from other races. It felt like we were all in
the same playing field. But in an all black neighborhood
like Carson. I could see how watching Roots could have
a completely different effect. You may remember us talking to
YouTube stars Diamond and Silk a while ago, and they
brought up this same lesson plan.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
Okay, so I may not have paid attention to school,
but this is what they would do. They will play
this show called Roots.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
That's Diamond.
Speaker 8 (32:00):
They will play that shows how you learned the history
of what was going on nowhere. It's really the truth
and all that kind of stuff will outrage people. But
what they did not do is they did not tell
us who saw black people into slavery, because really there
was other Africans that had solved the Africans into slavery.
(32:21):
Like they didn't give you the details. They took a
story and sensationalized it, right, and that's how you loved it.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Sup remembers the lesson as well, and the more.
Speaker 14 (32:32):
That they continue to play that story roof over and
over and over and more more stories like that what
it did, it kept you stuck in the pain of
your ancestors. You begin to believe that that's you, and
that's happening to me and my people right now, even
though you've never picked cotton a day in your life,
even though you was never a slaves under any slave
(32:57):
master a day in your life. And that's being implemented
in the new generation that they feel like, Oh, I'm
so in pain. I've been whipped with many strikes, and
the white man is the one that's out to get me.
That's taught mentality.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
I'd eventually come to the conclusion that slavery and the
civil rights movement should not be taught to students until
well after their elementary school years, because young minds simply
aren't prepared to process that information without extreme negative effects
on them and society as a whole. I believe it's
a part of the reason why we have the racial
divisions that exist today. Racism is seated in us. We're
(33:36):
taught it, and our so called leaders just use it
to inflame the masses to retain or regain power.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
It is a.
Speaker 15 (33:46):
Bestass loving time this.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
So I'd like to give some friendly advice to my
Black American brothers and sisters out there. I'd like to
humbly tell you that to overcome the ugly legacy of slavery,
you need to forgive those few dead Americans that actually
own slaves. Forgive them and move on. Don't fall into
the trap of victimhood created by Hollywood, the media, and
(34:17):
our educational system. Our family was directly attacked for many
years by black people within our community because of the
color of our skin. We were attacked, not our ancestors,
not our grandfather's grandfather's grandparents. We were attacked, and yet
we never held the entire black community responsible for what
we endured, as our cultural elites want you to do
(34:40):
against white Americans for slavery that you never endured. We
could have easily let the victimhood mentality infect our soul.
We could have blamed an entire group. We could have
conflated the vicious attack against our mother with all the
other neighborhood attacks on our family. Even though the black
man didn't attack our mom because she was white. He
attacked her because he was a monster. But we could
(35:03):
have used that as a crutch. We could have let
the racism that we endured stain our view of the world.
But we didn't we let go of the terrorizing and
the pain and the anger and the fear and chalked
it up to just a series of bad apples. To
my brothers and sisters out there, many of us Hispanics
and Whites and Asians also know what it's like to
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be the minority.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
When you look at me and you see this Caucasian woman,
a minority looked at me and said she would never
know what I've had to go through. But I know,
I know what that feels like to be the minority.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
It's time to let go of the pain of your
ancestors because holding on to that ugly history only allows
opportunists to exploit that pain seated in you at a
very young age, and they'll continue to use it not
to help you in your everyday life. They'll use it
for their own personal gain.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
I'm believe it's time to start the national full blown
conversation about reparations.
Speaker 12 (36:08):
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Speaker 4 (36:31):
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Speaker 15 (36:34):
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who is a will not remember, who can see to
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Speaker 4 (37:04):
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