October 11, 2022 • 20 mins
Welcome to the '5th Thing' with Amy & Kat!! Today’s quote is from the El Arroyo sign “Whenever I read a memoir I think: ‘How did you remember all of that?’” **Bonus quotes from the sign: “Egg salad is still technically chicken salad.” + “No more stress for me. Thanks, I’m full.” + “Are you the ‘password child’ or the ‘reason they drink child’?” + “Amazonesia: When you forget what you ordered this time.” + “If my mouth doesn’t say it, my face will.”
Email time!!! Amy shares emails from Jessica (about getting a tattoo in remembrance of her dad in his handwriting, and Kat shared her tip on getting a tattoo with a THIN needle) + from Chelsea (about how she is flying in solo to Wichita to see the first ever ‘4 Things’ LIVE podcast, which will be a FUN night for sure!!!!) + from Katie (about having body specific goals during eating disorder recovery)!
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Thank you licensed therapist, Kat Defatta, for joining us with her wisdom. You can find her on Instagram: @Kat.Defatta + @YouNeedTherapyPodcast.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Cat And today's quote comes from the Le Royal
sign in Austin, Texas. My favorite sign ever. That's gonna
say my favorite Mexican restaurant, and it is while it
is good, it lands in my top five? What are
your favorite? Top three? I love Chewies, I love Las
(00:27):
Maraccas and East Nashville. Have you ever been there? Oh?
It is so good. I love matt Sel Rancho on
Lamar in Austin. I love Maudi's in Austin. Question, Yeah,
since all those places are in Austin except the one
in East Nahville and Chewies. Is Chewie's the same in
Austin as it is here? Does it taste the same?
(00:48):
I feel like it tastes different to me. But that
could just be because it's in my head because now
it's kind of blown up and gotten bigger. But if
I were to go to the O. G. Chewies in Austin,
which is where I celebrated my sixteenth birthday because I
loved it so much when I was in high school,
it was either going to beat Jewies or mat Sell
Rancho or I had my birthday party and I had
it at that Chewies and that's so good. They're building
(01:12):
one right down the street from me and I will
live there. So El Royo, which I heard, they're opening
up other locations and they're even to start selling food. Oh,
I don't know, the grocery sauces and maybe margarita mix
and I don't know. Do you think their sign is
what has blown them up? If it is, I'll take it. Yeah,
(01:32):
so good. They have the cutest merch to these signs.
By the way, they make coasters, coffee mugs, dish towels,
so you can go to their site and get merched.
That's what I had it on our Christmas gift list
idea last Christmas. If you have a coffee lover, get
them like a really nice bag of coffee, probably from
Roothouse Coffee, shot out my sister, and then get on
(01:56):
a super cute, funny El Royo sign mug with a
saying that would resonate with them. That would be cute. Okay, Well,
let me read the one that I wanted to share
for today that I saw them posts and it's whenever
I read a memoir, I'm like, how did you remember
all that and it's so true. A second that yes,
(02:17):
that it is the stories they tell, and I'm like,
the details of these stories did you had to make
some of this up? Read green Light, Matthew McConaughey that
I had to stop reading it because I was like,
this isn't all true. It was too detailed, and it
felt like he just was like writing fun stories that
not fun. They weren't all fun, but it felt like
he was writing a story, not like But here's the
(02:38):
thing about what he said that he has done for
a really long time is he's a journal er, so
he has really good notes. He he he journals. What
were you thinking? I was going to say, Well, I
was thinking there was some quote in that book about
being a B s R. And I felt like that
was like maybe some foreshadowing too, the fact that he
might be be asking some of the content in there.
(03:01):
Maybe he's not. I hope, Matthew McConaughey. I really think
that you're a great guy. He's listening. Don't worry. But
I even if I had journaled, I don't know how
to be able to like remember the details of what
people said. I agree with a sign and I feel
like I need that sign on a mug. Some of
the other ones that I'll just say, eggs salad is
still technically chicken salad. Get it? Yeah, I do get it.
(03:27):
Get it. That's what said. Okay, no more stress for me. Thanks,
I'm full. I like that one. Oh yeah, I'm telling
you what. I'm ready for the stress to go away,
totally full. Pants are busting at the seams. Are you
(03:47):
the password child or the reason they drink child? Get it? Yeah?
What are you? Um? My parents for me? Honestly, my
sister people would probably think she was more than angel,
but she was a troublemaker for sure. I'm pretty sure
something like that. My sister recently sent to my mom
on our group chat, and my mom said, my password
(04:09):
is all of y'all's initials, so they're oh, everybody's equal.
I don't think that's true. All right now, about this
one Amazon Asia, when you forget what you ordered this time,
that's every time I get Every time I get a package,
me too. It arrives at the door and I think,
oh my goodness, if this package had never arrived, I
(04:29):
probably would have forgot that I ever ordered it. Do
you ever get disappointed when you open it up. Well, yeah,
and every time, Yeah, tape, countertop spray cool. Great. I
wanted it to be something else. This one is. If
my mouth doesn't say it, my face definitely will know.
(04:49):
Some people are not good at a poker face. You
you always about my faces, but I've had to really
work on that because of my job. Yes, it's a therapist.
Could you a mad gine? Someone is getting vulnerable on
your couch and they're telling you the story and you
just give them that look that you give. Well, I
do say in every initial session I have at the client,
(05:10):
I say, if I ever make a face at you
and you just think that I'm doing something rude or mean,
I need you to tell me because sometimes I rolled
my eyes and I don't mean to, or sometimes I
mean to, but I'm meaning that that to mean something,
and you might take it a different way because I
don't have a lot of control. You're working on it, okay.
I have an email from Jessica. Hey, Amy, after my
(05:31):
dad passed a couple of years ago, I really wanted
to get a tattoo from the note that he left.
I called the show and asked you if seeing your
mom's handwriting all the time on your wrist made you sad,
you said it didn't, and I kept thinking about it.
I'm a total needle phobic with a low pain tolerance. Well,
a few weeks ago, I had a lightbulb moment and
(05:51):
decided that I was going to get my dad's initials
in his handwriting. My brother and I did it together,
and I love it. I just wanted to say thanks
for sharing your challenge and feelings about this, Jessica. And
then she included a picture of her ankle and it's
her dad's initials on the bottom, and yeah, it's very cool.
And I think, just to touch on the whole tattoo thing,
(06:13):
there's nothing about it that makes me sad. I too
got joy in my mom's handwriting, and the only thing
that makes me sad is that over time it's gotten
thicker and like fled out. And I didn't know enough
about tattoos at the time to know that that might
be a possibility. So I probably would have opted for
thinner a thinner needle or ink situation, because like, aren't
(06:34):
yours really thin? Well, so I have one on the
back of my arm that is really thin. But I
researched and research and research to find something that does
fine lines. Because I have one of two that I
just got from places that I like walked into or
just like, hey, anybody know where I should go? And
(06:55):
this one, like I feel like the one on my wrist,
eventually you're not gonna be able to read it because
it's going to bleed the other so much. So I
took a little lesson from myself, right, And I think
that that's important to share with people. For anybody that's considering,
I would research like Kat did, because here's what I've
even thought. I kind of because these are so thick,
I thought, oh maybe I could get Carrie, my Nashville
(07:18):
beauty girl. She's home on the podcast multiple times, but
she's my face person, and she's recently started to do
tattoo removal, but for women that are coming out of
sex trafficking that have tattoos that are sad to look
at and are painful memories and they don't want them
on their bodies anymore. And so she's working for this
(07:39):
organization and they send the women to her and then
she removes them. And so through that she's learned how
to do it and now has the tools. And I
think it's so amazing that she's volunteering her time to
do that. I love it. But now that she knows
how to do it, I want to hire her to
maybe take mine off and then I position it a
(07:59):
little bit differently, like further up my arm and do
it in the super thin needle. And I would love
to do that. I would do that to the one
of my wrist and the one of my foot. Yeah,
I don't regret them. I just sneed either. Like I
still if I can't do that, I won't be like,
oh my gosh, this is the worst thing I've ever
done in my life. But like, if I could shifted
a little bit, I would totally be down for that. Same.
(08:21):
But doesn't laser in off a tattoo hurt. I've heard
it's very painful, but I've gotten laser hair removal. I've
heard it's more painful than that removing the hair and
then they numb you, so it's really not that bad.
But I think with the tattoo removal, they can numb
you as well. I'm not sure. Let's into it. Don't
let this keep you from getting a special memory tattooed
(08:43):
on you. As Cat and I are like well, way
to go, Jessica. So cool you finally got your dusk.
Hers looks thin by the way, though she did attach
a picture and it's his initials, but very thin. So
that would just be my advice to people, is that
for me, it never made me emotional or sad, if anything,
it was more special of Oh, my mom's handwriting is
(09:04):
right here on my wrist, close to my heart, and
then right below it. Maybe a year or two later,
I added a spoa, which means hope in Haitian creel
as I was in the adoption process for the kids
and just wanted to have that hope every day that
it was going to happen, because there were days where
we thought the adoption was totally falling through and it
was not going to happen, and so I had to
keep the hope, keep the faith, and so that's why
(09:26):
I tattooed us spoa there all right. Next email is
from Chelsea. Hey, Amy, I'm so excited. I just booked
my hotel and a flight to come to your live show,
in which at all I'm coming so low from California.
I got a v I P ticket and this is
a big deal because it's my first solo trip ever
and I'm in my thirties. I'm excited to meet you
and other listeners of the podcast. Hopefully I'll make some
(09:49):
new friends. Your friend Chelsea, which is so cool. Chelsea
got the memo, Chelsea, what is it all the cool?
Kuld say, Chelsea understood the assignment. I don't think people
say that anymore. I thought that they think they said
that last year. I think that now, like I haven't
heard something a long time, but honestly, bring it back
(10:10):
because I never got to use it. Okay, well, I
just brought it back because I feel like it's appropriate.
Chelsea understood the assignment because she's doing something for herself.
She's headed out for a girl's night to have a
good time. Boys can come, guys can come, not boys
like little boys. And I've had some notes. Can I
bring my daughter? I wouldn't bring little girls either. I
(10:34):
would bring you could bring kids. I think someone messaged
me that their fourteen year old daughters coming. I think
that's appropriate, probably a teenager and above. Because we're not
going to get into the weeds of too many things,
but I will be talking about some personal things that
we don't necessarily get into I guess as deep, we're
just going to go deeper. It'll be a night of
opening up and sharing. So that part, yeah, serious, But
(10:57):
then also what's the other word on? It's like f
F giving you you giving in and fun? Yes, thank you,
like it's like doing the cheer by myself. You didn't
let me answer you. Well, this is gonna be fun
(11:18):
to actually meet Chelsea, I know, and Chelsea is hopeful
to meet some new friends, which I think she totally
will and that will be awesome. And I that's what
I hope for the night to is other people connect
and they chitchat with people around them, and they exchanged
Instagram handles, phone numbers. Then maybe if we do it
somewhere else or I'm in another city and it's closer,
they can all meet up again. Or you know, Mary
(11:39):
and I had done some Spoa events where that happened
and that was really cool. People showed up alone and
they connected and that was really neat to see. And
I would love to see that happen in Wichita. And
I feel like you are really giving some awareness to Wichita,
because do you think Chelsea would ever come from California
to Wichita if it wasn't for this event. Yeah, probably not,
(12:01):
but so fun. She's going to get to and Chase
this is like which atall is his place. He hasn't
been on the podcast in a while, but some of
you o G listeners, No Chase and Abby and Morgan
number two from the Bobby Bones Show. There from a
lot of great things from out of Kansas. All right,
(12:28):
My next email is from Katie and she's actually emailing
about Outweigh, which is my other podcast that loads up
on Saturdays that has to do with eating disorder recovery.
She said, Hey, Amy, I just finished listening to your
podcast on body specific goals post eating disorder and loved it.
Thank you so much for bringing up this topic. I'm
a survivor of anorexia and over exercise and have been
(12:50):
in a solid recovery for sixteen years. Too many that
seems like an amount of time where I should be
quote normal, but in reality and e D is something
that I will always have to be on high alert for,
always need to keep myself in check for my reasons
why I do something. I felt the nudge for years
(13:11):
to pursue personal training slash group fitness and use it
as a way to show that exercise and movement doesn't
need to be focused on weight loss and appearance. It's
about feeling good, relieving stress, having fun. The list goes on,
I just took the plunge and I'm becoming a trainer
at my All Women's gym. I'm week two into my
(13:31):
course on becoming a certified personal trainer. This is a
huge step to be motivated to do this dive into
education and not be triggered. Your podcast came out at
the perfect time. I can't wait to hear the rest
of your talks with Anne Marie. Her story resonated with
me so much. Thank you for being open and honest
about eating disorders on a public platform. The world needs
(13:51):
more of it. Love Katie p S. I am the
T shirt quilt maker. I hope it's holding up well
and that you are enjoying it, which Katie. First of all, yes,
T shirt quill is doing a okay. I love it.
I'm obsessed with it. I sent her a bunch of
my dad's old T shirts and she made it into
a quilt and I used it the other day. The
(14:12):
temperature has dropped in Nashville, so it's officially fall here
and I'm sure it has now a lot of places.
But when it dipped, it dipped, and I wanted to
work outside, and so I was sitting outside on our
patio and I went and I got that blanket and
I wrapped up in it and it was keeping me
warm while I was working outside. And so it's really
really special and thank you for sharing this part of
(14:34):
your life with us. I think it is really cool
that you're able to do something that you're passionate about
and not get triggered and know that it is okay
for you to be in that space as Anne Marie is.
That's my expert guest on out Way, or at least
she was for three weeks in a row. And these
are the episodes that Katie is referring to. But Amory
(14:56):
is a personal trainer that's also in recovery and she's
working with clients. Her main client tell are people that
are in recovery for meeting to sort of similar like you,
cat where a lot of your clients because that's what
you specialize in. So isn't it cool? Yeah? I love Emory.
I go to Emory as well. And I had had
texted you right after the first episode with her came
(15:17):
out and I said, I'm so glad you had this
conversation on the podcast the body specific goals one, because
is it The question was is it okay to have
body specific goals in recovery? I feel like, for me,
this is my own story and I'm not the expert.
I'm just someone went through it. But I felt like
in the beginning I could not because I needed to
(15:37):
focus on recovery. But then as I've shifted, when I
think Amory and I talked about the pendulum, it's sort
of swings. Even with food and exercise and all the things,
the pendulum eventually balances out where you find your rhythm
and some things that you had to cut out completely
that we're so triggering you can now slowly bring back
in because you're like, I'm in a good place now.
(16:00):
But I love that Katie brings up that it's a
lifelong journey to you're never fully in the clear. Yeah.
And I think that something that people misconstrue is that
through the recovery process, you learn tools, and you learn
coping skills, and you learn new ways of looking at
things that allow you to engage in things that you
couldn't without those tools and skills and you're eating disorder.
(16:24):
So when it comes to working out, some people are like,
I'll never be able to do that again. And nobody
should ever be able to allow to do things that
they did in their eating disorder when they're in recovery,
And that's not necessarily true. Some people might not be
able to learn certain skills that allow them to do that.
But I had to do that and it took a
reintroduction period of time. But I think that the conversations
(16:44):
you are having with our conversations that I think people
steer away from or they go to this very black
space in black or white space in and then the
like reality of the truth doesn't actually ever get out there.
So if you haven't listened in those those episodes, highly recommend. Yeah,
Amory is awesome. I'm super thankful. Which what I'm doing
on out way now, which I did start it with
(17:06):
Lisa Ham, who's a registered dietitian our friend out of
New York. I adore her. She has her own podcast
called The Truth Fist Life, which I highly recommend you
check out. But she became a new mom and just
had a lot going on in her life where she
had to step back, and I respected that boundary and
I'm happy for her to do that. Of Course, I
(17:27):
miss co hosting with her and having her by my
side as the expert. But the cool part is I've
been able to bring in other experts every three weeks.
They have like a three week residency with me on
out Way, and so many of the guests have come
from Cat and her connections because this is the world
that you're in. So to you, Cat, I would say,
I'm very thankful for those connections, and You've taken the
(17:48):
time to send me the contact information for those people
because they've all been amazing. Yeah, thank you. And then
you know, this to the eating disorder conversation. Maybe for
you it's something else, But when I was in my
eating disorder, I was very stuck, which makes me think
of one of the topics that our Girls Night, it's
get unstuck. What is holding you back? What is keeping
(18:10):
you from living that life you want to live. And
for some people it might be alcohol. For others, it
might be body image and food issues. For other people
it might be perfectionism, um or like certain things they
need to work through that are it's sort of paralyzing
in a way, and it keeps you shackled to it,
(18:32):
and then you're not able to even move forward towards
this life that you don't even know what is possible
out there. And I'm still working through a lot of that,
but we'll be going through like questions you can ask
yourself and journaling prompts that you can do, and music
you can listen to. That's going to be talking about
that to help dig you out of it or unlock you.
(18:54):
Give you the key to the shackles to the shackles,
because it is it's like you're in your own little
prison cell and if you are, no matter what it is,
it's keeping you there. There shouldn't be any shame in
that at all whatsoever, because we're all there. Maybe it's grief,
stuff that you've been through, life circumstances, different traumas, and
it's holding you back because you're stuck and you can't
you can't work your way through it. Now, this night
(19:15):
isn't uh going to solve all those problems, but it's
at least can hopefully be a step in that right direction,
along with a side of fun of course. I mean,
do you want to do the cheer? Give me give
me an in and fun. Oh what's that? Sof fun?
There you go? Uh Selectacy dot com slash amy for
(19:36):
fun our fun girls night, the most fun you've ever had?
Which it is cool. I know you know we mentioned
the listeners coming from California alone. I know there's someone
driving up from Texas alone. There will be other people
there alone. If you're coming so low, no, that's totally cool.
If you're coming with a group ten ten girls deep,
(19:58):
also cool. If you're a group of guys coming all
so cool, it's fine. We'll see you there. Can't wait
you are invited. I mean, could you imagine if you're
if you're looking for a girlfriend. Okay, actually, guys, get
your tickets. Yeah, I'll be like, now raise your hand.
If you're single and the guys, you should do that.
The guys should get tickets, not altogether in a group.
(20:20):
They should spread themselves out, you know, and single girls
who should do the same. Yeah, okay, Well we hope
to see you all there. I can't wait. It's going
to be so so so much fun. Cat, where can
people find you on Instagram at at cat dot de
fata and at therapy podcast. And you can find me
(20:41):
on Instagram at radio Amy. See you Thursday for four things.
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Cat And today's quote comes from the Le Royal
sign in Austin, Texas. My favorite sign ever. That's gonna
say my favorite Mexican restaurant, and it is while it
is good, it lands in my top five? What are
your favorite? Top three? I love Chewies, I love Las
(00:27):
Maraccas and East Nashville. Have you ever been there? Oh?
It is so good. I love matt Sel Rancho on
Lamar in Austin. I love Maudi's in Austin. Question, Yeah,
since all those places are in Austin except the one
in East Nahville and Chewies. Is Chewie's the same in
Austin as it is here? Does it taste the same?
(00:48):
I feel like it tastes different to me. But that
could just be because it's in my head because now
it's kind of blown up and gotten bigger. But if
I were to go to the O. G. Chewies in Austin,
which is where I celebrated my sixteenth birthday because I
loved it so much when I was in high school,
it was either going to beat Jewies or mat Sell
Rancho or I had my birthday party and I had
it at that Chewies and that's so good. They're building
(01:12):
one right down the street from me and I will
live there. So El Royo, which I heard, they're opening
up other locations and they're even to start selling food. Oh,
I don't know, the grocery sauces and maybe margarita mix
and I don't know. Do you think their sign is
what has blown them up? If it is, I'll take it. Yeah,
(01:32):
so good. They have the cutest merch to these signs.
By the way, they make coasters, coffee mugs, dish towels,
so you can go to their site and get merched.
That's what I had it on our Christmas gift list
idea last Christmas. If you have a coffee lover, get
them like a really nice bag of coffee, probably from
Roothouse Coffee, shot out my sister, and then get on
(01:56):
a super cute, funny El Royo sign mug with a
saying that would resonate with them. That would be cute. Okay, Well,
let me read the one that I wanted to share
for today that I saw them posts and it's whenever
I read a memoir, I'm like, how did you remember
all that and it's so true. A second that yes,
(02:17):
that it is the stories they tell, and I'm like,
the details of these stories did you had to make
some of this up? Read green Light, Matthew McConaughey that
I had to stop reading it because I was like,
this isn't all true. It was too detailed, and it
felt like he just was like writing fun stories that
not fun. They weren't all fun, but it felt like
he was writing a story, not like But here's the
(02:38):
thing about what he said that he has done for
a really long time is he's a journal er, so
he has really good notes. He he he journals. What
were you thinking? I was going to say, Well, I
was thinking there was some quote in that book about
being a B s R. And I felt like that
was like maybe some foreshadowing too, the fact that he
might be be asking some of the content in there.
(03:01):
Maybe he's not. I hope, Matthew McConaughey. I really think
that you're a great guy. He's listening. Don't worry. But
I even if I had journaled, I don't know how
to be able to like remember the details of what
people said. I agree with a sign and I feel
like I need that sign on a mug. Some of
the other ones that I'll just say, eggs salad is
still technically chicken salad. Get it? Yeah, I do get it.
(03:27):
Get it. That's what said. Okay, no more stress for me. Thanks,
I'm full. I like that one. Oh yeah, I'm telling
you what. I'm ready for the stress to go away,
totally full. Pants are busting at the seams. Are you
(03:47):
the password child or the reason they drink child? Get it? Yeah?
What are you? Um? My parents for me? Honestly, my
sister people would probably think she was more than angel,
but she was a troublemaker for sure. I'm pretty sure
something like that. My sister recently sent to my mom
on our group chat, and my mom said, my password
(04:09):
is all of y'all's initials, so they're oh, everybody's equal.
I don't think that's true. All right now, about this
one Amazon Asia, when you forget what you ordered this time,
that's every time I get Every time I get a package,
me too. It arrives at the door and I think,
oh my goodness, if this package had never arrived, I
(04:29):
probably would have forgot that I ever ordered it. Do
you ever get disappointed when you open it up. Well, yeah,
and every time, Yeah, tape, countertop spray cool. Great. I
wanted it to be something else. This one is. If
my mouth doesn't say it, my face definitely will know.
(04:49):
Some people are not good at a poker face. You
you always about my faces, but I've had to really
work on that because of my job. Yes, it's a therapist.
Could you a mad gine? Someone is getting vulnerable on
your couch and they're telling you the story and you
just give them that look that you give. Well, I
do say in every initial session I have at the client,
(05:10):
I say, if I ever make a face at you
and you just think that I'm doing something rude or mean,
I need you to tell me because sometimes I rolled
my eyes and I don't mean to, or sometimes I
mean to, but I'm meaning that that to mean something,
and you might take it a different way because I
don't have a lot of control. You're working on it, okay.
I have an email from Jessica. Hey, Amy, after my
(05:31):
dad passed a couple of years ago, I really wanted
to get a tattoo from the note that he left.
I called the show and asked you if seeing your
mom's handwriting all the time on your wrist made you sad,
you said it didn't, and I kept thinking about it.
I'm a total needle phobic with a low pain tolerance. Well,
a few weeks ago, I had a lightbulb moment and
(05:51):
decided that I was going to get my dad's initials
in his handwriting. My brother and I did it together,
and I love it. I just wanted to say thanks
for sharing your challenge and feelings about this, Jessica. And
then she included a picture of her ankle and it's
her dad's initials on the bottom, and yeah, it's very cool.
And I think, just to touch on the whole tattoo thing,
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there's nothing about it that makes me sad. I too
got joy in my mom's handwriting, and the only thing
that makes me sad is that over time it's gotten
thicker and like fled out. And I didn't know enough
about tattoos at the time to know that that might
be a possibility. So I probably would have opted for
thinner a thinner needle or ink situation, because like, aren't
(06:34):
yours really thin? Well, so I have one on the
back of my arm that is really thin. But I
researched and research and research to find something that does
fine lines. Because I have one of two that I
just got from places that I like walked into or
just like, hey, anybody know where I should go? And
(06:55):
this one, like I feel like the one on my wrist,
eventually you're not gonna be able to read it because
it's going to bleed the other so much. So I
took a little lesson from myself, right, And I think
that that's important to share with people. For anybody that's considering,
I would research like Kat did, because here's what I've
even thought. I kind of because these are so thick,
I thought, oh maybe I could get Carrie, my Nashville
(07:18):
beauty girl. She's home on the podcast multiple times, but
she's my face person, and she's recently started to do
tattoo removal, but for women that are coming out of
sex trafficking that have tattoos that are sad to look
at and are painful memories and they don't want them
on their bodies anymore. And so she's working for this
(07:39):
organization and they send the women to her and then
she removes them. And so through that she's learned how
to do it and now has the tools. And I
think it's so amazing that she's volunteering her time to
do that. I love it. But now that she knows
how to do it, I want to hire her to
maybe take mine off and then I position it a
(07:59):
little bit differently, like further up my arm and do
it in the super thin needle. And I would love
to do that. I would do that to the one
of my wrist and the one of my foot. Yeah,
I don't regret them. I just sneed either. Like I
still if I can't do that, I won't be like,
oh my gosh, this is the worst thing I've ever
done in my life. But like, if I could shifted
a little bit, I would totally be down for that. Same.
(08:21):
But doesn't laser in off a tattoo hurt. I've heard
it's very painful, but I've gotten laser hair removal. I've
heard it's more painful than that removing the hair and
then they numb you, so it's really not that bad.
But I think with the tattoo removal, they can numb
you as well. I'm not sure. Let's into it. Don't
let this keep you from getting a special memory tattooed
(08:43):
on you. As Cat and I are like well, way
to go, Jessica. So cool you finally got your dusk.
Hers looks thin by the way, though she did attach
a picture and it's his initials, but very thin. So
that would just be my advice to people, is that
for me, it never made me emotional or sad, if anything,
it was more special of Oh, my mom's handwriting is
(09:04):
right here on my wrist, close to my heart, and
then right below it. Maybe a year or two later,
I added a spoa, which means hope in Haitian creel
as I was in the adoption process for the kids
and just wanted to have that hope every day that
it was going to happen, because there were days where
we thought the adoption was totally falling through and it
was not going to happen, and so I had to
keep the hope, keep the faith, and so that's why
(09:26):
I tattooed us spoa there all right. Next email is
from Chelsea. Hey, Amy, I'm so excited. I just booked
my hotel and a flight to come to your live show,
in which at all I'm coming so low from California.
I got a v I P ticket and this is
a big deal because it's my first solo trip ever
and I'm in my thirties. I'm excited to meet you
and other listeners of the podcast. Hopefully I'll make some
(09:49):
new friends. Your friend Chelsea, which is so cool. Chelsea
got the memo, Chelsea, what is it all the cool?
Kuld say, Chelsea understood the assignment. I don't think people
say that anymore. I thought that they think they said
that last year. I think that now, like I haven't
heard something a long time, but honestly, bring it back
(10:10):
because I never got to use it. Okay, well, I
just brought it back because I feel like it's appropriate.
Chelsea understood the assignment because she's doing something for herself.
She's headed out for a girl's night to have a
good time. Boys can come, guys can come, not boys
like little boys. And I've had some notes. Can I
bring my daughter? I wouldn't bring little girls either. I
(10:34):
would bring you could bring kids. I think someone messaged
me that their fourteen year old daughters coming. I think
that's appropriate, probably a teenager and above. Because we're not
going to get into the weeds of too many things,
but I will be talking about some personal things that
we don't necessarily get into I guess as deep, we're
just going to go deeper. It'll be a night of
opening up and sharing. So that part, yeah, serious, But
(10:57):
then also what's the other word on? It's like f
F giving you you giving in and fun? Yes, thank you,
like it's like doing the cheer by myself. You didn't
let me answer you. Well, this is gonna be fun
(11:18):
to actually meet Chelsea, I know, and Chelsea is hopeful
to meet some new friends, which I think she totally
will and that will be awesome. And I that's what
I hope for the night to is other people connect
and they chitchat with people around them, and they exchanged
Instagram handles, phone numbers. Then maybe if we do it
somewhere else or I'm in another city and it's closer,
they can all meet up again. Or you know, Mary
(11:39):
and I had done some Spoa events where that happened
and that was really cool. People showed up alone and
they connected and that was really neat to see. And
I would love to see that happen in Wichita. And
I feel like you are really giving some awareness to Wichita,
because do you think Chelsea would ever come from California
to Wichita if it wasn't for this event. Yeah, probably not,
(12:01):
but so fun. She's going to get to and Chase
this is like which atall is his place. He hasn't
been on the podcast in a while, but some of
you o G listeners, No Chase and Abby and Morgan
number two from the Bobby Bones Show. There from a
lot of great things from out of Kansas. All right,
(12:28):
My next email is from Katie and she's actually emailing
about Outweigh, which is my other podcast that loads up
on Saturdays that has to do with eating disorder recovery.
She said, Hey, Amy, I just finished listening to your
podcast on body specific goals post eating disorder and loved it.
Thank you so much for bringing up this topic. I'm
a survivor of anorexia and over exercise and have been
(12:50):
in a solid recovery for sixteen years. Too many that
seems like an amount of time where I should be
quote normal, but in reality and e D is something
that I will always have to be on high alert for,
always need to keep myself in check for my reasons
why I do something. I felt the nudge for years
(13:11):
to pursue personal training slash group fitness and use it
as a way to show that exercise and movement doesn't
need to be focused on weight loss and appearance. It's
about feeling good, relieving stress, having fun. The list goes on,
I just took the plunge and I'm becoming a trainer
at my All Women's gym. I'm week two into my
(13:31):
course on becoming a certified personal trainer. This is a
huge step to be motivated to do this dive into
education and not be triggered. Your podcast came out at
the perfect time. I can't wait to hear the rest
of your talks with Anne Marie. Her story resonated with
me so much. Thank you for being open and honest
about eating disorders on a public platform. The world needs
(13:51):
more of it. Love Katie p S. I am the
T shirt quilt maker. I hope it's holding up well
and that you are enjoying it, which Katie. First of all, yes,
T shirt quill is doing a okay. I love it.
I'm obsessed with it. I sent her a bunch of
my dad's old T shirts and she made it into
a quilt and I used it the other day. The
(14:12):
temperature has dropped in Nashville, so it's officially fall here
and I'm sure it has now a lot of places.
But when it dipped, it dipped, and I wanted to
work outside, and so I was sitting outside on our
patio and I went and I got that blanket and
I wrapped up in it and it was keeping me
warm while I was working outside. And so it's really
really special and thank you for sharing this part of
(14:34):
your life with us. I think it is really cool
that you're able to do something that you're passionate about
and not get triggered and know that it is okay
for you to be in that space as Anne Marie is.
That's my expert guest on out Way, or at least
she was for three weeks in a row. And these
are the episodes that Katie is referring to. But Amory
(14:56):
is a personal trainer that's also in recovery and she's
working with clients. Her main client tell are people that
are in recovery for meeting to sort of similar like you,
cat where a lot of your clients because that's what
you specialize in. So isn't it cool? Yeah? I love Emory.
I go to Emory as well. And I had had
texted you right after the first episode with her came
(15:17):
out and I said, I'm so glad you had this
conversation on the podcast the body specific goals one, because
is it The question was is it okay to have
body specific goals in recovery? I feel like, for me,
this is my own story and I'm not the expert.
I'm just someone went through it. But I felt like
in the beginning I could not because I needed to
(15:37):
focus on recovery. But then as I've shifted, when I
think Amory and I talked about the pendulum, it's sort
of swings. Even with food and exercise and all the things,
the pendulum eventually balances out where you find your rhythm
and some things that you had to cut out completely
that we're so triggering you can now slowly bring back
in because you're like, I'm in a good place now.
(16:00):
But I love that Katie brings up that it's a
lifelong journey to you're never fully in the clear. Yeah.
And I think that something that people misconstrue is that
through the recovery process, you learn tools, and you learn
coping skills, and you learn new ways of looking at
things that allow you to engage in things that you
couldn't without those tools and skills and you're eating disorder.
(16:24):
So when it comes to working out, some people are like,
I'll never be able to do that again. And nobody
should ever be able to allow to do things that
they did in their eating disorder when they're in recovery,
And that's not necessarily true. Some people might not be
able to learn certain skills that allow them to do that.
But I had to do that and it took a
reintroduction period of time. But I think that the conversations
(16:44):
you are having with our conversations that I think people
steer away from or they go to this very black
space in black or white space in and then the
like reality of the truth doesn't actually ever get out there.
So if you haven't listened in those those episodes, highly recommend. Yeah,
Amory is awesome. I'm super thankful. Which what I'm doing
on out way now, which I did start it with
(17:06):
Lisa Ham, who's a registered dietitian our friend out of
New York. I adore her. She has her own podcast
called The Truth Fist Life, which I highly recommend you
check out. But she became a new mom and just
had a lot going on in her life where she
had to step back, and I respected that boundary and
I'm happy for her to do that. Of Course, I
(17:27):
miss co hosting with her and having her by my
side as the expert. But the cool part is I've
been able to bring in other experts every three weeks.
They have like a three week residency with me on
out Way, and so many of the guests have come
from Cat and her connections because this is the world
that you're in. So to you, Cat, I would say,
I'm very thankful for those connections, and You've taken the
(17:48):
time to send me the contact information for those people
because they've all been amazing. Yeah, thank you. And then
you know, this to the eating disorder conversation. Maybe for
you it's something else, But when I was in my
eating disorder, I was very stuck, which makes me think
of one of the topics that our Girls Night, it's
get unstuck. What is holding you back? What is keeping
(18:10):
you from living that life you want to live. And
for some people it might be alcohol. For others, it
might be body image and food issues. For other people
it might be perfectionism, um or like certain things they
need to work through that are it's sort of paralyzing
in a way, and it keeps you shackled to it,
(18:32):
and then you're not able to even move forward towards
this life that you don't even know what is possible
out there. And I'm still working through a lot of that,
but we'll be going through like questions you can ask
yourself and journaling prompts that you can do, and music
you can listen to. That's going to be talking about
that to help dig you out of it or unlock you.
(18:54):
Give you the key to the shackles to the shackles,
because it is it's like you're in your own little
prison cell and if you are, no matter what it is,
it's keeping you there. There shouldn't be any shame in
that at all whatsoever, because we're all there. Maybe it's grief,
stuff that you've been through, life circumstances, different traumas, and
it's holding you back because you're stuck and you can't
you can't work your way through it. Now, this night
(19:15):
isn't uh going to solve all those problems, but it's
at least can hopefully be a step in that right direction,
along with a side of fun of course. I mean,
do you want to do the cheer? Give me give
me an in and fun. Oh what's that? Sof fun?
There you go? Uh Selectacy dot com slash amy for
(19:36):
fun our fun girls night, the most fun you've ever had?
Which it is cool. I know you know we mentioned
the listeners coming from California alone. I know there's someone
driving up from Texas alone. There will be other people
there alone. If you're coming so low, no, that's totally cool.
If you're coming with a group ten ten girls deep,
(19:58):
also cool. If you're a group of guys coming all
so cool, it's fine. We'll see you there. Can't wait
you are invited. I mean, could you imagine if you're
if you're looking for a girlfriend. Okay, actually, guys, get
your tickets. Yeah, I'll be like, now raise your hand.
If you're single and the guys, you should do that.
The guys should get tickets, not altogether in a group.
(20:20):
They should spread themselves out, you know, and single girls
who should do the same. Yeah, okay, Well we hope
to see you all there. I can't wait. It's going
to be so so so much fun. Cat, where can
people find you on Instagram at at cat dot de
fata and at therapy podcast. And you can find me
(20:41):
on Instagram at radio Amy. See you Thursday for four things.
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