April 18, 2024 • 37 mins
Do you believe in signs from the other side? Amy does & her guest, Gracie Moakler, has a powerful story about a message she recently received from the other side. It's so clear that God was using this sign (from Gracie's sister) as a way to bring comfort and peace when it was very much needed. Amy also shares a message she got from her mom a few days ago (via a cardinal) that was very comforting as well. Side note: Go listen to Kacey Musgraves' song Cardinal ASAP if you haven't listened to it yet...it's so good!! If you don't believe in signs...well don't worry...they chat about other things too!
Gracie is the founder of Emergency Confetti, a mom of 2, and wife to her sweet husband Steve...she wears a lot of hats and at times she wonders what she's gotten herself into. Being a small business owner comes with challenges...but if you want the garden...you've got to pull the weeds (fave quote from the episode!) Gracie has had to learn to expand + to not make her business her identity (i.e. separating herself from hard situations like taking out a big loan to make aforementioned expansion possible) + to not compare herself to other moms/business owners on social media.
Gracie & Amy also talk about they're attempt at little to no clothes shopping this year + joy vs. happiness + 4 things gratitude (Gracie shares a book, a show, a drink and an IG follow that she's thankful for...so maybe there's a 'recommendation' in her gratitude that you'd enjoy!)
HOST: Amy Brown // RadioAmy.com // @RadioAmy
GUEST: Gracie Moakler // @GracieMoakler // @emergencyconfetti
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Cas up little food for yourself life. Oh it's pretty bad. Hey,
it's pretty beautiful. Beautiful that for a little more than
it's exciting, said he.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You're kicking it with four with Amy Brown, Happy Thursday,
four Things. I am excited to have my friend Gracie
Moechler back on. And I say back on because you've
been on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I think this is third time times.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I feel like you've even popped
on randomly before that, and there might be more. And
then your husband, Steve, he's also been a part of
the podcast, Steve Mochler. So your wife to Steve, you're
a mom of two and you're also an entrepreneur. You've
founded a few companies. The most recent one is Emergency Confetti,
which we've talked about on the podcast before. And I
(01:04):
love the concept of it and you know, just being
all about celebrating the little things. You and I got
into a conversation the other day and it was through
Instagram DMS, yes, which that's the funny thing about friendships
is sometimes you can be having a full blown conversation
on text and then at the same time in you know,
DM inside of Instagram, and then you may even like
(01:26):
see each other that day, so you're having a lot
of different ways to communicate. And I had posted about
seeing a cardinal when I went to look at a
house because I'm thinking about selling my house.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Oh my goodness, So I.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Went to an open house and when I saw the cardinal,
it wasn't so much that I felt like my mom
was sending me a message a buy this house, but
it was more so, this is your confirmation that you
can have peace about selling your home, because when I
first got divorced, I didn't want to sell the house
because I wanted the kids to have some sticky and
(02:00):
get adjusted to their dad's new house. And now they've
been going back and forth. One week got dad's, one
week here, and they're adjusted and they have both expressed
me they'd be totally fine if we moved. And honestly,
when you go through something like a divorce, the cell
of a house it probably would have been what made
the most sense economically and dividing of assets. But we
(02:22):
work to make it happen. And we'll get into this later.
Because I know you've taken out a helock he like.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
It does not define you.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
It is not your identity but I just wanted peace
about selling the house because I think I've wanted to
for a while, and you know, like just the energy
in this house for me sometimes was a bit much,
but we've moved on from that. It just has some
bad memories but also has really good memories. But what
my mom showed me, and my mom often shows up
as a cardinal and I ask for those signs, was like, hey,
(02:53):
you can have peace about selling your house and there
are other homes out there for you. Wow. And then
when I posted that I was looking for a sign,
you said, Hey, remind me to tell you about your
story with your sister.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Last year, I was going through a little bit of
a hard time with Emergency Confetti and just had had
some things fall through, had had some disappointments, and I
was just fun discouraged. And I was reading in Hebrews
and it was talking about like the cloud of witnesses
around us, like we're surrounded by such a great.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Cloud of witnesses.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
And I was sitting there and all of a sudden,
I literally just started bawling, and I felt like it
was my sister Hope who to back up, my mom
had had five miscarriages before she ever had my older brother,
and then she had a stillborn And when she told
me that, I didn't really know what that meant, you know,
Like she said still born. I was like, oh, that's
sound like a baby didn't make it here. But I,
as a mom now literally cannot imagine like she was
(03:43):
full term and did not make it Earth's side. So
I've always known about her, but I've never really thought
much about her. And I never thought I always wanted
a sister, but I never really thought, oh, no, you
have one, you know. And so I was reading this
about the Great Cloud of Witnesses and I start bawling,
and I just felt like Hope was like, I'm cheering
you on this. And I just like saw this picture
of her like popping confetti and I'm bawling. I'm like,
(04:05):
I'm sitting my room. I'm bawling over this sister I've
never met.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
So I'm like, was that wild? Like did I just
make that up? You know?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
You always just wonder like am I where's this coming from?
I just felt so true and just I felt so encouraged.
I felt peace. I felt like, you know what, like
I'm not in this alone. Running a company is hard
and it can feel lonely at times, but I'm not alone.
So I took my kids to the water.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Park that day.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
We were at the splash pad and the boys were
playing and I was standing there and this mom is
calling to her daughter. She's like, Hope, come here, Come here,
Come here, Hope. And I look over and I'm like,
oh my gosh, that girl's name is Hope. And I'm
like that's so sweet, Like that's so crazy. So then
literally one minute later, another mom's chasing her daughter. She's like, Hopey, Hope, honey,
come here, and like all the little girls are named
Hope at this water park. And I'm just like, okay,
(04:47):
I know that that's what that was. I know that
it was Hope, just like give me a message of
encouragement and just like cheering me on.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
When you feel it, it's like you just know. It's
this comfort and peace that's unexplainable to anybody else, and
it's okay if nobody else gets it. But I think
that was her sending you the confirmation of yes, what
you felt this morning was me me yeah, And I
need you to know that so next time you feel it,
(05:14):
you won't doubt because you said that you were already like,
was I just making that up?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Was that?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
And this gives you that confirmation of know what you
felt was real? And now it's almost like that line
of communication is now open because you know you said
you hadn't even you've never had that happen before, but
you never.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Had that happen, hadn't even like thought. And now I'm
like I think about her so much more. And it's
interesting because I always pictured her like she would have
been the oldest, and then there's three younger and I
just pictured her as like this songbird because my parents
are both musical, but I didn't get that neither, none
of my brothers did, so like I bet she was music,
Like I bet she would have been a songbird. So anyway,
I have a big week this week and have some
big meetings and stuff, and two mornings in a row,
(05:54):
when I've been sitting having my quiet time, there is
like this beautiful songbird outside my window, singing the exact
same melody, and it literally made me weep this morning,
where I was just like, oh my gosh, like I
just feel so much, like I know, like I could
cry thinking about it. I'm like, I just how amazing,
just to feel like that we're not alone and stuff
like when stuff's hard, it's just like God is so
much bigger than these boxes we put him in, and
(06:14):
he can use so many different ways to encourage us.
And like you, I told Steve yesterday, I said, there
was this bird and it had the most beautiful melody.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I couldn't get over it.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
And then this morning again I'm doing my quiet time
and just really reflecting, and it was back.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Oh well, And you know that makes me think of
the Casey Musgrave song Cardinal, and I feel like, now
I hear that song, maybe different than not. Now, I
feel like, now there's a song that explains what I've
been feeling ever since my mom died, because the reason
why she's a cardinal is the morning that she passed
away in my sister's home, right outside my sister's bedroom window,
(06:49):
which is where we had hospice care set up, there
was a cardinal in the tree like right after, and
so that's been you know, everyone has their own signs.
For some people it might be something else, but for
us it was that. And then wrote a song called Cardinal,
and I'm like, it helps to affirm what I'm feeling
and like even to your point of the songbird too,
and the lyrics from the first part of the song
(07:10):
is I saw the sign or an omen on the
branches in the morning. It was right after I lost
a friend without warning words unsaid Scarlet read Cardinal, Are
you bringing me a message from the other side? Wow?
Except for you've heard the song, you know it goes
like cardenal and.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
It gets in your head.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Are you bringing me a message from the other side?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
She says? It so catchy and now you.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Can be like songbirds.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
So Bird Hey, I'm like, hey, hope up?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Is this help talking to me from the other side?
So that song is very special. So I'm glad Casey
wrote it. And music is so powerful. I feel like
even for me, believing in signs like that is a
sign of growth and expansion of who I am and
what I'm open toes. And I know that the word
(07:58):
expand has been a very powerful word for you in
this season, especially of launching a new business and being
a mom and figuring it all out. And you know
there's dads out there launching businesses too. It's not just
that I'm just defining that is who you are, like
your days are spent being a friend, a wife, a mother,
a business owner, And so what does the word expand
(08:20):
mean to you and why is it so important right now?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Well, when we went on our walk and we're talking
about expam. It launched actually after an idea that Amy
had shared with me, the story of a little boy
in his mom's car and he's like, hey, mom, shock
those confetti in my pocket and his mom's like, no,
don't throw that.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
But why do you have it?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
And he said, it's my emergency confetti I carry everywhere
in case there's good news. And I just thought that
was like the coolest idea, like the best mindset shift,
Like what if we were all on the lookout for
good news? What if instead of thinking what if this
bad thing happens, we're like, but what if it goes well?
And when it does go well, I have this confetti.
I'm ready to pop it, you know. And for me personally,
I had just come out of a period of my
life where I had a lot of anxiety. I was
(08:57):
really struggling with what if this happens? What if this happens?
So I think for me that mindset shift is like
part of what was a huge.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Part of my healing journey.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
You know, it's just those subtle one day at a time,
one decision at a time, but what if it goes well?
What if it goes well? But what if it goes well?
And it changed my mind. So I think when you
told me that idea, I was like, oh my gosh,
this is like a product that embodies that. So we
literally launched with just one spontaneous celebration kit that was
kind of based off of a first aid kit, so
had like the little plus sign on it, like a
first aid kit, but instead of band aids inside those
(09:26):
confetti poppers in case of good news. So that was
the first product we launched with, and I was like,
let's just see where it goes. You know, I had
no clue where we were going, what the plan was. Honestly,
I just started for better or for worse. That's my
launch plan.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
You just you just do it.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
You start something and then just like see what happens.
So we launched with that, it went really well, had
a great response, and then from there we've expanded. So
my plan was, Okay, I think wholesale will be a
really great avenue for us. You know, when people were
at a store. I think seeing something and buying it
spontaneously is probably the best way to get this out there.
So I started doing research and there's this one wholesale
(09:59):
company that's like my dream, and I'm like, this is it,
this is who I need to be. With the brands
they represent, I feel like we would sell so well
with So I just took off running for that and
they answered me and said, we love your stuff, but
you have a product that's not a brand. Great challenge accepted.
I will create a brand. So all twenty twenty three,
I'm working like a mad woman to develop products, to
expand our line, to be a brand, and ended up
(10:22):
landing that Dream sales group ten months into business, which
was like, oh my gosh, I could not believe. I
was like, this is the best things that ever happened
to me. You know, I can't believe that worked. Like
it feels rare sometimes that you feel like you have
this dream and this goal and you go after it
and then it works. So then where do you go
from there?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
You know?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
So all it to say, we expanded, we expanded our line.
Now we're expanding our sales team. Now we have these
sales groups we landed that one and another one on
the West coast. But with that, it's like, well, now
that we've expanded, We've expanded our product offering, We've expanded
the loan that I've taken out for this business, We've
expanded my time being stretched, We've expanded you know what
we're expected to do. Now we're in the showroom next
(10:56):
to Kate Spade and Bandeau and Furbus Studio and all
these amazing and I'm like, first of all, who did
I trick to get in here? I feel like, I mean,
I don't even know how we're like in there with
these people. But with that being said, the expansion started
to expand. My stress started to expand, just like a
little bit of me feeling like what did I do?
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Do you follow Huberman Lab? Do you follow Huberman Lab?
Do you know who that is?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I had Instagram, so he posted this thing that I
thought was so helpful where he said, if you want
to actually expand your stress response, that's like why cold
plunging is good. When you get into a stressful situation
and you can keep your eyes on one thing, that's
when you actually expand, You expand when you're in a
hard thing and you do it and you can keep
your mind focused. And so I think this season for
me has been expansion of Okay, we're in now this
(11:51):
new hard situation that's so fun and the hardest thing
I've ever done. And to do that and to feel
that pain, to feel that pressure and that like pulling
in that expansion, but keeping your eyes on the prize
and keeping your eyes on like why you're doing what
you're doing has really expanded me as a person, if
that makes sense, and expanded my capacity for pain and
for joy and for things that I didn't think were possible.
(12:13):
So that's why I think it means so much to
be right now.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Have you actually physically cold plunged.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
No, I have not cold plunged. So you know we
have in the garage.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
You need to go out there right now.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I have to leave right after this.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, No, I was like, shoot, we should have like
made that part of.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Get in there.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I do think that, yeah, there's a challenge there, and
I like that analogy and when it comes to making
space for it, like what advice do you have for
people from what you've experienced, not just in like focusing
and keeping on the one thing, but like in your expansion, Like,
what does it felt like for you to be able
to expand and open yourself up to all these different possibilities?
(12:50):
And then what advice do you have for people that
are like, well, yeah, that's great. If someone's telling you,
you know, your product not a brand, it's very scary
to launch into all of that. So what advice do
you ever people that maybe need to take that next
step to grow and maybe it's not a business, that
could be in anything, putting themselves out there, getting on
a dating app, whatever it is that they maybe need
to take the next step to do, Like you just.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Dive right down, I would say, first of all, just
go for it, just try it, Like things usually go
better than you think, Like again, but what if it
goes well? That's like on half our products now because
like but truly, like what if it did go well?
You never know till you try. So I'm a big
proponent of just trying and then from there know your
why because I think when things get hard, your why
connects you to your purpose and that's going to help
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you on the hard times. And so as I've been
like this, you know, experiencing these growing pains which have
felt very painful, that why and feeling that purpose of
you know what, this.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Feels crazy or like what did I do?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
But I'm like, no, I believe I'm called to bring
joy and to bring this product, and this feels like
what the Lord has called me to and so that
why really helps ground you when you want to bolt,
you know, And I think I never want to knock
anybody on social media, but I feel like in this
culture where it's like it just feels like I go online.
This might just be me and it's my own issue
(14:05):
for comparing. But when it feels like this culture of like, oh,
here's how I make seven figures while I make machas
and homeschool my kids, and I'm just like, that is
not my story. That literally could not feel further from
the truth for me. And so I think just to
feel like for encouragement for someone, it's okay if it
feels hard, and that like pain and purpose are not separate,
and that like I think for me, I like ease.
I always want something to be the easiest and the
(14:26):
most fun. And so in this season it's been like, no,
I feel pain and this feels hard. I feel a
lot of growing pains, but you want the garden, but
you don't want to pull the weeds, you know, So
just being willing to dive in and like really plug
into what you're called to and just that like it's
okay if it feels hard right now, and it's okay
if starting something is not just this linear path to
like all this money and free time, And does that
make sense?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Like yeah no? And I love that saying like if
you know you want the garden, but you don't want
to pull the weeds, and you have to get on
there your hands sturdy? Is that part of a song.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
He wrote that song that was his idea that wasn't mine.
I took it from him.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Well, I think it's a beautiful way to put it
because it's so true. Sometimes you just want to like
skip to the good part. But then we miss out
on some of the expansion. We miss out on the growth,
we miss out on the development.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Like that's how we be who you're becoming, who you're becoming.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
We are in the different challenges and what does this
make possible for us? And then where's it going to
take us next? And even when we hit certain obstacles,
knowing that like okay, well maybe this isn't the way,
but supposed to pivot and go this way. And you've
been great at pivoting and also taking feedback and then
making decisions from there. And one of the decisions you
had to make was taking out the helock to make
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this expansion possible. And I know that that's been a
huge thing for you of like, oh, but I love
that you're very clear about Okay, I'm not going to
get focused on that. That's not my identity. This part
of it doesn't define me and who I am. And
I think sometimes we get wrapped up in some of
our stuff that feels overwhelming at the time. Yes, and
(15:53):
I speak as someone has a he lock too. It's
like or any kind of debt that you may be
or whatever circumstance where there's a lot of pressure. It's like, okay,
this is here, We'll get through this. But this right
here doesn't define me.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Absolutely. Yeah. We had a moment.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
It was last month, So this is all very raw,
but you know, I like talking about it in real
time because that's just that's life, you know. But there
was a moment last month where I just it was
feeling heavy, The helock was feeling heavy. I'm like, I
have taken this very big risk.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Which I'm so happy to do, but it affects my family,
you know, it affects all of us. It affects what we're.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Able to do, and it affects It's just a big
decision that we did not take lightly.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
But it was starting to feel a little bit heavy
where I'm just like, okay, the only way I just threw.
But we're in.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
And one morning I was sitting there breakfast, I just
felt this weight on me and Steve just looked at me.
He said, you know, the helock, it's not who you are.
The loan is not who you are. You really need
to remember that. And I instantly, like I felt like
my breath entered my body again, Like I felt this
just instant release of you know what, You're right, Like,
I'm putting so much identity on my business and I
(16:56):
do that for better or for worse. It's like, I
love being oh entrepreneur, It's so fun, and I love
other women in business, and I love being a mom
all the things. It's like, it's so easy to equate
what you do with who you are, and I just didn't.
I honestly didn't realize how much I was doing that.
And I think that's why the helock was feeling so heavy,
because it felt like, well, if I was like a
great business owner, I would have already figured out to
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be profitable when I would have already figured out X,
y Z. So then you start to be like, well,
am I even that good at this? And well now
we're in it, you know, and just so many like
first of all lies and then ties that just weren't
they're not meant to be there, you know. And so
when he said that, I literally just felt this giant
release of like, oh, you're right, it's not who I am.
And if this thing goes a hell in the handbasket tomorrow,
I am loved. I'm worthy, I'm brave for trying this,
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And I hope inspires for people to try something themselves,
you know, and just like to be a little bit
less tied to the outcome, even though I still hope
the outcomes good, you know, I still hope we can
grow and do all the things. But that was like
a really helpful lesson for me of like, oh, wow,
I have way too much identity tied up in this.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, and well I do think that like you mentioned earlier.
Social media can make it hard when sometimes you're seeing
the highlight reel of people and you're seeing some of
the success in business and they're doing all the things,
but you also don't have the full picture. You don't
know what it took to get there. And maybe it
did work out for them in a snap of a
finger like that. But everybody's story is different. And I
(18:15):
like that you're sharing the honest side in the You're
in the middle of it, you're in the thick of it,
You're you're pulling the weeds, and it doesn't define you.
I like that you said that, or that Steve said
that to you, and now because even your business like
emergency Confetti doesn't define you at all, Like you're so
much more than that, and you did we had to
do to expand the business, and I think it's going
(18:37):
to pay off for you for sure.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I hope.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
So.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yeah, And I think that listened back to this podcast
of years from now and be like either this way
or this way, we're gon, We're help.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
It's good.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah. I think expansion. I like that word, and you've
expanded in so many different ways and now this is
something that doesn't define you. You know that reminds me
of the saying of the data versus the drama, because
I think sometimes we get wrapped up in the drama
of something when really, if you just look at the facts,
it's like, Okay, I have a business. I wanted to
expand it. Therefore I needed to take out a loan.
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I'm expanding my business. This is part of the process.
It's like the data. It's not the drama of Oh,
I took out this loan and I haven't been able
to pay it back yet, and now I'm a failure.
You know, that's the drama. Yes, sometimes we have to
present it as the data and then also have the
reminder like Steve was telling you, and have good people
that are in your life that will look at you
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and say like they'll let you kind of say process
and say what you need to say, but then they're
going to look you in the face and be like
that that doesn't define you. By the way, remember that
I love them. And you mentioned joy earlier and that
you feel as though the Lords, through emergency Confetti, has
called you to spread that joy. And I think an
interesting conversation at times is how people define joy versus
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happiness because I do think that emergency fetti can bring
a lot of momentary happiness, like you and I both
for example, at the beginning of the year, well, I
guess it was the end end of twenty twenty three.
We went to dinner and it was the new year
was starting, and we were like, we're not going to
shop as much this year, and I think I was like,
You're like, I'm going to try for the month of January,
and I said, I think I'm gonna go all year.
(20:12):
And for me, sometimes I would get this temporary happiness
from shopping, like I get this whatever, probably dope Mainus
released or something. I think maybe when you click purchase
and something's righting, But then I've uned up all with
all this stuff and there's not happiness there where joy
is ever lasting, like it's something inside of us, it's
not coming from the outside. So for you, what is
(20:34):
your hope for emergency confetti and spreading joy to others
in that way to where it's more lasting.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yes, something I've been thinking about this year a lot
is like that happiness is fleeting and that it just
feels very weighed in by your circumstances, and that joy
is gritty, And I think what I've learned in this
season is that joy will sit down next to pain,
and Joy's okay with pain, and joy can say hey,
like you're here for a while, you know, and making
peace with it a little bit. And so I think
that that's my thought on joy is that, you know,
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and in the season, even though it's been painful, it's
also been had been some of the moments of deepest
joy of just like making those changes and believing we're
doing something for my family and just those little things
with my kids, like just a hug from them where
I'm like, if this literally closed tomorrow, i am so blessed,
I am so rich in the things that matter.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
And that's joy.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Joy is like seeing what's right in front of you
and just like gratitude and all those things. And so
this year, like you're saying, we cut out shopping, which
are you still doing that? So this year, like you're saying,
we cut out shopping, which are you still doing that?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Well, so mine is I've got Poshmark stuff and if
I sell a certain dollar amount, then I can get
that dollar amount. So yes, I've made some purchases, but
it's not near probably what I would have at this point,
being towards the end of April. Yep, I probably would
have purchased more. And I have iHeart Country Fest coming
up at the first of May, and I went shopping
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in my closet. Normally I always go buy a new outfit.
Now there's still time shop.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yes, I might change my mind, but.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I so far right now have an outfit that I
picked out from my closet that I've worn to previous
things years ago. So you know, good for you. But
it's challenged me to think in a different way. Yes,
and it's like that will also bring me. Sure that
might be temporary happiness, but also there is a certain
amount of joy of like I'm proud of myself, like
this isn't You're digging in as hard as I thought
it was going to be. But then it also is
(22:33):
like do clothes really matter? Why do we put something
on this Like nobody's remembering we're the ones that care
the most. And then I feel like I'm focused on
the wrong things instead of just showing up and doing
my job. Although there is the Dione Sanders saying, if
you look good, you feel good. If you feel good,
you play good. If you play good, they pay good.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Ooh.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
So maybe that's me but justifying wanting to buy something
so that I look good, feel good, and do better
at job. But I picked out something from my closet,
and I think it's only because we made that challenge.
And I do think that that challenge has helped me,
you know, tap into more joy and not seek just
instant gratification for little happiness, spark here and then come
(23:15):
right back down totally.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, we have made some big changes this year.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
So I did the shopping challenge with you, which I
said January and then went into February and then the
only thing I really bought was one swimsuit, but I
did Amazon returns to get it, so I was like,
I did not spend anything extra. I put stuff on
Poshmark that did not go as well for me. Maybe
my stuff's just not that cool or maybe I don't know.
It was a fair of shoes and maybe my foot's bigger.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I don't know. I was like, no one wants to
buy it, so whatever, I haven't made any money from that.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
So when Georgia camer was on the podcast, he was
talking about how his wife uses thread up, which is
like an online thrift situation or consignment there you go
consignment maybe where you put it in the box. I
just sent a box off after he recommended it, but
I haven't experienced the whole process other than boxing, the
close up and shipping it off.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
So you do altogether one thing.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, there's certain requirements for the clothes and as long
as they check the box and you can put them
in and then you decide what you're going to do
with them. If they're unable to sell them, then you
need to decide. I guess if you want them donated
and they'll do that for you, okay, or if you
want to pay it like I guess, have them sent
back to you or something.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I love that versus having to ship out each individual one.
I might have to try that anyway. But yeah, So
this year I stopped shopping, Steve has stopped drinking or
for the most part, and not because either of us
felt like we were out of control in either way,
but just trying to do something different this year, like
what would it look like to really cut down and
like you said on the things that I think give
you that quick dopamine hit, but we really want this
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year to look different when you were trying to do
things different for our family, we're trying to grow businesses
and we're trying to be creative and we're trying to
be present and show up, and so we're just like,
is there anything in the way or is there anything
that we could improve. Steve has started doing his sauna
cold plunch, well not cold plunch, but cold shower. He's
kind of in that era too. I have not started that,
but we're just trying to do things different this year.
And it's been interesting because it almost was like there
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was a little withdrawal, you know, there's that maybe added
to howl. Last month was just so hard where you're like,
you know, it's so much easier if you're shopping and
traveling and doing all these things that just feel exciting
and like give you that temporary like amazing, this is
so fun.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
But also your seven on the Enneagram, so I feel
like you're always chasing fun.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I'm always chasing fun.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
But I think that's the difference right now is I'm like, Okay,
that doesn't lead anywhere. You know, happiness is great, and
I love happiness. I love being happy, you know, I
love fun, I love parties, I love celebration and when
all that's gone, or if all that's gone, like joy
is what sticks around and joy is what's not defined
by those things. And so now I'm like, Okay, Joy's
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what we're going after. You know, I feel joy's really
the goal.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Yeah, I think that's where pimp and joy came from.
With my mom, it wasn't like she was just like,
oh I have cancer, yay spread joy. For her, it
was deeply rooted in her faith and Neamiah eight ten,
the joy of the Lord is my strength. And so
it's like that's where really was coming from. And there
was absolutely hard days and it didn't ignore that. And
(26:03):
we were in the hard days, we tried to acknowledge
them because I think you have to. It'll just help
you process it better. But she knew where the long
lasting inner joy was coming from and how she had
the strength to even have joy during such a trying,
difficult season, and so for her, so neam My eight
ten for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
And as a seven, I think pain feels like scary.
I feel like I've just spent a lot of my
life and a lot of energy trying to avoid pain
and trying to avoid hard things and just going towards ease.
And I think that's part of the expansion as a person,
is just saying, you know what, this eff is in
vain to ignore pain or not have pain. That's just
that's not gonna happen. It's a fool's Errand so what
(26:43):
does it look like to be like pain is going
to happen. Hard things are going to happen, not to
expect them, to expect good things, but to know that
they're going to happen, and to know that joy exists
in all seasons here as available.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Joy can be alongside, it's alongside the pain. You're often
not happy when in pain, yep, but you can have
joy when you're in pain. And that's such a good
reminder that they can.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
They can co exist, will exists together.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Okay, Yeah, I hadn't really ever broken down like yeo.
When you're really going through something hard, you're typically not happy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, you don't have to be happy about it, but
it's different.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah. And you even have these new mugs with sayings
on them, and what's on yours over there?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Okay, mind says celebrate the little things.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Celebrate the little Okay. I thought I was to say,
does that say, expect the good things.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Well, we do have one that says, but what if
it goes well? And then your says, when you focus
on the.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Good, the good gets better.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, that's so cute. And so this is part of
the expansion.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
This is part of the expansion.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
So this is part of the helock.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
This is the healock. You're drinking my heelock cup.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Oh so this ooh alone tastes good.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Oh, taste like money. I love a good. Yes.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
But it's funny because these products. I'll look at it
and I'm like, every day I feel like I need
these sayings. So they are all over my house, so
I'll just look at it and they're great. Celebrate the
little things. It's a reminder. What if it goes well?
It's a reminder. And I truly feel like my personal
journey through this company is marked by these things. So
I am glad to put them out in the world
and hope it encourage somebody else to like folks on
the good, you know, just those little things.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
What else did you end up getting with the heck?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
What else? Make he lock?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Tell us more?
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Okay, Well, we have stationary journals, we have little mini cards,
We have party packs that are like ten packs of
confetti that are designed for like sports teams, you know, graduation, wedding,
great graduation, pross.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah, weddings, back to school. So we have those, and
then we're also launching barwear next month.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
When you say barwear, like my brain instilly thinks of
like a protein bar, but it's not oh oh okay
and not like stuff you wear when you're eating a bar.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I love that you said, though, let's clarify. It's champagne glasses,
coop glasses that say.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Fun like celebratory things like wohoo are yay? So everything
was made to be able to layer together, so like
for different good news occasions. So if someone gets engaged,
we'll have a champagne from miss to missus champagne flute
that can pair with our bridal confetti, could pair with
a bridal journal. So it's all things that you could
like layer when someone has good news in their life.
So you know, for the mug, this might be for
someone who's waiting on good news, you know, And I
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think that's part of the joy is like maybe bringing
joy to someone is when they're in pain. It's not
necessarily Goodness's happened, but maybe it's on the way, maybe
it's coming, and maybe your jobs to speak that into them,
you know. So it's kind of both the end.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
It's like Dolly Parton's quote of like you have to
get through the rain to the storm to see the rainbow.
I love raising it.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yes, that's something like that.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I'm sure Dolly put it, and I'm more concise better way.
But there's a puzz. I had a puzzle. I put
together a doll puzzle.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
You did, I mean, gave you puzzle. You can't see
the rainbow without the rain or.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
If you want to get to the rainbow, you got
to get through the rain. But yeah, thank you for
that Dolly puzzle. Which I think puzzles can be very
therapeutic and something that are this is really good for
your brain in a lot of ways, as is gratitude,
which is why we try to practice that. And so
I thought we could do four things gratitude here as well,
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but very specific four things gratitude with you sharing the
first thing being a book that you're thankful for, and
then maybe a show, movie, documentary, and then a food
or a drink okay, and then an Instagram follow So
those four things.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Okay, let's think, Okay, book I just finished one called
friend Zone by Abby Jiminez. I actually brought it if
you want it, because I'm always like, why not pass passive?
Speaker 2 (30:21):
All, Oh, are you already done reading it?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
You're done?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Night, But I'll take it.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I brought it for you. It's my purse.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
But I love just like a you know, just like
a lighthearted rom com, you know, like after work. Sometimes
this really hard for me to shut my brain off,
and so it's just been a gift for me to
have like a lighthearted like no screen, just sit down.
But it also feels like fun and I like storytelling.
So so friend Zone is the briend Zone is the book.
I thought it was cute, so show this is kind
of funny, but I feel like it would be full swing.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
The Golf documentary. Have you seen that?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Okay, So I've watched a little bit and I through it,
I learned the difference between the PGA and.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
That's drama, you go. I am thankful for that show
because normally Steve will not sit down and watch a
show with me. He is not a show person. But
I love that, like I love that bonding time and
he will watch Full Swing. So I'm grateful for that
right now because it's just something fun we can do together.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Do golf at all. I like to drive the golf
cart class of wine.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
So I went to the driving range with Therapy Cat
and her husband and it's fun. Ok with, like, we
should all go or if Steve and Big P that's her.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Husband, let's do that. Our next hang is at the
golf course. Okay, we're gonna find you a man there,
I'll go.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I'm into that idea.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Okay, well, so shout out to Full Swings for making
a documentary about golf. That's entertaining because I don't really
care much about golf, but I was entertained by it. Yeah.
In fact, I'll revisit it just to learn more. It's
good to kind of understand what's going on in the
midst of your dreams.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
You're so informed.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, I feel like and he's like.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Wow, this is this girl is a unicorn. How does
she know all this?
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah, yes, the unicorn. I feel like I feel like
a lot of people might know.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
I'm not special, But well, what about the third thing,
which would be a food or drink?
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Have you ever been to the Flower Kitchen near Urban
Market in Franklin.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
No, but I love Urban Market.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Okay, so it's right next to there.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
But they have this amazing turmeric latte has oat milk
and it's just been like a calming. I guess it's
about to not be seasoned because it's getting hot out,
but it's like turmeric and cinnamon and oat milk and
it has just been like, my jam give me a
lot of joy.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
I'm not a big into the turmeric in my coffee
because I feel like it tastes very earthy.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, it's kind of earthy.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
This doesn't have coffee in it, though I'm not I
can't really do much coffee, I think kind of it's true.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Well, I used to be big into mass too, and
I don't know why because now I tried to drink
Amascha the other day and I was like, this is
like it's earthy.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
It's real earthy dirt and tastes like dirt, like I.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Like turmeric on like this. There's a curry turmeric sweet
potato recipe that Kimberly Snyder has. Google it if you
want to make it.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
It's so good.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
There's not that any ingredients Actually it's like dice, sweet potatoes,
coconut oil, sea salt, turmeric and curry.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Really good.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Love that, but turmeric in my drink latte. But I
know a lot of people like it, so it's it's
probably good anti inflammatory free as well. It's a good recommendation.
And that's the thing with four things gratitude and sharing
it in this way is it's like people get an
idea of a book to read or a show to watch,
or a drink to try or something like that, and
I feel like you always know, like a yummy if
(33:17):
you had a food one, like a good gluten free
snack situation. There's some pretzel brand, the flat pretzels that
are like pretzels with their squished down flat. They're like
Party Time or maybe I just bought the party size.
I don't.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I don't know if I know those, but send them
to me.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Are the gluten free Pretzel Time?
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Well I did not know this brand, Like we my
kids like the one in the big blue bag and
we're not totally gluten free. But I was talking to
a therapist about just potentially stuff that could be disruptive
to their brains when learning if they were to maybe
have an allergy to it. We were talking about even
like red dyes and how that affects kids and their
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behavior and their ability to concentrate. So I was like,
well it care or to just try to maybe look
for some gluten free stuff just in case. And I
saw that they had those pretzels in gluten free. And
here's the thing. Sometimes the gluten free version of something
is worse and you don't like it. In this case,
there's something about the texture and flavor of the gluten
(34:17):
free version of this that I now know is available,
and it's in a white bag and it's one of
the best. Like, hey, it's one of the best. Well,
there's some in the kitchen. I'll send you home with
something I did one time Steve was wanting to try,
or you said Steve was drinking protein protein a lot
of protein shakes, and I'm like, oh, you need to
give him this Flave City see if he likes it.
(34:38):
And you're like, oh, you liked it. I'm saying home
with a bag.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
I usually leave your house with some sample of some sort,
the ag one which I do love, love with that,
the Flave citylaz yeah powder.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
So maybe today's pretzels.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yeah, I'll send you home with some pretzels.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
So the final and fourth thing that you're thankful for
would be an Instagram follow Hm.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
I feel like I've been enjoying, which is a little niche.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
It's not for everybody, but if anyone starting a business,
specifically in the wholesale world, there's an Instagram called proof
to Product and it's just really helpful practical ways to
kind of navigate the market and people who are doing
it in their stories and that's just been really fun
to listen to and encouraging to me as I'm navigating
a new business.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah. Well, I feel like a lot of this conversation
has been encouraging for anybody that might be navigating so
a new business and what they're starting. And I think
that one thing that I see that you could do
because you're so good at it, because I'm watching you
do it now, is my challenge to you would be
just like you're seeing some of these accounts on Instagram
that maybe sometimes maybe make you feel like you're not
(35:41):
doing enough or you're not doing it right, because if
you're doing it right, things will be going a different way.
But like your business is still new and it's growing,
but I would encourage you to share more behind the
scenes of what's going on, and I know that adds
another thing to your plate. And social media is like, ugh,
it's like the last thing you probably want to get
(36:01):
to when you're navigating all the different things as a mom,
a wife, a business owner, but just from time to time, so.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Love these things. I think you received.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
You can share some of the nuggets and the real
life stuff that you're going through with that, and I
think it'll just be comforting to others and it'll be
real and raw and people will be like, oh, you know,
grateful for it, like, oh, thank you Gracie for showing me,
because I guarantee you somewhere out there someone needs to
see it or hear it, and hopefully they're hearing it now.
(36:28):
But you've on Instagram. That's where a lot of us
end up and we're kind of scrolling through, like, is
anybody feeling like me? Yes?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
And I love branding, so it's easy to make it
look like oh, they're just killing it, you know, and
it's like it's so fun and it's hard. It's so hard,
you know, and just I need to figure out the balance.
Of that because I am really happy to share about
it and want people to know, like we're all in
this together.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah I think you should. So where can people find
you on social?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
I'm at Gracie Moechler and then at Emergency Confetti is
my business, and.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
You're branding for Emergency Confetti is so good.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I'm obsessed with that. You've worked so hard on it.
And we were joking before we hit record, We're like, yeah,
Gracie's founder, CEO, CFO, chief marketing, chief, chief, all the
she wears all the hats. But that's what it is,
being a small business owners killing it. Okay, Well, cheers, friend,
love you, thanks
Speaker 1 (37:19):
For having me
Cas up little food for yourself life. Oh it's pretty bad. Hey,
it's pretty beautiful. Beautiful that for a little more than
it's exciting, said he.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You're kicking it with four with Amy Brown, Happy Thursday,
four Things. I am excited to have my friend Gracie
Moechler back on. And I say back on because you've
been on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I think this is third time times.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I feel like you've even popped
on randomly before that, and there might be more. And
then your husband, Steve, he's also been a part of
the podcast, Steve Mochler. So your wife to Steve, you're
a mom of two and you're also an entrepreneur. You've
founded a few companies. The most recent one is Emergency Confetti,
which we've talked about on the podcast before. And I
(01:04):
love the concept of it and you know, just being
all about celebrating the little things. You and I got
into a conversation the other day and it was through
Instagram DMS, yes, which that's the funny thing about friendships
is sometimes you can be having a full blown conversation
on text and then at the same time in you know,
DM inside of Instagram, and then you may even like
(01:26):
see each other that day, so you're having a lot
of different ways to communicate. And I had posted about
seeing a cardinal when I went to look at a
house because I'm thinking about selling my house.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Oh my goodness, So I.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Went to an open house and when I saw the cardinal,
it wasn't so much that I felt like my mom
was sending me a message a buy this house, but
it was more so, this is your confirmation that you
can have peace about selling your home, because when I
first got divorced, I didn't want to sell the house
because I wanted the kids to have some sticky and
(02:00):
get adjusted to their dad's new house. And now they've
been going back and forth. One week got dad's, one
week here, and they're adjusted and they have both expressed
me they'd be totally fine if we moved. And honestly,
when you go through something like a divorce, the cell
of a house it probably would have been what made
the most sense economically and dividing of assets. But we
(02:22):
work to make it happen. And we'll get into this later.
Because I know you've taken out a helock he like.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
It does not define you.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
It is not your identity but I just wanted peace
about selling the house because I think I've wanted to
for a while, and you know, like just the energy
in this house for me sometimes was a bit much,
but we've moved on from that. It just has some
bad memories but also has really good memories. But what
my mom showed me, and my mom often shows up
as a cardinal and I ask for those signs, was like, hey,
(02:53):
you can have peace about selling your house and there
are other homes out there for you. Wow. And then
when I posted that I was looking for a sign,
you said, Hey, remind me to tell you about your
story with your sister.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Last year, I was going through a little bit of
a hard time with Emergency Confetti and just had had
some things fall through, had had some disappointments, and I
was just fun discouraged. And I was reading in Hebrews
and it was talking about like the cloud of witnesses
around us, like we're surrounded by such a great.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Cloud of witnesses.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
And I was sitting there and all of a sudden,
I literally just started bawling, and I felt like it
was my sister Hope who to back up, my mom
had had five miscarriages before she ever had my older brother,
and then she had a stillborn And when she told
me that, I didn't really know what that meant, you know,
Like she said still born. I was like, oh, that's
sound like a baby didn't make it here. But I,
as a mom now literally cannot imagine like she was
(03:43):
full term and did not make it Earth's side. So
I've always known about her, but I've never really thought
much about her. And I never thought I always wanted
a sister, but I never really thought, oh, no, you
have one, you know. And so I was reading this
about the Great Cloud of Witnesses and I start bawling,
and I just felt like Hope was like, I'm cheering
you on this. And I just like saw this picture
of her like popping confetti and I'm bawling. I'm like,
(04:05):
I'm sitting my room. I'm bawling over this sister I've
never met.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
So I'm like, was that wild? Like did I just
make that up? You know?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
You always just wonder like am I where's this coming from?
I just felt so true and just I felt so encouraged.
I felt peace. I felt like, you know what, like
I'm not in this alone. Running a company is hard
and it can feel lonely at times, but I'm not alone.
So I took my kids to the water.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Park that day.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
We were at the splash pad and the boys were
playing and I was standing there and this mom is
calling to her daughter. She's like, Hope, come here, Come here,
Come here, Hope. And I look over and I'm like,
oh my gosh, that girl's name is Hope. And I'm
like that's so sweet, Like that's so crazy. So then
literally one minute later, another mom's chasing her daughter. She's like, Hopey, Hope, honey,
come here, and like all the little girls are named
Hope at this water park. And I'm just like, okay,
(04:47):
I know that that's what that was. I know that
it was Hope, just like give me a message of
encouragement and just like cheering me on.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
When you feel it, it's like you just know. It's
this comfort and peace that's unexplainable to anybody else, and
it's okay if nobody else gets it. But I think
that was her sending you the confirmation of yes, what
you felt this morning was me me yeah, And I
need you to know that so next time you feel it,
(05:14):
you won't doubt because you said that you were already like,
was I just making that up?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Was that?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
And this gives you that confirmation of know what you
felt was real? And now it's almost like that line
of communication is now open because you know you said
you hadn't even you've never had that happen before, but
you never.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Had that happen, hadn't even like thought. And now I'm
like I think about her so much more. And it's
interesting because I always pictured her like she would have
been the oldest, and then there's three younger and I
just pictured her as like this songbird because my parents
are both musical, but I didn't get that neither, none
of my brothers did, so like I bet she was music,
Like I bet she would have been a songbird. So anyway,
I have a big week this week and have some
big meetings and stuff, and two mornings in a row,
(05:54):
when I've been sitting having my quiet time, there is
like this beautiful songbird outside my window, singing the exact
same melody, and it literally made me weep this morning,
where I was just like, oh my gosh, like I
just feel so much, like I know, like I could
cry thinking about it. I'm like, I just how amazing,
just to feel like that we're not alone and stuff
like when stuff's hard, it's just like God is so
much bigger than these boxes we put him in, and
(06:14):
he can use so many different ways to encourage us.
And like you, I told Steve yesterday, I said, there
was this bird and it had the most beautiful melody.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I couldn't get over it.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
And then this morning again I'm doing my quiet time
and just really reflecting, and it was back.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Oh well, And you know that makes me think of
the Casey Musgrave song Cardinal, and I feel like, now
I hear that song, maybe different than not. Now, I
feel like, now there's a song that explains what I've
been feeling ever since my mom died, because the reason
why she's a cardinal is the morning that she passed
away in my sister's home, right outside my sister's bedroom window,
(06:49):
which is where we had hospice care set up, there
was a cardinal in the tree like right after, and
so that's been you know, everyone has their own signs.
For some people it might be something else, but for
us it was that. And then wrote a song called Cardinal,
and I'm like, it helps to affirm what I'm feeling
and like even to your point of the songbird too,
and the lyrics from the first part of the song
(07:10):
is I saw the sign or an omen on the
branches in the morning. It was right after I lost
a friend without warning words unsaid Scarlet read Cardinal, Are
you bringing me a message from the other side? Wow?
Except for you've heard the song, you know it goes
like cardenal and.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
It gets in your head.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Are you bringing me a message from the other side?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
She says? It so catchy and now you.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Can be like songbirds.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
So Bird Hey, I'm like, hey, hope up?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Is this help talking to me from the other side?
So that song is very special. So I'm glad Casey
wrote it. And music is so powerful. I feel like
even for me, believing in signs like that is a
sign of growth and expansion of who I am and
what I'm open toes. And I know that the word
(07:58):
expand has been a very powerful word for you in
this season, especially of launching a new business and being
a mom and figuring it all out. And you know
there's dads out there launching businesses too. It's not just
that I'm just defining that is who you are, like
your days are spent being a friend, a wife, a mother,
a business owner, And so what does the word expand
(08:20):
mean to you and why is it so important right now?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Well, when we went on our walk and we're talking
about expam. It launched actually after an idea that Amy
had shared with me, the story of a little boy
in his mom's car and he's like, hey, mom, shock
those confetti in my pocket and his mom's like, no,
don't throw that.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
But why do you have it?
Speaker 3 (08:37):
And he said, it's my emergency confetti I carry everywhere
in case there's good news. And I just thought that
was like the coolest idea, like the best mindset shift,
Like what if we were all on the lookout for
good news? What if instead of thinking what if this
bad thing happens, we're like, but what if it goes well?
And when it does go well, I have this confetti.
I'm ready to pop it, you know. And for me personally,
I had just come out of a period of my
life where I had a lot of anxiety. I was
(08:57):
really struggling with what if this happens? What if this happens?
So I think for me that mindset shift is like
part of what was a huge.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Part of my healing journey.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
You know, it's just those subtle one day at a time,
one decision at a time, but what if it goes well?
What if it goes well? But what if it goes well?
And it changed my mind. So I think when you
told me that idea, I was like, oh my gosh,
this is like a product that embodies that. So we
literally launched with just one spontaneous celebration kit that was
kind of based off of a first aid kit, so
had like the little plus sign on it, like a
first aid kit, but instead of band aids inside those
(09:26):
confetti poppers in case of good news. So that was
the first product we launched with, and I was like,
let's just see where it goes. You know, I had
no clue where we were going, what the plan was. Honestly,
I just started for better or for worse. That's my
launch plan.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
You just you just do it.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
You start something and then just like see what happens.
So we launched with that, it went really well, had
a great response, and then from there we've expanded. So
my plan was, Okay, I think wholesale will be a
really great avenue for us. You know, when people were
at a store. I think seeing something and buying it
spontaneously is probably the best way to get this out there.
So I started doing research and there's this one wholesale
(09:59):
company that's like my dream, and I'm like, this is it,
this is who I need to be. With the brands
they represent, I feel like we would sell so well
with So I just took off running for that and
they answered me and said, we love your stuff, but
you have a product that's not a brand. Great challenge accepted.
I will create a brand. So all twenty twenty three,
I'm working like a mad woman to develop products, to
expand our line, to be a brand, and ended up
(10:22):
landing that Dream sales group ten months into business, which
was like, oh my gosh, I could not believe. I
was like, this is the best things that ever happened
to me. You know, I can't believe that worked. Like
it feels rare sometimes that you feel like you have
this dream and this goal and you go after it
and then it works. So then where do you go
from there?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
You know?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
So all it to say, we expanded, we expanded our line.
Now we're expanding our sales team. Now we have these
sales groups we landed that one and another one on
the West coast. But with that, it's like, well, now
that we've expanded, We've expanded our product offering, We've expanded
the loan that I've taken out for this business, We've
expanded my time being stretched, We've expanded you know what
we're expected to do. Now we're in the showroom next
(10:56):
to Kate Spade and Bandeau and Furbus Studio and all
these amazing and I'm like, first of all, who did
I trick to get in here? I feel like, I mean,
I don't even know how we're like in there with
these people. But with that being said, the expansion started
to expand. My stress started to expand, just like a
little bit of me feeling like what did I do?
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Do you follow Huberman Lab? Do you follow Huberman Lab?
Do you know who that is?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I had Instagram, so he posted this thing that I
thought was so helpful where he said, if you want
to actually expand your stress response, that's like why cold
plunging is good. When you get into a stressful situation
and you can keep your eyes on one thing, that's
when you actually expand, You expand when you're in a
hard thing and you do it and you can keep
your mind focused. And so I think this season for
me has been expansion of Okay, we're in now this
(11:51):
new hard situation that's so fun and the hardest thing
I've ever done. And to do that and to feel
that pain, to feel that pressure and that like pulling
in that expansion, but keeping your eyes on the prize
and keeping your eyes on like why you're doing what
you're doing has really expanded me as a person, if
that makes sense, and expanded my capacity for pain and
for joy and for things that I didn't think were possible.
(12:13):
So that's why I think it means so much to
be right now.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Have you actually physically cold plunged.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
No, I have not cold plunged. So you know we
have in the garage.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
You need to go out there right now.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I have to leave right after this.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Yeah, No, I was like, shoot, we should have like
made that part of.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Get in there.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I do think that, yeah, there's a challenge there, and
I like that analogy and when it comes to making
space for it, like what advice do you have for
people from what you've experienced, not just in like focusing
and keeping on the one thing, but like in your expansion, Like,
what does it felt like for you to be able
to expand and open yourself up to all these different possibilities?
(12:50):
And then what advice do you have for people that
are like, well, yeah, that's great. If someone's telling you,
you know, your product not a brand, it's very scary
to launch into all of that. So what advice do
you ever people that maybe need to take that next
step to grow and maybe it's not a business, that
could be in anything, putting themselves out there, getting on
a dating app, whatever it is that they maybe need
to take the next step to do, Like you just.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Dive right down, I would say, first of all, just
go for it, just try it, Like things usually go
better than you think, Like again, but what if it
goes well? That's like on half our products now because
like but truly, like what if it did go well?
You never know till you try. So I'm a big
proponent of just trying and then from there know your
why because I think when things get hard, your why
connects you to your purpose and that's going to help
(13:34):
you on the hard times. And so as I've been
like this, you know, experiencing these growing pains which have
felt very painful, that why and feeling that purpose of
you know what, this.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Feels crazy or like what did I do?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
But I'm like, no, I believe I'm called to bring
joy and to bring this product, and this feels like
what the Lord has called me to and so that
why really helps ground you when you want to bolt,
you know, And I think I never want to knock
anybody on social media, but I feel like in this
culture where it's like it just feels like I go online.
This might just be me and it's my own issue
(14:05):
for comparing. But when it feels like this culture of like, oh,
here's how I make seven figures while I make machas
and homeschool my kids, and I'm just like, that is
not my story. That literally could not feel further from
the truth for me. And so I think just to
feel like for encouragement for someone, it's okay if it
feels hard, and that like pain and purpose are not separate,
and that like I think for me, I like ease.
I always want something to be the easiest and the
(14:26):
most fun. And so in this season it's been like, no,
I feel pain and this feels hard. I feel a
lot of growing pains, but you want the garden, but
you don't want to pull the weeds, you know, So
just being willing to dive in and like really plug
into what you're called to and just that like it's
okay if it feels hard right now, and it's okay
if starting something is not just this linear path to
like all this money and free time, And does that
make sense?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Like yeah no? And I love that saying like if
you know you want the garden, but you don't want
to pull the weeds, and you have to get on
there your hands sturdy? Is that part of a song.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
He wrote that song that was his idea that wasn't mine.
I took it from him.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Well, I think it's a beautiful way to put it
because it's so true. Sometimes you just want to like
skip to the good part. But then we miss out
on some of the expansion. We miss out on the growth,
we miss out on the development.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Like that's how we be who you're becoming, who you're becoming.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
We are in the different challenges and what does this
make possible for us? And then where's it going to
take us next? And even when we hit certain obstacles,
knowing that like okay, well maybe this isn't the way,
but supposed to pivot and go this way. And you've
been great at pivoting and also taking feedback and then
making decisions from there. And one of the decisions you
had to make was taking out the helock to make
(15:33):
this expansion possible. And I know that that's been a
huge thing for you of like, oh, but I love
that you're very clear about Okay, I'm not going to
get focused on that. That's not my identity. This part
of it doesn't define me and who I am. And
I think sometimes we get wrapped up in some of
our stuff that feels overwhelming at the time. Yes, and
(15:53):
I speak as someone has a he lock too. It's
like or any kind of debt that you may be
or whatever circumstance where there's a lot of pressure. It's like, okay,
this is here, We'll get through this. But this right
here doesn't define me.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Absolutely. Yeah. We had a moment.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
It was last month, So this is all very raw,
but you know, I like talking about it in real
time because that's just that's life, you know. But there
was a moment last month where I just it was
feeling heavy, The helock was feeling heavy. I'm like, I
have taken this very big risk.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Which I'm so happy to do, but it affects my family,
you know, it affects all of us. It affects what we're.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Able to do, and it affects It's just a big
decision that we did not take lightly.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
But it was starting to feel a little bit heavy
where I'm just like, okay, the only way I just threw.
But we're in.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
And one morning I was sitting there breakfast, I just
felt this weight on me and Steve just looked at me.
He said, you know, the helock, it's not who you are.
The loan is not who you are. You really need
to remember that. And I instantly, like I felt like
my breath entered my body again, Like I felt this
just instant release of you know what, You're right, Like,
I'm putting so much identity on my business and I
(16:56):
do that for better or for worse. It's like, I
love being oh entrepreneur, It's so fun, and I love
other women in business, and I love being a mom
all the things. It's like, it's so easy to equate
what you do with who you are, and I just didn't.
I honestly didn't realize how much I was doing that.
And I think that's why the helock was feeling so heavy,
because it felt like, well, if I was like a
great business owner, I would have already figured out to
(17:16):
be profitable when I would have already figured out X,
y Z. So then you start to be like, well,
am I even that good at this? And well now
we're in it, you know, and just so many like
first of all lies and then ties that just weren't
they're not meant to be there, you know. And so
when he said that, I literally just felt this giant
release of like, oh, you're right, it's not who I am.
And if this thing goes a hell in the handbasket tomorrow,
I am loved. I'm worthy, I'm brave for trying this,
(17:39):
And I hope inspires for people to try something themselves,
you know, and just like to be a little bit
less tied to the outcome, even though I still hope
the outcomes good, you know, I still hope we can
grow and do all the things. But that was like
a really helpful lesson for me of like, oh, wow,
I have way too much identity tied up in this.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, and well I do think that like you mentioned earlier.
Social media can make it hard when sometimes you're seeing
the highlight reel of people and you're seeing some of
the success in business and they're doing all the things,
but you also don't have the full picture. You don't
know what it took to get there. And maybe it
did work out for them in a snap of a
finger like that. But everybody's story is different. And I
(18:15):
like that you're sharing the honest side in the You're
in the middle of it, you're in the thick of it,
You're you're pulling the weeds, and it doesn't define you.
I like that you said that, or that Steve said
that to you, and now because even your business like
emergency Confetti doesn't define you at all, Like you're so
much more than that, and you did we had to
do to expand the business, and I think it's going
(18:37):
to pay off for you for sure.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I hope.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
So.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yeah, And I think that listened back to this podcast
of years from now and be like either this way
or this way, we're gon, We're help.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
It's good.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah. I think expansion. I like that word, and you've
expanded in so many different ways and now this is
something that doesn't define you. You know that reminds me
of the saying of the data versus the drama, because
I think sometimes we get wrapped up in the drama
of something when really, if you just look at the facts,
it's like, Okay, I have a business. I wanted to
expand it. Therefore I needed to take out a loan.
(19:06):
I'm expanding my business. This is part of the process.
It's like the data. It's not the drama of Oh,
I took out this loan and I haven't been able
to pay it back yet, and now I'm a failure.
You know, that's the drama. Yes, sometimes we have to
present it as the data and then also have the
reminder like Steve was telling you, and have good people
that are in your life that will look at you
(19:28):
and say like they'll let you kind of say process
and say what you need to say, but then they're
going to look you in the face and be like
that that doesn't define you. By the way, remember that
I love them. And you mentioned joy earlier and that
you feel as though the Lords, through emergency Confetti, has
called you to spread that joy. And I think an
interesting conversation at times is how people define joy versus
(19:51):
happiness because I do think that emergency fetti can bring
a lot of momentary happiness, like you and I both
for example, at the beginning of the year, well, I
guess it was the end end of twenty twenty three.
We went to dinner and it was the new year
was starting, and we were like, we're not going to
shop as much this year, and I think I was like,
You're like, I'm going to try for the month of January,
and I said, I think I'm gonna go all year.
(20:12):
And for me, sometimes I would get this temporary happiness
from shopping, like I get this whatever, probably dope Mainus
released or something. I think maybe when you click purchase
and something's righting, But then I've uned up all with
all this stuff and there's not happiness there where joy
is ever lasting, like it's something inside of us, it's
not coming from the outside. So for you, what is
(20:34):
your hope for emergency confetti and spreading joy to others
in that way to where it's more lasting.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yes, something I've been thinking about this year a lot
is like that happiness is fleeting and that it just
feels very weighed in by your circumstances, and that joy
is gritty, And I think what I've learned in this
season is that joy will sit down next to pain,
and Joy's okay with pain, and joy can say hey,
like you're here for a while, you know, and making
peace with it a little bit. And so I think
that that's my thought on joy is that, you know,
(21:02):
and in the season, even though it's been painful, it's
also been had been some of the moments of deepest
joy of just like making those changes and believing we're
doing something for my family and just those little things
with my kids, like just a hug from them where
I'm like, if this literally closed tomorrow, i am so blessed,
I am so rich in the things that matter.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
And that's joy.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Joy is like seeing what's right in front of you
and just like gratitude and all those things. And so
this year, like you're saying, we cut out shopping, which
are you still doing that? So this year, like you're saying,
we cut out shopping, which are you still doing that?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Well, so mine is I've got Poshmark stuff and if
I sell a certain dollar amount, then I can get
that dollar amount. So yes, I've made some purchases, but
it's not near probably what I would have at this point,
being towards the end of April. Yep, I probably would
have purchased more. And I have iHeart Country Fest coming
up at the first of May, and I went shopping
(22:02):
in my closet. Normally I always go buy a new outfit.
Now there's still time shop.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yes, I might change my mind, but.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I so far right now have an outfit that I
picked out from my closet that I've worn to previous
things years ago. So you know, good for you. But
it's challenged me to think in a different way. Yes,
and it's like that will also bring me. Sure that
might be temporary happiness, but also there is a certain
amount of joy of like I'm proud of myself, like
this isn't You're digging in as hard as I thought
it was going to be. But then it also is
(22:33):
like do clothes really matter? Why do we put something
on this Like nobody's remembering we're the ones that care
the most. And then I feel like I'm focused on
the wrong things instead of just showing up and doing
my job. Although there is the Dione Sanders saying, if
you look good, you feel good. If you feel good,
you play good. If you play good, they pay good.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Ooh.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
So maybe that's me but justifying wanting to buy something
so that I look good, feel good, and do better
at job. But I picked out something from my closet,
and I think it's only because we made that challenge.
And I do think that that challenge has helped me,
you know, tap into more joy and not seek just
instant gratification for little happiness, spark here and then come
(23:15):
right back down totally.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, we have made some big changes this year.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
So I did the shopping challenge with you, which I
said January and then went into February and then the
only thing I really bought was one swimsuit, but I
did Amazon returns to get it, so I was like,
I did not spend anything extra. I put stuff on
Poshmark that did not go as well for me. Maybe
my stuff's just not that cool or maybe I don't know.
It was a fair of shoes and maybe my foot's bigger.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I don't know. I was like, no one wants to
buy it, so whatever, I haven't made any money from that.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
So when Georgia camer was on the podcast, he was
talking about how his wife uses thread up, which is
like an online thrift situation or consignment there you go
consignment maybe where you put it in the box. I
just sent a box off after he recommended it, but
I haven't experienced the whole process other than boxing, the
close up and shipping it off.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
So you do altogether one thing.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, there's certain requirements for the clothes and as long
as they check the box and you can put them
in and then you decide what you're going to do
with them. If they're unable to sell them, then you
need to decide. I guess if you want them donated
and they'll do that for you, okay, or if you
want to pay it like I guess, have them sent
back to you or something.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I love that versus having to ship out each individual one.
I might have to try that anyway. But yeah, So
this year I stopped shopping, Steve has stopped drinking or
for the most part, and not because either of us
felt like we were out of control in either way,
but just trying to do something different this year, like
what would it look like to really cut down and
like you said on the things that I think give
you that quick dopamine hit, but we really want this
(24:41):
year to look different when you were trying to do
things different for our family, we're trying to grow businesses
and we're trying to be creative and we're trying to
be present and show up, and so we're just like,
is there anything in the way or is there anything
that we could improve. Steve has started doing his sauna
cold plunch, well not cold plunch, but cold shower. He's
kind of in that era too. I have not started that,
but we're just trying to do things different this year.
And it's been interesting because it almost was like there
(25:01):
was a little withdrawal, you know, there's that maybe added
to howl. Last month was just so hard where you're like,
you know, it's so much easier if you're shopping and
traveling and doing all these things that just feel exciting
and like give you that temporary like amazing, this is
so fun.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
But also your seven on the Enneagram, so I feel
like you're always chasing fun.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I'm always chasing fun.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
But I think that's the difference right now is I'm like, Okay,
that doesn't lead anywhere. You know, happiness is great, and
I love happiness. I love being happy, you know, I
love fun, I love parties, I love celebration and when
all that's gone, or if all that's gone, like joy
is what sticks around and joy is what's not defined
by those things. And so now I'm like, Okay, Joy's
(25:39):
what we're going after. You know, I feel joy's really
the goal.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Yeah, I think that's where pimp and joy came from.
With my mom, it wasn't like she was just like,
oh I have cancer, yay spread joy. For her, it
was deeply rooted in her faith and Neamiah eight ten,
the joy of the Lord is my strength. And so
it's like that's where really was coming from. And there
was absolutely hard days and it didn't ignore that. And
(26:03):
we were in the hard days, we tried to acknowledge
them because I think you have to. It'll just help
you process it better. But she knew where the long
lasting inner joy was coming from and how she had
the strength to even have joy during such a trying,
difficult season, and so for her, so neam My eight
ten for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
And as a seven, I think pain feels like scary.
I feel like I've just spent a lot of my
life and a lot of energy trying to avoid pain
and trying to avoid hard things and just going towards ease.
And I think that's part of the expansion as a person,
is just saying, you know what, this eff is in
vain to ignore pain or not have pain. That's just
that's not gonna happen. It's a fool's Errand so what
(26:43):
does it look like to be like pain is going
to happen. Hard things are going to happen, not to
expect them, to expect good things, but to know that
they're going to happen, and to know that joy exists
in all seasons here as available.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Joy can be alongside, it's alongside the pain. You're often
not happy when in pain, yep, but you can have
joy when you're in pain. And that's such a good
reminder that they can.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
They can co exist, will exists together.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Okay, Yeah, I hadn't really ever broken down like yeo.
When you're really going through something hard, you're typically not happy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, you don't have to be happy about it, but
it's different.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah. And you even have these new mugs with sayings
on them, and what's on yours over there?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Okay, mind says celebrate the little things.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Celebrate the little Okay. I thought I was to say,
does that say, expect the good things.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Well, we do have one that says, but what if
it goes well? And then your says, when you focus
on the.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Good, the good gets better.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, that's so cute. And so this is part of
the expansion.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
This is part of the expansion.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
So this is part of the helock.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
This is the healock. You're drinking my heelock cup.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Oh so this ooh alone tastes good.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Oh, taste like money. I love a good. Yes.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
But it's funny because these products. I'll look at it
and I'm like, every day I feel like I need
these sayings. So they are all over my house, so
I'll just look at it and they're great. Celebrate the
little things. It's a reminder. What if it goes well?
It's a reminder. And I truly feel like my personal
journey through this company is marked by these things. So
I am glad to put them out in the world
and hope it encourage somebody else to like folks on
the good, you know, just those little things.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
What else did you end up getting with the heck?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
What else? Make he lock?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Tell us more?
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Okay, Well, we have stationary journals, we have little mini cards,
We have party packs that are like ten packs of
confetti that are designed for like sports teams, you know, graduation, wedding,
great graduation, pross.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah, weddings, back to school. So we have those, and
then we're also launching barwear next month.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
When you say barwear, like my brain instilly thinks of
like a protein bar, but it's not oh oh okay
and not like stuff you wear when you're eating a bar.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I love that you said, though, let's clarify. It's champagne glasses,
coop glasses that say.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Fun like celebratory things like wohoo are yay? So everything
was made to be able to layer together, so like
for different good news occasions. So if someone gets engaged,
we'll have a champagne from miss to missus champagne flute
that can pair with our bridal confetti, could pair with
a bridal journal. So it's all things that you could
like layer when someone has good news in their life.
So you know, for the mug, this might be for
someone who's waiting on good news, you know, And I
(29:07):
think that's part of the joy is like maybe bringing
joy to someone is when they're in pain. It's not
necessarily Goodness's happened, but maybe it's on the way, maybe
it's coming, and maybe your jobs to speak that into them,
you know. So it's kind of both the end.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
It's like Dolly Parton's quote of like you have to
get through the rain to the storm to see the rainbow.
I love raising it.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yes, that's something like that.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I'm sure Dolly put it, and I'm more concise better way.
But there's a puzz. I had a puzzle. I put
together a doll puzzle.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
You did, I mean, gave you puzzle. You can't see
the rainbow without the rain or.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
If you want to get to the rainbow, you got
to get through the rain. But yeah, thank you for
that Dolly puzzle. Which I think puzzles can be very
therapeutic and something that are this is really good for
your brain in a lot of ways, as is gratitude,
which is why we try to practice that. And so
I thought we could do four things gratitude here as well,
(29:57):
but very specific four things gratitude with you sharing the
first thing being a book that you're thankful for, and
then maybe a show, movie, documentary, and then a food
or a drink okay, and then an Instagram follow So
those four things.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Okay, let's think, Okay, book I just finished one called
friend Zone by Abby Jiminez. I actually brought it if
you want it, because I'm always like, why not pass passive?
Speaker 2 (30:21):
All, Oh, are you already done reading it?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
You're done?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Night, But I'll take it.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I brought it for you. It's my purse.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
But I love just like a you know, just like
a lighthearted rom com, you know, like after work. Sometimes
this really hard for me to shut my brain off,
and so it's just been a gift for me to
have like a lighthearted like no screen, just sit down.
But it also feels like fun and I like storytelling.
So so friend Zone is the briend Zone is the book.
I thought it was cute, so show this is kind
of funny, but I feel like it would be full swing.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
The Golf documentary. Have you seen that?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Okay, So I've watched a little bit and I through it,
I learned the difference between the PGA and.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
That's drama, you go. I am thankful for that show
because normally Steve will not sit down and watch a
show with me. He is not a show person. But
I love that, like I love that bonding time and
he will watch Full Swing. So I'm grateful for that
right now because it's just something fun we can do together.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Do golf at all. I like to drive the golf
cart class of wine.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
So I went to the driving range with Therapy Cat
and her husband and it's fun. Ok with, like, we
should all go or if Steve and Big P that's her.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Husband, let's do that. Our next hang is at the
golf course. Okay, we're gonna find you a man there,
I'll go.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I'm into that idea.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Okay, well, so shout out to Full Swings for making
a documentary about golf. That's entertaining because I don't really
care much about golf, but I was entertained by it. Yeah.
In fact, I'll revisit it just to learn more. It's
good to kind of understand what's going on in the
midst of your dreams.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
You're so informed.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, I feel like and he's like.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Wow, this is this girl is a unicorn. How does
she know all this?
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah, yes, the unicorn. I feel like I feel like
a lot of people might know.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
I'm not special, But well, what about the third thing,
which would be a food or drink?
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Have you ever been to the Flower Kitchen near Urban
Market in Franklin.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
No, but I love Urban Market.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Okay, so it's right next to there.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
But they have this amazing turmeric latte has oat milk
and it's just been like a calming. I guess it's
about to not be seasoned because it's getting hot out,
but it's like turmeric and cinnamon and oat milk and
it has just been like, my jam give me a
lot of joy.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
I'm not a big into the turmeric in my coffee
because I feel like it tastes very earthy.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, it's kind of earthy.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
This doesn't have coffee in it, though I'm not I
can't really do much coffee, I think kind of it's true.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Well, I used to be big into mass too, and
I don't know why because now I tried to drink
Amascha the other day and I was like, this is
like it's earthy.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
It's real earthy dirt and tastes like dirt, like I.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Like turmeric on like this. There's a curry turmeric sweet
potato recipe that Kimberly Snyder has. Google it if you
want to make it.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
It's so good.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
There's not that any ingredients Actually it's like dice, sweet potatoes,
coconut oil, sea salt, turmeric and curry.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Really good.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Love that, but turmeric in my drink latte. But I
know a lot of people like it, so it's it's
probably good anti inflammatory free as well. It's a good recommendation.
And that's the thing with four things gratitude and sharing
it in this way is it's like people get an
idea of a book to read or a show to watch,
or a drink to try or something like that, and
I feel like you always know, like a yummy if
(33:17):
you had a food one, like a good gluten free
snack situation. There's some pretzel brand, the flat pretzels that
are like pretzels with their squished down flat. They're like
Party Time or maybe I just bought the party size.
I don't.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I don't know if I know those, but send them
to me.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Are the gluten free Pretzel Time?
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Well I did not know this brand, Like we my
kids like the one in the big blue bag and
we're not totally gluten free. But I was talking to
a therapist about just potentially stuff that could be disruptive
to their brains when learning if they were to maybe
have an allergy to it. We were talking about even
like red dyes and how that affects kids and their
(33:56):
behavior and their ability to concentrate. So I was like,
well it care or to just try to maybe look
for some gluten free stuff just in case. And I
saw that they had those pretzels in gluten free. And
here's the thing. Sometimes the gluten free version of something
is worse and you don't like it. In this case,
there's something about the texture and flavor of the gluten
(34:17):
free version of this that I now know is available,
and it's in a white bag and it's one of
the best. Like, hey, it's one of the best. Well,
there's some in the kitchen. I'll send you home with
something I did one time Steve was wanting to try,
or you said Steve was drinking protein protein a lot
of protein shakes, and I'm like, oh, you need to
give him this Flave City see if he likes it.
(34:38):
And you're like, oh, you liked it. I'm saying home
with a bag.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
I usually leave your house with some sample of some sort,
the ag one which I do love, love with that,
the Flave citylaz yeah powder.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
So maybe today's pretzels.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yeah, I'll send you home with some pretzels.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
So the final and fourth thing that you're thankful for
would be an Instagram follow Hm.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
I feel like I've been enjoying, which is a little niche.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
It's not for everybody, but if anyone starting a business,
specifically in the wholesale world, there's an Instagram called proof
to Product and it's just really helpful practical ways to
kind of navigate the market and people who are doing
it in their stories and that's just been really fun
to listen to and encouraging to me as I'm navigating
a new business.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Yeah. Well, I feel like a lot of this conversation
has been encouraging for anybody that might be navigating so
a new business and what they're starting. And I think
that one thing that I see that you could do
because you're so good at it, because I'm watching you
do it now, is my challenge to you would be
just like you're seeing some of these accounts on Instagram
that maybe sometimes maybe make you feel like you're not
(35:41):
doing enough or you're not doing it right, because if
you're doing it right, things will be going a different way.
But like your business is still new and it's growing,
but I would encourage you to share more behind the
scenes of what's going on, and I know that adds
another thing to your plate. And social media is like, ugh,
it's like the last thing you probably want to get
(36:01):
to when you're navigating all the different things as a mom,
a wife, a business owner, but just from time to time, so.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Love these things. I think you received.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
You can share some of the nuggets and the real
life stuff that you're going through with that, and I
think it'll just be comforting to others and it'll be
real and raw and people will be like, oh, you know,
grateful for it, like, oh, thank you Gracie for showing me,
because I guarantee you somewhere out there someone needs to
see it or hear it, and hopefully they're hearing it now.
(36:28):
But you've on Instagram. That's where a lot of us
end up and we're kind of scrolling through, like, is
anybody feeling like me? Yes?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
And I love branding, so it's easy to make it
look like oh, they're just killing it, you know, and
it's like it's so fun and it's hard. It's so hard,
you know, and just I need to figure out the balance.
Of that because I am really happy to share about
it and want people to know, like we're all in
this together.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah I think you should. So where can people find
you on social?
Speaker 3 (36:53):
I'm at Gracie Moechler and then at Emergency Confetti is
my business, and.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
You're branding for Emergency Confetti is so good.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I'm obsessed with that. You've worked so hard on it.
And we were joking before we hit record, We're like, yeah,
Gracie's founder, CEO, CFO, chief marketing, chief, chief, all the
she wears all the hats. But that's what it is,
being a small business owners killing it. Okay, Well, cheers, friend,
love you, thanks
Speaker 1 (37:19):
For having me
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