092424 Rachel Gabel

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
And the next two hours or the final stretch of
today's show, and then we'll make way for Clay Travis
and Buck Sexson, and I will pack up my Fisher
Price microphone and move out of the studio so the
big dogs can make their way in. I want to
go to Rachel Gable. We're going to switch gears and
talking about wolves and agriculture and Marlon Reetz and all

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the fun topics right here in the state of Colorado.
But I get a question for you today, right now
in live television breaking news, Joe Biden's arriving at the
United Nations to speak and do his final address as
the President, addressing the United Nations. But here's a good
question for you. I think most people out there agree.
I think both sides agree that Iran is a sponsor
of terrorism, a global sponsor of terrorists. They're a very

(00:43):
bad player. And yet how is it that, in the
name of the United Nations, the United States of America
allows the Iranian president onto American soil this morning to
address the United Nations? Would we have had allowed Adolf
Hitler of allowed? I mean, just the crime. It's just
weird to me that I ran the president of Iran's

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roaming around the streets of New York today as unscathed
and no big deal. We know he's a sponsor of terror,
but he's roaming the streets of New York City. How
serious are we, my friends? How serious are we? And
what the heck's going on? Anyway? Let me switch gears
if I mean. Rachel Gable is my guest. You may
know her from this show, perhaps, but most likely she's

(01:27):
published in the front the Defence Post magazine and she
covers all sorts of agricultural stories for the great state
of Colorado. Rachel, welcome back to the show.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Nice to have you, Thanks for having me. Mister Raike
you good morning.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Well, good morning. Do you I got to ask you here?
There's a story in nine News over the weekend that
Old Marlon Reads, the husband of Jared Poulos, has been
using a government provided email address even though he's not
an employer or an appointee of the government, trying to
I guess, codify and make permanent the protection that Jared

(02:03):
Poulus and him want to have wolves kind of as
the legacy out there talk about this wolf free introduction,
they seem hell bent on it. The agricultural community, farmers
and ranchers and property owners in the mountains are going,
what the heck are we doing? But Marlin is hell
bent on this thing, and he's using a government provided
email to push his agenda.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Oh yes, he is hellbent on that legacy, and it's
turning into a rather odd legacy that isn't exactly panning
out the way that they perhaps thought that it would,
but certainly not unlike a lot of folks that are
boots on the ground in livestock and in livestock production

(02:47):
and hunting and outfitting. These are what's happening, is what
they were warned against and saying, you know, there's six
million people in the state of Colorado. There's a lot
of pressure on the wild places. It's not an appropriate
place for wolves, and it's dangsuer not an appropriate question
to put in front of voters. But that's what they did,
and so he's he's clinging to it with his government email.

(03:12):
I think that's strange. He's certainly not a pointed and
not elected. He is power adjacent at best. But you know,
we've also seen him use Facebook, made himself a gosh
a negative part of Polus's legacy.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah, he's different. He's an albatross around Polus's neck. And
if Polus everyone's ever aspired to go to the national level,
Marlin's going to hold him back. I find it interesting,
and I have some screenshots here. It's there's just the
guy seems to be totally unhinged. I'm told by a
good friend of mine who has a property up in
the mountains. And you may be aware of the same thing,

(03:57):
that Marlin is prone to go in to Facebook groups
and online forums using his name, and he has to
be identified as first gentleman. He puts that. I never
on my Facebook profile. I've never put talk show host
Jimmy Lakey. I just my title doesn't matter. I'm just
Jimmy Lakey. And he's first Gentleman. Marlon reads and he's
out there, and he goes into these forums and pick fights.

(04:19):
And I'm told that once he picks a fight and
people come after him, he deletes his account or disappears
for a while. Is this true, that he's just kind
of a keyboard warrior out there, that's.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
How it appears. Yes, he is. And you know when
you put first gentleman in front of his page, that
makes people associate whatever it is that he's saying with
the police administration in the state of Colorado. So when
he told an outfitter and a rancher last week, shut up,

(04:52):
you don't you know that was flex poorly on the
governor and on the state. When he referred to me
last week, is that illiterate from the since post. You
know that reflects poorly on the date, on the administration.
And he's he's just like you said, and becoming quite

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at albatross. And he's just not nice. And I don't
know as far as unhinged. I've never met the guy,
but if you'll recall on Christmas Eve, he came after
me and advised people not to believe a word I say,
and called me all kinds of names and stopped just
short of saying that I kicked puppies and kittens. But

(05:33):
he's he's unable and unwilling to control his temper or
his typing fingers online, and that's becoming a problem for
Governor Polis.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
I was just kind of doing a little curser research.
And you know, you have Milanya Trump, Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton,
none of them ever put in front of their name
first Lady Martlett just their name and even looked up
Doug Doug imil the second Gentleman. I guess he's calm
his husband, and he doesn't identify himself as second gentleman.

(06:03):
So there's obviously, I think something going on here that
the guy has to on his screen names put his
first gentleman as if that's his relevant title, and his
great accomplishment is marrying a governor, I guess. But what
does it tell you about agriculture and the appreciation our government?
This is a serious topic. He's obviously crazy, he's a

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keyboard warrior, he's an albatross all that. But the problem
is you have farmers, ranchers, property owners that are really
trying to sound an alarm, and you've got Colorado parks
and wildlife seemingly making decisions that are based on science,
not based on experience of other states. And even now
we have a ballot box biology measure that they're going
to bam Mountain lion hunting in Colorado. I mean, it's

(06:47):
a real serious issue besides the silliness of First Gentleman
Marlon Reed's.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
It is, and you know, CPW is working really hard
to repair those relationships with rural Colorado after voters handed
them literally a crap sandwich and said make it happen,
eat it. And so they're trying very hard to repair
those relationships. Meanwhile, Marlon Reese is flitting around on Facebook

(07:16):
and you know, saying mean things. And the bottom line
is Marlon Reese has not one ounce of power in
the state of Colorado, not one ounce. He is power adjacent.
So if the Trump social media handlers think that they
have a challenge, I can only imagine how Polus's media

(07:39):
handlers feel about the First Gentleman. If I were wanting
to go on and repair some relationships and be serious
about fixing things with a forty billion dollar industry in
my state and then move on to some national prominence,
I think I would rain.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
That in the same people though that got very offended
about Trump and his mean tweets. I wonder if they're
bothered about First Gentleman Marlin Reach's mean post and he's
doing these on a regular basis and attacking, as you said,
a forty billion dollar industry. How is it that in
this state, Rachel Gable, my guest Finn's Post magazine, Rachel,

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how is it the state that we keep doing this
ballot box biology. They asked the voters in urban Colorado, Hey,
do you want to put wolves up somewhere else? Oh? Yeah,
put them in someone else's backyard. Now we have a
proposed to ban any kind of a mountain lion hunting.
How is it that these things keep getting on our ballot?
Who's pushing these ballot box biology rather than letting the

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experts make decisions.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Well, it's purely just well funded special interest groups. The
state's citizen led initiative process was meant to allow citizens
to bring forward things that the legislation. Legislators and the
legislature did not take action all that they wanted to
have done. What it's turned into is a weapon for

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well funded special interest groups like Pro Animal Future, who
is in the City and County of Denver trying to
shut down the one lambslaughter house in the City and
County of Denver, the largest in the country, that will
derail the entire lamb industry in the Western US. They're
trying to shut down mountain lion hunting. You know, that

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doesn't keep CPW from managing mountain lions. That makes CPW
do all of the management of mountain lions. Without the
fees and without the funding from outdoorsmen, from hunters, from outfitters,
all of those rural communities lose out on all of
that income and it's disastrous for CPW. And because there's

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six million people in this state, we're going to have
more human wildlife conflicts and we're beginning to.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
See that again. The voice of Rachel Gables. She's with
Sinn's Post magazine, the websites and all that fun stuff.
In just a moment, I want to dive in. You know,
it was the the voters, as you said, give them
a poop sandwich to deal with in the reintroduction of
wolves that ended up on a ballot here. I know
you are in some of these forums and Diet I've

(10:16):
got friends that are in the forums. We've got another
batch of wolves about to be released coming in from Canada.
Canada's like, please take them, We'll give them to you.
It's a real serious issue that's developing and the interaction
between ranchers in the mountains and their livestock is becoming problematic,
and yet we're about to release another round of wolves.

(10:37):
Can you talk some about the damage and what you're
hearing about this dangerous policy that was decided the ballot box.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Of course, we've seen a lot of livestock conflict with
the wolves. We've seen a tremendous loss of livestock. We've
seen lowered weight gain, we've seen lowered you know, breed
pregnancy rates and reproduction rates, and we've seen just stress.

(11:09):
I mean, we're seeing guys that are my age forty
something that are on heart medication because they're so stressed
out because they're not getting any sleep. They're having to
drive around all night because CPW can't tell them where
the wolves are. There's not a range rider, you know,
if there's one, which is fantastic, but they can't cover

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us seventy thousand acres a day and get eyeballs on
every single cow and calf. So it's completely changing how
ranching is done in the high country, and it's making
it impossible for them to go to their kids basketball
game at night, much less make a living. So it

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was wholly unfair to make those decisions be made by
voters that don't have any skin in the game, and
to take that away from cpdas you two a year's
past has said, no, this isn't a good idea and
here are the reasons why. And you know, the CPW
director Jeff Davis was asked flat out by Senator Dylan

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Roberts where all of the wolf conflict has happened in
the Senate district that Dylan Roberts represents. And Roberts flat said,
is Polis calling the shots here? Are you listening only
to him? Or are you listening to your experts, your
your hundreds of wildlife biologists on staff here at GPW

(12:32):
A they are they inserting themselves where they shouldn't because
it certainly appears that way. Now Jeff Davis says that
that's not the case, but you know.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
It doesn't appear that way. And now you see these
emails and in this discovery that Marlon Reeves rather than
Jared Pohl is saying, Hey, the last two years of
my governorship, I'd like the kind of mind defenses and
let's kind of make sure my legacy and that I'm
trying to destroy a billion dollar industry, many billions of
dollars of industry and farmers and ranchers. It seems like

(13:06):
Marlin's out there trying to spend it that he wants
to really lock down some of these crazy policies that
are in place, as opposed to Jared trying to say, Okay,
maybe we went a little too far, maybe we should
fix something. It sounds like we're going to have two
years of doubling down according to what we're discovering about
Marlon Reese out there.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Well, you know, our favorite First Gentleman said the other
day after he returned to social media for a second time,
which coincidentally was timed with the exit of Alec Garnett
as chief of staff. So I almost wonder if that
was Alex's parting gift to the state of Colorado was
shutting down the First Gentleman's Facebook page for a few moments.

(13:46):
But he has doubled down. And you know, the other
day after he came back, he said, well, they're stuck
with me for two more years, and I know how
to push all of their red buttons. Well, and it's
true that all of the folks that are on these
forums need to just ignore the First Gentleman. He's powerless,
he's not nice. They just need to leave it alone.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
You know, I never connected connected the dots that Marlon
disappeared in a huff off social media, and yet the
day the chief of Stafford'sjared Polus left, Marlon reappeared. I
never connected the dots that maybe they were trying to
rain in the old first gentleman's craziness and the person
that had it rained in resigned and Marlon says, I
screw you, I'm back on I'm back.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
It's just my guess, but timing would suggest that that's
what happened.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, talking to Rachel Gable and evidently she lives rent
free in Marlon reach his head, Marlon, I'm talking to
the person in your head right now, and it's Rachel Gable.
If folks want to follow these sagas, and I know
you write abound this at Fence Post, how do they
follow you? And again we got a bunch of city
slickers maybe listening to the show, but they need to

(14:59):
be aware that the farming and ranching, the agriculture lifestyle
in Colorado, which is a huge part of Colorado, is
under assault by ballot box biology and by a governor
and his husband that seem to be held in to
break the industry. How do folks follow along Fencepost and
to keep in touch with you?

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Sure you can find us on Facebook or at the
Fencepost dot com and if you are in town, I
appear Monday. Every Monday, my column appears in the Denver
and Colorado Springs because that's in Colorado Politics, and that's
really where I boil down the big issues and tell you, you know,
give you the big picture and the quick and dirty

(15:38):
version of why you should not vote for the Slaughterhouse band,
why you should not vote to outlaw mountain lion hunting,
where you should not vote for the fur ban. All
of these different special interests led issues, and I give
you some stories about what agriculture looks like from here
on the ground.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
The Fencepost dot dot com you can find her or
again the Gazette and also the Colorado Politics a couple
of times a week. Rachel, you're doing a lot of writing.
Marlon Reid said that you are illiterated. Doesn't sound like
you're illiterate after all.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
I guess not. I'll be darn huh.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Marlon and his mean tweets? Where are all the people
pissed off about the Orange guys mean tweets? What about
Marlon and his mean nastiness on the on the Facebook platforms? Rachel,
I appreciate you hopping on. You're always welcome on the
show and we'll talk. We need to stay in touch
more often, Rachel Gable Thefinspost dot com and stay in
touch again very important. We've got all this stuff that

(16:37):
shows up on our ballad that you may think, oh yeah,
don't kill the pretty pussy cats. I'd be very mean
to hunt him Ountain Line. I know you've got to vote.
Know on that you've got. You've got. The whole wolf
free introduction is devastating for an entire industry, and it
is the legacy Jared Poulos will have that live in
his legacy another one of Jared Poulos. Go ahead and

(16:59):
run for nationalw for Jared. Try to touch your successes.
How about destroying a lot of people in the farming
and ranching industry, and what about the legacy of your husband. Man,
he's a mean tweeter out there, Marlin, the mean tweeter.
I'll be back, Laky six hundred k col Marlin mean
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