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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happy Tuesday. I'm Amy and I'm Cat, and welcome to
the fifth Thing. Today's quote, well, I'm gonna do multiple
quotes today because before we hit record, Cat was like,
I hope our quote is lighthearted, and I was like, okay,
I need to revisit this because Cat wants to laugh
with some quotes. So I'm going to read multiple from
my favorite Instagram account, l Royo Underscore a t X.
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It's a Mexican restaurant in Austin shout out that has
an awesome sign and when you drive by, it's always
fun to see what they put on it. But if
you don't live in Austin, you get to follow their
Instagram account and see the funny things that they put up.
So Cat will roll through some of the recent sign
that have been put up and we'll see if any
of them give you whatever feeling you're chasing right now.
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You'll like this one. I think maybe because you're a therapist.
Best friends are basically therapists who get paid In Margarita's
I do like that one, but also, you're good annoyed
by a lot of people on social media that think
they're all therapists. That is also true, but but that's
when people are like trying to make money off of
them doing that. That's just like, you know, being fun.
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That doesn't bother me. It's fun and also important the
role that a best friend can play. You can share
your deepest things. I'm for it. Yes, we're for that.
One arguments start because someone hasn't eat yet. But actually
I do like I agree with that. What's the latest
argument you and your boyfriend have had. We have only
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been in one argument, and I don't even know that
I would call it an argument. But how long have
you all been together? A little over two months? So
two months? One argument? Is that a good sign? I
feel like that's a good sign. I feel like that's
really good. Also very easy going, So I don't really
know what it would actually make him upset. It's probably
more about me getting up set. Okay, I can see that.
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What about my body is not a temple, it's a
thermis for case, So I love that. I love me
some ca so that is for sure. When you are
tired at night, and everything's funny, But when you're tired
in the morning, nothing's funny. Think about that one. When
you're tired at night, you're but then if you're tired
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in the morning, you're irritated. They hit the nail on
the head with that one. Do they do this every week?
Do they do a sign every day? No they don't, Yes,
they do every I wonder if that's a one person's
job or if they collectively, like find things. It has
to be how much do you get paid for that job?
Because that's now a lot of pressure. Yeah, Okay, now
I'm gonna move on to the original quote from My girl,
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my other obsession, Mel Robbins. I took a screenshot at
this one and sent it to Cat the other day
because I'm like, this is so good. But Mel put up,
the move that you're afraid to make is the one
that will change everything. Trust yourself and do it. See.
But I read that, and then I'm like, but how
do I know I can trust myself? What is the
right thing I'm supposed to trust? Because I'm like a
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ping ping pingel. But I also live in the space
where I really do think that, like we can't really
mess up. There's this like quote and I don't know
if it's from like a Super Soul conversation or what
it's from, but it's Oprah talking and she's talking about
failure and I've read it on You Need Therapy before,
but she basically is talking about how like every decision
you make is going to lead you to another situation
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that's going to lead you to another situation that's going
to lead you to another situation, and even if they
don't turn out the way you wanted them to be,
they're taking to where you need to go, and so
you can't really mess up. Because the whole idea was
like what is failure and what is messing up? Like
if you make the wrong decision because you trust your gut,
how do you know it's wrong decision because what you
wanted to happen didn't happen. But what if what you
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wanted to happen wasn't supposed to happen? Right? Okay, See,
I know I can be talked back through it. I
think that's what I always have to land there of
like I cannot mess my life up because my life
is just a series of events that take me to
where I eventually need to go. We don't like all
of the events, unless, of course, I go do something extreme,
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Like you know that's not what you're referring. No, because
my mind immediately goes to like, well, I mean I'm
gonna move the Canada and this and not very pretty bad.
Or I could do that and that would be bad.
But that's excluding all maybe illegal activity. Yeah that's not
in this chat. But yeah, I think that like trust
your gut, or like a lot of times, we know
what we want to do, we know what we need,
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but we get so afraid of the what ifs and
then we get paralyzed and then we don't do anything,
and that's not the right decision either. Well. Yeah, and
on a lighter note, remember how I was scared to
make that crazy peach cake for my daughter. I made it,
I did see that. I actually just asked Stevenson if
it was good. So what did he say? I'm gonna
go no comment here. Okay, Well, listen, don't be scared
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of failure, because you know, sometimes you just have to
show up and it's about trying and doing your best.
And that's what I did with that cake. Because the
version on YouTube from some Korean cooking show was unattainable.
There is no way I could have made something as
beautiful as that person who clearly has a lot of
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views on YouTube, so she creates art. It's her job.
It's her job. She has this one particular peach cake
has eleven million views, and so I thought, well, and
it is kind of therapeutic to watch. There is no
recipe in the section, like the even the description section
of YouTube. You just have to watch the video play
by play, so there was a lot of rewinding. I'm
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sure I missed some steps that may have been the problem,
but I feel like I got every ingredient in every
step of the recipe correct, and I feel like I
got the overall vibe. But it just was not exactly
what Stashira was expecting, but she did appreciate the effort.
I was going to say, like, yeah, the cake might
not have turned out how it looked in a video.
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And maybe the point of all that was you showing
Sashira that you wanted to do this for her and
do it with her because did she help you? Ye,
So the experience of doing that and showing her that
you cared enough to do this really hard thing with her,
that probably was more important. Yeah, and then I felt
Yes to me, I just want to keep showing up like, yeah,
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I'm not a regular mom, I'm a cool mom, like
you want some crazy Korean cake from YouTube where I
don't even know some of the ingredients and I got
to find them and their obscure and nothing is in
you know, measurements that were used to it's like all
grams and which I realize that's not as hard. My
sister taught me when she was on the podcast. Because
of her coffee shop, they bake a lot, and she
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learned once they started baking way more for the shop
that you know, as long as you have a scale,
you just convert it over to Graham's and then you
put the bowl on there and then set it back
to zero and then start just pouring stuff in there,
and it'll tell you once you get to five grams
or tin grams wherever you learn. I know, I'm cool,
cool mom, cool mom. Now I do have some listeners
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emails I don't want to get to with you, cat,
if you don't mind. The first one is from don
Etta in Oklahoma. She said, Hey, Amy, I'm catching up
on the past few weeks worth of your podcast and
currently listening to your talk with Christy, which this is
me talking here. Christie is my sister. She said, I
love how you look at the miracles in the hard things.
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The birth of Pimp and Joy from your mom's cancer
journey and your kids out of your infertility struggles is
incredibly inspiring. I also think you should look at SPA
as a miracle from having found and adopted your beautiful children.
That's a kind of miracle, like Pimp and Joy that
sends out miracles to others as well. Those are the
best kind. Thanks for sharing your journey and growth and
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joy over the years, your friend, Donnetta and Oklahoma ps.
Also from the preceding Amy and cat chat. I find
both of your laughs infectious and always find myself smiling along.
So don Etta, thank you for that note of encouragement.
And yeah, my sister was on for Four Things if
you want to go back and listen to that episode,
and she was on mostly to promote her HDTV show,
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but we talked about so much more the hospitality gene
at that and that's when I decided I was going
to bake the cake because my dad would have baked
the cake. Like if I took my dad some weird
obscure recipe. He wasn't he a really good cook? Yes, well,
cooking and baking is different, but he could do both
all right. Yeah, he would bust out all kinds of
baking cookie. He could do it all, and he would
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even put his own twist on it and kind of
make it better at times if he could figure out
something away to make it better. And so that's just
a special talent that I didn't necessarily inherit. But you know,
Christie allowed me to tap into that and want to
channel that, and I did my best and I baked
the cake. I did it. I don't know that I
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ever want to do it again, but I did it.
So if I for you a cake, you won't bake
a cake for me for my birthday. If if you,
I'm gonna find one. Okay, I'm start charging people because
it takes me a lot of time. Is long. There's
whatever you bring me has the recipe written out like
a ten minute YouTube video, over and over and rewinding it.
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That's the part that's annoying. We also, while my sister
was on, we were talking about, you know, expecting miracles
and we have just one life. Were talked about these
bracelets my sister got me, and they're so cute and
I love that they're they're a reminder pimp and joy
is for sure a miracle, and a spat is a miracle.
My children or miracles and the fact that at all
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unfolded and like you were just saying at the beginning
of like the next right thing led to the next
right thing, And when I couldn't wasn't able to get pregnant,
I thought, I don't understand, Lord, I just want to
get pregnant. I just want to get pregnant. But I
didn't know that that next right move of going to
this like adoption dinner that we were invited to, would
open my heart up to adoption, and then I would
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shelf the whole pregnancy thing because we couldn't figure that
out and move on to adoption. What if I never
took that step, because then I had to convince my husband.
What if he never took that step because he wasn't
on board with adoption at first he was, but after
we had biological children, he's like, oh, yeah, I guess
I'm open to it, but we're having our own first.
And then now it's amazing to hear him call his
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two kids from Haiti his own and so and I
think that is like the point of like miracles. Whenever
I think of miracles that have experienced or heard of,
they come from depths of sorrow a lot of times.
So I think to have something great like that, you
do a lot of times, I have to go through
tough stuff. We don't want to. We just want to
have like a nice, jinny miracle. But yeah, I think
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that looking at the things in your life that aren't
really perfect and beautiful and looking at them as opportunities
for like something good can arise out of this that
I never would have dreamed of. Yeah. Never. And it's
like Garth brook says, what does he say? Some of
God's greatest gifts? All an answer which shout out to
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Bobby Bones and the Raging Idiots because they opened for
Garth Brooks in Arkansas all on Saturday night open Garth
Brooks was here, just here, he was the weekend before
and then Saturday he was in Arkansas at the Razorback Stadium.
Seventy people sold out, show who totally crazy, stadium show bonkers. Okay.
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Next email is from Emily in Louisiana. I never email people,
so I'm excited for this. Is that weird? L O L.
I just wanted to say that I've been listening to
your podcast for about three years now, and it has
really helped me become a more positive person. Thank you
for that, because I'm working on being more positive person too.
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So I don't want you all to think that I'll
just come on here and I'm all positive all the time,
because I'm not. It takes work, okay. I love that
you keep it real while also bringing awareness to serious,
sensitive subjects. The world can be a negative place, but
your podcast brings light to so many people. I'm a
twenty four year old new mom and listening to your
podcast has given me so much guidance to healthy parenting.
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You talk about important topics that I would have never
thought about, like not talking badly about my body in
front of my daughter, or talking about dieting. Boom, We're
like this, we have like things to say in the
middle of this email because we were so excited about it. Uh.
I love that so much because she's only twenty four
and she's learning this early on. So in this like
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first child, so you're gonna like have to have so
many years to just be this message to people. I
love it. Emily in Louisiana. I'm going to continue with
your email. That is something my mom did around me,
and I never thought about how it affected me until
you did the Outweigh series. I love the walk thing
and the fifth thing with Cat shout Out. I also
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love the Gratitude journal. I made my own journal with
one I had laying around the house. But it really
makes you appreciate all of the things. I just wanted
you to know that you are truly alive in keeping
you which full disclosure, I didn't want to read that
line about myself, but Cat just made me. Okay. Back
to the email, I wanted to include four things that
I'm thankful for right now, so here they are my
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baby Ivy, my espresso machine, the coke I had for lunch,
and four thing supportive friends. Your friend Emily from Louisiana,
and then she attached a picture of her and her
baby and she said, here she goes. I also wanted
to include a picture of me and my baby since
you said you like connecting with your followers, which I
absolutely do like connecting, and I so appreciated being able
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to put a face with the email, so attaching a
picture was very sweet. You know what, people A lot
of people send me pictures attached birds. They're like what's
word for your going something that just birds? Just birds,
so like cardinals or blue jays or any kind of birds.
Sometimes they're like, can you identify this? And I'm like, okay,
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you haven't been putting out as much bird content. I know.
I guess I just don't spend as much time at
my kitchen table When I was kind of depressed. I
just really got into the birds to just have something
to think about, and it still brings me happiness. And
I love it that even my kids are like totally
into it now. Just the other day, because I just
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put out fresh seed, my son's like, Mom, your mom's here,
and I don't know her. It's a little red cardinal
at the feeder. And they know that cardinals are my
mom and blue jays are my dad, and they're just
sweet to play along with me, and that maybe they
believe it too. Maybe I don't know. I think they're
kind of like, Mom, your dad's here, back, Mom, Papa's back.
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And I'm like, okay, but thank you Emily for the
really amazing email. And I hope that that's encouragement to
others listening that I don't want you talking badly about
your bodies in front of yourself, like in your own mind,
or especially in front of your children. And you know,
my mom didn't really do it in front of me,
but I was exposed to dieting at an early age,
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and then that's where it all started. Well, it might
not be talking about your body, but if somebody is
talking about a diet, that just sends the same exact message.
And I think we don't do it maliciously, but once
we notice it, then we can do something about it.
I like that you said that you don't like when
people talk about their bodies in front of themselves as well,
because I always say, like, you hear yourself when you
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talk to yourself, So what you do say about yourself
matters a lot. And I mean not to keep tying
it back to a spa or different things that we have,
but we hope that some of that whole line is encouraging.
So there's even four things affirmation tease and affirmation note
cards that say things like you are kind, you are smart,
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you are worthy, you are left. And as a mom,
that might be cool to wear around your kids because
they're they're reading it on your shirt and then they're
the ones seeing it with their eyeballs and then when
you're looking in the mirror you see it too. But
it's a nice thing to have on to wear to others.
And then we have the note card sets and they
have little envelopes and you could write a note to
a friend on it and give it to them so
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that they know they're smart, they're worthy, their loved, their kind,
and you are kind. Like I use that with my kid.
I think I even got this from maybe Dr Becky,
or maybe there's another parenting book I was reading about
reminding your children that they are these certain attributes, like
telling them that they are because sometimes they don't believe
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that they are. And when you're they're trying to make
a decision or a choice, you can kind of just
leave it in their hands but say something like, well,
I know you're a kind person, so I think that
you'll figure it out, and then you walk away and
they think, you know, they have to do some critical
thinking and kind of figure out, okay, how they want
to get and then oh, yeah, I'm a kind person.
So they tend to lean that direction when that offers
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some confidence to them as well. I like your kind,
so I know you'll figure it out. It's like, oh, yeah,
I am capable of doing this, right. I have another
email I want to read. This one is from Miranda
in Wichita, Kansas. Hey, Amy, I just listened to the
fifth Thing episode this week with Kat and you guys
talked for a minute about living your life for the weekends,
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and it made me think of Jason Tarctic. That is
um Caitlin Bristow's fiance. Isn't it last name? I have
no idea. I didn't. I don't watch The Bachelor, but
I think that's a Bachelor guy. Okay, well, how are
you say his last name? She goes, I know, so silly,
but I love him. In his podcast as well, he
recently wrote a book, The Restart Roadmap. I haven't read it,
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but in one of the promos, he said he found
himself miserable and counting the days until the weekend and
only truly living two days of the week before he
quit his office financial career and realized this wasn't what
life was about for him. I just thought that he's
super interesting and it might be a good reach out
for an interview for the podcast. If not, this was
just good reinforcement for me to make sure to enjoy
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the little things during the week and make sure that
I am living my week and not just waiting for
the weekend. L O L. Lastly, I just need to
say that you guys always bring joy to my week
and I always catch myself laughing along with you. Also,
your new sendoff has me smiling at the end of
each episode. So with that being said, thank you Miranda
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from Wichita, Kansas. And then she said, shout out to
my mom. Oh, I love the shout outs. Let's do
shout outs. Shout out to my mom, Shanna and my
cousin bestie Melissa, who are listeners of you as well.
Have you ever had a Bachelor Bachelotte person on the podcast? No,
I haven't. Maybe this is your your start, I know,
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and I would like to have Caitlin on too. Maybe
I could just have them on, you know, two weeks
in a row or something, do a thing. I had
somebody messaged me the other day because I obviously am
not like posting about my boyfriend all the time, and
they found out that I had one, and they messaged
me and they sent me this guy for the Bachelor
and they're like, I've been doing some researches this him.
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And for anybody thinking that now I'm not dating anybody
from The Bachelor. Oh interesting, yell everybody where you met
him dating app? Yeah, did you say the specific one?
Oh Hinge? Yeah, love it, big fan right now, because
some of my friends like Bumble. Some of my friends
like Hinge. You did both, but just like Bumble. I
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know I have a friend that really likes Bumble, but
you know she doesn't. She doesn't have the best of
luck with it. But she also enjoys Hinge. But she
goes out like a lot. And sometimes you have to
put yourself out there, right because you think about all
my bad dating experience. They were bad. Yeah, so it
was a long time coming. Four things with Amy Round
at gmail dot com. Hit us up. We'd love to
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hear from you at cat dot dot fata on Instagram.
She would love for you to follow see what she's
got going on, especially on her podcast, which is called
You Need Therapy, and the handle for that is you
Need Therapy podcast, which you put up a lot of
really great quotes, which we should start using some of
your quotes show Yeah, yeah from the episode. Yeah, so
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you know, if you're looking for some inspo, I recommend
following that, and then I'm radio Amy on Instagram, so
would love to connect with you over there and have
a great Tuesday. If you're listening to this on Tuesday
or whatever day of the week you're listening, We are
super thankful for y'all and anything else. Closing thoughts, Cat,
I think you covered it all. Okay, all right, well
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that's our episode. Thanks for listening, Thank you. Did we
do it? I don't know, show, but I like you
actually doing a little bit different each time so then
it doesn't get like we were prerecorded. And then we
end with thank you. Okay, we did it, Okay, alright,
bye y'all.