June 4, 2024 • 28 mins
"When you're meeting someone for the first time, you're not meeting them, you're meeting their representative." - Chris Rock
Bonus Quote!
“To succeed in life, you need three Things: A Wishbone. A Back Bone, and a Funny Bone" - Reba McEntire
Amy & Kat chat about:
- A listener email talking about last weeks episode with Steven from Home Street Home (Linked Blow!)
- The Four Gut Instincts You Should Not Ignore!
- Amy's thinking about trying a new form of therapy
- A listener email asking about what Cozy Earth Sheet's that Amy and Kat like most (Spoiler Alert: They're both amazing!)
Episodes that have come out recently that Amy talked about at the end:
Episode #563: Steven Young from Home Street Home
Other episodes with Steven Young are #96 and #256!
Visit Blake's Instagram (Super_blake) for the bracelets that Amy talked about!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Amy and I'm Kat And today's quote is from
Chris Rock. When you meet someone for the first time,
you're not meeting them, you're meeting their representative.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
That's a good one, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
It's like you're meeting the version of them that they
want you to see.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
And I guess for every single person on this entire planet,
it is a different amount of time to start peeling
back the layers of who they really are.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Sometimes I peel them back a little too quick with people,
and I'm like, why did I just say all of that.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Your representative isn't as strong, I guess.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
And then other times I have a wall up big
time and I have on avasade and I'm like being
a chameleon trying to fit in, and I just want
people to like me. I want to belong, so I
try by fitting in. But there's a difference, as we know,
thanks Brene Brown.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
And I also think that's one of the reasons I
had a for myself where unless there was like something
very very off putting when I was dating, I always
gave somebody like a second chance, like a second date,
because you're not really getting to know them, You're getting
to know a version of them, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Or even yeah with friendships, yeah, a business relationship, something
like that.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I just think it's Yeah, it's a good one to
keep in mind.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
So nice little quote there from Chris Rock which makes
me thinks so funny things. And there was this rebook
quote I came across too, so I'll just throw that
one out there, and she was like, everyone needs three
kind of bones. I'm paraphrasing here real quick, but she
basically said everybody needs a wishbone, a backbone, and a
funny bone.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
That sounds like a Reeba McIntyre quote.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I have an email from Alison, so I'm gonna start
with this and then Kat's gonna go over some fun
stuff with us, and she's gonna be leading me because
before we got on, I'm just having one of those
days where I don't know, my brain is all over
the place and I'm doing my breath work and I'm
staying calm. I just have not been well. And I
(02:06):
told her that I want to what I say exactly
like punch the wall or throw something into.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
The wall, but your fist through the wall.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, that would feel so good right now?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
A break.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
No, I'm going to read you this email. That's what
I'm gonna do because the email made me feel real good.
This is a warm email, whatever a war email is, okay.
Hi Amy, I just started listening to your podcast this
year and I am so grateful for it. The latest
one with Stephen from Home Street Home pulled on my heartstrings.
After listening to all three of the podcasts that he
(02:43):
was on and crying through most of them, I decided
to take action That day. I went out and bought
most everything he mentioned on the list of summer needs
for homeless friends. My daughters and I spent the afternoon
decorating the bags with phrases like you are loved and
you matter.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
They helped me fill the bag and.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
We're going to be giving them out this weekend in Portland, Maine,
the closest big city to where we live, and we're
also going to keep some in the car. Thank you
and Steven for reminding me always to be grateful, that
a smile can change someone's day, and that even small
gestures can make a big difference. Allison and I have
(03:21):
copied and pasted this email to Stephen via text, and Alison,
thank you so much for sharing this. And if you're
just listening to this Fit thing and you didn't hear
Stephen on last Thursday's Four Things episode. His name is
Stephen Young, and he's the founder of Home Street Home,
which is a homeless ministry here in Nashville, And it
was his third time on my podcast. He was on
way back in twenty nineteen, then again in twenty twenty one,
(03:44):
and then now this year in twenty twenty four, and
each time we've gone a little bit different. Some of
his backstory he gives. It's just fascinating. But I did
encourage you, if you're not familiar, go listen to each episode.
And it's so special that Allison did because Stephen's story
it's such a beautiful story of redemption and I just
adore him and the work that he's doing. And I
(04:06):
believe this week maybe Gracie Moekler is another friend of mine.
Her husband, Steve Mochler, is a singer songwriter, and last
year they started doing a benefit for Home Street Home
and they're doing another one this year in August, and
I believe it's going to get announced this week or next,
so I will keep y'all posted on that but if
you're in Nashville or you want to plan a trip
to Nashville, it's going to be a special night to
(04:27):
benefit them. But the fact that Allison and I'm sure
others just took time to be invested in his story
and the difference that he's making means a lot. And
that you involved your children in this. It's so beautiful.
I know as a mom what it meant for me
for to share to say, Hey, I want to go
serve the homeless for my seventeenth birthday. I will admit
also as a mom of a teenager, I was a
(04:47):
little bit like, this is really sweet, but what's up?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
That's your representative, Yes, what's going on here?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
But she went and she did it, and she served
and she asked questions and it was genuine. And as
a mom, our son went as well, and one of
my daughter's best friends went and it was beautiful to see.
And I just appreciate y' all listening. So that's an
email about the episode with Steven. People can check it out.
And now, Kat, my heart is warm, but I'm still
going to hand it over to you for some of
(05:15):
the other things that we're going to talk about.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I was gonna say, if you were going to define
a warm email, that would be it like an email
that makes you feel like you're getting a hug, Right,
That's what that is.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, and hopefully it's an email that it's sort of
one of those things that keeps on giving. Because Stephen
came on and shared his story. She did something and
then she sends that email, and someone simply hearing that
email it might encourage them to go do something. So ooh,
it's getting warm everywhere.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Kat is on Zoom right now, and it's such a
bummer because I was the one not feeling well, so
she didn't come over to record, but not because I
was scared I was going to like throw her through
the wall or something. But it was more so because
I had a fever earlier and I've just been hot
and I don't feel right, like something's going on. But
I am sad because on Zoom, your laugh is lost.
(06:09):
It doesn't come through the It's like Zoom's like this
is too loud. I don't know what to do because
i'd see you laughing hysterically, but I don't hear anything.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Zoom literally is like this is too loud.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
We have to shut it off.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I just wish people could see it, or Houston kind
of like, you know, capture your laugh somewhere and like
hilariously insert it and it'll be like our little inside
joke right now. Hey, Houston, can you just please insert
Kat's laugh where it's awkwardly silent, because it's like you're
dying laughing and I see it, and I love your
laugh and it makes me laugh more, which makes listeners laugh,
(06:45):
and we all have to have a funny bone. Apparently,
I want people to hear your laughter because it's contagious.
But AnyWho, let's move on.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Side note. I don't know why that's name me think
of that. I watched Baby Reindeer this weekend.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
You've yeah, it's definitely not funny. Well, it's not funny.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I guess what I thought of is it was one
of the hard The whole thing was pretty hard to watch,
but one of the things that was the hardest to
watch is when the guy was doing comedy and nobody
was laughing.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
First of all, I didn't finish it, full disclosure, but
I did watch about three or maybe I did. It's
one of those I don't want to even remember that
I watched it, like that's how awful I felt. But
I know I watched a lot of it, but I
don't think I finished it, and if I did, I
blocked it out.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Okay, then we'll move on. I will say, not a
show I would necessarily recommend I did. I didn't watch
the last episode because I was like, okay, we get
it anyway. What I do want to share is this
comes from House of Investors on Instagram, and it's four
gut instincts you should not ignore. So I'm going to
read them, and you're gonna tell me if you ignore
those or if you pay attention to them. Number one,
(07:53):
excitement about an opportunity. Excitement is your intuition's way of
saying that something about that opportunity is reading with your soul.
Don't allow your logical mind to talk you out of
something you deeply feel is aligned for you, So.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Pay attention to excitement.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I guess sometimes I'm like, I have to like sit
with am I feeling like nervous?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Good? Am I feeling nervous?
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Bad?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Am I feeling excited? Good?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Sometimes it's determining whatever my gut's trying to tell me.
But I guess that's when journaling can come in handy.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, I think that this one is pretty important because
the part where it says, don't allow your logical mind
to talk you out of something that you feel is
deeply aligned with you. A lot of times when I
feel excitement about certain opportunities, my logical mind will say
things like, oh, you couldn't do that, or like that
would be a lot of work, or are you sure
when it's trying to like protect me. That logical mind
(08:44):
is trying to protect me from getting hurt or my
I don't know, somebody not liking something I do, or
maybe even failing at something. But that's also taking away
opportunities that I would really appreciate. So logical mind, it's tricky.
Number two. A feeling of danger Number two. A feeling
(09:14):
of danger when you get a feeling something is off
and you feel an immense sense of nervousness, take it seriously.
Better safe than sorry.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Okay, So here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
The other night, I was like, I don't think I
locked on my doors, and I know that I did,
and I set my alarm. I do that every night,
but something about me just was like, why do I
have this feeling I'm not paying attention to something. And
sure enough I went around and I locked all the doors,
I set my alarm, I did everything I was supposed
to do. I was almost asleep, and then I had
(09:47):
this instant feeling something was off. So I got up,
turned off my alarm, went and checked like everything because
I had to open my door to look at my garage,
and sure enough, I left one of my garage doors open.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
No way.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah, in the pro of shutting my entire house down,
setting the alarm, everything I normally do, and I could
have easily slept through it, which if someone would have
gotten into my garage, like they wouldn't have been able
to get into my house. My house is locked, my
alarm is on, there's nothing happening, but I mean they
could have taken my new shovel.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
But also, even when you have an alarm, I will
say that it still takes time for the people to
realize that it's an actual emergency and then for people
to actually show up.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
So oh, well, my people, they show up fast because
one time, oh really, my tash, because I think I
live near to like wherever local response places. Well, because
first responders can come from you know, police departments, or
little hubs or like where police tend to hang out
a lot fire station like a hospital, And I am
(10:51):
so terrified to be late to the Bobby Bone show
because if we're late, Bobby sends us home like thirty
seconds late. Oh no, hey, yeah, because you're not just
letting yourself down and let everybody else down, So like
you need to learn. And honestly, I was late one
time and I got sent home and I have not been.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Late since, so it does work. That was years ago.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
But I forgot to turn my alarm off while I
was getting ready and doing all my things, and I
was already running behind, and I could not get it
to shut off. Like I opened the door, and I'm like,
it starts worm boom, like it's slow, and then it
starts amping up, and I'm like, if I stay here
to figure this out, like I don't know what's going on,
but if I stay here, I'm going to be late
to work.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
And I was in fight flight.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Fortunately I didn't freeze, so that way I could just
calmly eventually snap out of it and handle it and
I would be here. But I got my car and
I bolted to work, and my alarm company called me,
and I don't know. I guess I was too busy
trying to figure something else out. I didn't say it's okay,
and the police showed up like pretty rapidly after it
(11:54):
went off, and I had to then explain when I
did answer, sorry, I was gonna be late for work.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
And if I'm late for I'm sent home.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
They're like, uh, we don't care.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
And they're like, how old are you?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yes, officer, I am forty two years old.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Was anybody else at your house?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, my children.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
The police show up to a house that's alarm is
going off with two children inside. Oh fine, no big deal.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah. Not my proudest moment, but that is a perfect
example of when you go into survival mode, you aren't
making rational decisions. And my children were not in danger.
I do believe I can go into survival mode, and
if my children are in danger, I would make different decisions.
But nobody was in danger, and I knew it was
all going to get ironed out. But I don't want
(12:41):
to waste people's time. I don't want to waste the
city's time.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
But I guess I thought I would have it all
figured out before the police arrived, but they got here
so fast, is my point.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I didn't have that same experience when my alarm went off,
so I'm glad sometimes they show up.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Best listen to that gut feeling of danger and not
that my garage door being open danger. But I just
somehow before my body would shut down, like I had
some like thing that was like, go take care of yourself.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Yeah, and I feel like that happens a lot of
times too, with like unplugging the curly and iron stuff
like that, where it probably won't do anything if you
did leave it on, but it's better safe than sorry,
so you might as well turn it off. Which there's
a podcaster. Her name's Kate Kennedy. She has to be
there on five podcast. The way she even blew up
is because she started making doormats that said turn off
(13:31):
your straightener and turn off your curly and Iron. So
when you left, you remembered I.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Love Kate Kennedy.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
That's good and just such a good reminder of like
your crazy ideas, like you never know, you throw something
up on Etsy or throw something online, and next thing
you know, it changed her life.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yeah, changed her life waiting for that to happen to
me one day. I had an Etsy shop one time.
I didn't ever post anything on.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
It, though with your jewelry.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Back when I had a jewelry business, I think I
posted like one bracelet up there, and then I was like,
this is a lot of work, so I gave it
up anyway. Number three, being drawn to someone. We are
always drawn to people for a reason. It means their
presence serves a divine purpose. Even if it's only a
brief encounter or a temporary relationship, there's a reason the
universe wants you to collide. I have mixed feelings on this.
(14:19):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Okay, Well, since you talked about jewelry and bracelets and
being drawn to something, I want to mention super Blake.
The Instagram handle is at super underscore Blake and he's
this adorable little kid that is selling these precious bracelets
that he makes because he is trying to go to Disney,
so he's selling the bracelets and saving up. And the
(14:41):
bracelets also serve as anti bully messages because he has
been bullied a lot. Check out his page you can
learn everything there. I ordered three bracelets. They're so cute
and they've got different colored beads. He has a few
different sayings that you can choose from, and I chose
be nice man. And I was drawn to his Instagram
(15:02):
page when I saw someone repost him. So I'm glad
I paid attention to that nudge to go click on
his page because I had never heard of him before,
and it's just really cute. And I got my bracelets
and I love them, so carry on.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Well one, I'm glad that his joy business is more
successful than mine was, although I did get into some festivals.
I got a booth that Tomato Fest in East Nashville,
which is a big deal in the craft world. But
being drawn to someone, I have mixed feelings on this
because every time we're drawn to someone, that doesn't mean
(15:37):
we necessarily need to lean into that desire. Yes, you
have your hand up.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, I have a hand up, teacher, Miss Stafauda, is
it because sometimes people can have riz? Excuse me, oh, Mistefauda,
do you not know what riz is?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I have no idea. Is this like a new.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
That's what the young people refer to as charisma?
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Wait, I feel like somebody was was it you that
was telling me about this? Now? This is coming back,
But that's what we call it.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Maybe we might even have gone over a list of
words from the Young'in's on the fifth thing like quizzing
to see if you know them. I don't know, but
RIZ is charisma, and I assume that sometimes we're drawn
to someone because they are charismatic, and it might actually
be a representative and not really them exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
I can't wait for you to use riz in a
serious sentence one day.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I don't think I ever could. But that's why I
had to act like a child, and you were my teacher.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah. I think a lot of times we're drawn to
also unhealthy parts of our own stuff, Right like if
I'm drawn to someone who really needs me, or if
i'm yes, you want to raise your hand again.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I get what you're saying now, and I understand that
if it happens to you, I've done that and it's
a mirror. And then what you're you're annoyed by is like, oh,
we'll shoot because that's you do that too.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Get help?
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Are you thinking of something very specific in your head?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, I have a therapy appointment tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Right, that's just this well, and I think it's fine
to notice that you're drawn to that person, but you
have to ask yourself, why why am I drawn to them?
Because maybe there's something about them that I really like
and I want my life, or maybe there's some story
I'm trying to rewrite, or maybe there's something about me
that I want to change. There's a million reasons. So
I do have mixed feelings. Just because you're drawn to
(17:24):
somebody doesn't mean you should lean into them, but you
can still pay attention to it. All right. This is
the last one, a sense that you are.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
So because I know what it is.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
This is the fourth gut feeling you should not ignore,
kat Please say it a.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Sense that you are not well or that you want
to punch a hole in the wall. It doesn't say
the last part. But your body always knows when something
isn't quite right, and you will always receive signs that
something is off. Trust your body. It is intelligent, which
it really is. And I wonder if we need to
take some space for you to pay attention to this
(18:08):
one today.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
You know when I booked my therapy appointment for tomorrow today.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah, I know something's off.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
With me, Like I think stuff's manifesting, even like physically
I have no idea what it is, and I don't
know that I have to figure it out. But I
just woke up not well and just full of my
body feeling all kinds of things. And I know my
hormones are a little here whatever, but I feel like
I've been managing things okay. But then my body was
(18:36):
physically reacting like I was hot, I had chills, so
I was like, oh, do I have some sort of
a virus, But then I didn't.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Well, it could be your body's way of saying slow down,
and it might be a more emotional or psychological thing
that's happening to you, but your body it couldn't get
your attention any other way, or your body's been working
so hard to push past them and the stuff that
now it's like we don't even have the ability to
fight all that these other things, and so it's coming
out now.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I'm thinking I could just talk to you and cancel
my appointment for tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
No, no, no, no, I think you should go.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Just kidding.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
This is actually with a new therapist. I'll still have
my other therapists. I'm finally ready to explore some other things.
I'm finally ready to explore some other things such as ketamine.
(19:34):
Oh wow, we'll talk about that later, but I don't know.
I finally just made the appointment. I don't know what
it was today. I'm like, I'm open to anything. I
just want to feel better. What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Well, I was going to say, you should probably say
a little bit more before you just like leave it there,
because a lot of people don't know that ketamine is
used by professionals.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Now, okay, yes, this is absolutely one hundred percent a
therapist that is very certified and does what. Actually, I
don't know that I'm even going to do it. I'm
having my first appointment to do talk therapy first because
that is required, so we will be doing talk therapy
(20:13):
Tomorrow's what they call intake, like getting to know you
stuff like that. So I don't even know that I'm
going to do that before anybody's like, what that sounds crazy. One,
whatever is being offered, which Kat probably knows way more
than I do about this sort of stuff, is totally legal.
And Two, I think I do have some stuff that
(20:35):
I've been holding on to. However, I need to get
through it, whether maybe it is more talk therapy in
a different way, and maybe it's exploring the kind of mean,
maybe it's not.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Maybe I don't end up doing it.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I don't know, And of course whatever I do, I
say with a full disclaimer, does not mean that it
is for you. I do wonder about switching it up,
even talking with a new therapist that I haven't talked
to at all, that my my therapy that I had
through a lot of ups and downs in life, more downs,
Let's be honest, there wasn't many ups at the moment.
(21:09):
It was the same therapist, which I don't know, Kat
your thoughts on this.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I adore her. That's not the change that I need.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
But I do wonder if, like now that I've I'm
separated from all of that, going back and kind of
revisiting it all with someone from what I can say now,
where I am and who I am.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I don't know. I don't even know what I'm saying
right now.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Go ahead, honestly, well, I think that it's fair to
every like a couple of years, if you want to
switch up your therapists, do that. A lot of people
are taught not to seek the same client for multiple years.
Some people are different, and so I think it's not
like you find one and you keep them the rest
of your life, you can or if you want new perspective.
That's Therapists also have different specialties, So what one therapist
(21:53):
might be leaning towards when you are processing something might
be something different, and you might get something different seeing
the same thing with somebody else.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
That's kind of what I was curious about. And I
think curiosity is king. Yeah, this is me not ignoring
something that I've been feeling as like maybe processing this
out with a fresh perspective. Not that I haven't had
wonderful advice, but something in me still feel stuck. And
I'm like, Okay, I've gone through all of that and
(22:25):
now there's this new version of me. I feel like
five years from now there will be a newer version
of me. Everyone has stuff at all times. I want
to continue to grow and I'm just doing some exploration.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Are you getting uncomfortable?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Maybe I didn't know for sure. For sure, i'd say
that part, but I didn't know that I was going
to say. My appointment tomorrow is with a new therapist
to explore some new ways of talking about things, dealing
with some old stuff. Yeah, yeah, so there you have it.
Maybe if other people have their experiences. Probably just want
to hear from people that have had an experience with
(23:01):
a trained professional. I'm not looking for anybody that went to,
you know, Mexico, met with some shama.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I don't know. Is that what they're called?
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Shaman? Oh?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Shaman? See, I don't even know what they're called.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Have you listened to Kristin Cavaleri's episode about whatever she
did in Cancun?
Speaker 3 (23:23):
No, I can't take Kristin Cavalary seriously.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Okay, I have no opinion about it.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
This is like sounds like a story where I'm saying, yah, yeah, yeah,
my friend was listening to it.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
But I swear it with you.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
No, I would tell you if I did. I don't,
I don't whatever. I don't have an opinion, but cryocat.
I was driving with her. Actually I remember right where
we are we were because I was so fascinated with
what we were listening to, because I was like, wait,
Kristin probably has hundreds of thousands, who knows how many people,
and on her Instagram millions of listeners of our podcast probably,
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and yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I'm just glad.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
She kept saying like I'm not an expert, you know,
because she was giving play by play. I thought she
did handle it well though from what I recall. But yeah,
she has to be your cup of tea. You know
and know that she's not an expert. But Kat was
listening to it and we were at Costco going through
the car wash. Car wash at Costco one of my
favorite places, Kat, before we wrap, tell me one of
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your favorite places to get my car washed, no, just
anywhere to be.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
One of mine is the Costco car wash.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Okay, I will admit a car wash is one of
my favorite things to do, but I can't be the
one driving because I have an immense fear of not
being able to get on the track. It keeps me
from doing it. I feel the same way when I
have to pull in my own car to get my
oil change, Like I will put off getting my oil
change it's scary and like I didn't realize that there's
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people underneath your car when you're getting oil change. So
now I have this fear of what if I do
it wrong and I roll over the wrong and my
car collapses.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
On the person. Okay, so that's not one of your
favorite places.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I'm working through that. One of my favorite places.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
The pickleball court with Big P.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
I too love the pickleball court. You know what. One
of my favorite places that I was going to do today,
but it's so hot outside, I don't think I can
do it is the Greenway McKay, like outside on a walk,
but I haven't been able to do it because the
cicadas and now I feel like they've kind of taken
a nap. It's ninety degrees out today, so I don't
think I can do that.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Well, I hope you get to go do it. Maybe
when the sun goes down a little bit. Can you
go at dusk?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Yeah, but that's like almost bedtime.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Okay, speaking of bedtime, I have another email from Jasmine
and we'll close with this. Hey, Amy, which type of
cozy earth sheets do you and Kat love? There is
the bamboo sheet and the linen bamboo sheet. Let me know,
thank you Jasmine. I have the bamboo, what about you?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
I have bamboo and I also that's the material I
have in my pajamas.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Too, so soft. And you got some for Big P right.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yes, And that was an extra gift that I got
on the side for him because he really wanted like
golf shoes and he wore them for like a week straight.
He was obsessed with them, So any guide in your life,
they're joggers and they're like Basic Tea can't recommend it enough.
And if you use the code you need, I think
it gets you thirty five percent off. You can still
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use that.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
KATS podcast is called you Need Therapy. Her Instagram handle
is you Need Therapy podcast, and so that's why the
code is you need like you need therapy, like I
need therapy, We need therapy. We all need therapy, but
you need need. That's your podcast Instagram. What about your
other one?
Speaker 3 (26:44):
It is at cat dot Defauda.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
And then I am at Radio Amy and thank you
for coming to our little chat. The fifth Thing is
the bonus episode to the Four Things podcast. Don't forget
to check out the Stephen Young one from last Thursday,
the Walker Hayes one the one before. I loved my
chat with both of them. The last two weeks have
been so good. And then people are loving the episode
I did with Nada from a few weeks ago as well.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Nada Taha. She used to be on the Bobby Bone Show.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
So there's lots of Four Things episodes up if you
need to catch up. And then the steven episodes in
the show notes, I linked the previous ones, like from
twenty nineteen, so that way you don't have to go
searching for them, because even me, when I go try
to look and search for certain episodes, I'm like, this
is hard. Either I'm not doing this right or this
is difficult. So I made it easy to put it
in the show notes. They're linked in there. Oh and yeah,
(27:34):
super Blake, I'll link his Instagram in the show notes,
so that way that's easy to find, just in case
I'm spelling something wrong or it's not underscore and.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
It's dash whatever.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
But I hope y'all are doing great, and like Kat
loves to say, hope you're having the
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Day you need to have, all right, Bye, ye hie
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Amy and I'm Kat And today's quote is from
Chris Rock. When you meet someone for the first time,
you're not meeting them, you're meeting their representative.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
That's a good one, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
It's like you're meeting the version of them that they
want you to see.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
And I guess for every single person on this entire planet,
it is a different amount of time to start peeling
back the layers of who they really are.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Sometimes I peel them back a little too quick with people,
and I'm like, why did I just say all of that.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Your representative isn't as strong, I guess.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
And then other times I have a wall up big
time and I have on avasade and I'm like being
a chameleon trying to fit in, and I just want
people to like me. I want to belong, so I
try by fitting in. But there's a difference, as we know,
thanks Brene Brown.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
And I also think that's one of the reasons I
had a for myself where unless there was like something
very very off putting when I was dating, I always
gave somebody like a second chance, like a second date,
because you're not really getting to know them, You're getting
to know a version of them, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Or even yeah with friendships, yeah, a business relationship, something
like that.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I just think it's Yeah, it's a good one to
keep in mind.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
So nice little quote there from Chris Rock which makes
me thinks so funny things. And there was this rebook
quote I came across too, so I'll just throw that
one out there, and she was like, everyone needs three
kind of bones. I'm paraphrasing here real quick, but she
basically said everybody needs a wishbone, a backbone, and a
funny bone.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
That sounds like a Reeba McIntyre quote.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I have an email from Alison, so I'm gonna start
with this and then Kat's gonna go over some fun
stuff with us, and she's gonna be leading me because
before we got on, I'm just having one of those
days where I don't know, my brain is all over
the place and I'm doing my breath work and I'm
staying calm. I just have not been well. And I
(02:06):
told her that I want to what I say exactly
like punch the wall or throw something into.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
The wall, but your fist through the wall.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, that would feel so good right now?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
A break.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
No, I'm going to read you this email. That's what
I'm gonna do because the email made me feel real good.
This is a warm email, whatever a war email is, okay.
Hi Amy, I just started listening to your podcast this
year and I am so grateful for it. The latest
one with Stephen from Home Street Home pulled on my heartstrings.
After listening to all three of the podcasts that he
(02:43):
was on and crying through most of them, I decided
to take action That day. I went out and bought
most everything he mentioned on the list of summer needs
for homeless friends. My daughters and I spent the afternoon
decorating the bags with phrases like you are loved and
you matter.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
They helped me fill the bag and.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
We're going to be giving them out this weekend in Portland, Maine,
the closest big city to where we live, and we're
also going to keep some in the car. Thank you
and Steven for reminding me always to be grateful, that
a smile can change someone's day, and that even small
gestures can make a big difference. Allison and I have
(03:21):
copied and pasted this email to Stephen via text, and Alison,
thank you so much for sharing this. And if you're
just listening to this Fit thing and you didn't hear
Stephen on last Thursday's Four Things episode. His name is
Stephen Young, and he's the founder of Home Street Home,
which is a homeless ministry here in Nashville, And it
was his third time on my podcast. He was on
way back in twenty nineteen, then again in twenty twenty one,
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and then now this year in twenty twenty four, and
each time we've gone a little bit different. Some of
his backstory he gives. It's just fascinating. But I did
encourage you, if you're not familiar, go listen to each episode.
And it's so special that Allison did because Stephen's story
it's such a beautiful story of redemption and I just
adore him and the work that he's doing. And I
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believe this week maybe Gracie Moekler is another friend of mine.
Her husband, Steve Mochler, is a singer songwriter, and last
year they started doing a benefit for Home Street Home
and they're doing another one this year in August, and
I believe it's going to get announced this week or next,
so I will keep y'all posted on that but if
you're in Nashville or you want to plan a trip
to Nashville, it's going to be a special night to
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benefit them. But the fact that Allison and I'm sure
others just took time to be invested in his story
and the difference that he's making means a lot. And
that you involved your children in this. It's so beautiful.
I know as a mom what it meant for me
for to share to say, Hey, I want to go
serve the homeless for my seventeenth birthday. I will admit
also as a mom of a teenager, I was a
(04:47):
little bit like, this is really sweet, but what's up?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
That's your representative, Yes, what's going on here?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
But she went and she did it, and she served
and she asked questions and it was genuine. And as
a mom, our son went as well, and one of
my daughter's best friends went and it was beautiful to see.
And I just appreciate y' all listening. So that's an
email about the episode with Steven. People can check it out.
And now, Kat, my heart is warm, but I'm still
going to hand it over to you for some of
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the other things that we're going to talk about.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I was gonna say, if you were going to define
a warm email, that would be it like an email
that makes you feel like you're getting a hug, Right,
That's what that is.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, and hopefully it's an email that it's sort of
one of those things that keeps on giving. Because Stephen
came on and shared his story. She did something and
then she sends that email, and someone simply hearing that
email it might encourage them to go do something. So ooh,
it's getting warm everywhere.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Kat is on Zoom right now, and it's such a
bummer because I was the one not feeling well, so
she didn't come over to record, but not because I
was scared I was going to like throw her through
the wall or something. But it was more so because
I had a fever earlier and I've just been hot
and I don't feel right, like something's going on. But
I am sad because on Zoom, your laugh is lost.
(06:09):
It doesn't come through the It's like Zoom's like this
is too loud. I don't know what to do because
i'd see you laughing hysterically, but I don't hear anything.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Zoom literally is like this is too loud.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
We have to shut it off.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I just wish people could see it, or Houston kind
of like, you know, capture your laugh somewhere and like
hilariously insert it and it'll be like our little inside
joke right now. Hey, Houston, can you just please insert
Kat's laugh where it's awkwardly silent, because it's like you're
dying laughing and I see it, and I love your
laugh and it makes me laugh more, which makes listeners laugh,
(06:45):
and we all have to have a funny bone. Apparently,
I want people to hear your laughter because it's contagious.
But AnyWho, let's move on.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Side note. I don't know why that's name me think
of that. I watched Baby Reindeer this weekend.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
You've yeah, it's definitely not funny. Well, it's not funny.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I guess what I thought of is it was one
of the hard The whole thing was pretty hard to watch,
but one of the things that was the hardest to
watch is when the guy was doing comedy and nobody
was laughing.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
First of all, I didn't finish it, full disclosure, but
I did watch about three or maybe I did. It's
one of those I don't want to even remember that
I watched it, like that's how awful I felt. But
I know I watched a lot of it, but I
don't think I finished it, and if I did, I
blocked it out.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Okay, then we'll move on. I will say, not a
show I would necessarily recommend I did. I didn't watch
the last episode because I was like, okay, we get
it anyway. What I do want to share is this
comes from House of Investors on Instagram, and it's four
gut instincts you should not ignore. So I'm going to
read them, and you're gonna tell me if you ignore
those or if you pay attention to them. Number one,
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excitement about an opportunity. Excitement is your intuition's way of
saying that something about that opportunity is reading with your soul.
Don't allow your logical mind to talk you out of
something you deeply feel is aligned for you, So.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Pay attention to excitement.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I guess sometimes I'm like, I have to like sit
with am I feeling like nervous?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Good? Am I feeling nervous?
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Bad?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Am I feeling excited? Good?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Sometimes it's determining whatever my gut's trying to tell me.
But I guess that's when journaling can come in handy.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, I think that this one is pretty important because
the part where it says, don't allow your logical mind
to talk you out of something that you feel is
deeply aligned with you. A lot of times when I
feel excitement about certain opportunities, my logical mind will say
things like, oh, you couldn't do that, or like that
would be a lot of work, or are you sure
when it's trying to like protect me. That logical mind
(08:44):
is trying to protect me from getting hurt or my
I don't know, somebody not liking something I do, or
maybe even failing at something. But that's also taking away
opportunities that I would really appreciate. So logical mind, it's tricky.
Number two. A feeling of danger Number two. A feeling
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of danger when you get a feeling something is off
and you feel an immense sense of nervousness, take it seriously.
Better safe than sorry.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Okay, So here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
The other night, I was like, I don't think I
locked on my doors, and I know that I did,
and I set my alarm. I do that every night,
but something about me just was like, why do I
have this feeling I'm not paying attention to something. And
sure enough I went around and I locked all the doors,
I set my alarm, I did everything I was supposed
to do. I was almost asleep, and then I had
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this instant feeling something was off. So I got up,
turned off my alarm, went and checked like everything because
I had to open my door to look at my garage,
and sure enough, I left one of my garage doors open.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
No way.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah, in the pro of shutting my entire house down,
setting the alarm, everything I normally do, and I could
have easily slept through it, which if someone would have
gotten into my garage, like they wouldn't have been able
to get into my house. My house is locked, my
alarm is on, there's nothing happening, but I mean they
could have taken my new shovel.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
But also, even when you have an alarm, I will
say that it still takes time for the people to
realize that it's an actual emergency and then for people
to actually show up.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
So oh, well, my people, they show up fast because
one time, oh really, my tash, because I think I
live near to like wherever local response places. Well, because
first responders can come from you know, police departments, or
little hubs or like where police tend to hang out
a lot fire station like a hospital, And I am
(10:51):
so terrified to be late to the Bobby Bone show
because if we're late, Bobby sends us home like thirty
seconds late. Oh no, hey, yeah, because you're not just
letting yourself down and let everybody else down, So like
you need to learn. And honestly, I was late one
time and I got sent home and I have not been.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Late since, so it does work. That was years ago.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
But I forgot to turn my alarm off while I
was getting ready and doing all my things, and I
was already running behind, and I could not get it
to shut off. Like I opened the door, and I'm like,
it starts worm boom, like it's slow, and then it
starts amping up, and I'm like, if I stay here
to figure this out, like I don't know what's going on,
but if I stay here, I'm going to be late
to work.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
And I was in fight flight.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Fortunately I didn't freeze, so that way I could just
calmly eventually snap out of it and handle it and
I would be here. But I got my car and
I bolted to work, and my alarm company called me,
and I don't know. I guess I was too busy
trying to figure something else out. I didn't say it's okay,
and the police showed up like pretty rapidly after it
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went off, and I had to then explain when I
did answer, sorry, I was gonna be late for work.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
And if I'm late for I'm sent home.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
They're like, uh, we don't care.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
And they're like, how old are you?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yes, officer, I am forty two years old.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Was anybody else at your house?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, my children.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
The police show up to a house that's alarm is
going off with two children inside. Oh fine, no big deal.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah. Not my proudest moment, but that is a perfect
example of when you go into survival mode, you aren't
making rational decisions. And my children were not in danger.
I do believe I can go into survival mode, and
if my children are in danger, I would make different decisions.
But nobody was in danger, and I knew it was
all going to get ironed out. But I don't want
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to waste people's time. I don't want to waste the
city's time.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
But I guess I thought I would have it all
figured out before the police arrived, but they got here
so fast, is my point.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I didn't have that same experience when my alarm went off,
so I'm glad sometimes they show up.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Best listen to that gut feeling of danger and not
that my garage door being open danger. But I just
somehow before my body would shut down, like I had
some like thing that was like, go take care of yourself.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Yeah, and I feel like that happens a lot of
times too, with like unplugging the curly and iron stuff
like that, where it probably won't do anything if you
did leave it on, but it's better safe than sorry,
so you might as well turn it off. Which there's
a podcaster. Her name's Kate Kennedy. She has to be
there on five podcast. The way she even blew up
is because she started making doormats that said turn off
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your straightener and turn off your curly and Iron. So
when you left, you remembered I.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Love Kate Kennedy.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
That's good and just such a good reminder of like
your crazy ideas, like you never know, you throw something
up on Etsy or throw something online, and next thing
you know, it changed her life.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yeah, changed her life waiting for that to happen to
me one day. I had an Etsy shop one time.
I didn't ever post anything on.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
It, though with your jewelry.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Back when I had a jewelry business, I think I
posted like one bracelet up there, and then I was like,
this is a lot of work, so I gave it
up anyway. Number three, being drawn to someone. We are
always drawn to people for a reason. It means their
presence serves a divine purpose. Even if it's only a
brief encounter or a temporary relationship, there's a reason the
universe wants you to collide. I have mixed feelings on this.
(14:19):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Okay, Well, since you talked about jewelry and bracelets and
being drawn to something, I want to mention super Blake.
The Instagram handle is at super underscore Blake and he's
this adorable little kid that is selling these precious bracelets
that he makes because he is trying to go to Disney,
so he's selling the bracelets and saving up. And the
(14:41):
bracelets also serve as anti bully messages because he has
been bullied a lot. Check out his page you can
learn everything there. I ordered three bracelets. They're so cute
and they've got different colored beads. He has a few
different sayings that you can choose from, and I chose
be nice man. And I was drawn to his Instagram
(15:02):
page when I saw someone repost him. So I'm glad
I paid attention to that nudge to go click on
his page because I had never heard of him before,
and it's just really cute. And I got my bracelets
and I love them, so carry on.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Well one, I'm glad that his joy business is more
successful than mine was, although I did get into some festivals.
I got a booth that Tomato Fest in East Nashville,
which is a big deal in the craft world. But
being drawn to someone, I have mixed feelings on this
because every time we're drawn to someone, that doesn't mean
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we necessarily need to lean into that desire. Yes, you
have your hand up.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, I have a hand up, teacher, Miss Stafauda, is
it because sometimes people can have riz? Excuse me, oh, Mistefauda,
do you not know what riz is?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I have no idea. Is this like a new.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
That's what the young people refer to as charisma?
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Wait, I feel like somebody was was it you that
was telling me about this? Now? This is coming back,
But that's what we call it.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Maybe we might even have gone over a list of
words from the Young'in's on the fifth thing like quizzing
to see if you know them. I don't know, but
RIZ is charisma, and I assume that sometimes we're drawn
to someone because they are charismatic, and it might actually
be a representative and not really them exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
I can't wait for you to use riz in a
serious sentence one day.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I don't think I ever could. But that's why I
had to act like a child, and you were my teacher.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah. I think a lot of times we're drawn to
also unhealthy parts of our own stuff, Right like if
I'm drawn to someone who really needs me, or if
i'm yes, you want to raise your hand again.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I get what you're saying now, and I understand that
if it happens to you, I've done that and it's
a mirror. And then what you're you're annoyed by is like, oh,
we'll shoot because that's you do that too.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Get help?
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Are you thinking of something very specific in your head?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, I have a therapy appointment tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Right, that's just this well, and I think it's fine
to notice that you're drawn to that person, but you
have to ask yourself, why why am I drawn to them?
Because maybe there's something about them that I really like
and I want my life, or maybe there's some story
I'm trying to rewrite, or maybe there's something about me
that I want to change. There's a million reasons. So
I do have mixed feelings. Just because you're drawn to
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somebody doesn't mean you should lean into them, but you
can still pay attention to it. All right. This is
the last one, a sense that you are.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
So because I know what it is.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
This is the fourth gut feeling you should not ignore,
kat Please say it a.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Sense that you are not well or that you want
to punch a hole in the wall. It doesn't say
the last part. But your body always knows when something
isn't quite right, and you will always receive signs that
something is off. Trust your body. It is intelligent, which
it really is. And I wonder if we need to
take some space for you to pay attention to this
(18:08):
one today.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
You know when I booked my therapy appointment for tomorrow today.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah, I know something's off.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
With me, Like I think stuff's manifesting, even like physically
I have no idea what it is, and I don't
know that I have to figure it out. But I
just woke up not well and just full of my
body feeling all kinds of things. And I know my
hormones are a little here whatever, but I feel like
I've been managing things okay. But then my body was
(18:36):
physically reacting like I was hot, I had chills, so
I was like, oh, do I have some sort of
a virus, But then I didn't.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Well, it could be your body's way of saying slow down,
and it might be a more emotional or psychological thing
that's happening to you, but your body it couldn't get
your attention any other way, or your body's been working
so hard to push past them and the stuff that
now it's like we don't even have the ability to
fight all that these other things, and so it's coming
out now.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I'm thinking I could just talk to you and cancel
my appointment for tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
No, no, no, no, I think you should go.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Just kidding.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
This is actually with a new therapist. I'll still have
my other therapists. I'm finally ready to explore some other things.
I'm finally ready to explore some other things such as ketamine.
(19:34):
Oh wow, we'll talk about that later, but I don't know.
I finally just made the appointment. I don't know what
it was today. I'm like, I'm open to anything. I
just want to feel better. What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Well, I was going to say, you should probably say
a little bit more before you just like leave it there,
because a lot of people don't know that ketamine is
used by professionals.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Now, okay, yes, this is absolutely one hundred percent a
therapist that is very certified and does what. Actually, I
don't know that I'm even going to do it. I'm
having my first appointment to do talk therapy first because
that is required, so we will be doing talk therapy
(20:13):
Tomorrow's what they call intake, like getting to know you
stuff like that. So I don't even know that I'm
going to do that before anybody's like, what that sounds crazy. One,
whatever is being offered, which Kat probably knows way more
than I do about this sort of stuff, is totally legal.
And Two, I think I do have some stuff that
(20:35):
I've been holding on to. However, I need to get
through it, whether maybe it is more talk therapy in
a different way, and maybe it's exploring the kind of mean,
maybe it's not.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Maybe I don't end up doing it.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I don't know, And of course whatever I do, I
say with a full disclaimer, does not mean that it
is for you. I do wonder about switching it up,
even talking with a new therapist that I haven't talked
to at all, that my my therapy that I had
through a lot of ups and downs in life, more downs,
Let's be honest, there wasn't many ups at the moment.
(21:09):
It was the same therapist, which I don't know, Kat
your thoughts on this.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I adore her. That's not the change that I need.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
But I do wonder if, like now that I've I'm
separated from all of that, going back and kind of
revisiting it all with someone from what I can say now,
where I am and who I am.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I don't know. I don't even know what I'm saying
right now.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Go ahead, honestly, well, I think that it's fair to
every like a couple of years, if you want to
switch up your therapists, do that. A lot of people
are taught not to seek the same client for multiple years.
Some people are different, and so I think it's not
like you find one and you keep them the rest
of your life, you can or if you want new perspective.
That's Therapists also have different specialties, So what one therapist
(21:53):
might be leaning towards when you are processing something might
be something different, and you might get something different seeing
the same thing with somebody else.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
That's kind of what I was curious about. And I
think curiosity is king. Yeah, this is me not ignoring
something that I've been feeling as like maybe processing this
out with a fresh perspective. Not that I haven't had
wonderful advice, but something in me still feel stuck. And
I'm like, Okay, I've gone through all of that and
(22:25):
now there's this new version of me. I feel like
five years from now there will be a newer version
of me. Everyone has stuff at all times. I want
to continue to grow and I'm just doing some exploration.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Are you getting uncomfortable?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Maybe I didn't know for sure. For sure, i'd say
that part, but I didn't know that I was going
to say. My appointment tomorrow is with a new therapist
to explore some new ways of talking about things, dealing
with some old stuff. Yeah, yeah, so there you have it.
Maybe if other people have their experiences. Probably just want
to hear from people that have had an experience with
(23:01):
a trained professional. I'm not looking for anybody that went to,
you know, Mexico, met with some shama.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I don't know. Is that what they're called?
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Shaman? Oh?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Shaman? See, I don't even know what they're called.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Have you listened to Kristin Cavaleri's episode about whatever she
did in Cancun?
Speaker 3 (23:23):
No, I can't take Kristin Cavalary seriously.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Okay, I have no opinion about it.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
This is like sounds like a story where I'm saying, yah, yeah, yeah,
my friend was listening to it.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
But I swear it with you.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
No, I would tell you if I did. I don't,
I don't whatever. I don't have an opinion, but cryocat.
I was driving with her. Actually I remember right where
we are we were because I was so fascinated with
what we were listening to, because I was like, wait,
Kristin probably has hundreds of thousands, who knows how many people,
and on her Instagram millions of listeners of our podcast probably,
(23:59):
and yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I'm just glad.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
She kept saying like I'm not an expert, you know,
because she was giving play by play. I thought she
did handle it well though from what I recall. But yeah,
she has to be your cup of tea. You know
and know that she's not an expert. But Kat was
listening to it and we were at Costco going through
the car wash. Car wash at Costco one of my
favorite places, Kat, before we wrap, tell me one of
(24:23):
your favorite places to get my car washed, no, just
anywhere to be.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
One of mine is the Costco car wash.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Okay, I will admit a car wash is one of
my favorite things to do, but I can't be the
one driving because I have an immense fear of not
being able to get on the track. It keeps me
from doing it. I feel the same way when I
have to pull in my own car to get my
oil change, Like I will put off getting my oil
change it's scary and like I didn't realize that there's
(24:52):
people underneath your car when you're getting oil change. So
now I have this fear of what if I do
it wrong and I roll over the wrong and my
car collapses.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
On the person. Okay, so that's not one of your
favorite places.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I'm working through that. One of my favorite places.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
The pickleball court with Big P.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
I too love the pickleball court. You know what. One
of my favorite places that I was going to do today,
but it's so hot outside, I don't think I can
do it is the Greenway McKay, like outside on a walk,
but I haven't been able to do it because the
cicadas and now I feel like they've kind of taken
a nap. It's ninety degrees out today, so I don't
think I can do that.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Well, I hope you get to go do it. Maybe
when the sun goes down a little bit. Can you
go at dusk?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Yeah, but that's like almost bedtime.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Okay, speaking of bedtime, I have another email from Jasmine
and we'll close with this. Hey, Amy, which type of
cozy earth sheets do you and Kat love? There is
the bamboo sheet and the linen bamboo sheet. Let me know,
thank you Jasmine. I have the bamboo, what about you?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
I have bamboo and I also that's the material I
have in my pajamas.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Too, so soft. And you got some for Big P right.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yes, And that was an extra gift that I got
on the side for him because he really wanted like
golf shoes and he wore them for like a week straight.
He was obsessed with them, So any guide in your life,
they're joggers and they're like Basic Tea can't recommend it enough.
And if you use the code you need, I think
it gets you thirty five percent off. You can still
(26:24):
use that.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
KATS podcast is called you Need Therapy. Her Instagram handle
is you Need Therapy podcast, and so that's why the
code is you need like you need therapy, like I
need therapy, We need therapy. We all need therapy, but
you need need. That's your podcast Instagram. What about your
other one?
Speaker 3 (26:44):
It is at cat dot Defauda.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
And then I am at Radio Amy and thank you
for coming to our little chat. The fifth Thing is
the bonus episode to the Four Things podcast. Don't forget
to check out the Stephen Young one from last Thursday,
the Walker Hayes one the one before. I loved my
chat with both of them. The last two weeks have
been so good. And then people are loving the episode
I did with Nada from a few weeks ago as well.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Nada Taha. She used to be on the Bobby Bone Show.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
So there's lots of Four Things episodes up if you
need to catch up. And then the steven episodes in
the show notes, I linked the previous ones, like from
twenty nineteen, so that way you don't have to go
searching for them, because even me, when I go try
to look and search for certain episodes, I'm like, this
is hard. Either I'm not doing this right or this
is difficult. So I made it easy to put it
in the show notes. They're linked in there. Oh and yeah,
(27:34):
super Blake, I'll link his Instagram in the show notes,
so that way that's easy to find, just in case
I'm spelling something wrong or it's not underscore and.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
It's dash whatever.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
But I hope y'all are doing great, and like Kat
loves to say, hope you're having the
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Day you need to have, all right, Bye, ye hie
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