Amy shares the cringey thing she did (and why being annoyed with yourself can actually be helpful), while Kat explains the psychology behind why we start using the same phrases as our closest friends. Plus: a listener’s bird encounter with a powerful message, brainspotting 101, and what Amy & Kat would say to get out of jury duty.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
All right, break it down.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
If you ever have feelings that you just won't Amy
and Cat got your cob and locking a brother.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Ladies and folks, do you just follow an the spirit where.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It's all the front over real stuff to the chill
stuff and the.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
M but Swayne, sometimes the best thing you can do
it just stop you feel things.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
This is feeling things with Amy and Kat Happy Tuesday,
feeling things. I'm Amy and I'm Kat, and I'm obsessed
with the word that you taught me.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I know what you're gonna say. How do you know
because you've been saying it?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Say it sick sick. Yeah, I really have been using
it all the time, like your videos you've been making
for our social stuff, which Kat will make the videos
and then you mostly post Instagram, but sometimes I do too.
I post a TikTok and then I don't know how
it's getting to Facebook, but it's supposed to just cross join,
(01:01):
but I don't know that we've totally SYNCD up. Well
either way, the videos are sick, poset videos, sick, Yes, sick.
My lunch today sick. I had chicken and bananas.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Were just telling me like a baby's lunch, right, So
sick could be confusing with that, because I'm saying it
was sick like awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I want to eat it again. I'm very into all
kinds of salty sweet things right now, Like I want
dates in my ground.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Beef that actually sounds good.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Dates in my eggs.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I'm telling you I'm not eating the eggs though.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Okay, don't eat the eggs. You can even just take
a date and pan fry it and some gee or
butter like put that in the skillet and then cut
the date open and then smash it flat. Looks like
a little little cockroach and then it's so good.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I can't wait to try it. Sick, sick. You know
what's sick is that there is at True Food, the
cauliflower is cauliflower, pistachios and dates. I love so good, yes,
which is a good combination.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I've always enjoyed that, so I don't know why for
years now, after eating that appetizer at True Food, I
haven't incorporated more dates into my diet until now.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
But now I'm eating like two dates a day. You're
do you think you're gonna get tired of it? No? Okay,
well I'm gonna check in with you kind of like
I checked it around in the face Fitness. We'll see
if this is just like a food jag that you're
kind of in on, or if this is gonna be
a lasting relationship you have with dates.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Well, it could be the dates are giving me that
sweet with the salty, so because I'm mixing in, Like
today I did bananas with my chicken, and I think
that's the same vibe. It's salty sweet.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Are you eating a bite of chicken and a bite
of banana?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
And I put a banana on my fork and then
a piece of chicken on my fork, and then I
put in my mouth at the same time, chicken in bananas. Guys,
don't knock it?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Do you try it?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I'm telling you, Oh, sick, Which okay.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
The funny thing about sick is that the reason I
started saying it is because Patrick and I were at
Target and there was a young attendant. We were in
the checkout line and something messed out up. Why do
you look at me when I.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Said that she's an attendant? What are they called cashier?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
She was the check out Okay, so she was just
like attending to us, right, that.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Is what we will call her.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
She's an attendant, so something messed up, and then she
came over and helped us, and then when we were leaving,
she was like, did that end up working? And we go, yeah,
thank you, and she goes sick and we just got
a kick out of it, and so then we started
saying it kind of starcastically, but then we said it
enough that now that's really how we respond when something
good happens. The same thing happened with you. When I
(03:47):
first said it, you were like, why did you say that?
I did? I did make fun of you, and I said,
I think I told you that story, and then you
started saying it to me like jokingly. You would just respond,
and now it feels natural, right.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
That's why I wanted to share with you today that
you had won me over on the word sick. So
I'm influenced and I kind of thought maybe it was
a thing that's cool, But now I know the backstory
that it came from the attendant at Target, and so
now is it not cool?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I don't know it was cool. She was cool, she
was younger, she was on gen z. Okay, that's what
I think we got. We were like, oh my gosh,
we are so not in on like the lingo because
the girl was just like sick, but she said it
so naturally, and we were like, she's cool, and we're
like these I'm not old, but I just felt very
millennial in that moment. So we were jokingly trying to
say like the gen Z language. And now I think
(04:34):
gen Z's probably like, stop saying that.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So I'm going to say sick and I'm going to
add it. I'm trying to add in Sleigh.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I think Sleigh's over right.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Is it? I don't know. I feel like i'll ask
my daughter, Oh, she's eighteen, and then my boyfriend's daughter sixteen,
and she knows. She says low key a lot. I
was just low key tired, and so I've been trying to,
you know, relate to her because I want to bond
with her.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
And so this is a sick recipe. I want to
try it, and she's gonna be like low kienough, thanks.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I do we do bond over recipes on Instagram? I
will like, if I see a recipe, I'll send it
to her and I'll be like, we should make.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
This bonding over direct messages on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I didn't send her chicken and bananas that's my own recipe,
but I will ask my daughter because I like to
also bond with my daughter obviously, but she gets more
annoyed with me than my boyfriend's daughter because she can't
really express annoyance yet.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, I was gonna say, she's maybe with you, Okay,
So I actually looked this up because I feel like
this happens all the time. I've noticed that I've taken
on like phrases of my friends, and sometimes my friends
take on phrases from me, and then we start talking
the same. So this is actually a thing, and it's
called linguistic convergence, which is kind of hard to say,
(05:52):
and it's your brain's way of saying, I like you
and I want to be close to you. So I'm
low key going to start like you. And the closer
we are to someone, or the closer we want to
be to someone, the more that we do this, and
actually when you do that, that makes people feel good.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Well, and you and your husband y'all bonded over it,
because it's not that y'all were like, oh, we like you,
target attendant. It's like y'all started this thing of like
sick with each other and then it's like y'all gave
each other that energy and you like each other, and
now y'all do it, and now I do it because
I like you.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, And you'll notice there's phrases like in certain friend
groups that like we all say or we take from
each other. So I just thought that was interesting, like
why we do that because we like the person?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
That's a sign.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, okay, so you can't deny that you like me.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
True the facts facts, no printer. I feel like, do
kids say that I never fast? You know how fat?
I don't know?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Oh? Like fast? Fact?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
No printer?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Is that a thing?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I don't know. It just came out.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You made that up?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
No oh. I felt like I was regurgitating it from
cooler people than me, but.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
From the attending at attendant at Target.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Well look at it, we'll look it up. I do
know that you and I haven't always agreed. On TV
shows that were watching, like you were so into Severance
and you were like, look, if you don't like severance,
you're just people don't like severance are at a different level.
It's almost like you were implying I get it. So
I felt I did not say that. But feelings aren't facts.
But I felt that way. I felt sorry Stan, but
(07:22):
not in No, I'm joking, Okay, don't make a face.
I'm exaggerating my feelings. Okay, but I do feel like
is there something I'm missing? Like what do I not
get about severance? Because Bobby felt the same way when
we would talk about it on the show, like he
loved it.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
You have to think a lot and I did a
lot of like watching videos about it to really understand.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
You have to study to watch a show that.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I thought it was again, the first season was better
than the second.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
But yeah, yeah, okay. Shannon looked up fact snowprinner. It's
a slang phrase meaning that's undeniably true or I agree
with you. It's a way of emphasizing the truth, a
statement often used as a viral trend on platforms like
TikTok okay. So the phrase plays on the idea that
a fax machine, often found near printers, is used to
transmit information without requiring a physical print. Facts no printer
(08:16):
sick sick. Yeah. So I am curious what you're watching
right now? And then I have a TV assignment for
us like you and me both and our listeners. Okay,
and then I also have a little which TV personality
are you?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Quiz?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
The fun little quiz? Yeah, we're going to take So
what are we watching right now? And by we I
mean you and Patrick.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I'm going to be curious if we align on any
of these. So we just started this past weekend. Is
it Neighbors and Friends or Friends and Neighbors on Apple?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
On Apple TV Friends and Neighbors.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I started that too with and who's the other girl? Olivia?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yes? And and I really like it. I'm only two
episodes in, so we're okay. So we're both watching it
and we like it.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, okay, I'm liking it so far. I don't know
if I'll go back to it because I was busy
trying to watch all of Ransom Canyon. I don't know
what that is on Netflix with Josh Jumal and Minka Kelly.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I've never heard of this.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
A mixture of Yellowstone meets Landman because it takes place
in Texas, but like way cheesier. So I love it
like it's it's a Netflix.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
It's cheesy show. A little bit.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I watch drama cheesy.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I didn't watch Yellowstone or Landman.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
See, we don't align on that.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
And I tried to watch Ozark Ozark's Ozark. Yeah I didn't.
I got like maybe three or four episodes in and
then I couldn't get into it. But the friends and neighbors,
I will say, I have a hard time with shows
that give me anxiety, and that one starting to get
I'm not going to say anything because I don't want
to give it away, but I'm just.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Like, oh no, I'm that show. I feel like it's
so good.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Okay, So should I watch what was it.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Called Ransom Canyon?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
On Netflix? Give it a go. I'll try to see
what you think. Okay, re'port back, and then I'll give
us the assignment, the TV assignment after we figure out
our TV personalities.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
So I saw this on Instagram, and there's the critic.
This person feels obligated to watch all critically acclaimed shows.
That's not me, not me at all. The background Binger
watches shows while doing other tasks.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
That you watch shows. You carry your laptop around me
I do. That's why you didn't like Severance Pause. You
have to pay attention to it.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
There's the drama queen here for the drama. Reality TV
addict Cheese is welcomed and encouraged. That could be me
show repeater rewatches the same shows over and over for comfort.
I'm doing that right now with Sex and the City.
True crime junkie, fearless consumer of all things true crime,
knows a lot about serial killers.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I like, don't want to be that person. I like documentaries,
but I wouldn't say that I know a ton about
I love.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
That show Snapped, but I think this because I used
to watch it with my mom.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I've never watched that.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, I don't even know where it is these days.
You'd have to stumble upon it. But it's like on
the ID channel or I d end channel.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, investigation crime person, are you the true crime junkie?
My boyfriend was like, I think you need to stop.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, I think that men should be working, Like when
we're obsessed with Snapped. If they're watching it too, they
can see like, oh gosh, these women are snapping. Well.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Also, I think there's something to be said. This has
gone along on social media a lot. I think people
were talking about it is kind of a sign or
a red or yellow flag that we decompressed by watching
trauma when we watch true crime. That might be a
signal that you're something's off. Something's off, so pay attention
to that.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Oh Cat's sober.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
The final personality is not feeling it. Would prefer to
just stay on YouTube or social media. They have a
short attention span.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
What do you think I am?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I think you're the drama queen. Okay, and I guess
I don't know that you fit any other I mean
you also you're the I understand shows better than you
stop it.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Do you really think that? No? I okay and joking okay,
because I don't understand shows a lot like Severance. I
had to watch a lot of videos to understand it.
So maybe I'm the dumb one.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
No, I didn't understand what was happening and I did
not want to take the time to figure it out,
so I was just done. Okay, So that's probably because
I was background binging it.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Think I think so. I think Patrick would say I'm
then not feeling it because he gets really frustrated because
I'll watch like ten minutes of a show and I'm.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Like, now that you love reality shows, like you love
all the stuff in the Hampton's and Charleston, and you
love love on the Spectrum, and you like love is blind.
You are the Drava queen, I think so, Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Love on the Spectrum this last season, I've bawled the
whole time. You I think you might like that.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I'll give it a go. All right, you want your assignment? Yes,
and then everybody else listening, this is our assignment. Because
my friend was telling me, have you already watched it?
You're going to say it's your crime?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Okay. I was gonna say, what if I don't like
the show. I don't like to be forced to watch that?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Okay, I forgot. I put it in our little doc
that we're looking at right now, and don't don't look
ahead if you don't know, Okay, Okay. So my friend
was telling me about this documentary. All of her coworkers
and her friends have been watching it, and they they're
like split fifty to fifty. Like it's not unanimous, like, oh,
we think she's innocent. It's like some people think she's
guilty and some people think she's innocent, and that is
(13:45):
America's consensus. So it's making the case really difficult. Okay.
It's on max there's a documentary on max Is called
Body in the Snow The Trial of Karen Reid or
red r e a d read read read it's readoor rod.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
But I always thought like, if it's your name, I'm
used to saying r Eed or r e, I d
type it wrong? Or is that really how I think
I copied my.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Pen read sounds like a name too, though, Well I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Okay, well it is Karen important. Here we go, body
in the snow. The trial of Karen. Okay again, my
friend said that they were all split on whether or
not she was guilty. And here's a snapshot of what happened.
Karen R is accused of killing her boyfriend. Said he's
(14:39):
a Boston police officer, John O'Keefe, and this happened back
in January of twenty twenty two. Prosecutors alleged that after
a night of drinking, Karen intentionally backed her suv in
to John outside of a fellow officer's home, causing fatal
injuries and leaving him to die in the snow. They
(15:01):
claim she then left the scene without seeking help. Now,
the defense argues that John was killed inside the house
during a party, and that Karen is being framed as
part of a police cover up. They point to a
leeged misconduct by investigators and inconsistencies and the evidence. The
case has garnered significant public attention, although I'm just not
(15:24):
hearing about it.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I haven't heard about it with.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
A previous trial ending in a mistrial and a retrial
currently underway. So my friend wouldn't even give me where
she fell on it because she didn't want to influence
what I thought. So she sort of is the one
that initiated this assignment. It's Amy. She does my lashes.
We normally listen to true crime podcasts when I'm getting
my lashes done because I'm laying there for about fifty
minutes and it's hard to talk. I'm want to talk
(15:50):
and catch up with her because I like her, but
she's like, you have to stop moving, and you know,
I talk with my hands, so it's hard for me
to stay still. So we normally listen to true crime podcasts.
And then it came up about this. She was like,
have you watched this on Max? And I was like, no,
I've never even heard of it, and she's like, I
want you to watch it because I want your opinion.
I want to know what you think. Is she guilty
or is she not? So then I got an idea
for us to watch it. I want your thoughts. I'll
(16:12):
share mine and listeners can watch and give us their thoughts.
So it's a little assignment. So I want to see
how you feel about it.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
So that means at the end of the show, you
don't know. Is this an ongoing thing right now?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah? They said that the first trial ended in a
mistrial and a new one is currently underway, so.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
It's like actually happening. So I'm already like anxious about
not knowing. I just listened to a Crime Junkie episode.
I'm curious. I'm not any type of lawyer, but in
the episode I listen to. Thanks for the disclaimer disclaimer.
This is not a lawyer podcast.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
This is a therapy podcast, and is a therapist not
a lawyer.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Called a lawyer.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
This is not a yeah yeah ullegal minded, illegal minded,
mental health minded, So.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Don't take your legal advice from us. This was just
interesting to me. So the I get so frustrated with
Crime Junkie when there's not a solution at the end. However,
I listened to this episode, and they did the trial
too fast and they didn't collect enough evidence on the
person that they were trying to pin it on, and
so the jury could not because you have to what
(17:28):
is it? You have to you have to know without
reason doubt. And they're like, there, we think he did it,
but there's too much doubt that's available based on the
evidence that you brought. So he got not guilty. But
then because of double is it double jeopardy? You can't
be trial tried for the same crime twice?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Well, I think you can in a civil like you
could go like O. J. Simpson was tried and then
he was found not guilty and then in the civil
trial he was found guilty for the same crime.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Then might didn't you go to jail?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I don't know civil trials different.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Okay, google it.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
This is not a legal watch.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Well all I just was thinking that sucks that they
went too fast. I guess this is a mistrial. So
did she get found guilty? And then they're like mistrial you.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Have to I don't think you can get found guilty
and then it'd be a mistrial. It has to be
a mistrial.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
In the middle of it.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Before I watched the Dog.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
That I never thought about that, Like, if you mess up, no,
you can't be tried again. So if well that's a
fair I know, like a killer is just out in
about can't you appeal?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Though?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
You can appeal if you get found guilty, right, but
if they're like not guilty.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Okay, this is if you're found not guilty and you're like,
I appeal checked, Like there's a problem anyway that I
just know for a fact I would never be able
to be on a jury because that reasonable doubt you
speak of. I don't think how would.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
You get out of it?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I don't know I would How would I get out?
Like if I really wanted to get out, Yes, I'd
be like I am, I'm a liar.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
So I just called and got called a jury duty
and it was for kidnapping, like a real thing that
was in the news, and she was so nervous and
then they found enough jurors before they got to her.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
See, because I would be worried that if I'm on
a jury, if I convict somebody, they're going to retaliate.
Well we'll be in jail, right, yeah, that they have
people on the outside that come to kill me. I
never thought about it, or I just wouldn't be a
jur that speaks up. You know, some jurors they're a
part of these documentaries and they speak out and they're like, oh, yeah,
I'm a part.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Of this, Like I never thought about that.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, so maybe that's how I get out of it.
You're on her. I am scared of retaliation, So I
don't know how I'm gonna say they're innocent, and then
they'll be like like, no matter.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
What is that not like obstruction of justice or something like.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
If you I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I know that I know that we have there's too many. Okay,
we can move on.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I know that we do have lawyers that listen, and
so maybe they could write in or my boyfriend is
a lawyer in real estate.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Oh, I'm just curious how maybe I should just look
this up. What would be okay to not yes, you're raising.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Your hand, go ahead, finish your I'm just.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Wondering what gets you out of jury duty? And what
is like you're gonna do it anyway? If I'm like
I'm scared.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, I forgot my medication, That's what I would say.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Or like if I have a little baby that I
have to take care of for something, Yeah I'm breastfeeding.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Oh I'm sure, like prove it. Yeah, for your baby?
So double jeopardy. You can't be tried or punished twice
for the same crime after either being acquitted or convicted
in a previous trial. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I'm already confused, So who cares. Let's watch's let's watch
Body in the Snow the trial of Karen, and let's
see how we feel about whether or not she's guilty
or innocent, and we'll report back.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Do I have a time limit you have?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I don't know how many episodes there are. Maybe we
can look up how many episodes you have one week?
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Okay, and so I can't text you about it.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
No, we can't talk about it. You have one week.
We'll report back listeners. You have one week. This is
your assignment.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Okay, I can do it. I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
And then we'll know it's fun.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Okay. And then I'll also look up jury duty facts
like what gets us out of jury duty? Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Well, Shannon's already looking a mind because she's already got it. Okay,
medical reasons, financial hardship, dependent care, student, military conflict.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Okay, but medical reasons you could do you have to
have proof, like you have to bring a doctor's note,
because I can be like I'm having a heart attack.
I don't know, I don't know, I have anxiety.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Like I could easily say, doctor I am pairment or
doctor judge, judge, I am periment apostle. And you never
know when my estra and it's gonna be off for
my progestions off and then I'm gonna snap and I'm
gonna you know, like I'll be on trial, and then
I will be on trial.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, that's a good word. If you have ADHD and
I I can't pay attention. I'm gonna miss something that's
a lot of paying attention.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, and I'm dyslexic.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Okay, does that anyway to be continued?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I confuse information.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, you're like, I meant to say he was not guilty,
but I said he was guilty. Okay.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Are you ready for the feeling at the day.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
I'm so ready.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
And the feeling is brought to you by me. My
feeling of the day is annoyed, and I need you
to break it down.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
My feeling of the day is annoyed, and I need
you to break it down.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Okay, let's break it down.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I'm annoyed because we did a video call with my
daughter's aunt. So a little quick quick backstory, as we
adopted our daughter and son from Haiti two thousand and
eighteen or so, she just turned eighteen and so we
had been whatsapping with her aunt. But because it was
her eighteenth birthday weekend, we thought, oh, we should do
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a video call. So Ben, my ex husband, my daughter's dad,
came over. We all sat together around the kitchen table,
and then the aunt came up on video and her
English isn't great, but her husband speaks it better, so
he was more so translating. So it's really this is
a long situation of us being like what just sometimes
just sitting there and silence, taking in a lot, and
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they were like, ask anything you want? What do you
want to know? And my daughter's had a lot of
questions about her mom before, and her aunt was actually
with her mom when she dropped her off at the orphanage.
And she got dropped off at the orphanage at five
and a half, so she remembers it. She's like five
and a half or six. Where is my son? He
was dropped off at the orphanage at two months. He
doesn't remember that, whereas she does. So her aunt was
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with the mom, and so she hasn't seen her aunt
since then. So we're on video chat. I mean, we
had been texting for months now, so this is leading up.
It was building up to this. It wasn't just out
of the blue, and we made sure everybody was comfortable
and this is what she wanted to do, and she did.
And one of the questions that she asked was about
her mom, and then some other things and then about
her dad, Like we know nothing about her dad, and
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she just said, is he's still alive and they said yes,
and then they said he has four kids, like Tosher
would be five on his side, so he has four
kids in Haiti. And then her mom, we already knew this.
We already knew she had one before Sashi even left Haiti.
We knew that. And then we found out because Toasher
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also messages with her mom sometimes, but she hasn't asked
her these questions really, but her mom did say she
has another kid, so her mom has two. And then
we learned now that her dad has four. So there's
six half brother and sisters in Haiti. And you know,
she's here with us, while I think she's thankful to
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be here with us. I think it's only natural because
she knows, she knows the reality of the situation. How
do I say this, She doesn't know for a fact,
but I think she understands that her mom and her
dad are probably in a very different situation than her
life here in America. The reality the reference there you go,
thank you, The reality of how they live it is
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likely more challenging and difficult. So I think she has
appreciation for the facts of like, oh, my mom wanted
me to have a better life. My mom would you
to have an education and opportunities. And I think she
can wrap her head around that. However, there's got to
be this deep thing inside of you that's like, oh, well,
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all the other children are in Haiti and I'm the
only one that's not. And so in that moment, this
is why I'm annoyed. I'm annoyed with myself because in
the moment, during one of the awkward silences where it's
like we're trying to figure translation or whatnot, I just
started rubbing her back and then I was just like,
what are you feeling right now? And Ben looked at
me like too soon, that's and I knew it too,
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and I just thought, Oh, stupid. I just was annoyed
at myself for even asking that, because of course she
doesn't need to name her feelings in that moment. And
while it would be good to name the feelings, sometimes
it's just not the right time. And so I guess
I'm asking you like in those moments of sitting in
the uncomfortable with people that might be processing difficult information,
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and we're trying to be there and say the right thing,
and then sometimes we say the wrong thing. And not
that was a terrible thing to say at all, but
it's like, not the right time, she's still processing. Let
her be with her feelings. She'll figure those out later,
and just be there for her, be in the silence.
Why did I have to speak? And it was just
funny how Ben and Ben in nice relationship right now
(26:56):
is so good? Like what are you doing some wood
to knock on? Because we're just we're thriving. We're thriving
in our co parenting right now. We're in a good,
good group. It's been a minute since we've had any
we've had to say. Pickle, is that your work? That's
our code word for it's our safe word. But to
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get out of a conversation, like if we're just having
one of those moments, we have a word where it's
like pickle, and the conversations ends and we revisit it
later because we don't want to get off the rails
with each other, because cop parenting is difficult, it's hard. Whatever,
here we are, things are doing good. And I thought
it was also awesome in that moment that he could
look at me and be like, Amy, don't do that
too soon, and that I was able to receive it
(27:37):
and be like, oh, you're right, So what do I do?
What do we do? Because other people may not be
in that exact situation, they're probably not, but they're in
situations where they are sitting alongside someone that is hearing
something that might be bringing up a lot of feelings,
And what do we do to offer comfort and care
so that way we're not annoyed with ourselves?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Pardon me? Thinks you already know?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Well, I probably do, but I want I want your advice.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Okay, why do you say that? Just hearing you talk,
I think that you've already answered your own You've already
said I've.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Had time to talk with it. But also or I've
had time to think it through because it happened. But
in the moment, yeah, I don't. And even right now,
it's almost like when you're flustered you're in the moment,
you lose all yah the tools that you've.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Been given because I know better, Well, because what did
you feel when that happened? When before you said what
are you feeling? What were you feeling?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I felt for her. I felt like the pain of confusion. Yeah,
And I wanted her to know, like you, they love
you and you have worth and value and it doesn't
mean they love all those other siblings more, and who knows.
It's a very complex situation, and without talking to them,
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there's so much about who knows what other moms and
dads are involved in these kids' lives, Like I don't know,
maybe he now has four kids with a different wife
that was able to care about I don't know, or
maybe there's four different moms.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
So you wanted her to still feel loved and cared for. Yes,
So you asking what are you feeling in your head?
What was that doing? And this is not to like
you did it wrong. I'm just trying to.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Get grubbing her back and just trying to say that
but I don't think that was the moment to be like,
what's coming up for you right now? Because she probably
can't even really name whatever she's feeling right now. She
probably has just a lot of thoughts and she's processing.
So in the moments that we're sitting next to other people,
what do we do? Which I think why you said
I already know and it's just be quiet.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah, And okay, I want to say this first, you
asking her that I could be wrong, but it feels
like that was your way of like making sure she
felt cared for in love, Like it's your way of
like helping. But I want to do that because you
know you're working on feelings and we've been talking about
feelings a lot and the importance of them, so it's like, oh,
I know what can help. So I get that you're annoyed,
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and I hope you're having some grace for yourself that
like you're trying, like that was you attempting to comfort her,
and on top of that, and sometimes the best thing
we can do when people are receiving hard information is
just sit there and let them know that we're with them,
like a tuning to them. So you rubbing her back
her knowing you were there. If she's like taking a
(30:23):
deep breath, like breathing with her, and like remaining like
a calm, stable person there, That is the most regulating
thing anybody can do. A therapist, a friend, a mom
is a tuning to somebody's experience.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Okay, so I was. I was halfway there. I was
rubbing the back, and then I just took it a
little too far. Yeah, I'm like tune into feeling things podcasts.
I love feelings. I know all about feelings. What are
you feeling right now? Do you want me to go
get the feelings?
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Will you got the feeling all?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
You're like take a spind Oh my god, Then you
would be annoyed me. She would be annoyed me, and
she would be with you. Well, I did look at
the gifts of annoyance, like when we are feeling annoyed,
and the gift that comes along with that is it
pushes us towards better choices and growth. So that's what
I'm feeling annoyed with myself. But I'm going to grow
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from this and I'll know better next time how to
just sit in the discomfort with her, Which, to your point,
I do know but now I really know. Yeah, I'm
not going to forget.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
That sounds like a little bit of shades of anger
and shame mixed together, like anger of like I want
to be there and do the right thing for my daughter,
and shame of the toxic shame I should know better.
When we can kind of rewind that into some healthy
shame that says, I just need a little help. I
didn't know the best thing to do, and I needed
to ask somebody. I know.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
But to your point earlier, when you were like, I
think you know what to do, I think that's why
I'm annoyed. It's because I did know what to do.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I do know better. Those moments are hard.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah, thank you, thank you for affirming that. Yeah, yeah,
I went out the window.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
And you're feeling so you're feeling feelings with her, so
like you as a mom, I can't imagine as a
mom if I see a child, I cry at the
drop of a hat these days, watching a TV show,
watching a TikTok, so I can't imagine if I'm sitting
with my child knowing that they heard something that could
be difficult, I would be like, I want to take
this away from you. I don't want you to feel this. Yeah,
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so just attuning to somebody is the best thing we
can do, and usually we're more uncomfortable than the person
we're trying to help.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
We want to know the impairment. If I chose not
to feel the annoyance, I would love to know. You
want to know the impairment if I chose not to
feel the annoyance, I would love to know. Because if
you're feeling annoyed or whatever, you lean into it, and
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then you grow, you make better choices next time. If
I were to ignore my annoyance and not feel it
at all, right, that would lead to the impairment. That'll
lead to stuckness, complacency, and blind spots. Ooh okay, So
I would just keep on doing that to her constantly.
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I'd be walking around in every hard moment she has
and be like, so, what are you feeling right now?
Speaker 1 (33:13):
I wouldn't grow Yeah, and then she might just stop
talking to you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
So if you're feeling annoyed with yourself or someone else,
it can be helpful, lean in, lean into the feeling.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Thanks for sharing that, though, that's some vulnerability.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Yeah, I had permission from her to share it, so
just putting that out.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
There, like I just shared this without Yeah, I assume. So, yeah,
that's a lot her for letting you even share that.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah, you know how when you ask me like sometimes
I like look away and I get annoyed. I feel
like I do that often and I did it just now,
which we have talked about that before, like the not
on mic though, so I want.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Not on a hot mic.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
I want you to share it with everybody else since
it's now coming up for me. Of like when I
look away. I hate when I do that because then
I see it on the videos that you make, the
sick videos, and I'm like, oh, why am I looking away?
And or I do it in conversation with people and
I'm answering their question and I look away, and I
feel like they think, like, what is wrong with her?
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Why can't she hold eye contact with me?
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Can I ask you a question? Yes? Okay? What did
you have for dinner four nights ago?
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Hold one?
Speaker 1 (34:28):
That might be a hard question.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, why did you wear?
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I think I know what I knew i'd get there.
What's today Monday? Yea, So let me walk it back.
Last night I had chicken. That was Sunday night chicken.
Saturday night, I had leftover cake and meat. Friday night,
I had Mexican food. Friday night, I had Mexican food
(34:54):
at Sinco de Mayo. So then Thursday night, what did
I do Thursday night? I thought I can figure it out.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Let me ask you a different question.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
But I really wanted to get there.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Okay, what did you wear on Saturday? Oh?
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Black yoga pants okay, and the blacktop and hat okay,
because I was at a track meet all day? Oh
all day pretty much.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Okay. So I don't know if you notice this, but
your eyes went like that, and I don't know where
your eyes are going. When you said that you watch it,
I'm thinking, so there's science behind this, and so these
are called brain spots, or for you, this would be
a gay spot because it's a natural spot that your eyes.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Go to gay or gaze gaze gaze. It sounded like
you said gay spot. What I guess like my g spot? Sorry,
this is peachee keep going.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Your gaze spot. Okay, it's not multiple gay but gaze
g a z E gaze gazing for gazing. Okay, So
this is where your eyes are connected to how you
access memories in your brainkay. So when you are doing that,
when we're asked questions, we have to retrieve information. That's
why I asked you, like what did you have for
(36:11):
dinner four nights ago? If you asked me that, I'd
be like, come, I always look up. It's a natural
gay spot for me, for me to access memory that's
in the back of my brain. It's connected to brain spotting,
which is a type of trauma therapy where you find
spots that are connected to traumatic memories where you can
retrieve them, open them up, process them, and reorganize them
in your life. So it's a natural thing that people do.
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Everybody's doing it. And if you notice when you look
certain places, if I were to bring up something tough
for you, maybe I would bring up that experience that
you were talking about was with Stashira, and I could
have you feel that, notice where it's in your body,
and then what we would do it would have you
look at different spots and see where it feels the most,
(36:56):
you know, just okay and calm, and where that annoyance
feels the strongest. And that would be a brain spot
for you where your axis you're able to access some
of that stuff emotion and process set out. You've done
brain spotting, Yeah, I have. So did they explain a
lot of that to you or they just like do
it for not?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Really? I just did it. I did it when I
went with Linda to West Virginia. We're not West Virginia,
just to Virginia. I met Linda in Virginia for three
days for an intensive and a hotel room for jun
nine hours a day. And she had a stick and
we had cards and they were up on the wall
and I would she did something with the cards that
ended up with an eagle on the wall with like
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flying towards the sun, and then that was me. But
then she would take the stick and go, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
But you're looking at different spots and you're processing information.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah. But we also did a former brain spotting, at
least I think that's what she called it, where I
drew on huge pieces of butcher paper. I drew my
mom and then I drew my dad, and I wrote
all kinds of memories and things around them, and then
we hung them on the wall and I talked to
them and I went through each thing that I wrote down,
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the good and the bad, wasn't just painful memories. It
was all kinds of ways I would describe them. So
that was another form of brain spotting. And then we
did the thing with the stick.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
It's like any brain spotting can be done, and so
the probably most popular way people are doing it and
the way you learn it in the beginning, it's just
with that pointer the stick. I called it a wand
but you can do it by looking at anything but
that's connected to you your axis scene information. There's a
lot of I just did a phase two training with
brain spotting this past weekend. There's so much interesting information
(38:40):
out there about the eyeballs that nobody realizes, like how
often they move, and how like your brain never sees
light ever. This was interesting to me, Like your brain
never ever, ever, ever will see light, so your brain
doesn't see things. This might be like dud you, but
when you think about it, it's kind of crazy. Your
eyes see things and they have to choose connecting with
(39:02):
your brain. Think about all the things you're seeing right now.
I don't think you even see all the things. You
can't think about the things that you're seeing right now
because there's so much out there that your brain has
to like pick and choose what information is going to
take from your eyes and then actually pull to the
back of your head.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
And it's interesting what we choose to see and what
we choose to not see. That is very much tied
into also the lenses we wear.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Oh yeah, your focus on is what you continue to see.
Like if you sort of like the blue car.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
They say, where you look is how you is connected
to how you feel.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah, where you focus on?
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Gross? Yeah? Yeah, Also this is interesting. Do you know
how big an eyeball is? Uh?
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Like how big? Like A I'm trying to think, like
remember those red fireballs we used to eat the candies?
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Okay, so like a gumball. Yeah, it's as big as
acute tangerine?
Speaker 2 (39:55):
What it is? That big when it comes out?
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Ew, I don't know how much it weighs. I mean
how big A Yeah? I think of it as a
gumball too. I was like, what that big old thing
is in two in my head and I didn't realize
that your your eyes are constantly moving and if they
stop moving then you can't see. Oh, they're constantly moving,
which I guess some people would be like duh, but.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
No, I don't know that a lot of people are
like dune unless you're an optometrist or something.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yeah, those people are like, duh, we are the first
day of school. I didn't go to optometry school. Eyes
are crazy and huge. You're not an eye doctor or
a lawyer. Not a lawyer, not a trick. You into
it right with all those facts.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah, we should go ahead and put a disclaimer that
this is not a medical podcast.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Just not an optometrist podcast optomology. But send it to
all your optomologists friends, eye doctors that you know. I'm
sure the health thoughts.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
We did Feeling of the Day, which then led to
a little bit of brain spotting. But how will we
do the email?
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Wait? I we got it?
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Okay, email of the day?
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Did you do it? It was of the day?
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Okay, sorry e Mail of the Day?
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Perfect? Got it?
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Oh, Shannon just said the average weight of a human
eyeball is approximately eight grahams. But I don't know what
eight graham is. I mean, I just think of drugs.
Isn't that why I watch a lot of documentaries about
the cartel?
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Okay? Yeah, so how much is eight grahams? How many drugs?
Speaker 2 (41:29):
I don't know? Let's get to the email. This is
from Ashley in Boston, Massachusetts. Hey, Amy and Kat, not
so much a question, but just a story I thought
you wouldn't enjoy. For context, I work full time from home.
I have two young children that are on spring break.
I was getting increasingly frustrated while with all of their
requests and complaints while I was trying to work. I
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was about to lose my cool with them, so I
decided to step outside and compose myself. As soon as
I did this, a bird I didn't recognize landed right
next to me, alarmingly closer to me than any bird
would normally do. The birds stayed there for about a minute,
just looking at me. I immediately was like, okay, bird,
what are you trying to tell me? So I looked
at the bird and the symbolic meaning the bird was
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a northern mocking bird, the meaning a message of hope,
a symbol of innocence. So I paused and reminded myself
that these young children are innocent and need my support, love,
and encouragement. I know you are big on signs and birds,
so I thought of you immediately when this happened. Whether
it was a sign from the universe or a past
loved one. It was a good reminder for me in
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the moment to pause when feeling overwhelmed. Anyway, big Fan
and Hope y'all enjoyed this story. Ashley from Boston, Oh,
that's sweet.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
It's interesting. I was listening as you were saying the
meaning how I would interpret that, and I was not
thinking what she was thinking. She directed that towards like
my kids are innocent. I was directing that as her
like that would be a like you're just an innocent
person that gets but like lenses.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
When I saw a message of hope, would be like
spring break will be over soon. There's hope.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Okay, So we all would interpret that differently.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Yeah, but I think she interpreted it correctly, correctly as
she needed it. Now that there's a total correct way,
because we all get signs in different ways. If you
had any encounters with a.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Bird in a symbolic way or just encounters with birds.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Well, I don't know. I mean I have moments with birds.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Do you have any I don't know what this means.
I haven't stopped to ask, but there are two red
birds that keep coming around my house.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Well you should ask the bird just ask, just say,
why are you these birds coming around? And see if
you feel something next time they're around? Yeah, okay, Like
are they red like cardinals?
Speaker 1 (43:41):
I think so, I'm pretty sure that's what they are.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
You just call two cardinals, two little redbirds. But you
have it like her. You're not curious and you don't
want to look it up.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
I think, isn't a red bird like that? That's like
somebody like from your like it's a person.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
That's that's my mom. My mom is a cardinal. But
the red ones are males and the brown cardinals are females.
My mom can appear as both.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
She identify. How do you not know one of them
as your dad and one of them is your mom
because your dad's.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
She's mostly red, but my dad is a blue jay.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
How do you know when it's which person? Like, how
did you know the red and the Well?
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Right when my mom died, a red cardinal appeared in
the tree outside my sister's window, and so we kind
of felt in that moment that mom was a red cardinal.
And then I was in my bird face whenever my
dad was really sick and I was playing bird bingo
and I had all kinds of birds visit my feeter,
And it wasn't until my dad passed away that I
had a blue jay at my feeter for the first time,
and so obviously that was yeah, and he liked the
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color blue and he had blue eyes, and so it
just made sense. And then other times a blue jay
and a cardinal would come to my feeter together, and
I felt like that was my mom and my dad
being like, what up, we're hanging out.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Okay, as you're saying that, now this makes sense. You're
saying a red cardinal is a girl. No a boy
A bird that is a boy bird. I'm saying, like,
or it symbolizes a male No, no, it is, it is.
Okay if you see it.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
If you see a red cardinal, that is a male.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Bird bird, but it could symbolize anything. That's what I am.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
But my mom doesn't pick and choose.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Well, right, so the male bird can symbolize. Do you
get why I was confused. I thought you were saying.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
A red birder neutral. Yes, yes, yes, okay. But see
there's little brown cardinals. They look just the same, but
their feathers are brown and their beak is still bright
orange and they look just like the red ones, but
they're brown.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
But those are female birds. It's a female, could symbolize
a male or a femily. I got it. I'm with
you now. There's two red cardinals that keep coming to
my house, so it could be any type of It
could be my grandparents. Sure, I've felt like they're peaceful,
like it's nice to see them.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
I'm like, oh, hey, guys, yeah, what you're doing, Yeah,
talk to them, see if you It's so to clarify,
not every cardinal or blue jay out there is my
mom or dad. It's just if I have a feeling
that comes over me when I see the bird.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Oh so you're really in tune with the birds, right?
What about your new bird, my parakeet? Yeah, that is
from Petco. It was a gift for my daughter's best friend.
Did she ask you before she bought that?
Speaker 2 (46:25):
She did, Okay, I like, she said, you imagine you
would like to get me a paarakeet for my birthday?
And I was like, I've always wanted a bird.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Wait really?
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Oh so you're like, yes, you can get that.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
I didn't want it really, but it's like, what if
it gets out in the house. Let's hope not because
Kara or Maggie, my dog or cat will eat it.
So it's in a really big cage.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
And in Maggie that I can't go into.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
That room, no, since the shere's room. But also it's
locked up in a cage.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Like I don't know, cats are crazy, but cats can
get into things.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
I had a bird as a kid, and I put
Christmas lights on its cage and my cat started playing
with the Christmas lights and the cage was swinging back
and forth, and my bird died of a heart attack.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
How do you know it's a heart attacks?
Speaker 2 (47:11):
The vet said, but that it was like sick.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
That's just sort of was our best guess.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Okay, this house is becoming quite the jungle.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Mm hm, there you go.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
So we have our homework assignment we have to come
back with next week, and I have too. I have
to talk to the birds and I have to watch
a show.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Okay, report back, Okay, all right, I hope y'all are
having the day you need to have. Make sure you
follow us on socials Feeling Things podcast Sorry I cut
you off there.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
What were you saying?
Speaker 2 (47:46):
Feeling Things podcasts? That's our handle, right, Yes, I just
feel like we need to get in the habit.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
Of saying this email us, hey there, black and subscribe.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
You know what some professionals do is they have a
recording of them saying all that stuff and then they
throw it in at the end.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
But nobody's listening to that. And I do.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
I mean, I hear you. You listen to it because
it's right there, bam.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
You hear it. But also when I know there's prerecorded
things at the beginning and ends of podcasts, I don't
like take it seriously. There's one podcast that I listen
to and it's like, you guys might know if I
say it? Can I say it? What it says? I
won't say the name of the podcast. It's like, it's
amazing how many people are listening to this podcast that
haven't subscribed yet. And if you subscribed, oh, it says,
(48:28):
I'm going to do my best to give you guys
the best content ever, but I'm going to make a
deal with you. I'll do that if you like and
subscribe to this podcast. It's obviously more eloquent because it's prerecorded.
But he's At first I was like, oh, that was
like interesting, He's making a deal with this and I
was like, continue to listen to the episodes. I was like,
he only said it once.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
He's using a prerecorded deal.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yeah, it's not a deal tricking me.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
All right, Well, then we're not going to pre record it.
We're gonna do it live every time, so it's going
to be sort of like that. We're trying to end
the episode and they're be like, oh wait, there's more. Subscribe,
write a review, say hey, email us, call us, stop
by the house. Everything's in the show notes. All right,
now we can go.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
Hope. You have to day, you need to have bye bye,
Good.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
All right, break it down.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
If you ever have feelings that you just won't Amy
and Cat got your cob and locking a brother.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Ladies and folks, do you just follow an the spirit where.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It's all the front over real stuff to the chill
stuff and the.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
M but Swayne, sometimes the best thing you can do
it just stop you feel things.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
This is feeling things with Amy and Kat Happy Tuesday,
feeling things. I'm Amy and I'm Kat, and I'm obsessed
with the word that you taught me.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I know what you're gonna say. How do you know
because you've been saying it?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Say it sick sick. Yeah, I really have been using
it all the time, like your videos you've been making
for our social stuff, which Kat will make the videos
and then you mostly post Instagram, but sometimes I do too.
I post a TikTok and then I don't know how
it's getting to Facebook, but it's supposed to just cross join,
(01:01):
but I don't know that we've totally SYNCD up. Well
either way, the videos are sick, poset videos, sick, Yes, sick.
My lunch today sick. I had chicken and bananas.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Were just telling me like a baby's lunch, right, So
sick could be confusing with that, because I'm saying it
was sick like awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I want to eat it again. I'm very into all
kinds of salty sweet things right now, Like I want
dates in my ground.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Beef that actually sounds good.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Dates in my eggs.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I'm telling you I'm not eating the eggs though.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Okay, don't eat the eggs. You can even just take
a date and pan fry it and some gee or
butter like put that in the skillet and then cut
the date open and then smash it flat. Looks like
a little little cockroach and then it's so good.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I can't wait to try it. Sick, sick. You know
what's sick is that there is at True Food, the
cauliflower is cauliflower, pistachios and dates. I love so good, yes,
which is a good combination.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I've always enjoyed that, so I don't know why for
years now, after eating that appetizer at True Food, I
haven't incorporated more dates into my diet until now.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
But now I'm eating like two dates a day. You're
do you think you're gonna get tired of it? No? Okay,
well I'm gonna check in with you kind of like
I checked it around in the face Fitness. We'll see
if this is just like a food jag that you're
kind of in on, or if this is gonna be
a lasting relationship you have with dates.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Well, it could be the dates are giving me that
sweet with the salty, so because I'm mixing in, Like
today I did bananas with my chicken, and I think
that's the same vibe. It's salty sweet.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Are you eating a bite of chicken and a bite
of banana?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
And I put a banana on my fork and then
a piece of chicken on my fork, and then I
put in my mouth at the same time, chicken in bananas. Guys,
don't knock it?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Do you try it?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I'm telling you, Oh, sick, Which okay.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
The funny thing about sick is that the reason I
started saying it is because Patrick and I were at
Target and there was a young attendant. We were in
the checkout line and something messed out up. Why do
you look at me when I.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Said that she's an attendant? What are they called cashier?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
She was the check out Okay, so she was just
like attending to us, right, that.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Is what we will call her.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
She's an attendant, so something messed up, and then she
came over and helped us, and then when we were leaving,
she was like, did that end up working? And we go, yeah,
thank you, and she goes sick and we just got
a kick out of it, and so then we started
saying it kind of starcastically, but then we said it
enough that now that's really how we respond when something
good happens. The same thing happened with you. When I
(03:47):
first said it, you were like, why did you say that?
I did? I did make fun of you, and I said,
I think I told you that story, and then you
started saying it to me like jokingly. You would just respond,
and now it feels natural, right.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
That's why I wanted to share with you today that
you had won me over on the word sick. So
I'm influenced and I kind of thought maybe it was
a thing that's cool, But now I know the backstory
that it came from the attendant at Target, and so
now is it not cool?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I don't know it was cool. She was cool, she
was younger, she was on gen z. Okay, that's what
I think we got. We were like, oh my gosh,
we are so not in on like the lingo because
the girl was just like sick, but she said it
so naturally, and we were like, she's cool, and we're
like these I'm not old, but I just felt very
millennial in that moment. So we were jokingly trying to
say like the gen Z language. And now I think
(04:34):
gen Z's probably like, stop saying that.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So I'm going to say sick and I'm going to
add it. I'm trying to add in Sleigh.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I think Sleigh's over right.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Is it? I don't know. I feel like i'll ask
my daughter, Oh, she's eighteen, and then my boyfriend's daughter sixteen,
and she knows. She says low key a lot. I
was just low key tired, and so I've been trying to,
you know, relate to her because I want to bond
with her.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
And so this is a sick recipe. I want to
try it, and she's gonna be like low kienough, thanks.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I do we do bond over recipes on Instagram? I
will like, if I see a recipe, I'll send it
to her and I'll be like, we should make.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
This bonding over direct messages on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I didn't send her chicken and bananas that's my own recipe,
but I will ask my daughter because I like to
also bond with my daughter obviously, but she gets more
annoyed with me than my boyfriend's daughter because she can't
really express annoyance yet.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, I was gonna say, she's maybe with you, Okay,
So I actually looked this up because I feel like
this happens all the time. I've noticed that I've taken
on like phrases of my friends, and sometimes my friends
take on phrases from me, and then we start talking
the same. So this is actually a thing, and it's
called linguistic convergence, which is kind of hard to say,
(05:52):
and it's your brain's way of saying, I like you
and I want to be close to you. So I'm
low key going to start like you. And the closer
we are to someone, or the closer we want to
be to someone, the more that we do this, and
actually when you do that, that makes people feel good.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Well, and you and your husband y'all bonded over it,
because it's not that y'all were like, oh, we like you,
target attendant. It's like y'all started this thing of like
sick with each other and then it's like y'all gave
each other that energy and you like each other, and
now y'all do it, and now I do it because
I like you.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, And you'll notice there's phrases like in certain friend
groups that like we all say or we take from
each other. So I just thought that was interesting, like
why we do that because we like the person?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
That's a sign.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, okay, so you can't deny that you like me.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
True the facts facts, no printer. I feel like, do
kids say that I never fast? You know how fat?
I don't know?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Oh? Like fast? Fact?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
No printer?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Is that a thing?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I don't know. It just came out.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
You made that up?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
No oh. I felt like I was regurgitating it from
cooler people than me, but.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
From the attending at attendant at Target.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Well look at it, we'll look it up. I do
know that you and I haven't always agreed. On TV
shows that were watching, like you were so into Severance
and you were like, look, if you don't like severance,
you're just people don't like severance are at a different level.
It's almost like you were implying I get it. So
I felt I did not say that. But feelings aren't facts.
But I felt that way. I felt sorry Stan, but
(07:22):
not in No, I'm joking, Okay, don't make a face.
I'm exaggerating my feelings. Okay, but I do feel like
is there something I'm missing? Like what do I not
get about severance? Because Bobby felt the same way when
we would talk about it on the show, like he
loved it.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
You have to think a lot and I did a
lot of like watching videos about it to really understand.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
You have to study to watch a show that.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I thought it was again, the first season was better
than the second.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
But yeah, yeah, okay. Shannon looked up fact snowprinner. It's
a slang phrase meaning that's undeniably true or I agree
with you. It's a way of emphasizing the truth, a
statement often used as a viral trend on platforms like
TikTok okay. So the phrase plays on the idea that
a fax machine, often found near printers, is used to
transmit information without requiring a physical print. Facts no printer
(08:16):
sick sick. Yeah. So I am curious what you're watching
right now? And then I have a TV assignment for
us like you and me both and our listeners. Okay,
and then I also have a little which TV personality
are you?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Quiz?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
The fun little quiz? Yeah, we're going to take So
what are we watching right now? And by we I
mean you and Patrick.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I'm going to be curious if we align on any
of these. So we just started this past weekend. Is
it Neighbors and Friends or Friends and Neighbors on Apple?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
On Apple TV Friends and Neighbors.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I started that too with and who's the other girl? Olivia?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yes? And and I really like it. I'm only two
episodes in, so we're okay. So we're both watching it
and we like it.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, okay, I'm liking it so far. I don't know
if I'll go back to it because I was busy
trying to watch all of Ransom Canyon. I don't know
what that is on Netflix with Josh Jumal and Minka Kelly.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I've never heard of this.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
A mixture of Yellowstone meets Landman because it takes place
in Texas, but like way cheesier. So I love it
like it's it's a Netflix.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
It's cheesy show. A little bit.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I watch drama cheesy.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I didn't watch Yellowstone or Landman.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
See, we don't align on that.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
And I tried to watch Ozark Ozark's Ozark. Yeah I didn't.
I got like maybe three or four episodes in and
then I couldn't get into it. But the friends and neighbors,
I will say, I have a hard time with shows
that give me anxiety, and that one starting to get
I'm not going to say anything because I don't want
to give it away, but I'm just.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Like, oh no, I'm that show. I feel like it's
so good.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Okay, So should I watch what was it.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Called Ransom Canyon?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
On Netflix? Give it a go. I'll try to see
what you think. Okay, re'port back, and then I'll give
us the assignment, the TV assignment after we figure out
our TV personalities.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
So I saw this on Instagram, and there's the critic.
This person feels obligated to watch all critically acclaimed shows.
That's not me, not me at all. The background Binger
watches shows while doing other tasks.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
That you watch shows. You carry your laptop around me
I do. That's why you didn't like Severance Pause. You
have to pay attention to it.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
There's the drama queen here for the drama. Reality TV
addict Cheese is welcomed and encouraged. That could be me
show repeater rewatches the same shows over and over for comfort.
I'm doing that right now with Sex and the City.
True crime junkie, fearless consumer of all things true crime,
knows a lot about serial killers.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I like, don't want to be that person. I like documentaries,
but I wouldn't say that I know a ton about
I love.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
That show Snapped, but I think this because I used
to watch it with my mom.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I've never watched that.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah, I don't even know where it is these days.
You'd have to stumble upon it. But it's like on
the ID channel or I d end channel.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, investigation crime person, are you the true crime junkie?
My boyfriend was like, I think you need to stop.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, I think that men should be working, Like when
we're obsessed with Snapped. If they're watching it too, they
can see like, oh gosh, these women are snapping. Well.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Also, I think there's something to be said. This has
gone along on social media a lot. I think people
were talking about it is kind of a sign or
a red or yellow flag that we decompressed by watching
trauma when we watch true crime. That might be a
signal that you're something's off. Something's off, so pay attention
to that.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Oh Cat's sober.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
The final personality is not feeling it. Would prefer to
just stay on YouTube or social media. They have a
short attention span.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
What do you think I am?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I think you're the drama queen. Okay, and I guess
I don't know that you fit any other I mean
you also you're the I understand shows better than you
stop it.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Do you really think that? No? I okay and joking okay,
because I don't understand shows a lot like Severance. I
had to watch a lot of videos to understand it.
So maybe I'm the dumb one.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
No, I didn't understand what was happening and I did
not want to take the time to figure it out,
so I was just done. Okay, So that's probably because
I was background binging it.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Think I think so. I think Patrick would say I'm
then not feeling it because he gets really frustrated because
I'll watch like ten minutes of a show and I'm.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Like, now that you love reality shows, like you love
all the stuff in the Hampton's and Charleston, and you
love love on the Spectrum, and you like love is blind.
You are the Drava queen, I think so, Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Love on the Spectrum this last season, I've bawled the
whole time. You I think you might like that.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I'll give it a go. All right, you want your assignment? Yes,
and then everybody else listening, this is our assignment. Because
my friend was telling me, have you already watched it?
You're going to say it's your crime?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Okay. I was gonna say, what if I don't like
the show. I don't like to be forced to watch that?
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Okay, I forgot. I put it in our little doc
that we're looking at right now, and don't don't look
ahead if you don't know, Okay, Okay. So my friend
was telling me about this documentary. All of her coworkers
and her friends have been watching it, and they they're
like split fifty to fifty. Like it's not unanimous, like, oh,
we think she's innocent. It's like some people think she's
guilty and some people think she's innocent, and that is
(13:45):
America's consensus. So it's making the case really difficult. Okay.
It's on max there's a documentary on max Is called
Body in the Snow The Trial of Karen Reid or
red r e a d read read read it's readoor rod.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
But I always thought like, if it's your name, I'm
used to saying r Eed or r e, I d
type it wrong? Or is that really how I think
I copied my.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Pen read sounds like a name too, though, Well I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Okay, well it is Karen important. Here we go, body
in the snow. The trial of Karen. Okay again, my
friend said that they were all split on whether or
not she was guilty. And here's a snapshot of what happened.
Karen R is accused of killing her boyfriend. Said he's
(14:39):
a Boston police officer, John O'Keefe, and this happened back
in January of twenty twenty two. Prosecutors alleged that after
a night of drinking, Karen intentionally backed her suv in
to John outside of a fellow officer's home, causing fatal
injuries and leaving him to die in the snow. They
(15:01):
claim she then left the scene without seeking help. Now,
the defense argues that John was killed inside the house
during a party, and that Karen is being framed as
part of a police cover up. They point to a
leeged misconduct by investigators and inconsistencies and the evidence. The
case has garnered significant public attention, although I'm just not
(15:24):
hearing about it.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I haven't heard about it with.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
A previous trial ending in a mistrial and a retrial
currently underway. So my friend wouldn't even give me where
she fell on it because she didn't want to influence
what I thought. So she sort of is the one
that initiated this assignment. It's Amy. She does my lashes.
We normally listen to true crime podcasts when I'm getting
my lashes done because I'm laying there for about fifty
minutes and it's hard to talk. I'm want to talk
(15:50):
and catch up with her because I like her, but
she's like, you have to stop moving, and you know,
I talk with my hands, so it's hard for me
to stay still. So we normally listen to true crime podcasts.
And then it came up about this. She was like,
have you watched this on Max? And I was like, no,
I've never even heard of it, and she's like, I
want you to watch it because I want your opinion.
I want to know what you think. Is she guilty
or is she not? So then I got an idea
for us to watch it. I want your thoughts. I'll
(16:12):
share mine and listeners can watch and give us their thoughts.
So it's a little assignment. So I want to see
how you feel about it.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
So that means at the end of the show, you
don't know. Is this an ongoing thing right now?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah? They said that the first trial ended in a
mistrial and a new one is currently underway, so.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
It's like actually happening. So I'm already like anxious about
not knowing. I just listened to a Crime Junkie episode.
I'm curious. I'm not any type of lawyer, but in
the episode I listen to. Thanks for the disclaimer disclaimer.
This is not a lawyer podcast.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
This is a therapy podcast, and is a therapist not
a lawyer.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Called a lawyer.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
This is not a yeah yeah ullegal minded, illegal minded,
mental health minded, So.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Don't take your legal advice from us. This was just
interesting to me. So the I get so frustrated with
Crime Junkie when there's not a solution at the end. However,
I listened to this episode, and they did the trial
too fast and they didn't collect enough evidence on the
person that they were trying to pin it on, and
so the jury could not because you have to what
(17:28):
is it? You have to you have to know without
reason doubt. And they're like, there, we think he did it,
but there's too much doubt that's available based on the
evidence that you brought. So he got not guilty. But
then because of double is it double jeopardy? You can't
be trial tried for the same crime twice?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Well, I think you can in a civil like you
could go like O. J. Simpson was tried and then
he was found not guilty and then in the civil
trial he was found guilty for the same crime.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Then might didn't you go to jail?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I don't know civil trials different.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Okay, google it.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
This is not a legal watch.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Well all I just was thinking that sucks that they
went too fast. I guess this is a mistrial. So
did she get found guilty? And then they're like mistrial you.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Have to I don't think you can get found guilty
and then it'd be a mistrial. It has to be
a mistrial.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
In the middle of it.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Before I watched the Dog.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
That I never thought about that, Like, if you mess up, no,
you can't be tried again. So if well that's a
fair I know, like a killer is just out in
about can't you appeal?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Though?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
You can appeal if you get found guilty, right, but
if they're like not guilty.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Okay, this is if you're found not guilty and you're like,
I appeal checked, Like there's a problem anyway that I
just know for a fact I would never be able
to be on a jury because that reasonable doubt you
speak of. I don't think how would.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
You get out of it?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I don't know I would How would I get out?
Like if I really wanted to get out, Yes, I'd
be like I am, I'm a liar.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
So I just called and got called a jury duty
and it was for kidnapping, like a real thing that
was in the news, and she was so nervous and
then they found enough jurors before they got to her.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
See, because I would be worried that if I'm on
a jury, if I convict somebody, they're going to retaliate.
Well we'll be in jail, right, yeah, that they have
people on the outside that come to kill me. I
never thought about it, or I just wouldn't be a
jur that speaks up. You know, some jurors they're a
part of these documentaries and they speak out and they're like, oh, yeah,
I'm a part.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Of this, Like I never thought about that.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, so maybe that's how I get out of it.
You're on her. I am scared of retaliation, So I
don't know how I'm gonna say they're innocent, and then
they'll be like like, no matter.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
What is that not like obstruction of justice or something like.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
If you I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
I know that I know that we have there's too many. Okay,
we can move on.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I know that we do have lawyers that listen, and
so maybe they could write in or my boyfriend is
a lawyer in real estate.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Oh, I'm just curious how maybe I should just look
this up. What would be okay to not yes, you're raising.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Your hand, go ahead, finish your I'm just.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Wondering what gets you out of jury duty? And what
is like you're gonna do it anyway? If I'm like
I'm scared.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, I forgot my medication, That's what I would say.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Or like if I have a little baby that I
have to take care of for something, Yeah I'm breastfeeding.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Oh I'm sure, like prove it. Yeah, for your baby?
So double jeopardy. You can't be tried or punished twice
for the same crime after either being acquitted or convicted
in a previous trial. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I'm already confused, So who cares. Let's watch's let's watch
Body in the Snow the trial of Karen, and let's
see how we feel about whether or not she's guilty
or innocent, and we'll report back.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Do I have a time limit you have?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I don't know how many episodes there are. Maybe we
can look up how many episodes you have one week?
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Okay, and so I can't text you about it.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
No, we can't talk about it. You have one week.
We'll report back listeners. You have one week. This is
your assignment.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Okay, I can do it. I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
And then we'll know it's fun.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Okay. And then I'll also look up jury duty facts
like what gets us out of jury duty? Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Well, Shannon's already looking a mind because she's already got it. Okay,
medical reasons, financial hardship, dependent care, student, military conflict.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Okay, but medical reasons you could do you have to
have proof, like you have to bring a doctor's note,
because I can be like I'm having a heart attack.
I don't know, I don't know, I have anxiety.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Like I could easily say, doctor I am pairment or
doctor judge, judge, I am periment apostle. And you never
know when my estra and it's gonna be off for
my progestions off and then I'm gonna snap and I'm
gonna you know, like I'll be on trial, and then
I will be on trial.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, that's a good word. If you have ADHD and
I I can't pay attention. I'm gonna miss something that's
a lot of paying attention.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, and I'm dyslexic.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Okay, does that anyway to be continued?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I confuse information.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, you're like, I meant to say he was not guilty,
but I said he was guilty. Okay.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Are you ready for the feeling at the day.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
I'm so ready.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
And the feeling is brought to you by me. My
feeling of the day is annoyed, and I need you
to break it down.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
My feeling of the day is annoyed, and I need
you to break it down.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Okay, let's break it down.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I'm annoyed because we did a video call with my
daughter's aunt. So a little quick quick backstory, as we
adopted our daughter and son from Haiti two thousand and
eighteen or so, she just turned eighteen and so we
had been whatsapping with her aunt. But because it was
her eighteenth birthday weekend, we thought, oh, we should do
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a video call. So Ben, my ex husband, my daughter's dad,
came over. We all sat together around the kitchen table,
and then the aunt came up on video and her
English isn't great, but her husband speaks it better, so
he was more so translating. So it's really this is
a long situation of us being like what just sometimes
just sitting there and silence, taking in a lot, and
(23:37):
they were like, ask anything you want? What do you
want to know? And my daughter's had a lot of
questions about her mom before, and her aunt was actually
with her mom when she dropped her off at the orphanage.
And she got dropped off at the orphanage at five
and a half, so she remembers it. She's like five
and a half or six. Where is my son? He
was dropped off at the orphanage at two months. He
doesn't remember that, whereas she does. So her aunt was
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with the mom, and so she hasn't seen her aunt
since then. So we're on video chat. I mean, we
had been texting for months now, so this is leading up.
It was building up to this. It wasn't just out
of the blue, and we made sure everybody was comfortable
and this is what she wanted to do, and she did.
And one of the questions that she asked was about
her mom, and then some other things and then about
her dad, Like we know nothing about her dad, and
(24:23):
she just said, is he's still alive and they said yes,
and then they said he has four kids, like Tosher
would be five on his side, so he has four
kids in Haiti. And then her mom, we already knew this.
We already knew she had one before Sashi even left Haiti.
We knew that. And then we found out because Toasher
(24:45):
also messages with her mom sometimes, but she hasn't asked
her these questions really, but her mom did say she
has another kid, so her mom has two. And then
we learned now that her dad has four. So there's
six half brother and sisters in Haiti. And you know,
she's here with us, while I think she's thankful to
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be here with us. I think it's only natural because
she knows, she knows the reality of the situation. How
do I say this, She doesn't know for a fact,
but I think she understands that her mom and her
dad are probably in a very different situation than her
life here in America. The reality the reference there you go,
thank you, The reality of how they live it is
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likely more challenging and difficult. So I think she has
appreciation for the facts of like, oh, my mom wanted
me to have a better life. My mom would you
to have an education and opportunities. And I think she
can wrap her head around that. However, there's got to
be this deep thing inside of you that's like, oh, well,
(25:48):
all the other children are in Haiti and I'm the
only one that's not. And so in that moment, this
is why I'm annoyed. I'm annoyed with myself because in
the moment, during one of the awkward silences where it's
like we're trying to figure translation or whatnot, I just
started rubbing her back and then I was just like,
what are you feeling right now? And Ben looked at
me like too soon, that's and I knew it too,
(26:14):
and I just thought, Oh, stupid. I just was annoyed
at myself for even asking that, because of course she
doesn't need to name her feelings in that moment. And
while it would be good to name the feelings, sometimes
it's just not the right time. And so I guess
I'm asking you like in those moments of sitting in
the uncomfortable with people that might be processing difficult information,
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and we're trying to be there and say the right thing,
and then sometimes we say the wrong thing. And not
that was a terrible thing to say at all, but
it's like, not the right time, she's still processing. Let
her be with her feelings. She'll figure those out later,
and just be there for her, be in the silence.
Why did I have to speak? And it was just
funny how Ben and Ben in nice relationship right now
(26:56):
is so good? Like what are you doing some wood
to knock on? Because we're just we're thriving. We're thriving
in our co parenting right now. We're in a good,
good group. It's been a minute since we've had any
we've had to say. Pickle, is that your work? That's
our code word for it's our safe word. But to
(27:16):
get out of a conversation, like if we're just having
one of those moments, we have a word where it's
like pickle, and the conversations ends and we revisit it
later because we don't want to get off the rails
with each other, because cop parenting is difficult, it's hard. Whatever,
here we are, things are doing good. And I thought
it was also awesome in that moment that he could
look at me and be like, Amy, don't do that
too soon, and that I was able to receive it
(27:37):
and be like, oh, you're right, So what do I do?
What do we do? Because other people may not be
in that exact situation, they're probably not, but they're in
situations where they are sitting alongside someone that is hearing
something that might be bringing up a lot of feelings,
And what do we do to offer comfort and care
so that way we're not annoyed with ourselves?
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Pardon me? Thinks you already know?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Well, I probably do, but I want I want your advice.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Okay, why do you say that? Just hearing you talk,
I think that you've already answered your own You've already
said I've.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Had time to talk with it. But also or I've
had time to think it through because it happened. But
in the moment, yeah, I don't. And even right now,
it's almost like when you're flustered you're in the moment,
you lose all yah the tools that you've.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Been given because I know better, Well, because what did
you feel when that happened? When before you said what
are you feeling? What were you feeling?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I felt for her. I felt like the pain of confusion. Yeah,
And I wanted her to know, like you, they love
you and you have worth and value and it doesn't
mean they love all those other siblings more, and who knows.
It's a very complex situation, and without talking to them,
(28:53):
there's so much about who knows what other moms and
dads are involved in these kids' lives, Like I don't know,
maybe he now has four kids with a different wife
that was able to care about I don't know, or
maybe there's four different moms.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
So you wanted her to still feel loved and cared for. Yes,
So you asking what are you feeling in your head?
What was that doing? And this is not to like
you did it wrong. I'm just trying to.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Get grubbing her back and just trying to say that
but I don't think that was the moment to be like,
what's coming up for you right now? Because she probably
can't even really name whatever she's feeling right now. She
probably has just a lot of thoughts and she's processing.
So in the moments that we're sitting next to other people,
what do we do? Which I think why you said
I already know and it's just be quiet.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah, And okay, I want to say this first, you
asking her that I could be wrong, but it feels
like that was your way of like making sure she
felt cared for in love, Like it's your way of
like helping. But I want to do that because you
know you're working on feelings and we've been talking about
feelings a lot and the importance of them, so it's like, oh,
I know what can help. So I get that you're annoyed,
(30:00):
and I hope you're having some grace for yourself that
like you're trying, like that was you attempting to comfort her,
and on top of that, and sometimes the best thing
we can do when people are receiving hard information is
just sit there and let them know that we're with them,
like a tuning to them. So you rubbing her back
her knowing you were there. If she's like taking a
(30:23):
deep breath, like breathing with her, and like remaining like
a calm, stable person there, That is the most regulating
thing anybody can do. A therapist, a friend, a mom
is a tuning to somebody's experience.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Okay, so I was. I was halfway there. I was
rubbing the back, and then I just took it a
little too far. Yeah, I'm like tune into feeling things podcasts.
I love feelings. I know all about feelings. What are
you feeling right now? Do you want me to go
get the feelings?
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Will you got the feeling all?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
You're like take a spind Oh my god, Then you
would be annoyed me. She would be annoyed me, and
she would be with you. Well, I did look at
the gifts of annoyance, like when we are feeling annoyed,
and the gift that comes along with that is it
pushes us towards better choices and growth. So that's what
I'm feeling annoyed with myself. But I'm going to grow
(31:15):
from this and I'll know better next time how to
just sit in the discomfort with her, Which, to your point,
I do know but now I really know. Yeah, I'm
not going to forget.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
That sounds like a little bit of shades of anger
and shame mixed together, like anger of like I want
to be there and do the right thing for my daughter,
and shame of the toxic shame I should know better.
When we can kind of rewind that into some healthy
shame that says, I just need a little help. I
didn't know the best thing to do, and I needed
to ask somebody. I know.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
But to your point earlier, when you were like, I
think you know what to do, I think that's why
I'm annoyed. It's because I did know what to do.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I do know better. Those moments are hard.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah, thank you, thank you for affirming that. Yeah, yeah,
I went out the window.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
And you're feeling so you're feeling feelings with her, so
like you as a mom, I can't imagine as a
mom if I see a child, I cry at the
drop of a hat these days, watching a TV show,
watching a TikTok, so I can't imagine if I'm sitting
with my child knowing that they heard something that could
be difficult, I would be like, I want to take
this away from you. I don't want you to feel this. Yeah,
(32:18):
so just attuning to somebody is the best thing we
can do, and usually we're more uncomfortable than the person
we're trying to help.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
We want to know the impairment. If I chose not
to feel the annoyance, I would love to know. You
want to know the impairment if I chose not to
feel the annoyance, I would love to know. Because if
you're feeling annoyed or whatever, you lean into it, and
(32:49):
then you grow, you make better choices next time. If
I were to ignore my annoyance and not feel it
at all, right, that would lead to the impairment. That'll
lead to stuckness, complacency, and blind spots. Ooh okay, So
I would just keep on doing that to her constantly.
(33:10):
I'd be walking around in every hard moment she has
and be like, so, what are you feeling right now?
Speaker 1 (33:13):
I wouldn't grow Yeah, and then she might just stop
talking to you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
So if you're feeling annoyed with yourself or someone else,
it can be helpful, lean in, lean into the feeling.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Thanks for sharing that, though, that's some vulnerability.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Yeah, I had permission from her to share it, so
just putting that out.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
There, like I just shared this without Yeah, I assume. So, yeah,
that's a lot her for letting you even share that.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah, you know how when you ask me like sometimes
I like look away and I get annoyed. I feel
like I do that often and I did it just now,
which we have talked about that before, like the not
on mic though, so I want.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Not on a hot mic.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
I want you to share it with everybody else since
it's now coming up for me. Of like when I
look away. I hate when I do that because then
I see it on the videos that you make, the
sick videos, and I'm like, oh, why am I looking away?
And or I do it in conversation with people and
I'm answering their question and I look away, and I
feel like they think, like, what is wrong with her?
(34:17):
Why can't she hold eye contact with me?
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Can I ask you a question? Yes? Okay? What did
you have for dinner four nights ago?
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Hold one?
Speaker 1 (34:28):
That might be a hard question.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, why did you wear?
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I think I know what I knew i'd get there.
What's today Monday? Yea, So let me walk it back.
Last night I had chicken. That was Sunday night chicken.
Saturday night, I had leftover cake and meat. Friday night,
I had Mexican food. Friday night, I had Mexican food
(34:54):
at Sinco de Mayo. So then Thursday night, what did
I do Thursday night? I thought I can figure it out.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Let me ask you a different question.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
But I really wanted to get there.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Okay, what did you wear on Saturday? Oh?
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Black yoga pants okay, and the blacktop and hat okay,
because I was at a track meet all day? Oh
all day pretty much.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Okay. So I don't know if you notice this, but
your eyes went like that, and I don't know where
your eyes are going. When you said that you watch it,
I'm thinking, so there's science behind this, and so these
are called brain spots, or for you, this would be
a gay spot because it's a natural spot that your eyes.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Go to gay or gaze gaze gaze. It sounded like
you said gay spot. What I guess like my g spot? Sorry,
this is peachee keep going.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Your gaze spot. Okay, it's not multiple gay but gaze
g a z E gaze gazing for gazing. Okay, So
this is where your eyes are connected to how you
access memories in your brainkay. So when you are doing that,
when we're asked questions, we have to retrieve information. That's
why I asked you, like what did you have for
(36:11):
dinner four nights ago? If you asked me that, I'd
be like, come, I always look up. It's a natural
gay spot for me, for me to access memory that's
in the back of my brain. It's connected to brain spotting,
which is a type of trauma therapy where you find
spots that are connected to traumatic memories where you can
retrieve them, open them up, process them, and reorganize them
in your life. So it's a natural thing that people do.
(36:36):
Everybody's doing it. And if you notice when you look
certain places, if I were to bring up something tough
for you, maybe I would bring up that experience that
you were talking about was with Stashira, and I could
have you feel that, notice where it's in your body,
and then what we would do it would have you
look at different spots and see where it feels the most,
(36:56):
you know, just okay and calm, and where that annoyance
feels the strongest. And that would be a brain spot
for you where your axis you're able to access some
of that stuff emotion and process set out. You've done
brain spotting, Yeah, I have. So did they explain a
lot of that to you or they just like do
it for not?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Really? I just did it. I did it when I
went with Linda to West Virginia. We're not West Virginia,
just to Virginia. I met Linda in Virginia for three
days for an intensive and a hotel room for jun
nine hours a day. And she had a stick and
we had cards and they were up on the wall
and I would she did something with the cards that
ended up with an eagle on the wall with like
(37:34):
flying towards the sun, and then that was me. But
then she would take the stick and go, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
But you're looking at different spots and you're processing information.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah. But we also did a former brain spotting, at
least I think that's what she called it, where I
drew on huge pieces of butcher paper. I drew my
mom and then I drew my dad, and I wrote
all kinds of memories and things around them, and then
we hung them on the wall and I talked to
them and I went through each thing that I wrote down,
(38:07):
the good and the bad, wasn't just painful memories. It
was all kinds of ways I would describe them. So
that was another form of brain spotting. And then we
did the thing with the stick.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
It's like any brain spotting can be done, and so
the probably most popular way people are doing it and
the way you learn it in the beginning, it's just
with that pointer the stick. I called it a wand
but you can do it by looking at anything but
that's connected to you your axis scene information. There's a
lot of I just did a phase two training with
brain spotting this past weekend. There's so much interesting information
(38:40):
out there about the eyeballs that nobody realizes, like how
often they move, and how like your brain never sees
light ever. This was interesting to me, Like your brain
never ever, ever, ever will see light, so your brain
doesn't see things. This might be like dud you, but
when you think about it, it's kind of crazy. Your
eyes see things and they have to choose connecting with
(39:02):
your brain. Think about all the things you're seeing right now.
I don't think you even see all the things. You
can't think about the things that you're seeing right now
because there's so much out there that your brain has
to like pick and choose what information is going to
take from your eyes and then actually pull to the
back of your head.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
And it's interesting what we choose to see and what
we choose to not see. That is very much tied
into also the lenses we wear.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Oh yeah, your focus on is what you continue to see.
Like if you sort of like the blue car.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
They say, where you look is how you is connected
to how you feel.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah, where you focus on?
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Gross? Yeah? Yeah, Also this is interesting. Do you know
how big an eyeball is? Uh?
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Like how big? Like A I'm trying to think, like
remember those red fireballs we used to eat the candies?
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Okay, so like a gumball. Yeah, it's as big as
acute tangerine?
Speaker 2 (39:55):
What it is? That big when it comes out?
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Ew, I don't know how much it weighs. I mean
how big A Yeah? I think of it as a
gumball too. I was like, what that big old thing
is in two in my head and I didn't realize
that your your eyes are constantly moving and if they
stop moving then you can't see. Oh, they're constantly moving,
which I guess some people would be like duh, but.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
No, I don't know that a lot of people are
like dune unless you're an optometrist or something.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yeah, those people are like, duh, we are the first
day of school. I didn't go to optometry school. Eyes
are crazy and huge. You're not an eye doctor or
a lawyer. Not a lawyer, not a trick. You into
it right with all those facts.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Yeah, we should go ahead and put a disclaimer that
this is not a medical podcast.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
Just not an optometrist podcast optomology. But send it to
all your optomologists friends, eye doctors that you know. I'm
sure the health thoughts.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
We did Feeling of the Day, which then led to
a little bit of brain spotting. But how will we
do the email?
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Wait? I we got it?
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Okay, email of the day?
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Did you do it? It was of the day?
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Okay, sorry e Mail of the Day?
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Perfect? Got it?
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Oh, Shannon just said the average weight of a human
eyeball is approximately eight grahams. But I don't know what
eight graham is. I mean, I just think of drugs.
Isn't that why I watch a lot of documentaries about
the cartel?
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Okay? Yeah, so how much is eight grahams? How many drugs?
Speaker 2 (41:29):
I don't know? Let's get to the email. This is
from Ashley in Boston, Massachusetts. Hey, Amy and Kat, not
so much a question, but just a story I thought
you wouldn't enjoy. For context, I work full time from home.
I have two young children that are on spring break.
I was getting increasingly frustrated while with all of their
requests and complaints while I was trying to work. I
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was about to lose my cool with them, so I
decided to step outside and compose myself. As soon as
I did this, a bird I didn't recognize landed right
next to me, alarmingly closer to me than any bird
would normally do. The birds stayed there for about a minute,
just looking at me. I immediately was like, okay, bird,
what are you trying to tell me? So I looked
at the bird and the symbolic meaning the bird was
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a northern mocking bird, the meaning a message of hope,
a symbol of innocence. So I paused and reminded myself
that these young children are innocent and need my support, love,
and encouragement. I know you are big on signs and birds,
so I thought of you immediately when this happened. Whether
it was a sign from the universe or a past
loved one. It was a good reminder for me in
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the moment to pause when feeling overwhelmed. Anyway, big Fan
and Hope y'all enjoyed this story. Ashley from Boston, Oh,
that's sweet.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
It's interesting. I was listening as you were saying the
meaning how I would interpret that, and I was not
thinking what she was thinking. She directed that towards like
my kids are innocent. I was directing that as her
like that would be a like you're just an innocent
person that gets but like lenses.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
When I saw a message of hope, would be like
spring break will be over soon. There's hope.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Okay, So we all would interpret that differently.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Yeah, but I think she interpreted it correctly, correctly as
she needed it. Now that there's a total correct way,
because we all get signs in different ways. If you
had any encounters with a.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Bird in a symbolic way or just encounters with birds.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Well, I don't know. I mean I have moments with birds.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Do you have any I don't know what this means.
I haven't stopped to ask, but there are two red
birds that keep coming around my house.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Well you should ask the bird just ask, just say,
why are you these birds coming around? And see if
you feel something next time they're around? Yeah, okay, Like
are they red like cardinals?
Speaker 1 (43:41):
I think so, I'm pretty sure that's what they are.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
You just call two cardinals, two little redbirds. But you
have it like her. You're not curious and you don't
want to look it up.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
I think, isn't a red bird like that? That's like
somebody like from your like it's a person.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
That's that's my mom. My mom is a cardinal. But
the red ones are males and the brown cardinals are females.
My mom can appear as both.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
She identify. How do you not know one of them
as your dad and one of them is your mom
because your dad's.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
She's mostly red, but my dad is a blue jay.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
How do you know when it's which person? Like, how
did you know the red and the Well?
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Right when my mom died, a red cardinal appeared in
the tree outside my sister's window, and so we kind
of felt in that moment that mom was a red cardinal.
And then I was in my bird face whenever my
dad was really sick and I was playing bird bingo
and I had all kinds of birds visit my feeter,
And it wasn't until my dad passed away that I
had a blue jay at my feeter for the first time,
and so obviously that was yeah, and he liked the
(44:40):
color blue and he had blue eyes, and so it
just made sense. And then other times a blue jay
and a cardinal would come to my feeter together, and
I felt like that was my mom and my dad
being like, what up, we're hanging out.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Okay, as you're saying that, now this makes sense. You're
saying a red cardinal is a girl. No a boy
A bird that is a boy bird. I'm saying, like,
or it symbolizes a male No, no, it is, it is.
Okay if you see it.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
If you see a red cardinal, that is a male.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Bird bird, but it could symbolize anything. That's what I am.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
But my mom doesn't pick and choose.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Well, right, so the male bird can symbolize. Do you
get why I was confused. I thought you were saying.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
A red birder neutral. Yes, yes, yes, okay. But see
there's little brown cardinals. They look just the same, but
their feathers are brown and their beak is still bright
orange and they look just like the red ones, but
they're brown.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
But those are female birds. It's a female, could symbolize
a male or a femily. I got it. I'm with
you now. There's two red cardinals that keep coming to
my house, so it could be any type of It
could be my grandparents. Sure, I've felt like they're peaceful,
like it's nice to see them.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
I'm like, oh, hey, guys, yeah, what you're doing, Yeah,
talk to them, see if you It's so to clarify,
not every cardinal or blue jay out there is my
mom or dad. It's just if I have a feeling
that comes over me when I see the bird.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Oh so you're really in tune with the birds, right?
What about your new bird, my parakeet? Yeah, that is
from Petco. It was a gift for my daughter's best friend.
Did she ask you before she bought that?
Speaker 2 (46:25):
She did, Okay, I like, she said, you imagine you
would like to get me a paarakeet for my birthday?
And I was like, I've always wanted a bird.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Wait really?
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Oh so you're like, yes, you can get that.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
I didn't want it really, but it's like, what if
it gets out in the house. Let's hope not because
Kara or Maggie, my dog or cat will eat it.
So it's in a really big cage.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
And in Maggie that I can't go into.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
That room, no, since the shere's room. But also it's
locked up in a cage.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Like I don't know, cats are crazy, but cats can
get into things.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
I had a bird as a kid, and I put
Christmas lights on its cage and my cat started playing
with the Christmas lights and the cage was swinging back
and forth, and my bird died of a heart attack.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
How do you know it's a heart attacks?
Speaker 2 (47:11):
The vet said, but that it was like sick.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
That's just sort of was our best guess.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Okay, this house is becoming quite the jungle.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Mm hm, there you go.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
So we have our homework assignment we have to come
back with next week, and I have too. I have
to talk to the birds and I have to watch
a show.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
Okay, report back, Okay, all right, I hope y'all are
having the day you need to have. Make sure you
follow us on socials Feeling Things podcast Sorry I cut
you off there.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
What were you saying?
Speaker 2 (47:46):
Feeling Things podcasts? That's our handle, right, Yes, I just
feel like we need to get in the habit.
Speaker 1 (47:50):
Of saying this email us, hey there, black and subscribe.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
You know what some professionals do is they have a
recording of them saying all that stuff and then they
throw it in at the end.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
But nobody's listening to that. And I do.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
I mean, I hear you. You listen to it because
it's right there, bam.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
You hear it. But also when I know there's prerecorded
things at the beginning and ends of podcasts, I don't
like take it seriously. There's one podcast that I listen
to and it's like, you guys might know if I
say it? Can I say it? What it says? I
won't say the name of the podcast. It's like, it's
amazing how many people are listening to this podcast that
haven't subscribed yet. And if you subscribed, oh, it says,
(48:28):
I'm going to do my best to give you guys
the best content ever, but I'm going to make a
deal with you. I'll do that if you like and
subscribe to this podcast. It's obviously more eloquent because it's prerecorded.
But he's At first I was like, oh, that was
like interesting, He's making a deal with this and I
was like, continue to listen to the episodes. I was like,
he only said it once.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
He's using a prerecorded deal.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yeah, it's not a deal tricking me.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
All right, Well, then we're not going to pre record it.
We're gonna do it live every time, so it's going
to be sort of like that. We're trying to end
the episode and they're be like, oh wait, there's more. Subscribe,
write a review, say hey, email us, call us, stop
by the house. Everything's in the show notes. All right,
now we can go.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
Hope. You have to day, you need to have bye bye,
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