071124 Jay Ratliff

Episode Transcript

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Breaking everywhere. Biden has gone thirtymonths without a solo news conference, ten

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months without an interview. It's along time. Thirty months with no press
conference. It's a long long time. Anyway, the media is reporting this
now like the media just got surprisedby this. The media has known this
the long night's around the media andI don't know, I don't know what.
Maybe they instead of a Christmas carter. So the media has known all

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this and now they're the reporting hehasn't done a press conference in thirty months.
Well you knew that. I mean, why are you just now reporting
this whole thing? And the mediais ridiculous out there, they really are,
all right, good to have youhere on the radio show, Jimmy
is my name? Pleasure, Pleasedand thrilled I am to be here on
the show. I got a coupleof great topics I want to hit with
Jay rattle Iff last night that thoughI sent him a link to that the

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interview I did yesterday with Phil Barelyand you got to if you haven't seen,
listen. It's on the Jimmy Lakeydot com page, and it is
the story of the play crash thathad landed in what we'd know is Firestone,
Colorado in nineteen fifty five, killingforty four people was executed for it
wasn't the illegal the time to blowup a plane, so they could only

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charge them with murder. You stillgot the gas chamber, forty four people
dot he blew the plate of adynamite jay rattle. Were you familiar with
that story? It's been depicted inHollywood, and I wasn't even aware of
it. It has been a longlong time since my memory cells were exposed
to that one. So I appreciatethe email that you sent, the link,
and I appreciate listening to the interview. It's quite telling. And you

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know what struck me when I wasreminded of that was just how common it
was back in the day for usnever to screen check bags. When I
was at the airport for twenty years, you'd have people checking in and Jimmy,
they bring the bags in and they'vesaid check bags. Now, when
you X ray these, you're goingto find sewing needles, you're gonna find
scissors. And we'd say, okay, thank you, we'll make a note

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of it. We want not tellingthem obviously that the bags went from the
counter to the tug to the plane. We didn't screen anything and any well,
we did internationally and on occasion domestically, but as a general rule,
it was never done. And anytimeyou had a plane crash during the seventies,
eighties and nineties, we were holdinga breath because we thought, okay,

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are we about to have ten orfifteen or fifty more fall out of
the skies. I was an outspokenproponent for having bags screened before they were
put on the airplane, and Ihad meetings with my FAA friends and a
lot of directors of security from variousairlines who said, Jay, we're not
as worried about it, because thepublic perception is that we screen bags.

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So you know, after the attacksof nine to eleven, they they found
a way, they were forced reallyinto making that happen, which I was
glad to see because we could havehad a nine to eleven prior to that,
with forty or fifty airplanes falling outof the skies. And you know,
that interview you did is a reminderof what we learned from every accident.

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Half fact, after the P andM one O three was blown out
of the skies at that particular time, The recommendation was to begin screening check
bags then as early as the earlynineties, and of course it wasn't done.
We decided instead that we would askthree probing questions when you checked in.
Did you pack your bag yourself,has it been in your possession the

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entire time? And has any unknownparty approached you asking you to carry anything
on board the plane. Again,perception is what we were managing, certainly,
not safety. Wow, it's afun interview. Nineteen fifty five.
Just arned I learned so much ofthat. And he hoped that plane would
blow up over the mountains. Butthe plane was delayed leaving the old Denver
Stapleton and so it blew up justin the northern part of just a few

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minutes out of the airport. Hewanted to blow up over the mountains so
they wouldn't be able to have muchmore evidence of the Rocky Mountains over Colorado
or Utah. But the plane wasyou said, what twenty five sticks of
dynamite or some Yeah, that's twentyfive sticks of dynamite something like that.
He had about a timer, andhe had said timer said to one he
thought they would be over the RockyMountains and instead it blew up and right

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off I twenty five now, butI twenty five wasn't there Center State twenty
five. So it was it wasa different world than they had to run
the phone lines. And I wasjust intrigued by the whole darn thing.
Yeah, and then he bought thelife insurance policy out of a vending machine
at the airport. I think thatpractice stopped in the eighties too, but
that used to be able to dothat. Oh yeah. People would check
in convinced they were about to die, and they would ask us when they

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did check in, where's the lifeAnd they go over to the mutual of
Omaha or whatever counter the little kiosk, and they would buy the insurance convince
they were about to die. Andyou don't see those now, obviously,
but you know, even back inthe eighties, we would have a plane
crash every year, every other year. I mean, it was it was
understandable for people to be a littlebit anxious. And of course now you

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have to go back to February oftwo thousand and nine. Thank god that
it's been that long since we've hada crash of any kind. And it's
you know, it's because there's alot of professional men and women, advancements
and technology and training that's made ithappen. And we've certainly had several close
calls because of human air and otherthings since, but thankfully, up till

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now that's not been the case.And yep, that's how far back you
got to go. Well, wrapidfire on some of these other ones that
you can get about your day.You sent me video of a scary speaking
of near missus and almost accidents inSyracuse, a couple of planes gotta well,
well, I'll let you tell thestory here. It's on YouTube it
is. And what happened was therewas a secure well, there were two
police officers that noticed this, thesetwo airplanes, one taking off, one

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landing that woe seemed like they camepretty close together, and there was a
security footage from a business that theywere able to get and all of a
sudden they submitted that to the FA. Of course, it went online and
went viral showing these two airplanes.And you know when I first saw it,
it was sent to me from ourstation in the Syracuse that I work

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with every Thursday, and they said, hey, j check this out.
I knew everything was going to beokay. But when I noticed that film
and I watched it that video,I was like, oh my god.
I mean, it took my breathaway, even though I knew everything was
going to be okay, and Ithought, okay, the camera angle,
maybe things, you know, maybeit's just visually misleading. And then we

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hear the air traffic control tape betweenthe departing delta connection flight and air traffic
control that was very tense, whichis unusual for our cruise, and you
hear in their voice not panic,but a great deal of tension like where
in the world and who gave thempermission? Blah blah blah, And it
was obvious this was a lot closerthan it should have been. So if

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you've not had a chance to checkout that video, I highly recommend it.
And it was at the Syracuse Airport. And the FAA right now is
investigating to try to find out whathappened, and we will learn as the
time progresses. It will take thema few months to provide their final report.
But it's one thing for you andI to talk about the near miss
over Austin or something in San Francisco, New York. But when you see

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the video and you see just howclose wow, that could have been.
Just a horrific situation. I'll getthe video posted up on my social side
so people can see it easily.I'll put that up here. In just
a moment, you mentioned the FAA. FAA keeping people safe. They've ordered
an inspection of some Boeing aircraft.It keeps hearing that name Boeing. Let's

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see, we've not talked about them, and what a week And that's exactly
the case. This time. TheFAA is saying that Boeing needs to have
twenty six hundred of they're Boeing seventhirty seven aircraft checked, looking at possibly
a faulty oxygen canister delivery system.In other words, if in fact there's

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an emergency, there's question on whetheror not the oxygen mask are going to
drop and operate as they're supposed to. They've got a problem with the strap
that's up there holding it and it'sshifted and it's making it difficult sometimes for
those oxygen masks to deploy. Soas if Boeing needed I don't know,
another challenge. Yes, twenty sixhundred, seven thirty sevens need to be

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checked for these oxygen canister issues.This comes after the Boeing seven fifty seven
airworthiness directive from the FAA saying someof the fa AS inspectors have found cracks
in the Boeing seven fifty sevens cracksin the fuselage. And I will quickly
point out this is only impacting onlike ten aircraft here in the United States

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one hundred and twenty others around theworld. So it's a mile well,
I say, minor. I'm noton one of those ten, but it's
not as big as some of theseother stories that we've had. It's it's
it's Boeing gotta have a problem aday that keeps the inspectors away or something
right that there's got to be asaying here. Boeing has accepted a plea
deal of the two Boeing Max seventhirty seven crashes, and that took three

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hundred and forty six lives. Theplea deal is, well, they're going
to pay two one hundred and fortyfour million, they're going to be listed
as a felon, and far moreimportantly, they're not going to go to
criminal trial. And that's what theywere after, that's what they wanted.
Now, the families of those thatwere killed desperately wanted this to go to
trial for two reasons. One,the funitive damages would have been off the

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charts, but two they wanted itas a public record again, just for
all the stuff that Boeing did backthen, to be again public knowledge.
They lied for this long, theycovered up for this long, they withheld
this information for this long. Theypromised to become a better company, blah,
all of those things that Boeing didn'twant. One it was going to

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be an additional expense from a legalstandpoint, and two it was going to
be highly embarrassing. And remember,I don't know if the numbers fourteen or
fifteen billion dollars, but Boeing hasa lot of government contracts big time,
and I think that that gives them, sadly, some influence in DC.
And I think that could have justJay's opinion here, I have no inside

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information that I could have kind ofgreased the wheel for this thing to never
ever, ever ever see the insideof a courtroom. A plea deal and
they quickly accept it, and they'regoing to pay that money and move on
again. Boeing has promised, asthey did five years ago, to become
a better company, not to makethe same mistakes. Blah blah blah.
I believed them five years ago.No way on God's green earth, I'm
believing them now because they continue todo the same stuff. These whistleblowers that

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come forward talking about how management's directingthem to use faulty parts when they run
out of the good parts just tokeep an aircraft on schedule. From a
production standpoint, is clear this companyas it's set up now has lost its
way for the last ten to twelveyears, and sadly they're making the same
mistakes as they've done before. Complacencyhas set in. Nothing's happened bad,

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so that means we can keep doingit. And that's simply not what you
do when you're talking about keeping passengerssafe as they fly. And by the
way, we hit a record thisweek three million people screen by the TSA
first time ever. We've seen threemillion people travel in a day. Wow,
what's it like traveling today? Andthe crowd ag go back home?
They still are they still getting screenedtoday? Well, I mean we're gonna

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have a lot, not gonna havethree million. But weatherwise, this is
the best day of the week tofly. We had the hurricane come through,
the tropical storm a mess on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Some of
those people still trying to make itto their destinations. But if you're heading
to the airport today, I'm pleasedto report that from a weather situation,
it's the best day of the weekto fly. Still, make sure you
get to the airport a minimum oftwo hours before departure. Still seeing a

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lot of people miss their flights,and it's because they try to cut it
too close to the airport. Youcan't do that with as many people that
are flying right now. I heardthat they're expecting in places like Vegas said
the afternoon delays are possible because it'sgoing to be one hundred and fifteen degrees
out there, so they may haveto delay some of their afternoon flights.
Better to get out early in Vegasbecause that heat. For some reason,

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those planes don't like to take offin that heat. We've got. The
thin air during the heat makes itdifficult more difficult for the airplanes to take
off. It simply requires more ofa runway, which is why for a
lot of the smaller commuter type aircraftsyou see that they need to reduce the
weight. They'll take bags off,even remove passengers. Happened all the time

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with the fifty seaters. We've gota little larger airplanes now, but it's
still a challenge, and of courseyou're worried about the people working on the
ramp keeping them safe as well.The airplanes themselves can operate, but from
a weight and balance standpoint, withthe heat, you've got a situation.
Of course, we had a planetaxing or rolling for takeoff I think yesterday
American Airlines and it might've been Miami. One of the tires blue on takeoff,

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they had to abort takeoff. Thetire caught on fire. We see
that happen a lot blown tires withthis extreme heat. And they were able
to put that fire out on thetire without any problem. But it's just
some of the challenges that you havewhen you have this kind of intense summer
heat. You've got these full airplanes, they've got that much weight. Those
types of things happen. Jay Ratliffealways a pleasure, my friend, and

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for those of you that want tosee what Jay looks like. I did
an interview with him recently. Sponsorshipas a golf tournament and I'm going to
share that. It's so much charitypage. We put it up yesterday.
It is a snippet of it.It's a short version of it, but
I'm going to put that up therefor everybody can see. Jay Ratliff and
Jay you checking out yourself. I'llput it up on the Facebook here and
just a bit thank you my friend. I'll talk soon. Looking forward to
it, my friend, Thank you. You got a j Ratlift dot com.

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That's his website, Jay Ratlift dotcom. Yeah, I'll put that
up. It's on my charity sideRivers Promise Facebook page, but I'll move
it over to and I'll share itover on the Jimmy Laky page. And
he's got a fascinating story. Oneday I'll get him on a podcast or
he'd let him tell his entire story. Life bottomed out for Jay many years
ago and in the airline industry,and they always got laid off because he

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was upper management webbs and flows,and life bottomed out for the guy,
and he ended up spending ten yearsof his life after divorce and all the
stuff that went through ten years ofhis life at a travel lodge, no
joke, and he taught himself theday trading world. That's what he does
now and quite good at it.And anyway, we just did a little

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video i'd interview several weeks ago,and I'll play it for you. I
won't play it for you. I'llput it up on my Facebook page.
Here at the break of Facebook dotcom slash Jimmy lakeyfanpage. Facebook dot com
slash Jimmy Lakey fan page. Andyou can put a name to a face
and Shay Radle, it's about twominutes. This is all take to take
you about two minutes, and it'llbe a name to a face and it

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will let you see what it lookslike. And it's just he's talking about
why he supports her charity. He'ssuch a great, great supporter of the
charity work we do. And Ido appreciate him. He's becoming a pretty
good friend and Den I appreciate him. All right. Nice to have all
of you here on the radio show. If you want to jump in here
eight six six triple eight fifty fourto forty nine. New York Post has
a headline dim Civil War continues.Biden has no way to end it except

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to surrender. He could end it, but just get the nomination. I
mean, if he gets the nomination, he gets the nomination, I mean,
they could be mad, but it'snot like they're going to vote for
Trump. So I mean, ifhe can hold out long enough, then
I think he's going to be beall right. And I think that's probably

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the game plan, run out theclock, minimize the damage. Some people
are holding back. It's just it'sjust it's fascinating to watch this thing.
I do think that George Clooney letterwas interesting, especially now that we know
the Obama's behind it. Is thatan escalation of just small little signs.
Hey Joe, Hey, Joe,Clooney's involved. You know Clooney is involved.

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You've got to have Barry involved.But the war could end. I
mean, if Biden gets across thefinish line and gets the nomination, that
conventions in August. But I'm toldJuly twenty first is a day that they
start seating the delegates or somehow prelims, and if it gets past the twenty
first, then it's it's a docThat's what I'm told. There's a lot

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of parliamentary tricks. I get it, and a lot of people have different
person interpretations. But I've heard severalpeople say the magic date is not the
convention. The magic date is goingto be July the twenty first, So
in the civil war will end.I mean, they may not like their
candidate, they may be mad atJoe for not leaving, but I do
not. I'm still not thinking he'sgoing anywhere. I just don't know.

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He worked for this his whole life, and that's his whole identity is politics.
I'll come back in the moment withpontificate together. Eight sixty six triple
AH fifty four forty nine Laky onthe radio, six hundred k, col