100124 Paul Lawrence

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Well, Heidi, ho, neighbor. Good to have you. This is
how the program brought to a dan caplis dan Caplos Law,
a serious firm for serious cases. It's debate day in America.
The vps go out it tonight seven o'clock Mountain time.
You can hear it right here on news Talk six
hundred k col starting up. I'm sure we'll join the

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game a little bit early, but seven o'clock is when
the actual debate starts, and I'll be somebody asks me,
I'll be live tweeting, dear lord, I'll probably be good
to stay awake. You never know, I'll be on the
Twitter machine. I sure will. I Well, you know, you
hang out there if you want to. I'll probably be there.
No promises, though, is to content because I've tried to
put a drinking game together and I can't think of

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anything for the Bingo drinking card game. I just can't
think of anything other than that. Every time they say, Yale,
I don't know what's going to go on there. All right,
let's do some pre debate conversation with a former Undersecretary
of the Veteran's Administration, mister Paul Lawrence, on the hotline.
Friend of the show, Paul, Welcome back to the program
on this debate day in America.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Hey, thanks Demmy for having me back back, and thanks
for your continued advocacy for our veterans.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
I appreciate all the work that you do. And we'll
get people a contact information. I know there's a website
you've been talking. We talked about last time you're on.
But very quickly, let's talk about this debate tonight. Is
there anything that you think either candidate can or will
do that could really persuade somebody. Is this just an
exercise in just entertaining for us the commenting class.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Well, I think they should talk about their records, and
that would be a real contrast. As you know, JD.
Vance began with a difficult homelike, joined the Marines, used
as Gibill to go to college and then graduate from
Yale Law School. As you point out, really the American
dream in ten years and now is a career in
public service. Contrast that with Governor waltsh Right serves in

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the National Guard honorably, but struggles to talk about his
service accurately. The when it was Congress, the one time,
you know, the big vote on veterans issues that gave
veterans choice in terms of where they get their care.
He voted no. And of course when he ran the
National Guard in Minnesota, he didn't call them out when
they were burning down the city. So you really have
a contrast and perspective, and then it gives you a

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window into what they'll do in elected office.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Wall Sevehn. This has not been talked about a lot,
but Walce even here where they've burning down the cities,
they said called them the National Guard. He goes, why,
that's a bunch of eighteen year old cooks. They're not
going to help us. I mean, that's not I used
to serve in that group of people. I would like
to think it's more than a bunch of eighteen year
olds that cook food. They have a better role than that.
But that just shows the disdain that he had from
the organization he used to serve.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, really, that's really kind of sad and lose, and
it reminds you. Of course, you know, they were his team.
That's not how you talk about his team. And then
of course, as you know, when the time came for
them to go to Iraq, he didn't go with his team, right,
he chose not to go. So his you know, his
level of respect for veterans in our trust for him
probably should be low.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Talk about that vote that he made. A lot of
folks aren't aware he he was in Congress, and his
record in Congress has not been talked about, but you've
been following it because he voted. He had the opportunity
to make life better for veterans. And talk about that bill.
What was it?

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Well? Right, So when he was in Congress, he was
on the House Veterans Affairs Committee. So these are the
people who carefully watch over how veterans are taken care of.
And in the summer of twenty eighteen, President Trump introduced
a law called the Mission Act, which gave veterans choices
to where they get their care. So basically, you know,
veterans are driving three hours to a via hospital and
going through town and seeing a local hospital, local doctors,

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and say, why should I do that? So the new
law essentially said, if he can't get an appointment in
thirty days, or he has to travel more than a
certain amount, you can get community care. And basically, when
it came before Congress, it was overwhelmingly voted yes. Then
Congressman Walls voted no. He said it's too expensive, and ironically,
years later VA produces number that is actually cheaper to

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get care in the community than it is for VA
to provide it. So he was wrong and unsupportive, and
I think that really is troublesome. We think about what
he would do in a higher office.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Paul Lawrence my guest, former undersecretary the Veterans Administration. Hopefully
we'll get him back into that administration VAS soon a
great advocate for veterans. Watch the debate. The problem is
a lot of times these kind of issues, veterans issues
don't really come up. I mean, I guess they might
ask Walt tim Walts about his service, which he's had

(04:28):
a tough time keeping his story straight for intense and purpose. Well,
he served honorably, but he has a tough time kind
of stating his name, rank and serial number. I don't
even know if that'll come up today. I don't know
if anything about veterans or even about his service will
come up. I wonder if that's just water on the
bridge and the commentators have forgotten it.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Well, I hope they'll ask him, say, g, you're both veterans.
In office, what would you do to take care of
our veterans so they could contrast their visions, and I
hope J. D. Walsh will do the You know, are
you better off today than you were for you years ago?
So veterans by any measure are not. And then of
course when you add the general economic stuff going on
right prices up twenty percent, but the things veterans buy,

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eggs up fifty percent, gas up about fifty percent. You know, again,
it's really who's gonna watch out for our veterans. And
we have a great contrast in what President Trump did
in his first term.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
I don't want to get to pull you into a
debate that's not your in your world or the Ukraine
and Israel, but here's my perspective. I just want your thought.
I look and I know we need to be involved
in the world, and I Putin's the devil, and I
want Ukraine to win. I get all that. I like Israel,
but you know, I'm looking at this hurricane that hit
the East coast and they're they're suffering out there, and

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yet all the while we have this administration think it's
very giddy about giving eight billion dollars last week they
just kind of came up with to give Ukraine, which
maybe that's great, but what about the hurricane people? What
about the people of Maui? What about our veterans that
are homeless right now? Do you ever kind of think
about that, like, what are we spending all this money on?

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And we have real needs of veterans that literally are
living on the streets, suffering in addiction homelessness, and we
don't seem to be able to come up with eight
billion dollars for them.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, you're right. No, this is a fair question and
is better than a fair question, is the question, And
this is what President and Trump talks about when he
talks about America. First, it is wrong priorities. When veterans
are homeless and folks who are here illegally get access
to luxury hotels and debit cards for food, that is
just miss priorities and something that has to be corrected.

(06:36):
And you're right. I feel for the people in North Carolina.
I was just thinking how to donate this morning and
thinking this is terrible. Where is our military? What are
we doing helping folks outside of the United States when
folks here need our attention? Is absolutely wrong priorities and
some President Trump is very clear on correcting.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Paul Lawrence, my guest. We'll be watching the debate tonight.
He'll be watching it as well. Paul, real quick, last
time you were on the show, we talked about veterans issues,
and you gave out a website and told people kind
of a resource that's available to them, and I want
you to pass that along to any veteran out there again.
Kind of a thumbnail sketch of what we talked about
last time, because veterans sometimes don't realize what's at their fingertips, right.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
I wrote a book based on my time in office
called Veterans Benefits for You, and has all the benefits
in there is easy to read, all in one place,
and you can get it on Amazon. Again. It's called
Veterans Benefits for You and it's less than twenty bucks
and you know, really thousands of dollars of benefits.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Paul Lawrence, thanks for hopping on the program. I will
catch up soon. Thank you very much. Paul Lawrence, former
Deputy Undersecretary for the VA and talking about the debate
and veterans issues for tonight. Veterans Benefits for You, as
the name of the book. Let's just look at Paul
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