We Do(n't) Podcast Episode 34: We Struggled This Week

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Welcome to the We Don't Podcast,starring husband and wife Mojo from Mojo in
the Morning and his better half Chelseaon this episode coming up on this episode

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of the weedone podcast. Sometimes it'seasy and sometimes it's not. This is
not going to be an easy podcast, just like marriage. This was our
toughest week that we've had as amarried couple since we started doing the We
Don't Podcast. How many episodes Ibelieve this is thirty four, I don't
know, something like that, soit's been a while. This has been
a good streak. It was foundto be bad. Let's start it well,

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all right, all right, allright, without further delay, here
are Mojo and Chelsea. All right, we'll get into that coming up here
in just a little bit. Whyour marriage was kind of struggling this week.

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I do want to bring up onething. This is an interesting one
that we are in, like ourthirties or so, as far as episodes
are concerned, you and I aregoing to be married for a monumental thirty
years this year, and I thinkwe should renew our vows. No,
why not? Because we have saidthis before. I think it's bad luck.

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Why do you say that? Ithink tattooing each other's names on each
other as bad luck. And Ithink renewing of vows is bad luck because
and by the way, I wantedto renew our vows. I know a
long time of marriage number five,right or wedding number not marriage number five?
This is married. But yeah,you're five, you're five. No

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renewing of the vows this year forour thirtieth wedding anniversary. So cross that
off your list. And I'm gonnacross that off. And now I actually
got to get you a gift.You really don't though, No, we
don't do gifts each two gifts.But you don't think though that we should
do something for each other for thirtyyears. That's a pretty big amount of
years. Go to dinner. Iactually find it high by each other.

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Well, I mean we can alldo that. We can do that,
But then when they find out howmany years, they're going to be like
shocked by that. But see thatsociety putting the pressure on us to do
something that other people want us todo. So I think we just do
what we want to do and dowhat we've done forever, which is nothing
got as far I know. Ijust feel like it's kind of boring.

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I actually want to have pomp andcircumstance and something kind of cool because we
had a good marriage, like agood wedding. Well, you have a
big anniversary coming up next year,so you can celebrate that all the pomp
and circumstances. I don't like thatbecause that's what Well, now I want.
I want us you and I we'vehad you know, this is pretty
big. I can tell you this. I've worked with so many people over

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years and have had family like myparents never lasted twenty five years or thirty
years. They lasted only twenty fiveyears. And then my mom passed.
Your parents, how many years they'vebeen married? Well longer than that actually
has. Okay, so now Iknow that that just blows it right there.
All right. We had a reallytough week this week. It was

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a difficult one and it stems froma couple of different things, but one
specifically was you have finally had enoughand you are tired of me not taking
care of my health. Yep,I've had enough. What was it that

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finally set you over the edge,that made you said this is it?
So you a couple months ago youwere feeling faint, It was actually on
my birthday, and uh, wecalled your doctor that day because we were
worried that, you know, youcould be having a heart attack or a
stroke or something. I thought Iwas having a stroke. My actually I

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felt faint and I could not feellike my job, my job, like
my job job. So the doctorcame over. Excuse me. Everything was
fine. You went into your cardiologist, you had test done, everything looked
great. But then they said,do I mean, woman takes some matter.

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I'm like trying to nicely, ja, you like to point out everything
that that that we do. I'llback you here for a second and I'll
finish a little bit. Call thedoctor. You want to start this all
over again? No, no,no, no, So we call the
doctor. Doctor. Doctor came overyours and my guy to collogist, correct
it, came over just to kindof check to see that I was having

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On a Sunday, and then Monday, the next day, you went into
your cardiologist and you had tests donewith a car idiologist and everything looked good.
But you are a hypochondriac, andso you wanted to and rightly so,
you had a big surgery a coupleof years ago. So he did
tell you that there was this onetest that you could do, the Cadillac

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of All tests for your heart,And so you had it done on Tuesday
months months later, and you calledme the day before and you said,
listen, it's going to cost thisamount of money. Are you okay with
that? And I said, ofcourse, I'm okay with that, of
course. But I also want youto start taking care of yourself. I

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want you to start working out.I want you to start watching what you're
eating. I want, like,it's totally fine if you want to do
this big, huge test, butwhat are you doing to be held accountable
on your part of making yourself healthyand making yourself better? And the reason
that I'm calling you out on thatis because for the last year I have

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really worked on my health and I'vework done what I'm putting in my body
and working out and changing my habitsand which you're doing that, because did
you have like a motivation? I'mjust getting old. I mean, I
you know, I wasn't happy withwhere I was, okay a year ago,
because I always feel like people havea motivation for when they start working

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out or start exercising and start losingweight. Yeah, I just wasn't happy,
okay, And I don't like howI feel in the morning when I
get up and my joints heard.And so for women, it's a lot
of you know, there's hormones involvedin all of that. So I was
looking at the whole picture in adifferent way. But it just brought up

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the fact that you don't do anythingto take care of yourself. You don't
you come home, you work verylong hours, you're very stressed out.
You come home and you lay onthe couch and you don't move until we
do something for dinner, and thenyou get up, and then you go
right back to the couch and youlay there and you do your work.
And I get it. I getyour tired, I get your stressed.
I get all of that, butit's just not going to Your health is

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taking a back seat. Yeah,And her point of bringing this up is
because this week was kind of like, all right, you're going to get
this test on. When you getthis test on, then you're going to
get focused on taking care of yourself. Okay, yes, I'm going to
do that. I go get thetest on. They let me leave from

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the test. I asked them,I said, is there anything wrong?
And they said, you wouldn't bewalking out of here. If something was
really seriously wrong, your doctor willget a test and if and this was
honestly one of those tests that ifthere was even the slightest thing wrong with
my heart, they would have beenable to detect it. If there was
a plot, if there was apotential for you know, a heart attack,

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a blockage, whatever, they couldfigure it out on this particular test.
So got the test, on leftthe hospital, came home. Man,
can't wait here for my doctor.Hopefully he gives me good news.
The next day, you're listening tothe radio and I ordered Chick fil A
on the radio, and you hadsent me a text message and it just

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said I'm done enough. I can'tdo it. Well, the first I
said, you need to have atalk when you get home, and then
you said, well, you justcan't text me that, you need to
let me know, And then Iunloaded on you. Which, by the
way, I will say this toyou. If I was an airline pilot,
or if I was in the doctorthat did my surgery, would you

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send that text while I was eitherflying an airplane or in the middle of
somebody's surgery. Well, if youwere a surgeon, I would have no
access into the operating room. Andif you were a pilot, I have
no access into the cockpit. Butbecause I could get Delta Wi Fi.
But because you are a radio DJand basically give your whole life out on

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what you're doing minute by minute,I have access into You're lucky you didn't.
I have access into the studio andwhat you're doing and the not wise
decisions you're making. Now, mindyou he did. I don't know if
a lot of you know this.He did have a nine and a half
hour open heart surgery where and thatnight, you know, he was alone

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because it was COVID, so heonly had his nurse nurses that were there
with him. But I was onthe phone with him that first night and
he was crying to me and promisingme that he was going to change,
he was never going to be putin this position again. And he orders
fucking Chick fil A the next morning, Like I, Yeah, I did

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send you a text that I wasjust done. It's over over and really
our marriage is over over Chick filA, well over, Even though if
it wasn't going to end over anything, Luke would probably be our son would
be like, well, yeah,well, I hope your meal was worth

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it. I was. So wewere on the air, and I will
still remember this. It was theat like nine o'clock in the morning,
and I'm about to go into atopic and I have you know, anybody
that listens to our radio show.Here's the you know, you know,
Mojo in the Morning now or whateverthe heck it is. And I looked
on on my phone as I'm aboutto say something, I see message from

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Chelsea. I'm like, oh,and I click on it and says we
need to talk tonight. And thatdoesn't mean we need to talk while I'm
naked in bed tonight. That meansyou're going to get your ass chewed out
tonight about something. I'm like,going, what did I do this morning?
Probably is not right to sit thereand text you, you know,

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my emotional How often do I dothat? Though, by the way,
very rare, and that's why youdid it. I was like, what
the But I was just so reallyupset, yeah, really upset about it.
Okay. So the thing that andI love that you care about me

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like I do. I truly loveit. And there have been so many
times where I've had conversations with doctorsand stuff over time where they've cared about
me and said things. And Idon't know what it is, but there
are you know, and I lovemy kids, and I love you,

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and I love my family and friendsand all those people. But you guys
are my priority. And I justdon't know what it is. Maybe I
just don't love myself. But allyou've as basically asked as me as a
husband, is you want me totake care of myself and eat healthier,
and you want me to do thirtyminutes of exercise every single day. Thirty

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minutes are just walking? And doesthem be every single day? Like start
off three times a week, giveyourself a goal of three times a week
of getting walking outside for thirty minutes. Or we have a treadmill in our
basement, Get on the treadmill.Yeah, oh, we actually went out
and bought a treadmill. This week. We did well. We're replacing our
twelve year old treadmill with the onethat we bought. But yes, it's

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like, just please, I don'tknow what I have to do. And
it's, you know, sad thatI have to beg you to do something
for your health. But here weare well, I am definitely awake to

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the fact that I do need todo this. I don't know what it
is that I will. I don'tknow. Maybe I just need to schedule
it or something, because then ifI schedule it and don't do it,
then it's more apparent to me thatI didn't do it, even though I
should just realize I've been sitting onthe couch, you know, for three
hours or taking it literally, ourcouch has an intention. He lays on

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his side, and the couch hasan intention of his body. So when
I die, you will at leasthave something to mourn me with. I'm
gonna throw out the couch because you'veruined it. Well, yeah, that's
so. That made it a toughweek. And then you and I got
into arguments over that upon other things, and it became a very stressful way.

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Well that was one thing that setsoff the fire, and then there
are other things, and then thisand this and this, and it just
adds and adds in ads. Yeah, it's interesting because if we haven't been
to therapy in a while, andI actually said I think we should go
back to therapy, and you're justnot into going back to therapy. Right
now. No, I'm not.I not right now. And I will

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go with you one time, forsure, if you want to sit there
and discuss a couple of issues thatwe have with a therapist. But I
also I feel like it's banging myhead up against the wall with the same
thing. Like it's almost he couldpull his notes out. Excuse me,
Mike, he could pull the notesout. And we've been here like,

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oh, we've visited this before,and why have we not learned from what
he said before? But I thinkthere are times it's like going in and
taking a tutoring class or going toa tutor. Sometimes you need to have
things revisited, you know. Imean it's like, why do we get
why do we get our oil changedevery three thousand or five thousand miles because

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that's what you're you're maintaining. Iunderstand that's maintenance. But if it's the
same thing again and again, tome, it's just frustrating. It's the
same thing. Well what is itthat's called insanity? Right? So for
thirty years we've been we've been goingthrough it. And I mean, I

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I don't know. I I thinkthat I go to therapy and I and
I haven't been to my therapist ina while, and maybe me going back
to him, which I am goingto go, is going to help me.
But I feel like there's been somuch stuff that has come up with
our boys, so much stuff thathas come up, you know, with

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my work, and now it's likeit's it's undoubted, it's like the circle
that goes around now our marriage iscoming back up again with certain things that
just you are frustrated buy and thencertain things that I get frustrated by,
and so sometimes So do you thinkthere's ever a point in our marriage that
we would get to where we canjust have a conversation with each other and

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work it out that way, ordo you think you need a therapist to
come in. I think we dothat. I think we have done that
for the last you know, fiveyears or so since we've gone to therapy.
But I think that sometimes you needto go back and get and revisit,
you know, I really do.I'm a big I'm an advocate of

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I think you should go get yourfollow up appointments done, which I get
on you all the time because Idon't think you always go do your follow
up medical appointments. Well, thedifference between you and I in the medical
arena is I'm not a hypochondriac,and I go when I get the things
that I need to get done,and I don't need to go all of

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the time. Yeah, and Ilove my gynecologist, but I don't love
him as much as you love mygynecologist. And you need to go see
my guy ecologists all of the timeand that, But that's for you,
and I think that that is okay. If that's for you, you shouldn't
impose on me what you want todo, nor do I'm not telling you,

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Hey, guess what. Maybe bythe way, Mike Guy, a
cologist does tell you you should beworking out and wanting to want you and
you don't listen to him with thateither, So like I don't tell you,
you know, maybe you should notgo to the doctor so many times
it's just a running out or youknow, like I let you do that,

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let me do me, I letyou do you, you let me
do me? You know that?And I bring this up only because this
is my reference of why I goto the doctor all the time. That
my mom knew she was not wellfor many, many many months, and
your dad knew that as well,prior to her going to get checked out

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that she had cancer. And Ithink that it would have been better she
would have gone worry about you.I do not have cancer. I don't
have a lump somewhere that I'm ignoring. I don't have I go and get
my yearly check up every year,and so I'm not ignoring anything. I
promise. As a matter of fact, I go see other kinds of doctors

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and I'm doing other I get bloodwork done every six weeks right now,
because I'm, you know, doingstuff with my hormones. I'm like,
I'm checking a lot of things.I'm on top of I'm working out,
I'm watching what I'm eating. Notsaying that something can happen to me,
because it certainly can, but Idefinitely am being very proactive in that arena.
And so that's why I am concernedabout your health because I see you

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not You had a hute, youhad a nine and a half hour open
heart surgery, and you promised methat you would never get to that point
again. And I feel that weare inching our way closer and closer to
something catastrophically happening to you again.And who you're not that that you were
when you hide your open heart surgeryagain. You know you're older now and

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it's just you know, it worriesme, okay, really worries me.
All right, I will. Iwill work on getting more exercise. I've
told you that already, and Imean it not for you, but I'm
gonna do it for myself. Andbut I do think that therapy is a
good thing. So I tell youwhat, I'll go to therapy if you

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start working out. Okay, done? Done? For how how many minutes
of walking? I do You'll dothat many minutes of therapy? Well,
I mean, come on, I'mjust kidding. Speaking of therapy, you
sell therapy. It's called TikTok.You look at TikTok all the time and
come up with, oh my god, there so there was this therapist that

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said this on TikTok and no.But then there's also you know, books
that you read like you like todo a lot of research, and you
came across something that you wanted toshare with everybody that is either in a
relationship or marriage or in a marriageor about to get married. This is
actually kind of an interesting one.So how it goes is like this in

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a marriage, the man has tobe the provider, the rock at least
to her, and then she needsto be completely trusting of him. So
to become really intimate, you haveto trust each other completely. Otherwise you
hold back and it feels unnatural anduncomfortable. You have to be conscious of
protecting yourself. So the husband hasto provide that security so the wife can

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abandon herself to the relationship. Thenthey both are feeling right. If she
has to worry, can I trusthim? It will never work. So
the man has to be able tobe the provider, the rock, the
provider of like not a financial provider, but to provide security, to do

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for her, for her to havethe place to completely give yourself to him.
Yeah, and in that if theman does that, there's her trusting
him and then she gives of herselfand fully gives of herself. What if
that is broken? Can it everbe rebuilt? And when I mean that

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is it could be something as brokenas there's infidelity that breaks it on either
one's part, or it could bein our case with me where I haven't
been there and we've talked about thaton prior podcasts. To be your protector

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when things have come up. Yeah, So I believe that if there is
infidelity or let's just go even youbrought up infidelity, if there is infidelity
on either side, if both partieswant to work on it, I think
that yes, our relationship can berepaired. But both parties have to want
to work on it, and Ithink it will be very, very hard.

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It's going to be an uphill battle. But I know a couple of
people who have been able to getthrough it and their marriage is better than
it ever was before. I alsoknow people who chose, like knew that
they just couldn't do it, andso they ended their relationship. I think
that also if you decide, Ithink one huge key is if there is

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infidelity in a relationship, that youdon't tell a lot of people, especially
if you want to work on it, because then it changes everyone's view of
that person. I think it wouldbe very important then to have a therapist
and that's who you really share everythingwith, because if you're going to want
to open yourself back up to thatperson, you want people to support you

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and to not not support you.Well. I think that when you tell
other people, that's when people givetheir opinions. Yeah, and I think
sometimes it's hard to take back theopinion that has been given, for sure,
And that's happened to friends of ourswhere friends of ours have gone through
this and somebody says something and thenright away you form an opinion and you're

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like, well, you know,which is very interesting. I don't know
about you, but I will say, as I've gotten older, when I
hear of people who have infidelity intheir relationships, I tend to say,
and I don't know if you've noticedthis recently, but I'll say, you
know, I'm not in their marriage, so I can't judge, and I

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because I don't. First of all, you don't know if they're going to
work through it right and who behindclosed doors, everything is so different,
nothing is as it seems behind closeddoors. I have. That's one thing
I have realized as well, whenI've gotten to this age. What do
you think of people who there issome sort of an infidelity in a relation

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ship And it doesn't have to bethe physical sexual infidelity, but it can
be some other forms of infidelity andthey just say enough and they cut it
off and say I'm done, Ileave, whether it be infidelity through sexual
infidelity, financial infidelity, or somebody'syou know, gambling or spending money or

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whatever, or it could be youknow, well, it's trust that's broken.
Trust. Yeah, so it's trustthat's broken. So you or I'm
not saying you you, but sothe trust was broken, it was severed,
and it has to be rebuilt.Can it be rebuilt? You know,
some people it can, some peopleit can't, and some people it's
not worth it, you know,because I think sometimes when it can't be

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rebuilt, a lot of cases it'sit can't be rebuilt because one or both
of the people probably didn't want tobe in the marriage anyway. I mean,
I think that I think that thereis definite, you know, times
where if the relationship has gone throughsome kind of a trauma like that,

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I think that there's probably in theback of one of their heads or both
of their heads where it was like, you know what, I wasn't as
happy in this relationship as I thoughtI was. Yeah, And I think
it's also important. But it's reallyimportant to remember though, too, Like
you go back, how many peopledo you think when they got married on
their wedding day, they thought weshouldn't be doing this probably a lot more

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than you know, right, Idon't know. I think you have to
go back to the day that yougot married and go back to those feelings
and think to yourself, okay,because you don't marry someone thinking I'm going
to divorce you. I didn't marryyou thinking I was going to divorce you.
I married you thinking you were thelove of my life and I wanted
to be with you for the restof my life. But did you at

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all think they maybe this was notthe right thing for us to do a
thing moment when we got the daywe got married. Yeah, no,
do I remember your dad actually triedto talk to you. He didn't try
to talk me out of it,But my dad said when we were walking
down the aisle, is you don'thave to do this, and if you
don't want to do this, wecan turn around and walk out of here,
and I will support you. Likehe wasn't saying I don't want you

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to marry him. I think he'sa horrible person. I thought that that
was the most amazing thing a dadcould say. You know that he supports
me regardless no matter what you did, even though he's paying for all this
stuff. Exactly Yeah, No,I thought that that was such an amazing
Do you ever wish you would havejust walked right out all the time said

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get to uhah, right out ofhere. It took us from the church
to the reception hall. Would youhave gotten into that or would you have
gotten into your dad's van? Iwould have gotten into my jab. I
would have ran out of there.I've done a bike, Go in your
dad's brown Ford van and start headinghome. Where's ChEls? Yeah, i'd

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be driving your mom home. LikeMary, come with me, We're going
to take you back over to Timberline. Yeah. Yeah, I find it
interesting what you you know read andwhat you know you had kind of been
really you know, that's very commonthough too. By the way, Yeah,

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I think it's such a simple concept, but it is so common that
that happens. If you don't mindme sharing this, My therapist Dennis has
said when I've talked to him aboutsometimes a lack of intimacy that you and
I have in our relationship, hehas said that it stems from a lot
of that that I haven't been therefor you. And well, because for

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women it's more than just physical.Yeah, it's emotional. And I said
to him. I said, justwait a second. If I would have
just stuck up to my brother,she would have been See, it's not
so much about that. And it'salso it's not just you know, it's
not sticking up for me as muchas it is providing that safe space where
you know that you were somebody that'sgoing to be exactly, not with me

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exactly. And so when that groundis shaky, and when and when and
just I'm just using this as anexample for us, when then I feel
I have I'm my own protector andI'm my own stable ground, and which
I am. And that's okay,but that gets it's really exhausting holding your

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own rock and being your own shelterall the time. It's really nice every
once in a while if you arein a committed relationship and you are married
to someone, it's nice to knowthat they can hold that with you.
You know, you should never havemarried me because you had all the clues
that you needed. Okay, wenton our wedding day, it was raining,
and I didn't hold an umbrella foryou to walk into the he literally

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we yeah, we were we weregoing to our not a reception, to
our hotel room. From our receptionand we were drove in our car and
it was pouring rain and he getsout of the car and he runs into
the hotel and it's an old hotelin downtown too soon, and so it's

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all on streets. It's not likethe circular driveway where it's covered. Were
you pull up by val a,No, you park out on the street.
And this man saw me get getmyself out of the car in my
big wedding dress and he runs outwith an umbrella and said did you get
married today? And I said Idid, And he said where is your
husband? He's in the hotel checkingus in. Yeah, so he,

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you know, walked me in andit was very kind and we had a
threesome. Whech I should have Ishould have gotten I gone to his room
that night. But yeah, hewas Robert Redford or whatever was he proposal.
He was a hero, all right. So we each have a question
for each other to ask and toanswer as we end this. We don't

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podcast, it's not over yet.Go ahead with your question. What do
you think are my best qualities?Jesus Christ, she's got a memory of
steal. I think your best qualitiesare that your cleanliness, your godliness.

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Now I would say that your bestqualities are your faithfulness, uh to not
just me, but to my family, meeting my boys and my extended you
know family, our extended family.You have you know, you have my
back. You talk about that whatwe talked about about being the rock when

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it hits the fan for me,you're you are my number one supporter and
number one confidant and you're my generalyou know. But I think your best
quality is you have one of thegreatest hearts I've ever seen. You come
across to some people as that youare very strong and that you you know,

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you can you kind of fight foryourself, but realistically, you have
the greatest heart I've ever seen.Like people, your friends and your family
turned to you first. We hadsomething with Luke yesterday and he needed to
be embraced and he you. Hewent to you to be the person that

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embraced him because he needed to beheld for a moment because he was really
struggling, and he didn't go tome, Which does that bother you?
No made me feel because I wouldgo to you, you know, and
that's who you are. So Ithink that's your greatest quality is that you
have. You know, you're you'rean amazing, amazing person. Well,

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my question, I'm scared. Whatdid you learn a little too late?
Is that the whole bit a littleby the way, this was pulled way
before we even knew it the pot. We pulled this randomly out of a

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out of a box. What didI learn a little too late? Yeah,
jeez, that you should bring yourown umbrella. I always travel with
an umbrella. That's gosh, that'sa hard one. I don't even know

(31:55):
how to answer that, honestly,I'm really purplex. Really, yeah,
I would think that that would beeasy off of even what we just talked
about right now, Like, well, I'll tell you what I think I've
learned a little too late. I'velearned sometimes it takes a lot for me
to trust someone, to trust people, and when I let people in.

(32:16):
I think I've learned a little toolate that I still can be hurt by
people. And I think that I'velearned that hurt can cut really really deep,
if that makes sense, kind ofgoing through that a little bit now
with a lost friendship. But yeah, I think that I learned a little

(32:38):
too late, maybe not to fullygiven trust everyone. Maybe I would have
thought that you would have said thatyou learned a little too late not to
get married. No, that Iwas not going to be one hundred percent
of the time the rock. No, or take care of myself well by

(33:01):
the way, and to that,I just want to make it very like
you are human. I don't expectand I think again, I think this
is so relative and relatable to alot of relationships, Like it's a cycle
that a man, you know whotypically is like, you know, the
rock, the provider of the security. I think that that is so important

(33:24):
if you start that cycle, ifyou start it on that ground, and
not everything will be perfect all thetime, but if you can start it
that way, well, I don'tthink we. I don't think me we
as men knew why we need tobe the rock and the provider. That
is that if we do that,like we thought, okay, that's just
a biblical thing, right that itwas biblical, But the biblical is and

(33:46):
it is biblical. But it's basicallyto say that if you do this,
your wife will be yeah, youknow, comfort, I have feel comfortable
enough in with well they're safety togive when they're yeah, yeah, when
there's when there's safety and then yeah, instead's I did this, you need
to do this. You need todo this because I did this. Yeah.

(34:07):
I think that both of those questionswere really interesting that they were also
very pointing into to the these boxingquestions. I like the other ones better.
I'm gonna go work on the otherone. I like those. Those
are a good one. All right. That does it for this podcast,
The We Downed Podcast