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August 6, 2024 17 mins

Between Amy's mouthguard and new mouth tape, Kat's not sure she'll get a boyfriend! Both have benefits....at least the mouth guard does....jury is still out on the tape...but they go over what the research claims. Kat also tells us about "frownies" (wrinkle patches - are they legit or snake oil??) and Amy shares a list of healthy ways to lose track of time (Kat's new hobby lands on this list & we learn that Kat went on a potentially dangerous first date with a guy - before she met Big P, of course!)

Today's Quote: "I've woken up over 10,000 times and I'm still not used to it." - El Arroyo sign in Austin, Texas

 

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Kat and today's quote is from one of our faves,
the El Royo Sign. They had a quote that they
put up that said, I've woken up over ten thousand
times and I'm still not used to it. And I'm like, mhmm, yeah,
what is it about waking up? I feel like you
wake up early often and you may not get out

(00:26):
of bed, but you're awake.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
But the problem is I will wake up at six
am on the weekend and be wired and ready to go,
but when I have to wake up at that same
time on the weekdays, I find it very difficult annoying.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
I love the mornings so much, but waking up is
not easy for me. I consider myself a morning person,
but I'm not like, ah, brand new day, hop out
of bed at all. And I guess, yeah, I'm not
really either used to it or it's just not that
way for anybody. And I keep thinking, like, what can

(01:01):
I do to get more rest? Like I tried to
do all the things last night. I did my gratitude
before bed so it could ease my mind, and I
listened to calming meditation while I fell asleep so that
I could ease my mind, and then I put my
mouth tape on so that I could ease my breath
or whatever. I don't even know exactly why I'm using
the mouth tape, but we've talked about it before on

(01:23):
the Bobby Bone Show. And then I finally got an
Instagram ad that popped up and I thought, well, click
to buy. This seems easy enough. And it was pink,
so it was pretty because what we had talked about
on the Bobby Bone Show was called hostage tape and
it was just this black strip that went across your mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
How is that a good marketing strategy?

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Well, it must work for the men.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Wait, that's actually really scary. Yeah, I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
That I love that. But CNN did an article a
few months ago improved nasal breathing, increased oxygen intake, reduced snoring,
improved oral hygiene, better breath, better sleep, and therefore higher energy,
which that's me. I want that, and so I have
to put my mouth guarden and then I've been putting
the tape over it. So before I put the tape in,

(02:05):
if I talk to my kids or you know, my
niece was here all summer long, and she would die
laughing anytime I would get ready for bed and have
my mouth guarden, because I'd be like Thethira get ready
for bed. And then when I sometimes I would already
have my mouth tape on and I would have my
guard in, and I need to tell them all something,
and I would say, and you.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Look at me, like what, And I'm like, but if
they have like friends over, they're like, that's just my
mom with her hostage tape. What's on your mom's face,
It's just her hostage tape.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
And then there are times that I put my tape
on and I forgot to put my garden, so i'd
have to re no. Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
I can't wait for you to really start dating again.
And then them to be like, what's your bedtime routine?
You're like, well, first I put my mouth guard in,
and did I take my mouth shute worth?

Speaker 1 (03:02):
I think the king together, I failer, and I sleep
with my dad, your dog my dog?

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Cool?

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, Okay, where was I going to go with that?

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (03:20):
I think I was going to say, it's a thirty
day pack and I only have one left anyway, So
I don't know that all we new now that we've
had this conversation. I was going to do another reorder,
but do you ever just talk into your phone when
you want to know something? Because I think that's why
the ads would start popping up on my phone, because
we would talk about mouth tape and I kept seeing ads,

(03:42):
and the more I would see it, the closer I
would get to buying it. And then finally one day,
I guess it was convenient for me or my brain
had been conditioned enough to want to click on it,
and I clicked on it and I bought it.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
And do you know what frownies are?

Speaker 1 (03:54):
No?

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Okay, well this will be a good test because I
did a podcast episode with because somebody asked me about
them and what I thought about them. I had no
idea what they were. They are, from what I can understand,
like stickers you put on your face and they make
your wrinkles go away. Okay, I've seen these, but I
had never heard of them before.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
It's like botox, yes, but it doesn't really.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
It's like snake oil. I talked to an esthetician about
it and she was like, it will make your face
look different for like an hour, and then it's going
to go back to normal. But I was talking about
them with her, and then for months I was getting
ads on them. I never wanted them. It was like
I couldn't escape it. So now I can't escape mouth tape.
I'm gonna make you get me a new phone.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Okay, well no, I'm going to be getting frownies all
the time. I'm not going to fall for it frownies,
so don't send it to me snake oil, which the
mouth tape might be.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Snake oiled too.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
But I can really be a sometimes. I have to
do ye people sometimes and I just try it out
for myself. Stay away from me, back off cat. I mean,
it's pretty comical here at night, but even with mouth tape,
still waking up and I again, I love the mornings,

(05:07):
but I wouldn't say that. I'm like busting out of
bed with tons of energy, and you know we've done
this thousands of times, thousands and thousands. I'm not used
to it, but some people maybe they do, and they
have that gift.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
I think when you get older, you just start waking
up and it's different. Then it's like you can't go
to sleep. So maybe we should actually be.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Happy while I'm getting older. So I'm ready for that.
You know, a part of getting older is the hormone stuff,
because I've been dealing with that, and I saw this
whole list of annoying things people say to women, and
one of them is it's probably just your hormones, and
I don't know that. I so much find that one
annoying because it may very well be accurate, but sometimes
if we don't want to hear it, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
It's the way somebody says it though true, or it's
like who is saying it?

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Because there's also on the list, must be your time
of the month. And again I can say that about
myself or maybe somebody else can possibly say it, but yeah,
if the wrong person says it, or.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
If somebody's like, are you about to start?

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Because like, why do you think I'm being rude?

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Or sensitive? Because that's another one. You're being too sensitive.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Oh that's another one of the things.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Annoying things people say to women.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Well, you're being too not sensitive.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
What's the opposite of sensitive.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
You're being too numb to your emotions.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
That's a good comeback, because too not sensitive sounded a
little so I was like, childish, you need fireback with
like the actual antonate intate.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
We should use we should use those things that we
talked about saying when somebody says something rude, like well,
what do you mean by that? Or that's a really
weird thing to say to somebody out loud, out loud?
Yeah for all of YEA, that's why I would say,
that's a really weird thing to say to somebody.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, just relax. There is another one. When are you
having kids? You don't want to miss your opportunity? Oh
and it's like, well, what if I don't have an opportunity?
What if I had a hysterectomy and you don't know it.
What if I'm unable to get pregnant? What if my
partner can't have babies his sperm is unable.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
And also in my head, I'm like, we already know,
like we already know the things. If somebody's like, you
don't want to miss your opportunity if we are getting.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Older, and then also what if you just don't want
to But yeah, but like.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
My head is like, you're not giving me new information,
So I don't really think it needs to be said
out loud.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
You should smile more. I have a resting bee face.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
You do.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
I've been told that by multiple people. People in high
school would say it's people in college, other people in career,
like they would think I'm mad, and I'm not really mad,
but my face.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Is just resting sometimes too, I think with my eyes
like you can squint, and sometimes that can come off
as like.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
But let's just say your face is resting. In doing anything,
my resting chill face must give off sometimes resting bee face.
But maybe your mouth tape will face.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
I say, put your mouth tape on and make your
lips go up. You know.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
I mentioned not wanting to wake up, but that I
love the mornings, So I guess in a way, I
do want to wake up because I want to capitalize
on that. It's just not easy for me to pop
out of bed. But I sometimes lose myself in the mornings,
and there's just an energy that I am on in
the mornings that I can't capture later in the day,
Like it can be two pm and there's still plenty

(08:19):
of day left, but I don't feel the same when
I'm tackling things, Like there's just something about me doing
it first thing in the morning, and I just I
love it. I lose track of time in the morning
and the afternoon, I don't lose track of time.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
I think the day goes by slower.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Do you ever have something that you do that you
lose track of time, like when you were doing puzzles,
or like when I was into puzzles, or if you're
doing your art projects because now you're an artist, does
that help you lose track of time? Because I'm asking
this because of a specific journal prompt that I'm going
to throw out to all of us. I'm asking this

(09:05):
because of a specific journal prompt that I'm gonna throw
out to all of us, and it's to journal through
doing things in life that make you lose track of time, well.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
You really just are like invested in them. Well, I
was gonna say, when you said puzzling, that sounds so cool.
But the last puzzle I did, I'd be like, oh,
I'm gonna do it for ten minutes and then it
would be like an hour. And I did really like that,
But at the same time, I didn't like that. The
art to me is different because it's calming me. The
puzzling sometimes it's calming me, and sometimes it's like, oh,

(09:35):
this was an hour and I got two pieces. But
the art is very soothing, and I don't feel like
I have to be productive and I don't have a
million things going through my head, and I don't have
to be good at the art either.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
As what I'm learning, well, this prompt stood out to
me because I've often associated losing track of time as negative,
like I lost track of time. And so to your
point with the art, if you're losing track of time
with that, that's great. But when you hear someone say that,
it's oftentimes like, oh sorry, I'm late, I lost track
of time or oh like there's a sudden like negative

(10:07):
associated with the lost track of time. But what if
we looked at it as like a beautiful thing of
like we need to lose track of time more. It
makes me think our mastermind. A couple of weeks ago,
when Ali fallon, I'm calling her out in a very
positive way, but she hopped onto the call late and
she got on. She was like, hey, guys, I'm so sorry.
I just got admit I was playing with my kids

(10:28):
and I lost track of time. I was so looking
forward to this Mastermind and it's what I wanted to do,
and then I was playing with the kids and I
got lost in it with them, and we were all
happy for her, and that of course we all understood
and that was a beautiful moment of losing track of time,
but then could be seen as a negative because then
you're late to something. But luckily it was something where

(10:51):
we're all like, oh, no, no, that's a beautiful thing.
Lose track of time more. That's awesome. But if it
had been, you know, some major work of it or
something that had no getive impact, but it was almost
like we were all inspired by her, like, oh, lose
track of time more, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Like I want to be so invested in my life
that I lose track of time and I'm not waiting
to get to the next thing because I'm so in
the thing. I'm it.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah. Yeah, So that's something to do like that, to
journal through some healthy ways to lose track of time.
Puzzles are on here. Check we're so healthy art creating
something which your art is so beautiful? What is art?

Speaker 2 (11:29):
It's art?

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Art? Are we art?

Speaker 2 (11:31):
I thought about just throwing a can of paint on
a canvas and seeing I think people do that and
then they sell it for a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
I'm here for it, I promise you. I will buy
one of your pieces. I'll commission something. I'll just give
you that, or you commission it. I don't know how
you commissioned me. Okay, I'll commission you.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
But then I don't want an expectation.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
No expectations, okay, okay, create a phone free reading zone
in your house, a backyard campfire, trying a new activity,
a class, event, performance, like I want to take ballet?
What Shannon's been taking it?

Speaker 2 (12:02):
And where do you take a don't you told me that.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
The Nashville Ballet Company or something? On Thursday night, she
went to a class and it was supposed to be
for beginners, and she assumed a lot of people would
be there, but nobody else showed up, so she got
a private lesson.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Stop. I think that I wouldn't love that.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
I would private ballet lesson from a real ballerina.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
But has she ever done dance or ballet.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
I'm not sure of her exact dance experience, but she
went to beginner ballet the Nashville Ballet Company. I just
thought that was something cool.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Would you ever do one of those hip hop classes
where you learn a dance? And Monday? They failed me?
Do you have the video? No?

Speaker 1 (12:40):
I don't have the video, but I've taken hip hop
and that's a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
I would go back.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Okay, genealogy research, this is another healthy way to lose
track of time. Listen, I'm not into it, but I
gotta say, you got to appreciate the people that do
take the time to get into that. And there's almost
someone in every thing family that does. Like for me,
on my dad's side, it was his sister or maybe

(13:06):
even his brother's wife, my aunt Carolyn. She was very
into the family tree and made binders for everybody. Oh
and there's all this information that she took the time
to put together, and I'm very grateful for it. Would
I ever do it? Probably not, but I'm glad she did.
And maybe I need to go back and reference that
binder one day for something. But I just wanted to

(13:29):
take a moment to give a shout out to the
people that take the time to worry about the family
trees for the generations.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
To come shout out. Nobody in my family has done
that however, that you know of yet. That's true. I
also have heard a couple podcasts where people do that
and then they find out like dark secrets from their
family like that their dad is their uncle, or they
have a twin somewhere that they never knew about. So
I mean you have to be prepared for what you're

(13:55):
gonna find.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, I mean that's the like ancestry dot Com. Some
of this could be just building your family tree and
locations and where people are from. But to your point, Yeah,
if you've got blood work or you send off to
one of those tests, you may get back results that Yeah,
we're expect you have paint on your arm.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
I was painting this morning. I was getting lost.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Artists showed up here with paint on her arm. The
final healthy way to lose track of time or suggestion
outdoor adventure, which there is that waterfall that's close to
Nashville doing what I'm talking about. Yeah, I've never been,
but I'm going when it's on my list. I don't know. Okay,
maybe I'm going this weekend. I promise my cousin Amanda

(14:37):
might come in town.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Maybe I'm going this weekend. And then you say, I promise.
Do you promise me maybe that you're going, or you
promise me that you're going, because promising maybe that you're
going means nothing.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Okay, Okay, I think I'm my good this weekend. Okay,
I promise to.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Think about it, make it.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
No, But my niece was here all summer long, as
you'll know. She's gone now, which has been really difficult.
Well for me, I miss her. She was here for
over nine weeks and it's lonely now, especially on my
weeks that I don't have the kids. Like, I was
never alone, so it was cool I had her. And
she did all kinds of things around town, especially on

(15:14):
the weekends, like she'd go meet up with friends that
were in town, or she'd go do stuff by herself,
but mostly was people because she liked to be around
people and doing things kind of like you. And she
did all kinds of stuff. And I've lived here for
eleven years, and she was like, yeah, have you gone
here or eaten here, done this, or hike this or
something this waterfall And I'm like, no, no, no, no, you.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Are a creature of habit at home.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, I like my home.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Let's get you out. So if you don't go this weekend,
then we're going to put it on the calendar and
you're going to go. It's forty five minutes away or
something like that. It's a short height.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, she was with her friends. She said it was
so cool, so pretty worth it. I'm doing it.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Somebody tried to take me there on a first date.
And I say tried because we drove there. It's either
forty five minutes or an hour and a half. We
drove there first day.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
On a first date. How well did you know him?
Because you get in a car and you drive forty
five minutes to a remote location where he could murder you.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
We knew neutral people, so it was I wasn't scared
of him, gotcha. This date had been planned for like
a month. He was out of town and he came
to town. So we went. But we drive, we get there,
we get out of the car, we walk over to
the entrance and it was closed. Then he tried to
take me to a barbecue restaurant that was also closed.
And then he tried to take me to a taco
place and that place was close to because it was Sunday.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Oh so this is just like, hey, let's just call
this what it is. Reship.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
It did not work out.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
I'm no longer open.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
But that was actually the last time that I went there.
It was I need to redo it.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Okay, okay, Cat, when you're not doing art, where can
people find you?

Speaker 2 (16:43):
On Instagram? At You Need Therapy podcast and at Cat
van Buren.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
And her podcast is called do you Need Therapy? That's
why that's the podcast handle. And she's got episodes that
come out every Monday and every Wednesday. And I am
at radio Amy. Make sure you take our journal prompt
then you do it. We're gonna be doing it too.
What's one thing that makes you lose track of time?
And then how can you work that in to your

(17:09):
life in a positive way. I don't know if y'all
can hear the paper wrinkling, but that's my dog. She's
stepping on all of our papers. Not mistake.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Bye bye,

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