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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Seeing an election season. I mentioned this several times and
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even in the closing days, all these polling outfits Fox
New York Times, seeing a polling these are our final
poll numbers, our final poll numbers. And then you hear
that both campaigns are like, hey, we've got internal polls
to show this, And I'm thinking, well, why do the
internal polls show something that candidates rely more on than
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the polls that we're supposed to rely on. What do
these internal polls know that we don't And why don't
the real pollsters that want to give us the truth
actually just do the same method of internal polling. I'm
guessing it's more expensive. I don't know, but both campaigns
are feeling confident based on their internal polls and we
don't know why. But it's fascinating. It's interesting to watch
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this polling game. And will this be the third presidential
race where they I guess miss poll Donald Trump, he's
hard to poll because a lot of folks know the
craziness it's out there. They're like, it's nothing your business,
I'm voting for.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Polling has gotten more and more difficult because they're chasing
cell phones and it's weird. So anyway, it's just fascinating
to watch the polling and a lot of the polling
guys or say, this is our final poll before election night.
The real poll starts now, and so we'll see how
many were accurate. But some people have been geeking out
on these poles for a long time. They've been really
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following these polls, and they've been really pushing them. So
we've been watching every day and I'm stop watching them.
Stop watching them. They're oftentimes inaccurate, and you can just
do your job and don't freak out over the polls.
All right, there's a story out there. I want're bringing
doctor Carol Lieberman on the program. The New York Post
has a story that mental health can be a crisis.
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Remember after Trump one in twenty sixteen, people were screaming.
Given universities here in Colorado had set up counseling centers
for the youngsters that couldn't handle that the Orange guy won,
that Hillary Kenkles Clinton lost, and they have counseling centers
and you could skip class and go and mental health.
It happened there about that in twenty sixteen. And I
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want to bring in doctor Carol Lieberman, because there's a
story out there they're the mental health of the gen
Zers possibly going to be impacted depending on the results
of this election. Doctor Carrol Lieberman, American psychiatrist, welcome to it.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Thank you, good to have you here.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Let's talk about this. You know, I've won some elections,
I've lost some elections. My people have won, my people lost.
I've I've never I've never freaked out too much. But
there are some people that take this way too seriously.
I mean, you have actors threatening that they're going to
leave the country if certain person wins, and things like that.
Then you have this survey that say, the gen zers
out there, they're really really troubled here about this possible
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the election, the presidential election. Is this a new phenomenon?
How did we get to this place in America where
mental health is directly tied to an election.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I think this is the worst. This is we have
been whipped up into the worst state by the media,
by the candidates. This this has been going on. First
of all, Also, it started with Biden, you know, not
being out the candidates that everybody had expected. You know,
we expected it was going to be Biden versus Trump
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and of course, finally people recognized enough, people recognize that, yes,
indeed he does have dementia. I had been talking about
this since twenty twenty when he was in his basement,
so that you know, happened there. And then Kamala popped
out of the woodwork without you know, being without the primaries,
and then Trump has been having law fair and two
assassination attempts so far, and so we have just been
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our heads have been spinning, and then now we're down
to the deadline. There really are. There are lots of
different UH polls, not polls about the candidates, but studies
about there. For example, seventy one percent of people feel
stressed about the election because of the polarization and the misinformation.
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Seventy seven percent feels stressed about the future of our country.
And then my favorite, thirty eight percent of people have
more nightmares in the last six months than ever before.
And these nightmares are about deaths, different ways of dying,
and teeth falling out. Now, Freud said one hundred years ago,
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the teeth falling out signifies deaths. So whether they're having
nightmares about you know, regular deaths or teeth falling out,
it's all about being obsessed with death. We've been made
to feel as though, you know, we're this election, We're
going to all be dying at the end of this election.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Doctor Carol Lieberman, America's psychiatrist, is on the hotline, Doctor Liberman.
I'm sitting here thinking, and again, I'm not as old
as I might sound like an old geezer. But I
don't remember as a kid growing up, I knew I
divided in our household. I remember it was just a
week tike. I remember my mom voted for Jimmy Carter.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
And my dad no.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
My dad voted for Jimmy Carter, my mom didn't, and
there was a little you know, family spad family argument.
You canceled out my vote, but it was all kind
of done within a couple of discussions over over the
dinner table. I don't remember. I never got to vote
for Ronald Reagan. I don't remember people threatening to leave
the country, and the old Gipper was going even though
they accused him of being too old for the job
in Senile. I don't just I don't remember this. I
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do remember they wanted Dick Cheney and George W. Bush
strung up for war crime, so they did kind of
go back crab crazy then, but it just seems to
get worse every election season. And it's the Hollywood is
all Hollywood threatened to leave the country when George W.
Bush was elected for a second term. I mean, but
they never seem to leave, but they make the threats.
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Is there some diagnosis for this time? And then Trump
he's a Nazi and he's all these things they call him,
and yet the first term he didn't prove any of that,
and yet but for some reason he's going to do
it the second term. There's got to be a diagnosis
here somewhere, or maybe it's just I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Will you tell me, Well, there's Trump's arrangement syndrome that
would fit at best, you know, where people have these
outrageous ideas of what Trump is going to do or
not going to do. And yes, calling him Hitler was
pretty much the worst, you know, the most the craziest,
you know, the most desperate and talking about moving. You know,
there are these companies that help people move to another
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country or another state, and apparently forty percent of people
are say that they're considering moving if they don't get
their candidate to win. You know, I wish if these
people in Hollywood did move, it would give a lot
of newcomers and opportunities, So they should move already.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, I mean, I won't say.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I have had some people say if the country goes
the way of Kamala Harrison, Joe Biden, i' may retire
in a different but you know, it's it's a different thing.
I'm leaving the country then, I mean, it's there's just
used to be a different tenure.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Between the two.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Well, I thought about that and said that too, that
if Kamala wins, the problem is that the two places
that I thought I would move to if things got
really bad here are Paris, where I used to live,
and Paris is now overrun by migrants and Israel, and
we know what's going on in Israel. So I'm kind
of stuck. But yes, if Kamala wins, we've this thought,
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and it is, you know, the truth is that it
is going to be destroying the country and it is
going to be a very hard time. There are going
to be a lot of people who are going to
want to leave. But you know, but while we there's
still time, there's still time for people to get out
and vote and that's what they need to do right now.
But I'm calling something an election of stress disorder, and
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that is a constellation of psychological and physical symptoms. So
the psychological symptoms are anxiety and depression and fear and irritation, irritability, anger,
all of these things. And then physically, stress, whether it's
election stress or any kind of stress, attacks whatever part
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of your body is the weakest. So it could be
your cardiac system, or it could be you know, your goal.
You can have ulcers, things like that, whatever. In each
individual's person, Each individual has a certain person what am
I saying? Each individual has a certain part of their
body that is weaker than in other parts, and that's
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what stress effects, whether it's election stress or any kind
of stress. So these are the kinds of things that
people might be feeling.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
You just describe working in a radio business today. That's
what you just described My job, doctor Carol Lieberman. I
might go to and it's not a threat for the election.
It's I do charity working, Rwanda. Matter of fact, next week,
I'm taking golf at the end of the week to
go to do my charity work. Because the stress of
the election season, whether my guy wins or my guy loses.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
It doesn't matter. There's a bigger purpose in life.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
You've got to find that and go do a charity
work for a couple of a couple of weeks. And
I think that's maybe, maybe, maybe that's where we miss it.
We let ourselves, and both sides do it. We let
ourselves so get strung up by the media who are
propagandas that they're script readers and they're reading a script.
They have good hair and good makeup. They don't know
damn thing about politics. They're just reading the script and
the script is an angle, and they're trying to get
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you worked up in a frenzy. Is there a word
of advice to people on both sides to hey, stop it.
Stop letting the media propaganda is you. They just want
eyeballs and clicks all they wanted ratings, but they don't
care about.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Your mental health.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Absolutely well, first of all, you should mix up news
with entertainment, and then mix up what kinds of channels
you're going to for for your news. Don't believe everything
you know, think for yourself. I think that's a wonderful
suggestion that you're going to do charity work. You know,
we can do that at home too. We don't have
to go to Rwanda. But that's that's great, you know
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that you're doing that. But yes, that would be on
ways to sort of recover from the election stress, to
do the charity in your own in your own home
and your own community. There are lots of charities that
need your help here here.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I agree, doctor Lieberman.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
You've got a lot of podcasts, a lot of books
out there, and you've helping parents cope with terrorism around
and the world of violence and bad news, and we're
on the brink of World War three. Vote wisely, my friends,
Vote wisely. If folks want to follow you, get some
of your books, especially parents that have to deal with
the current events around their kids, and understand that we
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live in a nasty, nasty world out there, and people
want to do bad, bad things to good good people.
How do they find, doctor Lieberman, and how do they
find your writings?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Well, the best place for these times is terrorist therapist
dot com. Terrorist therapist dot com. And my book there
is Lions and Tigers and terrorists, Oh my, how to
protect your child in a time of terror, And we're
having all kinds of terror these days, Doctor.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Lieberman, it's always a pleasure. Happy Election Eve to you.
I don't know if you're going to set up milk
and cookies and I for Uncle Sam, but whatever you
do is celebrate accordingly.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
We'll talk soon. I appreciate you. Doctor Carol Lieberman, America's Psychiatrist.
Terrorist Therapist is her podcast, and she's got a lot
of great books and a lot of great podcasts, and
you'll like following her. America's Psychiatrist, doctor Carol Lieberman. I
swear to goodness every time she's on this program. She
got to hang up and call her friend said, you
listen to this guy. He's insane. I have just if
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you ever feel judged, I just feel like she might
judge me sometimes, and yet I have her back on.
I have her back on to judge me some more.
I never asked her if she's diagnosed me yet, I've
never Now I'm not that I'm smarter than that. I'm
not going to ask her that. So now it is true.
Cope with election anxiety. Forty four percent people are making
efforts to avoid the news, thirty five percent are talking
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with friends or family, Twenty nine percent are going to
stay off social medium. Some cases sharing political views with
friends or family. I I do know a couple of people.
This affects way too seriously. Almost half of the respondents
of the poll, according to the New York Post, report
feeling anxious about spending time with family or friends this
upcoming holiday season because of the presidential election. Gen Z
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has the highest percentage of respondents who feel at least
anxious slightly about spending time with friends or family the
holiday season. I know some people that have said, I've
got friends family that's gone crazy on the other side,
and we're going to kind of doing our own holiday thing.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
It's sad.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
It really is sad if you're found yourself in that situation.
When ask which platforms overwhelmed them the most volume, they
have responding public news publications twenty six percent. YouTube is
overwhelming them. TikTok is overwhelming them in Instagram. Also also
important to know that forty percent of the responded stated
they felt overwhelmed by none of the above. So there
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are a group of people that say whatever, but there
are people that take it the way too seriously and
amping up the anxiety meds. It's an interesting study by
the New York Post. Out there and all you got
to do is go back to twenty sixteen and see
what happened. I got to go back home and find
this story. I think at CSU they put up like
medical tents in counseling centers because people just couldn't believe
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a story on there was a survey that a website did.
They did some investigation about which states would survive an
alien invasion the best. And what they did was they
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measured how many UFO signings the place has. They also
measured a landscape and terrain the defense in that area
of science and medical resources plus food and beverage manufacturing.
And what we find out is Colorado's a toss up
a lot of the Western states from the Rocky Mountain West,
the Wellson central planes out of the right mountain west
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and then out to the Pacific coast less likely to
survive an alien invasion. But back east, I think it's
because they have a lot more centralized manufacturing and things
that they're more likely to survive an alien invasion. Well,
a couple of you sent thinking the same way, and
now Colorado's atassa fifty to fifty. You know, but listen,
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if we survive Jared Polus and Jenna Griswoll, we can
survive an alien invasion, right. But I got one person
to send it about Oregon, and one person has said
it about Boulder, and one person said about Oregon. If
they if the aliens landed in Oregon, they're gonna accept
them as what they're gonna let's see, let me read it.
They'll be offered a bag of wheed and accepting as Oregonian.
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That's what Raymond says this morning. Uh, somebody else said, hey, Jimmy,
remember Morgan Mindy, the aliens have already come to Colorado
and they fit right in. For the most part, I
think it's the same, especially if you're in Bolder. I mean,
that's why that's why ABC and people produce more in mind.
He chose Bolder because they said, outside of Hollywood and
outside of Berkeley, where could we go? And maybe an
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alien could actually show up there and live among us.
And yeah, they chose Bolder. Colorado the home of Morcan Mindy.
So there are two good points that Oregonians might accept
the aliens as themselves and get right along. And at
least if the aliens show up in Boulder.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
We know that nan nanu.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
We know that, we know that they're going to be
there hanging out, and they'll fit right in. And now
that I think about aliens in Bolder, it is interesting
that that's where Jared Polus lives. Just I've never put
the two together. But yeah, they're just throwing it out
there for you to contemplate and consider. Yeah, but Colorado
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on this national poll is not it's fifty to fifty
on whether we survive. Now, if you're in Nebraska, yeah,
you're toast. You're on the will not survive an alien
invasion list? Colorado they're not so sure. Fifty to fifty.
Go to Boulder. Aliens survive there all the time. They
live among us. My friends, they live among us. I'll
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be back, Laky, good morning, Megan Barth with me next
on six hundred k col