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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Strikes me funny.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It does though the Trump campaign is blaming Iran for
hacking emails. I guess I have some emails that got hacked.
I don't even know what's going on. Usually hear China
or Russia gets blaming I Ran, I Ran didn't, Maybe
they did.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I didn't know that you had computers there. It's sorry.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
It's just Iran as not necessarily who I thought would
be the top of the cybersecurity thread in the world.
So I don't know. The headline just makes me giggle
a little bit, just slightly. All right, good to have
you here on the radio show. Jimmy is my name.
Halfway through the radio broadcast today, and it's a pleasure
to have you here. Thanks for tuning in at six
hundred k col I've had a guess.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
A schedule they move.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
You always get suspicious when these these old publicists, they
moved the time around a few times, and they would
go to this time at this time of this time,
and then you wonder, Okay, they probably screwed up here.
And I think he did a great guess because I'm
fascinated by this topic. I'm a I'm a believer in
the vaccines. You need to get your vaccines according to
your own desire, your own will, but you've got to
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be limited out there. When you and I were kids,
you got the mumps of measles and the rubella vaccines, right,
and you got a polio. I think we still gave
the polio shot and it was a very limited thing.
But you know, now before a kid starts like kindergarten,
they're getting cocktails of vaccines, like thirty drugs in one thing.
And it's really bizarre how many vaccines a kid has
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to have if they're going to be fully compliant. And
again I'm not saying there's not some real good ones
out there. They probably your kids and my kids should get,
but there's other ones that you have to start asking
questions about. It's an interesting book. I want to interview
the author about it. It's called Unavoidably Unsafe and just kind
of a cautionary tale that just because well, I mean,
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there are some very good vaccines that are probably your
kids out again, and that's fine. I'm not a doctor, though,
you make your own judgment, you know. Colorado this is
also interesting. Any state that has a very high level
of academicia, in other words, are very well educated populace.
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You judge this value on your own, did you know,
like Boulder, even for Collins, with the people that have
all the smart degrees and all these things, and there's
some problems with that. Some of these people are so
educated they have no common sense. But statistically, places that
have very high level of secondary education and degrees and
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placards on their wall, did you know that their compliance.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
For full vaccination is lower. It's a true story.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
The most quote educated, I use air quotes there, the
most educated people out there are less likely to become
fully compliant. And did you know you can actually pick
and choose. I'm going to do this vaccine, this vaccine.
We're not doing that one. Sorry, I'm not going to
do that one. I mean, there's just so many things
out there that are interested about the modern day world
of vaccinations that again, I'm not telling you don't vaccinate.
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I'm not telling you you should avoid all of them.
I'm just saying you ought to be educated as to
how it has changed. And I didn't realize how it
would change until I became a parent. And I became
a parent and did a round of first round of vaccinations,
and I won't bore you with the whole story. It's
not really a boring story. But I learned so much
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that what we vaccinate our kids for now is totally
different than the way you and I were vaccinated. But
in our heads it seems about the same, but it's not.
And so it's a real interesting study. And it's just
it's also interesting to see that some of the most
some of the highest areas of population that have academic accolades,
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meaning they've gone to college and got their masters and
their PhDs, those people are more likely to not fully
comply on the vaccination world. So it's an interesting story.
Well I've inted that. But also okay, by the ways,
just speaking of this book that I want to talk about, Boom,
we have a My guest has appeared. Let me welcome
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home in Doctor Jeffrey Bark is the author of Unavoidably
Unsafe Childhood Vaccines Reconsidered, Board certified Primary care Physician. And
again the name of the book is called Unavoidably Unsafe
Childhood Vaccines Reconsidered. Doctor Bark, Welcome to the program. I
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thought we might have missed you, but I'm glad you
dialed in. Thanks for being here.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Good morning, great to be with you pronounced.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Barkie, doctor Barky. I appreciate you hopping on the program,
doctor Barkiy. Let's dive into this. I was just talking
to the audience, and I learned this when I became
a parent, that what I was vaccinated for, you know, mumps, measles,
and rebella the MMR. It's changed since then. It's not
just one shot in a kid's arm or their hip.
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It is suddenly a whole bunch of a thirty different
forty so become full compliant in the world of vaccines
is a whole lot different than it was when you
and I were probably kids, Doctor Markie.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah, there's no question about that. In the nineteen eighties,
for a kid to make it through high school, they
would receive about ten different injections. Now it's in the seventies,
so things have changed. And what changed is in the
mid nineteen eighties we gave immunity from liability to all
the vaccine companies, so of course they would ramp up
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production because there was no downside for them. So I'm
not here to tell anybody that they should or shouldn't
get a vaccine. This book is mainly a guidebook for parents, grandparents,
and anybody who's interested in learning about the childhood vaccine
schedule and how we ultimately got here.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, so you and I grew up maybe five ten
shots to get all the way through high school. Now
it's like in Colorado was like sixty or seventy almost
before kindergarten, first, second, third grade.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I mean, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
And in all this happened in the in the eighties,
we gave immunity. I heard this story, and I think
it's to be true that, for instance, the chicken pox vaccine,
all of us kind of work through the chicken pox
as a kid. Now there's a vaccine that's on the
required list for kids, Well, nobody was getting it. Nobody
was getting the chicken pox vaccine because old school parents
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are like, hey, let the kids get the chicken pox.
It's just part of life. And then they decided, oh no,
we had it's going to be required.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Now it's on the required list.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
But the unattended consequence I'm looking at stats is that
now there's a higher onset than ever of childhood shingles
because they buy pass the chicken pox virus.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Are there other fallouts just like this?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Oh, of course there are Why would you vaccinate a
kid against an illness that is relatively benign when the
vaccine itself has significant consequences. Those are the realities that
we point out in the book. When I was a kid,
I had chicken pox because my mom drank my brother
and I down the street to a kid that had
chicken pox to expose us so we could get through it,
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get over it, and get back to school. That's exactly
what happened. Fast forward about thirty five forty years and
I rechecked my blood to see if I was still immune,
and sure enough I was. Because we're now vaccinating everybody
in their mother against chicken pox, and we're not really
seeing chicken pox in the community. People like me and
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you are no longer re exposed to this. Our immune
systems are no longer boosted against chicken pox. The end
result is now we're seeing an explosion of shingles, the
reactivation of the chicken pox virus that is now occurring.
So there are always consequences to the things that we do,
and in our book we point this out. We have
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questions that you should ask your pediatrician or whoever it
is that's giving your kid the vaccine, Like, what are
the actual risks of my child getting the illness against
which you're vaccinating? And if they do get the illness,
are their adequate treatments? And is this illness even dangerous?
Those are things that parents should know informed consent.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Doctor Barkie is my guest. He's written a book called
Unavoidably Safe. Oh yes, sorry, you cut out, Doctor Barkis,
I was filling in. I know you're on your cell phone.
You kind of let's talk about informed consent, because what
does that mean and how does a parent know that
if they have given informed consent. I've heard of people
literally before a child leaves the hospital, leaves the nursery
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after birth, that they parent finding out that their kid
has already received some inoculations as huge or vaccinations, and
the parents like, what did you do? We did want
and they just kind of figure it's kind of part
of the protocol. Explain where that informed consent begins.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Well, it should begin. It should begin before any kind
of medical procedure, injection or drug is given. Unfortunately it's not.
It is routine now in the United States that a
newborn child at day two of age received a hepatitis
B be like boy vaccination. Well, hepatitis B is a
sexually transmitted disease and all women during their prenatal care
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get tested for hepatitis B with rare exception, So there
is no reason to be vaccinating a newborn against hepatitis B.
And this hepatizes being vaccine as two hundred and fifty
micrograms of aluminum in it. Aluminum is a neurotoxic. I
think it's child abuse to be given a newborn hepatitis B,
and at minimum, informed consent should be given. A parent
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should read the package insert and understand what's in it.
They should understand the potential side effects, what alternatives are,
and the safety of the product. This notion of informed
consent as less of building and rarely is it ever
given to parents or for that matter, even adults. If
you into your pharmacy to get a.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Vaccination, doctor Barkie, somebody may be listening going, well, why
would they be giving the child the hepatitis B vaccine
in his first two here's are her first two days
on the planet.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
What is the logic?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I mean, what was the explanation for that hepatitis B
vaccine given within the first forty eight hours of a
child's life.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
What why?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Obviously there seems to be reasons not to. Why do
they say you should.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Well?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Follow the money? So hospitals and doctors make a lot
of money administering vaccines. The whole purpose of the well
child check program, when you bring your newborn into the
doctor's office every couple of months to be checked out,
correlates perfectly with the CDC's vaccine schedule. So pediatricians make
money on the well child checks. They make money when
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they administer vaccines as well. The notion is though, that
a very tiny percentage of women will have hepatitis BE
and could potentially spread that to their newborn. That may
be true in third world countries, but in here, every woman,
if they go through a routine prenatal check, will be
tested for hepatitis B. So it's a product that just
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simply is not necessary. It's all risk, no benefit, and
it should not be done, certainly, not without informed consents.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
There's a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Again, Doctor Barkiy's book is called Unavoidably Unsafe, and it's,
if you will, a way to educate yourself on childhood
vaccines and how they should be reconsidered. For years, it
was always kind of considered a conspiracy theory because a
lot of folks say that all these numerous amounts of
vaccines have brought about a huge increase of autism. And
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then some people would say, oh, my goodness, that's medical conspiracy,
medical prognostication, that's a malpractice. That's not the case. Have
we gotten to the place yet to where we're willing
to try to draw some connections. So what was never
heard of in when we were kids, really autism is
now becoming very, very prevalent, and it does correspond with
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the increasing amount of vaccines that happened to a child.
Are we at the place where we can talk about
this or we still just conspiracy theorist.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Well, listen, many of us are talking about it, but
unfortunately there are powerful forces in effect that don't want
to acknowledge it. If you can imagine if it became
commonplace knowledge that the more vaccines you get, the more
likely it is for your child to get autism, which
is my belief in the belief of many, the vaccine
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program would be turned upside down. The companies that make
these vaccines would be losing a lot of money, and
potentially the liability community would be removed, and these companies
would then be open to the idea of being sued
if you're injured by a vaccine. Right now, if you
get a vaccine as an adult or a child and
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you're injured by that vaccine, and I see it all
the time in my practice, you have zero recourse against
a company that made that pres sated are immune for liability.
So yes, the information is there that there is a correlation,
and I believe a causation between vaccines and autism. Autism
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is exploding right along with the increased numbers of vaccines
that were giving kids. Now, of course, there are other
problems as help, like the garbage kids are eating. Thirty
percent of our children are o pease and they're eating
unhealthy food like never before. Same thing with adults. So
there's more to it than just the vaccines. But the
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vaccines really play a role.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Doctor Jeffrey Barker, he's a co author of a book
called Unavoidably Unsafe Childhood Vaccines Reconsidered. You mentioned vaccine injury.
There's a federal government website where you can go on
and log your vaccine injury and kind of documented people
did that.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Whether it's a.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Vaccine they given their children and or the COVID vaccine.
But the thing is it's basically just kind of an account.
There's no recourse. I mean, the Vaccine Injury website is
just simply that a website that you put your comments on,
but there's no recourse on it.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Am I correct, Well.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
You're basically correct that SDA, the Food and Drug Administration,
and the CDC are supposed to be scrutinizing this their's system,
vaccine adverse reporting system, and then if they see signs
of injury, they're supposed to investigate.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Actually, doctor Barkie, you're breaking up, honestly, you disappeared anyway,
We'll get we'll have you back on again. It's a
fascinating discussion. I'll put you on whole doctor Barkiey's disappeared
into cell phone hell there. But he's a co author
of a book. Again, not telling you whether you should
or shouldn't, but just have that informed information about the
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modern day vaccine schedule. Again, up until the eighties, when
you and I were heading to school to get through
high school, it was pretty much ten vaccines, ten injections,
and you were done. Now a kid to get through
high school going to have about seventy different ones, and
there's probably some information in there you might want to know.
And in the eighties the law changed and pharmaceutical companies
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could no longer be held liable if they called it
a vaccine. You can't sue them, you can't do anything.
So now your kids are getting seventy. So it's a
different world. And I learned that when I became a parent.
And it's an interesting book, a great topic, unavoidably unsafe
co written by doctor Jeffrey Barky. Again he's in cell
phone chaos, So we'll go ahead and dispatch that interview,
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but I'll get it. What we heard I think was
quite fascinating. And again you can be you may want
to be the parent that gets all seventy of them
for your kids.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
More power to you.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
That is totally your prerogative. But maybe you do have
some questions out there. And as he was saying that
that vaccine reporting system, the VAR system, is supposed to
be it's the only way you have recourse. You post
up your vaccine injuries and then happened to you to
a family or child, and the FDA is supposed to
be looking at that and go oh, we see a trend.
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Let's pull something back button. It doesn't happen. They don't
ever pull those vaccines back. Instead, they just could continue
to add them on to the protocol, and before long
the kids will be of the eighty injections just to
graduate high school. So doctor Jeffrey Barky, thanks for hopping
on the program again. The books available Amazon Unavoidably Unsafe
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