050824 Kristi Burton Brown

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of it, all right. Letme welcome into the program. Christy Burton
Brown. She's former chair person ofthe Colorado g OP and now she's working

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with a great organization about conservative thoughtand conservative action in Colorado. And she
messaged me last night with some thoughtsabout this last minute property tax bill that
gets across the finish line in Coloradothat's supposed to bring some respite and some
I guess relief to coloradoan's with yourproperty tax bill that has gone out of

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control since the repeal of the GallagherAmendment. And let's bring Christy Burton Brown
into the conversation. Now, ChristyBurton Brown walking to the program. Thanks,
Jimmy, glad to be here.This bill that is going to make
it across the finish line today,going to go to the Jared Poulda says
he will sign it. Great Republicanslike Barb Kirkmeyer and Lisa Riseelbo say,

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hey, this is a good bill. It's we got we got a solution
here. It's going to ease thepain. What are your thoughts on this
bill? So, Jimmy, Ialso love Lisa Frizal, Barb Kirkmeyer,
at least the Republicans who are onthis bill about them. About the bill
itself, if you get to readit, the details make it very clear
this is not actually a property taxcut. Doesn't make property taxes slightly better

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than they are right now or commercialproperties. Yes, For the average person
who owns a home. No,And here's here's why. Right now,
the effective residential tax property tax rateis six point three percent. Under the
bill, it would be six pointeight percent. That is not a tax
cut. And multiple media outlets havemade it very clear that while this would

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lessen the property tax increases that aresupposed to happen next year, it would
not lower the amount of property taxesyou pay. And you're dealing with government
mass, you never call an increasea cut. This is not a property
tax cut for average Colorado. Sois this one of those matters that would
the Republicans that are in such asuper minority in the Houses and they kind

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of took what they could get andanything was better than nothing, and now
it's going to take other organizations throughthe ballot process to fix things. Yes,
I think that's what it is.Because property tax rate is supposed to
increase next year, go over sevenpercent. And so basically what this bill
would do is again and have aneffective tax rate of six point eight percent.
So that's the lower than the sevenpoint one it was supposed to go

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up to next year. But again, we pay six point three percent effective
tax rate this year, so itis still an increase. It's in many
ways like Proposition AHH, except thatit doesn't take tabor. But they're calling
it a cut when it's really lessof than they could have given you.
And so yes, do I thinkthat the Republicans who are on this bill

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fought to get something better and thisis the best they can get. I
do think that's what they did.But here here's the issue. I work
for Advanced Colorado. We have twoproperty taxic ballot measures that are much better
for people in Colorado. We're actuallygoing to keep those on the ballot.
We're going to fight for the peopleof Colorado because there's no way that solving
the property tax crisis should equal thatyou still pay more property taxes next year.

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And that's what would happen under thissill. Christy Burton Brown again the
organization and she's with now, sheused to be the chairperson of the Colorado
GPS. Advanced Colorado. Christy BurtonBrown, talk about these ballot initiatives that
you guys are helping to put onthe ballot, what would they do to
our tax bills in Colorado. Yeah, so what they would do is give

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people a real cap and cut ourinitiative fifty, which has already approved for
the ballot. We already collected signaturesin actually record breaking time because the idea
is so popular with Colorado. Itwould cap the property taxes at four percent
a year if government thinks they needmore than that, and focus that increase
if government thinks they need more thanthat. It's a good voters. So
fifty tabor for property taxes, whichis truly popular with Colorado. You want

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more of our money, you shouldcome ask us. And so basically that's
what it is. Just fifty woulddo a permanent cap in place in the
constitution so the legislature can't keep messingwith it. And then the other measure
that we're currently collecting figatures for,in fact you should look forward outside your
grocery store, is number one Oeight Prop one O eight And what that
would do is actually cut rates andtake the back down the levels that are

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actually reasonable for people instead of continuingdespite their property taxes. And the good
thing about one O eight two that'svery popular with people is would still protect
education funding. In fact, itprohibits the state from taking these cuts away
from education, and it would alsoprotect local governments that people want local law
enforcement and firefighters to have the moneythey need to operate, and it would

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take money from the state government instead. We all think the state government is
loaded. They spend too much,they don't spend well. They created this
massive property taxes, so they shouldbe the ones to pay for it,
not you and not your local government. The voice of Christy burn Brown talking
about two property tax initiatives that they'reworking to get ones to be on the
ballot. They're working to get theother one on the ballot because this action

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by the quote bipartisan group of legislatorsdoes not go far enough and really not
necessarily all that much of a propertytax cut. It's more of that old
trick ouration. It's going to reducethe rate of increase. But they call
that a cut in political terms.You know, usually when we talk about
the property taxes and lowering property taxes, you address this a little bit.

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They talk about, oh my god, the fire department, that the school,
the children. You can't do this, this is this is Neanderthal time
behavior. Talk again about that,because anytime you want to lower the burden
of property taxes on people. Theywill call you a child hater and an
education hater. Right now, that'sexactly what they do. Let's go to

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the extremes. And I think that'sso people should be aware of. When
these property tax campaigns go on thisyear, you're going to hear from the
left, from the progressive, probablyfrom a lot of Democrats. You're going
to hear them say, oh,the world is ending. Your services are
going to go away if you don'tpay property taxes or if you cut and
pass these measures. Well, behere's the thing. If you looked at
your property tax bill this year,I know we all did. People across

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Colorado paid on average forty percent tomore in property taxes. The government has
been collecting that much more from us, and yet they want to tell us
on the ballot that we don't keepgiving them that much and more, all
our services are going to go away. What did you do with that giant
fight in property taxes and tax collectionthat you got from us that you didn't
need or deserve. And I saythis because we talked to local governments who

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say that's well beyond what they actuallyneeded in an increase to pay for these
services that people want. So peopleshould definitely be aware that they're going to
hear like the world is ending andit's absolutely not true. Look at your
property tax bill and you know governmentdidn't need that much. But we have
put protective measures in our valid initiativesthat would guard education. People do want

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our school districts to be funded.This would not take money from school districts
because the state would be to givethem the money that they need. And
it also takes care of your firedepartment, to law enforcement, and takes
money from the government that people likethe least, which is the state.
They don't do a good job withour money, so they can pay for
this mess they created. Initiative fiftywill be on the ballot, and you're

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working to get Initiative one aweight onthe ballot. If folks want to learn
more about you, Christy Burton Brownand the work of Advanced Colorado, where
do they go Advance Colorado dot org. We have a whole issue on property
taxes right there. You can readall about it. Reach out to us,
get involved, and please sign oneO eight. We're also running a
couple actually public safety and education initiativestoo. So we have four out there

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right now. It's by these signatures. Sign them all and let's actually do
with the legislatures not willing to doin Colorado. Advance Colorado dot org.
You can find out how to signone of these petitions to get this final
initiative on the ballot one aweight.Learn more at Advance Colorado dot Orgain Christy
Burton Brown, always a pleasure,always walking on the show. I appreciate
you hopping on here this morning.Christy Burton Brown, former chairperson of the

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Colorado GOP and now she is aworking with Advanced Colorado dot org. And
you heard it just because some peoplewant to spike the football about this property
tax relief bill that is eching getsweigh by a nose out through the legislature.
Don't spike the football yet. Don'texpect to have a windfall of extra

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cash in your pocket. It mightmake it slightly better. But there's so
many analogies I want to use rightnow, but most of them are not
family friendly on the radio. Soyeah, you're still getting screwed, It's
what I'm saying. But anyway,hopefully these initiatives will work out better for
us Initiative fifty and one away.You got to get on the ballot Advance
Colorado dot org. I'll be backLakey on the radio, six hundred k col