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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Have you here on the radio, showed Jimmy is my name? Pleasured,
pleased and thrilled to be here on the program. Tragedy
in Dallas, Texas, the Motherland, the Homeland overnight. A police
officer was shot sitting in his car. They got a
call for officer in distress in Oak Cliff, which is
the south Dallas area near the State near the old
(00:21):
Cotton Bowl, the State Fair area. They're in Dallas, if
you're familiar. A copper shot his car. Officer in distress.
Two other officers showed up and they were also shot,
two of them taking to the hospital. Of course, the
one passed away. The shooter. They don't know his motive,
but the shooter dead as well. So thoughts to the
law enforcement men and women in blue in the Dallas
Fort Worth area this morning, and may God protect all
(00:44):
of our men and women, the first responders out there
across America, across Colorado today is there's some bad people
doing the farious and nasty things out there, and it's
a job I don't want, but I'm glad somebody does
and I'm glad they have it. Let me walk home
to the program. My first guest of the morning, his
name is Jack Cashill. It's written a book called Untenable,
(01:06):
The True Story of White Ethnic Flight from America's Cities.
You hear stories like that they just heard and know.
The violence is up. Karth the f Sharrop Colorado leads
in some categories and some crimes. Beautiful Colorado leads and
some some crime categories. Jack Cashill has written a book
about why people are fleeing some of these cities and
(01:26):
deciding that they well, we're having all sorts of trouble.
Oh there we go. Now my mouth, I think the
battery in the mouse is getting low here. Bringing Jack
Cashell in the program again. Untenable, The True Story of
White Ethnic Flight from America's Cities. Jack Walking with the show.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, hey, Jimmy, thanks, And that's unfortunately the kind of
story we hear too much. You know, my father and
my uncle and several of my cousins are or were
a police officers, So I take that stuff pretty personally. Yeah,
the cities have gotten unfortunately, they've gotten much more criminal
than they ever need to be. We're much more prosperous
(02:00):
country than we were, say, fifty years ago, sixty seven
years ago, but our crime rate is you know, a
murder rate of six eight times higher, despite the fact
that emergency care has improved so much otherwise, to be
twice as high as all that. You know. So it's
and it's a lot of it. It's just a result
of bad public policy and the failure to make changes
(02:21):
when we needed to.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Saw from this book untenable. Obviously, it's a book about
the story of white ethnic flight from America cities. People
are getting the heck out of the cities and say,
enough of this nonsense. What inspired you to actually write
the book and put pen to paper.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Well, you know, Jimmy, the problem. The thing is, when
I started writing, I said, why did I wait so long?
Because I had a front row seat on urban transition.
I grew up in North New Jersey. My neighborhood collapsed
under me. You know, it had been a sort of harmonious,
really congenial, working class neighborhood, mixed ethnic, you know, integrated.
(03:00):
You know, throughout the fifties into the sixties. You could
not have found that, you know, for people without aloting
a lot of money. You couldn't have found them more
harmonious place to live. And then he collapsed, it fell apart.
I mean totally within five ten years is all gone.
So it became untenable. I got the title from a
friend of mine who was the last of my childhood
friends to leave the block, and he was living there
(03:22):
with his widowed mother. Now he's in his twenties. And
I asked him, and he's a Democrat, so he's arguing
against interest here. And I asked him, I said, already,
why did you call me to leave? You know what
what propelled you to leave? He goes, well, young Jacket
became untenable. The neighborhood became untenable. I said, well, what
do you mean, be specific, what do you mean by untenable?
(03:44):
He goes, well, when your home gets invaded for the
second time, that's untenable. When your mother gets mugged for
the second time, that's untenable. And that and a word
is what happens in urban America in the sixties and seventies,
and at a lower pace, is still happening today.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
The worst of Jack Cashier, whose name of his book
is called Untenable, The True Story of White ethnic Flight
from America Cities. Jack eventioned the bad policies. It seems
as if to me, you and I it's kind of
obvious why this happens. You even in some cities had
to defund the police, You have no cash bail, You
have all these policies that don't really put the punishment
(04:23):
on crime and the consequence on crime that maybe should
be there. But nobody seems to be fixing the policy.
Why is it so difficult for some people to see
that they're making these cities.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Untenable because it's politically not in their best interest to
raise the kind of issues that are needed. I'll give
you a quick example. I live in Kansas City, Missouri.
The other night yesterday a Irish proprietor of a bar
and grill, a very popular guy, which is shot and
killed by a couple of teenagers trying to steal his car.
(04:57):
That made the headlines of the Irish time. And the
quick answer for our mayor in Kansas City has always been, well,
you know, if it wasn't for that Republican legislature and
their gun laws, this wouldn't happen. Well, in twenty twenty three,
Kansas City's five hundred thousand people committed one hundred and
eighty five murders are just a couple of miles away.
(05:20):
The city of Oakwon Park, which has two hundred thousand
people and it operates under the same gun laws as
Kansas City, committed one murder, so the murder rate in Kansasity, Missouri,
was seventy four times higher than this neighboring city. The
difference is that neighboring city was in Kansas. They had
(05:42):
the same gun laws, but they had a Republican sheriff,
they had a Republican prosecutor, and they had a mayor
of the city who was non partisan, so there was
no They had no interest in Overwon Park and trying
to promulgate a philosophy down the throats of the people
who lived there.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
The voice of Jack Cashle, the book is untenable. A
jacob A drive just down towards downtown Denver, and a
lot of cities are like this. Every part of the
sky the skyline is being lined with the apartments and
rental properties in Colorado because of some laws, it's very
tough to build something you can actually purchase because of
the construction defect laws. And so there's all these properties
(06:25):
going on and I'm looking at them. If the crime rate,
they're beautiful, I mean the skylined or right next to
the ballparks and all this stuff. And in most instances
you'd say, you know, I wouldn't mind having a second
property there. Maybe that could be a weekend getaway, or
maybe you work down there, and you work, you go
there all the time. It would be a fantastic place
to live, if you didn't know that the crime rates
and a lot of these cities are continuing to go up.
(06:48):
And are are we going to end up in a
situation where the governments and big cities are trying to
force populations into this this dense housing, these dense housing projects,
and you end up stuck there becau there's no where
else to go.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
The goal of city planners for the last twenty thirty
years I've been privy to these conversations has been to
do just that, to compress people in a small area
so they save energy or something. But now it seems
to me in Colorado, if you want to get some
your own apartment building, all you've got to do is
recruited venus, a whale and gang to take it over
for you. You know, and there you are. Now I
(07:22):
can get rid of the venezuela and gangs. But one added,
that's what Colorado is known for today. They to say it, Yeah, nationally,
that's the story is getting a lot of attention, and
it's we already have our home grown problem. Why are
we importing the problem on travel of our problem?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah? Right, Uh's problem.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I supply. And that's what's frustrating about it.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah, it is the name of the book is called Untenable,
The True Story of White Ethnic Flight from america Cities.
Give us the five thirty seconds, give us the takeaway
from the book in conclusion, What will you draw from
reading this book.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Inconclusion is when the society's out to destroy the American family,
they have to live in the ruins of that destruction.
And that's the bottom line. They've noticed that the issue
since mooint Ahand did his famous report sixty years ago,
the destruction of the black family particularly has been catastrophic
for the black community and the surrounding neighborhoods as well.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Jack Cashel independent writer, documentary producer, media consulting. His latest
book is called Untenable, The True Story of White Ethnic
Flight from America's city cities. And Jack, I'm guessing that's
available at Amazon and everywhere the good books are sold.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Sir, Yeah, everywhere their good books are sold exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
You got a Jack Cashill Yeah, go ahead, than.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
All, sir. I just want to say that, thanks that,
I appreciate your time.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
You got a Jack Cashell again. The name of the book,
I'll say it again, Untenable, The true story of white
ethnic flight from Americans from America's cities. All right, it's
a break time. It looks like here coming up. If
you want to jump in. Let me give you some
emails though. Way to contact me Jimmy Lakey and iHeartMedia
dot com Jimmy Lakey at iHeartMedia dot com. Also, I'll
(09:02):
log into the social sites Facebook dot com, slash Jimmy
Lakey fan page, the tweeter verse or the x verse.
Wherever we call that now is just my name, j
I M M Y L A K E Y Jimmy Lakey. Yeah,
just look for me. I'm out there. As Dion Sanders says,
I ain't hard to find, and I'll be back here
in just a moment. You'll find me at the other
(09:23):
end of this commercial. Break stand by six hundred KC
O L
Have you here on the radio, showed Jimmy is my name? Pleasured,
pleased and thrilled to be here on the program. Tragedy
in Dallas, Texas, the Motherland, the Homeland overnight. A police
officer was shot sitting in his car. They got a
call for officer in distress in Oak Cliff, which is
the south Dallas area near the State near the old
(00:21):
Cotton Bowl, the State Fair area. They're in Dallas, if
you're familiar. A copper shot his car. Officer in distress.
Two other officers showed up and they were also shot,
two of them taking to the hospital. Of course, the
one passed away. The shooter. They don't know his motive,
but the shooter dead as well. So thoughts to the
law enforcement men and women in blue in the Dallas
Fort Worth area this morning, and may God protect all
(00:44):
of our men and women, the first responders out there
across America, across Colorado today is there's some bad people
doing the farious and nasty things out there, and it's
a job I don't want, but I'm glad somebody does
and I'm glad they have it. Let me walk home
to the program. My first guest of the morning, his
name is Jack Cashill. It's written a book called Untenable,
(01:06):
The True Story of White Ethnic Flight from America's Cities.
You hear stories like that they just heard and know.
The violence is up. Karth the f Sharrop Colorado leads
in some categories and some crimes. Beautiful Colorado leads and
some some crime categories. Jack Cashill has written a book
about why people are fleeing some of these cities and
(01:26):
deciding that they well, we're having all sorts of trouble.
Oh there we go. Now my mouth, I think the
battery in the mouse is getting low here. Bringing Jack
Cashell in the program again. Untenable, The True Story of
White Ethnic Flight from America's Cities. Jack Walking with the show.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, hey, Jimmy, thanks, And that's unfortunately the kind of
story we hear too much. You know, my father and
my uncle and several of my cousins are or were
a police officers, So I take that stuff pretty personally. Yeah,
the cities have gotten unfortunately, they've gotten much more criminal
than they ever need to be. We're much more prosperous
(02:00):
country than we were, say, fifty years ago, sixty seven
years ago, but our crime rate is you know, a
murder rate of six eight times higher, despite the fact
that emergency care has improved so much otherwise, to be
twice as high as all that. You know. So it's
and it's a lot of it. It's just a result
of bad public policy and the failure to make changes
(02:21):
when we needed to.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Saw from this book untenable. Obviously, it's a book about
the story of white ethnic flight from America cities. People
are getting the heck out of the cities and say,
enough of this nonsense. What inspired you to actually write
the book and put pen to paper.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Well, you know, Jimmy, the problem. The thing is, when
I started writing, I said, why did I wait so long?
Because I had a front row seat on urban transition.
I grew up in North New Jersey. My neighborhood collapsed
under me. You know, it had been a sort of harmonious,
really congenial, working class neighborhood, mixed ethnic, you know, integrated.
(03:00):
You know, throughout the fifties into the sixties. You could
not have found that, you know, for people without aloting
a lot of money. You couldn't have found them more
harmonious place to live. And then he collapsed, it fell apart.
I mean totally within five ten years is all gone.
So it became untenable. I got the title from a
friend of mine who was the last of my childhood
friends to leave the block, and he was living there
(03:22):
with his widowed mother. Now he's in his twenties. And
I asked him, and he's a Democrat, so he's arguing
against interest here. And I asked him, I said, already,
why did you call me to leave? You know what
what propelled you to leave? He goes, well, young Jacket
became untenable. The neighborhood became untenable. I said, well, what
do you mean, be specific, what do you mean by untenable?
(03:44):
He goes, well, when your home gets invaded for the
second time, that's untenable. When your mother gets mugged for
the second time, that's untenable. And that and a word
is what happens in urban America in the sixties and seventies,
and at a lower pace, is still happening today.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
The worst of Jack Cashier, whose name of his book
is called Untenable, The True Story of White ethnic Flight
from America Cities. Jack eventioned the bad policies. It seems
as if to me, you and I it's kind of
obvious why this happens. You even in some cities had
to defund the police, You have no cash bail, You
have all these policies that don't really put the punishment
(04:23):
on crime and the consequence on crime that maybe should
be there. But nobody seems to be fixing the policy.
Why is it so difficult for some people to see
that they're making these cities.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Untenable because it's politically not in their best interest to
raise the kind of issues that are needed. I'll give
you a quick example. I live in Kansas City, Missouri.
The other night yesterday a Irish proprietor of a bar
and grill, a very popular guy, which is shot and
killed by a couple of teenagers trying to steal his car.
(04:57):
That made the headlines of the Irish time. And the
quick answer for our mayor in Kansas City has always been, well,
you know, if it wasn't for that Republican legislature and
their gun laws, this wouldn't happen. Well, in twenty twenty three,
Kansas City's five hundred thousand people committed one hundred and
eighty five murders are just a couple of miles away.
(05:20):
The city of Oakwon Park, which has two hundred thousand
people and it operates under the same gun laws as
Kansas City, committed one murder, so the murder rate in Kansasity, Missouri,
was seventy four times higher than this neighboring city. The
difference is that neighboring city was in Kansas. They had
(05:42):
the same gun laws, but they had a Republican sheriff,
they had a Republican prosecutor, and they had a mayor
of the city who was non partisan, so there was
no They had no interest in Overwon Park and trying
to promulgate a philosophy down the throats of the people
who lived there.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
The voice of Jack Cashle, the book is untenable. A
jacob A drive just down towards downtown Denver, and a
lot of cities are like this. Every part of the
sky the skyline is being lined with the apartments and
rental properties in Colorado because of some laws, it's very
tough to build something you can actually purchase because of
the construction defect laws. And so there's all these properties
(06:25):
going on and I'm looking at them. If the crime rate,
they're beautiful, I mean the skylined or right next to
the ballparks and all this stuff. And in most instances
you'd say, you know, I wouldn't mind having a second
property there. Maybe that could be a weekend getaway, or
maybe you work down there, and you work, you go
there all the time. It would be a fantastic place
to live, if you didn't know that the crime rates
and a lot of these cities are continuing to go up.
(06:48):
And are are we going to end up in a
situation where the governments and big cities are trying to
force populations into this this dense housing, these dense housing projects,
and you end up stuck there becau there's no where
else to go.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
The goal of city planners for the last twenty thirty
years I've been privy to these conversations has been to
do just that, to compress people in a small area
so they save energy or something. But now it seems
to me in Colorado, if you want to get some
your own apartment building, all you've got to do is
recruited venus, a whale and gang to take it over
for you. You know, and there you are. Now I
(07:22):
can get rid of the venezuela and gangs. But one added,
that's what Colorado is known for today. They to say it, Yeah, nationally,
that's the story is getting a lot of attention, and
it's we already have our home grown problem. Why are
we importing the problem on travel of our problem?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah? Right, Uh's problem.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I supply. And that's what's frustrating about it.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah, it is the name of the book is called Untenable,
The True Story of White Ethnic Flight from america Cities.
Give us the five thirty seconds, give us the takeaway
from the book in conclusion, What will you draw from
reading this book.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Inconclusion is when the society's out to destroy the American family,
they have to live in the ruins of that destruction.
And that's the bottom line. They've noticed that the issue
since mooint Ahand did his famous report sixty years ago,
the destruction of the black family particularly has been catastrophic
for the black community and the surrounding neighborhoods as well.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Jack Cashel independent writer, documentary producer, media consulting. His latest
book is called Untenable, The True Story of White Ethnic
Flight from America's city cities. And Jack, I'm guessing that's
available at Amazon and everywhere the good books are sold.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Sir, Yeah, everywhere their good books are sold exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
You got a Jack Cashill Yeah, go ahead, than.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
All, sir. I just want to say that, thanks that,
I appreciate your time.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
You got a Jack Cashell again. The name of the book,
I'll say it again, Untenable, The true story of white
ethnic flight from Americans from America's cities. All right, it's
a break time. It looks like here coming up. If
you want to jump in. Let me give you some
emails though. Way to contact me Jimmy Lakey and iHeartMedia
dot com Jimmy Lakey at iHeartMedia dot com. Also, I'll
(09:02):
log into the social sites Facebook dot com, slash Jimmy
Lakey fan page, the tweeter verse or the x verse.
Wherever we call that now is just my name, j
I M M Y L A K E Y Jimmy Lakey. Yeah,
just look for me. I'm out there. As Dion Sanders says,
I ain't hard to find, and I'll be back here
in just a moment. You'll find me at the other
(09:23):
end of this commercial. Break stand by six hundred KC
O L
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