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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, Hello, welcome in everybody, It's the After Show.
(00:02):
Justin Winnie. Hope you're doing well. Thank you for joining.
Thank you so much for taking the time to look
up our podcast. Maybe you're here for the first time.
Maybe you heard us give a plug on the radio
on the regular Billion Lisa Show, and now you're here,
So welcome. How are you doing, Winnie?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I'm good. How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I'm good. How was your weekend?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm productive? How about you?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
It was good. I didn't do anything. Yeah, I just
stayed around my house. I didn't have any any big plans. Yeah,
which is cool. You know, it's sometimes it's cool to
be low key. Yeah, you know, it's nice. I feel
like the best weekends are the weekends that you have
nothing to do except one thing. Yeah, so something on
a Saturday night or something, you know, something like that.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I think I got my nails done, I got my
eyebrows done.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Oh that's good.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Pulled a bunch of shit on my Instagram.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So what are you gonna do with your new fund money?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Paid off my furniture? Yeah, so, because.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I know you paid off your furniture and now you're
trying to recoup the money you paid with.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
That's my thought process.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I actually think I'm going to sell my Apple Watch
next because I never use it.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Jen has one, my wife, and she does not use it.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Never.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
It sits in my drawer. It's like brand new. It
sits in my junk draw just like in the corner.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
That's why I don't get one, because.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I don't like a lot of I don't if you know,
it's I don't really wear a lot of jewelry, so
I don't really like the feeling of things on me,
so I.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Don't really wear it.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I used to wear it when I worked out, but
then I got into the habit of knowing that even
if it wasn't clocked on my wrist, I still did
the workout. I didn't need to like justify that I
had to have that on for the workout to count.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, you know what I mean, Well, that's good that
you don't need that, but also, you know, I feel
like if I have another thing to play with, you know,
another thing too.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
That's yeah, we already had a little thing.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I already you know what he's doing. Just fine.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Billy and Lisa in the Morning present a behind the
scenes look into Boston's favorite morning show.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
That's a little too much information. The after show podcast,
he was justin and winning. So last week I got
a talkback. I should have pulled it, but it was
on I think it was on Friday, and it said
I was telling a story about Halloween and my cousin
and I mentioned that, you know, he did something on
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my Halloween mask when I was a kid, and then
the listener was like, you know, you always talk about
your cousin, you know, and all the crazy stuff that
you did. What's an update on him? So, I mean
the update is he's doing good. He's out of prison.
He did a lot of prison time, my older cousin,
he you know, he was basically away for twenty years,
you know, in prison, and he did a long stretch.
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He got out a few years ago and he did
about eleven twelve years and he got out and now
he lives you know, he lives at my when my
dad lives in Malden there and you know, I think
he's done getting in trouble and stuff. He's older now,
he has two kids. Well, he was working, but then
he lost his job and now I don't know if
he's like an unemployment. But I did see him a
couple of weekends ago and he was asking if I
(02:58):
heard anything about jobs, and I was thinking about I
was like, I don't know, I have to think about that,
you know. But after I left the house, I thought,
because he's very big, muscular, and he's you know, he's
a little intimidating look construction. No, you know what I
was thinking of security? Yeah, like big night, Yeah, you
know at the clubs. Yeah, you know what, because he's
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got a neck tat he's covering, covering. No, my cousin,
you look at him, you know, I mean, he's a
nice guy. You know, he's he can talk to him.
He's very like, very conversational. But from the looks point,
you know, he looks like twenty years Well he did, okay,
So when we were in two thousand and one, he
got three to five in state prison. He got out
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for almost a year, and then we both got arrested
together and he violated probation. Went back for two and
a half years. Then he got out, was out for
not only a year, and he got a big charge.
So he's been only been out of two years out
of twenty so he spent a lot of prison time
in prison, and you know, We always joke about me
and me doing prison time. The reality is I never
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did like long time. Did a year well the biggest things,
like I was two and a half years, but you
see parole after half of that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
How long it was a year?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
It was a little over a year. It was about
fourteen years. Did a couple like six months held on trial?
Seven months? If you added up total, it's probably four
or five years total. I mean, yeah, total, But that's
not at once.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I know, I know, but that's a lot for someone
that's five years of your life.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
It is then you had the dys time that I did.
You know, I was committed to dys as a youth.
So but when you do a stretch of time like
he did, I really see the effects that it had
on him. And I talk about it with him. I'm
like what, and he's like, I deal with so much now,
depression and just you know a lot of mental illness, yeah,
from being in there, especially especially on the federal level.
(04:46):
So the Fed so okay, so if you're in they
have county, which is like bill Ricca, South Bay, then
they have state prison, right, which is the next step.
Probably Shirley Max right that. But you know, even if
it's state prison, your family can come busy. Yeah, when
you go to Fed's, you're around the whole country. They
don't even tell you where you're going. You just get
on a plane and they just ship you. You know.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
It's funny. Is I know a guy that's in the
FEDS right and he calls me a couple of times
a year?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Is he still in the FEDS? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
And I never know.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
So he's been in Minnesota, Yeah, he's been in Pennsylvania.
He's been in New Hampshire. I'll be like, oh, where
are you now? It's a kid I went to college
with that, like we literally would. So there was a
murder in New Hampshire and he had the gun, supplied the.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Gun to the guy that murdered.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
It was like a he was associated with a with
a murder.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
So I think he got like the charge of the
gun charge.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
But because it went from mass to New Hampshire or
vice versa, it was federal because.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
It was over state line on did he get I
think he?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I mean, okay, I haven't seen him since twenty thirteen,
and he probably got it like twenty fifteen. Okay, so
he's actoually done because twenty fifteen he's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
You can, I can look up the murder writing letters.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
No, no, no, no, no. I don't know why he
still calls me. We hooked up in college when I
was like nineteen or twenty a couple of times, and
he was a nice kid, but like definitely like on
the wrong side of you know, he would For me,
it was just like a college hook up, and I
think for him it was like she remembered my number
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and he calls me, Oh, what's going Oh you're gonna
like help me when I get out.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I'm like, no, well, clearly you were memorable to him.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I'm memori to everybody, and when you're in there. Yeah,
he's a nice person.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I just think at the time he was like, you know,
in his young twenties, like caught up. Now he's like,
I don't want any parts when I get out, like
I want to just work and you know focus.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I think he has two.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Daughters and he's just like I just that's all I
care about. And I think one of his daughters, her
mom died, so like his daughter doesn't have you know, anybody.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I mean, look, if he wasn't trying to get with
you romantically. I would say, you know, a letter, a
letter to a prisoner, it means so much.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I already fucked him, Okay, it was not good. I
would never fuck him again. But you know, he was
cool people. He never got me in trouble. It was
just like, uh, you know, I think he had friends
that like were at my college. I met him on
campus type of vibe, you know what I mean, and
he just like.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
He didn't go to no, no no.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
But yeah, so like he's one of those people where
you're like, oh, like you feel like he just went
down the wrong path, and like he meant he means, well, yeah,
so like I'll pick up sometimes, but after a while
I'll just stop answering and then he'll get the hint
and then he'll try like a year later, you know,
but I feel.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I kind of just feel bad.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
But yeah, yeah, but at the same time, like you
report you so, like I think I was like telling
him when we were like you know, teenagers, like, bro,
you gotta getr shit together.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Well, you know, he's he's paying the price for what
he did. That's what that's what prison is.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah, I think he's probably like thirty three, maybe thirty two.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I mean he has his life ahead of them. Yeah,
you know he can get out and turn his life around. Yeah,
or he could continue being a criminal and just go back.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I hope he does.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
But anyways, so I know that because every time he
calls me, I never know where he is.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, they may be they don't even tell you.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, he's like and then he's like, I'm like, when
you get out, and he keeps saying all soon soon.
I think it's going to be next year because that
would be eight that would be is that eighty.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Percent used to do eighty five percent?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, that would be.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
About it, Yeah, because I think the thing happened in
twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah, in county time, you see parole halfway three per cents.
If you get two years, you see parole in one.
In state time, you do the bottom number. So if
you get a four to five, yeah, you have to
do four years and then you see parole. But in
federal you do eighty five percent. So my cousin got
thirteen years and he did almost twelve. Yeah, so you
know it's it's crazy, but yeah, he's doing right. So
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you wanted the update on him. There you go. He's
doing fine. He's not committing crimes anymore, and that's the
most important thing. But we did a lot of stuff together,
like a lot. We were kind of reminiscing when I
saw him a couple of weeks ago about different things
that we forgot about. He was like my running partner. Yeah,
now he was the one that was I ran with him,
did a lot of stuff with that I'm not proud of.
So we're both in better places now. So that's good, yes,
(09:05):
you know. But yeah, like I said, I didn't do
anything this weekend. Really, I just hung around the house.
It was the weather was beautiful, and it was nice
because I brought the TV outside in the backyard for
the fh.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Oh nice, that's nice. I had a traumatic experience last night.
I don't even want to speak about it, but I
think it's time we talk about it.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Is this about your Instagram?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
The question is not it being suspended. It's it's why
was it?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
So?
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I don't know what posts though. They don't tell you. No,
they don't tell you a post no.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
So the only I do you see? I posted like
me organized in my bathroom. Yes, okay, so I posted
that and I had edited on TikTok. TikTok is actually
a lot easier to edit on, Like you know, when
we do what we do, I edit videos like every day.
So if I'm not editing here with like my Mac,
with like my editing tools, it's actually easier to edit
on TikTok. So I had saved it down and there
(09:53):
was With TikTok, they let you use So an Instagram,
if you save a save down the thing that you edit, right,
and you have a song on there from Instagram, it
mutes the video.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
But TikTok actually lets you download the video with whatever
audio is on that video.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Oh is that right?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
So I just posted the edited version from TikTok on
both TikTok and Instagram.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
And I didn't like cite like the music.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
It was like Billie Eilish song, and I like forgot
because like the music was already embedded in it, and
I thought it was maybe that. But like I talked
to Gianna and because she's had this happened a couple
of times and she's like, no, but it would have
just been that post, and they like normally they would
just be like, oh, this one post.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Is flagged right for like a copyright infringement.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
They found your whole page offense.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
They took my whole page right, So I'm freaking out.
I had up Tony, our digital guy. I mean, I
have like close to twenty one thousand followers. This is
years of like, you know, content, Like did.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
They take any of your posts down?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
No?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
They emailed me back in urla and later saying sorry,
it was a mistake.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
So I don't know what it could have been. So
what I did do, because I mean I was a
little the eating the Thanksgiving sandwich was that was quite
the video.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
So what I did, which I wasn't I didn't never
want to do, but I actually paid for the verification
because it's much you might you might you want to think.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
About it too.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Oh you already got it.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, it takes like it took like five minutes. You
might want to do it too, because if it fucks
with you, you can lose your whole Instagram.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
And if you're certified. If you're verified, then.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
You can like look like have a number to call
for Instagram if something happened fifteen I know, but Gianna
was like, you write it off on your taxis because.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
It's a work expense. Oh I was thinking about it,
so I did it.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I never wanted to do. I never wanted to buy
a blue check. I always against it. I wanted it naturally,
but I just can't risk with like, I mean, even
the amount of content I have, because I delete a
lot of it from my phone after I post it,
because why would I need it anymore because the Instagram
like holds all of it. So I just don't want
to risk it again. And I got it back within
an hour.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I mean, it's traumatic, and well, I'm sorry, I understand.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Okay, you remember the days, but you had like a
thousand followers and no one fucked with you.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Actually, someone actually DM me. They were listening recently. They
were listening to an old podcast. I don't know if
it was me and you and me and Becks, and
I think it was me and you, and we were
talking about how I had, like, you know, two thousand followers,
and I was complaining about not being able to post
a link. Yes, yeah, because you needed ten thousand.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
And I was like, all I want is the link
and now anyone could post the link, which is annoying me.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I know.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yeah, but like you have like set what sixteen seventeen thousand, Yeah,
I had close to twenty one thousand like that, I
mean a couple. I remember Billie's wedding, which was four
years ago almost to the date, in October.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
October first, I was pumped.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I got five thousand followers because everyone wanted to see
what was going on that weekend. So I gained like
one thousand followers. So in under four years, I've tripled
my following. And I have a lot of engagement and
it's part of our job.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Well you're very active, Well you got Instagram, Well you
got to be.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
And I used to not have that mentality. I used
to be a selfie girl only. And I was like,
you know what, I got to get it at that
mentality because ours is actually driving the entire show, whereas
if I was just like having a more normal job,
I wouldn't care to post like I do. But I
think it's important for us to engage with the listener
and you know, show our lives and like whatever. And
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I have the means to do it, so I take
pride in doing it. But I don't want it to
just be like them, you know, just suspended and they
didn't even give me a reason.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
They just said, hello, sorry, my bad. Basically was the email.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, that's interesting, so you basically disputed it, yes, And
then they came back and said, oh sorry.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yes, And I did end up taking down the original
video that I thought my chicked it off, and I
put up like the like the video without that music
in it.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
So, so how did you discover that it was gone? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
So I was on So I had posted it and
then I was like scrolling on Instagram and I like
went to like check a DM from some I like
a message or something like that, and it's an era
era and it was like I couldn't get any new messages.
Like I kept like trying to like refresh the page
and it said couldn't load, couldn't load. And then all
of a sudden, this thing popped up on my screen
saying that I was suspended, like I'll show it to
you hand on and I was like, what the fuck
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did I do? Oh yeah, look it. I submit an appeal.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Oh yeah, what happened? To take another look at your
account if we find And then they took a look
and they found that was really quick for us.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Sunday, I called Gianna was like when it happened to me.
It took like the next morning, so I thought, maybe
when I got up this morning.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Hers get taken down for she doesn't know. Oh, the
same thing happened.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yeah, and it happened to her like three times, so
she finally did the she goes I didn't do the
verification thing.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Then it happened two more times, and I would say,
I have to do it.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Well, I wonder if it's like a conspiracy verify yeah,
to make money.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Because because Tony, our digital guy, said it happened to
a lot of influencers, don't freak.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Out, Oh shit, yeah, what if they do do that
on purpose? They see that someone has a lot of
followers and they're not verified, they're like, what the fuck?
Why aren't you Why aren't you paying up?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
And we've well that And I didn't want to do that,
but like it was because in my eyes, I'm like,
if once I do that, they'll never verify me their
own way, they'll you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Can you still get verified the old fashioned right?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Oh you can, Yes, I believe you can, but it's
just very hard to do. Like I don't I'm not
like I don't need to like throw shade. But like
when billiingly throughout verified, it was so much easier to
tell you that.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
If you look at all the news people, yeah, they
all verified, and they have like five hundred followers. And
that's because early on, if you were just in media.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Do you remember Tory that was an intern and did
stuff down at marketing? I think, so, Okay, she's verified
and she has nine hundred followers because I think she
worked for BuzzFeed or something.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, yeah, I remember that she's been verified four years.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. And then they made it
harder and harder to get verified. I've submitted. I haven't
done it a long time, but I submitted several times.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yeah, and Tony submits for us all the time. Yeah,
but they just they make it way harder than it
needs to be.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I don't get it. We have all the proof. You
could pay for it.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I'm the only loser I know I could.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I mean, I'm just thinking, because like again, you've worked
so hard to get your little following.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Okay, don't minimize my fill I do, so hold on.
I have a little penis and a little follow up.
Everything about me is little.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I gotta go because producer Riley needs to show me something.
I'm so sad that she's leaving us to go on
her vacation.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Oh yeah, she's gonna be gone for a week and
I have.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
It's a lot of work for you and I, but
we'll do it. I want her to have a good time.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
It'll be fine, No, it will.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
But it's just like a lot of moving parts. When
like we're gonna have to like get the brick, I'm
gonna run out to get the phone for like Serena Carpenter.
Then I have to like come back and give him
the name. Then I gotta like edit everything in between
commercials while editing videos in between commercials.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Hey, we did it before when we had no one
I know.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Remember it was just you, me and Billy Flake for
six weeks. Yep, that was a ship show.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
So we can do it. It's just like I haven't
done I hadn't had over a year. I haven't had
to do much on the side that what she does,
right because before when it was he who will not
be named, I was still doing everything.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
We'll have Riley on the air tomorrow at nine to
ten and talk about her big tree up.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, because tomorrow's last day.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, yeah, that's good. Everyone else enjoy it. Today is
the last No, tomorrow is the last day. So these
two days are gonna be great weather wise, and then
it all goes to ship and fall.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Also had birthday to my daddy, Nick Jonas.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I thought you were gonna say your dad, Tony, Nick Jonas. God,
all right, Happy birthday, Nick Jonas. Goodbye,
All right, Hello, welcome in everybody, It's the After Show.
(00:02):
Justin Winnie. Hope you're doing well. Thank you for joining.
Thank you so much for taking the time to look
up our podcast. Maybe you're here for the first time.
Maybe you heard us give a plug on the radio
on the regular Billion Lisa Show, and now you're here,
So welcome. How are you doing, Winnie?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I'm good. How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
I'm good. How was your weekend?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm productive? How about you?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
It was good. I didn't do anything. Yeah, I just
stayed around my house. I didn't have any any big plans. Yeah,
which is cool. You know, it's sometimes it's cool to
be low key. Yeah, you know, it's nice. I feel
like the best weekends are the weekends that you have
nothing to do except one thing. Yeah, so something on
a Saturday night or something, you know, something like that.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I think I got my nails done, I got my
eyebrows done.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Oh that's good.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Pulled a bunch of shit on my Instagram.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So what are you gonna do with your new fund money?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Paid off my furniture? Yeah, so, because.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I know you paid off your furniture and now you're
trying to recoup the money you paid with.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
That's my thought process.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I actually think I'm going to sell my Apple Watch
next because I never use it.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Jen has one, my wife, and she does not use it.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Never.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
It sits in my drawer. It's like brand new. It
sits in my junk draw just like in the corner.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
That's why I don't get one, because.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I don't like a lot of I don't if you know,
it's I don't really wear a lot of jewelry, so
I don't really like the feeling of things on me,
so I.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Don't really wear it.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I used to wear it when I worked out, but
then I got into the habit of knowing that even
if it wasn't clocked on my wrist, I still did
the workout. I didn't need to like justify that I
had to have that on for the workout to count.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, you know what I mean, Well, that's good that
you don't need that, but also, you know, I feel
like if I have another thing to play with, you know,
another thing too.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
That's yeah, we already had a little thing.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I already you know what he's doing. Just fine.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
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Speaker 1 (01:54):
That's a little too much information. The after show podcast,
he was justin and winning. So last week I got
a talkback. I should have pulled it, but it was
on I think it was on Friday, and it said
I was telling a story about Halloween and my cousin
and I mentioned that, you know, he did something on
(02:15):
my Halloween mask when I was a kid, and then
the listener was like, you know, you always talk about
your cousin, you know, and all the crazy stuff that
you did. What's an update on him? So, I mean
the update is he's doing good. He's out of prison.
He did a lot of prison time, my older cousin,
he you know, he was basically away for twenty years,
you know, in prison, and he did a long stretch.
(02:36):
He got out a few years ago and he did
about eleven twelve years and he got out and now
he lives you know, he lives at my when my
dad lives in Malden there and you know, I think
he's done getting in trouble and stuff. He's older now,
he has two kids. Well, he was working, but then
he lost his job and now I don't know if
he's like an unemployment. But I did see him a
couple of weekends ago and he was asking if I
(02:58):
heard anything about jobs, and I was thinking about I
was like, I don't know, I have to think about that,
you know. But after I left the house, I thought,
because he's very big, muscular, and he's you know, he's
a little intimidating look construction. No, you know what I
was thinking of security? Yeah, like big night, Yeah, you
know at the clubs. Yeah, you know what, because he's
(03:19):
got a neck tat he's covering, covering. No, my cousin,
you look at him, you know, I mean, he's a
nice guy. You know, he's he can talk to him.
He's very like, very conversational. But from the looks point,
you know, he looks like twenty years Well he did, okay,
So when we were in two thousand and one, he
got three to five in state prison. He got out
(03:40):
for almost a year, and then we both got arrested
together and he violated probation. Went back for two and
a half years. Then he got out, was out for
not only a year, and he got a big charge.
So he's been only been out of two years out
of twenty so he spent a lot of prison time
in prison, and you know, We always joke about me
and me doing prison time. The reality is I never
(04:01):
did like long time. Did a year well the biggest things,
like I was two and a half years, but you
see parole after half of that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
How long it was a year?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
It was a little over a year. It was about
fourteen years. Did a couple like six months held on trial?
Seven months? If you added up total, it's probably four
or five years total. I mean, yeah, total, But that's
not at once.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I know, I know, but that's a lot for someone
that's five years of your life.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
It is then you had the dys time that I did.
You know, I was committed to dys as a youth.
So but when you do a stretch of time like
he did, I really see the effects that it had
on him. And I talk about it with him. I'm
like what, and he's like, I deal with so much now,
depression and just you know a lot of mental illness, yeah,
from being in there, especially especially on the federal level.
(04:46):
So the Fed so okay, so if you're in they
have county, which is like bill Ricca, South Bay, then
they have state prison, right, which is the next step.
Probably Shirley Max right that. But you know, even if
it's state prison, your family can come busy. Yeah, when
you go to Fed's, you're around the whole country. They
don't even tell you where you're going. You just get
on a plane and they just ship you. You know.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
It's funny. Is I know a guy that's in the
FEDS right and he calls me a couple of times
a year?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Is he still in the FEDS? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
And I never know.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
So he's been in Minnesota, Yeah, he's been in Pennsylvania.
He's been in New Hampshire. I'll be like, oh, where
are you now? It's a kid I went to college
with that, like we literally would. So there was a
murder in New Hampshire and he had the gun, supplied the.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Gun to the guy that murdered.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
It was like a he was associated with a with
a murder.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
So I think he got like the charge of the
gun charge.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
But because it went from mass to New Hampshire or
vice versa, it was federal because.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
It was over state line on did he get I
think he?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I mean, okay, I haven't seen him since twenty thirteen,
and he probably got it like twenty fifteen. Okay, so
he's actoually done because twenty fifteen he's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
You can, I can look up the murder writing letters.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
No, no, no, no, no. I don't know why he
still calls me. We hooked up in college when I
was like nineteen or twenty a couple of times, and
he was a nice kid, but like definitely like on
the wrong side of you know, he would For me,
it was just like a college hook up, and I
think for him it was like she remembered my number
(06:23):
and he calls me, Oh, what's going Oh you're gonna
like help me when I get out.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I'm like, no, well, clearly you were memorable to him.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I'm memori to everybody, and when you're in there. Yeah,
he's a nice person.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I just think at the time he was like, you know,
in his young twenties, like caught up. Now he's like,
I don't want any parts when I get out, like
I want to just work and you know focus.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I think he has two.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Daughters and he's just like I just that's all I
care about. And I think one of his daughters, her
mom died, so like his daughter doesn't have you know, anybody.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I mean, look, if he wasn't trying to get with
you romantically. I would say, you know, a letter, a
letter to a prisoner, it means so much.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I already fucked him, Okay, it was not good. I
would never fuck him again. But you know, he was
cool people. He never got me in trouble. It was
just like, uh, you know, I think he had friends
that like were at my college. I met him on
campus type of vibe, you know what I mean, and
he just like.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
He didn't go to no, no no.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
But yeah, so like he's one of those people where
you're like, oh, like you feel like he just went
down the wrong path, and like he meant he means, well, yeah,
so like I'll pick up sometimes, but after a while
I'll just stop answering and then he'll get the hint
and then he'll try like a year later, you know,
but I feel.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I kind of just feel bad.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
But yeah, yeah, but at the same time, like you
report you so, like I think I was like telling
him when we were like you know, teenagers, like, bro,
you gotta getr shit together.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Well, you know, he's he's paying the price for what
he did. That's what that's what prison is.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah, I think he's probably like thirty three, maybe thirty two.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I mean he has his life ahead of them. Yeah,
you know he can get out and turn his life around. Yeah,
or he could continue being a criminal and just go back.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I hope he does.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
But anyways, so I know that because every time he
calls me, I never know where he is.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, they may be they don't even tell you.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, he's like and then he's like, I'm like, when
you get out, and he keeps saying all soon soon.
I think it's going to be next year because that
would be eight that would be is that eighty.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Percent used to do eighty five percent?
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, that would be.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
About it, Yeah, because I think the thing happened in
twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah, in county time, you see parole halfway three per cents.
If you get two years, you see parole in one.
In state time, you do the bottom number. So if
you get a four to five, yeah, you have to
do four years and then you see parole. But in
federal you do eighty five percent. So my cousin got
thirteen years and he did almost twelve. Yeah, so you
know it's it's crazy, but yeah, he's doing right. So
(08:41):
you wanted the update on him. There you go. He's
doing fine. He's not committing crimes anymore, and that's the
most important thing. But we did a lot of stuff together,
like a lot. We were kind of reminiscing when I
saw him a couple of weeks ago about different things
that we forgot about. He was like my running partner. Yeah,
now he was the one that was I ran with him,
did a lot of stuff with that I'm not proud of.
So we're both in better places now. So that's good, yes,
(09:05):
you know. But yeah, like I said, I didn't do
anything this weekend. Really, I just hung around the house.
It was the weather was beautiful, and it was nice
because I brought the TV outside in the backyard for
the fh.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Oh nice, that's nice. I had a traumatic experience last night.
I don't even want to speak about it, but I
think it's time we talk about it.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Is this about your Instagram?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
The question is not it being suspended. It's it's why
was it?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
So?
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I don't know what posts though. They don't tell you. No,
they don't tell you a post no.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
So the only I do you see? I posted like
me organized in my bathroom. Yes, okay, so I posted
that and I had edited on TikTok. TikTok is actually
a lot easier to edit on, Like you know, when
we do what we do, I edit videos like every day.
So if I'm not editing here with like my Mac,
with like my editing tools, it's actually easier to edit
on TikTok. So I had saved it down and there
(09:53):
was With TikTok, they let you use So an Instagram,
if you save a save down the thing that you edit, right,
and you have a song on there from Instagram, it
mutes the video.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
But TikTok actually lets you download the video with whatever
audio is on that video.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Oh is that right?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
So I just posted the edited version from TikTok on
both TikTok and Instagram.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
And I didn't like cite like the music.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
It was like Billie Eilish song, and I like forgot
because like the music was already embedded in it, and
I thought it was maybe that. But like I talked
to Gianna and because she's had this happened a couple
of times and she's like, no, but it would have
just been that post, and they like normally they would
just be like, oh, this one post.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Is flagged right for like a copyright infringement.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
They found your whole page offense.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
They took my whole page right, So I'm freaking out.
I had up Tony, our digital guy. I mean, I
have like close to twenty one thousand followers. This is
years of like, you know, content, Like did.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
They take any of your posts down?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
No?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
They emailed me back in urla and later saying sorry,
it was a mistake.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
So I don't know what it could have been. So
what I did do, because I mean I was a
little the eating the Thanksgiving sandwich was that was quite
the video.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
So what I did, which I wasn't I didn't never
want to do, but I actually paid for the verification
because it's much you might you might you want to think.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
About it too.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Oh you already got it.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, it takes like it took like five minutes. You
might want to do it too, because if it fucks
with you, you can lose your whole Instagram.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
And if you're certified. If you're verified, then.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
You can like look like have a number to call
for Instagram if something happened fifteen I know, but Gianna
was like, you write it off on your taxis because.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
It's a work expense. Oh I was thinking about it,
so I did it.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I never wanted to do. I never wanted to buy
a blue check. I always against it. I wanted it naturally,
but I just can't risk with like, I mean, even
the amount of content I have, because I delete a
lot of it from my phone after I post it,
because why would I need it anymore because the Instagram
like holds all of it. So I just don't want
to risk it again. And I got it back within
an hour.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
I mean, it's traumatic, and well, I'm sorry, I understand.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Okay, you remember the days, but you had like a
thousand followers and no one fucked with you.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Actually, someone actually DM me. They were listening recently. They
were listening to an old podcast. I don't know if
it was me and you and me and Becks, and
I think it was me and you, and we were
talking about how I had, like, you know, two thousand followers,
and I was complaining about not being able to post
a link. Yes, yeah, because you needed ten thousand.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
And I was like, all I want is the link
and now anyone could post the link, which is annoying me.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I know.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yeah, but like you have like set what sixteen seventeen thousand, Yeah,
I had close to twenty one thousand like that, I
mean a couple. I remember Billie's wedding, which was four
years ago almost to the date, in October.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
October first, I was pumped.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I got five thousand followers because everyone wanted to see
what was going on that weekend. So I gained like
one thousand followers. So in under four years, I've tripled
my following. And I have a lot of engagement and
it's part of our job.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Well you're very active, Well you got Instagram, Well you
got to be.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
And I used to not have that mentality. I used
to be a selfie girl only. And I was like,
you know what, I got to get it at that
mentality because ours is actually driving the entire show, whereas
if I was just like having a more normal job,
I wouldn't care to post like I do. But I
think it's important for us to engage with the listener
and you know, show our lives and like whatever. And
(13:09):
I have the means to do it, so I take
pride in doing it. But I don't want it to
just be like them, you know, just suspended and they
didn't even give me a reason.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
They just said, hello, sorry, my bad. Basically was the email.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, that's interesting, so you basically disputed it, yes, And
then they came back and said, oh sorry.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yes, And I did end up taking down the original
video that I thought my chicked it off, and I
put up like the like the video without that music
in it.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
So, so how did you discover that it was gone? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
So I was on So I had posted it and
then I was like scrolling on Instagram and I like
went to like check a DM from some I like
a message or something like that, and it's an era
era and it was like I couldn't get any new messages.
Like I kept like trying to like refresh the page
and it said couldn't load, couldn't load. And then all
of a sudden, this thing popped up on my screen
saying that I was suspended, like I'll show it to
you hand on and I was like, what the fuck
(13:58):
did I do? Oh yeah, look it. I submit an appeal.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Oh yeah, what happened? To take another look at your
account if we find And then they took a look
and they found that was really quick for us.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Sunday, I called Gianna was like when it happened to me.
It took like the next morning, so I thought, maybe
when I got up this morning.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Hers get taken down for she doesn't know. Oh, the
same thing happened.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yeah, and it happened to her like three times, so
she finally did the she goes I didn't do the
verification thing.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Then it happened two more times, and I would say,
I have to do it.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Well, I wonder if it's like a conspiracy verify yeah,
to make money.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Because because Tony, our digital guy, said it happened to
a lot of influencers, don't freak.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Out, Oh shit, yeah, what if they do do that
on purpose? They see that someone has a lot of
followers and they're not verified, they're like, what the fuck?
Why aren't you Why aren't you paying up?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
And we've well that And I didn't want to do that,
but like it was because in my eyes, I'm like,
if once I do that, they'll never verify me their
own way, they'll you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Can you still get verified the old fashioned right?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Oh you can, Yes, I believe you can, but it's
just very hard to do. Like I don't I'm not
like I don't need to like throw shade. But like
when billiingly throughout verified, it was so much easier to
tell you that.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
If you look at all the news people, yeah, they
all verified, and they have like five hundred followers. And
that's because early on, if you were just in media.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Do you remember Tory that was an intern and did
stuff down at marketing? I think, so, Okay, she's verified
and she has nine hundred followers because I think she
worked for BuzzFeed or something.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, yeah, I remember that she's been verified four years.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. And then they made it
harder and harder to get verified. I've submitted. I haven't
done it a long time, but I submitted several times.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yeah, and Tony submits for us all the time. Yeah,
but they just they make it way harder than it
needs to be.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I don't get it. We have all the proof. You
could pay for it.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I'm the only loser I know I could.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I mean, I'm just thinking, because like again, you've worked
so hard to get your little following.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Okay, don't minimize my fill I do, so hold on.
I have a little penis and a little follow up.
Everything about me is little.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I gotta go because producer Riley needs to show me something.
I'm so sad that she's leaving us to go on
her vacation.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Oh yeah, she's gonna be gone for a week and
I have.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
It's a lot of work for you and I, but
we'll do it. I want her to have a good time.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
It'll be fine, No, it will.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
But it's just like a lot of moving parts. When
like we're gonna have to like get the brick, I'm
gonna run out to get the phone for like Serena Carpenter.
Then I have to like come back and give him
the name. Then I gotta like edit everything in between
commercials while editing videos in between commercials.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Hey, we did it before when we had no one
I know.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Remember it was just you, me and Billy Flake for
six weeks. Yep, that was a ship show.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
So we can do it. It's just like I haven't
done I hadn't had over a year. I haven't had
to do much on the side that what she does,
right because before when it was he who will not
be named, I was still doing everything.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
We'll have Riley on the air tomorrow at nine to
ten and talk about her big tree up.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, because tomorrow's last day.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, yeah, that's good. Everyone else enjoy it. Today is
the last No, tomorrow is the last day. So these
two days are gonna be great weather wise, and then
it all goes to ship and fall.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Also had birthday to my daddy, Nick Jonas.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I thought you were gonna say your dad, Tony, Nick Jonas. God,
all right, Happy birthday, Nick Jonas. Goodbye,
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