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September 20, 2025 45 mins

When Carley found herself constantly thinking about food—either obsessing over dieting or feeling like a failure for not being able to stick with anything—she knew something had to change. She was sick of the all-or-nothing mindset, the endless rules, and the guilt that always followed. But as the youngest woman to ever go through the Stressless Eating program, she also knew she didn’t want to carry this struggle into the rest of her life.

In this episode, Carley opens up about what it felt like to be trapped in a cycle of food obsession, why she finally decided to get help, and how she rewired her brain to break free. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by all the conflicting advice out there or wondered if you’d ever find peace with food, Carley’s journey will show you that real, lasting change is possible—at any age.

HOST: Leanne Ellington // StresslessEating.com // @leanneellington 

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
If you want to go on a journey. If you're skeptical,
don't worry not get a preach gonn to keep it
clean and talk to me and recaud where faith needs,
fos of nature and get in touch with your creator
with a bacon, love and jew.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
She even speaks Hebrew.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
What's that, gotzato?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
What's that? This will sabosation?

Speaker 1 (00:38):
You should talking transformation?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
What's that gonzatu?

Speaker 3 (00:44):
It's leanne here and what you're about to hear are
real stories from real women who not only face their
deepest struggles with food in their bodies, but also chose
to invite God into their journey of healing. These women
have battled their demons in race their faith and found
freedom on the other side. These are the raw, unfiltered

(01:05):
journeys of women just like you, once trapped in mental prisons,
caught in the endless cycle of food obsession, and weighed
down by feelings of failure and shame. And I'm sharing
these with you today because I want you to know
that no matter how stuck or out of control you
feel right now, there is a way out, especially when
you welcome God into the process. So if you're feeling

(01:29):
broken or lost or like you're the only one who
struggles with this.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
You are not.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
You're not alone, and you are definitely not beyond hope
or healing. These stories are living proof that true transformation
is possible when you invite God to be part of
your healing. I hope they inspire you to see what's
possible for yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
So let's dive on in.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
All right, Well, we are live and hello, Hello, and
I'm here with my amazing client, karl who has been
so gracious to share her journey, her story, her truth.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
You're going to hear from her directly.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
But you know, really, one of the reasons I'm so excited,
among other things.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
For Karly to share her journey, is because she is
literally the.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Youngest person who has ever come through the Stressless Seeding program,
And so every person that comes through the program has
their own story of like am.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
I too old? Am I to this? Am I too
far gone? And and we're.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Going to talk about how age played a factor.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
In your journey as well.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
But just you know, one of the reasons that when
we talked about even just sharing your story, like you
were just like, hey, I can show other twenty somethings
that you don't have to live like this, and you
can you know kind of you know, heal this before
you bring it forward into your life. Then you know,
that was one of the big motivations for you being
here today.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
So thank you in advance.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
Hello.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
First of all, say hi Tom.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
Love, say hello. Thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely so. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
I mean what I'd love to do is just kind of,
you know, dive right in and just kind of share
a little bit about you really, you know, first off,
just kind of talked to us a little bit about,
you know, where were you just a few months ago
before you started this program. What was your life, like,
what was your relationship with food, like, what was your
relationship with your body? Like, like where were you in

(03:15):
your journey before we met.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
Yeah, so before starting this program, I was twenty three,
just navigating the first year out of college, which is
just a crazy weird transition time in general of half
the people your age are partying every weekend still and
people are getting married and everyone just kind of trying

(03:38):
to figure out like what their next steps are. And
so I just was really in that transition phase that
kind of brought to light the problems I was having
with food that I had been in denial about for
a long time. I had known I had an emotional
reliance and just not healthy relationship with food, not healthy

(04:00):
relationship with my body. But it kind of brought to
light going through like a stressful transition period, how big
of a problem it was, and that I could no
longer deny it anymore. And so I just was in
a cycle of binging and restricting with food, and food
just took up so much of my mental energy. I

(04:23):
think one of the things I told you when we
first had our first call was that one of the
things that bothers me is food is taking up so
much of my headspace that I'm not being present with
the people I want to be present with, and that
also really bothered me. I would be at a cookout
or you know, going to eat with friends, and prior

(04:43):
to even going, I would be stressed about checking the
menu and what foods I had deemed good and bad
and what I could eat and couldn't eat. And it
was just this like such a thing that like just
took up so much headspace, but like no one around
me even really me that I was thinking about it,
and maybe people didn't even know that I wasn't being present,

(05:05):
but I knew that I wasn't being as present as
I wanted and like could be and should be to
the people I care about the most. And then that
it was just the cycle of shame and guilt and
binging and restricting, and I felt guilt about not being
the best friend or daughter sister that I could be.

(05:28):
And then also just complete self rejection and negative self
talk about my body. And I wasn't even necessarily like
quote unquote overweight, but just so judgmental of everything about
my body, constant comparison to other people, what I see
on Instagram, just complete like judgment of my body and

(05:50):
letting that hold me back and not wearing clothes I
wanted to wear and doing the things I wanted to
do because I was so judgmental my body. I would
project that judgment on other people that they couldn't that
they when I would meet someone new in my head,
all they were looking at were the flaws that I

(06:11):
saw in my body. I just felt stuck.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
You bring up a couple of things that I mean,
people that are listening to this right now can absolutely
resonate with this idea that like food and dieting and restriction,
whether it was like what you were eating and what
you weren't eating, because you were on both.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
Ends of the spectrum. You know, it's almost like this.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Full time job. It's like always with.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Us, you know, Like and then I know you were
in school and working and just being a college student
at the time, you know, and it's just like it's
always part of your life.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
You know. And I think we can all resonate with that.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
But something else that you said is and this is
what I want to be clear and for anyone listening,
Like this problem is not like we've talked about before.
It's not a food problem. It's not a weight problem
you even said. It's not even like even.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Not being overweight, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
It's a feeling when we feel that way about ourselves.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
It's not logical.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
It doesn't matter what our body looks like. It is
how we perceive ourselves. And I mean it doesn't discriminate
like whatever size you wear, whatever you know, weight you weigh,
this problem doesn't discriminate against or for that, you know
what I mean. So it's you're driving home some really
important points and I think really that was the thing.
It's like when you have this struggle and just like

(07:22):
you were saying, nobody knew, like it was.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
Your deepest health secret, and you put on this happy face.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
You know, and nobody knew, but you knew it was
everywhere that you went twenty four hours a day.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
Yeah, I woke up thinking about food. I woke I
went to bed thinking about food. It's just there was
so much just chatter and clutter about like I can
standard myself a healthy person. I strive to be healthy
and eat healthy and thought I had a healthy relationship
with working out and worked out six days a week,

(07:54):
and there's just so much out there of like eat this,
don't eat that, yea, like one person size this is good,
but other person size this is bad. And so it
was just like I was making an effort to like
try to be healthy, but there was just so much
out there where I just overanalyzed everything I did and

(08:15):
eight And it wasn't until this programer I was like, Okay,
let's stop all of the outside chatter and kind of
like force me to tap into like my inner wisdom
and my body of like what makes me feel good?
How do I? Yeah, forget the what everyone else says?
But really like listen to myself of letting my body

(08:37):
guide the decisions of what I eat.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Right, Yeah, and your thoughts see likes totally shifting your thoughts.
It's so interesting because you know, every woman that I
talked to that is in a position that you were
just a few months ago, they feel like, man, am
I am I lazy?

Speaker 4 (08:51):
And my weak willed and myself sabotager?

Speaker 3 (08:53):
And it's like no, like ninety nine point nine percent
of the time, these are the hardest working women that.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Like, you know, it was for lack of commitment or
lack of trying. You were trying all the things.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
It was just again just like everybody else following this
broken model and there it's such a loud chatter of
a model, Like everywhere you go, everywhere you scroll, it's
like try this, don't do that, the good, the bad,
the right, the wrong, the should the shouldn't, and it
just gets so confusing and overwhelming.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
And that's you know again where you were as well.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
Yeah, and it just felt like, Okay, I'm like succeeding
in all these other areas of my life, Like why
is this the one thing that I can't figure out?
And I think that's where a lot of the shame
came from, and me not wanting to open up to
other people about it. And I don't think I realized
how many people struggle with the same things because it

(09:45):
seems like everyone else doesn't and social media and Instagram,
and this is something we talked about a lot. It
just was the perception and again my own thoughts about
other people and how things here to be.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Absolutely and as we're learning, appearances can be very deceiving.
It's like, you know, you can put on this happy face.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
But like, what is it really?

Speaker 5 (10:08):
So?

Speaker 3 (10:08):
How has your life changed as a result of enrolling
in the Program's What's Different?

Speaker 5 (10:23):
So?

Speaker 4 (10:23):
How has your.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Life changed as a result of enrolling in the program?

Speaker 2 (10:27):
What's Different?

Speaker 5 (10:28):
I mean everything? And it all comes back to the thoughts.
And I have a whole new way and system of
thinking about myself, about my body, about food, just about
life in general. I feel like I have all of
this mental energy to do other things that I want

(10:51):
to do that I spent thinking about food and analyzing
food and analyzing my body. All those that time thinking
about those things. I now get to harness and direct
and like, oh weights, and it just feels so good.
I feel like I've lost twenty pounds, you know, of

(11:13):
just mental.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Weight, yeah, the weight of the weight.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
And that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
It's like what you were saying before, of all this
time that you were spending it was like a full
time job.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
It's like you get your life back, you get your.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Time back, You get to be present in those conversations
and then those relationships. You know, so as it is
for all of us, it's ever evolving, but like, what
is your relationship with food? Like what is your relationship
with yourself? Like, like what is your yeah, just relationship
with all of your your thoughts and your mindset, your emotions.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
How is that shifted?

Speaker 5 (11:44):
It's transformed? And just my first thoughts always are checking
in with myself and what I want and how I
want to feel, and those two questions guide everything and
comes to my relationship with exercise. You know, before starting
this program, it was like I did these super high

(12:06):
intensity workouts six days a week that I felt like
I had to do to be quote unquote healthy, and
it was something I had to like check off my
to do list, and I was like getting praise for
it and giving myself praise for it. But it wasn't
really a healthy relationship. I was rejecting my body on
days where it needed rest to just check off the

(12:28):
check mark of doing this super high intensity workout, and
the belief that a workout had to be super high
intensity to be a quote unquote you know, good workout
or good for you. And so just my relationship with
and I don't even like to say exercise anymore, just
movement has like changed, and it's so cool because I

(12:50):
still loved to do those type of workouts, and there's
the days where my body is like, you need to
go just hard in the gym today, you need to
to not be able to breathe, you know. But there's
other days where it's like I'm going to go for
a walk and stretch today, and like that feels so good.
And that is movement, and that my goal is just

(13:12):
to move when whatever way that feels good to my body.
So it's just been so cool to tap into like
just listening to what my body wants and being okay
with whatever that is for the day. And same thing
with food of just it's okay that there's some days
I'm more hungry than others, it's okay, like to listen

(13:35):
to your body and what I mean to have the
goal to want to nourish yourself, but also to listen
to your body and when I'm hungry to eat and not.
You know, in the past, I felt like I could
only eat in like a certain window, and you know,
all those types of things. Had complete carb phobia. Like
I said before, just stressed about the social aspect of eating.

(13:58):
And so it's just so cool to like get invited
to go out to eat with a friend and not
feel like I have to dictate where we go eat
because I can only eat at certain places to get
certain things. Like I can order pizza and like have
the pizza and be totally fine with it. But it
also not turned into a binge because I'm allowing myself

(14:19):
to have the quote unquote what I had deemed a
bad food and I can have two three slices of
pizza and then I'm good and really not coming from
a place of lack and coming from a place of
abundance around food was the thing that changed it all.
If I'm allowed to have this, I'm going to have

(14:40):
as many bites as I need. And that's okay, because
if I want it against tomorrow I'll eat it again tomorrow,
and I will again just have a few bites instead of, oh,
this is the one time I'm allowing myself to have
the food I'm not supposed to eat, so I'm going
to eat every food I'm not so seat. And that
was really the behind the scenes that no one else
got to see. If I would go to the restaurant

(15:02):
with the friend and eat the salad and everyone's like, oh, Carly,
you're so healthy, like and like praising me for my
eating habits, and not the shame was the well, you
don't see what happens when I'm alone or behind the scenes.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah, yeah, Oh my gosh, so many powerful distinctions, you know.
The first thing that you mentioned was this idea of
so many people have this like very punishment driven relationship
with exercise, and it's a have to need to suppose
to force persuade yourself, but also like a very harder
foster more. And you know, even just the word exercise
has a lot of connotations associated with it that people

(15:36):
think of all of those things I just mentioned, and
I love that you were just like, yeah, I don't
even call it exercise anymore.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
It's just movement.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
And sometimes that means like getting my butt kicked and
sweating my you know, sweating out all all the things,
you know, and sometimes that means moving and stretching. But
it's based on my version of what I need that day,
you know. And I think another distinction that you brought up,
and I don't know how much you've been exposed to this,
but a lot of people that I talked to get
exposed to the whole like intuitive eating thing and just

(16:03):
listen to your body. And it's always like, well, how
do I do that? My intuition is broken, so to speak,
Like my gauge is broken. I don't know what it
even means like, and that's where it's like, there's no more.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Rules, it's the tools.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
It's like, here's how to actually bridge that gap. Like
listening to your body and connecting to your body is
really great in theory, but like I don't if you're
not ever taught how to do it, it's like, how
do I actually do that? And that's really what you're
talking about, is like you brought that conceptual thing to
life and now you have it, and just like I share,
you know, you're on the calls.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
I'm like, I can't tell you what that is for you.
But I can give you the.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Framework and ask you the questions to help you figure
out what that is for you, because that's your unique recipe,
like your new association with exercise, your new association with food.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
I'm just sitting over here, you see me, just smiling.
I'm just so excited.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
For you because, just like you, most of the women
that I talk to there, you know, it's always like
the conversation that you're having right now now, you know,
when we first met, it's every woman I talked to
is like, what if I'm the one person this doesn't
work for?

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Like, I feel so far gone. It's all I've ever known,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (17:09):
So how does it feel to even just share what
you're sharing right now? Like what would you have said
to yourself a few months ago?

Speaker 2 (17:15):
I mean, is it? Does it even feel real? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (17:19):
I wouldn't have believed I would have been sitting here
a few months ago. I was hopeful, but like again,
it is that belief and like insecurity that I might
be the one person like that this doesn't work for.
And so it's cool to kind of be on the
other side and just see how quick I think that

(17:40):
also has part of my jaw is like, is it
really gonna happen in like a few months? You know,
LE am like, is that really possible? Because I've been
living the same way for so long, you think I
was it. In just a few months that can be
completely different. And so it's really cool to be the
person on the other side and to be having these

(18:04):
conversations at the age that I am, and that I
get to have this for the rest of my life.
You know, I think I knew when we talked, and
the first time we talked, it just felt like you
were kindred spirits, like I had just like known you,
and I told you, like, I don't want to live
like this forever, and I don't when I have children

(18:26):
one day, I don't want to, you know, morph their
beliefs around food and their body in a negative way,
because I have those beliefs about myself. And so I'm
just proud of myself that I went through all of
this and invested in this and in myself now and

(18:47):
I'm already seeing the fruits of that. But I know
it's only going to be greater as I move forward.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
And that's what I see to everybody.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
I'm like listen, Like this is not a magic pill,
like you are going to work your butt off. But
the reason and it's so powerful is because we do
it so intensively rather than like spreading.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
It out over like an hour a week for years.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
It's like, let's just hit this up in twelve weeks
and like hit the nail on the head.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
But you know, one of the things that you and.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
I also had a conversation about, and I'll just be
the first submit like you and I talked about this
and it came up on the call last week, is
like you shifted my beliefs.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
I used to have a belief that you needed to be.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
A certain well, you definitely need to be like a
certain maturity level because a lot of people, the truth
is a lot of women your age aren't.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Necessarily ready to have these conversations.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
Like there's a lot and I'm generalizing, And again I'll
be the first to admit, like you are the first
person that shifted my beliefs. You know, there's a lot
of women I talk to they want to get in
their skinny jeans fast, they want to lose a bunch
of weight really quickly, And that's obviously not the conversation
that we're having, right, But there's also a lot of
women that want to, like you know, talk about the
problem and psychoanalyze it to death and spend years in
therapy to not fix it or worse like stay stuck

(19:53):
as a victim to why they'll never fix it.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
And obviously, you.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
Know, we talk about that a lot, like being a
victim to.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Our own story, like that is a is a non
negotiable too. I can't help people that are stuck in
their victim story. And you and I had a conversation
about your age, you know, and you were the first
person that I was like, wow, you know what, this
is not an age thing.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
This is not a demographic. It's a psychographic.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
It's a willingness and it's a conversation.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
And it came from your end too, because you asked
about the age of people I work with. I was like, yeah,
normally it's you know, thirties, forties, fifty sixties. And you
had fears too, like, oh, is it going to be
a disconnect And we were talking about this the other
day like it actually made it that much better. Can
you just speak to that? So if there's anybody who's listening,
that is, you know, in your age bracket, and now

(20:36):
we have somebody in the program that you just met
that's even younger, she's twenty. And because again my beliefs
have been shifted and now I know it's a psychographic
not a demographic, and a willingness and an eagerness to
solve this. Well, first of all, i'd love to hear
what were your thoughts about your age and how it
related to this, and what would you say to anybody.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
That's your age about healing this.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
Now. I think that when you told me, because I
had no idea of the age is of people you
worked with, I honestly assumed that there was people my age,
and so I was a little surprised when you told
me that there wasn't. And that also kind of sparked
a little insecurity in my mind of especially just joining

(21:17):
the group, of like am I gonna relate to these
other women and are they going to relate to me?
Or just be like, oh this little girl that it's
like here. But it was so cool to see how
much we related, like there was no one that I
did not relate with, And I think it just like

(21:40):
fueled me even more because I saw so much of
myself and these other women. It gave me more drive
to kind of focus in now because I just saw
myself thirty years down the road. I wish more people
my age were ready for this conversation, and I think
there probably are a lot of people that are ready,

(22:01):
they just haven't been exposed to this type of conversation
and just the beliefs. It starts with the beliefs. Every
weight loss program, diet hack, whatever, all virtually is the
exact same thing because they none of them go deeper

(22:21):
than that. And I just would love more people my
age to even be exposed that this is a conversation
that you can be having and it's never too early
to have the conversation, and that it's a conversation that
is literally will change the trajectory of your life. And
it's one of the things we've talked about of the longevity,

(22:41):
and we're thinking in the long term and not the
short term anymore. It's not the zero to one hundred
instant self ratification you know the world that I think,
especially people my age, are very accustomed to, just with
like social media, and that's one of the things I
did of total social media break during this program and

(23:02):
is the best thing I ever did, because I don't know,
which is scary to kind of think about the since
I've had Instagram, I don't know if there's been a
day I haven't been on Instagram. And so it's just
without even realizing it, and it's so subconscious, but it's
just because it's, you know, kind of the age of

(23:24):
my generation that you just put so much stock and
likes and you know, all of those types of things.
And so one of the biggest things for me was
shifting from thinking about all those short term things and
the instant avocation to having conversations about longevity.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Absolutely, and you said it's the best.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
It all starts with your beliefs, and I just want
to thank you for shifting.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
My beliefs about that because you're right.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
And I think back to myself when I was twenty three,
and gosh, I wish somebody had had these kinds of
conversations with me, you know, And I think you're right.
There are gals your age. Now we know it to
be true. It's like the first person that broke the
four minute mile back in you know how whatever year
that was, and then it got broken again and again
it's like, you're right, there's there's a need for this,
and the women that are ready are ready, and it

(24:15):
is it's like that prevention rather than the cure, you know,
or I mean it's both, you know, but it is.
And you saw when you got welcomed into the program,
everyone was like, Carly, we wish we had learned this
when we were at that age. It would have saved
us decades of suffering and struggling.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
And you know, I'm just really grateful to you.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
And also, you know, back to what you were saying
about it all starts with the beliefs.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
You know, I think a lot of women not I think.
I know a lot of women and I was one
of them.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Think that you have to go down this deep, dark
rabbit hole of your past to go heal something that's
been with you for a long time. And I think
that again, just like you, most of the people I
work with, like, we've done that road.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
We've psychoanalyzed our past to death.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
And all we've done is gotten really clear on what
didn't work and really clear on why we're sad and
angry or all the things grieving, but not given these
like present day tools to actually deal with it in
the right now. And so you know, without going into
too much detail about it, that happened with us.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
Like I think it was maybe like the second or
third week.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
You came to me, reach out to me on the
help desk and you were like, Leanne, I don't know
if this is relevant, but if this is coming up
for me right now and I really want to handle it.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
What do you think? And I message you back right away.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
I was like, Uh, this is so relevant, this is
this is like everything. And I even said to you
right then and there, I was like, Harley, do not
buy into the lie that you have to spend like
decades digging this up, going back in the past all
that there's a very right now way to address this.
And you were so coachable and like literally came back

(25:48):
to me a day later You're like, I did everything,
and here's what I did, and here's the shifts that
was happening.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
So, without going into too much detail about it, like
just kind of share what.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Your experience was of like cleaning up the past, so
to speak, but like very quickly, and the healing that
has happened because of that.

Speaker 5 (26:02):
So my mom passed away when pretty unexpectedly when I
was fourteen, and I had gone to therapy for a
while for that, which has helped me in its own ways,
but never in relation. And I don't even think I
had put together that that had anything to do with

(26:24):
my relationship with food. And so I just kept thinking
about my mom and I just kept a new layer
of grief of like, you know, the onion was kind
of like shedding and coming up. And what I realized
is that I had to forgive myself for my emotional

(26:47):
dependence and reliance on food that developed when my mother
passed away. I didn't even put two and two together
that that really was the root of all of the
struggles I've had for so long. And when I realized that,
I think I told you, like, I am just giving
my fourteen year old self the biggest hug and so

(27:10):
much forgiveness right now, Especially when you're fourteen, like and
you're a teenager, you always think you're older than you are.
You want to be older. I don't think until now
I am getting older that I realize how young I
was when that happened, and the compassion for myself of
I as a fourteen year old girl who lost the
most important person in my life. And I mean I

(27:32):
didn't miss a day of school. It was just business
as usual, you know. I didn't really take time or
face it. I didn't know what to do, and my
coping during that time started to lean towards food. And
now that I think about it, it's so clear to me.
I mean, to be honest, I would go home from

(27:53):
school and it was all I could do to get
through the day of school, and I just wanted the
world old to go away. So I would just eat
to the point where we all know the feeling when
you're full, but really all your body is going to
do is sleep, and so I started doing that just
so I could fall asleep and just have that reprieve,

(28:15):
like for a moment. And so now it makes so
much sense looking back, and there's no shame about it anymore,
which is just like the best feeling of like I
did what I could do as a fourteen year old
girl to get through and cope with the situation, and
it makes so much sense just the origin of all

(28:38):
of this, and so it was like, Okay, now I
can move forward, like I had to forgive myself for that,
and everyone's story is obviously different, but I think everyone
in their own way can find forgiveness for themselves and
just let go of the shame to then and it yeah,

(29:00):
like you said, it wasn't I had to psychoanalyze it.
It was like, oh, I realized it, like now I
have the tools to move forward. It doesn't have to
be this weight anymore and this thing and it just
it helped me find so much forgiveness for myself but
also for my family that I didn't even know that

(29:21):
I needed and how I had maybe put unrealistic expectations
on them of different roles when my mom passed away.
And so it's been really cool to also see those
relationships get better just through me forgiving myself. So that was, yeah,

(29:43):
the game changer for me.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Thank you so much for sharing that with all of
us and just letting us into your world and really
just to kind of mirror back what you shared from
my own perspective, like, yeah, we spent probably like ten
percent of our time and energy on the problem or
the origin story as you put it, and also just
like figuring out like, oh, that's why that happened and
understanding the why behind the what, and the rest of
the ninety percent was focused on like the tools that

(30:07):
you said that you now have access to that you.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Can wash, rins and repeat.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
We used them on this specifically, but like to actually
bring you into the right now and have right now
conversations with yourself instead of a lot of modalities and
therapy processes. And this isn't knocking therapy, but oftentimes we
do get caught up in the regression of going back
and really focusing on the past and the origin story,
and it's like that is really helpful to a point

(30:33):
until it's actually just really unhelpful and it locks us
back in our past. And that was kind of what
was happening, bringing our past into our future, especially when
it gets fired and wired within a comforting mechanism around
food and then our inner perfectionist that thinks that we
need to be a certain way or look a certain way.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
And then the control side of it comes in. So
it was just this kind of like mashing.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Of the of the goal, so to speak. But you
didn't even know it because it was unconscious. Your brain
was doing it without you and you didn't have the tools.
And then as soon as we just addressed it. I
remember there was a span of like a week where
we got on.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
The phone, we talked it through. I had you go
do some stuff and then you came back to me,
and it was like breakthrough, breakthrough, breakthrough, breakthrough. Oh, this happened,
This happened, this happened. And then the food stuff. I mean,
we had to put in.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
The work, but it was just or I say, you
had to put in the work, you know, but like
it was so simple after that simple not easy, you
know what I mean. You still had to really, you know,
go through the process of learning the tools and figuring
out how they integrated with you and putting together your recipe.
But all of that stuff that was underground, that was
just tugging at you, that was subconsciously being like, no, Carly,

(31:38):
don't heal this.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
We need you, we need this comfort.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Which is a lot of fears that a lot of
women have. It's like they're not necessarily ready to give
up their.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Comfort because it's all they've ever known.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
But when you know to actually give yourself what you
need and heal those places, your body isn't needing and
your brain, I should say, isn't needing all those comforting
mechanisms anymore.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
And that's exactly what happened for you, and it just
happened so fast.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Like you said, said, you know, a decade ago you've
been trying to process therapy and different modalities. It's not
like lack of a commitment, but you just needed these
tools right now.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
So thanks for sharing sharing that with us.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Why do you think that this program was a couple
of things, like what was different about this than other
things that you've done, and why was this more successful
than what you've done in the past.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
I think the main thing that's different and is also
why it was successful is it's a more holistic program
and view of your complete self. It's not just physical
and it's not just about food. And it starts with
a holistic inventory kind of of yourself and your mental, physical, emotional,

(32:57):
social like state and focuses on healing all of those
things first and repairing the relationship with yourself and your
self worth and the stories you tell yourself, the self talk,
all of those things. It starts there. It's not like, oh, yeah,
let me fit into this dress for this event coming up,

(33:21):
or let me have this body for the for Instagram,
and like, it starts deeper, and you have to go
deeper to really heal it and to really start there.
And then, like you said, that food stuff was simple. Yeah,
it still took work on my end, but it was

(33:43):
so simple it did not take a lot of mental energy.
It just shifted. And so it really was going deeper
and taking complete ownership and acceptance of where I was.
And I was also contributing to that and keeping myself there.

(34:03):
And you know, I wasn't going to move forward continually
telling myself like Carl, You're not good enough, Carla, your
body isn't worthy, like you're not worthy of it. You know,
all of the hanging on every mistake, psychoanalyzing everything I said,
replaying conversations in my head, like all of those things,
Like I was never going to be able to move
forward or heal it until I took a big look

(34:25):
in the mirror at those things and was able to
own it and shift it. And then once that was shifted,
and like I said, it was the holistic like view
of just me as a person, then the food and
the physical stuff just came.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
And I really want to reiterate that for anyone who's
listening and who needs to hear this, Like ladies, you
heard her say at the beginning, Like one of.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
The first questions I asked is where were you?

Speaker 3 (34:51):
And it was like food was the epicenter of her life,
her body was the epicenter of her life. Which she
should eat, shouldn't eat? What her body looks like, comparisonitis,
all of that. And then and once she did the
foundational work, which people tend to skip right, And don't
get me wrong, you need a better system of thinking
around food because the diet mentality is a poisonous, insidious,
it's a disordered way of thinking, you know. But once

(35:14):
you do that, the rest is simple, and it just
like it really just falls into place. And everybody that
joins this program is really like in kind of a
rush to get to the food stuff. And I'm like,
I promise you it is so worth doing this other
stuff because this is the reason that you're running for food.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
This is the reason that you're gripping to the.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Chains of control and restriction and dieting, and like, once
you get this sorted and healed, it's just like everything.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Falls into place. So I love that.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
It is kind of just this full circle of journey.

Speaker 5 (35:41):
Yeah, And it's cool because it opened up other ways
and mechanisms that I was numbing or coping that weren't
just food. I mean, food was a big one for me,
but it also opened up other ways that I was numbing.
Social media being one of those Netflix, Like, I just

(36:02):
became so aware of ways that I was coping that
I didn't know I was even using. And all those
things are great and have you know, can be used
as a tool or a weapon, And there I had
to become real clear on when I was using them
as a weapon against myself. And going through the first

(36:26):
few weeks and kind of doing the deeper stuff, the
food stuff and all the different ways of numbing had
already started to shift before we even started having conversations
about food.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
What was it that made you know that it was
worth it to really invest in healing this, like rather
than going down the diet approach or you know, listen
to more podcasts or investing in weight loss, Like, what
was it that you knew, Like, why was it worth
it for you to really invest this one time, to
just get this lifelong, you know, rather than go down
the short term bandied approach any longer?

Speaker 5 (37:03):
I just so connected with what you had to say
when we spoke, and I had never I mean kind
of like I said earlier, I think more women like
would be open to this conversation if they were exposed
to it. And I think the first time, like listening
to your webinar and then talking to you on the phone,

(37:24):
I connected so much with what you had to say
in your philosophy that I just knew it was worth
the leap of faith. And I just felt like God
put me in contact with you, and I just knew
it was what I was supposed to be doing and

(37:45):
knew we were connected for a reason. And I think
it just really clicked for me that when you said
it's not about the food, we have to go deeper.
I had never thought about it like that, and it
that is just what clicked for me. And I was like, Okay,
I and I from the first conversations we had, I've
been telling you I don't want to load this way,

(38:07):
you know, forever, I want to do what I can
to fix it. I don't, you know, want this to
carry into my future relationships and hopefully when I'm a
mom and all of those things. So I knew I
had wanted to fix it now and I'd been trying.
I just didn't know how until I heard you speaking
about it, and I was like, oh, like it was

(38:28):
just such a light bulb of like yeah, of course,
like it's not just about the food and the working
out and all of those things like it. There is
a deeper component to it. And it was a few
months ago that we were having those conversations, and so
it is so worth a few months of hard work

(38:51):
to be on the other side. And you know, the
work continues, but I am just in such a different
and better place and just showing up for myself in
ways I've always wanted but wasn't able to before.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Absolutely, And it's like one of those questions where it's like, yeah,
well she's just out of the program, Like it's easy now,
but like what you've learned, I mean, can you see
now why I say, Like it's a language that the
more you practice it, the easier it gets, the better
you get at it, and it just becomes who you
are more and more, so you don't have to practice
it as much as intensively, do you know what I mean? Like, yeah,
there anything that is that has like upheaved your life

(39:29):
or that you can't like it's one of those things
that like this isn't something you could practice forever.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Can you see how this is just like your forever
way of thinking and it will get easier.

Speaker 5 (39:39):
Yeah, it's crazy how simple, but like you make it
and then it really is. And it's just like the
small daily things and just ways of thinking and approach
the change everything. It's nothing crazy, like it's just as
who I am now. I know, I'm like shared this

(39:59):
with that I was feeling such a change in myself
and you know know what, many people knew. I was
doing this program because I really wanted it to be
something I did for myself. And I think it was
about halfway through the program I saw one of my
best friends that I hadn't seen since starting the program,
and she was like Carly, like, what is like something

(40:22):
is different. I don't know what it is, but like
your energy is like incredible. Something is different, and like
I'm so about it. And that was the first time
I think I'd ever really received the compliment about my
energy and just about just about my being and like
who I was, and I just felt so light and

(40:42):
like present and it just was such like an all
haul moment that like that is the ultimate compliment you
could ever receive. You know, like she could have told
me I looked a great in my genes that day
and I wouldn't even remember it today to be telling
you you know, so that really was like a cool moment.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
It's not a seeing, it's a being, it's a feeling.
It's who we are.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
And like, I mean, that's the best compliment ever when
somebody can say to you like, wow, you walk in
the room and I feel.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Like the temperature in the room goes up when you
walk in.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
You know, it's just this contagious energy.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
So what would you say.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
To any woman that is just on the fence about
really investing in this kind of conversation, because it is it's.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
Very seductive to want to just like go back especially.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
This time of year, you know, go back on keto,
go back to weight watchers for the ump team time. Like,
what would you say to anybody that is really on
the fence about having this conversation. They have their own
fears that maybe they're like the only one that this.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Wouldn't work for, destined to stay this way forever.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Whatever it is, Like, what would you say and maybe
their age, you know, anybody that's your age or younger
or older whatever, it is like, what would you say
to anybody that's on the fence about taking this plunge
because they might have a preconceived notion about what it
would take or how it would work for them.

Speaker 5 (41:58):
I was just say, like, one of the biggest beliefs
I shifted that I think a lot of people have
is this like either or mentality like you and I
think you've said it like you have to be like
healthy or happy or like you can't have you know,
I want to be healthy and happy, you know, And
I think that's what everyone wants, you know. And if

(42:22):
you all connect with any of what Leanne says or
what we've talked about, like, it is just so well
worth investing in it and just getting off the hamster wheel.
It's just going to be more and more of the
same until you really dig deep to make a big shift,

(42:47):
and the shift takes work, but it's really simple. And
so I just especially if anyone in their twenties, thirteens,
or at any age, like it's never too earlier and
it's never too late, you know. I think this is
a bigger conversation that you know, everyone can be invited

(43:09):
into you in their own time, but if you at
all feel like this is a conversation you're ready to have.
It's truly transformational. You know it could really change your
life and is well worth the investment in yourself.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Well, thank you so much for sharing your truths and
just you know, letting us behind the scenes of your
journey and all of your experiences, the good, the bad,
everything in between. Really grateful to hear your perspective, and
for anybody who's listening that you know have had some
of the same beliefs that you did. I know this
will definitely resonate with with so many people, so thank.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
You for being here, Thank you for sharing. Ladies.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
We're signing out for now, but thanks for tuning in
and we will see you again.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
Sue Bye.

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