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August 26, 2025 45 mins

Amy & Kat are bringing their curiosity to the table this week (about everything from whether you’d tell someone they had food in their teeth to why certain big podcasts have broken up!) The Feeling of the Day is Relief, as Kat finally changed her last name a year and a half after getting married. They talk about the double standards that come with changing a name and what men should have to do that feels equally inconvenient. Fittingly, they discuss why “a wife is the cheat code to life” and they share their current obsession: proffee (protein + coffee) + a discount code (below) for their go-to protein right now. It’s an episode full of curiosity, laughter, and real talk about relationships, life hacks, and little things that make a big difference.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
All right, break it down.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
If you ever have feelings that you just fons Amy
and Cat, gotcha, Cob and locking a brother, Ladies and felts,
do you just follow an the spirit where it's all
the front over real stuff, tell the chill stuff and them.
But Swayne, sometimes the best thing you can do it
just stop you feel things. This is feeling things with

(00:28):
Amy and Kat.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to feeling things. I'm Amy and I'm Kat,
and We've got our feelings of the day. I'll start
because mine is more of a question with a feeling,
because I'm curious. My feeling is curious about what you
would do if you saw something in someone's teeth but
you didn't really know them that well. Let me give
you the scenario. So I'm at my house and I

(00:50):
just chopped up the salad and I was eating it,
and then these workers came. They weren't going to do
the work at my house, but they were coming to
sort of assess the situation and plan out. I guess
how they're gonna do whatever. So three guys, three at
my door, and I walk around my house with them
for at least fifteen minutes, and then they leave and

(01:11):
I look in the mirror and I have a big
piece of leather right here on my tooth. Nobody told me,
and I'm like, okay, and here's the what we need
in this room. And then over in this bathroom this
is broken da da da, And I'm sure. I'm just
like you know, and now all three, I mean sure
they walked out and they're like, do you see that?
Let us in her teeth?

Speaker 3 (01:31):
So like, do you know why they didn't see it?

Speaker 1 (01:33):
There's the way they didn't see it. I'm talking about
dark leafy green. Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
It wasn't like iceberg.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
No, not, dang it, a light piece of romaine. We're
talking like mixed greens, the purple one.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Oh no.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
And you were probably really smiling too, because you're really friendly.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Well yeah, and I think that one of them made
some like joke at some point and then I was like,
oh yeah, haha, and then he and so I definitely, yes, yes,
Like the vibe was good, Like I'm like, oh, I
like these guys. I'm glad. I mean, I've actually worked
with them before, but I hadn't seen them in a
little bit, so it's sort of.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Like, Hey, how's it going.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
I'm sure. I was like, how are you.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
And I have let us write.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
In my tooth?

Speaker 3 (02:16):
So what would you do?

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Well, I guess I'm like, well, yeah, well would I do?
Would I just know that it was there the whole
time and she's just at home, Like, say, I see
it in somebody else's teeth and I'm at their house.
I'm like, she's not out in public, we're not at home.
I don't want to embarrass her, be awkward to being like, oh,
you have something in your teeth, but I still would
like to know. So I guess I've debated what I

(02:39):
would do and would I say anything? And I guess
if I was being hired by somebody and I don't
want to make them feel uncomfortable, then I'm just not
going to say anything. But now I'm also uncomfortable knowing
that I had it the whole time and they didn't
say anything.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
I think the hope there is is that they don't
say anything, they don't have to address it, and you
drink some water and flesh that out before you see it.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
And then nobody knows. That's the hope that is nailed it.
That is the ideal situation. However, it's not what happened.
I have a mirror in my kitchen and walked by
it whenever they left and saw it, and I thought,
oh my goodness, well that was fun. And you know,
I have a boyfriend. It's fine. It's not like I
was interested in one of the guys I have got.

(03:21):
Well one of them was kind of cute, but whatever.
Friend cry Ocat Cryocat is single. She's like, did you
get his number? I mean I have his number. He's
doing work at my house. Hopefully he doesn't listen to this.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
Hopefully does yes, Hopefully he does listen, because then we
have more male listeners and then he next time gonna
be like, you know what, we should have addressed it.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
And I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
I thought I was doing the right thing and apparently
like I've learned something, thank you for talking about it.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
It's money awareness.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
I'm picturing like contractors when they're at work, like what
they're listening to is likely not feeling like hey, Bud's
so which feeling the other day that was me like
spitting you know, just like you know, like I'm just
picturing like people working and be like like they're dipping

(04:16):
like a no, my feeling the day is gassy.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
You're just thinking contractors are just partying around.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
No, No, they're hard workers. Like they're working hard, and
I just picture them being like all like, you know,
buzzing on their tools and being like, man, I'm just
feeling confused and grateful because you know, two feelings can
be true at the same time. So maybe they are listening. Hey, guys,

(04:51):
next time, tell me that I have spinach or lettuce
or whatever in my teeth or whatever it is.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
It could be a chia seed.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
I don't know, oh seeds. Oh can't, I can't. You
know what you were so right about one hundred percent.
And we're gonna get to your feeling of the day
in a minute, because I'm I'm also curious about that
because I know you have a whole story that I've
been waiting to hear, you know, update on your personal life. Yeah,
it's big, feel it's big.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
It's big. But I want you to say this because
I need the.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Cat needs the validation. I amy admit to you Kat
in our Protein Balls, which is our first cooking show
ever that we uploaded her first of two. We have
two cooking shows. We have a Homemade Pasta and Protein Balls.
They're both chef's kiss. Is that what they say?

Speaker 5 (05:39):
It?

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah, except this, except this.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
So I noticed because I've been making I pull up
our post anytime I need the recipe. It's not that hard.
You think I should have it memorized, but I just
I get nervous. I want to make sure that I've
got everything right. And I know we omitted the chia
seeds out of the video. I think I deleted that
part out of the video because it's part of the recipe.
But while we're doing video, cats like I really think
we should leave the gia seeds out, and I'm like, no,

(06:02):
it's fine, We're gonna leave the geat seeds in. So
we do, and we make the balls for the video
and then we have to eat those and they have
the chia seeds in them and they are getting stuck
in my teeth left and right, and they are so annoying.
And that's what that's what you said they would be.
And I was like, no, no, no, gia seeds for life,
like I'm keeping them in. Well, I delete it out

(06:22):
of the video, but if you go down to the
recipe part, which is in the caption, I still have
chia seeds in there. So I actually need to go
in and edit it and delete it because we don't
need to send people down that path because emotional distress
picking chia seeds out of their teeth.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
The only time you should be eating a chia seed
is if you're home and nobody's gonna come over for
a while and you're eating by yourself and you can
brush your teeth after.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Because those pesky little fellas.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
That is what they think is exactly what they should
be called. They should be renamed.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Peski little fellas seeds.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
Wait, we could have a brand of chia seeds called
pesky Little fellas, but pesky.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Little fes but like, why why would we wouldn't be
the worst salespeople ever because we like buyer up.

Speaker 5 (07:17):
They called that, and like because they're annoying and like,
well and I don't want them.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Well, if you blend that they are they do serve
a purpose and they can be good for you. So
you can blend them in a smoothie and you'll never
have them stuck in your teeth.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Like you just don't really blend that smoothie though.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, but I think once you do, or yeah, they're
pesty little suckers.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
They're not just fellas, there's little suckers.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah pls.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
I used to eat well.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
I do make those to eat in between like therapy sessions.
But when I made a batch with gia seeds, I
had to not eat them at those times of the
day because I had ten minutes to eat that and
then like go rinse my mouth out.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Oh yeah, and like you're with a client, you sit
down distracted. If I was in a therapy session in
my therapeut sad geo seeds in her teeth, So you
would say something, I guess I really don't know what
I would do till I'm exactly in this situation. I
would like to think I always lean just tell them
because someone would rather know. But like also the geo seeds,
you can kind of feel okay when you're in the car.
I got one stuck and I had no other way,

(08:16):
and I had like dig in my bag for a
piece of paper and then get the paper and like
dig the cheese seed out. So we've omitted it from
our protein balls. Go make them because they are so good.
I've been making double batches in fact, my boyfriend's kids.
Like the last time I made them, I made a
double batch for my house and then for his house,
and he took them home and he put them in
a bag that night. The next day, by one pm,

(08:37):
he's like, they're all gone. They've eaten them all. And
I'm like, well, now I'm gonna need to do triple that,
which which is a compliment to our protein balls.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
You you've made that batch, and so.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
I highly recommend people make those. And then I do
need to do everybody a favor, and I need to
go into the because I know, to admit omit it.
But if other people are just now finding that recipe
and they're like, oh, I want to try these, and
they're doing the cheese seeds, and they're gonna be annoyed
with us because and we're like, oh, these pesky little suckos,
Now they're stuck in my teeth. But protein balls are legit.

(09:12):
That's one way we're getting extra protein. I'm also getting
protein through my profy protein.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Coffee Profe proffee I like better.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
I use my vanilla almond milk and I mix it
in with my coffee and it's my little latte with
twenty five grams of protein. Not just any protein, high
quality isopure protein.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
I'm glad that we're talking about this, because my favorite
breakfast is a sesame bagel with butter.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
How many rooms protein are in that?

Speaker 1 (09:35):
I don't think any enough?

Speaker 3 (09:37):
None. But now that you're saying this, I can have
my bagel and I can have my profy.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
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That is very key your way protein in here. Creamy
vanilla is legit, Like I can add that into smoothies
an oatmeal, no problem, It's good.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
That's a game changer because you add the vanilla and
it just adds a little extra like ye.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
You're gonna think I'm crazy. But also in my oatmeal,
I will sprinkle sea salt on top.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
What I don't know.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
I just love salty sweets.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
I'm gonna go get a proffee and a bagel. Would
you like one? Praffe? Praffee, praffee?

Speaker 1 (10:19):
All right, now to your feeling of the today.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
Okay, this isn't that crazy, but also it feels crazy
that they did this. I feel relief because I did
an adult thing today and I have changed my last name.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
I feel like I need to put my proffe praffee
pro praffy. I need to put it down, and I
need to clap for you. Thanks guys, that's probably one
of the more annoying things. Like you, there are women
out there that have been married for five, ten, fifteen
years that have wanted to Now. Some women they don't
want to do it, that's fine, respect Others they have

(10:55):
wanted to do it and they just haven't found it
in them. And I would like to say, you have
a disadvantage you.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Have, Adhd. I know, and I'm thank you for acknowledging.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
We need to acknowledge your where you are, I don't
know why I went low, Adhd, I could still go high. Yeah,
we need acknowledge, but wherever the normal brain is, that
would just be like I need to go change my name,
So I shall set up an appointment and go change
my name.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Like that's not us. So thank you, and I probably
how long have you been married? A year and a half?

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Perfect? I feel like that's solid, very very reasonable.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
I probably did it in a really bad time, but
I was like, I have the appointment, I'm already planning
to go. I've already talked myself into going. I have
to do it. But I'm also in the midst of
selling and buying a new house. So I'm sure that
makes the paperwork a little bit confusing because my ID
and my social Security name now don't match. Because here's
the thing. I could go on about this, and I'm

(11:49):
sure you could too. I'm sure any woman who has
changed name could go on about this. You don't just
go to the Social Security office and change your name.
You do that you feel something out online, then you
go there. You have an appointment, but you still have
to wait an hour and a half, even though the
appointment actually takes all of three minutes. You do that,
they give you a piece of paper. You can do
anything else until you have that. Then you have to

(12:11):
get a new driver's license. Then you have to get
another appointment. They have to probably hours of your life.
Then you have to get a new passport. I don't
think that takes hours of your life, but it's expensive.
Then you have to change all your bank accounts. Then
I have to change my professional license. Then I have
to like change the name my car is in this name,
my this is in this name.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Like everything.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
It's like there's a million things to do and it's
hours and hours and hours. And I'm like, what can
we make men do that is equal to this because
I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Oh yeah, we got to shorten the stick on this one.
For sure.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
I think that your husband should have to go with
you to every appointment. Yeah, well technically is paying for it?

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Well, if you have combined accounts, some couples keep everything
separate that, yeah, he doesn't have to do anything.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
Like. I also have a lot of anxiety and I
do not love going to new places where I don't
know what it's going to be like. So I was
texting somebody who has done this, and I was like, Okay,
what do you do when you get there?

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Like are they scary? Like what do you sit somewhere?

Speaker 5 (13:05):
Like? Yeah, I just wanted to know what I was
getting myself into. And if you are going to Nashville,
I will let you know. It's really simple. You just
go in through a door, you check in on your phone,
you sit there and wait until they call your name.
It wasn't bad, but that was part of why it
haven't gone also because I'm like, oh, this feels scary,

(13:25):
but if my husband went with me, I wouldn't have
that fear. Awkward moments are not awkward as much when
you're with somebody else.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah, like when you have a buddy.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
Which also makes me think I'm having like a squirrel
thought when you go to a friend's house like you've
never been to their house before.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Do you hit nervous.

Speaker 5 (13:53):
When you go to a friend's house like you've never
been to their house before. Do you hit nervous, like
nervous about what I'm land? Yes, like if I'm going
to where's the bathroom? Where are the exits? No, not
so much that, but like, am I gonna go knock
on the right door?

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (14:10):
Like A lot of times when I go to somebody's
house for the first time, I'll text them be like
I'm here. She's making sure this is the right place
before I go knock on their door because, oh my gosh,
can you imagine knock, knock, knock, and it's like somebody's grandma.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Like, you're at the wrong house, not your friend's grandma.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
I'm trying to think the last time I went somewhere
knew like a house that was new cry okat just
brought up. We went to our friend Jen's house one
day to lay out the pool and she was already
laying out at her pool. And her house is rather
how shall I put it, large and beautiful, and yeah,
I think I was a little intimidated, but she's big,
down to earth. I think it depends on Like for me,

(14:49):
it's not just any house. I think it just depends
on who I'm meeting because she but she's so cool
and down to earth. It felt comfortable. So I'm trying
to think of anytime I felt awkward or uncomfortable going
to someone's house. I guess I just don't now, I
don't have that feeling like you do.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
You know what I love?

Speaker 5 (15:03):
Okay, what when you're going to a party somewhere and
they have balloons on the mailbox, that's helpful, So shout
out if anybody is planning a shower or a party
for anything. If you're inviting a large amount of people,
one of those people is probably nervous about coming, and
I'm nervous about going to the wrong door.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
So if you just put a little sign or something
so they know.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
I appreciate balloons on if it's difficult to find, like
any corner leading up to the event. Like I like
signs with arrows and balloons because that's really good for
my brain. Because looking at a map, I do get nervous.
But I love when it's like, oh, left here where
the balloons are, and then you'll see more balloons. To
turn right and then you'll see the house that's goot balloons.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
That's legit.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
But that definitely takes thought and time and planning. And
I don't really know what kind of party I'm going
to that has that, but I know that I've had
that situation before, like.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
A wedding, like the backyard wedding reception.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Reception boomah, that has been like out somewhere that's not
easy to navigate, and then you have balloons that guide you.
It's legit. Yeah, Like I could just have that on
a Tuesday, going to somebody's house.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Now you didn't go to my I don't think you
were at my wedding shower.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Were you?

Speaker 3 (16:11):
You would?

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah, you know, because I would remember. I know where
it was. I can't remember why I couldn't go unless
it's so that you didn't invite.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Me you were I'm just kidding. I know, I don't.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
I don't think I could make it.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
I don't remember.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
But every reason it wasn't like just no, don't feel
like it wasn't like, eh, my sister in law and
my brother live on a farm, so their house was
really difficult to get to.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
You literally, why people were like driving down there was
a bunch of cows in the middle of the road
that they had to like honk at.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
It was like a welcoming committee house.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
I would have loved that.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
You actually would have loved it. It was cute. Well
of close cows because they smell and there's a lot
of flies around them.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
It's fine.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Anyway.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
I think she had to put a balloon on the
mailbox because you literally turn and you just turned into
a farm versus like a house.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
So people like that. I think she knows to do that.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
But I'm saying, even if you're house is on a
very normal street and the house number is very clear,
still balloons might help your anxious friends.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yeah, so keep that in mind.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
And maybe the Social Security office with the balloons on
the front of the victor's woe.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, like you're here, You're at the right place. Yeah,
speaking of becoming a wife and you changing your name
to Patrick's last name, like he got you as a
wife and then you went and did all this awesome
stuff for him today to like be a Van Buren.
Yes with him. Yeah, he didn't have to go do
all this work and be at Defada No, and that

(17:33):
interesting thing. You grew up with Dafada and then you
married into Van Buren, Like you have cool last names
either way.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
I will say I had a hard time deciding do
I drop de Fodder or do I drop my middle name.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
That was something that I considered with my mom too,
and I ended up keeping My mom did. Her maiden
was Christopher, and on her license it said Judy Christopher Moffitt,
and so I followed suit like she did, and I
did Amy Moffitt Brown. And then eventually I went back
and I changed it because I messed the Elizabeth because
I love my middle name. So I'm just saying I

(18:07):
had it Moffatt Bround for a while and you changed
and then I changed it to Elizabeth.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
Interesting, So I kept my medal name because it's the
same thing, Like, I love my medal name, and it
was my grandma's name, and I just like like having that,
And I almost kept a Fauda too, but that was like,
that's so annoying, Katherine Mary Defada van.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Buren, Like, what if you hyphenated Catherine Defada van Buren.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
Well, so you know, we've been reading Family of Liars
their names was was it hyphenated? They just had a
double lass name, they had Taft Sinclair. All of the
daughters were they kept?

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, good question. I guess I don't know why it's
that way.

Speaker 5 (18:43):
I assumed because both families were prominent. Yeah, you know,
so I'm like I could have. And also, Patrick, why
didn't we have the conversation that you would also keep
my name?

Speaker 4 (18:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Why is he not? Patrick van Buren Defada. If you hyphenate,
let me tell you first. Yeah, which one goes first?

Speaker 3 (19:01):
The Fata van Buren South.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
I know, I guess you can choose which way you
want hyphenate it, but probably more times than not than
just a mouthful. Yeah you think, yes, Catherine Defada van
Buren is a lot.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
I told you my name that my mom callbab me
when I was younger, right, I'm.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Trying to remember it right now. I know you told me.
We had it on air. We had a whole thing.
Of course, I don't remember it because it was long
Catherine Brittany, Denise, Linda Defata, get your butt in here.

Speaker 5 (19:29):
Yes, Katherine Mary, Elizabeth Francis, Sally Brittany Defada. So what
if it was Katherine Mary, Elizabeth Francis, Sally Britney Defada
van Buren ba'am.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
What if I went to the Social Security Office and
they're like, what would you like to change your name to?

Speaker 5 (19:42):
And I was like, well, Katherine Mary live with Francis.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
What would they say?

Speaker 1 (19:46):
I mean, I mean that you were a little cuckoo.
You can't stop me Cocoa puffs for sure. Well maybe,
I mean I guess they yeah, they can't stop you.
But like chad Ocho Cinco whatever, that football player he
kept changing his name to stuff. Really uh huh, I
don't know. Yeah, Meta World Peace, like lots of different names.
I think it's really really funny that you're like, casually,
do you remember what it was? Almost like you were

(20:08):
testing me and it's like ten names, but you can't remember.
I got, I know, I really wanted to try. And
then once you started doing it, I was like, there's
no way I would ever remember that one Maybe one
day a real friend was, I'll surprise you. Oh my
real friend was, okay, tell me it again.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Well you're gonna have this on video. You can go
back and watch. But Catherine Mayor.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
Because that's how I spent my free time watching your
own video, I'm cringe.

Speaker 5 (20:33):
God, Catherine, Mary Elizabeth. That should be easy, Catherine, Mary Elizabeth,
because it's mine, Okay, Francis, Francis Sally, Sally, Brittany, Jesse, Raphael.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
I was thinking.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Too, Okay, well you are a wife, right to Patrick, yes,
obviously I am, and to anybody else that is listening,
that is a wife. I was a wife. I'm no
longer one.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
Well you may be one in the future.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
I might be one, and I shall be a gift
because that is what we are. I saw this entire
article about how a wife is the cheat code to life.
So men, find yourself one.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Okay, I want to hear why so I can.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Okay, Married men outperform single men across the country in
nearly every category. Married men have higher income ten to
forty percent more than single peers.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
That's a huge.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Higher Yeah, I get that's a huge difference. But still,
even if it's just ten percent higher, that can be
a lot lower risk of depression with a wife, better
physical and mental health, greater career stability, longer life span,
more productive, less likely to engage in risky behavior.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
I'm keeping my husband safe.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Uh huh. So wives multiply everything, because a good wife
doesn't just support, she multiplies. She multiplies your efforts. You're
discipline your legacy. Basically in a nutshell, it's saying men
expand when they have women, and I'm sure we probably
expand too, but like, I think we're already pretty experimented awesome.
They go on to say that for a woman, her

(22:13):
intuition is unmatched and men often lack that. So then
when you've got a good wife, a good partner in that,
and then she also can be your mirror. She can
show your blind spots, not to shame you, but to
shape you.

Speaker 5 (22:27):
As you're saying this, I'm like, yes, companionship that like
relationship that would elevate. The more we have close relationships,
the better that we are in life, whether that's a
spouse or not. But I bet this is different for men.
I haven't read this research article. That's where this came from.
But my assumption would be because men struggle so much
to have vulnerable, deep connection like when they're with the guys.

(22:53):
I mean, I feel like this is a tale as
old as time joke right now, Like my husband will
come home and be like his own and so is
getting married and I'm like.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
Oh my gosh, Like how did they propose? I don't know.
I didn't ask, Like is he excited? I don't know.
I didn't ask. What's the girl's name? I don't know.
I didn't ask.

Speaker 5 (23:09):
And I'm like, so he just said I'm getting married
and you just said okay. Like they don't have these
girls are like, oh my gosh, tell me everything.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
How are you feeling?

Speaker 5 (23:18):
They just don't have the opportunity to connect the same way,
which is also shows up in how they're supported too,
Like I think Patrick has a great group of friends
that are very supportive, but the support I give him
is a deeper, emotional, more I think, all encompassing kind
of support. So that's probably why this is different for

(23:39):
men than women, because we already have that as women
with our female friendships, but men lack that, and so
we come in and fill that. That can be very
exhausting because women are doing it for women and now
they're doing it for men and very exciting.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
I love that. Thank you for that perspective. Licensed therapist,
after welcome the thought of Bean Buiau. Mary van Buren, Sorry, Catherine,
Mary van Buren.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
Do you think it would be weird if I went
by Katherine Mary nor?

Speaker 1 (24:08):
I would feel like it was more of a Southern thing,
like for you to have like two.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Names, but it's supposed to be marry Katherine.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
True, but I would just think, oh, look at her.
She likes to do things opposite.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
She's unique, unique New York, Unique New York.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
How now brown Cow? How now brown Cow? Have you
tried Alex Kooper's unwell drinks? No me, neither. You haven't either,
But I thought about buying one at Target the other day.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
They're at Target.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah, they're a target, feel like, I don't know, but
they are there and I saw it, and the only
thing that stopped me is I really wanted to drink it,
like I needed some to drink, and I wanted it
then like I wanted.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
It nothing else?

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Well, no, there was, so I ended up getting just water.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Have you watched her documentary yet?

Speaker 1 (25:08):
I have Okay, I liked it. Okay, thought was good.
I learned a lot about her. I haven't listened to her,
but I thought the documentary, being that I didn't know
much about her, I was very intrigued and very impressed,
very very impressed.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
I think she's a likable person.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
But for anybody who doesn't know about like the rebrand
of calling.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Yeah, because I never gonna make her so much more
relatable and likable.

Speaker 5 (25:31):
And I think I might not listen every week, but
there are a lot of episodes I listen to.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Speaking of I just listened to.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
When I was telling you about Renee Rapp, didn't really
know much about her.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
She's so cool.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Okay, I'm gonna have to go check out that, because
you I don't think I know who.

Speaker 5 (25:45):
She's unapologetically herself, but not in a like I was
about to say, insufferable way.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
I don't know. I just liked her.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
I was drang, she's like in an authentic way, because
sometimes people are trying to be unapologetically themselves and then
it's like it feels off.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
I think there's probably some things that her PR team
is like, oh no, but it's working well.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yeah, yeah is what it is. I don't even know
alexis Earl. You know, it's not her name. What's her name,
Alex Earl.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Alex Earl, ale Alex Cooper. That's why Okay, it's so
crazy alexis No, it's Alex a L.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
I x Oh. Maybe that's why I just know what
I see on social media because I haven't followed a lot.
I don't listen to their podcast and I don't I
don't even not even an Alex Earl fan. I just
know that she is, evidently from the get go who
coined the get Ready with Me videos and that's how
that sort of started. And I know she's huge and

(26:42):
made a name for herself and has crazy brand deals
and whatnot. But I guess she started a podcast under
Alex Cooper's unwell, and then it was now it's called
it's called okay, and now they're dunze donzo like what
that's the tea I want? And I don't even know,
but I would like to understand what happened because I think,
just as you know. And then Alex Cooper, her original

(27:05):
co host, don't call her daddy, they did not end
on good terms.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
They must not have sib Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
If they just had the little essay like, hey, SIB, Yeah, yeah,
I think I sib.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Maybe SIV.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
I am really curious because I was like deep in
the Sophia and Alex breakup thing.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
I was so interested in that because.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
The original coast and call her daddy okay, and oh gosh,
that is a bummer for her. See I only knew
about her because of the documentary.

Speaker 5 (27:33):
Okay, So like I didn't listen to call her daddy
back then because that's it.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Was very different.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
By different, you mean like very sexual and not my vibe.
But also she that's a marketing genius, like she knows
she's doing.

Speaker 5 (27:47):
And I was watching her documentary and I was like, dang,
if I could be more like her, that would be
awesome because that would make me.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
I mean, who knows.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
I'm sure there's other people that have tried to do
that and they didn't get sixty million dollar deals, but
I would never and like I don't have those some
of those stories to talk about anyway. But also like
her like family and stuff, like would listen and like
go to her shows and.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
I know her dad's like in the audience. I think
her parents are super cute, and I guess I like
the way they can be open about that sort of
stuff and it's like a safe space. And it seems
like but she's grandma and her mom like they raise them,
like let's talk about everything. So she obviously felt comfortable
doing that. But yeah, I don't think I could ever
talk about those things.

Speaker 5 (28:27):
I mean I think also as a therapist and as
a professional person, I couldn't probably do the things that
she was doing, not just talking about like sex and stuff,
but I mean she just was a character online doing funny,
crazy things, and you do it until it works. I'm
sure a lot of people were like, she's so weird,
but like look at.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
Her now, right, And I mean there's stuff she'd had
to shift because even with HR, she's like, oh, you know,
probably shouldn't be advising people to do X y Z,
and she's had to mature and grow and evolve and
she has.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:56):
Anyway, when her and Alex got together, it felt like
it was like gonna be this cute like mentorship thing
because I think Alex is in our early twenty Alex,
Alex Earl is in her early twenties. Alex Cooper is
I think thirty thirty one ish, so I was like, Oh,
this is gon be so cool that they can mentor
each other. So I've been trying to do a little sleuthing,

(29:19):
but I couldn't tell you one thing. I have some ideas,
but they're not rooted in anything, so it would be
kind of gossipy just to share them.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
But I think both of them are going to probably
capitalize on that story at some point.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
It's just when there are multiple podcast duos that have
just split without like who explanation. I just see the
drama unfolding online. I don't know them because I don't listen,
but it just makes me think, like I'm glad we
have a solid foundation and relationship that will what if
one day, like or me, but I snapped you or

(29:52):
you just did one of us just disappears and.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
We don't talk about it. Like how do I get.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Certain things being private? Like I've had certain relationsis ships
that have ended and what has unfolded is private. I'm
talking about relationships that are in a work relationship that
is very public together like a podcast. Let's just leave
podcasts as the only example of what I'm talking about,
because that's actually these relationships I'm talking about online and

(30:18):
It's weird how it sucks you in because some of
them I click on TMZ or this article or this
thread about what, and I don't know these people at all,
And next thing, you know, twenty minutes has passed, and
I'm trying to figure out, like why their podcasts broke
up and why they hate each other.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
And but what's happened interesting that you're more You weren't
interested in their podcast, and you might not have even
known about it, but you are interested about the drama
of the podcast.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Maybe it's just that I want to figure out what happens,
so then maybe I can make sure like I don't
want this to happen to us, which I don't think
it will. But I wonder what that because I don't
deep dive on every quote unquote breakup. But I guess
the thing about the podcast splits I find interesting could
bring you see there's another one that who's Dax's Oh.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
My gosh, yes, Okay, well, I think there's way more
to this.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
So Liz Plank was a co host on The Man Andough.

Speaker 5 (31:10):
Podcast, which was a really good podcast hosted by her,
Justin Baldoni and another guy named Jamie Heath, which I
know a lot of people have feelings about all of that,
and then she also had a podcast, We Need a
Family Chart, Dak Shepherd and Monica have I'm Armchair Expert.
Monica had a podcast with Liz Plank called like Cycle
Sinking or something like that, and it was on the

(31:33):
Armchair Expert feed.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
That went away.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
I think Dax Shepherd got a new deal somewhere and
that podcast went away, and then Monica and Liz are
no longer friends, and then Liz also left man Enough,
and I think man Enough just collapsed because of all
of the drama happening with him and Blake Lively. So
I'm just curious, like what happened with Monica because they

(31:57):
were best friends and had this really seemingly fun relationship,
and what happened with Justin Baldoni, because Liz hasn't said anything.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
About it, which I wish.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
I think is okay because I've had things in my
life I'm not going to say anything about, and I
think it's out of respect for the other person, so
I can appreciate that. So while I am still curious,
and that's sort of the theme of this episode, because
I was curious if you would tell me if I've
let us in my teeth and I'm curious now if
you should hyphenate your name or not, and then I'm

(32:28):
curious about some of these podcast breakups. But also I
respect that it's none of my business if we don't
get all the details, and it's like, okay, fine, I
may never know. And it's not like I spent living.
It's not living rent free like some things in my
mind do, like where is Amy Bradley? But I still
don't know. But I respect it because people ask me
about things in my life that I'm just not gonna address.

(32:52):
I'm just not gonna Yeah, and it's out of respect.
I guess I shouldn't use the word never ever ever,
but at this point I'm not, and if I ever did,
it would be from my perspective and my perspective only,
and not you know what, I think you've hurt anybody.

Speaker 5 (33:09):
I hear what you're saying, and this is that's a
different I think, I like, get ready to say this.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
It's not that big of a deal to count. Let
me get ready.

Speaker 5 (33:17):
I think that a lot of people who are not
speaking about certain things. A lot of people are not
speaking about things because it's respect it's their privacy, it's
them having boundaries. I think other people don't say things
because they are waiting for the best moment to share
some big news.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Like there was Sheena say, I do love.

Speaker 5 (33:36):
Interpub rules, rip to that cast, but she just recently
came out with and this is like I haven't read
the article.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
I just read the headlines.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
But like her, I guess husband cheated on her while
she was pregnant, but she didn't share that information while
it would have been like more pressing on the show,
which could have created a whole storyline on the show,
because I think it's when the whole sam of all
things happened.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
So she's like, I have this big bomb.

Speaker 5 (34:04):
I don't want to let that fizzle if this other
thing is going to take over, right, So I have
to find a better time. So she waits two years
and then she shares it. Now this is me speculating,
but like that's an example where people might not be
sharing things just because they're waiting for the right time.
So we just have to be patient so they can
profit off of sharing their personal information, which they should.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Or sometimes people yes, like there was that bomb you're saying,
but like there could be a book deal, and like
their book is coming out and they're going to put
it in the book, which I could see waiting to
save it to put in the book.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
And then now it's smart. I'm saying that, like, not
as a bad thing. I'm saying like, that's smart.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
Like sometimes we just have to be patient because like,
if they're going to share this part of their life
that's so personal, which I don't know that I would
let them make some money off of it.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Let them, let them shoot. Oh my gosh, I don't
think I told you this. On the Bobby Bone Show,
read Chat GPT wrote obituaries for the main cast of
the show. Wait that is so dark, so morbid, right,
but whatever, it was also entertaining, Okay, So they wrote
it for Bobby, Me, Lunchbox, and Eddie. So four obituaries

(35:18):
and Ray read them and chat GPT ended mine with
something like I can't remember exactly, but like everybody that
attended the funeral got like a choose Joy bracelet and
like a let them tattoo or something I'm paraphrasing, but
it ended with let them And I was like, no, no, no, no,
let them. I yelled that on the during the segment

(35:41):
like I with no explanation, like no, like we have
a whole deep dive on mel Robbins let them theory,
and now I'm you know, no, let them Let them
is okay in certain circumstances, but I'm not an overall
let them theory. Girl.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
That's interesting, I know.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Maybe, but maybe because that it pulls things from and
because we have maybe the let them very deep dive,
then maybe it associates that with Amy Brown and so
then they're like, you know, because it had the choose
joy in there, and it had like that I was
gonna have what are the essential oils at my funeral?

(36:19):
And you know I put essential oils on my dryer balls.
Oh yeah, So like things that I've said or things
that are out there, it pulled.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
I was funny, You're gonna have choose joy bracelet. And
it depends hat.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yes, it depends choose joy, but not always because maybe
choose joy.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
When it's appropriate, and it depends when that is going
to be.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
That's also the whole thing with Pimp and joy and
my mom wasn't It was more that my mom was
spreading joy and then choosing joy of herself, but also
leaning into the hard moments, like for my mom, Pimp
and Joy was neamia e ten, which was the joy
of the Lord is my strength, So I'm going to
have joy and I'm gonna spread joy. And she would
just talk to everybody at the hospital. That's why when

(37:01):
Walker Hayes wrote the Joy Like Judy song about Pimp
and Joy for my mom, he put the line in
there that was stood out to him the most was
that he was like, she even be talking to people
in the elevators, because my mom who talks to people
in the elevators, and especially when you're on your way
to treat like you're feeling horrible and blah and you're
going in for chemo, and my mom felt like total crap,
and she would make it a point to be like, oh,

(37:24):
I love your scar for you have a pretty sweater,
or how long have you been coming here? Like she
would make conversations just especially to the people that were
there alone, because some people my mom never went to
a treatment alone, and we would see people there all
the time alone and that's got to be hard. So anyway,
that's Pimp and Joy, spread joy all the joy. Maybe
we serve Profy God, prof got it.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
We serve pro with it English accent.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
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just take the coffee and you take a little milk.
I prefer unsweetened vanilla almond milk with a scoop of
unflavored I supure protein. It'll give you twenty five grams
of high quality protein. Like why is anything more fun

(38:17):
in a British accent? Like sound better in a British accent?
Like it sounds more credible. I mean I'm credible, Like
I use is supure protein? Like I'm credible, I'm credible
smart British meat? Doesn't it sound more like delable? Like
it makes you want to try it, doesn't it? I
do you want to put it in your oatmeal?

Speaker 3 (38:37):
You mean my protmeal?

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Yes, your oatmeal with protein? I forgot protmeal. M Oh
how about creamy vanilla?

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Creamy krimmi? Krimmi?

Speaker 1 (38:49):
How do you krim crima vanilla?

Speaker 5 (38:51):
I think that English people sound more did well Americans.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Also, I'm watching The Gilded Age right now, and that's obviously.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
You've been watching that for years.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
I have the new seasons back.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Oh it's like season four.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
I think so the way they spoke. I mean, this
is New York society, and I love the way they speak.
Everything its not indeed, oh oh indeed, Oh take a seat.
You must be famished. I'm like, oh dad, you're like, dang,
I'm starving. Anybody got some I supure protein? And then

(39:30):
the bit it's like, oh do you want some isopure?

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (39:34):
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Speaker 5 (39:42):
Is there a word that you wish you said in
your vocabulary? What do you mean, like a elevated word
that you want to integrate into your Oh?

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Like I said, like a word?

Speaker 3 (39:52):
I just yeah. If you're like, I want to start
saying famished instead of this, or I want to say like.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Well I sort of just started using it today. Coffee delectable,
oh hmm, fantastic.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
No, fantastic is not like a well what are you
the word police?

Speaker 4 (40:09):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
What do you have one?

Speaker 2 (40:13):
No?

Speaker 3 (40:13):
But I think that so delicious. I think you use
that word. I just have been thinking.

Speaker 5 (40:20):
I listen to a lot of audiobooks and I'm like,
I want to start reading them because I don't think
I take it in as.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Much of the like the new habits.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
Yes, and I want sometimes I think that I just
like am grabbing for a word that I don't have
in my head yet and I need more words.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
So you want to be athosaurus? Yes, Yes, me too.
I was real proud of my son the other day
and I don't know why, but I guess I know why.
But I guess I shouldn't be surprised, right. I don't
want to be like, wow, you're a new word today,
because he's going to be fifteen, so it's like wow.
But when they do need maybe it's because English is

(40:57):
their second language. Yeah, when they do use new words words,
I find myself being like, hey, all right. I mean
I try not to like make a huge just low.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Key like in some emergency confetios.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Like oh, but my son was asking me a question
about cancer and because like both my mom and my
dad had it, and then he said, well, so if
somebody else in your family has it, which this is
a conversation we have never had before, and he's using
this word you'll hear it in a second, And I'm
just like, where would he have picked up on that?
Because I don't know that it's a word that he

(41:28):
would have learned in school unless they've talked about it
anyway here it is. So he just looked at me
and he said, so, does that mean that you're going
to be more prone to get cancer? And in my mind,
I was like, he just used prone, Like I was
just really impressed by that because I don't know that
that's a word that gets used a lot, and it's

(41:49):
we don't talk about that in our home. I mean,
he knows that my parents had it, but I've never
been like that means I might be more prone or susceptible.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
Or maybe it was I was impressed. Maybe it was
his prone prone. Maybe it was his school's word of
the week. Because when I was in middle school, we
had the word wizard, and the word wizard would come
on the announcements every Monday, and a wizard crossed him
and share with us the words.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Okay, it was our assistant principle.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
I am going to ask him if they have a
word of the week, But I was just I loved
that he used the word prone. So to your point,
we could do that with ourselves, like maybe be our
own little word wizards and give ourselves new words to use,
and then have we done that before, Like on here.

Speaker 5 (42:35):
Stick we did the word of the week on the
fifth thing. We did like twice, but we would pick
words that were like not good.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
They just weren't like beautiful.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
What did you say? Delicious? Your word of the week
is delicious? Definition? Is it tastes good?

Speaker 1 (42:56):
You're oh, exquisite? Cry?

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Okay, exquisit that you have exquisite? Yes, this proffy is delicious.
You must have exquisite taste. There you ca. That was
really hard for me to say.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
I feel like you're reminding me of Parent Trap, Lindsay
Lohan's character that's British. You sounded like that, you know,
because she's playing both the America.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
The different between me and you. Oh you have I
have class and you don't. I feel like I just
sounded like not the parent Trap. She had a cute voice.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
That is such a cute movie Parent Trap. I love that.
And Lindsay Lohan like talk about comeback, Like she just
was doing a bunch of press for the Freaky Friday,
New Freaky Friday movie, and I'm like, yay, I'm celebrating
that that comeback. Like Lindsay Lohan seems to be doing
really well. She lives in Dubai.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
Yeah did you hear that? Yeah, and her husband is
like one of the wealthiest men.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Oh really, I guess I didn't know that part.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
I just sorry.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
We're talking about how she lives in Dubai and it's
great because taking pictures of people there, like celebrities or
just normal people is illegal. Really, she can't. You can't
pull out your phone and start recording somebody doing anything. Okay, Well,
we hope that you're having the day that you need
to have. And if there's any takeaway from this episode,
it is stay curious and drink your profee and drink
your coffee, and don't forget to use our code Feel

(44:24):
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say it to English I supure protein dot com and
that link will be in the show notes. But really,
if you want to join us in trying this and
upping your protein woo like us whoo subscribe you were saying,
like us, like not like and subscribe. I mean we're

(44:45):
trying to be so intentional about our intake, our consumption
A good word, yeah, just like every word. I could
do this. I just have to stop and think, like,
what's the elevated word of eat consumption, consume, consume.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
I consumed some chicken for dinner.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Yeah, okay, we'll work on this, Okay, all right, Kat.
Until next time, I hope you have the day you
need to have. Boy,

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