We Do(n't) Podcast Episode 36: Roles Reversed

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Welcome to the Weedme podcast, starringhusband and wife Mojo from Mojo in the
Morning and his better half Chelsea.On this episode. On this episode of

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the Weedon Podcast, I'm talking thisway because we just tested the microphones and
one of our guests has a verysoft voice. No, I'm just kiddie,
I'm gonna talk like that. Bythe way, it's not Chelsea.
We all know that. On thisepisode, we're going to talk to a
couple that runs an amazing business andan amazing household and they do it very

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what I would say, unconventionally.Get ready for one of our most interesting
podcasts that we've ever had. Well, all right, all right, all
right, without further delay, hereare Mojo and Chelsea. Good morning,

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afternoon evening. Hello podcasters. HiCharles, how are you? I'm good?
How are you good? Would youlike to introduce our guests to our
we don't podcast listenership. So ourguests today are Will and Jessica Christie.
So they are some of our verybest friends, and they are the owners

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of Beauty Culture Medspa. And Ijust rain for the other well cultured,
well cultured, well, sorry,and I'm impatient of By the way,
I should have should know that.And our two of our very best friends,
like you said, but also andthe parents of two of our very
favorite humans, the two humans thatare teaching us how to become grandparents.

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As weird as that sounds, Idon't want to be a grandma yet.
Can we just say Aunt Chelsea andUncle Tommy? Yeah, okay, we'll
do that. But both of theseguys have an amazing business and they have
an amazing household, and I don'tknow how they're able to do both.
But we will talk to them todayabout that. And and you know,
I guess my first thing is tohave you and I'm going to ask will

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this to explain your guys's home lifework life balance, because both of you
have have figured it out in away that, honestly, I think that
there should be a manual written bythe two of you. Well, you
just went on a bourbon tour,right, Uncle Tommy? I did?

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Yes, Okay, Well that's partof the solution, and I do it.
And when you sip that bourbon,you don't spit it out. You
go ahead and swallow them. Doit all exactly. That's half the battle
right there. No, I thinkit in all seriousness. It was something
that right after we got engaged andgot married, it was just one big,

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amazing life event at a time.It was we moved in together before
we got engaged, got engaged,got married, had a honeymoon, baby
surprise. Life just started rocking androlling. Little Mama was shortly thereafter,
and I was like, Okay,basically, let's quit our jobs and start

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a business. Boom boom, boomboom, and life just happened in The
jobs you guys had were interesting becauseyou were at the time doing a bunch
of things, right, you werean entrepreneur doing a bunch of things.
Yeah. When I met jess Iworked for the Detroit Lions when it wasn't
cool to be a Detroit Lions fanlike it is now. Yeah, coming

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up on Thursday, I think probablya million people will be downtown and campus
marshes. But I was in salesfor the Detroit Lions and Jessica was a
PA in medical dermatology, and weboth had good jobs, and it was
just one of those things that ledto an AHA moment, and we were
both super motivated to really bet onourselves, and I think we matured probably

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in five years more than most peoplemature and twenty five years. Yeah,
and then Jess you started the business. You and Will started the business.
Yes, I mean there were justso many raw moments along the way of
really opening up this business, likethe moments where we I mean we just
both had predictable jobs where we knewwhat we were going to bring home and

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we knew what our life was goingto look like. And then we decided
to just double down and borrow everythingwe could from everyone, put a lean
on our house for our very firstdevice. And I remember we were sitting
at a Coney Island right before weopened, and we're both looking at each
other like on the verge of tears, like this better work because we have
these two little humans. I wascrying because if for the Coney Island and

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French Fries, it might not havegone through that so literally, I mean
every card was maxed out. Itwas like, which which thing are we
which credit card are we going toput these you know overhead lights on that
we need to do business. Butit was the first of many moments like
that in not only rearing children,but also this business and all the twists

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and turns that it's taken us on, it's been wild and I think your
guys's business is just one accomplishment youhave. I think the most major accomplishment
that you have is what you guyshave decided to do over the course of
the last few years in running abusiness but then also running a household.
And Chelse, maybe you can explainhow they run their household well, I

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okay, so as the outsider lookingin, as you're an insider, way
so outsider as an insider, it'sit is truly because we Will as a
state quote unquote stay at home dad, but he and we've known a couple
of stay home dads we were justtalking about this morning. Yeah, and
Will is the most hands on,the most amazing dad I have ever ever

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seen. And again to two ofmy favorite little humans. Truly, your
impact on their little lives is sohuge and so amazing and I don't know
if you can ever understand until youuntil they're older and you'll be able to
take a step back and realize whatan impact, positive impact you have on

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those two kids. You know,and as a dad, you know,
as a state at home mom,you know, coming from a state at
home mom where it's not so conventionalto have the state at home dad.
It's so there are times when Ilook at you and I'm in such on
I don't know another way to stateit, because the kids, the way
that they are with you as adad, it's just you know, and

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not to take away from Tom asa dad. Yeah, start start giving
them some credit at all. Ohhe's not enough. Yeah he gets a
lot of credit. But I'm justsaying, to watch you. It's just
not then normal. No, evensometimes like when they when I'm with them
alone, which is actually even rare, and they fall and skin their neither

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like I want daddy. So that'sso unique because typically there or went slone
the other night when she said toyou, are you sure you can handle
this? How did you answer that? I was like, yes, I'm
your mother, But I really wasthinking, like I don't know, how
did it become even a thought thatthis was what was going to happen,

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that Will was going to be stayinghome with the kids. You know,
it got as the kids got older. It just kind of I had to
use the cliche buzzword, but itkind of just manifested itself. You know,
when you look at what happened withCOVID, and you know, people
being paid to stay home and peopletaking advantage of those just societal things,

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and you know, childcare costs foreveryone in this country is just absolutely ridiculous.
You start really like looking in themirror and saying, I'm paying someone
else to raise my kids as aas a nanny or a babysitter. And

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thankfully we're fortunate to be in theposition to have, you know, our
small business afford one of us thefreedom to do it. So like you
get the benefit of being with yourkids and then you get the benefit of,
you know, saving X amount ofdollars to be with them anyway,
you know, and I look atwhat I do and it's I just couldn't
really wrap my head around, youknow, giving up both of those things

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too, you know, work onmy golf game with you. I'm gonna
get red at golf doing this.But you know, well, but it
also wasn't overnight. You know,it was like he had this business that
was booming. You were able tostill do your job because it didn't require
a ton of hours outside of thehouse. And then we obviously had support.

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We had a couple of Nanni's flexingin and out and then the other
the other thing too is like bigshout out to our team and our office
because they don't need, you know, a practice director at all, They
don't need an office manager. Wehave the best people in the world working
for us, and they don't needsomeone babysitting there babysitting them, which allows
me to babysit my own kids,which I think called but yeah, it's

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yeah, you can't sit around kissingto us, is everybody on that squad.
But then we you know, thenthey started going to school, so
then you have that freedom. LikeWill was in the office from you know,
when he ended up quitting his job, he was in the office from
school hours, you know, notdrop off a thirty ish to two thirty
ish. And then we decided topull the trigger and homeschool, and so

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that through a whole another well that'sand that's a bit that's been very seamlessly
done as well. But yeah,so that's a big thing to talk about.
So that you get a chance tomeet Will and Jessica, who run
this amazing business and both have puttogether this unbelievable business. Then decide that

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Will is going to be staying withthe kids and staying home with the kids,
and then you decide on top ofthat that you're going to pull your
kids out of school because of youhave seen how things have gotten. Yeah,
and actually you had an incident thattook place at a private school that
made you say I don't want mykids, you know. Yeah, you

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know, I think that the mostimportant thing, because we weren't those people
who had read eight thousand books andthen decided that this was right for us.
We had our children enrolled in avery good school, and we were
seemingly happy with the choice that wemade. But it was just a momentary
thing at a parent teacher conference wherewe My son actually had painted this beautiful

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picture of a self portrait and itactually looked like a stained glass and the
little face was in the tiny littlecenter of it. But he he had
elaborate, he had taken the assignmentand just made it his own, which
he always does. And the teacherwas so disappointed that he didn't draw his
face with his hair and write thesenames or you know, identifiers on the
board, like are you kind?Are you smart? He just he just

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went with it and he did hisown thing. And by the way,
this was kindergarten, and she wasso disappointed at how he interpreted the assignment
that she was like on the vergeof tears. And I was like,
I just looked at Will and Iwas like, Okay, I think we're
done. And by the way,they gave us like five minutes to have
this conversation at you know, theconference, and when we got home,

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we were like, this just doesn'tfeel right. And I remember we were
renovating our house at the time ontop of that, and so living in
our basement kitchen and you know,like that little area, and I was
like, you were like, maybewe could read some books in a couple
months or next school year, wecould do it. And I was like,
yeah, but what if we didn'tsend them tomorrow. We just like

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very much like shoot aim ready,like completely backwards. And then we just
have never looked back and never regrettedit. And so I think it's important
for people to know that it wasn'tthis like preconceived thing. It just felt
right and we've never regretted it.It doesn't it doesn't seem like it was
preconceived. Even with Will staying hometoo, Oh, that seems like that

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was just I didn't We weren't allYeah, we weren't yeah, really tight
back then. But that seemed likethat probably was a momentary type situation too,
right, Yeah, it when itall when those dominoes just started falling
together, the stay at home,COVID home school, et cetera. It

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kind of just felt like we weresilly if we didn't try this and do
this. And I think, like, when you look at how this is
all going to turn out, youdon't know how it's going to turn out.
Because the kids are so young,will there be a day that one
of them or both of them wantsto go back? When they get older,
they'll be old enough to really maketheir own choice at a certain point.

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I think if one of our daughterwill probably be the one that wants
to go back sooner. I thinkanybody's kidding themselves if they've met Danny,
if they think he's going to goback, good luck with that a lot
too. You just don't know chase, you know, and they'll be old
enough to, you know, makechoices and have freedom to make choices and

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chase something which would be great towatch. And will you, uh,
every day wake up in the morning, you have routines, just like everybody
that goes to school has you getup, you shower, you get them
ready, you do all that stuffand then they start their day. Yeah,
it's one of the things. Andlike so many people are in this

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schedule, probably a lot of listenersare in the schedule too. I mean,
we were having to wake our kidsup if every single morning, and
get ready, get dressed, geteverything going, get everything packed, lunches,
et cetera. And we had tobe at school by seven point thirty.
And so it probably took a weekof being on our own schedule of

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the kids waking up at you know, eight o'clock ish whenever they woke up
where you literally watched Danny's anxiety exithis body. Within seven days. He
stopped biting his fingernails till they bledalmost overnight, and it's a little person
just kind of blossomed out of that, Yeah, in the first seven days.

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It's just crazy to watch what happenswhen your kids' brains are these little
developing brains are allowed to wake upwhen their circadian rhythms want them to.
They're allowed to eat a leisurely freshbreakfast instead of I mean even Sloan was
like, we were talking about schoolthe other day, because you know,
we were kind of talking about ifthey ever were going to go back,
and she's like, I don't eventhink we ate breakfast, but she did.

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She would eat like a lemon,you know, like luna bar in
the car or something, and thenthey would come home with their full lunches
because they never had time to eat. And so it's just like, I
just think also about their long termhealth implications of being able to nutritionally value
place value on food and they getto move their body all day and it's

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just you know, they get togo to programs after school because they don't
they have energy to still do that, and so they get to be involved
in so many more things too.That's a true gift, a gift that
you guys have given the kids.I read a stat and I don't know
if it was in the Free Pressor to Trade News is one of the
newspapers that said since twenty twenty thatone in five Michigan parents have homes have

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decided to homeschool. That that hasbecome which back in the day, I
remember when we had Joe and Jacob, if you homeschooled, you were considered
to be weird. Weird, that'ssuper weird. Like if you were somebody
at homeschool there was like you youthought that those kids were never did anything,
were like really weird clothes that theyprobably like hands so right, and

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it's that's part of their class economics. And I want to I want everybody
to know that that the Christie's inespecially Danny and Sloane are very very close
to Chelsea and I. And honestly, this is no surprise. Danny is
smarter than me and so is Sloan. But most kids are even kids who

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aren't even born yet are smarter thanme. But Chelsea, you would even
say, there are times where theyoutwit you and things that they'll say and
do or questions that they ask.They're the most inquisitive kids I've ever seen.
Everything. Yeah, they definitely havethe confidence to ask the hard question.
Absolutely can challenge you. So Okay, So you guys in just to

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you know, talk about your yourbusiness and everything. So the business starts
flourishing your family, you know,life starts now flourishing where your kids are.
You're seeing your kids just grow tobe amazing kids. How does this
all affect your guys's marriage all thestuff that you have to do because well
and to understand the sacup for onesecond, the part that Jessica plays in

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the business, like she is thebrains behind beauty culture and so she is
constantly out there. One thing Iadmire about her as well is like watching
her her brain just constantly move intothe next thing and how she can improve
not only her business but her client'slives, her patients' lives, and it's

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amazing. And she just constantly islearning. She's always reading, she's always
studying, She's always onto the nextthing before someone else is on it.
And it's truly you know, Iget to have this front seat and watch
her take her business to this amazinglevel. So she also what she puts
into her business this is amazing.And then comes home and is a mom

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to these kids. So she doesn'tstop either ever. In an Instagram phenomenon,
I love I love going out withyou because more people know you.
I don't ye and I mean youguys that that's the funny. Chelsea and
I that's our favorite part. Yeah, I don't know you, I don't

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know. We were we were atthe Apple Store though, Chelse and I
and one person came up and waslike, oh my gosh, I know
you, and like talking about thepodcast and stuff and like what have you
been up to? And and thenone person was like, I know you,
Jessica, keep doing what you're doing. And the guy that was putting
your screen protector on, he's like, he's like, who are you guys?

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I actually we are to the pointnow where I once in a great
while every few months like are youJessica's husband. Yeah, it's this affects
our relationship. That's also been somethingthat's just been like plot twist after a

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plot twist. You know, youcan't predict for all the crazy things that
happen in your business. And that'spart of the growth that's happened massively as
we've gone along, because we bothhad to mature so much and we weren't
entrepreneurs when we started this business.It just accidentally grew into something so big,

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and now, you know, wecan look back on the experiences that
we've gained in comp I used tohave such imposter syndrome saying that I'm the
CEO, you're the CFO, ButI would say that now I'm this visionary
that does come up with these ideasand then Will is this amazing integrator that's

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going to take my ten crazy ideasthat I thought of all night and then
say like this is one to runwith and he just can really run it
through that logistical filter. Financially,does this make sense to focus? Because
we talk about the things that youguys do and how it like in our
household people, you know, there'salways the assumption that if the man is

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going to work, the woman's athome all day making peanut butter and jelly
sandwiches and cleaning or eating bomban Anda lot of times people don't get the
success that I have had with theshow is generated enormously by Chelsea because I
run everything by her. You know, I run I have not signed eight

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not everything. Well we've talked aboutthat earlier podcast. I thought that was
over, but I run like Ihaven't signed one contract until Chelsea knew about
my contracts. And then also evenjust topics for the show or just each
day run that by. So thatis kind of our thing. And she's

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so smart, like she she's someonethat I bounced things off of too,
like having the two of them,and how will Anne Chelsea in my life
be so I think that they're soanalytical of an idea that we benefit from
that. Yeah, and we're youand I are very similar in the creative
aspects. You guys are exactly thesame, and Will and I are,

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yes, very So it's so interesting. Do you imagine how much they would
kill each other they were married toeach other, or would just kill everybody?
Yeah, there you go, that'strue. We wouldn't kill each other.
We just you guys would be likeBrad and Angelina. What was it,
mister and missus? Yeah, thatflight scene was like four hours.
The whole house gott I'm gonna watchthat crap on the way home, literally

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as soon as we get out ofhere. But yeah, there's actually been
times where Will and I have notfunctioned like this well oiled machine. We
are, you know, in agood place now, but there's times,
you know, vulnerably that I've beenlike, if you're not going to do
things my way, like get outof my way, get out of the
business, you know, William Neeson, good luck, good luck. But

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yeah, it's required an incredible amountof patience, and I definitely think he
is the one who has more patientsin my crazy business mind. You know
what's interesting is that I'm in thelatter stages of my life seeing that I
probably will not live to eighty five, let alone ninety or one hundred.

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But I maybe I'll be going tothemselves. Yeah, but I I look
back on so many times where Iwasn't there and Jacob, actually our son,
Jacob to celebrate his birthday, andhe mentioned something that that was so
interesting because you were talking about howSloan said, you know, are you

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going to be able to take careof us? You know, to you
he said, when mom would leavefor the weekend, my friends for the
day or day or the day,his friends would not come over to the
house because they knew the normally mildmanner dad of Jacob turned into a raging
asshole. What did he call you? I forget what it was the dad.

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Dat's amazing. By the way,Happy birthday to Jacob today right while
we're recording it today. But Iwonder if I'm sure a lot of houses
are like that, right, Alot of homes are like that if they
have a if if there is astay at home where the stay at home

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parent is the compassionate one that hasto be there and the parent that's not
the stay at home parent is notused to the routines that go on.
Yeah, but the way that Jessicaspeaks to the kids, it's just like
this, you know, she's avery Yeah. Sometimes when Sloan will say
something, I'm like, how doshe know how to say that? And

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Chelsea's always like, because that's howyou speak to that. It's exactly.
It's truly. You are so compassionatethe way you speak to the kids.
Although although I do see Jessica sometimes, if Danny throws down a swear word,
Jessica is like, how I amas a dad? She laughs.
It's also the freedom of like whenhe learns how to swear by watching Terminator

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two while we're in Florida. Youdon't have to worry about him dropping the
F bom when he goes back toschool, yeah for eight hours and telling
them all theo the new four letterwords he learned. It is my favorite
when he says, can I justsay my favorite word today? Can I
say a swear word today? Justone? We're like, okay, okay,
just one. He's hilarious, knowwhat it is? Watching so funny?

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He's hilarious. Chelse, what doyou how do you think that I
would have survived if you wouldn't haveI don't you will, I don't know.
I don't necessarily know that. Thinkyou you could have done it with
Luke, yeah, but not Joeand Jacob at the same time, I
don't think I had the patience no, or the attentions fan no or yeah,

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you know you couldn't have done it, But you know what I will
say there. Brene Brown had thisin her book about how when when it
was just her, just her husband, like, because Will used to say
this to me and it really hurtmy feelings. You'd be like when he's
like, I know you don't wantto hear this because you know that came
after a couple of fights. Butwhen you're not here, it's just so
much easier because like now we've addeda Golden Retriever Poppy into the mix,

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like it like they just it iseasier. But I think that that comes
from when you're when you know it'syou and it's all hands on deck,
like you're not trying to do thelaundry and cook and like do all these
other extra things. You're just onehundred percent dialed in because there's no one
else to help you. And soI feel like if you were just on
your own with the kids, thenthat's just it. Like there's no other

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option. And obviously so you canrise to the occasion. I'm going to
just go it on a I'm justwant to put this on the record.
Your best friend, Chelsea, yourbusiness partner, your roommate, slash spouse,
co parent. No, no,everybody told you not to get that

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dog that I love the dog.Yeah, but I'm gonna slice you right
here. When you're not here.Frank is better. That's our dog,
and the kids are better, andeverybody's just chill and lays around. There's
something about me that's very I guessstimulating. I know it's it's they all
love you so much and they're alltrying to get your attention. They they're
so excited for you to be there, and so when you're there, it's,

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you know, it's a little miniholiday and it's exciting and it's fun
and yeah, so yeah, whenI come home after doing all those other
things, I'm like, oh mygosh, get me on my pimp mat
and then and then we just calleach other from there. Ye like baths
and pemp Matt every day every weekin my journal, I'm writing and like
the relax and connect. I'm likeconnect with no one except Chelsea, and

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my relax is pemph Matt in abath, which is amazing. Here's a
question for each of you, guys, and I'll ask Jessica the question first,
and I want to ask Will thequestion next. When you see other
moms in the roles that they're in, do you ever at all get to
a point where you get emotional aboutit or upset about it or think,

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I, you know, miss out, miss out on that. I definitely
know that when my kids are olderthat I'm going to wish that I had
more time. But I just knowalso that I wouldn't be fulfilled if I
wasn't doing what I'm doing. AndI also know that I get to show

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my kids what it looks like tothink outside the box and dream bigger and
also have the luxury to be withthem a lot, and so I do.
Honestly. When I look at momsometimes I actually have to take a
step back because there's so much incompetition with each other about how many activities
their kids are in, you know, And I'm just not that mom,

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and so I can't even go there. But more so, I just know
that when they're going off to collegethat I'm going to wish that I could
go back and do it again.How about you will when you see other
dads or men who are who youknow, are going to to out of
the house every single day when theygo off to college, Uncle Tommy and

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I will be out there tailgating withthem. So I was going to do
the gig jes sicos to be buildingthat business and we'll be out there in
urbur east Lands and doing something orand I will be walking the beach.
Yeah. But no, I thinkwhen all the changes were happening, it
wasn't fun, you know what washappening because up until like that time,

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I was still working, you know, forty fifty hours a week and sales
at bigger companies and proving myself basedon sales goals and I love doing that.
And it all grinded to a zeropoint zero halt and I went from
you know, being respected at myjob now I have no job in everyone's

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opinion, because I'm a state homethere now. And I think for a
while there was a it was definitelya hard time, but now like looking
at it and at that time wishingI was the one out there on Front
Street and people recognizing me at theApple store, I wish that was me.
Now, I like, I likebeing in the backseat because I miss

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nothing. I literally miss nothing.And I'm going to be jealous of him
that he got when the kids getolder and like like your guys as kids,
like they're so much older, they'reoff to college. Luke went to
college. I mean, that'll bethe time where I'm kind of in Chelsea's
shoes, so to speak. SoI can go try to chase being a
scratch and take lessons every single dayif that's what I want to do,

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or or chase something else, orchase a business idea and work on it
one hundred hours a week and nothave to worry as much of their physical
safety. You might have to worryabout other things with bigger kids and bigger
problems. But no, for along winded answer, no, I'm I'm
happy with her, Matt. I'mnot missing anything. And you know,
and we hang out with couples andfriends that their roles are reversed. It's

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the grass isn't always greener. Onthe other side, is it weird when
you when we hang out with otherfriends where the dad is not as present,
are they like, stop making melook bad? I mean I used
to feel, you know, acertain way about it. But men as
a whole, you always validate yourselfon what you do or you know,

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status things, or any type ofquestion like whenever you meet a guy or
as a guy, the first orsecond thing out of their mouth, which
is always what do you do?Well, first of all, you don't
care what I do. You arejust trying to compare it to what you're
a great point, and I'll belike my wife and I we own a
medical practice. Oh cool, areyou a doctor? Nope? Oh I

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thought you had to be a doctorfor that. Nope, you don't.
Oh so where are you from?And oh I'm from so and so.
Okay, let's talk about you forthe rest of the day. Okay,
that's because that's what we really wantto do. Yeah, so so,
And that's how guys are. AndI know that because I was in sales,
and you're building rapport with people,and everyone just loves talking about themselves

(31:32):
at the end of the day.And as long as you understand that I
used to get offended by stuff likethat, and now I don't because I
just don't. Yea, it tooka while to get there. I mean,
it's not like it happened overnight.And I would say the stay at
home mom. It was hard forme to be in situations with Tom,
like at a radio events or whatever, and people are like, well what
do you do? And it sometimesI would feel embarrassed to say, well,

(31:56):
I just stay home with the kids. Now I look back on it,
and I should have just been more, you know, because that was
my calling. My calling was tobe home with the boys. And but
for a minute, like you feellike, oh, I just stay home,
and then I felt like they wouldjust go back to Tom because what
do I have to bring to thetable and what do I have to say?
And I should have felt more confidentin that, you know. Yeah,

(32:21):
I mean honestly, I think ofevery accomplishment that I've ever had,
and I'm telling you seeing our threeboys, especially seeing Joe and Jacob because
Luke were still worried about but Joeand Jacob and seeing how functional they are,
that's greater accolades, you know,than me ever getting into any radio

(32:42):
hall of fame or bullshit like that. Well, I used to think it's
like really sad that with the momswho worked and the moms who stayed home,
it turns into this little like competitionand jealousy. Oh well, you
get to go and go to thebathroom by yourself, and you get take
your coffee warm, you get tohave some time away. But the truth
is, you know, you takea step back and there are things that

(33:02):
you know, working momss miss outon that stay at home moms get all
of that. So instead of itbeing a competition, it should be a
sisterhood. You know, support thatfriend of yours that works out of the
home and they can support you whenyou work inside the home like that.
It should not be a competition.It should go you know, for dads

(33:23):
as well. You know, butI do get that it is so true,
well what you said, and Inever thought about that before. They
people just want to yeah, andthey just want to talk about themselves.
And if you turn it off,it's very interesting, million dollar question that
just gets anybody going where are youfrom? Seven hours later? I don't

(33:43):
have to remember that. I thinkyou guys are missing the boat on a
couple of things, and you twospecifically, I think you guys are missing
the boat on. You have theability and will especially to have the ability
to start a like seminar based onand a couple of things. Number one
starting a business with literally a shoestringand credit cards and all the rest of

(34:07):
this stuff. Number two very successfulbusiness, Yeah, which I think everybody
has wanted to do, right.There's so many people that are working for
it, working for the man,the big company or whatever that are tired
of giving them the money and notyou know, giving it to themselves.
And number two, and this issomething that I see, Like even Mic

(34:27):
on our show has always been askingme questions because Ali has always she wants
to stay home, she wants tobe a stayed home mom, and they
keep waiting for something financial to happento make it possible. You guys started
a business and started a family life, and you didn't wait for something financial

(34:49):
to happen. You just made findsomething financial happen. You make money by
using debt the right way. Ididn't have the money. I in a
roundabout way, borrowed the money inthis case from an SBA loan and a
bank and credit cards and doing itthe right way. But if you're going
to bet on yourself, bet onyourself, whether you're going to invest one

(35:13):
grand, two grand, ten grandor more whatever. But you know what
you used to say to me,that's so amazing. I would be like
during those years when it's like we'repaying off all of those things, I
would be like, are we poor? And he was like, no,
honey, we're broke a big differencebetween being broke and being poor. I've
been broke a million times. He'slike, we're climbing out of it.

(35:36):
But I was like, okay,And I was like I really didn't know
what the difference. But now I'mlike, yeah, that was a good
way to look at it. Someoneway smarter than me told me that,
So I make up. I didnot make that up. I want to
take credit for that. Is thisis the guy who and I'm like crying,
yeah, like the difference of me. Can you m see that for
me? Mode? You know,listen, I'm writing this down because I

(35:59):
think this is a book. II really do. I think anybody's listening
to as saying this is these guysare the catalysts for that. The other
thing, too, is you thinkabout this you don't start the business.
When you started your business, whoknows if beauty culture is successful, you
guys, I would have been sohappy just working for someone else and just
living out my vision and dreams.But just fortunately, that's that's the other

(36:20):
thing is looking at the glass halffull all the time. Everything that's happened
to us as a huge obstacle hasalways a catapulted us into that next stage.
I can't remember who said it,but you know someone I can't like
one of the Instagram personalities, theysaid it. They said, if you
have all the information at the timeavailable, you know, to take the

(36:42):
leap of faith. You missed theopportunity because you can't take everything to an
into account. The other big thing, who knows what Danny's like? If
Danny wasn't pulled out of that classroom, you know he's biting his nails down
to him bleeding. But also sothe fact that you you brought up something
so important I think during this podcastChess, where you talked about how your

(37:07):
kids probably physically are healthier right now, more so than anything that people will
say initially about keeping your kids asuh, you know, homeschooled. Your
kids are now eating appropriate food athome, They're being taken care of,
sleeping the hours they should be sleeping, which we all know nobody sleeps these

(37:29):
days, right, especially you,especially me. But honestly that I never
thought of that as being as importantas this and the other thing that I
say to anybody who's listened to this, I think, if you're somebody that
has wanted to do this, yeah, fuck, make today your best.
Gut a lot that they have done. Is I mean you listen to I

(37:52):
mean, that's up to you.He was he at a certain point bought
himself a diagnosis of being on thespectrum and you know that came from some
western medicine. And I'll leave itat that because the most important part is

(38:15):
that we paid attention to what ourchild needed and part of watching him and
seeing what was where the kind ofissues lied. That really was something that
we needed to see versus a teachertelling us to go get him tested and
he's this is a great time forhim to start medication, and like the

(38:37):
words that were coming out of theirmouths, really that was another stage of
grief for us, where you know, you're looking at your child who needs
extra help, and we really neededto be the ones to give that to
him, like were his parents,and so it really opened our eyes to
really look at we're leaving our childrenwith someone eight hours of the day day

(39:00):
and their waking hours are about fifteento sixteen hours, so really half of
their waking hours and the good hours. And by us pulling him and really
being able to watch what he needed, it helped us on part of our
healing journey. And you know,I can honestly say that no one meeting

(39:20):
Danny now would know that he hashe had an issue with that We were
able to reverse those symptoms. Wewere able to detox him and heal him
and heal his brain, and he'sstill healing. But I'm so grateful that
we again, like it was aculmination of everything. If we didn't jump
and do this business and risk everything, we may not have had the resources,

(39:43):
perhaps to do the things that wedid for him, and then also
being able to homeschool him and beable to really give him the extra resources
that he needed to kind of springboardinto the next stage. But it also
underpins everything about homeschooling and that he'snot going to be a typical first grader.
But look at all the boys andgirls in those classes, they need

(40:06):
to run around, they need touse their minds differently. And in some
of those books we you know,we were reading about like Thomas Edison.
Do you remember the story exactly abouthim? He basically got like kicked out
of school and his mom on schooledhim. Yeah. I think Thomas Edison
was the original og og and sohe just all he wanted to do was

(40:27):
like sit in his garage, andhis mom like is so the most inspiring,
you know, understudy of the storybecause she was the one who facilitated
that, celebrated it and allowed itand then look what came of that.
And so I just think that withall the children that were starting to see
that are being told that they're bad, that they can't sit through school,
that they you know, were feedingthem garbage. We're making them sit there,

(40:51):
we're basically caging them. And Idon't I don't want to turn this
into like talking about the downfalls ofthe public school system or the school education
system, because we could totally dothat another segment. But you know,
when you look at how much technologyis out there and how many amazing resources
are out there in today's world,that's different than it was, you know,
twenty years ago, when we're allin school, you could learn math

(41:15):
and reading and science from the bestpeople in the country or in the world
that can teach it digitally or zoom. You know, there's so many resources
that we go to a couple timesa week, like Kuman for reading and
math. And if you can doreading and math and science and you're learning
all these skills, you have theother four or five, six hours,

(41:36):
ten hours a day to be akid and have fun. And heck,
if I can get his drive tunedup to one hundred and thirty five yards
off the tee in a year,we're going to set up a business and
take a lot of money from peopleon the golf course. And so what
was Tiger Wood's Dad's name was Earl? Earl? We're gonna call you Earl.
Okay, get a bit of aquestionable past. I think I don't

(42:00):
know if I want to. Idon't know if we'd be on. But
do you have a van? Whatwas the thing? But if we'll get
make me no, I'm going tobe like, there's we need to have
another we need to have an intervention. There's gonna be another hiccup in the
road. But that's the thing aboutI read this other book. It was

(42:22):
The Medical Medium, remember that one, and he talked a lot about how
to cure autism and that whole heavymetal detac smoothie, which is not what
we did for Danny, but Iremember him talking about autism spectrum disorder and
how amazing it is because when youcan actually heal those children and some adults,

(42:45):
but it's really amazing to be ableto get them in that early stage
of neuro inflammation. When you canheal those children, they actually hold on
to some of those really amazing partsof autism, which is like extreme focus
and just being able to see andhear everything around them, and they can
quickly like you know, Danny lovesArnold Torzeningger, and like the terminator where
they can quickly look and scan someonelike that kid has some serious, oh

(43:08):
man like skills. And maybe Golfingis one of them that h away from
it. The other will be probablyCIA or FBI and will probably he'll be
doing intelligence of some sort. Allright, we're going to wrap this up
because we need to talk to youguys again. But also I think our
you know, listeners need to maybepossibly talk to you guys, or see

(43:30):
what the other stuff that you're doing. Plug everything you got going on,
and plug make make sure you plugthe social media. Okay, Well,
first of all, Beauty Culture isthe the Medspot portion of the program.
So anybody who's trying to feel confidenton the outside and just kind of looking
at themselves in the mirror and seeingthings that are just age related ginges that

(43:51):
they don't want, they don't haveto know the answer. We can diagnose
through their problem list and tell themwhat they need to do, and we're
really comprehensive and somewhat holistic in that. And then we have our amazing Cultured
Wellness, which is the regenerative medicinepractice and we really kind of sprout off
of bioidentical hormones which people are scaredof still, but we walk you through

(44:13):
it medical, weight loss, liver, detox, gut, all of those
things, sexual wellness. And youcan find us mainly at Beautyculture dot Medspot
on Instagram and beautyculturespot dot com.And you have a podcast, I do
have a podcast. I need youguys to come on it. We should
do this again. It's called thecurated beauty podcast, and that's a little

(44:37):
sprinkle of everything. It's like,sometimes we're talking about business. Sometimes we're
talking about my biggest challenges that I'vegone through and processed. Sometimes we're talking
about the regenerative side of things,and that's heating up, that's getting exciting.
So that's been fun. It's alittle passion project. And I really
do think and it's funny. I'vebeen friends with you guys for a long

(44:58):
time, and I've known Will foreven longer. Jessea, I have known
Will for many many years seeing himgrow up. I really think Will is
missing the boat on a podcast totalk about what he's doing and how he's
doing it, from starting the businessto you know, managing and you know,
taking care of the family, becauseyou you did a you did a
couple of things here that I'm tellingyou I wrote down, you know,

(45:22):
some of the legal battles we cantalk about too on the podcast. And
what I have to say, yougot to help me organize. Then I
have to say, it's a reallypopular thing for people to want to go
open their own medspas because it's kindof a low barrier to entry. But
when people look at me on thesestages and they're like, how did you
do it? Like Will is justwe always call him the Secret Yeah,

(45:44):
sure, yeah, because he hasjust such an amazing Just like Chelsea,
we're highly confrontational in a positive wayand we want the smoke all the time.
You guys, are you? Guysare more similar than you even realized.
Probably. Thank you guys for joiningus. We we love you guys
so much, and congratulations on allyour success, especially the success of being

(46:07):
able to have two of the mostamazing kids ever. All right, we
love you, guys. I loveyou, I love you, love you
more, love you. The more