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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I won't let my body out me outwait everything that
I'm made done, won't spend my life trying to change.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'm learning love who.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
I am again.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'm stung. I feel free.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I know every part of me.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
And then hello, always out way. If you feelip but.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
You She'll some love to the vio.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Why get there?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Say you one day?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Anata? Did you? And die out way?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Happy Saturday, out Weigh. This is Leanne here and I'm
so excited to have our special guest Suzanne here with us.
Hello Suzanne, Ai li Aenne. Oh so happy to be here.
So just gonna brag on Suzanne for a second. We
actually came together to work together about five years ago.
She came through my Stressful seeding program. She's been on
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my podcast before. I'll actually link in the show notes
a link to her testimony, super powerful testimony. But the
reason that she's joining us on this podcast series is because,
first of all, she is just the walking, talking epitome
of how to live in this next level version of yourself.
I know that navigating the road of recovery from disordered eating.
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Maybe you're struggling in the midst of an eating disorder,
maybe you're struggling just with the simple fact of body
dysmorphia or the shame around your body every single day.
And I say simple, not diminishing it. But you know,
sometimes it feels like it's the only thing we're thinking about.
And one of the reasons I wanted to do this
series is because there is so much life outside of it.
And I know for me, when I was in the
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midst of my healing journey, I wasn't paying attention to
all the other stuff that was in play because I
was so consumed with food in my body. And that's
why we really wanted to bring you this series to
really break through breakdown within the midst of recovery. There's
still so much of life to be lived, to be had,
and I want you guys to just be open to
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that and think about that too. So today's specific, and
we're going to be covering a bunch of different topics,
but today we're going to be talking about navigating life
beyond the checklist, which is so appropriate for this time
of year. So first of all, I'm gonna turn it
over to Suzanne and just have her share her thoughts
on this. But really it's the difference between you know,
doing doing, doing, always in the hustle, always in the striving,
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versus being. And we talk about all the time about
becoming this next level version of yourself. But how do
you do that when you're so used to only living
in the doing and what you get done, what you
don't get done, weighing your measure and measuring your worth
by that factor. But also this concept of like deciding
who you want to be within the doing versus again
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measuring yourself by the doing, and how it's just so
life is so much simpler and better when you think
about doing less so that you can be more. So Hello,
hello again, Suzanne, Thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Oh, it is such a pleasure to get to have
this conversation with you. Leanne. You know that I love
this concept of who do I want to be instead
of what I want to do? This really was such
a mind shift for me when you pose that question,
and I started to do some of the work of
figuring out my own self compass what are the things
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that are most important to me? And I'm smiling as
I think back five years working on that and how
I was even judging myself about the words I was
selecting through what would be the way that I wanted
to define myself. There was such pressure I was putting
on myself to think I have to do this a
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particular way and in a particular timeframe, and thinking that
it was all worthy of a gold star or not.
And the reality is you helped to guide me to
really think about important questions of when I am living
my life, how do I want to show up? Who
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is it that I am at my very core? And
it helped me to identify for me, I want to
be loving, I want to be kind, I want to
not feel frantic. I want to show up prepared. I
want to be a good listener, I want to be
a good friend. And I want to be kind and
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offer all of those things to myself too as well
as to others.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And you know I was really early in our time
together put to that test because just shortly after we
started working together, my dad died and life through such
a huge curve ball, and that was one of the
times to really think about who do you want to
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be as you go through this experience. Does it mean
that I never get impatient or frustrated or angry? Of
course not. But I don't want those to be the
guiding principles of my life. I want absolutely and experience
that is calmer and kinder and more forgiving to myself.
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And I think back, it really has been about allowing
my true light to shine and get out of my
own way so that I can be who I know,
my very best self to be inside deep inside, I
know who that is, and just giving myself permission to
be that.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, And it's such a massive distinction because I know
for me, when I was in the midst of you know,
really the crux of my food and body shame and
the disorder, I wasn't thinking about any of that. That
wasn't even in my paradise. I was literally just so
obsessed with my appearance. And there's no shame if that's
where you are, or that's where you might be, being
aware that you've been practicing as well. But I know
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that you know, we're thinking about what are we eating,
what are we not eating? Will will I gain weight?
Will I lose weight? And again, no shame if that's
some of the conversation that's taking over your brain. But
there's so much more on the outside of that, and
you know you're right when your dad died. It was
just a few weeks in and it was really one
of those things that held up a mirror. I remember
you were like, I still have to I'm still as
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committed to my own freedom as I was, and my
dad would want this for me, Like I'm yes, I
need some time to go grieve and we're gonna have
a you know, do what we need to do with
our family. And you took the time that you needed,
but it didn't change your commitment to yourself because you
made that decision. And then I remember, it's funny when
you I don't know if you remember this, but we
were on a call one time, and this was this
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was after you had come back and you were in
the thick of it, right you were doing the work,
and we were on a call and you're like, Leanne,
I'm just letting you know I've been so burnt out.
Work is crazy, like there's so much going on right now.
But I made this wheel like a chart. It was
like a wheel or a chart or something. I remember,
and you were so excited. You were so proud of it.
And it had list after a list after action item,
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and I remember I sat you down, this is on
the phone. So we were sat down and I was like, listen,
I love that you're excited this chart, but what if
right now this chart was like the last thing you needed.
What if you actually needed some healing and recovery and
not a doing doing doing? And I really think that
was one of the first times that you got cracked
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open to this distinction of the being versus doing. So,
first of all, do you remember that.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Vividly I had created this light colored chart. I was
so excited about it.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yes, I'm like, I have this time, and I'm going
to spend this time doing this and this and this
and this and this. And it really was illuminating when
you said, hold on, let's put that chart aside.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
What's behind that? Why do you want to do those things?
What version of yourself feels like that's what you have
to do? And it really opened my eyes to say,
this person who strives for perfection and this person who's
measuring herself based only on accomplishments, is the one driving
that chart. Okay, So I love the question that you've
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post over and over again, how are you weighing and
measuring your life? It helped me to say, what are
the things that I that truly matter to me, that
I want to measure my life by. Some of that
is accomplishment professionally, but the bigger pieces of it are relationships,
the trust that I can build with others, the amount
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of love that I can share with others. I'm a singer,
so you know, am I using my creative self in
the ways that make me feel satisfied and bring that
gift to other people? How often am I reaching out
to somebody? How often am I doing something kind for
a stranger? Those to me are the more important ways
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that I measure my life now instead of what's all
the activity that I've done. And at the end of
the day, like I'm falling into bed completely exhausted and
wired because I got that hope to do list done.
I don't like to live that way anymore, and I
was living that way constantly at that time, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
And two big distinctions that just came out of what
you said is, you know, first of all, what you
were weighing and measuring was based on what you wanted
others to perceive you of. It was doing for others,
giving to others, performing for others. But also, like when
you think about that chart, and that chart was amazing.
It was perfect for you in the right time and
right place. But in that moment, what you needed was
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to receive and fill your cut back up and be
grounded and relaxed and rejuvenate and regenerate and all those things.
And when you became that, when you realize, like, no,
who I really want to be right now is peace.
Who I really want to be is calm and grateful,
versus think about when we're just pleasing and performing for others,
we end up being resentful right and burnt out.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, I was getting accolades and awards and all sorts
of public recognition for the things that I was doing,
and I still felt empty and not fulfilled by that
because I wasn't filling my own cup and identifying who
did I want to be? I was only looking at
those external pieces as validation.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
And when you filled that cut back up and got
clear and grounded and who you wanted to be, that
chart would have been so much more beneficial to you
in that version of you exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And that chart never resurfaced. I have other things that
I and different ways that I, you know, strategized for
myself and things that I want to do and that
chart just has not seen the light of day again.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I love it, and maybe it'll ground itself or a resurface,
but when it does, it'll be coming from the right
right place for you. So wrapping a bow around this
concept of who you want to be versus what you
want to do or beyond the checklist, can you just
share a little bit of your experiences of what it
was like when you just entered into the conversation of
doing less and being more, or maybe it meant like
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subtracting in order to add. Can you just just share
a little bit of what that looked like for you.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah. I think one of the things that stands out
to me is this, I had this idea that it
was going to be an automatic shift and having to
allow myself permission to recognize that the changes that I
was making for myself were gradual and building upon themselves.
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So I wasn't going to automatically just not have my
to do list or a checklist, absolutely, because that was
just that felt so foreign. But I was starting to
gradually add in time to my day to do some
gratitude journaling, and I was adding time into my day
for a couple of minutes of meditation and a couple
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of minutes of stretching, and I was letting my mind
rest in a way that I hadn't been allowing it
to do previously, and that helped in those gradual shifts
to identify how did I feel inside? What was my
body telling me? The message was like, wow, I was
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really wired and it was lovely to have a little
time to let my thoughts unravel a little bit, and
it helped me then to identify, oh, this is a
different way of being, and I could start to be
this way throughout my day while still fulfilling the things
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that I wanted to fulfill throughout the day. I'm still
showing up in relationships, I'm still showing up at work.
I'm still showing up in creative pursuits. But I don't
have to be so frenzied in doing that and feel
like everything has to be done and feel honestly, there
were days I felt like I was a guitar string
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pulled and pulled and pulled so tightly that it was
just a moment away from snapping. And I love that
I've given up what that feels like. You know, I'm
pointing to the middle of my chest because that's where
I felt it in my body, like I was stretched
so tight to be able to just like give myself
that permission to loosen. And that's part of how I
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want to be instead of what I want to do.
I want to be a more relaxed, more at peace,
more loving and kind version of me. And it was
a gradual process. It was not overnight, and it felt
foreign when it first started, but now it just feels lovely.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I'm so glad that you mentioned that, because first of all,
it's it's we're talking about doing less and being more,
and that goes with the transformation process too. Like it's slow,
it's gradual. The nervous system learns and adapts best when
it's in minimums, not in maximums. That whole zero to sixty, harder, faster,
more mentality is just not sustainable and your brain does
not learn that way. But also, you know, you had
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to figure out what it looked like for you. It
can't be a cookie cutter, one size fits all. That's
why I strongly encourage everyone to find your version of
this conversation, because you know, Suzanne's version of is not yours,
and my version of it is not yours. It's got
to be your ingredients to make it last a lifetime.
So thank you so much for illuminating this topic. We're
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going to be back with so much more. We have
an entire series here with Suzanne, and just keep in mind, like, yes,
it goes with the understanding that she went through the
process of getting out of that toxic all or nothing
diet mentality and really you know, building a new relationship
with food in her body. But we really wanted to
emphasize the things that live outside of that, because again,
this healing journey can be all consuming, So just keep
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that in mind as we're going about these conversations and
we are going to be back next Saturday with this
concept of owning your worth in the face of haters.
It's one thing to own your worth when you're by
yourself in a room, but when you have people that
are actively speaking out against you, trying to diminish you
and it's in your face, that is a different story.
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And Suzanne can share a lot to relate to that.
So thank you so much for being here, Suzanne.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
We really appreciate you. Oh, thank you so much for
the invitation to join you.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Absolutely, we're excited for you to come back next week
and ladies, if you want to learn more about how
to rewire your brain and heal from your own version
of the all or nothing mentality for good, but without
restricting yourself and obsessing and punishing yourself, head on over
to stressless eeating dot com and check out the free webinar.
You can also find me on socials at LeAnn Ellington. Well,
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we will be back next week. Thanks for listening, ladies. Bye,