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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Kat and today's quote comes from an article I
was reading online about simple rules to finding harmony in life.
Remember how we talked about harmony weeks ago or was
that in Four Things or did?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I don't remember talking about it, so messages from me
memory loss words. You were talking to yourself?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Well, I know here on the Four Things podcast, whether
it was here at the Fifth Thing or the which
is the bonus episode or Thursday episode, we talked about
harmony and I had some stuff up on my computer
and then I was like, oh, this is good because
all these rules for harmony came up in like rule
one was harmony and disharmony can mean harmony. So that's
the quote. But follow me here. What the person was
(00:49):
saying in the article is that you can find harmony
and disharmony and find peace of mind once you accept
that it's almost impossible to have it all well balanced
and under control. We want harmony to mean everything is
balanced and we have it all under control, and that
is harmony. But when you recognize that's literally not possible.
(01:09):
I can think of a time in your life where
everything was just like, what's definitely totally under control? Yeah,
is there a time?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Because sometimes it's either you know, you're dealing with someone
in your life that's going through something really crazy, like
whether it be disease or a really painful event, or
sometimes it's that you can't figure out which freaking furniture
to get for your wedding. Like, there's not always harmony, right, Kat,
Here's how I think I can describe this to give
(01:38):
it a visual would be sometimes when bands or groups
come into the Bobby Bone Show and they perform and
they're singing. There's the main singer, and then there's people
doing background vocals, the harmonies, and Bobby will sometimes say, hey,
just for fun, like lead singer, you don't sing harmony,
you do your thing. So the harmony will start to
(01:59):
do it and it sounds sort of off because you're like, well, wait,
that doesn't sound like the song, and that's like that
it may sound a little bit like disharmony, but when
the lead singer comes in with their voice, it sounds
You're like, normally this all makes sense, but you have
to accept all the pieces. Like individually it may seem
awe or weird, but then you put it all together
(02:21):
and it's harmonious.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
That's like a tongue twister for your brain.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
It's just basically, once you accept it, you'll have more
energy back. Yeah, because you can waste a lot of
it trying to make it perfect, make it all fit together,
when it's like, hey, this actually is part of it
all and it can be harmony. Anywho'sy Let me read
(02:48):
an email? Okay, this is a note that we got. Shoot,
I don't have the name here by by by anonymous. No,
I'll go get the emails.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
So really bad.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, talk about talk about my ring on my finger
while I go look for the email, because we'll explain
to people what I do.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Which ring? Are you even talking about the one that
pinky that belonged to my mom? Okay, so you know
it's on the wrong finger. So I guess we were
talking about something downstairs and I don't know what caught
Amy's attention and either she but she moved her pinky
finger to her What is that your index finger, your
pointer finger? Your ring?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, like where it fits halfway. So it's uncomfortable and
it doesn't believe in they're.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Not harmonious, and so it's the harmony that anyway. So
then we were up here talking about something and she's like,
dang it, I moved my ring to remember something and
I don't remember it. And I said, well, why didn't
you just stop me and tell me? And she said
because I was paying attention to you. And I was like, oh,
that's really nice that you would actually pay attention to me.
(03:54):
I guess, and you didn't want to stop me that
I would actually like that. But I me my brain,
I'm like, wait, I have to tell you something, and
I like interrupt. So it's such a kind way to
remind yourself something but also be present with somebody. Right,
you're right. The backfire is you didn't remember why you
did it.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I normally remember that. Today I cannot. I don't know.
Maybe it's just one of those off days. The email
is from Haley, by the way, Okay, great, phew, Glad
we got that covered. She said, Hey, Amy, I hope
you see this message as it pertains to your stories
about cardinals and blue jays for your parents. My mom's sister,
my aunt, who also happens to be named Amy, just
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passed away two weeks ago from breast cancer. She was
originally diagnosed in twenty nineteen and quote beat it. Unfortunately,
fast forward to fall of twenty twenty two, it came
back and also attacked her lungs. It's been a difficult journey.
My mom and my aunt loved butterflies. Throughout her multiple
stays in the ICU, there would always be a butterfly
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that would show up, whether it be in showing up
around my mom, or in pictures or in my aunt's
hospital room. My aunt lost the earthly battle with cancer
June seventh, four days after her birthday. As soon as
the burial was finished and her flowers were laid atop
her grave, two butterflies hovered over her grave, dancing around
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each other. At this same time, a rainbow appeared and
looked to land on my aunt and my mom's childhood home.
Once the service was over, we all headed over to
my grandparents' church, where my mom and my aunt grew up.
Going this was less than a mile from the burial location.
There was a long wooden deck connected to the church,
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and while my grandmother sat in her car waiting for
my grandfather to finish closing up the church, a cardinal
appeared on that deck out of nowhere. My grandmother was
the only one to see it, but she was sure
to call us immediately to tell us that Amy, her
beautiful daughter taken way too soon, had come to her
and gave her comfort in knowing that she was home
(05:56):
and she could rest now. I just wanted to share
that with you, and I I hope it touches your
day in a beautiful way. Which that's exactly what happened
to my sister. Like after my mom died, she looked
out the window and my mom was still even laying
there in her room. I think I've told you we
like laid with my mom for four hours after she died,
and like we wouldn't let them take her away yet
(06:17):
because they're like not done. But my sister looked out
her window and saw a red cardinal and that's why
we always say it's my mom. And then obviously red
cardinals represent that to a lot of people. But then
I feel like the butterfly thing is really beautiful too,
and it's very significant.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I feel like we can overlook that stuff so often
of like I was just butterflies.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
But how are we so sure? How are we so sure?
I mean, why not? Why not? Why not bring you comfort,
like for her grandmother, it was comforting to see that
red cardinal. And some people are like, Okay, it just
happened to be a red cardinal right there.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
But okay, how often do you see red cardinals?
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Don't ruin this moment? Yeah, well my mom comes all
the time. Okay, But like before that, I see a lot.
I didn't really pay attention. Yeah, well I didn't pay attention.
But I know, listen, I know for a fact I'd
never noticed a blue jay in my backyard until my
dad passed away.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
And we can actually fact check that because that was
in your bird watching face.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, and you would have known, I played, you would
have bird beingo. You would have had it written down
on a cart fact. Yeah, Like I would have known, oh,
blue jays visit me because I basically sat in my
kitchen table and did puzzles and drank coffee and looked
at my berts. And that's why Haley titled this email
the subject line is cardinals slash blue jays slash loved
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ones slash butterflies. So she knew, like also about my
blue jay being my dad. And someone might be like, okay, fine,
I'm Amy, come on, blue Jay's probably came. You just
didn't notice them, And I'm like, it doesn't matter. Still,
it's bringing me comfort. Don't ruin that.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Who would ever say that?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
People? You do?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Blue jays? People, people, people on the internet. Do blue
jays mean something? Or is that just a bird that you?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Oh? Good question. I just assigned it to my dad
because like he had just died and my mom was
already the cardinal, which my mom. The crazy thing about
my mom is she can be the red one or
the brown one. The brown ones are female and the
red ones are male.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
But a red cardinal is a male, yes, and the
females are brown.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I don't know that I would recognize a brown cardinal.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
They look exactly like the cardinal, except for brown.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
They have the little on The reason I know it's
a cardinals because it's red, unless I just like the other.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Red birdl hawks, they look the same like you.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
You're speaking from somebody who used to play bird bngos,
so you can recognize dif for birds.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Okay, I guess yeah, I guess you kind of have to
study birds to know, but you study other things. Okay,
what do blue jay symbolize? Blue jays relate to everything
from strength to confidence to communication. Oh side note, my
dad's favorite color was blue. And sometimes a cardinal and
a blue jay come to my feeter and I'm like,
my mom and my dad are back together.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Figure that?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Okay, to confidence to communication, depending on the context in
which you see them. For some these birds have the
reputation of being loud, aggressive and mean. That was not
my dad. However, certain cultures see them as lucky or
a symbol of good things to come. Oh. Blue Jays
typically form monogamous pair bonds for life both sexes. Oh well,
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that wasn't my dad.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Wait a second, but wait a second, does the blue
jay If you blue jay's your dad, is it with
a red cardinal?
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Because that, yeah, is a man. It doesn't matter. My
mom is my mom is. She doesn't identify as she
is they Okay, all right, okay, you know what I mean. Yeah,
it's all good. But this is in the spiritual Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
In the spiritual world, there is no gender because it's
a construct that we made here, right, Okay, great? Moving on.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
That also makes you to give the Barbie movie or
just like I do not have a vagina, he.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Does not have whatever heat and then it was like, yes,
I do. It was so funny.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I feel like we're gonna be talking about the Barbering
movie for like a year.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I'm gonna go see it again in theaters hopefully.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Oh when it comes back out, I got I'll watch
it like I'm dreaming. I'm not gonna go see it
in theaters again. Like Pump the Brakes, I want to.
I'll watch that when it comes out, like I can
watch it at home. It's just one of those. But
I want to start watching Crowded Room and Silo because
you told me about.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
That and Anu of Ten. Both of them very different too.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Well.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
They're both a little mysterious, but the Crowded Room is
more mental health focused. Silo is like kind of like
Hunger Games type vibes. Yes, Bobby really liked Silo a lot,
but he loves.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
End of End of the World.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, hopefully this never happens to us. Crowded Room, you
can predict what's gonna happen, but that that doesn't matter.
It's not part of that. The mystery isn't really part
of that. The good content Silo, you have no idea
what's coming. It's so good and it leaves you with
the cliffhangers, so that means there's gonna be another season,
which makes me so happy.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Have you ever thought about if it was the end
of the world like that, would you I just surrendered myself.
Have you ever thought about if it was the end
of the world like that, would you.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Just surrender myself?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah? I kind of feel that way too, Whereas like
there's some personalities, like when Bobby talks about it, like
he's like in training for it now, like he he says, yeah,
if that were to happen, I mean, I'd be a leader.
You want to join my team, and I'm like, I
don't want to leave anybody. I mean I want to
be a leader in other areas of life, but like
not that, and I don't really want to deal with that.
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And I'm like, just sacrifice me, yes, make me a bird.
Let you fly far far away from me, like I
will just gladly join my parents.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
The anxiety, yeah, the anxiety of not knowing what's gonna
happen or all of that, Like if a kidnapper was
chasing me or something, I would just be like, you
can just just do what you're gonna do and then
we'll call it a day.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, definitely, just sad. I guess well, funny we're talking
about end of the world stuff because I have an
email sort of like that from Ashley. Hey, Amy, I
was listening to the fifth Thing episode and you mentioned
getting hair extensions where it's cae just kidding. Is not
into the world about it. It's about hair extensions, which
(12:30):
is funny because it's the end of the world. We
would not be worried about that. Would you mind sharing
what kind and how you feel that they are in
your hair? Any damage to your hair? I want to
get them, but I'm hesitant about it due to cost
and fear of hair damage. Thanks for your feedback, appreciate
your time. Okay, Ashley, I'm gonna have to find out
and get back to you. But right now, my hair
(12:50):
extensions are so grown out that it's probably doing damage
to my hair because there's so much room between my
hair and then the extension that sometimes I feel like
it gets it's caught, and like when I'm brushing my
hair that it's ripping it. But I'm going to get
the details and I'll do a follow up. But my
main point about this is I've been thinking of maybe
(13:14):
just getting one of those hairs.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I was about to say that that's what my hair
person told me to get.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, because you can just take it in and out
as you please. Yes, And it's so much less expensive, right,
you don't have to deal with the maintenance, and then
when you want the hair, you have the hair. I mean, honestly,
you could take it with you into the end of
the world, Hunger Games, situation, anything post apocalyptic.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
So I feel like you just read my mind because
I saw I was going to say, what if you
ever did this. I don't know about hair extensions, but
I was talking to the girl that does my hair
because she's going to do my hair for the wedding,
and I gave her a picture and I said, I
don't think my hair can do this because I don't
have that much hair. Should I get extensions for the wedding?
And she said, honestly, we can color match you with
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a halo. It's a couple hundred dollars and you can
wear it whenever you want. I don't know how often
you have to get hair extensions, but this is going
to last for like ever. Well, I don't follow those rules.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I don't follow those rules because I don't want to
pay as much, like I try to go as long
as I possibly can, because I will be honest, it
is pricey depending on the different type of hair too.
But that's why that's why we're talking about the halo.
That's why I still wanted to bring this up, even
though I need to ask my hair person what kind
I could even ask her, like what are the different
options and what are what are some good options for
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people that she would recommend, Like I should probably just
ask my hair person to give me a rundown, and
then I'm going to look into Well.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I'm getting a halo, so I'll hello.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Beyonce or is that Destiny Show?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
No, that's Beyonce, but my helo Hello, I don't think
I's hello. Do I sound country?
Speaker 1 (15:00):
That did? Definitely really high low Hi.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Well, I'm gonna get myself a halo and I'll let
you know. I was supposed to get it last time
I was there, but I forgot.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
And Ashley, I've been doing the extensions for so long
now at this point, I never had extensions until after
my mom died. My hair started falling out from the stress,
and I just was like, what is happening? Because I
always I had thick, longer hair and curly and it
was pretty healthy ish, and then it was just thinning
(15:30):
and thinning, and that happens with age anyways, but also
under the stress, like I just was likeugh. So my
hair person was like, we can do extensions, and so
I said, okay, Well then it's kind of like once
you go, you just go. And there's been a time
where I had really short hair twenty twenty ish. It
is COVID, so we weren't doing much anyway. So I
just like didn't have the extensions and I had really
(15:50):
short hair, and it was really easy. But then I
wanted to grow my hair back out and I wanted
to be faster, so I got the extensions back in
and people are like, oh my god, your hair grows
so fast, and I'm thinking, no, it's it's fake. It's extensions.
But the problem is I've had them for so long
that to answer the question of like how damaging is it,
(16:11):
I think I would have to at this point take
it all out again and then assess my situation because
I don't know how much is like coming out, or
when she removes it, how much is pulling. I feel
like my hair is healthy right now, but half of
it's fake.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
We got to get you a hair appointment.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Let's get a halo. Oh I know, trust me. I'm
trying to get in because I missed my last one.
And I was like, well, that's fine, that'll save me
money because i'll be like a month later. But then
she fills up so fast that like, now I'm desperate
to get in because you can see the way they are,
like you can start to see them, but I don't
really care. Whatever does she'd sell Halo's No, that's what
(16:46):
my ground does really.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
So color match. You have to get color match, so
you know, that's why I would have already ordered it,
but I like left in a hurry last time, and
she was like, dang it, we meant to color match you.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Well let's do it. Yeah, okay, Well where what is
your Well she is in Columbia, Columbia, Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, I drive forty five minutes. Oh my, but it's
worth it. She's worth it. But I'm sure you could
get a halo somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yeah the internet, Well did you know what color to pit?
But then can I take it into my hair person
and say, hey, match this hair with me.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, bring your hair in your bag
and then pull it out and then can you match
my hair to my halo? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, I feel like we could do that. I don't know,
so Ashley, I have no idea if that was helpful,
but hopefully, because I also see people online talk about
how much they love their halos like influencers.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Oh really, I never heard of it till she told
me about it, and I was like, this sounds psycho genius.
Why don't we have these? Oh?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Would you say psycho genius?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
What I said? This sounds genius? Why don't we have these?
I thought you.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Said this sounds psyched genius.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Like it's this new word I'm trying out see if
it catches on.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Kind of sounded like my harmony and disharmony can mean
harmony quote. Should I regret doing that? Quote? I felt
like I.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Was just laughing because I was like, I feel like
you said harmony and dis harmony like seventy five times
in the span of three minutes. And then you know,
when you keep saying a word, it starts to mean nothing.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah, harmony, hater, I like harmony, harmony, harmony, harmony, harmony.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Holiday, harmony, go yes, shout out Max.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Are you getting a second?
Speaker 1 (18:21):
No, there's no holiday harmony part too. But I did
get a I guess what they call like a residuals
check last month. Well, technically they mailed it to me
in February. It was for international screenings or something. Wow,
I don't know, but I had not checked my mailbox
at work in like several months. So I just got
it and lucky that I got it when I got it,
because the check it says on the check expired after
(18:43):
one hundred and twenty days, And I thought, do you
think I could just call Warner Brothers and be like, hey,
so that check you sent me it expired, Can you
cut me a new one? Or would they be like, well, sorry.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
No, they would because I had a check for selling
my house. I don't understand what it was for. My
dad explained it, but I didn't understand it. Do you
know how you get a lot of fake mail when
you buy or sell a house? Yes, so I thought
this check was one of those fake things. So I
put it in my fake mail pile. And then literally
six months later, we're going through the mail and I'm
(19:14):
sent a picture to my dad and I said, is
this real? And he was like yes, and it's expired
by like four months, so you need to call them
and they'll give you a new one because then they're
like withholding money that is really yours. So think about
if they've said no, then they're withhold. You could like
sue them for that.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, okay, Well if they could
come back and say, well, we sent her the check
and it says one hundred and twenty days.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
It does not say this money has now belonged to us.
If you do not cash this check, check just expired.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Well it made me feel that way, and then I
didn't know because it was for international screenings. I feel like,
is this fake too? Paula Day Harmony, who knows? I mean,
you can't trust anything.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Next Day, Hey, I almost threw out that check.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I mean, speaking of fake hare Sashira got some DM
on Instagram not too long ago that was from a
wig company and she has extensions in her hair and
she likes to wear wigs and different things, and they
were saying because she follows some accounts and so I
guess somehow they decided to target her and the account said, hey,
we'll send you free wigs if you'll post about it,
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and then we'll also pay you six hundred dollars. We
just need twenty five dollars from you first via these
methods of payment or whatever. Insta Shira sends this to me,
She goes, Mom, can I do this? Like I could
get these wigs? And I said, so, they want them
to post them on your social or mine, like you
and your like twenty high school follower friends and y'all
(20:41):
don't even really post on Instagram like it's very It's
not what she do, it's not the kids do. And
so she said, well, I don't know, should I look
into it or what do you think we should say?
Scam scamm, scam, fake care scam, wigscam, not a scam.
And then I'll go to the Instagram of the page,
and of course there was tons of pictures of the wigs,
(21:02):
but if you open up each picture, they were all
published or put up the same thing day. So it
was account that was created.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Is that crazy I bought? Oh wait a second, I
tap about the mirror that I bought that was a scam? Nope, okay,
So I wanted to make this welcome sign mirror for
my wedding and I saw this mirror going viral on
TikTok and it was only fifty dollars. And this mirror
is usually a mirror that would be like hundreds of dollars.
And I'm like, heck, yues I get this for fifty
(21:30):
dollars or doing a sale. I buy the mirror. I
got an email confirmation. It never comes. Weeks go by,
it never comes. So I think to myself, I need
to go check that shipping, like it never even shipped.
I go to the website. Website's gone. So I type
into TikTok mirror scam. They scammed thousands of people. They
just put this mirror up for like a couple days,
(21:52):
got thousands of people to buy it, and then shut
everything down. I fell for it. I mean, it was
only fifty dollars.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
That'st but how can you get away?
Speaker 2 (22:02):
My thing was, how can you get away with this?
There has to be a way to track the people
that did this. They probably made so much money.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Well, maybe TikTok's taking care of it, because I feel
like TikTok swoops in and tries to take things down
as fast as they go up. That are not How
could I fall for that. Yeah, what are you going
to do now?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Well not have a mirror sign?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Well, I have a mirror you could borrow. Do you
want to have a matter?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
That big mirror? That's way too big? What are you
talking about?
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I have another mirror in my room, Like what kind
of mirror we talking? Because I have a mirror and
I could even I have an arch This is square.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I don't really need it. I actually have another idea.
And I think by the time we get married, it
feels like a very trendy thing. I think the mirror
sign is going to be out with the old and
with a new. Yeah. Probably.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Okay, Well, hope y'all are having the day that you
need to have. And you find harmony in the disharmony,
and in the disharmony you find harmony.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Amen?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Amen, Cat? Where can people find you? On Instagram?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
At cat dot and you need therapy podcasts?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
And I'm at radio Amy on socials and radio me
dot com for all your how many needs, all the things?
And Amazon links which Cat's making fun of my fan
that I order on Amazon that you wear around your neck.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I'm gonna buy one.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yeah, I'll send you a link because it's amazing. Okay,
it's just so refreshing. It's so hot outside. Trust me,
I told Cat, you just have to own it like
you own walking weights.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I don't like walking.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
If you power walk with weights, that's what this fan does.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
No, I said, it looks like a fan that you
would either wear to a festival like Coachella or that
you would like wear in the nurse.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
So there's a wide range.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Wide range. Okay, Well it's got Coachella vibes. Yeah, Coachella
elderly vibes. And I am here for it. Which now,
and this has been a couple of weeks, but I'm
starting to work on highlight buttons on my Instagram and
I did make an Amazon Links button that needs to
go on there the fans up there. It's been up there.
Oh yeah, got you, Well go and click the link.
Yeah all right. Did we already say half the day
(24:02):
you need to have?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah, but it isn't hard to say it again.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Okay, half the day you need to have?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Bye bye,