August 27, 2024 • 25 mins
Amy and Kat learn a new word (among other things) + they go over a list of lifelong behaviors we pick up from our parents + they share some personal stories that you may relate to (you're not alone if fractions are hard!)
Today's Quote:
“The 3 C’s of Life: Choice, Chances and Changes. You must make a choice to take a chance or your life will never change.” – Naina Sanghvi
Bonus Quotes:
“I bet it’s called Almond Milk because no one can say Nut Juice with a straight face.”
“Learn your place in people’s lives so you don’t end up overplaying your part.”
Lifelong Behaviors Your Kids Pickup From You:
- How you react when we are angry, afraid or frustrated.
- How you treat other people.
- How you handle mistakes and failure.
- How you apologize when you’re wrong.
- How you stand up for yourself and others.
- How you solve problems.
- How you ask for help when you’re struggling.
- How you take care of yourself.
- How you embrace differences in opinion, beliefs, preferences, etc.
- How you solve disagreements.
- How well you listen to others.
- How well you take care of the environment.
- How you treat animals.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Kat and our quote today is from Nina Songbody, I.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Sit over side.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
In A I N A S A N G h
V I.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I couldn't put those letters together in my head.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hooked on phonics worked for me. I do not know,
but I really like this quote. The three seeds of life, choice, chances,
and changes. You must make a choice to take a
chance or your life will never change.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
What is that song, Make a choice, make a change.
That's a Kelly Clarkson song. Maybe those aren't the words
and breakaway something like that. Well, there you go.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Maybe she strikes with Nina.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Kelly.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
If you're listening, I love that song.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Maybe Nina is a co writer. Maybe that song and
Brey you don't talk about. Yes, Kelly Clarkson has some jams,
for sure. I also saw this other quote, and I
don't know who it's from. I just saw it. But
it's learned your place in people's lives so you don't
end up overplaying your part.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Say that again, learn your.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Place in people's lives so you don't end up overplaying
your parts. Oh that's good, Boom, that is good. I
also don't know who said this one, but we're gonna
throw it out here. It's unknown, a little fun one.
I bet it's called almond milk because no one can
say nut juice with a straight face.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
You texted me that one, and you just texted me
that with no contexts, and I was like, wait, who
said that? And you're like nobody.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, could you imagine I'll take a latte? What kind
of milk? Would you like? Nut juice? I mean, that's
what it is.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
But if we were saying that more often, we probably
would get used to it.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Right, Like we say apple juice, but it.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Is juice because it's squeezed out of the nuts.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Did you ever see the infomercial at late night the
guy with the nut chopper and he'd be chopping the nuts,
and like while he'd be chopping it, he'd go, you're
gonna love my nuts.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
But there's a nutplace in the Outer Banks that we
used to vacation at and they had a nut shop
called try my Nuts.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Like as a.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Kid, Yeah, we had a house growing up. My grandparents
bought it. We used to go every summer.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
You're like, Nicholas Sparks or something.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, but I haven't been since college, but we're going
back this July. My older brother organized a trip for ust.
I'll go back.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
My dad's side of the family is having a family
reunion this fall. Are you thankful for family members that
organize things?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah? Wait? Also, why would I be like Nicholas Sparks.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Don't his books take place in the Outer Banks?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I have no idea. I was just thinking, like, oh, romance,
like a love story is what I think about. And
I'm like, Yeah. When I was going to the Outer Banks,
I was wearing like glasses with like a those like
I mean, like connection things. In case I was swimming
in the ocean, I lost my glasses, they would float
and I was like boogie boarding. I had like a
live Greenes swim suit. I didn't have a vacation boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
But I bet if you went back later, it'd be
like the summer. I turn pretty Wait, that was like
my life.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Really, I don't know. I guess I'm we're in contacts now,
so that could like change my whole life. Like a
dozen of movies, when somebody gets some glasses to contacts,
I become like a whole new person.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, thinking of us being kids, are there things that
your parents did and you picked up that behavior from them,
because I have a list of lifelong behaviors that kids
pick up from us. Ooh, and for me as a parent,
I'm like, oh, okay, but is there something you ever
got from your parents and you know, like, oh, yeah,
(03:50):
this is for sure from my mom, or this is
for sure from my dad.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
The first thing that came to mind is the way
I walk when I'm cold. My mom like hunches over
and my family's always made fun of her for doing that.
But I do that when I'm cold, and so now
they've started to make fun of me and you but jover. Yeah,
I want to hear this list because that probably will
drop my memory.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I think that there are things we do that maybe
mimic how our parents behave, like that, like in cold
weather or something that they did. But this is this
is like some deep stuff, like how you react when
you're angry, afraid, or frustrated.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yes, my mom's super stubborn and I had to work
on my stubborness. I still have to work on that.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
How you treat other people. I think what comes to
mind for me because my dad owned restaurants, and my
mom while they were married too, Like he had a
restaurant named after my mom her maiden name. It was
called Christopher's, and I would go there when I was little.
But also just you know, when I was a teenager,
i'd been spring break with my dad and I would
(04:48):
go host us at the restaurant, or i'd be up
there with him or in mister Gaddy's and walk around.
And I saw how my dad treated the people at
the restaurant and how a true to everybody this like,
no matter what level they were, And I really liked
having that as an example. But then too, when I
(05:08):
go out to eat, I try to be aware of
they could be having a really bad day, if they
behave a certain way or have something going on. I
try to just remember because I know, like my dad
had certain things going on, and he would still have
to go in and go to work. And when you're
in customer service, you have to put on your game
face and get after it. And so I was thankful
to have that example. And I'm not saying like I'm
(05:29):
always perfect. Maybe sometimes I'm cold or shut off and
I'm not meaning to be out to eat, but I
try to have that same attitude in those environments like
my dad had, because the service industry can be hard.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, And I like this list is like, it's not
just like negative traits that you get from your parents.
It's all the good things too. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I mean it could be that you treat people like
crap when you're out to eat, or they don't tip well,
or you know they're very demanding, they snap their fingers,
Oh gosh, how you handle mistakes and failure, how you
apologize when you're wrong. And I would say a big
one there too, is that you even apologize.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Or even acknowledged feelings.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
And then you're wrong. Yeah, because I think that that's
been something that's been really beautiful in our relationship with
our kids, for both me and Ben, is the ability
to look at them and say, hey, in this moment,
I was completely wrong. Oh as a parent, I messed.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Up, like to your kids versus like to each other
in general. Oh. That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
And I don't know that that was necessarily modeled for us,
because I feel like our generation sometimes it was like, well,
whatever the parent says goes, and I just kind of
continued on that track. But there have been times where
the kids have even like maybe said something, Oh well
you said this, well, oh hey, I actually need to
back up, like it wasn't right for me to say that.
That's if that's how I said it, and that's or
(06:50):
that's how you heard it, Like I should have said
it this way, or I should have never said that
at all.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I'm thinking about how that translates to them and as
they grow up, do they take on that trade or
do they take onto the trade of they just allow
other people to they believe what they say, like authority
figures have the final say, and they won't stand up
for themselves and stuff like that. The way that came
to my brain is I was thinking at work as
a therapist. I say, in my first sessions with people,
(07:15):
I want you to know that I'm not always going
to be right. And if I say something or do something,
whether it's I make a face or I infer something
and it's not right, or if it's not correct or
you don't like it, you're allowed to let me know,
Like you're allowed to tell me. And I think that
a lot of people will have trouble doing that because
of what you're saying. Parents say, I'm the parent. What
(07:36):
I say goes and as we get into jobs and
we get into different places in our lives where there's authority,
that authority feels very much like it's my way or
the highway. So that's like a new thing. So that's
a huge deal that as a parent you're modeling that,
because I don't think a lot of people get that.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Well, I'm thankful whatever therapist or something. Ben and I
went through like we had a major shift where I
think like when we started parenting, we were sort of
that just yeah, how it was, and then we definitely
had a shift where it's like, oh, it's okay, and
it's actually going to be better for them when we
show that we've messed up and be that model an
(08:14):
example for them. Let's see how you stand up for
yourself and others, how you solve problems, how you ask
for help when you're struggling, how you take care of yourself,
how you embrace differences and opinions, beliefs, preferences, et cetera.
How you solve disagreements, how you listen to others, how
(08:39):
well you take care of the environment, and how well
you treat animals. Oh well, well, y'all don't know, because
I'm sure Houston cut it out is My dog is
in here with us right now and she is making
so much noise and I just had to yell at her.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
You're being so sweet to her now, I know.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Because I realized, like, Okay, if you're being quiet, I'll
pay your head and I will treat you well because
she was being so annoying a minute ago. What are your.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Kids do when she does that around them? Whatever?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I just did.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Shut out, Yeah, which is not helpful at all whatsoever.
But if they ever behave that way in public towards
an animal love ad But yeah, that's just a list
of lifelong behaviors that kids are picking up from us.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
So make sure whether it's your kids or your niece
or your nephew, or be aware any kiddo's in your life,
be aware. And they're so impressionable, impressionable, impressionable.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Do you like that word?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
You can't feel it's away now, it's just feeling weird
to me. Impressionable impressionable are the.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Word we were trying to say the other day on
the phone when I was like, it looks omnimous.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
What is that wordonymous? Omnious, ominous, ominous, ominous? Spell it
o m uh huh I got oh m I n
o us portending what it says? It's poortending evil or harm,
(10:12):
forbidding threatening dark clouds.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yes, dark clouds.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah it was it was dark outside and Kat was like, oh,
the clouds say look onymous And then we could not
figure out the word, but we got there. It's ominous.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Wait ominous Okay, I keep wanted to go omnimous. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
But also, I don't know that I've ever used the
word portending.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I've never heard of that word. Maybe they'd a type
out pretending.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
You know how we do quotes on every fifth thing episode,
maybe a word of the week portending to be a
sign or warning that something usually bad or unpleasant, is
going to happen portending. So poortend is a word to
indicate in advance, to foreshadow.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Wait is portending bad?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
It says present Kara, you said it with a smile
on your faces. So it's to indicate in advance.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
It doesn't have to be bad. It didn't have to
be like portending my period.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Okay, how do you use portend in a sentence? The
distant thunder portended a stormy if you're superstitious, A black
cat portends trouble.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I have a question. When you are talking to somebody
and they use a word that you don't understand, do
you say what or do you just act like you
know what they're talking about?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
It depends on my environment. How safey okay? Look, sometimes
something is said on the show and I'll pause and
ask someone may poke fun of you, but then someone's
also going to have your back of like remember what
we say. Like sometimes if you've never heard a word,
like you've only read it, you have it in your
mind of how you think it goes, but you've never
(12:01):
heard it out loud, So then when you say it
out loud for the first time, you may say it different.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
What if they're talking about like an event in history
or like something that it feels like it should be
common knowledge but you don't know it. Do you acknowledge
that or do you pretend like you know what they're
talking about?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
No, what happens to me every Friday when we play
easy trivia. Oh, it's like questions to some of the
easiest things, and for whatever reason, sometimes your brain can't
recall it. And it honestly depends on the day, because
some days I'll know that answer, no problem and the
days I'm.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Like, oh, shoot, do you know who the second president was?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
John Adams? Okay, do you know who the eighth president was?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Martin Van Buren?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
He's your in law?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
He basically is, yeah, yeah, So I'm like, Royalty, I think.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
You married into the van Buren family. Do you think
Patrick knew that your family had a place in the
Outer Banks. That's why.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
It's basically the same as being a descendant of a president.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, So there's that environment. I'm just
used to it there. But if I don't know, like
in a group of friends, I might, But if I'm
on a date, on a date, maybe I still would.
But I'm thinking, like if I was at a dinner
with executives, I'm probably not asking that question. That's what
I mean by oh, I got it. I'm gonna act
(13:11):
like I know exactly what they're saying and I'm gonna
google it later.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Do you know what is included in the UK? I
think I've asked you this before.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
The United Kingdom? Yeah country?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
What country is that?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
England? Yes?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Okay, this is confusing. The UK is not England. United
Kingdom is like England, Scotland, Northern Ireland, you're looking at
me like I'm crazy. United Kingdom is like England, Scotland,
(13:48):
Northern Ireland. You're looking at me like I'm crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
No, now I need to google. I'm not looking at
you like you're crazy.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
We talked about this, and the only reason I know
is because I was watching Harry Potter and there were
different accents and I was like, where is this located? Okay?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
How many states are in the UK? England does not
have states? What's that? What you do? But if I
say countries?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Countries?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Oh yeah, yeah, I meant countries. I knew that, so
obviously I said that a second ago. We're walking people
through this right now in case they play trivia this weekend.
Then they're going to get this question right. Okay, England, Scotland,
Wales and Northern Ireland. I almost got it right.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I was just missing whales.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
So this is how you're going to remember it, guys,
when this trivia question comes up. First of all, you're
going to know that Martin van Buren was eighth president. Okay,
You're also going to know what portend means. And then
when the question comes about the United Kingdom, because this
is the fourth Things podcast, Yes, you're listening to the
fifth Thing right now, but don't get confused. It's the
(14:51):
four Things podcasts. So there are four countries, not states
in the UK England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Which is confusing because who knew that Northern Ireland was
its own country? Is there a Southern Ireland or a
regular Ireland? Is there Ireland in Northern Ireland? I guess so?
And at the Olympics is it Ireland in Northern Ireland
or is it Ireland in the UK. That's too much anyway.
I just think that's really interesting. I didn't know that
until like two years ago, and you didn't know until today.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Okay, So England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland are the UK
and Great Britain the same. No, right, Great Britain is
a large island on which most of England, Scotland and
Wales are located. Listen, I'm just too much. Yeah, I
would rather understand geography here in America, which I struggle
(15:44):
with at times. Can you name all the states? No?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
I tried to do this one day and I thought
for sure I couldn't. It was actually really hard.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I know the song, but I only know part of
it Illinois, So where Florida. I know that there's Alaska, Alabama.
I just know that part of the song goes Illinois, Indiana.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
That's like somebody who starts to outfit in the middle
of like ELEMENTOPI.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinoian.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I was twitching as you got to that part.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
We've done that on the show before. We've like set
a timer and you can write down as many states
as you possibly can, and then you could see who
got the most.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
If you had a map, could you put the states
in the right box?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
You get a little tricky in the Midwest, Yeah, oh yeah, Texas,
I'd get born and raised there.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
California is pretty obvious.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
California, Florida, I mean up there, honestly, the first thirteen colonies,
Well that's tricky. Yeah, that'd be really tricky. So like
the Midwest, but I would get Oklahoma, Colorado Can'tyeah, probab
we do most of it. What about the planets? Can
you name all the planets?
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Is there a song for this?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
My very energetic oh just served us nine pizzas. Say again,
my very energetic mother just served us nine pizzas. Earth
is third rock from the Sun. So that's easy.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
But oh, that's why that show is called that, Yeah,
because it.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Goes my very energetic So the m is Mercury venus Earth.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
If you would have asked me that, I would have
said Mars first, but that can't be because then nobody
could live there.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I'm going to pourtend that I'm right, not that people
live on Mars. I'm pretty sure it's mercury.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I have to stop talking.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I'm even doing seventh grade math with my son right now,
and other parents, you've got to feel me on this,
Like even with this stuff like the states and the
planets and stuff that we learned a long time ago,
and fractions and math and the Roman Empire.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I was about to say the Roman Empire. I knew
everything about it in sixth grade.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Well, yeah, we're going through a lot of that right now,
and I'm like, huh, I had not retained this information.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I had to label an entire map of the countries
of the world when I was in middle school, and
I could do it.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Can you name the continents? First of all? How many
are there?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Seven?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Boom? Nailed it? Okay, what are they?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Oh? No, Australia, Africa, Asia, Northern America.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
North America, yeah, okay, South South America, Europe, yeah, Antarctica seven.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
You did it.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I did it.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
North America, North America.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
I was thinking about Northern Ireland, duh, obviously, which is
a part.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Of the UK. You're welcome everybody for this lesson.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Like, I bet you didn't know you're going to leave
here smarter than you arrived. I think that a lot
of parents can relate to school being back in session
and just staring at some of the homework and being like,
I don't even know. I don't know, and you gotta
give yourself grace, thank you, chat GPT.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
What did our parents do?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I am not sure. Encyclopedia, ignore us, ignore US higher tutor.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I don't know, because there wasn't even internet to like
google stuff. They just looked at our textbook. Do your
kids have textbooks still or is it all like on
a Now.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
It's all on the computer. Is crazy schooligee?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
So they don't need like lockers and stuff because you
just have an iPad.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
No, I mean they have binders with printouts, but it's
also online too.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Kids don't have textbooks.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
My kids don't. But on that note, I saw this
funny meme about how kids these days will never know
what it's like to get a textbook and look at
who had it the year before.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Oh yeah, i'd see if it was like a popular
person or like your crush. Yeah, it's like I have
so and So's book.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Or making book covers and decorating them.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, that was fun. Did you have like the stretchy
ones like that they're almost like pantyhose and you can
get like different colors.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, we do that, but mostly I would make mine
like with like wrap paperback or brown paper and then
you would color all over it.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, that's what the d is.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
They'll never know they can put brown paper bags on
their iPads.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
But you know what, sometimes I'm thinking through whenever we're
rereading through some of the stuff which I get, you know,
the Roman Empire of some of the math, like history
we need to learn about that. It's important, But there's
some stuff where I'm like, this is just not necessary.
It's really not And I would like to like what
certain math problems, certain math problems like Sally with her
two and a half yards that she bought for fifteen
(20:31):
dollars and show your work, and it's like it says
you can use a calculator, but you must show your work.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
That's the part that And I'm like, yep, because my
dad used to I was telling you this. My dad
used to always help me with my math homework and
I would always end up in tears and he would
do it and he would get the right answer, but
he wouldn't do his work the right way, and I
had to show my work and if I showed his work,
I would get it wrong. But he was like, but
I got the right answer, I said, but you didn't
(20:58):
do it right, and so what is the point of that?
Like you have to do it this exact way and
show that.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah, and whatever way they were teaching, Like I just
then I went to chat GBT and asked for it
to break it down for me, and it did and
I was like, Okay, yeah, that makes sense because I
mean I can get to the answer just in my
head by looking like, oh, that's.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Six, because because you're a human calculator, I do the.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Math too, But can you ask so that that's just
from life experience, because I've gone to the fabric store
before and spent fifteen dollars on this much.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
You're like, oh, I'm Sally, but then I don't.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
But I don't know how to explain to him how
I got there, especially taking the two and a half,
Like I know that's a two point five, but can
you has to work out how you got to the
point five from the half, like you have to take
the fraction.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Can you. I'm new to chat shebta to started using
it like two weeks ago. Can you say, can you
show my work?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
And it will show you yes. Oh my god, Like
so okay, that's gonna turn us into you.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Need to utilize chat gbt because it'll give you the answer,
which is helpful. But then if you say to it,
I need you to break this down for me, then
it breaks it all down.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
But how are they like going to crack down on
cheating and stuff because chatchebt can write a paper for you,
like chatchebt can do your homework for you.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That's scary, Like we had to do like turn it
in dot com and stuff like that to see if
we copied it from the internet. But now, like I
feel like you'd say chatgybt write this like I would
say it, and it could like know you.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
So what are you using CHATGBT for are you like CHATGEBT?
I had a client come in today, What should I say?
She's having this problem? How do I fix her?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
No, but I would be interested in what it would say.
But I started using it when I was trying to
update my website for like SEO stuff, like search engine stuff,
and I would use it to help me write little
blurbs on my website that will help get my website
seen more often. But you know what I thought, And
(23:07):
now I'm like, you could use this to like write
a cover letter, and there's so many things you could
do with this. But I thought to myself, this is
frustrating because the way I want to say it, that's
my personality, is not chat GBT. I'm sure if you
had an account, it would get to know you or something.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I think so, but I don't have one. I don't know.
I'm just using the universal one. I mean, maybe you
get one that, yeah, starts to talk like you write
like you BEU.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
That's scary. It is scary. So that's why I like
didn't use it for so long. But then it's boring stuff,
so I won't get into it. But like, that's what
the world is coming to on website stuff. So I
was like, well, I have to use AI, so here
we go. I have to run my business. So I caved.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
You caved, all right, Kat? Where can people find.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
You on Instagram? At Cat dot Defada and at You
Need Therapy podcast.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Except for your Cat van Buren.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Oh my gosh, it's at Cat van Buren, the.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Eighth President of the United States.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Well, the great great, great great great great cousin granddaughter
of in law. Yeah, in law.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Hi, I'm at Radio Amy and I'll see you on
Thursday for four Things. And Cat's episodes they load up
every Monday and every Wednesday, so go check them out.
A lot of really amazing interviews up there, just topics,
just you. Couch Talks is what they're called.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Obviously.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Their podcast is trying to think of the name of
your Q and a one where you take listener questions
and it's called couch Talks, which I think is super
cute because you're a therapist and there's couch Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Thanks, bye bye.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Carra shut up. I can't even think she's over here, Like,
lay down, lay down, Carra, Stop Cara, Cara, Carra Okay,
and then you just smile your back and get into
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the character of Kat talking about our classes.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Okay ha ha ha ha go away.
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Kat and our quote today is from Nina Songbody, I.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Sit over side.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
In A I N A S A N G h
V I.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I couldn't put those letters together in my head.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hooked on phonics worked for me. I do not know,
but I really like this quote. The three seeds of life, choice, chances,
and changes. You must make a choice to take a
chance or your life will never change.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
What is that song, Make a choice, make a change.
That's a Kelly Clarkson song. Maybe those aren't the words
and breakaway something like that. Well, there you go.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Maybe she strikes with Nina.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Kelly.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
If you're listening, I love that song.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Maybe Nina is a co writer. Maybe that song and
Brey you don't talk about. Yes, Kelly Clarkson has some jams,
for sure. I also saw this other quote, and I
don't know who it's from. I just saw it. But
it's learned your place in people's lives so you don't
end up overplaying your part.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Say that again, learn your.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Place in people's lives so you don't end up overplaying
your parts. Oh that's good, Boom, that is good. I
also don't know who said this one, but we're gonna
throw it out here. It's unknown, a little fun one.
I bet it's called almond milk because no one can
say nut juice with a straight face.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
You texted me that one, and you just texted me
that with no contexts, and I was like, wait, who
said that? And you're like nobody.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, could you imagine I'll take a latte? What kind
of milk? Would you like? Nut juice? I mean, that's
what it is.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
But if we were saying that more often, we probably
would get used to it.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Right, Like we say apple juice, but it.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Is juice because it's squeezed out of the nuts.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Did you ever see the infomercial at late night the
guy with the nut chopper and he'd be chopping the nuts,
and like while he'd be chopping it, he'd go, you're
gonna love my nuts.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
But there's a nutplace in the Outer Banks that we
used to vacation at and they had a nut shop
called try my Nuts.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Like as a.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Kid, Yeah, we had a house growing up. My grandparents
bought it. We used to go every summer.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
You're like, Nicholas Sparks or something.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, but I haven't been since college, but we're going
back this July. My older brother organized a trip for ust.
I'll go back.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
My dad's side of the family is having a family
reunion this fall. Are you thankful for family members that
organize things?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah? Wait? Also, why would I be like Nicholas Sparks.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Don't his books take place in the Outer Banks?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I have no idea. I was just thinking, like, oh, romance,
like a love story is what I think about. And
I'm like, Yeah. When I was going to the Outer Banks,
I was wearing like glasses with like a those like
I mean, like connection things. In case I was swimming
in the ocean, I lost my glasses, they would float
and I was like boogie boarding. I had like a
live Greenes swim suit. I didn't have a vacation boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
But I bet if you went back later, it'd be
like the summer. I turn pretty Wait, that was like
my life.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Really, I don't know. I guess I'm we're in contacts now,
so that could like change my whole life. Like a
dozen of movies, when somebody gets some glasses to contacts,
I become like a whole new person.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, thinking of us being kids, are there things that
your parents did and you picked up that behavior from them,
because I have a list of lifelong behaviors that kids
pick up from us. Ooh, and for me as a parent,
I'm like, oh, okay, but is there something you ever
got from your parents and you know, like, oh, yeah,
(03:50):
this is for sure from my mom, or this is
for sure from my dad.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
The first thing that came to mind is the way
I walk when I'm cold. My mom like hunches over
and my family's always made fun of her for doing that.
But I do that when I'm cold, and so now
they've started to make fun of me and you but jover. Yeah,
I want to hear this list because that probably will
drop my memory.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I think that there are things we do that maybe
mimic how our parents behave, like that, like in cold
weather or something that they did. But this is this
is like some deep stuff, like how you react when
you're angry, afraid, or frustrated.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yes, my mom's super stubborn and I had to work
on my stubborness. I still have to work on that.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
How you treat other people. I think what comes to
mind for me because my dad owned restaurants, and my
mom while they were married too, Like he had a
restaurant named after my mom her maiden name. It was
called Christopher's, and I would go there when I was little.
But also just you know, when I was a teenager,
i'd been spring break with my dad and I would
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go host us at the restaurant, or i'd be up
there with him or in mister Gaddy's and walk around.
And I saw how my dad treated the people at
the restaurant and how a true to everybody this like,
no matter what level they were, And I really liked
having that as an example. But then too, when I
(05:08):
go out to eat, I try to be aware of
they could be having a really bad day, if they
behave a certain way or have something going on. I
try to just remember because I know, like my dad
had certain things going on, and he would still have
to go in and go to work. And when you're
in customer service, you have to put on your game
face and get after it. And so I was thankful
to have that example. And I'm not saying like I'm
(05:29):
always perfect. Maybe sometimes I'm cold or shut off and
I'm not meaning to be out to eat, but I
try to have that same attitude in those environments like
my dad had, because the service industry can be hard.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, And I like this list is like, it's not
just like negative traits that you get from your parents.
It's all the good things too. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I mean it could be that you treat people like
crap when you're out to eat, or they don't tip well,
or you know they're very demanding, they snap their fingers,
Oh gosh, how you handle mistakes and failure, how you
apologize when you're wrong. And I would say a big
one there too, is that you even apologize.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Or even acknowledged feelings.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
And then you're wrong. Yeah, because I think that that's
been something that's been really beautiful in our relationship with
our kids, for both me and Ben, is the ability
to look at them and say, hey, in this moment,
I was completely wrong. Oh as a parent, I messed.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Up, like to your kids versus like to each other
in general. Oh. That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
And I don't know that that was necessarily modeled for us,
because I feel like our generation sometimes it was like, well,
whatever the parent says goes, and I just kind of
continued on that track. But there have been times where
the kids have even like maybe said something, Oh well
you said this, well, oh hey, I actually need to
back up, like it wasn't right for me to say that.
That's if that's how I said it, and that's or
(06:50):
that's how you heard it, Like I should have said
it this way, or I should have never said that
at all.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I'm thinking about how that translates to them and as
they grow up, do they take on that trade or
do they take onto the trade of they just allow
other people to they believe what they say, like authority
figures have the final say, and they won't stand up
for themselves and stuff like that. The way that came
to my brain is I was thinking at work as
a therapist. I say, in my first sessions with people,
(07:15):
I want you to know that I'm not always going
to be right. And if I say something or do something,
whether it's I make a face or I infer something
and it's not right, or if it's not correct or
you don't like it, you're allowed to let me know,
Like you're allowed to tell me. And I think that
a lot of people will have trouble doing that because
of what you're saying. Parents say, I'm the parent. What
(07:36):
I say goes and as we get into jobs and
we get into different places in our lives where there's authority,
that authority feels very much like it's my way or
the highway. So that's like a new thing. So that's
a huge deal that as a parent you're modeling that,
because I don't think a lot of people get that.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Well, I'm thankful whatever therapist or something. Ben and I
went through like we had a major shift where I
think like when we started parenting, we were sort of
that just yeah, how it was, and then we definitely
had a shift where it's like, oh, it's okay, and
it's actually going to be better for them when we
show that we've messed up and be that model an
(08:14):
example for them. Let's see how you stand up for
yourself and others, how you solve problems, how you ask
for help when you're struggling, how you take care of yourself,
how you embrace differences and opinions, beliefs, preferences, et cetera.
How you solve disagreements, how you listen to others, how
(08:39):
well you take care of the environment, and how well
you treat animals. Oh well, well, y'all don't know, because
I'm sure Houston cut it out is My dog is
in here with us right now and she is making
so much noise and I just had to yell at her.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
You're being so sweet to her now, I know.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Because I realized, like, Okay, if you're being quiet, I'll
pay your head and I will treat you well because
she was being so annoying a minute ago. What are your.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Kids do when she does that around them? Whatever?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I just did.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Shut out, Yeah, which is not helpful at all whatsoever.
But if they ever behave that way in public towards
an animal love ad But yeah, that's just a list
of lifelong behaviors that kids are picking up from us.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
So make sure whether it's your kids or your niece
or your nephew, or be aware any kiddo's in your life,
be aware. And they're so impressionable, impressionable, impressionable.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Do you like that word?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
You can't feel it's away now, it's just feeling weird
to me. Impressionable impressionable are the.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Word we were trying to say the other day on
the phone when I was like, it looks omnimous.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
What is that wordonymous? Omnious, ominous, ominous, ominous? Spell it
o m uh huh I got oh m I n
o us portending what it says? It's poortending evil or harm,
(10:12):
forbidding threatening dark clouds.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yes, dark clouds.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah it was it was dark outside and Kat was like, oh,
the clouds say look onymous And then we could not
figure out the word, but we got there. It's ominous.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Wait ominous Okay, I keep wanted to go omnimous. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
But also, I don't know that I've ever used the
word portending.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I've never heard of that word. Maybe they'd a type
out pretending.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
You know how we do quotes on every fifth thing episode,
maybe a word of the week portending to be a
sign or warning that something usually bad or unpleasant, is
going to happen portending. So poortend is a word to
indicate in advance, to foreshadow.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Wait is portending bad?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
It says present Kara, you said it with a smile
on your faces. So it's to indicate in advance.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
It doesn't have to be bad. It didn't have to
be like portending my period.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Okay, how do you use portend in a sentence? The
distant thunder portended a stormy if you're superstitious, A black
cat portends trouble.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I have a question. When you are talking to somebody
and they use a word that you don't understand, do
you say what or do you just act like you
know what they're talking about?
Speaker 1 (11:41):
It depends on my environment. How safey okay? Look, sometimes
something is said on the show and I'll pause and
ask someone may poke fun of you, but then someone's
also going to have your back of like remember what
we say. Like sometimes if you've never heard a word,
like you've only read it, you have it in your
mind of how you think it goes, but you've never
(12:01):
heard it out loud, So then when you say it
out loud for the first time, you may say it different.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
What if they're talking about like an event in history
or like something that it feels like it should be
common knowledge but you don't know it. Do you acknowledge
that or do you pretend like you know what they're
talking about?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
No, what happens to me every Friday when we play
easy trivia. Oh, it's like questions to some of the
easiest things, and for whatever reason, sometimes your brain can't
recall it. And it honestly depends on the day, because
some days I'll know that answer, no problem and the
days I'm.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Like, oh, shoot, do you know who the second president was?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
John Adams? Okay, do you know who the eighth president was?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Martin Van Buren?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
He's your in law?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
He basically is, yeah, yeah, So I'm like, Royalty, I think.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
You married into the van Buren family. Do you think
Patrick knew that your family had a place in the
Outer Banks. That's why.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
It's basically the same as being a descendant of a president.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, So there's that environment. I'm just
used to it there. But if I don't know, like
in a group of friends, I might, But if I'm
on a date, on a date, maybe I still would.
But I'm thinking, like if I was at a dinner
with executives, I'm probably not asking that question. That's what
I mean by oh, I got it. I'm gonna act
(13:11):
like I know exactly what they're saying and I'm gonna
google it later.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Do you know what is included in the UK? I
think I've asked you this before.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
The United Kingdom? Yeah country?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
What country is that?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
England? Yes?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Okay, this is confusing. The UK is not England. United
Kingdom is like England, Scotland, Northern Ireland, you're looking at
me like I'm crazy. United Kingdom is like England, Scotland,
(13:48):
Northern Ireland. You're looking at me like I'm crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
No, now I need to google. I'm not looking at
you like you're crazy.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
We talked about this, and the only reason I know
is because I was watching Harry Potter and there were
different accents and I was like, where is this located? Okay?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
How many states are in the UK? England does not
have states? What's that? What you do? But if I
say countries?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Countries?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Oh yeah, yeah, I meant countries. I knew that, so
obviously I said that a second ago. We're walking people
through this right now in case they play trivia this weekend.
Then they're going to get this question right. Okay, England, Scotland,
Wales and Northern Ireland. I almost got it right.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
I was just missing whales.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
So this is how you're going to remember it, guys,
when this trivia question comes up. First of all, you're
going to know that Martin van Buren was eighth president. Okay,
You're also going to know what portend means. And then
when the question comes about the United Kingdom, because this
is the fourth Things podcast, Yes, you're listening to the
fifth Thing right now, but don't get confused. It's the
(14:51):
four Things podcasts. So there are four countries, not states
in the UK England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Which is confusing because who knew that Northern Ireland was
its own country? Is there a Southern Ireland or a
regular Ireland? Is there Ireland in Northern Ireland? I guess so?
And at the Olympics is it Ireland in Northern Ireland
or is it Ireland in the UK. That's too much anyway.
I just think that's really interesting. I didn't know that
until like two years ago, and you didn't know until today.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Okay, So England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland are the UK
and Great Britain the same. No, right, Great Britain is
a large island on which most of England, Scotland and
Wales are located. Listen, I'm just too much. Yeah, I
would rather understand geography here in America, which I struggle
(15:44):
with at times. Can you name all the states? No?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
I tried to do this one day and I thought
for sure I couldn't. It was actually really hard.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I know the song, but I only know part of
it Illinois, So where Florida. I know that there's Alaska, Alabama.
I just know that part of the song goes Illinois, Indiana.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
That's like somebody who starts to outfit in the middle
of like ELEMENTOPI.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinoian.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I was twitching as you got to that part.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
We've done that on the show before. We've like set
a timer and you can write down as many states
as you possibly can, and then you could see who
got the most.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
If you had a map, could you put the states
in the right box?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
You get a little tricky in the Midwest, Yeah, oh yeah, Texas,
I'd get born and raised there.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
California is pretty obvious.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
California, Florida, I mean up there, honestly, the first thirteen colonies,
Well that's tricky. Yeah, that'd be really tricky. So like
the Midwest, but I would get Oklahoma, Colorado Can'tyeah, probab
we do most of it. What about the planets? Can
you name all the planets?
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Is there a song for this?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
My very energetic oh just served us nine pizzas. Say again,
my very energetic mother just served us nine pizzas. Earth
is third rock from the Sun. So that's easy.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
But oh, that's why that show is called that, Yeah,
because it.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Goes my very energetic So the m is Mercury venus Earth.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
If you would have asked me that, I would have
said Mars first, but that can't be because then nobody
could live there.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I'm going to pourtend that I'm right, not that people
live on Mars. I'm pretty sure it's mercury.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I have to stop talking.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I'm even doing seventh grade math with my son right now,
and other parents, you've got to feel me on this,
Like even with this stuff like the states and the
planets and stuff that we learned a long time ago,
and fractions and math and the Roman Empire.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
I was about to say the Roman Empire. I knew
everything about it in sixth grade.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Well, yeah, we're going through a lot of that right now,
and I'm like, huh, I had not retained this information.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I had to label an entire map of the countries
of the world when I was in middle school, and
I could do it.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Can you name the continents? First of all? How many
are there?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Seven?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Boom? Nailed it? Okay, what are they?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Oh? No, Australia, Africa, Asia, Northern America.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
North America, yeah, okay, South South America, Europe, yeah, Antarctica seven.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
You did it.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I did it.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
North America, North America.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
I was thinking about Northern Ireland, duh, obviously, which is
a part.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Of the UK. You're welcome everybody for this lesson.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Like, I bet you didn't know you're going to leave
here smarter than you arrived. I think that a lot
of parents can relate to school being back in session
and just staring at some of the homework and being like,
I don't even know. I don't know, and you gotta
give yourself grace, thank you, chat GPT.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
What did our parents do?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I am not sure. Encyclopedia, ignore us, ignore US higher tutor.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I don't know, because there wasn't even internet to like
google stuff. They just looked at our textbook. Do your
kids have textbooks still or is it all like on
a Now.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
It's all on the computer. Is crazy schooligee?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
So they don't need like lockers and stuff because you
just have an iPad.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
No, I mean they have binders with printouts, but it's
also online too.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Kids don't have textbooks.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
My kids don't. But on that note, I saw this
funny meme about how kids these days will never know
what it's like to get a textbook and look at
who had it the year before.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Oh yeah, i'd see if it was like a popular
person or like your crush. Yeah, it's like I have
so and So's book.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Or making book covers and decorating them.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, that was fun. Did you have like the stretchy
ones like that they're almost like pantyhose and you can
get like different colors.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, we do that, but mostly I would make mine
like with like wrap paperback or brown paper and then
you would color all over it.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, that's what the d is.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
They'll never know they can put brown paper bags on
their iPads.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
But you know what, sometimes I'm thinking through whenever we're
rereading through some of the stuff which I get, you know,
the Roman Empire of some of the math, like history
we need to learn about that. It's important, But there's
some stuff where I'm like, this is just not necessary.
It's really not And I would like to like what
certain math problems, certain math problems like Sally with her
two and a half yards that she bought for fifteen
(20:31):
dollars and show your work, and it's like it says
you can use a calculator, but you must show your work.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
That's the part that And I'm like, yep, because my
dad used to I was telling you this. My dad
used to always help me with my math homework and
I would always end up in tears and he would
do it and he would get the right answer, but
he wouldn't do his work the right way, and I
had to show my work and if I showed his work,
I would get it wrong. But he was like, but
I got the right answer, I said, but you didn't
(20:58):
do it right, and so what is the point of that?
Like you have to do it this exact way and
show that.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah, and whatever way they were teaching, Like I just
then I went to chat GBT and asked for it
to break it down for me, and it did and
I was like, Okay, yeah, that makes sense because I
mean I can get to the answer just in my
head by looking like, oh, that's.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Six, because because you're a human calculator, I do the.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Math too, But can you ask so that that's just
from life experience, because I've gone to the fabric store
before and spent fifteen dollars on this much.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
You're like, oh, I'm Sally, but then I don't.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
But I don't know how to explain to him how
I got there, especially taking the two and a half,
Like I know that's a two point five, but can
you has to work out how you got to the
point five from the half, like you have to take
the fraction.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Can you. I'm new to chat shebta to started using
it like two weeks ago. Can you say, can you
show my work?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
And it will show you yes. Oh my god, Like
so okay, that's gonna turn us into you.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Need to utilize chat gbt because it'll give you the answer,
which is helpful. But then if you say to it,
I need you to break this down for me, then
it breaks it all down.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
But how are they like going to crack down on
cheating and stuff because chatchebt can write a paper for you,
like chatchebt can do your homework for you.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That's scary, Like we had to do like turn it
in dot com and stuff like that to see if
we copied it from the internet. But now, like I
feel like you'd say chatgybt write this like I would
say it, and it could like know you.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
So what are you using CHATGBT for are you like CHATGEBT?
I had a client come in today, What should I say?
She's having this problem? How do I fix her?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
No, but I would be interested in what it would say.
But I started using it when I was trying to
update my website for like SEO stuff, like search engine stuff,
and I would use it to help me write little
blurbs on my website that will help get my website
seen more often. But you know what I thought, And
(23:07):
now I'm like, you could use this to like write
a cover letter, and there's so many things you could
do with this. But I thought to myself, this is
frustrating because the way I want to say it, that's
my personality, is not chat GBT. I'm sure if you
had an account, it would get to know you or something.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I think so, but I don't have one. I don't know.
I'm just using the universal one. I mean, maybe you
get one that, yeah, starts to talk like you write
like you BEU.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
That's scary. It is scary. So that's why I like
didn't use it for so long. But then it's boring stuff,
so I won't get into it. But like, that's what
the world is coming to on website stuff. So I
was like, well, I have to use AI, so here
we go. I have to run my business. So I caved.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
You caved, all right, Kat? Where can people find.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
You on Instagram? At Cat dot Defada and at You
Need Therapy podcast.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Except for your Cat van Buren.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Oh my gosh, it's at Cat van Buren, the.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Eighth President of the United States.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Well, the great great, great great great great cousin granddaughter
of in law. Yeah, in law.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Hi, I'm at Radio Amy and I'll see you on
Thursday for four Things. And Cat's episodes they load up
every Monday and every Wednesday, so go check them out.
A lot of really amazing interviews up there, just topics,
just you. Couch Talks is what they're called.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Obviously.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Their podcast is trying to think of the name of
your Q and a one where you take listener questions
and it's called couch Talks, which I think is super
cute because you're a therapist and there's couch Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Thanks, bye bye.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Carra shut up. I can't even think she's over here, Like,
lay down, lay down, Carra, Stop Cara, Cara, Carra Okay,
and then you just smile your back and get into
(25:07):
the character of Kat talking about our classes.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Okay ha ha ha ha go away.
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