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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, glad to have you here. I'm a lagos
Jimmy Lakey pleasure please thrilled, and I'm just tingling all over,
just knowing that you and I are together on the
radio at least for two more hours than Clay Travis,
buck Sexton, the big dogs of talk radio make it in.
I'm just a small chi wahwa. Don't forget that, the
redheaded step child of the talk radio family. But I'm
(00:21):
used to it, and I take the therapy and pills
and things like that. It's all good. Good to have
you here on the show. And if you're new to
the program. A couple of ways to contact me. Jimmy
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And also the phone number eighty six six eight fifty
four to forty nine. Very active on the Twitter last
(00:43):
night the X what do we call it now? I
just go to my name Jimmy Leaky. You can also
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Jimmy Lakey fan page. You get the idea. I ain't
hard to find I'm out there, kind of like Dean
Sanders said, I ain't hard to find before I go
to my guest Paul, and so I want to play
this audio and commemoration of the lives lost twenty three
(01:05):
years ago today, twenty three years ago, at this very moment,
America was under attack September the eleventh, two thousand and one.
This is some audio from New York City. They were
about two thousand or so, sixteen hundred calls I believe,
firefighters calling in and officials calling in on September the eleventh,
(01:26):
nine to one one calls. Nineteen firefighters called in, two mts.
Nineteen firefighters EMTs died that day. Here's the tapes, not
all of them. That this came out a couple of
years after September the eleventh. The tape, if you put
all the nine one one calls that came in, it
would run over twelve hours. But here is a sample
(01:48):
of what the nine to one to one operators were
hearing on September the eleventh, two thousand and one.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
We arrested, I can't pull off a down five. We
take it to our radio. Okay. The nineteen Northfield and
Northfield hard who came down, and one just came down.
Now on firefighters and coffers. Twos really big. You're gonna
have thousands of dead rush really big.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Five unconscious people in the lobby of ninety William Street came.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Hold high.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Y William Street.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, oh my god. Yeah, this is horrible. Is it horrible?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
There you have it if you played all the tapes
that'd run together for over twelve hours. But that's just
a sample that originally ran. I tell you how far
times have come. That ran on August the sixteenth, two
thousand and six, So that was five years after the
attack on September eleventh, and that aired on the Sean Hannity.
Hannity and Colmes, remember the Allen Colmes that was still
(02:50):
on back then. Allen Colmes Sean Handity, two thousand and six.
All right, let me go to my guest here. We'll
switch gears. Talk about the VA, the Veterans Administration, on
this glorious state the Lord has made. Paul Lawrence is
on the hotline. He was, he's the former VA undersecretary again,
Paul Lawrence, He's I don't think anybody knows more about
(03:11):
veterans benefits in America than Paul Lawrence. Does Paul Lawrence
Welcome back to the show, sir, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Hey, great to be with you again, Jimmy, and thanks
for your continued focus on our veterans.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I appreciate you hopping on the program. A story that
kind of has my attention I know you want to
talk about is back in twenty eighteen, there was a
law that was signed in called the Mission Act. And
I'll let you break down. The Mission Act basically said
veterans can go other places if the VA facility is
too far away to get healthcare. But you're saying that
the government's not kind of fulfilling all their obligations regarding
(03:43):
the twenty eighteen Mission Act.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
That's right. As you can imagine, when veterans go off
the service, they come back, they want their benefits and
their healthcare fast. And one of the things President Trump
recognized in twenty eighteen was said, of driving three hours
to go to a VA medical center. When you drive
through town and there's a hospital or medical providers right there,
veterans should have choice, right, depending upon how far you
(04:06):
have to drive and how long it takes to get
an appointment to go to the community. And that's what
the Mission Act said in place the ability of veterans
to have choice, and so that kind of went well
until the Biden Harris team took over, and lately they've
been refusing veterans their rights under the law to give
them community care, telling them instead come to the VA,
withdrawing that choice. So veterans are really suffering. And you
(04:28):
can imagine someone wanting mental health care. They don't want
to be told weight or drive long or stuff like that.
So it isn't just a trivial thing. It actually has
pretty some pretty and profound effects.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
So what is going wrong? The Mission Act obviously well intended,
signed many years ago now, and it's supposed to be
taking care of veterans.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Where's the downfall here, Well, it's just a VA. They're
refusing to do it. They would rather have veterans come
into the VA medical centers, even though it's inconvenience for
the veterans or not timely. I mean, the law lays
out the requirements is that if you can't get an
appointment or twenty or thirty days and you have to
drive thirty or sixty minutes, you're entitled to community care.
And they're just ignoring that and saying, you know, it's
(05:12):
too expensive, it's inconvenient, you have to come into the VA.
So it's VA breaking the law.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
What's the recourse here, because you know, when you hear
the phrase breaking the law, if you and I break
the law, there's some kind of a ramification for that,
a ticket, a fine, a jangle time you can't break
the law. But evidently, I guess if you're the VA,
you just get to ignore what you're oversight and what
the Congress tells you.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
That's right. Well, veterans have a couple choices. One is
they can know the word called the access standards, the
rule I just cited, how far to drive, how far?
How long you wait and talk to the VA when
they try to make an appointment, say I know my rights.
If you're unhappy there, you can go to each hospital
has a patient advocate. If you're unhappy there, you can
go to the director of the medical facinity facility. If
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you're unhappy there. Sadly, you can go to Congress and
get them to look on look in on you. But
the other fact of the matter is the real big
thing is veterans have to register and they have to
vote for President Trump. To bring back his leaderships actually
follow the law and give veterans choice.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
You know, the VA sadly should not be a political thing.
It shouldn't change on a whim based on who's in
the oval office. But you're saying it does. You're saying
that because you don't have a president that's cognitively focused
on this thing, that the veterans themselves may suffer. You know,
not do you think of the front line of battle,
(06:37):
who do you want to be your commander and chief
sends you to war? But the VA's actually politicized. It's
a political appointment, and you've got to have the right
person focused of putting the right person in place.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
That's exactly right. And if you just contrasted what happened
under President Trump, the leaders of the VA were all veterans.
These folks are not veterans, and so I'm not so
certain they understand it. And it's kind of hard to
imagine someone running the irs is never pay taxes or
this is not a lawyer. So I really do think
it does really matter who you choose.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
The voice of Paul Lawrence, he was the undersecretary, the
Undersecretary of Benefits under President Trump, talking about the Mission Act.
How is anybody in d C. I mean, obviously the
media is not talking about it. Is there anybody in
Congress that's really championing this fact that the VA is
breaking the law that was passed by Congress into Mission Act?
(07:26):
Is this on anybody's radar screen besides you and me?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah? A representative Mike Boss from Indiana. He's the head
of the House Veterans Affairs Committee. He holds hearing on
this all the time and ask for them to provide
information about how they're helping veterans this way. But of
course VA stalls and doesn't answer the letters or gives
you unclear information. So it really is frustrating.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I know you've written about many times and done a
lot of talking about VA's benefits. I'm gonna come back
to the Mission Act, but real quick, if there's a
veteran out there, this is it, Okay. I'm afraid of
the VA. I don't know how to navigate this. I've
been denied. They've got frustration. Is there a resource they
can go to? Is there a website? I mean you
mentioned a bunch of people they can go to, or
(08:12):
a bunch of people they can call what's kind of
the starting point to break it down to somebody that says, listen,
I'm just trying to live my life. I'm just trying
to get the healthcare I need. I didn't want to
have to get stuck on hold for four hours. I
don't want to have to travel forty eight different places
to get answers, where do you start and what's the
most simple way for a veteran to access the benefits
that are do them?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Certainly one of the easiest ways is to have a
veteran get the assistance from what's called a Veteran service officer.
These are people who've been trained in the VA processes
and they help veterans at no cost. From your state
to the Colorad Department of Veterans Affairs, they have service
officers so you can contact them. You'll get one assigned,
and he or she can help you navigate the process.
(08:54):
But also don't forget any decision VA makes you can appeal,
so they can actually help you heal a decision you're
unhappy with. So I wouldn't be discouraged if the first
decision was not one you liked, I would get a
service officer and I would you know, you know, get
as much help as you can to get what you earned.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Paul Lawrence is my is my guest, and it's fascinating.
What do people need to do. I'm kind of hearing
this getting a little pissed off myself, going, how dare
these this bureaucracy known as the Veterans Administration stand in
the way of what Congress has deemed is as a
is a benefit that veterans should get is calling your
(09:33):
member of Congress? Is there something that the average citizen
can do. Maybe we're not affected by the VA system ourself,
but we get ticked off hearing that the bureaucrats of
the VA are really not being good to our veterans.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Absolutely, so everybody should call their Congress person and you know,
get them focused on veterans issues. I mean, as you know,
as fewer and fewer people serve, less and less people
generally care understand what veterans go through. But this is
broadly part of our national secure curity thing too, right,
So if this doesn't work, why would anybody enlist? So
I do think that two are connected. And when you
(10:06):
see your representative at a town hall or those things like,
ask them say, how do you stand on veterans issues?
Are you protecting their rights and their benefits?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Paul Lawrence? I appreciate your time always, and I know
you've written books about this and for veterans. If folks
want to reach out read some of your writings, where
do they go for that? And then again I'll ask
you one more.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Question, certainly, Well, the best way to find me is
I put a lot of stuff about veterans issues on
LinkedIn under my name Paul Lawrence, and my books available
on Amazon.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Paul Lawrence. Again, to the veterans out there, if you
give them their rights again, the law states that did
they have to travel more than this or wait longer
than this, then they are able to have access community
care and not have to go to VA facility. What
are the boundaries of the Mission Act? One more time?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah, so they they should look this up. It's called
the Mission Act. And what I'm about to tell you
the access standards. If you have to travel more than
thirty or sixty minutes depending upon the type of care
you need, or they can't get you an appointment either
in twenty or thirty days. Again to depend them on
type of the care you are entitled under the law
to get community care. Have those standards with you and
(11:16):
understand and when you deal with the VA and remind
them of them.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Paul Lawrence, it is a pleasure, my friend. God bless
you fighting for the veterans. I appreciate to bring awareness here.
You let in our program do that, Paul Lawrence. Look
up his books and look him up on the LinkedIn.
A lot of his writings and his nobody knows the
benefits of her veterans better. And he was the VA
undersecretary under President Trump for the topic of benefits. So
thanks Paul for popping on the program. All right, good
(11:42):
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All right, let me do a little bit more audio here.
I think it's I think this is one of the
first nine to one one calls. Sorry, I got a
(13:14):
computer issue that's plaguing me. Here okay, here we go.
This is one of the first nine one one calls
that happened twenty three years ago today, and it's a
nine to one one call that the more you hear them,
knowing that these people didn't get out of this alive,
they're more heartbreaking. Here's a tape of a man calling
to help for help from one of the towers above
where the plane fit, and then the operator just said, hey,
(13:37):
sit tied. This is from the Today Show in two
thousand and six. A lot of these audio tapes didn't
come out for years. They have two heart wrenching tied
up in investigations and hearings in this two thousand and five,
two thousand and six, before we started hearing kind of
the trauma that was happening on the nine one one calls.
But the operators we're fielding calls. Here's one of the
first calls from September the eleventh, two thousand and two
(14:01):
thousand and one.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
This from outside the windows down. All right, we're on
the way. We're on the way, sir. Okay, all right, right,
just keep the windows open. If you can open up
windows and just sit tight, it's gonna be a while
because it's a fire going on down the stairs. Open
the windows unless okay, just sit tight there, all right,
just sit tight. We're on the way, all right.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
You heard sit tight. We can't open the windows that
unless we break them. Okay, sit tight. I've got a
longer version of that. Let me see if this ads
a little bit more insight. This is the longer version
of the man uh, the operator tells him to sit tight.
In this version, it's clear just how confused the situation
was because we've got a fire downstairs. You're tall about smoke.
(14:43):
Just break a window. We can't break We open the window.
We can open a window. Three. This is the longer version,
just kind of outlining the moment of the chaos at
that moment.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, Hi, I'm on the Hunt and sixth floor of
the Wheel Trade Center. We just had an explosion on
the Hunt Hunter and floor. So one don't think, yes, fire,
we have hold on. Let me come into where okay, here,
we can't get down the stairs. Yeah, it's slow. We
had about a half of people up here. Sit tight.
(15:14):
You do not leave, okay, there's a fire or explosion
of something in the building. All right, I want you
to stay where you are, yeah, from outside the windows.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Just keep the windows open, if you can open up
windows and.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Just sit tight. It's gonna be a while because it's
a foy going on down the stairs in the windows. Left. Okay,
just sit tight there, all right, Just sit tight. We're
on the way, all right, all right.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
And they just sat there and sat there, many of
them just sat there until one day they were on
the ground. But unfortunately they were not alive when they
hit the ground September the eleventh. It's it's a day
that we should remember, and I hope we do remember.
In a world that is divided. Just go back in
that emotional time of life. And again I can. I
can still go back to that morning, rushing as quickly
(15:58):
as I could to the radio station to get there,
and realized we're not going on air that day because
they had syndicated all the programming and clicked over and
I think we were in a straight CNN radio feed
at that time and just trying to get any information
we could. But I just stood there for hours waiting
to go on the air, and went on air for
a brief time on one of our sister stations at
(16:18):
the time, but as a long time ago, it seems,
And yet I can still recount a lot of the
details of that day in Colorado as I got the
news of what had happened in New York City, and
then the Pentagon and then anybody remember the days after
September the eleventh, the empty skies. I just it was
so empty. All the flights were grounded, people stranded, people
(16:41):
driving halfway across the country renting cars. There were flights.
And then I went actually and spoke at an event
the Christmas after, like three or four months later. That
was my first time back to an airport after septeb
was speaking, got an event in New York and got
picked up at Laguardias where I flew into and or
(17:03):
maybe it might have been in JFK, that's irrelevant. And
then I went to a little bit outside a little upstate,
but drove by the big hole in the ground that
was just afterwards, and it was tense. You got on
that airplane and a lot of folks hadn't been on
since September eleventh, and it's Christmas season, and it was
(17:23):
a little intense as sure was I'll be back in
a moment. Laky six hundred kse col stand by
All right, glad to have you here. I'm a lagos
Jimmy Lakey pleasure please thrilled, and I'm just tingling all over,
just knowing that you and I are together on the
radio at least for two more hours than Clay Travis,
buck Sexton, the big dogs of talk radio make it in.
I'm just a small chi wahwa. Don't forget that, the
redheaded step child of the talk radio family. But I'm
(00:21):
used to it, and I take the therapy and pills
and things like that. It's all good. Good to have
you here on the show. And if you're new to
the program. A couple of ways to contact me. Jimmy
Lakey at iHeartMedia dot com. That's my email address. I'll
read some emails here momentarily Jimmy Leakey at iHeartMedia dot com.
And also the phone number eighty six six eight fifty
four to forty nine. Very active on the Twitter last
(00:43):
night the X what do we call it now? I
just go to my name Jimmy Leaky. You can also
direct message me privately there Truthsocial, Facebook dot com, slash
Jimmy Lakey fan page. You get the idea. I ain't
hard to find I'm out there, kind of like Dean
Sanders said, I ain't hard to find before I go
to my guest Paul, and so I want to play
this audio and commemoration of the lives lost twenty three
(01:05):
years ago today, twenty three years ago, at this very moment,
America was under attack September the eleventh, two thousand and one.
This is some audio from New York City. They were
about two thousand or so, sixteen hundred calls I believe,
firefighters calling in and officials calling in on September the eleventh,
(01:26):
nine to one one calls. Nineteen firefighters called in, two mts.
Nineteen firefighters EMTs died that day. Here's the tapes, not
all of them. That this came out a couple of
years after September the eleventh. The tape, if you put
all the nine one one calls that came in, it
would run over twelve hours. But here is a sample
(01:48):
of what the nine to one to one operators were
hearing on September the eleventh, two thousand and one.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
We arrested, I can't pull off a down five. We
take it to our radio. Okay. The nineteen Northfield and
Northfield hard who came down, and one just came down.
Now on firefighters and coffers. Twos really big. You're gonna
have thousands of dead rush really big.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Five unconscious people in the lobby of ninety William Street came.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Hold high.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Y William Street.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, oh my god. Yeah, this is horrible. Is it horrible?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
There you have it if you played all the tapes
that'd run together for over twelve hours. But that's just
a sample that originally ran. I tell you how far
times have come. That ran on August the sixteenth, two
thousand and six, So that was five years after the
attack on September eleventh, and that aired on the Sean Hannity.
Hannity and Colmes, remember the Allen Colmes that was still
(02:50):
on back then. Allen Colmes Sean Handity, two thousand and six.
All right, let me go to my guest here. We'll
switch gears. Talk about the VA, the Veterans Administration, on
this glorious state the Lord has made. Paul Lawrence is
on the hotline. He was, he's the former VA undersecretary again,
Paul Lawrence, He's I don't think anybody knows more about
(03:11):
veterans benefits in America than Paul Lawrence. Does Paul Lawrence
Welcome back to the show, sir, Good morning.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Hey, great to be with you again, Jimmy, and thanks
for your continued focus on our veterans.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I appreciate you hopping on the program. A story that
kind of has my attention I know you want to
talk about is back in twenty eighteen, there was a
law that was signed in called the Mission Act. And
I'll let you break down. The Mission Act basically said
veterans can go other places if the VA facility is
too far away to get healthcare. But you're saying that
the government's not kind of fulfilling all their obligations regarding
(03:43):
the twenty eighteen Mission Act.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
That's right. As you can imagine, when veterans go off
the service, they come back, they want their benefits and
their healthcare fast. And one of the things President Trump
recognized in twenty eighteen was said, of driving three hours
to go to a VA medical center. When you drive
through town and there's a hospital or medical providers right there,
veterans should have choice, right, depending upon how far you
(04:06):
have to drive and how long it takes to get
an appointment to go to the community. And that's what
the Mission Act said in place the ability of veterans
to have choice, and so that kind of went well
until the Biden Harris team took over, and lately they've
been refusing veterans their rights under the law to give
them community care, telling them instead come to the VA,
withdrawing that choice. So veterans are really suffering. And you
(04:28):
can imagine someone wanting mental health care. They don't want
to be told weight or drive long or stuff like that.
So it isn't just a trivial thing. It actually has
pretty some pretty and profound effects.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
So what is going wrong? The Mission Act obviously well intended,
signed many years ago now, and it's supposed to be
taking care of veterans.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Where's the downfall here, Well, it's just a VA. They're
refusing to do it. They would rather have veterans come
into the VA medical centers, even though it's inconvenience for
the veterans or not timely. I mean, the law lays
out the requirements is that if you can't get an
appointment or twenty or thirty days and you have to
drive thirty or sixty minutes, you're entitled to community care.
And they're just ignoring that and saying, you know, it's
(05:12):
too expensive, it's inconvenient, you have to come into the VA.
So it's VA breaking the law.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
What's the recourse here, because you know, when you hear
the phrase breaking the law, if you and I break
the law, there's some kind of a ramification for that,
a ticket, a fine, a jangle time you can't break
the law. But evidently, I guess if you're the VA,
you just get to ignore what you're oversight and what
the Congress tells you.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
That's right. Well, veterans have a couple choices. One is
they can know the word called the access standards, the
rule I just cited, how far to drive, how far?
How long you wait and talk to the VA when
they try to make an appointment, say I know my rights.
If you're unhappy there, you can go to each hospital
has a patient advocate. If you're unhappy there, you can
go to the director of the medical facinity facility. If
(06:01):
you're unhappy there. Sadly, you can go to Congress and
get them to look on look in on you. But
the other fact of the matter is the real big
thing is veterans have to register and they have to
vote for President Trump. To bring back his leaderships actually
follow the law and give veterans choice.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
You know, the VA sadly should not be a political thing.
It shouldn't change on a whim based on who's in
the oval office. But you're saying it does. You're saying
that because you don't have a president that's cognitively focused
on this thing, that the veterans themselves may suffer. You know,
not do you think of the front line of battle,
(06:37):
who do you want to be your commander and chief
sends you to war? But the VA's actually politicized. It's
a political appointment, and you've got to have the right
person focused of putting the right person in place.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
That's exactly right. And if you just contrasted what happened
under President Trump, the leaders of the VA were all veterans.
These folks are not veterans, and so I'm not so
certain they understand it. And it's kind of hard to
imagine someone running the irs is never pay taxes or
this is not a lawyer. So I really do think
it does really matter who you choose.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
The voice of Paul Lawrence, he was the undersecretary, the
Undersecretary of Benefits under President Trump, talking about the Mission Act.
How is anybody in d C. I mean, obviously the
media is not talking about it. Is there anybody in
Congress that's really championing this fact that the VA is
breaking the law that was passed by Congress into Mission Act?
(07:26):
Is this on anybody's radar screen besides you and me?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah? A representative Mike Boss from Indiana. He's the head
of the House Veterans Affairs Committee. He holds hearing on
this all the time and ask for them to provide
information about how they're helping veterans this way. But of
course VA stalls and doesn't answer the letters or gives
you unclear information. So it really is frustrating.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I know you've written about many times and done a
lot of talking about VA's benefits. I'm gonna come back
to the Mission Act, but real quick, if there's a
veteran out there, this is it, Okay. I'm afraid of
the VA. I don't know how to navigate this. I've
been denied. They've got frustration. Is there a resource they
can go to? Is there a website? I mean you
mentioned a bunch of people they can go to, or
(08:12):
a bunch of people they can call what's kind of
the starting point to break it down to somebody that says, listen,
I'm just trying to live my life. I'm just trying
to get the healthcare I need. I didn't want to
have to get stuck on hold for four hours. I
don't want to have to travel forty eight different places
to get answers, where do you start and what's the
most simple way for a veteran to access the benefits
that are do them?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Certainly one of the easiest ways is to have a
veteran get the assistance from what's called a Veteran service officer.
These are people who've been trained in the VA processes
and they help veterans at no cost. From your state
to the Colorad Department of Veterans Affairs, they have service
officers so you can contact them. You'll get one assigned,
and he or she can help you navigate the process.
(08:54):
But also don't forget any decision VA makes you can appeal,
so they can actually help you heal a decision you're
unhappy with. So I wouldn't be discouraged if the first
decision was not one you liked, I would get a
service officer and I would you know, you know, get
as much help as you can to get what you earned.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Paul Lawrence is my is my guest, and it's fascinating.
What do people need to do. I'm kind of hearing
this getting a little pissed off myself, going, how dare
these this bureaucracy known as the Veterans Administration stand in
the way of what Congress has deemed is as a
is a benefit that veterans should get is calling your
(09:33):
member of Congress? Is there something that the average citizen
can do. Maybe we're not affected by the VA system ourself,
but we get ticked off hearing that the bureaucrats of
the VA are really not being good to our veterans.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Absolutely, so everybody should call their Congress person and you know,
get them focused on veterans issues. I mean, as you know,
as fewer and fewer people serve, less and less people
generally care understand what veterans go through. But this is
broadly part of our national secure curity thing too, right,
So if this doesn't work, why would anybody enlist? So
I do think that two are connected. And when you
(10:06):
see your representative at a town hall or those things like,
ask them say, how do you stand on veterans issues?
Are you protecting their rights and their benefits?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Paul Lawrence? I appreciate your time always, and I know
you've written books about this and for veterans. If folks
want to reach out read some of your writings, where
do they go for that? And then again I'll ask
you one more.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Question, certainly, Well, the best way to find me is
I put a lot of stuff about veterans issues on
LinkedIn under my name Paul Lawrence, and my books available
on Amazon.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Paul Lawrence. Again, to the veterans out there, if you
give them their rights again, the law states that did
they have to travel more than this or wait longer
than this, then they are able to have access community
care and not have to go to VA facility. What
are the boundaries of the Mission Act? One more time?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah, so they they should look this up. It's called
the Mission Act. And what I'm about to tell you
the access standards. If you have to travel more than
thirty or sixty minutes depending upon the type of care
you need, or they can't get you an appointment either
in twenty or thirty days. Again to depend them on
type of the care you are entitled under the law
to get community care. Have those standards with you and
(11:16):
understand and when you deal with the VA and remind
them of them.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Paul Lawrence, it is a pleasure, my friend. God bless
you fighting for the veterans. I appreciate to bring awareness here.
You let in our program do that, Paul Lawrence. Look
up his books and look him up on the LinkedIn.
A lot of his writings and his nobody knows the
benefits of her veterans better. And he was the VA
undersecretary under President Trump for the topic of benefits. So
thanks Paul for popping on the program. All right, good
(11:42):
to have you here on the show. Jimmy, is my name?
A phone call? I hope you never have to make
is to Dan Caplis. I mean you can call us
radio show if you're friends with him, or to call
him for his birthday. But on a professional level, Dan Caplis, well,
he's a lawyer, and he's a lawyer that's well known
in his field. A matter of fact, he's been named
a Colorado Super Lawyer. And he's a lawyer that basically
(12:06):
when he jumps on a case with you, uh, those
insurance companies take him seriously. See he takes on a
serious firm for serious cases. He takes on righteous injury cases,
wrongful death cases. He takes those on a percentage fee basis,
and that means good people from all walks of life,
without regard to their ability to pay, get that elite
level of legal representation that's usually only reserve for the
(12:27):
rich and the powerful out there. You got to reach
out to Dan Capless again. He takes these, takes them
on a percentage fee basis, and that means you're going
to get elite care, and those insurance companies are going
to start taking you seriously, and you're going to get
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All right, let me do a little bit more audio here.
I think it's I think this is one of the
first nine to one one calls. Sorry, I got a
(13:14):
computer issue that's plaguing me. Here okay, here we go.
This is one of the first nine one one calls
that happened twenty three years ago today, and it's a
nine to one one call that the more you hear them,
knowing that these people didn't get out of this alive,
they're more heartbreaking. Here's a tape of a man calling
to help for help from one of the towers above
where the plane fit, and then the operator just said, hey,
(13:37):
sit tied. This is from the Today Show in two
thousand and six. A lot of these audio tapes didn't
come out for years. They have two heart wrenching tied
up in investigations and hearings in this two thousand and five,
two thousand and six, before we started hearing kind of
the trauma that was happening on the nine one one calls.
But the operators we're fielding calls. Here's one of the
first calls from September the eleventh, two thousand and two
(14:01):
thousand and one.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
This from outside the windows down. All right, we're on
the way. We're on the way, sir. Okay, all right, right,
just keep the windows open. If you can open up
windows and just sit tight, it's gonna be a while
because it's a fire going on down the stairs. Open
the windows unless okay, just sit tight there, all right,
just sit tight. We're on the way, all right.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
You heard sit tight. We can't open the windows that
unless we break them. Okay, sit tight. I've got a
longer version of that. Let me see if this ads
a little bit more insight. This is the longer version
of the man uh, the operator tells him to sit tight.
In this version, it's clear just how confused the situation
was because we've got a fire downstairs. You're tall about smoke.
(14:43):
Just break a window. We can't break We open the window.
We can open a window. Three. This is the longer version,
just kind of outlining the moment of the chaos at
that moment.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, Hi, I'm on the Hunt and sixth floor of
the Wheel Trade Center. We just had an explosion on
the Hunt Hunter and floor. So one don't think, yes, fire,
we have hold on. Let me come into where okay, here,
we can't get down the stairs. Yeah, it's slow. We
had about a half of people up here. Sit tight.
(15:14):
You do not leave, okay, there's a fire or explosion
of something in the building. All right, I want you
to stay where you are, yeah, from outside the windows.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Just keep the windows open, if you can open up
windows and.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Just sit tight. It's gonna be a while because it's
a foy going on down the stairs in the windows. Left. Okay,
just sit tight there, all right, Just sit tight. We're
on the way, all right, all right.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
And they just sat there and sat there, many of
them just sat there until one day they were on
the ground. But unfortunately they were not alive when they
hit the ground September the eleventh. It's it's a day
that we should remember, and I hope we do remember.
In a world that is divided. Just go back in
that emotional time of life. And again I can. I
can still go back to that morning, rushing as quickly
(15:58):
as I could to the radio station to get there,
and realized we're not going on air that day because
they had syndicated all the programming and clicked over and
I think we were in a straight CNN radio feed
at that time and just trying to get any information
we could. But I just stood there for hours waiting
to go on the air, and went on air for
a brief time on one of our sister stations at
(16:18):
the time, but as a long time ago, it seems,
And yet I can still recount a lot of the
details of that day in Colorado as I got the
news of what had happened in New York City, and
then the Pentagon and then anybody remember the days after
September the eleventh, the empty skies. I just it was
so empty. All the flights were grounded, people stranded, people
(16:41):
driving halfway across the country renting cars. There were flights.
And then I went actually and spoke at an event
the Christmas after, like three or four months later. That
was my first time back to an airport after septeb
was speaking, got an event in New York and got
picked up at Laguardias where I flew into and or
(17:03):
maybe it might have been in JFK, that's irrelevant. And
then I went to a little bit outside a little upstate,
but drove by the big hole in the ground that
was just afterwards, and it was tense. You got on
that airplane and a lot of folks hadn't been on
since September eleventh, and it's Christmas season, and it was
(17:23):
a little intense as sure was I'll be back in
a moment. Laky six hundred kse col stand by
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