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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, let's get this going here. It is justin
(00:02):
Winnie After Show podcast Thursday. Today is October seventeenth, A
very sad day, Winnie. Liam Payne, I really can't believe it.
We talked about it all show long, but didn't see
this one coming. Honestly, I couldn't. I was at home,
just about to eat dinner and I got a group
text from producer Riley and you and you know, saying
like is this real? And I can't believe it, Liam Payne.
(00:25):
And then it's very much real. He's dead, thirty one
years old. He fell up a hotel balcony. We don't
know what was going on. He was definitely probably under
the influence, right, we can just say that. I mean
there was. He was acting erratic. Whether it was drugs
or mental or both mental health, we don't know, but
he was acting erratic. They were concerned. The manager called
(00:45):
nine to one one and say something was going on,
and yeah, it's crazy. I mean, he was just posting.
There were pictures of him in the hotel lobby. So again,
very sad. That's the main thing. Loss of life is
never easy. Death is very very difficult. And you know,
I know that you know we met them before, but
we didn't like friends with them. But I think more
(01:06):
than that, these artists, their music, it really resonates with people.
So when we lose an artist that we grew up
listening to or love their music, it really hits us. Yeah,
you know, and you know, I know that I'm older
than you, so you know, I know One Direction we
played their music all the time. They came in here.
I met them, I met Liam. You met all of them, Yeah,
they all came in.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
It was here I only met I met Liam and
Nile separately.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yes, yeah, and yeah, they came in. They had to
shut down the whole building. There were kids screaming girls,
I should say, around the whole building. Was a crazy thing,
and I was like, this is wild. Wow. But you
grew up listening to One Direction.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah. They came out when I was in high school,
and I remember, like, you know, I was like going
into college. I'm like, oh, i'm too, I'm too cool
for the boy band scene. But it's funny, like it
didn't take long. Like they had good music. They were
quintessential pop right and they were and I liked too
that they didn't have to dance. They were just kind
of chilling. You know, they didn't have choreography. They just
kind of saying and you kind of knew. Like at
(02:02):
one point Liam was kind of the lead singer, and
then it was maybe Harry. But really it's one of
the only boy bands where they all had.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Soulo parts and a super talented.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, like every song you could he hear. You heard
everyone's voice individual individually. And I remember my sister and
I and her friends went to their Gillette show. I
must have been like, I don't know, twenty thirteen. Maybe
he was singing away and we were in the nosebleeds
and I remember my sister was like sixteen or like
seventeen at the time, and I was like twenty, and
(02:32):
I was telling all my friends I was taking her
and her friends even though they could have taken themselves.
They were like, literally, seventeen, you.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Just wanted to go. I just wanted to go, and
I wanted to go see the show.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
And then, like to your point, when you know, we
met him a couple of times. He came to the
studio and then he came to kiss concert. You know,
he was really sweet. Even though he had so much success.
He treated he treated his soul career a little differently
like I felt, I felt like, you know, he understood
that that success was not going to be necessarily his
own success. And then I will say recently because on
(03:04):
the internet, I've seen a lot of situations where people
are kind of making fun of him, and I feel
bad because he told a lot of mistruth and I
think it's because he was under the.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Informance he was. He was a definite addict, for sure.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
There was that that.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
You know, who told a lot of lies. You My
whole life was a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
You know, you know that interview you were talking about
where he was reference that Simon made the band around him.
After that, he literally came out and said he was
like drunk on that interview and that you know, he
went to rehab after that because he was like lying
through his teeth. Yeah, and so the people fact checked
him a lot and they and it was just it
was sad because I think he didn't do necessarily well
with the band dismembering like some of the other guys
(03:45):
did well.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I mean not just him, but you know, besides, you
have Harry right, Nile's done well.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I was actually done good. And I think anyone thought.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah, Zane kind of had one song R and B. Yeah,
I know, but he doesn't. Nothing's really popped off. And
then Louis. You know, but listen, he's got his net worth.
I looked it up. I'm like fifty million dollars and that,
and you know he.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Wrote, like to your point on the show, he wrote
a lot of one direction songs. That's money's forever. Indeed,
you know, the five of them are still making one
direction money ten years later.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, so I'm so tragic to about his son. Yeah,
he's only seven, seven years old.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I hate to say it, justin when the fuck has
he been with bear everywhere?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
But I don't know the details on that.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I'm just saying from his social media and he's dating
this young twenty five year old girl that lives in
Miami and like, but he's based in London and then
that's where.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
He'sb I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I don't know. Still his dad, no, no, no, no,
it's sad, but I'm saying I think that like it's been,
he's been. I know he's sober. In twenty twenty three,
by fake he relapsed.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
He was he was, we used to say, and again
not to speculate. It sounds like he was on a
vicious run. That's what we call it. Yeah, you know,
he didn't really look well, he was acting radically sashing
thing and he goes.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
We saw him with fans. Yeah, I mean, I don't
don't even know what it's. I mean I don't. I
haven't ever really seen someone high off, like a narcotic
like that in person. And I was like, oh my god, like,
what the fuck is you?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Can you can just tell?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
And again it's a reminder to everybody, you know, especially
those that are that are struggling with addiction. You know,
you can always reach out for help. I think that's
you know, but some people don't want help. That's the thing.
You have to be ready to receive that help, that's
the thing.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Well it makes me sad because you know, he was
with his girlfriend and then she left a few days ago,
but he was posting as if she was there like
that day. You know how he's posting like not in
real time on Snapchat. And then I'm like, so was
he literally alone? Like did he have no one with him?
And he jumped or fell? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I don't know. That's the weird thing. You try to
think about what happened. Was it a fall? Did he
purposely do it? It's like, we don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
He said he's been suicidal before. But also, you don't
need to be suicidal to be so fucked up that
you lose your balance and you fall.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah. O.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
And because you think third floor is not necessarily like
necessarily if you won't you could survive, it's not I think.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Oh it was forty forty five feet.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
So my friend doctor Joe I talked to him yesterday
and he said, you could survive that, but if you
land the wrong way, you're Yeah, it's all.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
About how you land. Yeah you could. You could fall
ten feet and land the wrong way. Yeah, you just
don't know. But anyway, rest in peace to Liam Payne.
I think we did a good job of kind of
paying tribute to him. We played some one Direction song,
some old clips. I went into the archives and yeah,
more details are going to come out on this.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
This is not going to go away. This is going
to be a huge.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Going to keep on raveling. And then the other thing
is the Harry Styles rumors. We don't know if that's
true or not.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
But I don't know that's true. I just thought that
Sean Menders and Joe Jonas's singles weren't doing that.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Well, yeah, that's what I thought too, But they both
moved their release dates from yesterday and then the SNL.
You know, SNL released their full lineup of musical guests
in October twenty six, which is next weekend. Is blank.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I want to text my SNL plug and ask you
should I'm curious if he'll tell me. Yeah, you should,
you know, he wrote, you know, so these don't know.
He's been on the show. My cousin, his boyfriend, Jimmy
is a writer for SNL. Very funny guy. He's come
on the show a few times. He wrote that espresso.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Oh really the Ariana, Yeah he wrote it. Oh that's cool.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, he's such a such a great We.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Should have men again when he comes back to Boston.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, I know, well they come along because you know,
his family lives it here and then most of my
family's here.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
That's a cool talking point that he wrote that, because
that's that stories everywhere that that audio.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
He also wrote another viral one like last week, which
I forget which one it was for, But yeah, I
know he's he's super funny.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
That's really cool. Yeah, anyway, that'll do it for us.
We have to jump into a jingle ball meeting with
the whole staff. Those are always fun. And uh, that's it.
You know. We'll be back tomorrow Tomorrow, Friday with the
Friday Show and uh with jingle ball tickets, the Jackpot
and also a new Bruno Madras song, I'm So Uchy tomorrow.
So lots to get to everybody, and again, Rest in
(07:45):
peace to Liam Payne, thirty one years old. Too young anyways,
So yeah,
All right, let's get this going here. It is justin
(00:02):
Winnie After Show podcast Thursday. Today is October seventeenth, A
very sad day, Winnie. Liam Payne, I really can't believe it.
We talked about it all show long, but didn't see
this one coming. Honestly, I couldn't. I was at home,
just about to eat dinner and I got a group
text from producer Riley and you and you know, saying
like is this real? And I can't believe it, Liam Payne.
(00:25):
And then it's very much real. He's dead, thirty one
years old. He fell up a hotel balcony. We don't
know what was going on. He was definitely probably under
the influence, right, we can just say that. I mean
there was. He was acting erratic. Whether it was drugs
or mental or both mental health, we don't know, but
he was acting erratic. They were concerned. The manager called
(00:45):
nine to one one and say something was going on,
and yeah, it's crazy. I mean, he was just posting.
There were pictures of him in the hotel lobby. So again,
very sad. That's the main thing. Loss of life is
never easy. Death is very very difficult. And you know,
I know that you know we met them before, but
we didn't like friends with them. But I think more
(01:06):
than that, these artists, their music, it really resonates with people.
So when we lose an artist that we grew up
listening to or love their music, it really hits us. Yeah,
you know, and you know, I know that I'm older
than you, so you know, I know One Direction we
played their music all the time. They came in here.
I met them, I met Liam. You met all of them, Yeah,
they all came in.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
It was here I only met I met Liam and
Nile separately.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yes, yeah, and yeah, they came in. They had to
shut down the whole building. There were kids screaming girls,
I should say, around the whole building. Was a crazy thing,
and I was like, this is wild. Wow. But you
grew up listening to One Direction.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah. They came out when I was in high school,
and I remember, like, you know, I was like going
into college. I'm like, oh, i'm too, I'm too cool
for the boy band scene. But it's funny, like it
didn't take long. Like they had good music. They were
quintessential pop right and they were and I liked too
that they didn't have to dance. They were just kind
of chilling. You know, they didn't have choreography. They just
kind of saying and you kind of knew. Like at
(02:02):
one point Liam was kind of the lead singer, and
then it was maybe Harry. But really it's one of
the only boy bands where they all had.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Soulo parts and a super talented.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, like every song you could he hear. You heard
everyone's voice individual individually. And I remember my sister and
I and her friends went to their Gillette show. I
must have been like, I don't know, twenty thirteen. Maybe
he was singing away and we were in the nosebleeds
and I remember my sister was like sixteen or like
seventeen at the time, and I was like twenty, and
(02:32):
I was telling all my friends I was taking her
and her friends even though they could have taken themselves.
They were like, literally, seventeen, you.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Just wanted to go. I just wanted to go, and
I wanted to go see the show.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
And then, like to your point, when you know, we
met him a couple of times. He came to the
studio and then he came to kiss concert. You know,
he was really sweet. Even though he had so much success.
He treated he treated his soul career a little differently
like I felt, I felt like, you know, he understood
that that success was not going to be necessarily his
own success. And then I will say recently because on
(03:04):
the internet, I've seen a lot of situations where people
are kind of making fun of him, and I feel
bad because he told a lot of mistruth and I
think it's because he was under the.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Informance he was. He was a definite addict, for sure.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
There was that that.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
You know, who told a lot of lies. You My
whole life was a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
You know, you know that interview you were talking about
where he was reference that Simon made the band around him.
After that, he literally came out and said he was
like drunk on that interview and that you know, he
went to rehab after that because he was like lying
through his teeth. Yeah, and so the people fact checked
him a lot and they and it was just it
was sad because I think he didn't do necessarily well
with the band dismembering like some of the other guys
(03:45):
did well.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I mean not just him, but you know, besides, you
have Harry right, Nile's done well.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I was actually done good. And I think anyone thought.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah, Zane kind of had one song R and B. Yeah,
I know, but he doesn't. Nothing's really popped off. And
then Louis. You know, but listen, he's got his net worth.
I looked it up. I'm like fifty million dollars and that,
and you know he.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Wrote, like to your point on the show, he wrote
a lot of one direction songs. That's money's forever. Indeed,
you know, the five of them are still making one
direction money ten years later.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, so I'm so tragic to about his son. Yeah,
he's only seven, seven years old.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I hate to say it, justin when the fuck has
he been with bear everywhere?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
But I don't know the details on that.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I'm just saying from his social media and he's dating
this young twenty five year old girl that lives in
Miami and like, but he's based in London and then
that's where.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
He'sb I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I don't know. Still his dad, no, no, no, no,
it's sad, but I'm saying I think that like it's been,
he's been. I know he's sober. In twenty twenty three,
by fake he relapsed.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
He was he was, we used to say, and again
not to speculate. It sounds like he was on a
vicious run. That's what we call it. Yeah, you know,
he didn't really look well, he was acting radically sashing
thing and he goes.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
We saw him with fans. Yeah, I mean, I don't
don't even know what it's. I mean I don't. I
haven't ever really seen someone high off, like a narcotic
like that in person. And I was like, oh my god, like,
what the fuck is you?
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Can you can just tell?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
And again it's a reminder to everybody, you know, especially
those that are that are struggling with addiction. You know,
you can always reach out for help. I think that's
you know, but some people don't want help. That's the thing.
You have to be ready to receive that help, that's
the thing.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Well it makes me sad because you know, he was
with his girlfriend and then she left a few days ago,
but he was posting as if she was there like
that day. You know how he's posting like not in
real time on Snapchat. And then I'm like, so was
he literally alone? Like did he have no one with him?
And he jumped or fell? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I don't know. That's the weird thing. You try to
think about what happened. Was it a fall? Did he
purposely do it? It's like, we don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
He said he's been suicidal before. But also, you don't
need to be suicidal to be so fucked up that
you lose your balance and you fall.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah. O.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
And because you think third floor is not necessarily like
necessarily if you won't you could survive, it's not I think.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Oh it was forty forty five feet.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
So my friend doctor Joe I talked to him yesterday
and he said, you could survive that, but if you
land the wrong way, you're Yeah, it's all.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
About how you land. Yeah you could. You could fall
ten feet and land the wrong way. Yeah, you just
don't know. But anyway, rest in peace to Liam Payne.
I think we did a good job of kind of
paying tribute to him. We played some one Direction song,
some old clips. I went into the archives and yeah,
more details are going to come out on this.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
This is not going to go away. This is going
to be a huge.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Going to keep on raveling. And then the other thing
is the Harry Styles rumors. We don't know if that's
true or not.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
But I don't know that's true. I just thought that
Sean Menders and Joe Jonas's singles weren't doing that.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Well, yeah, that's what I thought too, But they both
moved their release dates from yesterday and then the SNL.
You know, SNL released their full lineup of musical guests
in October twenty six, which is next weekend. Is blank.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I want to text my SNL plug and ask you
should I'm curious if he'll tell me. Yeah, you should,
you know, he wrote, you know, so these don't know.
He's been on the show. My cousin, his boyfriend, Jimmy
is a writer for SNL. Very funny guy. He's come
on the show a few times. He wrote that espresso.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Oh really the Ariana, Yeah he wrote it. Oh that's cool.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, he's such a such a great We.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Should have men again when he comes back to Boston.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, I know, well they come along because you know,
his family lives it here and then most of my
family's here.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
That's a cool talking point that he wrote that, because
that's that stories everywhere that that audio.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
He also wrote another viral one like last week, which
I forget which one it was for, But yeah, I
know he's he's super funny.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
That's really cool. Yeah, anyway, that'll do it for us.
We have to jump into a jingle ball meeting with
the whole staff. Those are always fun. And uh, that's it.
You know. We'll be back tomorrow Tomorrow, Friday with the
Friday Show and uh with jingle ball tickets, the Jackpot
and also a new Bruno Madras song, I'm So Uchy tomorrow.
So lots to get to everybody, and again, Rest in
(07:45):
peace to Liam Payne, thirty one years old. Too young anyways,
So yeah,
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