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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I won't let my body out out way everything that
I'm made do. Won't spend my life trying to change.
I'm learning to love who I am. I get I'm strong,
I feel free, I know who every part of me.
It's beautiful and then will always out way if you
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feel it with your hare, she'll love to the boom.
I let's say good day and time did you and
die out Happy Saturday, outweigh fam. My guest today is
Brooke Rozzie, and she is an expert in cycle sinking,
which is understanding how our hormones they fluctuate throughout different
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seasons of our monthly cycle, and I recently had a
conversation with her for my other podcast, Four Things. It
hasn't aired yet, but it'll be up soon, so I
definitely want y'all to go listen to that if you're
curious about your monthly cycle and the four different stages
that are happening during that. But I thought it would
be interesting to have Brooke come on and talk about
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our body since she's so knowledgeable and Brooke, you actually
have experienced within eating disorder from back when you were
in high school, so I thought maybe you could share
a little bit about your story entering into recovery and
why it is you do what you're currently doing and
you're so passionate about it, and how how our bodies
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are designed and they weren't designed to diet and exercise.
When I was young, I was overweight as a kid,
and I don't exactly know when that came on, but
I lost the weight in sixth grade, and um played
sports pretty easily, kind of kept it, maintained playing sports,
but then um, when I stopped playing sports about midway
in high school, in my sophomore year, the weight started
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coming back on. In hindsight, looking back on it now,
I know that for so much of my life, I
grew up watching dieting as a way, and it was
kind of like this unspoken thing that like, if you
wanted to feel good in your skin, you needed a diet.
And my mom was amazing, she was, you know, an
awesome mother, but watching her talks poorly about her body,
always dieting. I grew up in what I call like
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the snack Wells generation. There's always slim fast shakes and
you know, metabolife and all those things in our home.
So I was kind of this unspoken message that I
received that if I wanted to feel good, I needed
to diet, and around sixteen years old that's when I
started to really do that. But I didn't have any
support into what it meant to support my body, or
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what it meant to eat well or how to nourish
my body. So I would go into these different diets
and then I wouldn't be able to maintain it. It
would leave me binging, which would leave me feeling guilty,
which would leave me purging, and it just started the
cycle and I didn't know how to get myself out
of it. And also during that time, I was put
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on birth control because I was having you know, strong
PMS symptoms, and then I was note weight gained from
the birth control, and I just kind of stayed stuck
in the cycle of not knowing what to do until
I got into my younger twenties and I went back
to school and really started to learn more of how
food was impacting my body. And for me, knowing more
of the education was what I truly needed. I really
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needed to understand how things were impacting me and how
to support myself the best. So going back to school
for it, I was able to kind of work through it,
and working through in therapy a little bit with my
relationship and why I was doing those things. I was
really able to understand more of what it meant to
more nourish my body and start to shift my mindset
and my approach versus dietting and those things, and understanding
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more that what it meant to nourish myself eat things
that make me feel fueled and satiated for a meal
to meal and start to really tune into and that's
where I started to explore more of my hormones and
my cycle Moore, start to tune into how certain stages
were impacting how I was feeling as well to be
able to support myself through my hormonal stages of my
cycle as a woman. To A big part of my
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recovery has been eating adequately. And I think when you
spend so much time in the diet world, which like you,
I was exposed to dieting in my teenage years. I
had a great mom, and my mom actually wasn't even
the first person I saw it from. For a little bit.
We had a family that came to live with us.
They had something going on in between houses, and my
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mom was always like open door. Yes, come live with us,
stay with don't don't pay rent somewhere, or just live
with us for a few months. And that experience brought
in these new foods of like spray butter and diet
drinks and everything diet and fat free and snack wells.
I know you mentioned that, and I was like, oh,
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I feel that snack wells generation right here, but that
dieting at a young age. And that's what you know
in the restriction, And it's like finding your what is
your even your baseline because you don't know because for
so many years you've been manipulating it and in recovery
figuring out, Okay, what is eating adequately for me? I
don't know, but I am here to offer hope that
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it is possible to finally get there. It takes time
and patience. But what's also interesting to me about your work,
Brook is that different times of the month adequately will
change because there is a season of our cycle that
requires us to consume more, like we need to eat more,
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and a lot of times we're like, oh, why am
I eating this much? I can't maybe my periods coming,
But you still don't really understand why it's happening, but
if you could just explain to us why it's happening,
and it's like, oh, this is your body telling you, hey,
I need more calories eat, So don't ignore it because
then it might lead to you restricting more when your
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body definitely needs it, and then that's where another binge
comes into play. Yeah. Absolutely. I think the best way
it was kind of pertained to me because when I
first explored the idea of increasing my calories for a
couple of weeks out of every month, it was scary,
especially I think when you're in recovery from something, you
still have a little bit of that in you, and
so it was really scary to think, like, oh my gosh,
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I just have to increase my food. So if you're there,
I feel you and understand. And it actually, to me,
the best way that I resonated with it was someone
told me they were like, well, what you know, what
that small little increase over like ten days does is
nothing compared to like, when I do let myself get
to that point if it turned into a binge or something,
what that's going to do? Right, So it was more
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of when I understood that, I was like, Wow, the small,
little bit and knowing how to tune and trust myself
and trust my body and tune into that tracking my
cycle actually made that much easier for me. And being
aware of how to trust myself. So in that loo
real stage of our cycle after you've adulated, especially that
ten day period leading up to your period, your menstrual cycle,
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your progesterone is usually more at a peak, and progesterone
hormone is a pro thyroid hormone. They can give your
metabolism essentially a little bit of a boost. So this
is why you can start to feel more hungry or
an increased statiation in this stage of your cycle. And
we do need to give it, you know, for talking medically,
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we say about five to ten percent. This can obviously
very person of person, but um, giving yourself a little
bit of that caloric boost and that stage of your
cycle can actually help your energy during that stage of
the month. It can help prevent you from getting to
that point where it does kind of leave a little
bit more of that pre period binge. It can actually
help support your statiation through the day so that we're
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honoring what our our hunger homloes and it actually can
help support p MS too, if you are getting p MS. Usually,
I say, our body talks to us as a woman,
So sometimes those symptoms and things can be how our
body is letting us know, like hey, I need something.
Usually what we need in that stage of your cycle
is a little bit more of an increase of magnesium.
So that's why we can start to crave chocolate and
that stage too, So kind of building that trust and
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leaning into what your body is telling you in that
stage can be really important. Another way that I get
magnesium is through that calm drink. Are you familiar with that?
I love the pink lemonade. I think I do a
teaspoon and I just mix it with water and I
drink it before bed. I also have some magnesium supplements
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that I take from time to time before bed called
Mago seven, and I don't do it all the time.
But well, now that Brooke knows, because when I talked
with her for my four Things podcast, I was like, Okay,
it's finally time I have the capacity to track. My
brain is ready for me to to take this on
and I'm going to start tracking my cycle. And so
now I'll know when I need to truly be intentional
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of for sure, for sure taking these magnesium supplements. I
love the chocolates an option for sure, but that calm
drink also to me, it helps prepare me for sleep.
I get better night's sleep when I do it. Magnesium
is actually really calming mineral, so it can actually be
very beneficial to sleep, important for anxiety. If you do experience,
it can be amazing for that. The calm is actually
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a good option. It's you'll see it in a lot
of places. The one thing I look for. There's different
forms of magnesium. Magnesium glycinate is one of the best
absorbed by your body and one of the best ones
for you to be taking, especially when we're talking hormonally
leading up to that stage of the cycle. So you
can find that in supplement form. It's a great one.
Some of the calm drinks do have a glycinate form.
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Some of them are a citrate form. So I will
say if you have taken calm in the citrate form,
it can disrupt your digestive system or your bowels a
little bit. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. So if
you've noticed that, maybe try switching over to a glycnate
form and see if that helps. Oh. Interesting, I love that.
I just learned that, And now next time I buy
a bottle, I'll look for the glycerate because I think
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mineus sitrate. Yeah, but I'm now I'm going to look
for that. See, we're learning. I love learning about new things.
To take something else. I've started taking two before bed.
I don't know if it's gava or gava. Are you familiar? Yeah, Gava? Okay.
My neuro therapist, I get feedback. That's what I'm doing
right now to help treat some A D D d
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h D symptoms. And she told me I need to
start taking it to help I don't know, disrupt some
neurotransmitters in my brain and like calm some things down. Yeah,
you have neurotransmitters that play a role and communicate with
your hormones as well. And a lot of times we
kind of undervalue vitamins and minerals and how important they are,
but they're literally the precursors or the communicators in so
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many different enzematic processes in our body. Magnesium, for one,
is responsible for over two semetic processes in your body.
So for deficient in magnesium, a lot of those things
can be disrupted. Sometimes it's the simple things that we
need to prioritize first before we try to get into
the detail stuff. So if you're listening, one of the
first things I have a lot of my clients do,
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if they're not implementing its implement some sort of magnesium supplement,
and they'll notice their sleeping better, they might feel more
calm during the day, and they might notice that anxiety
can sometimes come down a little bit too from it. Okay,
good to know. I saw something on your website like
our body wasn't made to diet and exercise. So talk
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about that statement so often, and I remember for so
much of my life we were, and I see it
a lot with women, is like, well, what diet should
I do? It's the main question I get. Should I
be doing Keto? Should I do Paleo? Which diet should
I do? And my answer really is whatever is the
best for you, whatever is the best that makes you
feel good, that gives you the energy that you need
to and supports the way that you're meant to function.
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I think of a lot of times as women, we
try to fit ourselves into this little box, and our
body was never meant to fit into that little box.
We try to fit like, well, I'm going to do
this diet and then we try to adjust our lifestyle
to that diet, and instead I try to think what
intrition do you need to support your lifestyle and what
you need And there's no specific diet that's going to
do that for you. It might be a combination of
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several different things and whatever your body hormonally, etcetera. Needs.
I have hypothyroids, so what my body needs is probably
not going to be what another woman body needs, and
what foods I feel good with is probably not going
to be what another one does. So so much we
think of like what's the diet and exercise, when there's
so many other pieces to the puzzle that can really
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come into play with how we're feeling, especially if you
are someone that has disordered patterns or you're in a
needing disorder. Some people have disordered behaviors and they don't
even realize it yet, but you're starting to get curious,
and if you might be one of those people that's
curious and that's why you're even listening to this podcast,
or if you're in recovery, I mean, that's when you
also get to assess, like, Okay, none of these diets
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might be good for me, But then when you start
to become in tune with your body and realize what
it truly needs, then you can start to take little
bits and pieces from each thing and then you you
form what is best for you so you feel you
feel your best according to you, not anybody else or
what anybody else is doing. And I think that's what's
so frustrating with some of my friends that are dietitians
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and therapists is like just people online everyday, people that
have no education or background, and what they're saying, they're like,
here's what I ate today, you know, basically saying, eat
exactly like I ate today, and your body will look
like mine, not sharing any of their genetic info with
you at all in any way, shape or form, where
if you were to like go look at their mom
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and their Grandma's like, okay, genetically, this is how they look.
And oh, by the way, we don't all have to
strive to look that way. Our bodies were created very,
very differently, but society has told us that there's this
standard way to look and that's just untrue and a
lot of what we're having to unlearn and Lisa Haim
who is the co founder of Outweigh with Me. She's
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the registered dietitian that's normally on and she recently put
up an Instagram post. I guess I say recently, but
it was from March eight and I even shared this
one on my four Things podcast because I loved it
so much. But she titled it unpopular opinion. We don't
have to fit neatly into boxes. And then she just
went on this whole thing about how we don't need
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to label the way we think, eat, move, We don't
need to use concrete sides. We can just be and
form our own thoughts and honor our own needs and
stay true to who we are and that you know,
we don't have to be vegan. We don't have to
be that you don't have like and for me, I
when I was in you know, knee deep into my
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eating disorder, I had all kinds of labels and I
was an expert on so many different things. But then
I felt weird about it because people would come to
me and then I felt uncomfortable because it's like, wait,
why are they coming to me with these questions? But
it was because I presented myself as this expert of
health and wellness because it's all that consumed me. It's
all I talked about. It didn't really register to me.
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And then I when I had that aha moment, I
was like, oh, okay. And also I have no formal
training and education, so I should start shutting up. I
see a lot to the diets tend to lead us
to this all in or all out approach, and it
was all in or all out mindset, and it starts
to lead us down this path of like, oh, of gosh,
well I didn't eat paleo this week, so I failed,
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and we start to get into that cyclical place where
we really don't need to be. I think when we
start to step away from that stop labeling ourselves. We
learned to give ourselves grace more. We learned to be
more flexible with ourselves and what we're needing and know
that not every month, not every week or whatever is
going to be the exact same for us. And we
learn how to tune in and trust ourselves more because
we've taken all those labels away and we have to
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start to learn to rely on and support ourselves just
as we are. Love it well. Thank you for taking
the time to talk to the Outweigh Fam and then
UM looking forward to our episode airing on four Things
and Brooke, Where can people find more from you? Instagram, UM,
brock Razzie is my Instagram handle or brick Rozzi dot
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com is my website. UM and I also have a podcast.
It's called the Power of a Woman. I love it
and Rozzie is spelled our O z z I E.
Thanks Brooke, thank you, f