December 4, 2021 • 16 mins
Amy asks Lisa how to handle “trigger foods” aka those foods that you can’t control yourself around. Lisa provides steps for taking these foods off a pedestal so you can ultimately live a life without any “trigger foods”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I won't let my body out, me out well everything
that I'm made dope, won't spend my life trying to change.
I'm learning to love who I am. I get I'm strong,
I feel free, I know who every part of me.
It's beautiful and now will always out way if you
(00:24):
feel it with joys in the air, She'll love to
the moon. I am there. Let's say good day and
did you and die out? Happy Saturday? Outweigh fam, and
I guess as we say Happy Saturday. Just a quick
little note here that Lisa and I have tossed around
moving the Outweigh episodes to another day, but we will
(00:44):
definitely give you a heads up if that happens. So
just once y'all in on the conversations we're having of,
you know, possibly moving it from a Saturday to another day,
so you're not totally surprised if that does happen. Um.
But today's episode, we're gonna talk about a question that
I sent to Lisa because it was a genuine thought
that I had, and I don't really know that I
(01:05):
know the right answer. I know what's been working for
me when it comes to trigger foods, but my question
to Lisa was should I keep trigger foods in the house,
like in the pantry, in the fridge. And you know
my thought process Lisa behind sending this was, you know,
we've talked about the as if mentality. And for me,
when I'm shopping at the grocery store, if i see
(01:27):
oreos and I know I want the oreos. I don't
know why oreos are always my go to example, but
they are, maybe because I just never would have allowed
oreos in my house. But I throw them in my
cart sometimes as if just because I want to put
them in my cart, as if that's normal for me
to buy them, And I put them in my pantry
as if it's normal for me to have them in
my pantry. And now they can sit there for weeks,
(01:51):
sometimes even months at a time. And I was the
girl where that was not a possibility whatsoever. If I
bought a thing of oreos, I didn't trust myself. So
I either had to eat as many as I could,
and then of course I would get sick feeling, and
then I would have to just throw them in the
trash and destroy them somehow, get them wet or spray them.
What's something so that I couldn't eat them? So anyway,
(02:12):
my question for you, being the expert, is should you
keep trigger foods in the house? Great question, and I
think you really did a great job explaining what a
trigger food is. But for anybody listening, I think the
way Amy's defining that is any food that you feel
like you can't be controlled around. So those foods that
if you have one, you will have them all. And
my my answer really stems from personal experience and working
(02:36):
with clients over the years, and two specific clients come
to mind when we talk about this. One was a
client who was obsessed with dried mangoes. And I give
that example because it could be any food. It could
be an oreo, it could be a blueberry, it could
be a raisin, it could be raisin bran, and what
it is really doesn't matter. It's your relationship to that food.
(02:58):
I want to throw in, since you're saying that that, yes,
hummus used to be on my list of things I
couldn't trust myself around because yes, it's you know, made
of chickpeas and has all the quote unquote healthy ingredients
that fit my box. However, I couldn't buy a thing
of hummus without completely finishing off the thing of hummus.
So then it got to where I wasn't even allowing
(03:19):
myself to have hummus because again I couldn't trust myself.
So hummus was a trigger to me over eating something.
So yeah, I'm glad you clarified that because people maybe
need to examine as they're thinking through this, like what
foods have played that role in my life before? And
mine too was actually hummus For a while, I forgot
about that, And in college, the joke used to be
(03:40):
that I would buy the party size for myself and
go through an entire container of it. And I think
that stems from the idea of hummus is quote unquote
healthy and therefore I can eat all of it. But
then you eat all of it and you still feel
bad about it somehow, right, And that's because whether again
it's an oreo or hummus or chicken, whatever, whatever it is,
(04:01):
it doesn't really matter. It's your relationship to that food
and whether you trust yourself, whether you've put that food
on a pedestal, and what's kind of happening because of
all of that. So the client with the dried mangoes,
I remember when she came into my office and she said,
I cannot keep dried mangoes in my house. If I
keep them in my house, I will eat every single
one of them. And my reply was, it's time to
(04:23):
go shopping for dried mangoes and start having them regularly.
Another client, and we'll get to kind of how both
these stories ended up. Another client had these like special cookies.
They were from like Switzerland or something, and she's like,
I cannot have just a single cookie. And I was like,
I promise you that it's possible for you to enjoy
a single cookie, because she was eating ten fifteen cookies.
(04:45):
So the point where it doesn't matter what the food is,
nothing is enjoyable at that level when you're feeling so
stuffed physically and mentally going through the guilt because of
you've eaten so much, and um, you're afraid of those
quote unquote consequences. And she looked at me, she's like, Lisa,
you don't understand. These are the most special cookies. And
I'm like, I get it. I've been there too with
(05:06):
my own, you know, special cookie. And both of them
we reintroduced into their life in a way that I
want to encourage anybody listening to do in the same way,
and I mean weeks months later, both of them said
the same thing either a the one with the cookie
was like, wow, I can really enjoy and savor a cookie,
two cookies, three cookies, whatever, and the other one was like,
(05:28):
I forget the dried mangoes are in my house and
the freedom that comes with that. It's not about eating less,
it's not about not eating it. It's just about not
being so absorbed with the food that it's all you
can think about, and when you consume them, they kind
of take over. My own anecdotal story as well was
besides for the hummus was chocolate covered almonds. This was
(05:50):
this food that if I had one chocolate covered amond,
I would eat all the chocolate covered almonds. And they're
heavy food. A nut is a calorically dense food that
and provide us with a lot of energy, and therefore
eating that in mass amounts is going to leave you
quite uncomfortable, especially if it's a snack, right, not part
of my meal. Long story short is I found with
(06:13):
myself that like two years ago, I remember when we
were living in d C. I opened up the cabinet
and I saw the chocolate covered dommonds just sitting there
and I was like, I forgot that I even had those,
And I think I wrote a post about it, like
literally two years ago, and I was like, this is
what happens when you make room for the quote unquote
bad foods that you can't be controlled around in your life.
(06:34):
They simply just become part of your everyday life that
you sometimes think about, sometimes don't think about. And I
think that's that's the freedom there. I want to recognize too,
because Lisa and I've been on both sides of things,
and now that I'm in recovery, I'm like, I just
want to scream from the rooftops. Yes there is hope, Like, yes,
food doesn't have to be on a pedestal. You mentioned
the word pedestal a few minutes ago, and I think
(06:55):
that's a great way to put it. Is we elevate
these foods and make them so amazing that sometimes when
we bring them back down to reality, they're really not
as great as we made them out to be. So
there's that hope too. There's a lot that I have
allowed myself to have even this last year in recovery,
where I take a bite of something that I even
remember for my teenage years being so special that like,
(07:17):
I denied myself at all the time, And now I
take a bite and I'm like, oh, oh, I was
really obsessed with this. These are gross, Like I got
no satisfaction from this whatsoever. So there's that piece of
hope there for you. But then also I want to
recognize that, you know, when Lisa mentioned her post on
you know, the chocolate covered almonds, old me that wasn't
(07:38):
in recovery would have seen a post like that and
been hopeful, yes, but also like, uh, that's so great
that happened for her, but that could that will never
happen for me. That just seems so impossible and it
seems so out of reach. And I want to speak
to whoever that person is that might be listening to
Lisa and I talked about this and be like, well,
this is really great for y'all, but this will never
(07:58):
happen for me. I'm more damaged, or I have more
going on, or I just have way more issues than
you'll ever had. I want you to know I had
all those same thoughts. So I hope that you hear
this and you're not discouraged, You're encouraged, and you know
that we're sharing this so that you know that there
is there is that hope. I'm glad to hear that
(08:24):
my approach was was right. I don't know if I
heard that from somewhere else, and it might not be
for everybody. I want you to speak to that too
and how people introduce it, because I am in a
healthy place where I can live in that as if
you know, every person is so different that, yeah, what
works for me might not work for you. But Lisa,
I'm curious to see your take on that, so I
(08:45):
want to I want to give you some actionable things
to do so that you can start bringing those foods
off of the pedestal and down to what you called
amy reality. And I also just want to mention that
your relationship to said food will continue to evolve. And
I'm in the next evolution of my relationship to chocolate
covered almonds, where you know, first it was I would
(09:05):
binge on them, then it was I'd forget about them,
and now I'm so happy to report that in my
postpartum experience, the high of my day is from chocolate
covered almonds. So there isn't a complete neutrality or that
or like Amy said, where she'd eat a food from
her past and be like, I don't really like them.
When I eat these foods, they're the high of my
day right now in postpartum. They provide me with just
(09:27):
this sweetness and serotonin, the happy hormones in our brain,
and it's so cool that I'm able to enjoy them
and eat them and sometimes more than the amount of
just a handful, and then I'm still not swarmed with
that guilt even if I overdo it. So again just
kind of highlighting here that your relationships to these foods
will change. The goal is not to eat less, but
(09:47):
rather to be present to what's going on and really
break down and understand why these foods are trigger foods
for them. So getting into the nitty gritty of how
you can start to break these foods down and knock
them off that pedestal, so Tippenham. Or one is to
eat these foods when you're not craving them. And that
might sound really crazy because you might reserve them for
(10:08):
that special occasion, whether it's you know, your birthday and
you're allowed to have it, or Thanksgiving and you're allowed
to have it, or just when you have that intense craving,
But going into it with that intense craving is still
keeping them on a pedestalitais I can't have them now
unless I really really want them. So eat them when
you aren't completely craving them thinking about them all the time,
(10:29):
and which really means introduce them to your daily life.
The best way to do that Tip number two is
to add them into your normal meals. So let's say
a food for me. One of the foods that I
also struggled with as a trigger food was French fries.
So I made a point to order French fries with
my normal meals whether I went to lunch and I
(10:50):
really wanted a salad, Oh great, can I have a
side of fries with that too, so that I was
introducing them and not just eating them on their own,
which would typically leave to the binge because as I'd
only eat them at these specified occasions on their own,
and then therefore they were the problem. So a good
way to do this is to also pair it with
a safe food, So a food that you feel really
(11:10):
comfortable with added onto that plate makes sense. Yeah, I
love that. The next tip is to avoid eating these
foods on an empty stomach. So everything tastes better when
we are hungrier because biologically that's what's keeping us alive.
The hungrier we are, the more body is asking for fuel,
and therefore we feel like we can't stop because our
bodies are trying to get that fuel in as fast
(11:32):
as it possibly can. That's your body taking care of you,
but you might misinterpret that as you can't be controlled.
So a good way to separate that is to not
eat these foods on an empty stomach. So maybe it's
again with the meal, or maybe it's an afterthought to
the meal. And my final tip is to take a
pause before you eat the food and simply ask yourself
(11:53):
do I want them? Because I think so often we're
tangled up. It sounds so simple, I know, but sometimes
we're so tangled up in the story of it's my birthday,
I'm allowed to have them, it's Saturday night, this is
my cheat day, whatever it is, that we just go
running for it, and those wheels are turning so fast
that we are shoving the food in our mouth. We're
not even enjoying it because the guilt train is already
(12:13):
you know, out the gate, and we haven't even checked
in to say do I want it in this moment,
and that answer really might be yes, and it really
might be no. But taking that pause for a second
is giving yourself a chance to decide what's going on.
I think that pausing is so important because for so long,
so many years, at least for me, I lived in
(12:33):
such a disconnected state to eating. It was almost like
a turned into some sort of a zombie or something same.
But I was present because I was getting the what
is is it a dopamine hit or in serotonin when
we eat, especially if it's sugar or carb or fat
food feel good for our brain? Yeah, so I was,
(12:54):
especially if I had a planned binge or I was
in a situation where I knew I was going to
get to indulging this. I mean, there was a certain
level of excitement where I was present for a minute
and I got rewarded. But then it all went out
the window and I turned into almost Yes, I guess
we'll describe it as a zombie. I didn't even know
what I was doing. And now I'm thinking of zombie
(13:15):
and walking dead, and I'm like, maybe that's not even
the right analogy, because I think we understand what you
mean when you're in a trance and you just can't stop.
But again, like if it feels good, the best thing
you're gonna want to do is chase that high, and
that high is going to feel much higher if it's
on an empty stomach, if you're not allowed to eat
this food at a certain time, if it's your one
window to do so. So it's less about you know,
(13:36):
should I keep this food in the house, Yes, that's
the answer. It's really about breaking down all your other
structures and relationships to food, food timing, you know, all
these different things that play into that situation, and being
present with your food can be one of the tips
like that Lisa said, and having gratitude for what you're
about to take in and take some deep breaths and
combining all of those tips that you shared, I think
(13:57):
are super important and help full. And you know we're
all at different stages, so don't beat yourself up if
you know you're not quite where you can tackle any
of those tips just yet, but keep them in your
back pocket and start testing them out because you never know,
like when once you give yourself that success at least
for me, and I could show myself that I could
(14:18):
do it. I just kept taking that one next right
step and another next right step. And the last thing
I just want to add is for many of you,
when you go and buy that let's use your Oreo example,
when you bring it home the first time, it's very
likely that you will quote unquote fail. You will eat
all of the oreos because that is step one. Step
one is allowing it into your life after so long
(14:41):
it not being allowed into your life. I put that
word fail in quote because it's not a fail. It's
your first major leap in breaking down the cycle because
what happens next is going to be different. Yes, you're
gonna have those daunting thoughts that say, I have to
go do blah blah blah to burn it off. I
can't keep the oreos in my house. But then you're
going to take another pause that to I'm working on
my relationship to food and this is step one and
(15:04):
I'm doing the best that I can in this very moment.
So I don't want to sugarcoat this process. As you
know you try it and you're there, I want to
encourage you to continue with the process even if you
think that you're failing, because what we've coined as a
fail is not a fail, it's you learning to trust yourself.
Thank you Lisa for helping with that question and breaking
(15:25):
down you know, can we keep trigger foods in the house?
And so hopefully this was helpful to you all. We
would love to hear from you. We're still taking personal stories.
If you have one that you think you would like
to share with our Outweigh family, you can email us
hello at Outweigh podcast dot com. We'll have that in
the show notes as well, so you o case you forget,
you can just click on there send us a note,
(15:46):
or if you have any topic ideas or a question
you would like answered, just like I sent that question
to Lisa, you could send us your questions as well.
So thanks for joining us and we hope you have
a great rest of your day.
I won't let my body out, me out well everything
that I'm made dope, won't spend my life trying to change.
I'm learning to love who I am. I get I'm strong,
I feel free, I know who every part of me.
It's beautiful and now will always out way if you
(00:24):
feel it with joys in the air, She'll love to
the moon. I am there. Let's say good day and
did you and die out? Happy Saturday? Outweigh fam, and
I guess as we say Happy Saturday. Just a quick
little note here that Lisa and I have tossed around
moving the Outweigh episodes to another day, but we will
(00:44):
definitely give you a heads up if that happens. So
just once y'all in on the conversations we're having of,
you know, possibly moving it from a Saturday to another day,
so you're not totally surprised if that does happen. Um.
But today's episode, we're gonna talk about a question that
I sent to Lisa because it was a genuine thought
that I had, and I don't really know that I
(01:05):
know the right answer. I know what's been working for
me when it comes to trigger foods, but my question
to Lisa was should I keep trigger foods in the house,
like in the pantry, in the fridge. And you know
my thought process Lisa behind sending this was, you know,
we've talked about the as if mentality. And for me,
when I'm shopping at the grocery store, if i see
(01:27):
oreos and I know I want the oreos. I don't
know why oreos are always my go to example, but
they are, maybe because I just never would have allowed
oreos in my house. But I throw them in my
cart sometimes as if just because I want to put
them in my cart, as if that's normal for me
to buy them, And I put them in my pantry
as if it's normal for me to have them in
my pantry. And now they can sit there for weeks,
(01:51):
sometimes even months at a time. And I was the
girl where that was not a possibility whatsoever. If I
bought a thing of oreos, I didn't trust myself. So
I either had to eat as many as I could,
and then of course I would get sick feeling, and
then I would have to just throw them in the
trash and destroy them somehow, get them wet or spray them.
What's something so that I couldn't eat them? So anyway,
(02:12):
my question for you, being the expert, is should you
keep trigger foods in the house? Great question, and I
think you really did a great job explaining what a
trigger food is. But for anybody listening, I think the
way Amy's defining that is any food that you feel
like you can't be controlled around. So those foods that
if you have one, you will have them all. And
my my answer really stems from personal experience and working
(02:36):
with clients over the years, and two specific clients come
to mind when we talk about this. One was a
client who was obsessed with dried mangoes. And I give
that example because it could be any food. It could
be an oreo, it could be a blueberry, it could
be a raisin, it could be raisin bran, and what
it is really doesn't matter. It's your relationship to that food.
(02:58):
I want to throw in, since you're saying that that, yes,
hummus used to be on my list of things I
couldn't trust myself around because yes, it's you know, made
of chickpeas and has all the quote unquote healthy ingredients
that fit my box. However, I couldn't buy a thing
of hummus without completely finishing off the thing of hummus.
So then it got to where I wasn't even allowing
(03:19):
myself to have hummus because again I couldn't trust myself.
So hummus was a trigger to me over eating something.
So yeah, I'm glad you clarified that because people maybe
need to examine as they're thinking through this, like what
foods have played that role in my life before? And
mine too was actually hummus For a while, I forgot
about that, And in college, the joke used to be
(03:40):
that I would buy the party size for myself and
go through an entire container of it. And I think
that stems from the idea of hummus is quote unquote
healthy and therefore I can eat all of it. But
then you eat all of it and you still feel
bad about it somehow, right, And that's because whether again
it's an oreo or hummus or chicken, whatever, whatever it is,
(04:01):
it doesn't really matter. It's your relationship to that food
and whether you trust yourself, whether you've put that food
on a pedestal, and what's kind of happening because of
all of that. So the client with the dried mangoes,
I remember when she came into my office and she said,
I cannot keep dried mangoes in my house. If I
keep them in my house, I will eat every single
one of them. And my reply was, it's time to
(04:23):
go shopping for dried mangoes and start having them regularly.
Another client, and we'll get to kind of how both
these stories ended up. Another client had these like special cookies.
They were from like Switzerland or something, and she's like,
I cannot have just a single cookie. And I was like,
I promise you that it's possible for you to enjoy
a single cookie, because she was eating ten fifteen cookies.
(04:45):
So the point where it doesn't matter what the food is,
nothing is enjoyable at that level when you're feeling so
stuffed physically and mentally going through the guilt because of
you've eaten so much, and um, you're afraid of those
quote unquote consequences. And she looked at me, she's like, Lisa,
you don't understand. These are the most special cookies. And
I'm like, I get it. I've been there too with
(05:06):
my own, you know, special cookie. And both of them
we reintroduced into their life in a way that I
want to encourage anybody listening to do in the same way,
and I mean weeks months later, both of them said
the same thing either a the one with the cookie
was like, wow, I can really enjoy and savor a cookie,
two cookies, three cookies, whatever, and the other one was like,
(05:28):
I forget the dried mangoes are in my house and
the freedom that comes with that. It's not about eating less,
it's not about not eating it. It's just about not
being so absorbed with the food that it's all you
can think about, and when you consume them, they kind
of take over. My own anecdotal story as well was
besides for the hummus was chocolate covered almonds. This was
(05:50):
this food that if I had one chocolate covered amond,
I would eat all the chocolate covered almonds. And they're
heavy food. A nut is a calorically dense food that
and provide us with a lot of energy, and therefore
eating that in mass amounts is going to leave you
quite uncomfortable, especially if it's a snack, right, not part
of my meal. Long story short is I found with
(06:13):
myself that like two years ago, I remember when we
were living in d C. I opened up the cabinet
and I saw the chocolate covered dommonds just sitting there
and I was like, I forgot that I even had those,
And I think I wrote a post about it, like
literally two years ago, and I was like, this is
what happens when you make room for the quote unquote
bad foods that you can't be controlled around in your life.
(06:34):
They simply just become part of your everyday life that
you sometimes think about, sometimes don't think about. And I
think that's that's the freedom there. I want to recognize too,
because Lisa and I've been on both sides of things,
and now that I'm in recovery, I'm like, I just
want to scream from the rooftops. Yes there is hope, Like, yes,
food doesn't have to be on a pedestal. You mentioned
the word pedestal a few minutes ago, and I think
(06:55):
that's a great way to put it. Is we elevate
these foods and make them so amazing that sometimes when
we bring them back down to reality, they're really not
as great as we made them out to be. So
there's that hope too. There's a lot that I have
allowed myself to have even this last year in recovery,
where I take a bite of something that I even
remember for my teenage years being so special that like,
(07:17):
I denied myself at all the time, And now I
take a bite and I'm like, oh, oh, I was
really obsessed with this. These are gross, Like I got
no satisfaction from this whatsoever. So there's that piece of
hope there for you. But then also I want to
recognize that, you know, when Lisa mentioned her post on
you know, the chocolate covered almonds, old me that wasn't
(07:38):
in recovery would have seen a post like that and
been hopeful, yes, but also like, uh, that's so great
that happened for her, but that could that will never
happen for me. That just seems so impossible and it
seems so out of reach. And I want to speak
to whoever that person is that might be listening to
Lisa and I talked about this and be like, well,
this is really great for y'all, but this will never
(07:58):
happen for me. I'm more damaged, or I have more
going on, or I just have way more issues than
you'll ever had. I want you to know I had
all those same thoughts. So I hope that you hear
this and you're not discouraged, You're encouraged, and you know
that we're sharing this so that you know that there
is there is that hope. I'm glad to hear that
(08:24):
my approach was was right. I don't know if I
heard that from somewhere else, and it might not be
for everybody. I want you to speak to that too
and how people introduce it, because I am in a
healthy place where I can live in that as if
you know, every person is so different that, yeah, what
works for me might not work for you. But Lisa,
I'm curious to see your take on that, so I
(08:45):
want to I want to give you some actionable things
to do so that you can start bringing those foods
off of the pedestal and down to what you called
amy reality. And I also just want to mention that
your relationship to said food will continue to evolve. And
I'm in the next evolution of my relationship to chocolate
covered almonds, where you know, first it was I would
(09:05):
binge on them, then it was I'd forget about them,
and now I'm so happy to report that in my
postpartum experience, the high of my day is from chocolate
covered almonds. So there isn't a complete neutrality or that
or like Amy said, where she'd eat a food from
her past and be like, I don't really like them.
When I eat these foods, they're the high of my
day right now in postpartum. They provide me with just
(09:27):
this sweetness and serotonin, the happy hormones in our brain,
and it's so cool that I'm able to enjoy them
and eat them and sometimes more than the amount of
just a handful, and then I'm still not swarmed with
that guilt even if I overdo it. So again just
kind of highlighting here that your relationships to these foods
will change. The goal is not to eat less, but
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rather to be present to what's going on and really
break down and understand why these foods are trigger foods
for them. So getting into the nitty gritty of how
you can start to break these foods down and knock
them off that pedestal, so Tippenham. Or one is to
eat these foods when you're not craving them. And that
might sound really crazy because you might reserve them for
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that special occasion, whether it's you know, your birthday and
you're allowed to have it, or Thanksgiving and you're allowed
to have it, or just when you have that intense craving,
But going into it with that intense craving is still
keeping them on a pedestalitais I can't have them now
unless I really really want them. So eat them when
you aren't completely craving them thinking about them all the time,
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and which really means introduce them to your daily life.
The best way to do that Tip number two is
to add them into your normal meals. So let's say
a food for me. One of the foods that I
also struggled with as a trigger food was French fries.
So I made a point to order French fries with
my normal meals whether I went to lunch and I
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really wanted a salad, Oh great, can I have a
side of fries with that too, so that I was
introducing them and not just eating them on their own,
which would typically leave to the binge because as I'd
only eat them at these specified occasions on their own,
and then therefore they were the problem. So a good
way to do this is to also pair it with
a safe food, So a food that you feel really
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comfortable with added onto that plate makes sense. Yeah, I
love that. The next tip is to avoid eating these
foods on an empty stomach. So everything tastes better when
we are hungrier because biologically that's what's keeping us alive.
The hungrier we are, the more body is asking for fuel,
and therefore we feel like we can't stop because our
bodies are trying to get that fuel in as fast
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as it possibly can. That's your body taking care of you,
but you might misinterpret that as you can't be controlled.
So a good way to separate that is to not
eat these foods on an empty stomach. So maybe it's
again with the meal, or maybe it's an afterthought to
the meal. And my final tip is to take a
pause before you eat the food and simply ask yourself
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do I want them? Because I think so often we're
tangled up. It sounds so simple, I know, but sometimes
we're so tangled up in the story of it's my birthday,
I'm allowed to have them, it's Saturday night, this is
my cheat day, whatever it is, that we just go
running for it, and those wheels are turning so fast
that we are shoving the food in our mouth. We're
not even enjoying it because the guilt train is already
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you know, out the gate, and we haven't even checked
in to say do I want it in this moment,
and that answer really might be yes, and it really
might be no. But taking that pause for a second
is giving yourself a chance to decide what's going on.
I think that pausing is so important because for so long,
so many years, at least for me, I lived in
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such a disconnected state to eating. It was almost like
a turned into some sort of a zombie or something same.
But I was present because I was getting the what
is is it a dopamine hit or in serotonin when
we eat, especially if it's sugar or carb or fat
food feel good for our brain? Yeah, so I was,
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especially if I had a planned binge or I was
in a situation where I knew I was going to
get to indulging this. I mean, there was a certain
level of excitement where I was present for a minute
and I got rewarded. But then it all went out
the window and I turned into almost Yes, I guess
we'll describe it as a zombie. I didn't even know
what I was doing. And now I'm thinking of zombie
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and walking dead, and I'm like, maybe that's not even
the right analogy, because I think we understand what you
mean when you're in a trance and you just can't stop.
But again, like if it feels good, the best thing
you're gonna want to do is chase that high, and
that high is going to feel much higher if it's
on an empty stomach, if you're not allowed to eat
this food at a certain time, if it's your one
window to do so. So it's less about you know,
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should I keep this food in the house, Yes, that's
the answer. It's really about breaking down all your other
structures and relationships to food, food timing, you know, all
these different things that play into that situation, and being
present with your food can be one of the tips
like that Lisa said, and having gratitude for what you're
about to take in and take some deep breaths and
combining all of those tips that you shared, I think
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are super important and help full. And you know we're
all at different stages, so don't beat yourself up if
you know you're not quite where you can tackle any
of those tips just yet, but keep them in your
back pocket and start testing them out because you never know,
like when once you give yourself that success at least
for me, and I could show myself that I could
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do it. I just kept taking that one next right
step and another next right step. And the last thing
I just want to add is for many of you,
when you go and buy that let's use your Oreo example,
when you bring it home the first time, it's very
likely that you will quote unquote fail. You will eat
all of the oreos because that is step one. Step
one is allowing it into your life after so long
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it not being allowed into your life. I put that
word fail in quote because it's not a fail. It's
your first major leap in breaking down the cycle because
what happens next is going to be different. Yes, you're
gonna have those daunting thoughts that say, I have to
go do blah blah blah to burn it off. I
can't keep the oreos in my house. But then you're
going to take another pause that to I'm working on
my relationship to food and this is step one and
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I'm doing the best that I can in this very moment.
So I don't want to sugarcoat this process. As you
know you try it and you're there, I want to
encourage you to continue with the process even if you
think that you're failing, because what we've coined as a
fail is not a fail, it's you learning to trust yourself.
Thank you Lisa for helping with that question and breaking
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down you know, can we keep trigger foods in the house?
And so hopefully this was helpful to you all. We
would love to hear from you. We're still taking personal stories.
If you have one that you think you would like
to share with our Outweigh family, you can email us
hello at Outweigh podcast dot com. We'll have that in
the show notes as well, so you o case you forget,
you can just click on there send us a note,
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or if you have any topic ideas or a question
you would like answered, just like I sent that question
to Lisa, you could send us your questions as well.
So thanks for joining us and we hope you have
a great rest of your day.
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