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August 13, 2025 • 46 mins

Why is the media afraid of a free speech Twitter? We finish our journey by hearing how a laptop may have led to a tech billionaire’s vow to bring back Twitter’s free speech roots. Interviews include Miranda Devine, author of Laptop from Hell, and Seth Dillon, CEO of The Babylon Bee.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
This is Red Pilled America. Previously on Red Pilled America.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
It was Hunter Biden sleeping with a crack pop in
his mouth.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
I assume that it was his dead brother's computer and
he just wanted his memories off of it.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
A controversial story re emerged in the mainstream media.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
Was Hunter Biden profiting off his dad's work as vice President?

Speaker 5 (00:25):
And did Joe Biden allow it?

Speaker 6 (00:27):
If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
I found out this incredible story about Joe Biden.

Speaker 7 (00:32):
Don't seek the help of a foreign government in your election.

Speaker 8 (00:35):
I'm announcing the House of Representatives moving forward with an
official impeachment inquiry.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Where's Hunter Hunter Biden's laptop was now the property of
John Paul mcgiaac.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
I was in trouble.

Speaker 6 (00:46):
I don't know what he was doing. I know he
was on the board.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
The next day, the FBI was at John Paul's front door.

Speaker 8 (00:55):
I'm Patrick Carrelci and I'm Adriana Cortes And this is
Red Pilled America.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
A storytelling show.

Speaker 8 (01:03):
This is not another talk show covering the day's news.
We are all about telling stories.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Stories Hollywood doesn't want you to hear stories.

Speaker 8 (01:11):
The media marks stories about everyday Americans. If the globalist ignore.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
You could think of Red Pilled America as audio documentaries,
and we've promised only one thing, the truth. Welcome to
Red Pilled America. We're at the finale of our series

(01:41):
of episodes entitled Unfiltered. If you haven't heard parts one
through four, stop and go back and listen from the beginning.
We're looking for the answer to the question why is
the media afraid of a free speech Twitter by telling
the story of Jack Dorsey's creation and how it drifted
away from being the free speech platform.

Speaker 8 (02:00):
So in part four, we met a Wilmington, Delaware, Albina
no man named John Paul mc isaac. In late April
twenty nineteen, the Apple repairman became nervous. Joe Biden had
just announced his run for the White House and that
meant trouble for John Paul because he was in possession
of Hunter Biden's laptop and it appeared to have some
incriminating files. Aside from personal illicit materials, it included I

(02:24):
catching financial documents. Hunter had worked for a potentially corrupt
Ukrainian energy company, Barisma, while his VP father was point
man for American policy in Ukraine. The Bidens claimed nothing
was fishy about the arrangement, but the laptop in John
Paul's shop said otherwise. When Joe Biden announced his candidacy,

(02:45):
the Biden's Ukraine dealings re entered the news. President Trump
and his lawyer Rudy Giuliani called for an investigation into
the whole affair. That's when the media went into protection mode,
inviting Joe Biden surrogate Adam Schiff on air to accuse
Trump of an impeachable offense. The feud escalated when Democrats
accused Trump of bribing Ukrainian President Zelensky into investigating the

(03:09):
Biden's Barizema dealings. During a call between the leaders on
September twenty four, twenty nineteen, Speaker of the House Nancy
Pelosi initiated the impeachment process. A day later, a transcript
of the call showed that at no time did President
Trump tie foreign aid to an investigation into the Bidens.
President Zelensky stated that he never felt pressured during the call.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
As this controversy monopolized the media, John Paul's anxiety level skyrocketed.
You see, Hunter Biden never picked up his laptop it
was now the legal property of John Paul, and it
seemed to contradict the Biden's public statements about their work
in Ukraine. The Apple repairman was worried that just having
the laptop was putting him in danger, so he reached

(03:54):
out to the FBI and eventually connected with an agent
Joshua and Agent Mike. They listened to John Paul's concerns,
but wouldn't take Hunter's laptop. Then something happened. In a
December eighth, twenty nineteen interview, Joe Biden claimed he knew
nothing about what his son did at Barisma. The next day,
the FBI was at John Paul's front door. They took

(04:16):
possession of the laptop, and the Apple repairman felt relieved
he'd finally gotten the computer into the hands of the
authorities his life could go back to normal. But just
as the agents were leaving, John Paul said, Agent Mike
turned around and uttered, in their experience, nothing happens to
those that don't talk.

Speaker 8 (04:40):
The Laptop from Hell it was perhaps the most important
piece of evidence in the ongoing impeachment proceedings. It included
files that potentially proved Trump's concerns about Joe Biden's corruption
in Ukraine were legitimate, so you'd expect this laptop to
be handled by the FBI with the highest level of care.

(05:03):
If it got the Hollywood screenplay treatment, you'd see Agent
Mike played by actor Nick Searcy, placing the laptop in
a briefcase, handcuffing it to his wrist, then whisked away
to the FBI's highest of high tech labs to be
analyzed by the country's foremost experts in data analysis and corruption.
The government competence seems only to happen in the movies.

(05:25):
In the case of the Laptop from Hell, the moment
the FBI took possession of it, things started to get weird. First,
according to John Paul mc ISAAC, the agents that took
the laptop began to call him for guidance on how
to remove the data from the hard drive.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Then they called me a couple times for technical support.
I expected that to be put in an evidence locker
and shut down to the lab outside of langlayer or something,
and instead they were calling me for help to access
the data.

Speaker 8 (05:53):
Red flags were going off. But that wasn't the last
of it. John Paul said they contacted him periodically to
see if someone had come into the shop to claim the.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Laptop, like they were almost anticipating somebody looking for it.
They did instruct me that if somebody did come in
asking for it, that I would to install them and
then give them a call so that they could return it.

Speaker 8 (06:13):
It was almost as if the FBI were protecting the
laptop not as potential evidence in an impeachment proceeding, but
instead to protect the bidens. As John Paul was getting
fishy about the intentions of the FBI, the impeachment process
was underway.

Speaker 9 (06:32):
On this vote, the a's are two hundred and twenty nine,
the na's are one ninety eight.

Speaker 6 (06:38):
Present is one.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Article two is adopted, and there you have it.

Speaker 7 (06:45):
President Trump has been officially impeach.

Speaker 10 (06:47):
He doesn't lose his job.

Speaker 11 (06:48):
That goes now to the Senate to decide that in
a trial.

Speaker 8 (06:52):
As the trial was just days away, John Paul no
doubt thought that the laptop would make a national appearance.
It was potential evidence in the biggest trial in America,
but it did. Instead, another narrative was underway.

Speaker 12 (07:06):
Ah, they're back a US tech firm says Russia or
Russians working for the government. We don't know, have successfully
hacked the Ukrainian gas company at the center of the
impeachment case.

Speaker 8 (07:19):
Former intelligence agency officials claimed Russian hackers were added again,
but instead of Hillary Clinton this time they were targeting
the twenty twenty Democrat front runner.

Speaker 12 (07:29):
They say the attempts to infiltrate Bisma, whose board once
included Hunter Biden, began back in early November, although it's
unclear what the hackers were actually looking for. The cyber
firm says this quote, the timing of the campaign in
relation to the twenty twenty US elections raises the specter
that this is an early warning of what we have
anticipated since the successful cyber attacks undertaken during the twenty

(07:53):
sixteen US elections end quote.

Speaker 8 (07:55):
It was almost as if the intelligence community was anticipating
a Barisma data dump around the impeachment trial while the
laptop was at the FBI. A few days later, the
trial commenced.

Speaker 7 (08:09):
We are here today in this hallowed chamber, undertaking the
solemn action for only the third time in history, because
Donald J. Trump, the forty fifth President of the United States,
has acted precisely as Hamilton and his contemporaries feared.

Speaker 8 (08:24):
The opening argument was made by Congressman Adam Schiff, the
same man that worked with the media a year earlier
to create the very narrative at the core of the impeachment.

Speaker 7 (08:34):
President Trump solicited foreign interference in our democratic elections, abusing
the power of his office to seek help from abroad
to improve his re election prospects at home, and when
he was caught, he used the powers of that office
to obstruct the investigation into his own misconduct. To implement
this corrupt scheme, President Trump pressured the President of Ukraine

(08:56):
to publicly announce investigations into two discredited allegations that would
benefit President Trump's twenty twenty presidential campaign. When the Ukrainian
president did not immediately assent, President Trump withheld two official
acts to induce the Ukrainian leader to comply. A head
of state meeting in the Oval Office and military funding.

Speaker 13 (09:18):
Both were of great.

Speaker 7 (09:19):
Consequence to Ukraine and to our national interest in security,
but one loom's largest. President Trump withheld hundreds of millions
of dollars in military aid to a strategic partner at
war with Russia to secure foreign help with his reelection,
in other words.

Speaker 8 (09:37):
To cheat. After almost three weeks of arguments the verdict
was put to a vote.

Speaker 9 (09:43):
Senators, how say you, is the respondent, Donald John Trump
guilty or not guilty?

Speaker 6 (09:49):
Mister Alexander not guilty, Miss Baldwin, Miss Baldwin guilty.

Speaker 8 (09:55):
When the votes were tallied, it revealed that the whole
affair was just a show trial.

Speaker 9 (10:00):
It is therefore ordered and adjudged that the said Donald
John Trump be and he is hereby acquitted of the
charges and said articles.

Speaker 10 (10:09):
In the Los halfa.

Speaker 14 (10:10):
The US Senate has found President Trump not guilty of
abuse of power and the obstruction of Congress in his
historic impeachment trial.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
The President is acquitted forever. It wasn't even close.

Speaker 8 (10:21):
The Senate, of course, under the constitution, needs sixty seven
votes to convict and remove a president from office.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
It was not close.

Speaker 6 (10:28):
He has not been removed.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
He will be re elected.

Speaker 15 (10:30):
This is what the end result is.

Speaker 8 (10:33):
President Trump flashed the front page headline for the country
to see. Senators found him not guilty.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
It's called total acquittal.

Speaker 8 (10:42):
In the immediate aftermath, President Trump was understandably angry, and
in his victory lap he minced no words on what
he thought of the Biden camp.

Speaker 16 (10:51):
These are the crookedest, most dishonest, dirtiest people I've ever seen.
We've been going through this now for over three years.

Speaker 9 (11:00):
It was evil, it was corrupt, it was dirty cups,
it was leakers and liars, and this should never ever
happen to another president.

Speaker 8 (11:09):
Ever, as the trial came to a close, the Apple
repairman started to think he might be in grave danger.

Speaker 17 (11:15):
NBC News is now projecting that former Vice President Joe
Biden has won a decisive victory in the South Carolina
Democratic primary, widely concereda must win for Biden.

Speaker 8 (11:26):
In the three weeks following the trial, Joe Biden had
successfully rallied Democrat leadership around his candidacy.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
NBC News projecting Alabama will go to Joe Biden as
he continues his sweep through the South.

Speaker 7 (11:38):
The Fox's Decision Death Can now project that former Vice
President Joe Biden will win the Commonwealth of Virginia.

Speaker 10 (11:44):
Joe Biden the projected winner in Arkansas.

Speaker 18 (11:46):
We're going to call Biden winning Massachusetts overnight.

Speaker 6 (11:50):
Joe Biden took command with another string of big wins
over Bernie Sanders, including the critical state of Michigan, a
state that Sanders won four years ago.

Speaker 8 (12:00):
John Paul mc Isaac.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Now I know I'm in trouble because the FBI knows
that I had this. And if the FBI is protecting
the bidens, then who's to say. Somebody's going to say, Hey, Joe,
this kid that's trying to get rid of your son
thirty Launder.

Speaker 8 (12:21):
Now, John Paul may not have had the laptop anymore,
but this is where an earlier decision paid off, because
in the summer of twenty nineteen, he did something smart
to protect himself. He created a clone of the laptop's
hard drive and sent it to a friend for safe keeping.
If anything were to happen to him, he wanted his
friend to hand deliver it to the authorities. Now he

(12:42):
needed it for his own security. According to John Paul,
he wanted to get that hard drive into the spotlight
to protect himself. No one could quietly take him out
if the laptop was in the public domain. So shortly
after Trump was acquitted, John Paul says he turned to
his father and uncle, both retired Air Force colonels, to
reach out to members of Congress, think tanks, and even

(13:04):
the White House for help.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
I had never ever crossed my mind to go to
the press or go to the media. This was something
that I felt there was a proper I always call
it the chain of command, to get this to the
proper authority so that they could be acted on, and
then I could get some level of protection.

Speaker 8 (13:20):
As his father and uncle attempted to connect with the
reputable DC insider John Paul's predicament got ratcheted up.

Speaker 13 (13:26):
CBS News now estimates that Biden has the delegates needed
to officially cleanse the nomination.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
The former Vice president will face off against President Trump
and a campaign already upended by the coronavirus pandemic.

Speaker 6 (13:37):
I'm a proud Democrat, and I'll be proud to carry
the banner of our party into the general election. So
it's a great honor and humility. I accept this nomination
for President of the United States of America.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
By the summer of twenty twenty, and I wasn't getting
a lot of feedback from anyone, and everybody was so
afraid of Russian collision that Congressman's empirical guard kind of
prevented us from actually making contact with anybody that would listen.

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Speaker 8 (15:13):
Welcome back. To red pilled America. So John Paul thought
it was time to step out of the shadows. He
decided to throw a hail Mary himself.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
So I reached out to Rudy Giuliani's office in August
of twenty twenty.

Speaker 8 (15:28):
Rudy Giuliani's lawyer, Bob Costello reached out to John Paul.
Shortly after, they exchanged a few phone calls, and around
late August twenty twenty, John Paul sent Costello a copy
of the drive.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Well, then it was out of my hands at that point,
I had gotten it to what I viewed at that
point in time, the authorities. This was a lawyer of
the President of the United States.

Speaker 8 (15:47):
Giuliani and Costello took a few weeks to analyze the
hard drive. Then they reached out to Miranda Devine at
the New York.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Post and I got a text message from Bob Costello,
who is Rudy Giuliani's lawyer. He said, you know, we've
got something that we think that you will be interested in.
Do you want to talk? And I was like, are
you kidding?

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (16:07):
And so the next day I just spent several hours
on the phone just talking to Bob Costell. And Rudy
Giuliani about the copy of the laptop clone of the
laptop that they'd been sent by this MacBook repair shop
guy in Delaware. They checked him out. He seemed to
be legit. They'd spent four or five weeks just going
through it trying to authenticate what they could see. And

(16:29):
because both Bob Costell and Rudy Giuliani were former prosecutors
from the Southern District of New York, they had these
sort of forensic legal brains that could ferret out crimes.
You know, they can sniffer a mile off. By the
time they came to us, they had already identified about
four or five kind of incriminating emails or documents that

(16:50):
would make good stories.

Speaker 8 (16:54):
So the New York Post team began their own research.
They did some due diligence on the laptop files that
were given.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
My colleague Emma John Morris did a brilliant job on that.

Speaker 8 (17:03):
They checked with some of the recipients of the emails
and they confirmed they'd indeed received the correspondence. They triangulated
the dates on some photos and documents with known public
information on Hunter Biden to ensure they fell in the
proper time. Range.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Another colleague, Gabriel Poronrouge, went down to Delaware and interviewed
Jump to Mac Isaac.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
When I reached out to Rudy Giuliani's office and I
spoke with Bob Costello, I was very adamant. Rudy was
never to even know my name. I was referred to
as Bob's guy.

Speaker 8 (17:36):
But then on Sunday, October eleventh, twenty twenty, John Paul
says he was working in his shop.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
I have a buddy of mine over. We're having a
couple of beers on helping them migrate his Mac and
shops closed like winds are closed everything. There's a knock
on the door. There's a reporter. I opened the door
and she's like, yeah, I'm from the New York person.
I'm like, well, how did you find me? And she's like,
it's my job. Bob told me you.

Speaker 8 (17:55):
Would be here again. Miranda Devine, author of Laptop from Health.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
So it was a flurry of activity pretty much from
that Sunday on, and you know, we had satisfied ourselves
that in terms at least of these particular stories that
we were going to run, we had nailed it down.
It was all legit and so that was it we published.

(18:22):
The first story we ran was this email from Hunter
Biden's Ukrainian paymaster at Barisma, this corrupt Ukrainian energy company,
and in this email he thanks Hunter for the meeting
with his father in Washington, DC. And we didn't know
the full extent of that, but it was at least

(18:44):
something that tied Joe Biden when he was vice president
with one of Hunter Biden's most lucrative engagements with shady
foreign businesses and oligarchs.

Speaker 8 (18:57):
The story included an email where a Bearisma executive asked
how Hunter could use his influence on the company's behalf.
It was a month after his VP father had become
the point man in Ukraine. They published the bombshell story
and within hours the unthinkable happened.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Twitter and Facebook. Within hours of the story going live
on October fourteen, twenty twenty, they locked our accounts. They'd
throttled the story, and then Twitter just locked our account.
They locked it for the next two weeks, and they
claimed that we had violated the hacked Materials policy. What's
so dishonest about Twitter in particular, was they just dreamed

(19:36):
up and excuse hacked material don't know where they got
that from.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
For those paying attention to this series, this policy has
a clear origin. You may remember, in the weeks leading
up to the twenty sixteen election, WikiLeaks published a drip
drip drip of the emails of Hillary Clinton's top aid
John Podesta. The emails were allegedly hacked. The Democrats felt
that this was one of the primary contributing factors to

(20:00):
Donald Trump's victory, So leave that. Twitter enforcing a so
called hacked materials policy was designed specifically to block in
October surprise that would help the Trump campaign, And this
wasn't a far fetched idea because of what occurred just
a few weeks earlier.

Speaker 19 (20:15):
For years, President Trump has battled to keep the truth
about his finances out of the hands of Congress and
away from the American public. A sweeping new report from
The New York Times shows why. Because while many of
you were shelling out money to the irs every April,
the president was not not one time in federal taxes
for ten out of fifteen years spanning from two thousand

(20:37):
to twenty fifteen. This is according to more than two
decades of tax records that were reviewed by the paper,
and in twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen. The years that
he did pay, he only paid seven hundred and fifty
dollars each year.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
The article was published weeks before The New York Post's
laptop story. In fact, it was on the eve of
the first presidential debate. Joe Biden and debate moderator Chris
Wallace even used it to attack Trump.

Speaker 6 (21:01):
The Sky paid total sex one hundred and fifty dollars
in tax Right now, is it true that you paid
seven hundred and fifty dollars in federal income taxes each
of those two years?

Speaker 8 (21:12):
I paid twenty seven return.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
There are federal laws in the books that make it
illegal to disclose unauthorized information like tax returns. The New
York Times claimed they obtained the returns through someone that
had legal access to them, but they gave no other
explanation and showed no proof the returns could have been
obtained through a hack. However, when The New York Times
posted their story on social media, neither Twitter or Facebook

(21:44):
blocked the article from being shared, and Twitter did not
lock The New York Times out of its account. Yet,
when The New York Post published Hunter Biden's emails and
clearly explained how they got them from an Apple repairman
who acquired them legally. Twitter still decided to shut down
the spread of the story. Their hacked materials excuse reeked
of political bias.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Big tech weighing in like that so nakedly exposing and
exercising their power was a surprise, because you know, they'd
always been quite crafty about sheathing their claws, but here
they were demonstrating that they were willing to use their
power against the oldest newspaper in America, the sixth largest

(22:25):
b circulation.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Trump grabbed the issue while on the twenty twenty campaign
trail and ran with it with Biden.

Speaker 16 (22:32):
Today, they take negative posts down almost before they even
go up. We've just learned, through explosive documents published by
a very fine newspaper, the New York Post, that Joe
Biden has been blatantly lying about his involvement in his
son's corrupt business daily and this is a big smoking gun.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Tellingly, the Joe Biden campaign would not definitively say the
laptop wasn't Hunters. Instead, Joe went into hiding, so to speak.
During the most pivotal time of the twenty twenty race.
He almost exclusively campaigned from home, and he wasn't the
only one that went silent on the laptop. If you

(23:15):
turn to the major news networks, not a single one
of them covered this story on the first night. The
only ones that gave it any attention were independent media
and Fox News.

Speaker 14 (23:26):
Most of us never imagined it could happen in this country,
and yet today it did happen. A major American newspaper
published a story apparently an entirely accurate story about a
presidential candidate. The tech monopolies that control American media feared
this story might hurt that candidate, whom they favor, so
three weeks before a national election, they shut the whole

(23:46):
thing down. They prevented the public from reading the news.
They didn't apologize for doing this, they didn't bother to
make up reasonable sounding justifications for it. They just did
it exactly as the Chinese government does. These are monopolies.
They have all the power you have none. They don't
have to care what you think, and they don't. This
was mass censorship on a scale that America has never experienced,

(24:09):
not in two hundred and forty five years, and it's
a threat to all of us. Democracy's only function when
there was a free exchange of information between citizens. We
no longer have that. This is a dark moment.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
The oldest newspaper in America, created by Alexander Hamilton, a
founding father of our country, was silenced by Twitter. It
was a truly astonishing moment. The free speech wing of
the Free Speech Party was now acting like the CCP,
and the entire mainstream media hardly made a peep about it.
The Democrat media complex knew this Hunter and Joe Biden

(24:43):
Ukraine story reeked of corruption. They covered it in detail
back in twenty fourteen when News first broke a Hunter
joining Barisma. But now with the election just weeks away,
the media threw free speech out the window. They wanted no,
They had to have control of the narrative, and they
needed Twitter and fail Book to help. The shutdown of

(25:05):
the New York Post by big tech was so jarring
that it even made independent media a bit gunshy at
discussing the story as from.

Speaker 20 (25:12):
The New York Posts, we're actually pulling up the near
post Twitter Facebook censor post over Hunter Biden xpose.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
I wonder if we're gonna get shut off, if.

Speaker 20 (25:20):
Like YouTube will pull the story and let's find out,
let's keep written.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Towards the end of the first day that The New
York Post published their laptop story, Twitter finally tweeted out
a detailed explanation on their actions, late enough so all
of the major networks had an excuse to ignore the story.
Twitter was stalling long enough to give the media time
to get their narratives straight, and they were about to
dig in on one point in particular, Rudy Giuliani.

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Speaker 1 (26:08):
Welcome back to Red Pilled America. When The New York
Post published their initial bombshell story, they made one mistake.
They missed blurring out the name of the Apple Repair
Shop in one of the published documents. If you read
the fine print in their first article, you could see
its name, the Mac Shop. Well. The mainstream media, dying

(26:29):
to regain control of the narrative on the story, descended
upon the Macshop to question John Paul mciaac, and they
were concerned with one angle of the story. A reporter
recorded the interactions.

Speaker 20 (26:40):
Did you send the copy to Rudy Giuliani's lawyer?

Speaker 17 (26:43):
Do you know how the copy of the hard drive
got to his lawyer?

Speaker 21 (26:46):
Why did you re up it to Rudy Giuliani. It
seems like if there's any risk that might exist, it would.

Speaker 13 (26:54):
Have grown, it would have gotten worse in September after
you had transferred the information to Rudy Giuliani's attorney.

Speaker 21 (27:01):
And it's totally fine if Rudi Giuliani reached out to you,
if that's the truth, or if you reached out to him.
We just kind of want to know what happened. I
think you should just tell the truth, because I am Tony.
I know you're telling the truth. And Eve been very
helpful for us because we pranged you before this too.
But I guess that is what we care about, right,
We can all agree to Juliani.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Rudy Giuliani had taken down the New York Mob. The
Democrats blamed him for applying pressure on the FBI in
twenty sixteen to reopen the Hillary Clinton private server investigation
that contributed to her loss. He was the lawyer of
Donald Trump and one of the original people calling for
an investigation into Biden Ukraine dealings. Rudy Giuliani was going

(27:43):
to be the villain in the media's narrative, and Twitter
and Facebook gave them time to form their approach.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
The New York Post says that they got these emails
from Rudy Giuliani and Steve Bannon. Now, this is far
from the first time that Guliani has tried to dig
up dirt and promote disinformation on the Bidens. So you
have Rudy Giuliani openly working with a known Russian agent.

Speaker 8 (28:03):
Pretty basically functioning as a Russian asset by pushing Russian disinformation.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
It is clear that this latest effort by Juliani is
raising all sorts of red flags enough for the FBI
to now be looking at this as potentially part of
Russia's broader attacks on the US.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Rudy Giuliani distributing Russian disinformation that was the narrative. The
media went out on an all out carpet bomb Russia
Russia Russia campaign to form the narrative and protect the
Democrat nominee.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
Serious questions tonight about whether the Russians are using Rudy
Giuliani to interfere in the US presidential election.

Speaker 18 (28:40):
US authorities are seeing if those emails we just talked
about are connected to an ongoing Russian disinformation effort.

Speaker 11 (28:47):
It is so obviously disinformation that the person that writes
the story won't put their name on it because they
know it's a lie.

Speaker 20 (28:57):
Hunter Biden's laptop, that whole thing is as in fizzling.
It looks like it's tied to Vladimer Putent in.

Speaker 13 (29:03):
Moscow, disinformation that he knows to be fabricated and supplied
by a foreign intelligence service, and despite the warning, he's
still doing it.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
You have said, this entire thing is so obviously a
Russian plot. Those emails are being scrutinized by the FBI
as part of a potential disinformation campaign.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Then the media cemented the narrative by bringing in former
FBI officials to reinforce their unverified claim.

Speaker 13 (29:30):
When you look at this computer store owner in Delaware
who allegedly received Hunter Biden's laptop, that is more in
line with when you think about somebody who's a useful idiot.
That's kind of the entry point. That is kind of
again a classic indicator of the potential presence of disinformation.

Speaker 20 (29:46):
This looks like your classic disinformation campaign.

Speaker 18 (29:50):
Eric O'Neil is a former FBI operative.

Speaker 20 (29:53):
Steal the information with a cyber attack, get the emails
from Hunter Biden's account, and then put them on these
laptops that are left at a repair store, and that's
how the information now laundered into the public.

Speaker 10 (30:04):
Who do you think is behind this?

Speaker 20 (30:06):
Well, the Russians would be my number one gas if I.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Had the gas again, Miranda Devine.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Clearly the message had gone out, do whatever you can
to suppress and sense it this story. Shortly after they
suppressed our story, you had the fifty one former intelligence
officials came out with that bogus letter.

Speaker 8 (30:25):
The letter was signed by over fifty former intelligence officials
claiming that the entire Hunter laptop email story had quote
all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Having not seen the laptop, having not seen any of
the material, they used the authority of their former high
ranking positions, and these people like John Brennan and James Colapert, and.

Speaker 21 (30:48):
To me, this is this classic textbook Soviet Russian trade
craft at work.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
They used that former authority to tell a lie. What
they were telling the American people was don't listen to this,
it's Russian disinformation. And that's exactly what Joe Biden did

(31:15):
when he had his debate a few days later. He
used that letter to tell the American people that the
laptop was Russian disinformation. There for our story was, and
that got him off the hook.

Speaker 17 (31:28):
Joe, they're calling you a corrupt politician.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Nobody.

Speaker 20 (31:32):
I want to stay on.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
The issue of race.

Speaker 20 (31:34):
We're talking about shop from Hill.

Speaker 12 (31:36):
President Trump, We're talking about race right now, and I
do want to stay on the issue of race.

Speaker 6 (31:40):
President Trump, I have to respond to that.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Please.

Speaker 6 (31:42):
Look, very are fifty former national intelligence folks who said
that what this he's accusing me of is a Russian plan.
They have said that this has all the care. Four
five former heads of the CIA, both parties say what
he's saying is a bunch of garbage.

Speaker 20 (32:01):
Nobody believes it.

Speaker 6 (32:02):
Except them his and his good friend Rudijiolli.

Speaker 17 (32:05):
You mean the laptop is now another Russia Russia Russia
hopes you.

Speaker 6 (32:09):
That's exactly this way, exactly where he's going.

Speaker 8 (32:14):
The FBI knew that the laptop story wasn't a Russian
operation because they had the laptop. The media had to
have known this as well. The Barisma story wasn't a
new story to them. It had been percolating for over
six years.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
There was already a lot of information out there that
seemed to confirm what we were saying. And yet there
was this lack of curiosity, and it would have become
I think impossible for those other media outlets to sustain
that had it not been for initially the social media giants,

(32:49):
which gave them sort of breathing room in a fig
leaf not to cover it. And then secondly, four days
later after US first story was published on these fifty
one intelligence guys, and then that just gave everybody there excuse.
It got big take off the hook. It got the
rest of the media off the hook. They could just
dismiss this and dismiss the New York Post as being

(33:11):
agents of the Kremlin, you know, just like Donald Trump.

Speaker 8 (33:15):
Just days before election day, leaders from the three dominant
big tech firms Google, Facebook, and Twitter were called to
a Senate hearing to discuss the company's influence on the election.
In responding to the senators, Mark Zuckerberg made perhaps the
most revealing statement. He informed the Senate committee that the FBI,
the same organization that had a copy of the laptop

(33:37):
for almost a year, warned them of a document dump
before election day.

Speaker 22 (33:41):
You know, one of the threats that the FBI has
alerted our company is in the public too, was the
possibility of a hack and leak operation in the days
or weeks leading up to this election in private meetings,
alerts that were given to at least our company, I
assume the others as well, that suggested that we be
on high alert and sensitivity that if a trove of

(34:05):
documents appeared, that we should view that with suspicion that
it might be part of a foreign manipulation attempt.

Speaker 8 (34:12):
Let that sink in for a minute. The FBI had
the laptop for almost a year. If the laptop was
Russian disinformation, wouldn't they have arrested John Paul mc isaac
for election interference. Well they never did. Instead, they allowed
former intelligence agency officials to spread false information about the
motive behind the New York Post story. If anyone interfered

(34:35):
in the twenty twenty election, it was the intelligence community
and the mainstream media. At the Senate hearing, Ted Cruz
took a stab at getting answers from Twitter co founder
Jack Dorsey.

Speaker 15 (34:45):
The three witnesses we had before this committee today collectively
pose I believe the single greatest threat to free speech
in America and the greatest threat we have to free
and fair elections. But today I want to focus my
questioning on mister Dorsey and on Twitter. Because of the
three players before us, I think Twitter's conduct has by

(35:07):
far been the most egregious. Mister Dorsey, does Twitter have
the ability to influence elections?

Speaker 10 (35:14):
No?

Speaker 15 (35:15):
You don't believe Twitter has any ability to influence elections.

Speaker 14 (35:18):
No.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
We are one part of a spectrum of continuation challenge
as people have.

Speaker 15 (35:23):
If you don't think you have the power to influence elections,
why do you block anything?

Speaker 13 (35:27):
Well, we have policies that are focused on making sure
that more voices on the platform are possible.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
We see a lot of abuse in harassment, which ends
up silencing.

Speaker 22 (35:35):
People and something them leave from the platform.

Speaker 15 (35:38):
All right, mister Dorsey, I find your opening answers absurd.

Speaker 8 (35:41):
On their face and with his testimony, Jack Dorsey quietly
revealed Twitter's role it had become a pivotal component of
the Democrat narrative machine.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
A day after Jack Dorsey's Senate testimony, Twitter's chief technology
officer went on the d Machines We Trust podcast, asked
and confessed to the company's new speech filtering role.

Speaker 21 (36:07):
Our role is not to be bound by the First Amendment,
but our role.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Is he said quote. Our role is not to be
bound by the First Amendment, but our role is to
serve a healthy public conversation. And our moves are reflective
of things that we believe lead to a healthier public conversation.
The kinds of things that we do to work about
this is to focus less on thinking about free speech,
but thinking about how the times have changed. One of

(36:34):
the changes today that we see is speech is easy
on the internet. Most people can speak, but our role,
which is particularly emphasized, is who can be heard.

Speaker 14 (36:45):
Where our role is particularly emphasized is who can be heard.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
By Election Day twenty twenty, the media's new narrative machine
was an aspiring force to behold flex and work.

Speaker 10 (36:57):
As an allegaty cality or back to work. After pausing
counting overnight, Weler County had to press pause on count ballots.
Nevada meanwhile, has stopped counting votes until nine am on Thursday.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Oh water pipe has broken in State Farm Arena, State
Farm Marinas, where they were kind of the absolute ballots
of Georgia's most populous county, and now the population has stopped.

Speaker 23 (37:14):
Good morning, Heather.

Speaker 22 (37:15):
They didn't have the press pause overnight. They will be
back in a few short hours. Expected to resume counting
around eight thirty this morning.

Speaker 12 (37:21):
Fulton County is now going to stop counting at ten
thirty PM, and we'll resume their count tomorrow morning.

Speaker 10 (37:26):
The election workers stopped counting those mail in ballots at
ten o'clock.

Speaker 20 (37:30):
They will be.

Speaker 10 (37:31):
Back again tomorrow at ten am, but the counting in
one of that state's biggest counties has stopped. Mike Armstrong
is in Pennsylvania. Mike, we're talking about Allegheny County. That's
the area around Pittsburgh. What's happening. CBS News projects that
Joe Biden has been elected the forty sixth president of
the United States.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Just as pictures of Hunter and Joe Biden embracing to
celebrate their victory littered news media, any narratives around the
integrity of the election were quickly and ruthlessly purged Twitter,
when the rest of big tech suspended accounts that questioned
the results and would eventually purge the Jedi of the
Twitter verse himself.

Speaker 5 (38:10):
You will never again see a tweet from President Trump.
A short time ago, the company suspended him forever.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
A new power was unleashed. People who attended the Washington
DC protests over the election were purged from social media.
Some were even thrown in jail. Experts that challenged the
establishment's narrative on COVID nineteen were purged from Twitter as well.
The Overton window of allowable speech on the former free
speech platform had drastically narrowed, but one man was about

(38:45):
to take an interest in free speech. Perhaps the first
sign of this interest came in early January twenty twenty one.
The satirical outfit The Babylon B tweeted out a picture
of Donald Trump with the headline evil fascist dictator censored
and voted out of office. Musk replied to the tweet saying, quote,
a lot of people are going to be super unhappy

(39:07):
with the West Coast high tech as the de facto
arbiter of free speech end quote. Surprisingly, Elon started to
frequently interact with The Babylon B. A bromance was kindled.

Speaker 23 (39:19):
He'd been following us for some time. And was engaging
with our content on a regular basis.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
That's Seth Dyllon, CEO of The Babylon B.

Speaker 23 (39:27):
So we knew that he knew who we were, and
then he liked our content. You know, he had tweeted
at one point he said the Babylon b is savage,
So you know he had engaged with us, had praised us,
so we knew he was a fan of ours.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Elon seemed to have the same irreverent approach to the
establishment as The Babylon B. The billionaire continued interacting with
the satire site, and then one day in mid December
twenty twenty one, The Babylon Bee asked Elon if he'd
appear on their podcast again Seth Dylon.

Speaker 23 (39:56):
When he actually responded and said, sure, let's do an interview.
Just come to Austin. I'm available this weekend. We didn't
expect him to respond or say yes, especially not on
such short notice and to say hey, come I I mean,
we were within like forty eight hours of hearing back
from him. We were sitting at a table interviewing him
in Austin, Texas.

Speaker 24 (40:13):
I guess before we gets outed, like, maybe you guys
can tell me like how did the be gets odded?
And what's your deal? And why are in California.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
The bromance continued in the weeks and months that followed,
but then one day, Musk reportedly noticed that The Babylon
b hadn't posted to Twitter in a while. Their last post,
on March twentieth, twenty twenty two, was a picture of
Hunter Biden and an election day voting line with the
caption nation wishes there was some way they could have
known about the Hunter Biden laptop story before the election

(40:53):
end quote. Just a few days earlier, the New York
Times had essentially acknowledged the New York Post Hunter Biden
laptop story was accurate, and The Babylon Bee was doing
what it does, poking fun at the media establishment. But
it was their next posts that got them suspended. They
mockingly awarded the transgender government official Rachel Levine with the

(41:14):
title Man of the Year. Elon reached out to The
Babylon b to see why they stopped posting. When he
learned they'd been suspended for a joke, it may have
been the straw that broke the camel's back. Elon took
to Twitter and posted a poll that asked the question, quote,
free speech is essential to a functioning democracy. Do you
believe Twitter rigorously adheres to this principle? End quote? Roughly

(41:39):
seventy percent of two million voters answered no. A day later,
he tweeted, quote, given that Twitter serves as the de
facto public town square, failing to adhere to free speech
principles fundamentally undermines democracy? What should be done? End quote?
Something was brewing? Then. On April fourth, twenty twenty two.

Speaker 18 (41:59):
Elon Mascu has bought nearly ten percent of Twitter, an
investment of around three billion dollars.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Ten days later, Elon upped the annie.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Elon Musk took the Twitter verse by storm today with
an unsolicited bid to buy the social media platform. Musk
made billions with electric cars and reusable rockets, and says
he now wants to turn Twitter into the world's quote
platform for free speech.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
In an interview at the TED conference later that day,
Elon explained why he wanted to buy Twitter.

Speaker 24 (42:30):
Twitter has become kind of the de facto town square,
so it's just really important that people have both the
reality and the perception that they are able to speak
freely within the bounds of the low. It's important to
the function of democracy, it's important to the function of
the United States as a free country on many other countries,

(42:52):
and to help freedom in the world more broadly than
the US. I think it's the civilizational risk is decreased
if the more we can increase the trust of Twitter
as a public platform.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
The thought of free speech returning to Twitter sent the
mainstream media into a state of panic.

Speaker 8 (43:11):
Elon Musk has never been an advocate for free speech.

Speaker 23 (43:13):
He's an advocate for speech without consequences.

Speaker 5 (43:17):
And when he's asked whether he's a free speech absolutist
and he says yes, I guess what does that mean.

Speaker 8 (43:22):
When Elon Musk says, wow, this is about free speech,
it seems to me that it's about free speech of
straight white men.

Speaker 18 (43:32):
If you can invite to something where there is total
freedom for everybody, do you actually want to go to
that party?

Speaker 1 (43:43):
And when news of Elon's takeover hit the Twitter staff,
Vijaya Gaddy, the Twitter exec that censored the Hunter Biden
laptop story on the platform, reportedly cried during his staff meeting.
When Elon heard about the tears, he responded stating, quote
suspending the Twitter account of a major news organization for
publishing a truthful story was obviously in credibly inappropriate, which

(44:11):
brings us back to the question why is the media
afraid of a free speech Twitter. The answer is simple,
because the media doesn't want you to hear the news unfiltered.
It wants total control of the narrative. Going back to
twenty eleven, Andrew Breitbart and his band of rebel journalists

(44:31):
used Twitter to bypass the media filter and force the
resignation of Anthony Wiener. Gamer Gate built on this tactic,
using Twitter to bypass the media filter and expose the
feminist corruption that had infiltrated the gaming industry. Donald Trump
and WikiLeaks continued to evolve the technique by using Twitter
to bypass the media filter and force the truth into

(44:52):
the public conscience. By twenty sixteen, Twitter had become a
way for the public to hear the truth unfiltered, without
the spin and misdirection of the Democrat media co complex.
So the media took steps to regain control of the
narrative machine. They pressured the free speech wing of the
Free Speech Party to rethink the entire notion of free speech.

(45:13):
In response, Twitter created a trust and safety council that
was purportedly created to make the platform healthier, but in reality,
Twitter set up a new way to purge unauthorized narratives
like the Hunter Biden laptop story. In essence, Twitter had
abandoned its free speech roots and became arguably the most
important player in the Democrat narrative machine. That's why the

(45:37):
mainstream media hates a free speech Twitter. They want to
play on an uneven playing field because that's the only
way they can win. They don't want you to hear
the news unfiltered, and they'll do anything to keep their
monopoly on the narrative machine.

Speaker 23 (45:51):
It looks like the FED has now opened up an
investigation on Elon's purchase of Twitter.

Speaker 16 (45:56):
What a Surprise.

Speaker 8 (46:00):
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